April 13, 2024 • 29 mins
Where Colin was right and wrong...plenty of both
Colin reacts to the National Championship
Dan Hurley joins the show to talk about becoming the first team in 17 years to win back-to-back National Championships in men's basketball
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listening to Fox Sports Radio all right. Time for Colin right,
Colin wrong? Here we go Where Colin was right? I said,
John Calipari always gets defensive and uncomfortable when you question
his vision on one and done. And so he just
bailed on a great program Kentucky to go to Arkansas
because he was uncomfortable with Kentucky, saying, uh, John, we
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need a little more in March. It's not a move
I would have made. He's gonna make a bunch of money,
but I think people finally ask the question, Yeah, it's recruiting,
it's great, but you gotta deliver in March. If you're
the head coach of Kentucky. Nobody cares how rich the
players get in the NBA. They want to be enriched
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at Kentucky. And that's what he didn't do the last
four or five years, where Colin was raw. I will
say this, for Luca and Kyrie, it's not just about winning.
The MAVs now are a top five defensive rated team,
and Kyrie has been a good teammate, and I just
didn't see it. I'd watched his career. I saw how
Boston worked, I saw how Brooklyn worked. All I know
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right now Luca and Kyrie have the highest net rating
in the league. The only one better is Jokich and
several teammates. So this is a big surprise for me.
They're better defensively, They're a lot of fun to watch.
They're offensively brilliant, a little bit like Phoenix, but a
better version where the offense is scintilating, but you just
don't know how it plays in later April, May and June.
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But I was wrong where Colin was right. Listen, I've
been saying this forever. Purists, you can't lean on him.
Go big in sports talk Dallas Cowboy is talk the
big brands. Women's college basketball IOWA on a Friday night,
and that's a terrible TV night. Beat every college football
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game except Michigan Ohio State. Lean into Stars is the
key to television. Stop with the purity stop. Caitland Clark's
the star, Tiger's a star, the Cowboys are stars. You
can't talk enough about Caitlin Clark and Iowa and stars.
It's how in a fragmented world people are busy and distracted.
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Caitland Clark galvanized the.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Country where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, I said, I watched Yukon play three times in
the regular season, and I said, I don't live for
college basketball. I'm a casual. But that is easily the
best team in college basketball. They are winning in the
tournament by twenty five a game, and these are the
best teams, and I think they'll win by about eight
or nine tonight. Dan Hurley on what he has built
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with the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Our identity is to be pretty relentless, and you know,
we might not break you for you know, eighteen minutes,
twenty five minutes, you know, but at some point, if
what we're doing at both ends and on the backboard
is at a high level, it just becomes hard for
the other team to sustain it. Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And that's why I think they beat Perdue, a very
good and worthy Perdue team. Tonight. We'll say about the
seventy eight seventy Fields about.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Doc rivers The Bucks are still a number two seed,
but he's fifteen and seventeen as a head coach. I
thought it would take a while, but it would be
better than this because Doc rivers history is he's good
with older teams. He was good when he got KG
and Ray Allen, and he's always been good with veteran players.
Some coaches are Frank Vogel is good with Biggs, Mike
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D'Antoni good with pacing. It has not worked. I know
that he deflects criticism. I know his rotation get a
lot of criticism. But I did think, oh, this will work,
this will fit, and it really this is a strained
team that just doesn't look right.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I said this before the season, enduring it. Jalen Brunson's
the biggest basketball star and the best basketball star in
New York since Patrick Ewing. I saw him play live Friday.
He's better. He's better than I thought. I love everything
about him. I love that he went to Villanova. I
love how tough he is. I love his resilience. He's
getting better. He scored forty three. The Knicks should not
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be beating Milwaukee. They should not be. He's just a
tremendous player, and being a star is more than just
about getting yours. People want to play with him. When
he's on the floor. He jumps off a TV. He
jumps when you're there. He is this force of nature.
I know a lot of small guys don't lead teams
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to titles, but I don't think he has to win
a title in New York to validate his greatness. Good
for Jalen Brunson where Colin was right Stefan Diggs. We
said it a year ago that Josh Allen was tired
of the drama. I'm a big fan of Stefon Diggs.
I would take him. I think the Texans got a
good player, but they wiped out the final three years
in his contract to make him a free agent after
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the season, and I think it's a smart move. Listen
in my life. For whatever reasons, I don't know why,
but wide receivers break the huddle first. It's more of
an individual position, and you know, sometimes they bring some drama.
