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April 16, 2024 49 mins
The guys are back and at a crossroads with VTB and his echo and who is to blame and how does it get fixed? The great Orel Hershisher on Jackie Robinson Day and the Dodgers losing 2 of 3 to the Padres. How Was Your Weekend?
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Anthony Munyos, Dame Lillard, MexicanAmerican Dame Lillard, exactly right. That's
the fight. Hey, Mexican Americans, Petros and money buenos ds. I
mean he goes so enjoyabello and thankyou for being part of the show today.

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I had a Mikela that was tasty. What is the U? I'm
a woy. What's the skinny onVIC? Guys? There is no VIC
today. Med stuff? Y'all medstuff. Okay, So not Tim Kate's
suspension. He was just talking aboutCoachella with Rogan and Rodney. He text
me yesterday and said he could notbe wrong with you guys because he had

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med stuff. Okay, he wasjust like five minutes. We were busy
trying to book the first segment yesterday. So no, he would never lose
the sixty minutes. Rogan and Rodneygive him right, but he is willing
to lose the I've got to fightmy way off hold after these two guys
talk for fifteen to twenty minutes.Yeah, we're like when the guy does

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a concert, you know, Vic'sconcert at like the Motorola Center or whatever,
you know, sure, Pepsi Center, Ball Center or whatever, Honda
Center, the Pond, the concertis Rogan and Rodney for VIC and and
then like the speakeasy after party wherehe DJs. That's us right, It's

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he's very not know what time he'sgoing on, depends what time the show
ends, depends what time there's enoughpeople in the place to get him going.
I will say this, the lasttime we had any kind of and
I am reaching a real breaking pointwith the headphone with the echo. Yeah,
well you have the text though,so when people reach out to you

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and they're all pissed off because ofthe echo, it sounds weird and it
sucks the life out, it sucksthe marrow out of my bone. Well,
then maybe you have found yourself inthe same spot as Tim Kats and
Ronnie. Well what happened with theytell they just tell Vick, hey you're
out. Somebody called, but you'reout. Over the weekend, somebody texted
me and said, I have agreat podcast set up with great headphones.
Can I send them to VIC?And it's just it's just pathetic. Yes,

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it's pathetic, but it's and peoplecontact me like, it's not the
headphones, it's the board, orit's not the headphones, it's the mind,
the unit, it's not the unit. It's the snow. It's shut
up. What is? What is? Engineer Matt told you, Tim Kates,
we know what it is? Whatis? He said, it's it's
the system that he's using. Itwas rigged up during COVID because they didn't

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have enough of the actual systems thatyou guys use comric systems, so they
made them and used iPads and differentthings to kind of rig it up.
Like that's what I have, andI have one that runs through a Microsoft
surface. Yeah, that's that's whatyou have. A Jerry rigged situation.
Last time I checked. I don'thave the echo No, because your headphones
are tight on your head. It'sabout head tightness. If I could go

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over to Vic's house with an ACEbandage, I would bandage the headphones to
his face to where he looked likea mummy, unable to see. But
the headphones would be so tight ontohis head and there'd be sound slightly for
his mouth, and some beard wouldbe coming out of the creases. But
that would be it. Like Iwant to I want to seal right the

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headphones to Vix's head. I wantto glue around, not the headphones.
It doesn't have that like off Mikeheadphones. It is it's us echoing back.
It's a looping back. That's what'shappening. It is the headphones.
You. It is the headphones becauseVic can't hear. And I've had this
problem with Vic, and I've I'vesomewhat solved it a little bit with Vic

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at least the echo has gone awaysubstantially in the past. But Vic keeps
turning his headphones back up because hecan't hear. And when Vic, when
he has his headphones cranked up,and when Matt and Petrels are talking,
the sound is bleeding into vic microphoneand feeding back right here right. What

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about my solution of an ace bandageon Vic's head where he looks like the
Mummy. I like it, Matt, Matt likes it, Kate's I'm down
for it, Ronnie anything. Atthis point, a Spanish may take a
long time every day to prep youknow, well, who's going to go
down to Vic's house? Michael Jacksonin the Thriller video he sat for hours

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to get that makeup and the Johnlandis thriller. What if we just got
one of those cool leather weave beltsand you just crank that thing as tight
as it'll go that way. It'sjust one buckle, right, and now
I'm tight as opposed to having towrap an ace bandage. I feel like
the ace bandage would really insulate hiswhole face though, could really hold that

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sound in because Fred is deaf aswell. And Fred uses the in ear
apple like iPod headphones. And Iknow because whenever I plug my headphones in,
my ears start bleeding. Because he'sgot this thing jacked so high.
Yeah, him and Hartman. Yeah, I gotta say, Matty, I
say, on Friday, we weretalking about this and you did what you

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always do. All you were thinkingabout was your tasty waves and your great
drinking weekend with all your cool friendsat Seal Beach, and you were like,
oh, we'll deal with it onMonday. Well here's Monday. He
ain't here with it. But we'venot dealt with anything. We're gonna We're
gonna get on. He's got itunder control. It's gonna be two Edd
Moto Tuesday, and it's gonna belike hey, Vin Vick Vick Mack.