I can think two things at once. I like the player.
I like the player a lot. I'm glad he's going
to the Texans. I think he'll make a difference. But
we called this for the last six months to a year.
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It just felt like it was increasingly strained in Buffalo,
where Colin was right. You know, defensive football coaches drive
me nuts. The Patriots signed a deal for a safety,
Kyle Duggar, who's a good player, for almost sixty million bucks.
Defensive coaches stop paying linebackers and safeties of fortune. Pay
wide receivers, tackles, quarterbacks and occasional running back. This is
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my issue with the Patriots. They hired somebody who has
the same vision, albeit a younger person, of Bill Belichick.
The teams right now that are growing and getting the
most out of draft picks, in my opinion, are offensive coaches.
Safeties are fine. They're fine, like a good safety. I'm
not paying sixty million for one.
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Speaker 1 (06:31):
Here we go on a Tuesday and our headline is
one you've heard several times Yukon national champs in basketball,
this time in men's often in men's and women's It's
the Herd wherever you may be and however you may
be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Nick right one hour from now. Jmak having lived around
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the program for years and for a decade, all my
friends in that area being diehard Yukon fans, you have
that proximity to a program, just like living in LA
and we know a lot of people that work for
you know, the Lakers or the Rams or the Chargers.
I've got to be honest, We're not supposed to root
in this business, but I like watching Yukon crush. I
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like watching Yukon basketball. My wife asked me, she said,
was the game any good last night? I said it
was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, made Buddy on Yukon easy winner.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. Nothing against Purdue, but
they didn't stand a chance. Nobody the last two years
seemingly does. In the American basketball culture, which is absolutely, unequivocally,
inarguably fallen behind Europe's, which often in America celebrates the
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wrong thing that coddles more than develops. It's very, very
difficult to stay focused and fight through that American basketball culture.
And Ukon does better than everybody. They keep basketball the
main thing. They grind their players, hold them accountable. Yet
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the players love it. The players lean into it because
great players in great programs want to be coached hard.
Yukon stands alone at the top of college basketball's mountain,
six titles twenty five years. Everything in their program is
done right. They use the NIL and the transfer portal,
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but they don't rely on it. Their coaching is probably
the best in the country. They play tough, physical basketball,
old biggie style. They can have old school centers and
new school guards and wings. Everything they do is the
way college basketball and I think America really likes it.
Some old school and some three pointers. It is a
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complete letless program. And Dan Hurley, the coach, is the
perfect guy. A Finnic, just snarky, East Coast enough fits
the program and the culture. Absolutely committed in a world
of TikTok, in a world of a lot of sizzleover substance,
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in a world of headlines over actually reading the article.
Yukon is the movie Oppenheimer, a historic three hour movie
about the Adam Baum and it swept through the awards.
Barbie was cute, fun people dressed up silly, no big,
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splashy adventure movie. No big movie star, former wrestler, nothing
against rock. But the reality is Yukon basketball is a
serious program that attracts serious people to its program. And
Dan Hurley's perfect for that. He's not worried about how
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he looks, got his hoodie in his office. The first
big shot of the second half. Yukon never loses when
they lead it half. Ever, they were forty seven to
zero going into last night's game. When they led thirty
six thirty at half, Newton comes down hits a three,
and I'm thinking, thirty nine thirty, it's over. We're just
playing out the string here. It's over. The game's officially over.
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And that's the way it is against Yukon most of
the last two years. Maybe this program, it just maybe
it wouldn't work out West. We have our good weather
and options. Maybe it wouldn't work in the south of
the Midwest. But it works in the East. It works
in Connecticut, it works in stores. I mean outside of
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Zach Edy, no other player thed you know five points
was your next big score for Purdue. I believe, and
I don't blame them. Zach Edy's great, He's fantastic. I'll
get to hit in a second. But what you're watching
is a combination of old school basketball, old school coaching,
but new schools smart, using the portal, using NIL, a
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lot of transfers here but not depending on it. I
think it's a joy to watch. Maybe it's because I
lived there for ten years, but I know how much
it means to the area, and it's just a relentless
program that squeezes every ounce of talent out of every coach,
out of every player, out of every transfer. Serious people
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like serious companies and programs, and that's what Yucon's all about.