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I heads it under control and thenhe turns it up. That's what Ronnie
said. Well that's the truth.So here's what we'll do tomorrow. You've
got a solution. Mass Tomorrow,we are gonna do an on air test.
We're gonna have them hold, hey, Vic, turn your headphones up
to a point where you're comfortable.Here's the echo. Vic, turn your
headphones down fifty percent, and let'ssee what happens. And if it disappears,

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well, we're gonna go ahead andwe're gonna buy him a set of
Sony MD eighties. That's a hellof seal Helen. It's not gonna work
because, yeah, because that theheadphone will will not plug into Vic's Jerry
rig machine. We need to buyhim headphones. He needs headphones. Does

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he needs he needs a USB plug. His headphones are plugged in via US.
Yes, he needs a USB plug. Here's the problem. We don't
put the thing on and put thething on. That's our problem. We
don't know. We don't know howto marry the male and the female.
I have no female wants a rectangularpuzza. I know, I don't.
I'm trying to give it a syndrilicalpuzza. It just drives me crazy.

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And then every time we really getto where the rubber meets the road to
fix vix technical problems. Don Martinswoops in like the sheriff from Porky's and
says no, no, no,no, I'll pay for this right,
and they don't do anything. Allright. I found it fine. You
guys don't want to crap over myidea. I didn't. I had to
do it. I thought I wastalking to those two, these two that

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came back at me and said no, it's not gonna work. I thought
it was a great idea. Lookwhat I just found. But I had
a Google. You guys, Ihave a question about your idea, though,
When go ahead, I type inyou googled USB headphones and bang,
look what I can get. Vic. Oh, I don't think those are
gonna sound. You don't think so. The one where they just ear or

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they like the cheap styrofoam headphones weneed. The problem is gonna get work?
The razor crack and Kitty V twowired with the caddiers on the top
of a hundred dollars, have amic on his headphones or does he talk?
I have no clue, Petros,that's the problem. I don't know.
That was it that we've never askedin these things? Because Vic doesn't

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let anybody in the house this howdoes hours of radio on our air every
single day, and we don't wedon't question the method in which he doesn't.
This is the this in its elderabuse. We will abuse him and
his elderly ways by getting details overwhat his setup is that is causing the
echo to really upset us. Now, you guys are losing your bite.

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You give Rogan and Rodney grief forfilling time with Vic, and then you
can plain when Vic comes on,he shut up, and you complain when
he doesn't come on, and youget more airtime filler when he doesn't even
come on. Hey, you shutyour face and you shut your stupid face.
Use your face to shut up.Shut up, shut your stupid shut
it. Coke face, crack face. Are you talking right now? No,
I'm talking about this guy in thefour two five, four to five

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pick up the pace with you're crackedout face for the California This is a
serious problem that I said we neededto solve, and Matt said, we're
gonna kick it to Monday. Well, guess what today is procrastinating ass it's
Monday. Nobody wants to believe it, but it's not the headphones. I'm
telling you it's something on his board. It's something in the return. It's
not that sound like you have yourheadphones half on. Then what the hell

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is and how do we hear ourselvescoming back? It's it's the feed.
It's something to loop back a mixedminus feet. I think it behind the
curtain too much on radio, butwe like we haven't done that in the
last eleven minutes. All right,it's a mixed mine. All I'm saying
is this, Will he open thedoor for the engineer? No? Can
we put him? Well that wasin unison. Can can we shame him

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enough on the air to get himto do so? No? Okay,
Okay, then he's suspended again.Now wait, then he's suspended. Wait,
let's let's see. Can we geta proxy? Can we reach out
to Dave Cardona? He'll FaceTime engineerMatt while he's standing next to Vic and
can be instructed how to fix thesystem. I don't think Matt wants anything
to do with Vic in a setupat this point. Well, that's unfortunate.

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Last time I checked Matt as ourhead engineer. So it's okay,
great, did he tell you howlong it took to get to Victor let
him inside the house a long time. That's why I said, he send
the proxy. So once again wehave no solution to an endless problem that
puts me in a terrible mood everysingle day. And he wasn't even here.
Wait a second, didn't Stony andVic's wife drop off a bunch of
goods here? Yes? Why couldn'twe then get it back and give them

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the equipment to take back home?And Stony works with a freaking CIA.
Can't he figure out how to hookit up? Uh? See, I
thought I was. I misunderstood whatyou wanted there. I thought you were
gonna say, why can't we jumpin their trunk when they drop the goods
off? And then they park inthe garage and in the middle of the
night, we pop the trunk,We sneak into the house, we fix
the system, get back in thetrunk. You say, hey, Stoney,

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can I get some more of thatsweet rice candy stuff? And then
he draws back up and then Ipop out of the trunk when they pull
back in. You see what Imean? Yeah, I am not fasy.
I am not faking losing my temper. This is the biggest problem all
my radio show is added for years, amongst other things, everything else.