And Dan Hurley saying we are different after I.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Just think it's the best two year run I think
in a very very long time, just because of everything
we lost from last year's team. To lose that much
and again to do what we did again, you know,
it's got to be as is impressive a two year
run as the program's had since prior to whoever did
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it before Duke. To me, it is more impressive than
what Florida and Duke did because they brought back their
entire teams.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now do Zach Edy produced dominant seven foot four center
who had another dominating night, And I was thinking about
what Dan Hurley said on our show about a week ago,
if Zach Edy doesn't work in the NBA, maybe that's
why the NBA has lost half its audience since Michael
Jordan retired. Every team in the NBA uses the same analytics,
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the same data. They play the exact same way esthetically,
kind of boring dunksan threes.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The American audience told you men's and women's college basketball,
we like some old school stuff. Caitlin Clark does she
feel like Hoosier's the underdog. Zach Edy feels like, you know,
old school centers. Everybody in the NBA plays the same way.
And then Minnesota, the Timberwolves said no, we're not going
to do that. We're gonna get two seven footers. And
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the t Wolves are the number one seed in the West.
They broke through by the way Spurs did this once,
David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Houston did this, a Keeman Ralph Sampson.
Minnesota said no, we're not We're not just going to
do the small ball thing. We're gonna go the opposite.
We're gonna get Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony Towns. I mean,
let me ask you this Zach Edy got two Yukon
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bigs in foul trouble all night, scored thirty seven points
against the guy that's going to go in the NBA draft.
Is every big in the NBA scoring thirty seven last night?
Zu Bots who averages twelve game for the Clippers old
school center? You think he scored thirty seven last night
and getting both of Yukon bigs in foul trouble. I mean,
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I don't know. I watched that. Nobody's blocking that shot,
seven foot four, three hundred pounds, and the dude is ripped.
He played more minutes than anybody in the tournament. That's
not that there are abs. He is a seven foot
four guy, three hundred pounds with abs. He is ripped.
He's not going anywhere. Well, he can't defend the wing.
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Is Anthony Davis a great wing defender? Or all these
bigs in the NBA outside of Wemby great wing defenders.
I don't know. But in the NBA, and I've heard
people in the league complain about this, every team uses
the same data and the same analytics, and it's like
Denver's better than everybody. And before that, Golden State was
better than everybody Minnesota said we're gonna try something new.
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We're gonna go with bigs. One guy doesn't even score much,
Rudy Gobert. The other guy's a little flaky. Karl Anthony Towns.
They're the number one seed in the West, and that's
what Karl Anthony Town's hurt. Hopefully coming back. So I
don't know. I look at Zach Edy, driven, tough, smart, finishes,
block shots. I mean, it's like Caitlyn Clark. Don't judge
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Caitlyn Clark and Zach Edy on the final college basketball
game they play and they lost. They're just different. They
look different. And again, Zach Edy last year. I remember
when Tim Tebow was in college and I watched them
as an underclassman, and then I watched him his final
year and it was the same guy. It was the
same game, slow delivery, didn't have a great arm, raw
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raw optimism. It was the same guy. Zach Edy's not
the same player he was a year ago. He's not.
He's a better finisher, he's in better shape, he's more relentless.
I mean, how many players have won multiple Nasmiths, Bill Walton,
Ralph Samson, Zach Edy. It says something doesn't it here,
he was after the loss.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
You can say whatever you want about me. You can
say however I play, you can say whatever, but you
can never say that I didn't give it one hundred
percent every single time I stepped on the floor, every
single time I went in practice. And that's that's what
I always hang my hand. I came in that I
never didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Dan Hurley's game plan was, yeah, we're not going to
be able to stop him, and they've got an NBA center.
Mark Few came on this show and said, I've been
doing this twenty five years. I've never faced anybody like that.
We can't stop him. Really, I mean when Dan Hurley
acknowledges stop the other guys. We've got an NBA center,
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Just stop the other guys. He's going to get his forty.
I don't know. Hurley said it a week ago. If
he doesn't make the NBA, this is supposed to be
the weakest draft ever, like like the Anthony Bennett draft,
And you're telling me he can't be a top fifteen pick.