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We're able to overcome, are we, Yes? Yes, this has been
a bit of a thorn. It'sa bug, a booze, It's a
bug. It's a thorn in ourside, it's a rock in our shoe.
If only the head of the clusterliked and listened to the show every
day. Paul Cormino willing to help. Let's get the opponent. Let's get

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the opponent to Whittier. Let's sanctiona boxing match down in Whittier. And
when he goes down to cash hischeck, is the opponent, he can
pay a stop to vic and fixthe comrades or whatever. The knockoff?
Uh the Jerry Riggs. Now,look, you guys know me. You
know if I'm faking my orgasm,this says you're faking. Stop faking.

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Move on. Shut your face,shut up, Hey, you shut up?
Two eight one, you shut yourstupid stubbly face, shut up meadle
mouth, punk ass, you shutup. This is a terrible thing that's
been afflicting us for years. Ifeel like we worked I think we worked
it up. No we didn't.Yeah, we figured it out. No,

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he did not, and tomorrow it'sgonna be the same damn thing.
It's all set. You're just doingthis to avoid Padre talk. Oh fourteen
walks, jerks and Profar pulling hisjunk out and shaking it is vas well
Smith's face? Is Vassa even gonnacome on? After he provoked bulletin board

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material out of Will Smith only tobe used against the Dodgers and Jerkson Profar
three shot? Is Vassa even gonnacome on? Or is he hiding at
Vic's house? Come on? Fourto forty five? So you're telling me
that vail Herscheizer's coming on next?Oh yeah, Jackie Robinson day, and
we got to talk about oral Hrscheizerand all the great things he's done over

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the years for our show. Andhow does the staff walk fourteen guys in
the same game. That's something I'venever seen it. But I've never seen
a guy on a professional radio stationbe able and allowed, be allowed to
perform for years while sabotaging the broadcast. I agree, And so what I'm
I'm to understand Kate's that or Ronnie, I guess, is the one that

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allege this that engineering here at amfive point seventy and beyond the iHeartRadio engineering.
Some of the greatest engineers on thehistory of the world have clapped their
hands and thrown up their surrender hereand just said, we got a problem,
forget it, not our problem.He won't let us in. I
think that they feel that they've doneall that they could do to help Vic.

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Again. It just seems like whenKate's does a show from the house,
when Petros does a show from thehouse, when I do a show
from the house, no echo,because you guys can hear VIC is death.
Vic is death. Ronnie is stickingto his story. I am going
to stick to my story. I'mgoing to stick to this ovide. Enough
enough has happened with Vic in thepast, where I know that this is

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the problem because I've helped Vic fixit in the past, But he can't
hear, so he keeps turning thevolume back up, and we keep getting
the same result from Vic turning hisvolume. See. I get text like
this from idiots that think they gotit all figured out, and it makes
me more angry, Like why arethe headphones USB? Why not have USB

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interfaced and intercepts? Fourth balltos headphonetake you shut up, shut up,
use your face to shut up.Shut If if you were here, I
would grab your lips and hold themclosed with my fingers, and then I
would hand him a pad of paperand a pen and say that's a good
idea. Go ahead, sketch itoff. Shut up, sketch it up
for me. How's this USB thingworked out? Because I want to get
him some SONYUMD eighties, the studioheadphone of record in the world of sports

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talk radio. You can try it, Matt. You can always return them
if they don't work. That Ican do. Honestly, I have reached
an impass in life with this.I'm not kidding. We said we would
work it out on Monday. It'sMonday. Have we worked it out?

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You mean much? Maybe we needto track Vig down at his doctor's appointment.
Get him on the comrades right away, test it out, eliminate the
problem. Bing bang boom, yougut us on dot com, quartermail,
trs audio us be to to headphonejacket to try, Matt. Pretty easy.
Can I just say, We've gotto be the biggest idiots on planet
Earth. All it is him havingthis volume up too high on his headphone.

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We're gonna take it's more than that, you guys. Idea is Matt's
idea. Matt's idea we're going todo tomorrow. We're gonna do a live
test, live test. It'll befind out if it's the headphone. It's
gonna be like a radio, uhbreathalyzer, because he doesn't need to talk,
so it's just us talking as heturns down the headphone where he would
normally sit, and we'll find outimmediately whether or not it is the headphon.

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That's a great idea, Matt,exactly. I want to bet right
now, I'll buy lunch if it'sthe headphone. Hey, you're betting with
Ronnie. Yeah, yeah, let'sbet. All right, I'll buy you
lunch. If it's the headphone.It is not the headphone, I'll buy
you some more Ammo. If you'reright, whoa, I think you get
a premium on that case. Odd'sin your favor, let's do it.
I would assume Ammo is more expensivethan a sandwich. All right. If

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you don't like us talking about this, you shut up. Shut up.
If you think you got it figuredout, you shut up. Shut up.
When I'm talking to you, I'mjust perusing the USB to quarter inch
headphone jacks that are available to me. We will have oral Herschey's are on.
In the very next segment, wewill talk about the Dodgers embarrassment against

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the Padres over the weekend. Andit was embarrassing to walk fourteen guys like
that, inexcusable and to let Profarbe your daddy. I thought we were
professionals. Very depressing and look atthat staring us right in the face.
Yeah, I'm gonna plug that in. I'm gonna plug that into Their problem
solved. If the problem is whatRonnie has diagnosed the problem to be headphones

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that are too loud. If itwas his headphone so loud, why haven't
we just told him turn your headphonesdown? Ronnie said he has, and
Vic disobeys his command every single everyday. That's what he says every single
He's banned from forever. That's whatI'm saying. Well, we're gonna find
out tomorrow if he's disobedient. Wewill find out tomorrow he is. I'm
so pissed off. In subordinate andsurelish this. This is one of the

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greatest teases we have ever had onthe show. In the show's eighteen year
history. Tune in tomorrow as wework through Vic's headphone with me. What
I don't like is how you guysjust totally dismissed and threw by the wayside
my idea of Ace bandaging Vic's entireface with the headphones on, creating a
mummified cocoon of sound, and everybodyshut your mouth what I'm talking to you.