I don't get it. Like if the audience is telling
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you we like basketball, we just don't want everything to
be a three or a dunk. Michael Jordan was a
mid range player, Magic Johnson wasn't a great shooter. Lebron's
hot and cold. Yes, Steph Curry is, But I don't
know when I watch Zach Eedi at seven to four
against NBA guys getting him all in foul trouble and
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dropping thirty seven, and Mark Fugh's like, yeah, there's just
porting no way to defend him. I can't believe there's
not a spot in pro basketball for him. Somewhere. There
are old school centers playing right now in the NBA
averaging double figures. He can be one of them.
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Speaker 1 (18:34):
Dan Hurley is joining us for the second time, lucky
for us. You know my favorite part this is funny
because you deal with sometimes you gotta be a salesman,
sometimes you gotta be a coach, but you're always a husband.
And I love your quote because my wife runs my
life and you're like, guys, my wife's gonna have a
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say in this. So like when in your life, when
you're coaching, the sport asks a lot of you. Have
you ever come home after a game and your wife's
like settled down, you're you're you're because you're an intense guy,
or does your wife stay out of that stuff? But
I'm gonna bring it up because you brought up your
wife and your relationship and being a coach's wife. Is
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it hard sometimes? Do you think for for Dan Hurley's
lovely wife, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Colin, it's it's hard for her on so many levels.
Right my you know, my intensity, my energy, my passionate overflows.
You know, she's she's gotta Your family reads, Uh, they
read the social media. You know that they hear the comments. Uh,
you know from people that think at times I act
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like a monster or or an animal. She uh, she
picks her spots. At times. She has said to me,
you know you, I think you've gone too far, you know,
this time either with an official or maybe with a
fan or just overall just what everything that I'm bringing
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to the table. She had. In fact, after year seven
as a high school coach, I got offered the job
at Narris College. Which would have been you know, an
opportunity earlier to get into the business, which would have
been you know, four or five times when I was
making at the time as a high school coach. But
she wouldn't let me take the job. So I stayed
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two years longer at Saint Beni's and then eventually got
the job at Wagner. So yeah, yeah, I mean she
does everything for me. I'm a one trick pony man.
This is all I'm really good at.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But you know, Dan, one of the things you come
from a legendary family is we I was talking with
somebody about this yesterday, Nick Wright, my buddy. We were
talking about, like, like to be great at certain things,
you got to be I'm assessed. I mean, if you
want to be great singer, you can't put it in
a nine to five. If you want to be a
great coach, it's not nine to five. I mean it's
five to nine at minimum. And there is a fine line.
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You're coaching. I love, but here's the most important thing.
Your players like it. And what's the communication Like with
your players when you're on them and you love them,
do you let them come back at you? What's that?
What's that relationship like with your players.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, you know, Colin, it's you're right. I mean, you're
you're to be you to be elite or to be
championship level, you've got to pour every part of yourself, uh,
you know into your position. You have to absolutely obsess
over every detail of your program, and if it's not
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functioning at a championship level, you know, you're you're you're
melting down over from the marketing, the branding to the
execution of its own offensive play. And then my relationship
with my players is it's it's pretty simple, you know,
behind closed doors in training, in practice, I push these
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guys to extreme levels. You know, I stress them out
absolutely to the max to develop their skills and to
have the habits embedded so deeply so that they don't
have to raise their level when they show up on
game night. We could take exactly what we're doing in
training because it's so intense and we don't have to
raise our level when the lights come on. And you know,
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any type of negative emotion that I have on game night,
it's directed at pretty much solely officials. You know, on gamelight,
I become like a cornerman for a boxer. Where you're
trying to create as much confidence for individuals in the group.
On game night, that's where you see me. I become
much more like a cheerleader, high fives, chest bumps, you know,
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threeze to the dome until Carmelo retire, and now I'm
just kind of going up in the air with it.
So yeah, man, your your your your position. I obsess
over over everyone's performance, and we spend so much time
with our players that there's a there's a mutual connection
that you could sense on game light with the way
we show up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So Donovan Klingon's gonna be a good NBA or he's
got real athletic skills, he's a big and yet Zach
Edy ends with thirty seven, get your bigs into foul trouble.
You acknowledged on our show if Zach Edy can't play
in the league, there's something wrong with the league. And
in your game you basically your game plan was all right,
he's gonna score. That's what Mark Fu said, Like, I
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don't know what to do, but you said, and Jay
Wright pointed this out very early, you know, like hey,
he basically said, we're gonna cover their guards. They're not
beating us on threes. Have you ever had a game
plan when you looked at film on a player and
just said, yeah, we're not going to stop that, even
with an NBA guy on him, We're not going to
stop that. I mean that much. That was where aspectful
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to Zach Eatie to.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Me, Yeah, and Kamani Young and Luke Murray, they prepare
a team and incredibly well and you know usually i'd say,
going into like ninety five percent of games, Colin, you're
you're trying to take away the other team's best player,
right or the other team, Yeah, the other team's biggest weapon.
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But just in studying produce season, Uh, it's just that
you're what you were going to open up yourself to was, uh,
you know, he's going to score one on one a lot.
The size, the skill, the strength, the experience, he was
going to get his anyway. But then once you start
doubling and bringing help and digging the ball out that
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now you open things up for the others to now
put them over the top with the production. So uh,
you know, the mindset was, you know, as long as
we could keep clinging out of foul trouble, you know,
just blanket the three point line and basically make them
one dimensional.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Was there an piphanyar a moment because you had some
transfers that were very valuable Newton Spencer And you know,
I always say in college basketball, I refuse to watch
it until January because the teams aren't right. I could watch.
I remember years ago watching Kansas in like November. They
were terrible, and then I watched them eight weeks later
and I'm like, oh, they could win the title. So
like you're I can't even figure you guys. Then all
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of a sudden, you get to February and you're like, Okay,
was there a moment this year a half where you
were talking to an assistant you wouldn't tell the players,
you're telling your wife, an assistant. You're driving home and
you're like, yeah, I'm not sure if anybody's gonna beat us,
did you? Was there a moment for you this year?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Probably not until until late I would say, really losing
the game to Creighton, and then and then responding the
way we did to finish the Big East regular season
and then and then you know, winning the Big East Tournament.
I think at that point you realized kind of what
you had I think as a coach. You know, Colin,
you you're always looking for vulnerabilities, blind spots, you know, weaknesses.
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You never feel like you're good enough. You know, you
always feel insecure about your team, and you you're always
kind of picking away at it and trying to find
the ways to make yourself less vulnerable. But the way
we closed it out there and in the Big East Tournament,
then you felt this enormous, enormous sense of pressure after
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MSG and in the Big East Tournament because you knew
what you had. You knew anything less than winning the
national championship with the group would feel like disappointment. When
you stood in front of the group, and the day
of the game, I just couldn't I couldn't get out
of my mind how horrible it would have felt like
if like the black and yellow confetti would have rained
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on our team's head as we were walking off the
court for we have lost that game because you know,
you knew we just we had a special team.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, Dan Hurley, Yukon basketball coach, Listen, you're gonna get
your phone. I don't even know who represents you. You've
I said this yesterday. You feel like Yukon, uh, but
you don't want schools to take advantage of that. Right,
You've got a big market if you wanted to leave
is would you ever have to What happens if somebody
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comes up and just brings up a Brinks truck and
then you have to go to your boss and say, Okay,
they gave me a zillion dollars, I like what I make.
Where are you on that? Because Dan, for the next
five years you're gonna get fifty offers? How do you
how do you kind of reconcile with the fact that
you love where you're at, but you may have somebody
double what you're worth. Where are you on that?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What do you do with that? Yeah, it's flattering. I've
come a long way since being a high school coach
fifteen years ago, and you know, havn't had to kind
of work my way up the ladder and the business
as a coach the way coaches did it, you know,
back a law time ago. You know, it's certainly flattering,
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But I've got a long career of turning down jobs
or more money to stay in places that you know
that I was happy and that fit me and that
you know, provide me the resources to at that level
achieve the things you want to achieve, and I mean
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right now, and you can you know my relationship with
Dabneic and what the place means to us. You know,
the opportunity to go for for for a three peat
right now is us. It's the only thing that is
obviously on anyone's mind here. So I just can't see
that being a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hey, Man, appreciate you on the show. You do it
the right way. I said this the other day. It's
just serious people. As you said, go to a serious place.
I love your style, I love your passion, I love
your intensity and where to go. Congratulate. Give yourself a
weekend off, take pit the phone off. You don't have
to recruit. Just go have a nice weekend down at
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the old say Brook or something and chill out. Is
that okay?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No man, I'm like, this is like Star trek Man.