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We work these things out on theair because it's where our brains operate
at max efficiency. We don't talkoff the air, We don't hey link.
All we do is look at allthe KFI stable of interns and mock
them. Who's that person, Ohnew guy? Mercilessly, who's that Oh
new lady. I just saw anew guy today, new guy. I
mean, how many people does ittake to print a story off of CNN

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and hand it to somebody. You'vegot a large budget high end gift card.
Cars Man high end gift card hada mini stroke. We're gonna expand
its Matt's face during the brand We'llbe right back with more great sports stuff.
Got a lot happening the next coupleof weekends. This weekend, the
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of all time, the Bulldog.His number is in the rafters with people
or at least honored period World SeriesChamp MVP does a wonderful job on Spectrum
Sportsnet with Joe Davis or Nelly orwhoever. It's Jackie Robinson Day and Oral

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just purchased a beautiful masterpiece, acollection of art, but a masterpiece of
Roy Capanella, don nucom and MartinLuther King Junior and Jackie Robinson and it's
a Jackie Robinson Day. Oral,of course, a patron of the arts
and a man for all seasons,joining us once again on Jackie Robinson Day.
What's cracking or how are you?Hello? Petros? Hello? What

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a fabulous day. I won't beat our Dodger Stadium and been nursing a
little strip throat. Had a fewdays off, but I'll be back there
on Friday. Well, that's good. We're sorry to hear that you're not
feeling well, but thank you forjoining us and giving us some of the
perspective on Jackie Robinson Day. Youknow we used to have when he was
with us. God blessed, itwas such an honor to have don nukem

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on and tell stories about Martin LutherKing and Jackie Robinson and sitting at that
very table that you bought the paintingof. I'll give us some perspective on
it oral and where you came acrossthe art and what inspired you to buy.
Well. The first relationship that startedwith Dave Hobrick, who is the
artist who does black and white charcoalpastel paintings, and he approached me after

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I saw some of his art andwas just flabbergasted by how good it was.
He approached me to do an artpiece on the fifty nine scoreless and
we took a little artistic license andtold a whole story with that piece.
And then our relationship built to thepoint where I wanted to be involved in
his life or see what else wasgoing on in his life. And he
has one of Vinnie and Scully andour Gibbee and a bunch of other guys

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that and he has a nice galleryand I I've just fell in love with
his work. And then I cometo find out that he has to do
a lot of commission work, andI'm like, so, what would you
rather do? And he goes,I'd rather paint from my heart. In
painting from his heart, he tellsstories and I'm like, well, show
me some of the other paintings.And this when he told me about Grace

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being shipped off to the Negro Museumin Kansas City. I started to communicate
with them and we found a wayto let Dave do works from his heart,
and so we got rid of alot of his commission work and now
he paints just on stories and things. He was an ex athlete that had
injuries that didn't allow him so hewent into art. And then seeing Grace

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as a masterpiece, really his monaLisa, He's like a leroy neiman Is.
It's really amazing his work. Andso I wanted my partners and I
who you guys have talked about before, I'm in partners with car dealership and
all the things. But we said, let's find a way to let Dave
work on what he wants. Andwe purchased ten pieces of his art,

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but we had to have his MonaLisa, which was Grace. And then
I called the Negro Hall the museumand talked to Bob Kendrick, the president,
and between his passion and his knowledgeand where Grace lives right now,
I said, do not worry.Can we agree that Grace is not moving?
And he said, oh, oh, that'd be great. And I
said, you know, being aDodger, having Jackie be a Dodger,

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having Martin Luther King day, JackieRobinson Day come up, and with Martin
Luther and Nuke can't be in there. I just connected to the painting through
my history, the Dodger history andJackie and everything he did. And I
said, we've got to have that, but we're not moving it. And
so that's how it all came about. It's just a big love affair and

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it's a message and a history thathas to continue, so it needs to
stay there at the museum, howyou know, Like like Petro said,
it was great for us to haveDon Nukeman to you know, kind of
tell us how it all sort ofworked itself out, what they went through
when they first arrived in Major LeagueBaseball. How do you think the young
players learn about it now? Dothey come to you? Do they ask

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you? Do they ask you know, the generations prior and kind of what
walk us through? Jackie Robinson?How do you think they all find out
about Jackie? Well, I thinkJackie Robinson Day, first of all,
starts the communication. I think DaveRoberts and the Dodgers do an amazing job
educating Dodger players on the history andJackie because they go out to his statue

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and now it's part of the youknow, front door of Dodger Stadium.
The stan casting and this organization andownership has kind of opened up to people
next to Sandy's statue out there,and they actually go out there and they
do a history lesson around the statueand talk and it gets videotaped for like
you know, backstage Dodgers and thenews and different things, and and so

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I'm just glad it creates awareness.I'm glad it creates a conversation because I
think, you know, we canlegislate all we want about equality, but
we have to change people's hearts.And people's hearts are changed by knowledge and
by conversation. I learned so muchfrom Don, so much from other black

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American players that I played with,whether it was Eddie Murray or Enis Cabell
or you know against you know otherplayers, Kenny Lofton, I was on
the team with the Indians, AlbertBell. Different people, you have to
find out what they're living and there. It's not always an open topic to
talk about in a locker room orin a food room or on a bus.
So you have to kind of openthe topic and see what it's like.

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And that's how you learn. That'show you become sensitive. That's how
you become a really good teammate.The great Oral Hrscheiser is our guest,
and we're always happy to have himon a little beat up but fighting through
it. On Jackie Robinson day,playing hurt for the Petrosen money, showing
great Sports Talk, He'll be backon Great Sports Talk. Fourteen walks or

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what's fourteen walks? That's amazing fora major League baseball game? Is it
not? What happened out there?Oh my gosh, we have lost the
strikes on sometimes. We've seen thatwith our worst outings as far as from
our starting staff and from our bullpen. But the good thing is the large
percentage just almost like an eighty twentyrule. You know, eighty percent of

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your production comes from twenty percent ofyour people. Well, eighty percent of
our production is really really good onthe pitching staff, it's just the other
twenty percent has just not been veryeye catching. The same way with the
offense, eighty percent of our offenseis probably coming from a little more than
twenty percent of our people at thetop of the order. But overall we're
in a really good place as faras the record, a really good place

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with what we expected. We're notin a really good place in every department
every day, but we're not goingto be perfect. This is baseball,
and you know people are going towin or lose, you know, sixty
games no matter what, no matterhow good or bad you are. And
after that, it's what you dowith the rest. And you know,
Tommy used to preach this all thetime about good days and bad days,

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and we're just in charge of havingmore good days than bad days, more
good outings. Than bad outings andmore baseball probability is going our way fourteen
walks. Baseball probabilities are not goingto go your way. You can just
slam the door on that one.Usually, well, what do you you
know? There's a lot of conversationBobby Miller be in the latest and it
sounds like maybe he averted, youknow, a serious injury as they give

(28:42):
this thing a little bit of rest. But now the conversation is shifted to
is this inevitable? Guys that youknow, kids, young men that throw
the ball one hundred miles an hourfor seven innings eventually are going to break
down. Is do you see away around it? Is it just something
that you sept and you know they'regoing to have to have surgery and be

(29:02):
out for a year. Well,you're only as strong as your weakest link,
and you cannot strengthen connective tissue,and so you cannot make muscles all
fatigue at the same time either.So when you can't strengthen your connective tissue,
you're only strong as your weakest link, and you can't have perfect synchrony

(29:23):
as far as the muscles all fatiguingat the same time. You're going to
lose synchrony, You're going to loserhythm, You're going to lose the way
the lever system works, and allof a sudden, there's going to be
new stresses on the body at differenttimes throughout because of fatigue, because of
a bad mechanic, because of along inning, because of a pitch clock,
because of I'm trying to achieve certaindata as far as spin rate and

(29:47):
velocity. I can see it thedepth of my slider. The numbers come
up on the board in Minnesota,the spin rate comes up, so that
the hitters on the twins can say, oh, that's what a slider's doing.
Now take an adjustment and on ascoreboard, seeing data on the pitch
and the velocity and knowing, oh, that's why I was under that pitch.

(30:07):
That's why I was that pitch wasoutside. So there are so much
going on to be the ultimate beston every single pitch, every single rep.
How you get scouted, that's howyou get drafted. That's how you
get up in the draft. That'show you get paid. That's how you
get a contract. That's how yougo from prospect a big leader. That's
how you go from big leader.This is how you get people out,

(30:29):
that's how you follow a scouting report, that's how you then get a long
term contract. It is we're gettingto maybe a tipping point where the human
body just can't do this for theamount of time. It's being asked,
maybe new theories that I want tohave a long career. I want to
learn how to maybe pitch with lessvelocity, less movement, but can still

(30:52):
get people out. Maybe there's asearch for a new equation. But we
definitely have notund how to keep pictureshealthy, especially the best ones. Because
the best ones are going to havethe highest spin rate, the highest velocity,
the best change of direction, thebest change of speed. They're going
to do it for the longest time. That's going to be the longest amount
of stress. It's it's it's we'vemaybe reached a tipping point where people go,

(31:18):
hey, let's you know, let'sstop this. And but how do
you legislate it? How do youmake rules? How do you have organizations
start to bend that way? Idon't know. It's going to be an
interesting road that we're going to haveto travel. It probably started in my
generation when all of a sudden,one hundred pitches and counting pitches became the