They won't be in the portal. I guess they would,
just poor. I'm in the portal now like everybody else
and one of our biggest motivators to not lose.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know, they brought me back in so yeah, may Man.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
All right, into may all right, good luck Dan, Thanks.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Man later, Cale, I appreciate you brother all Right
Speaker 1 (29:35):
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listening to Fox Sports Radio all right. Time for Colin right,
Colin wrong? Here we go Where Colin was right? I said,
John Calipari always gets defensive and uncomfortable when you question
his vision on one and done. And so he just
bailed on a great program Kentucky to go to Arkansas
because he was uncomfortable with Kentucky, saying, uh, John, we
(00:45):
need a little more in March. It's not a move
I would have made. He's gonna make a bunch of money,
but I think people finally ask the question, Yeah, it's recruiting,
it's great, but you gotta deliver in March. If you're
the head coach of Kentucky. Nobody cares how rich the
players get in the NBA. They want to be enriched
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at Kentucky. And that's what he didn't do the last
four or five years, where Colin was raw. I will
say this, for Luca and Kyrie, it's not just about winning.
The MAVs now are a top five defensive rated team,
and Kyrie has been a good teammate, and I just
didn't see it. I'd watched his career. I saw how
Boston worked, I saw how Brooklyn worked. All I know
(01:28):
right now Luca and Kyrie have the highest net rating
in the league. The only one better is Jokich and
several teammates. So this is a big surprise for me.
They're better defensively, They're a lot of fun to watch.
They're offensively brilliant, a little bit like Phoenix, but a
better version where the offense is scintilating, but you just
don't know how it plays in later April, May and June.
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But I was wrong where Colin was right. Listen, I've
been saying this forever. Purists, you can't lean on him.
Go big in sports talk Dallas Cowboy is talk the
big brands. Women's college basketball IOWA on a Friday night,
and that's a terrible TV night. Beat every college football
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game except Michigan Ohio State. Lean into Stars is the
key to television. Stop with the purity stop. Caitland Clark's
the star, Tiger's a star, the Cowboys are stars. You
can't talk enough about Caitlin Clark and Iowa and stars.
It's how in a fragmented world people are busy and distracted.
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Caitland Clark galvanized the.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Country where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well, I said, I watched Yukon play three times in
the regular season, and I said, I don't live for
college basketball. I'm a casual. But that is easily the
best team in college basketball. They are winning in the
tournament by twenty five a game, and these are the
best teams, and I think they'll win by about eight
or nine tonight. Dan Hurley on what he has built
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with the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Our identity is to be pretty relentless, and you know,
we might not break you for you know, eighteen minutes,
twenty five minutes, you know, but at some point, if
what we're doing at both ends and on the backboard
is at a high level, it just becomes hard for
the other team to sustain it. Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And that's why I think they beat Perdue, a very
good and worthy Perdue team. Tonight. We'll say about the
seventy eight seventy Fields about.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Right where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Doc rivers The Bucks are still a number two seed,
but he's fifteen and seventeen as a head coach. I
thought it would take a while, but it would be
better than this because Doc rivers history is he's good
with older teams. He was good when he got KG
and Ray Allen, and he's always been good with veteran players.
Some coaches are Frank Vogel is good with Biggs, Mike
(03:53):
D'Antoni good with pacing. It has not worked. I know
that he deflects criticism. I know his rotation get a
lot of criticism. But I did think, oh, this will work,
this will fit, and it really this is a strained
team that just doesn't look right.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I said this before the season, enduring it. Jalen Brunson's
the biggest basketball star and the best basketball star in
New York since Patrick Ewing. I saw him play live Friday.
He's better. He's better than I thought. I love everything
about him. I love that he went to Villanova. I
love how tough he is. I love his resilience. He's
getting better. He scored forty three. The Knicks should not
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be beating Milwaukee. They should not be. He's just a
tremendous player, and being a star is more than just
about getting yours. People want to play with him. When
he's on the floor. He jumps off a TV. He
jumps when you're there. He is this force of nature.
I know a lot of small guys don't lead teams
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to titles, but I don't think he has to win
a title in New York to validate his greatness. Good
for Jalen Brunson where Colin was right Stefan Diggs. We
said it a year ago that Josh Allen was tired
of the drama. I'm a big fan of Stefon Diggs.