(31:40):
first data, and then it washow long does it take to come back
from surgeries? And it was twoyears, Then it was seventeen months.
Then it was, oh, somebodydid in eleven months. Oh we can
do that. And we're always chasingthe best, the ultimate, the quickest
time, the best, the highestvelocity, and it's going to get to
a point where body can't take itis. And I know, look,

(32:01):
Greg Maddox is one of the greatestpictures in the history of baseball, But
should or could kids chase that instead? Would that still be a viable approach
to pitching in twenty twenty four,in the next ten years, trying to
be as control centric and pinpoint accurateas Greg Maddox was, instead of trying
to throw the ball one hundred andfive miles an hour instead of ninety one

(32:22):
miles. Yeah. Well, andGreg Maddox's history was he was a fireballer
his first couple of years and reallydid not do very well and started to
watch other pitchers that were changing speedsand not at full max effort, and
really we're moving the priority list ofpitching to movement and change of speeds to
the top instead of velocity, andthat's when he became Greg Maddox. Same

(32:45):
thing with Tom Glavin, same thingwith John Smoltz. Those three really went
through that learning curve and became oneof the best threesome in pitching. Ever.
I think, yes, I thinksome people will do this. I
think, you know, there's alwaysbeen a blame for pitching injuries. It
could be the pitch count was first, and then it was always the curveball

(33:07):
and the slider, and then thesplit finger out of San Francisco was hurting
people's elbows in Now it's possibly thepitch clock or that's the data. There's
always going to be a reason,but when the numbers go up, that
reason gets more to the headlines.So I hope we can learn more about
quote unquote pitching. And I'm notit's not to say that a Justin Verlander

(33:30):
or a Max Scherzer or Clayton Kershawor the guys that are really going pretty
much Max's effort that stay healthy andhave Hall of Fame careers. That doesn't
mean that you can't do that andstay healthy, but it does mean it
might be a riskier way to goabout your career. The great oral Herschauser.

(33:51):
We love him because during a broadcasthe doesn't become preoccupied with shoes for
three and a half hours. Ohmy goodness, was that amazing? To
David Cohen during the broadcast and Isaid, can we have one more segment
where you guys have a blue shotof a shoe? Yeah? Connie,
what are we doing out there?He was just laughing, he goes,
You know, but ESPN they likethe feature stuff, and it seemed like

(34:15):
between the microphone on the player andthe feature of the shoes and all that,
they had couple other topics they werehitting. For sure, it was
like, can we do the game? They didn't want to do it,
And then they didn't really want totalk about the podres when they started to
win. I know, they werestill just talking about how great the Dodgers
are. You know, there's alot of expectation on the Dodgers. How
do you think it's going to playout like that? I mean, you

(34:36):
were a national you were the ESPNguy for for years and years, and
you were awesome. You did theBaseball College World Series, you did all
kinds of stuff. You know.Yeah, the National broadcast s Petro Is,
as you know, is completely differentthan your regional local or your own
team. And your own team,you're actually you're coming into people's living room,

(34:58):
you know, five to seven daythe week. Then the team goes
on the road and you're doing itagain and you're just part of the family
and you're part of the organization.And the national broadcast they're trying to want
up the local knowledge and they're tryingto be you know, more headline orient
and story storyline. It's always blackand white, and it was hard.
It's completely different. I love doingthe Dodger Games because it's more like a

(35:22):
family and you're just you're talking topeople that understand your vernacular and your stories,
and they're inside humor and it's andyou have a team and you have
great information on them and you canreveal stuff about them personally. The Nationals
is different. It's different, andI think that's why you know, Jim
Nance and Al Michaels and Vince Gullyand all the ones that do the National

(35:44):
side and you still love it asmuch as you do your local or your
regional. I think there's just sucha such a I don't know, it's
just an amazing talent for those guys. To come into your living room,
come into your you know, familyroom, come out to your barbecue,
and feel like you're still talking toyour father, your uncle, your grandfather.

(36:04):
And they only do it, youknow, once a week, once
every two weeks. It's great.We'd love that. We get it most
of the time, save the strepthroat nightly with Orlherseizer and Joe Davis.
You guys do buddy, you guystoo well. We appreciate it. LAORL.
Thanks for the obvious, all thebaseball analysis, but more importantly the
history lesson and certainly if you evermake your way to Kansas City, hit

(36:25):
up the museum and be sure youcheck out you guys. I know you
guys have to go to commercial orsomething, but I just want you to
know with the walks. Jackie walkedand scored a run in his first game
and the Daughters won five to three. He walked into that situation, he
scored with what he did for ournation and for the world, and he

(36:47):
won because we're still talking about itand we're still getting better as human beings.
So it's it's quite a day andit's quite a message, and that's
going to make my voice cracked.We appreciate it. Oral, thank you
God, bless you rls Houbreckt sportsArt. Oh h O b r e
c h t uh for this beautifulpainting that Oral and is they brought a

(37:12):
whole bunch of paintings, but theones that's still up at the Yeah,
Grace, it's the name of thepainting from Hobrecht with that's the that has
uh mlk Jackie don Newcombe. Beautifulpainting and you can see it, uh
well, look it up, checkit out Hubrecht sports Art. Thank you
orrel It's like a baseball mona,Lisa. It's amazing you guys, you