I would take him. I think the Texans got a
good player, but they wiped out the final three years
in his contract to make him a free agent after
(05:14):
the season, and I think it's a smart move. Listen
in my life. For whatever reasons, I don't know why,
but wide receivers break the huddle first. It's more of
an individual position, and you know, sometimes they bring some drama.
I can think two things at once. I like the player.
I like the player a lot. I'm glad he's going
to the Texans. I think he'll make a difference. But
we called this for the last six months to a year.
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It just felt like it was increasingly strained in Buffalo,
where Colin was right. You know, defensive football coaches drive
me nuts. The Patriots signed a deal for a safety,
Kyle Duggar, who's a good player, for almost sixty million bucks.
Defensive coaches stop paying linebackers and safeties of fortune. Pay
wide receivers, tackles, quarterbacks and occasional running back. This is
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my issue with the Patriots. They hired somebody who has
the same vision, albeit a younger person, of Bill Belichick.
The teams right now that are growing and getting the
most out of draft picks, in my opinion, are offensive coaches.
Safeties are fine. They're fine, like a good safety. I'm
not paying sixty million for one.
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Speaker 1 (06:31):
Here we go on a Tuesday and our headline is
one you've heard several times Yukon national champs in basketball,
this time in men's often in men's and women's It's
the Herd wherever you may be and however you may
be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Nick right one hour from now. Jmak having lived around
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the program for years and for a decade, all my
friends in that area being diehard Yukon fans, you have
that proximity to a program, just like living in LA
and we know a lot of people that work for
you know, the Lakers or the Rams or the Chargers.
I've got to be honest, We're not supposed to root
in this business, but I like watching Yukon crush. I
(07:19):
like watching Yukon basketball. My wife asked me, she said,
was the game any good last night? I said it
was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, made Buddy on Yukon easy winner.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, so let's talk about that. Nothing against Purdue, but
they didn't stand a chance. Nobody the last two years
seemingly does. In the American basketball culture, which is absolutely, unequivocally,
inarguably fallen behind Europe's, which often in America celebrates the
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wrong thing that coddles more than develops. It's very, very
difficult to stay focused and fight through that American basketball culture.
And Ukon does better than everybody. They keep basketball the
main thing. They grind their players, hold them accountable. Yet
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the players love it. The players lean into it because
great players in great programs want to be coached hard.
Yukon stands alone at the top of college basketball's mountain,
six titles twenty five years. Everything in their program is
done right. They use the NIL and the transfer portal,
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but they don't rely on it. Their coaching is probably
the best in the country. They play tough, physical basketball,
old biggie style. They can have old school centers and
new school guards and wings. Everything they do is the
way college basketball and I think America really likes it.
Some old school and some three pointers. It is a
(08:56):
complete letless program. And Dan Hurley, the coach, is the
perfect guy. A Finnic, just snarky, East Coast enough fits
the program and the culture. Absolutely committed in a world
of TikTok, in a world of a lot of sizzleover substance,
(09:16):
in a world of headlines over actually reading the article.
Yukon is the movie Oppenheimer, a historic three hour movie
about the Adam Baum and it swept through the awards.
Barbie was cute, fun people dressed up silly, no big,
(09:42):
splashy adventure movie. No big movie star, former wrestler, nothing
against rock. But the reality is Yukon basketball is a
serious program that attracts serious people to its program. And
Dan Hurley's perfect for that. He's not worried about how
(10:04):
he looks, got his hoodie in his office. The first
big shot of the second half. Yukon never loses when
they lead it half. Ever, they were forty seven to
zero going into last night's game. When they led thirty
six thirty at half, Newton comes down hits a three,
and I'm thinking, thirty nine thirty, it's over. We're just
playing out the string here. It's over. The game's officially over.
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And that's the way it is against Yukon most of
the last two years. Maybe this program, it just maybe
it wouldn't work out West. We have our good weather
and options. Maybe it wouldn't work in the south of
the Midwest. But it works in the East. It works
in Connecticut, it works in stores. I mean outside of
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Zach Edy, no other player thed you know five points
was your next big score for Purdue. I believe, and
I don't blame them. Zach Edy's great, He's fantastic. I'll
get to hit in a second. But what you're watching
is a combination of old school basketball, old school coaching,
but new schools smart, using the portal, using NIL, a
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lot of transfers here but not depending on it. I
think it's a joy to watch. Maybe it's because I
lived there for ten years, but I know how much
it means to the area, and it's just a relentless
program that squeezes every ounce of talent out of every coach,
out of every player, out of every transfer. Serious people
(11:38):
like serious companies and programs, and that's what Yucon's all about.