(37:36):
guys, take care of you too, you too, love you or thank
you. There he goes back toVic and the injustice of his echo.
We've got how it's your weekend.Next, we've got to do a word
number song. We've got David Basse, I don't feel well. Let's not
listen obviously compelling hard atop of compellingnineteen minute segment like we just had with

(38:00):
Oral. But we got to teachthis thing to tomorrow. We've got to
cash it in tomorrow. We gotto string them along like we don't want
to solve this thing right away.We got to go through all the trial
and error and the mini avenues.So this guy says, you guys brought
Don Martin on once and let himhear the echo, and he said he

(38:20):
would get Vica new comrades. Whateverhappened to that, it's a great question.
We'll have to work through that anotherday. Tomorrow's test is going to
be it's gonna be something. It'salmost like the nuclear test. People are
going to stop what they're doing,mushroom cloud like three oh five pm,
and it is going to be Marconilevel AM radio. There's gonna be a

(38:43):
movie about it, that's right,like Oppenheimer. Yes, they gave us
the worst jobs. Tonny, Tony, how should we get next? Maybe
maybe it is the head far Tomorrow'sthe day man Rubber meets the Road.
Ronnie Kate In time, Ronnie andKate's are really digging into Ronnie says,

(39:07):
headphones. Kate says, no way. It's not like the night before an
election where it's like, well,good luck to you. I mean it
could go either way. It's like, no, they are both digging in
World War One trenches. Ronnie sayshe's got evidence that it's the headphones,
because he's told Vic in the pastto turn it down and the echo goes
away. They give us the worstcase. Says, no way, Tommy.

(39:28):
I know that echo, and thatecho is a loop. It's a
mixed minus loop. I know itto be true. I want to find
out tomorrow engineering ultimatums like we've neverhad before. And for those of you
that aren't into the saga Vic's echo, you must not have enjoyed the Godfather
trilogy either. Trilogy, Dad,like a shot of the stats, Dad,

(39:58):
totally. It's a a lot ofMonday, and it's time for how
was your weekend? I'm gonna dowhat I do weekend is mind how was
your weekend? That's the problem.I think he and Ronnie were at odds.
It's how was your weekend? He'sup right after I'm finished and exciting
weekend and he's not even in there. So now I got a stretch because
he and Ronnie can't get along andhe had to leave. Dude, just

(40:21):
tell me about your weekend, allright, I'll tell you. Saturday and
Sunday, I serve both mornings.Saturday post surf. I went to Tommy's
because he had a bunch of peopleover to watch the Masters. Not the
slap box capital of the world Tommy'sYacht Club in San Pedro, which has
since closed. No Tommy Netches.Hey want a slap box? Why would

(40:43):
I want to do that? Itis funny though, That's what we do
here. One of the guys thathangs out is called slapbox Wally. He
wants the slapbox all the time.A lot of slap box So had to
get to work on the house.You want a slap box out back had
a chain reaction at the home.Smaller TV went out, so instead of
replacing the smaller TV, moved thebigger TV from downstairs and then replace the

(41:05):
bigger TV with an even bigger TV. My phone broke, so I'm gonna
give my phone. I'm gonna givethe bad phone. Yeah, exactly one
of those. Just because TVs havecome down so substantially in price, It's
like, well, why wouldn't Iget the giant Oh broke Spenner money.
But then I realized, now I'veput this big TV in my bedroom and
I tend to fall asleep early,the wife stays up late, and the

(41:27):
TV didn't bother me before now nowI've got this massive television in our bedroom.
I'm like, Babe, you can'twatch TV like that. You're sitting
in the front row at the movie. It's not good. Then we went
to dinner, Wife and I wentto Finbars their listeners love them. Over
there in Seal Beach Sunday, watchsome some Masters. Some lakers at the
house help Peyton on FaceTime do hertaxes as she was doing her taxes from

(41:52):
New York City. Then went overto the Routers mat the Routers, so
he had some folks over to watchthe final round of the Masters comes up
on the planes of West exactly right. We did talk a little Texas tech,
uh, and then went down toMarnie's for the Lucky Jack Show for
a minute, out to dinner withthe wife again to l Ranchito. That
was my weekend. Wow, areal Mexican. It really was, cats.

(42:13):
Yep, I had a great weekend. Started with your Friday Nights.
I'm back here. Is there alot of tension in there between you and
Ronnie? We haven't spoken since thefirst segment of the show. Right,
really the headphones? Right? Okay, right, okay, shut up?
Uh. Friday Night went to dinnerwith my youngest Sadie and my mom and
dad to Don Cucko's and yeah,new spot here in Bourbank we just discovered,

(42:37):
so we might go back to thatplace. We were tired of it
and you weren't going to go fora while. It was about a week.
Yeah, great to see Hector andall the boys there at Don Kucko.
Shout out to them. Saturday,didn't do much, just went online.
Uh Layla had a playoff tournament forgc US women club team. It
was at GCU. They hosted.Had a winning goal, They had a

(42:59):
winning goal. It was really cool. They beat San Diego State for the
first time ever the chance of thew w l L. They were down
three hill. Yeah, in thefourth quarter. They came back and tied
it and she got a loose ballbreakaway, went down faith left, went
right and scored and yeah, theysaid they got the game winner with ten
seconds. They went to the semifinals, where they proceeded then to lose.

(43:19):
That's all right to Arizona State,who went on to play in the
championship game against UCLA. The Bruinswon. They're really good this year in
GCU though, beat cal on Sunday. So they finished third place in the
conference and they have an outside chanceof getting it at large bid into the
national finals in Wichita, Kansas nextmonth. They would fly. Yeah,

(43:40):
it's a it's an out outside outsidechance, Like I don't I don't know
if they're actually going to get in. Will you go? If they get
in? I cannot because I haveto be here with you guys. Huh,
you're not going to Wichita or sevenNation Army couldn't hold you back if
they got, you know, Dodgerson deck, and there's a bunch of
Dodger games that'd sinkle to my Oweekend. You take your comerce with you,
dude, I wish I would takemix that up at works. That's

(44:01):
exactly right. They shut for theheadphones. Those don't work. Apparently it's
the headphones problem. Sunday, Ijust hung out and did some Dodger pregame
and uh yeah, just yeah,shut up. It's really nothing. It
rained here in Burbank, Ronnie Saturdaythis weekend. Saturday, I was up
early to run some errands around townbefore the rain came. And luckily,

(44:21):
no, no, mine mine workedjust fine. There were I was able
to get a haircut on Saturday morning, got some food for the dogs,
went to the supermarket and made aCostco run and yes, there wasn't all
beef hot dog, but you haveto be a member no stragglers. Saturday
night, I picked up a nicetry tip, seasoned it up with some
potatoes a salad, and drank somecold Modelo especial, watching the Dodgers lose

(44:46):
in the background. So sad didn'tdo anything on Sunday except for sleeping in
and doing things around the house toget ready for the work week. Oh.
I did see the Dodgers lose againand watched Billy Joel concert at Madison
Square Garden on tea last night.I cut that off. Oh, the
people on the East Coast are pissedoff. Apparently they cut this song short

(45:07):
right before the end of it andpeople just aren't having it. So apparently
CBS is going to replay it inits entirety. On April nineteenth, that
was my weekend. Guys, whatabout you petros any baseball games was out
of town and uh so my wife. I was with my children. You
didn't get here, No, we'reat my house. Hey, Union guy,

(45:34):
the wife's out of town. Comeon over, let's brow down.
I can honestly say that that didnot cross my mind. I believe the
Union guy, if I can trustsocial media, was in Fresno over the
weekend. Is that right? Ibelieve so big powerlifting conference. I think
it was a Mexican concert of somekind. Luis Miguel, I believe.

(45:57):
Well, all right, Verdad,I know what the Union guy did.
But for me, uh my onekid had a sleepover, and then one
kid had a sleepover at my house. Do you scare the kids for the
sleepover? And like play, Hey, I'm gonna be cool dad, and
everyone to turn all the lights andI'm gonna scare y'all. You know what
I do to scare them. Iget really drunk and I put on my

(46:17):
sleep mask and I go to sleep, and then something terrible happens and I'm
unable to be revived because I'm justlike dad, Dad, Are you okay?
Is that water? Actually it wasbet on the night's And know that

(46:40):
the I smelt that scotch. Whatdo you do to scare the kids?
Well, let me tell you.And we did have baseball on Saturday,
but it got rained out. Theytried to play it and we got an
inning end and my dad was likeit, why is I am freezing?
I was like, yeah, butthey're they're doing fine. They like it.

(47:00):
This is terrible. I was like, well, you should just leave.
Ah. It's one thing I hopeI don't discover an old age as
many of our parents do. Mineincluded is temperature. Oh it's cold.
It's never right. We're at arestaurants. Hi, it's so cold in
here. We're outdoors at a restaurant. My god, is a hot Can

(47:21):
we move? Everything revolves around thetemperature not being right no matter where you
are, it's never correct. Youcan't solve their problem, No, you
can't. I lived a life likethat. In the restaurant, I'm under
the vent switch with this idiot onthe other side of your table. It's
too hot over here. Huh.It's just like, okay, well,
what I don't know my son thismorning, my son's at eleven. I'm

(47:44):
driving him to school. He's like, I think I slept with my back
hurts, and I'm just like,what do you want me to do?
You're eleven. I can't do anythingfor you. What do you want me
to do? Walk on your back? Shut up? Here's a soma.
I don't want to hear about it. Of your bitches shut up. Here's
a dharmaseet God, I hate everybody. Maybe there's a P in this mattress?

(48:10):
What a P? And it's likea little p. Oh, but
you said P on his mattress.No, it's the book Kates. Come
on, man. Uh, thisis from Isabelle, She says, Ronnie,
Uh, the Dodgers one on Saturday. If you are watching whoa Oh,
my apologies is a bell. Iwas just corrected by Isabelle. Thank

(48:35):
you, Isabelle. Oh, Igot another one. Tell Ronnie you must
have been drunk on Saturday because theDodgers won on me. I actually was
really drunk on Saturday. Must havebeen the headphones. Huh oh okay,
show, get over it all.This is gonna be good. Good.
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