And Dan Hurley saying we are different after I.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Just think it's the best two year run I think
in a very very long time, just because of everything
we lost from last year's team. To lose that much
and again to do what we did again, you know,
it's got to be as is impressive a two year
run as the program's had since prior to whoever did
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it before Duke. To me, it is more impressive than
what Florida and Duke did because they brought back their
entire teams.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Now do Zach Edy produced dominant seven foot four center
who had another dominating night, And I was thinking about
what Dan Hurley said on our show about a week ago,
if Zach Edy doesn't work in the NBA, maybe that's
why the NBA has lost half its audience since Michael
Jordan retired. Every team in the NBA uses the same analytics,
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the same data. They play the exact same way esthetically,
kind of boring dunksan threes.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The American audience told you men's and women's college basketball,
we like some old school stuff. Caitlin Clark does she
feel like Hoosier's the underdog. Zach Edy feels like, you know,
old school centers. Everybody in the NBA plays the same way.
And then Minnesota, the Timberwolves said no, we're not going
to do that. We're gonna get two seven footers. And
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the t Wolves are the number one seed in the West.
They broke through by the way Spurs did this once,
David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Houston did this, a Keeman Ralph Sampson.
Minnesota said no, we're not We're not just going to
do the small ball thing. We're gonna go the opposite.
We're gonna get Rudy Gobert and Karl Anthony Towns. I mean,
let me ask you this Zach Edy got two Yukon
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bigs in foul trouble all night, scored thirty seven points
against the guy that's going to go in the NBA draft.
Is every big in the NBA scoring thirty seven last night?
Zu Bots who averages twelve game for the Clippers old
school center? You think he scored thirty seven last night
and getting both of Yukon bigs in foul trouble. I mean,
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I don't know. I watched that. Nobody's blocking that shot,
seven foot four, three hundred pounds, and the dude is ripped.
He played more minutes than anybody in the tournament. That's
not that there are abs. He is a seven foot
four guy, three hundred pounds with abs. He is ripped.
He's not going anywhere. Well, he can't defend the wing.
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Is Anthony Davis a great wing defender? Or all these
bigs in the NBA outside of Wemby great wing defenders.
I don't know. But in the NBA, and I've heard
people in the league complain about this, every team uses
the same data and the same analytics, and it's like
Denver's better than everybody. And before that, Golden State was
better than everybody Minnesota said we're gonna try something new.
(14:42):
We're gonna go with bigs. One guy doesn't even score much,
Rudy Gobert. The other guy's a little flaky. Karl Anthony Towns.
They're the number one seed in the West, and that's
what Karl Anthony Town's hurt. Hopefully coming back. So I
don't know. I look at Zach Edy, driven, tough, smart, finishes,
block shots. I mean, it's like Caitlyn Clark. Don't judge
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Caitlyn Clark and Zach Edy on the final college basketball
game they play and they lost. They're just different. They
look different. And again, Zach Edy last year. I remember
when Tim Tebow was in college and I watched them
as an underclassman, and then I watched him his final
year and it was the same guy. It was the
same game, slow delivery, didn't have a great arm, raw
(15:25):
raw optimism. It was the same guy. Zach Edy's not
the same player he was a year ago. He's not.
He's a better finisher, he's in better shape, he's more relentless.
I mean, how many players have won multiple Nasmiths, Bill Walton,
Ralph Samson, Zach Edy. It says something doesn't it here,
he was after the loss.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
You can say whatever you want about me. You can
say however I play, you can say whatever, but you
can never say that I didn't give it one hundred
percent every single time I stepped on the floor, every
single time I went in practice. And that's that's what
I always hang my hand. I came in that I
never didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Dan Hurley's game plan was, yeah, we're not going to
be able to stop him, and they've got an NBA center.
Mark Few came on this show and said, I've been
doing this twenty five years. I've never faced anybody like that.
We can't stop him. Really, I mean when Dan Hurley
acknowledges stop the other guys. We've got an NBA center,
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Just stop the other guys. He's going to get his forty.
I don't know. Hurley said it a week ago. If
he doesn't make the NBA, this is supposed to be
the weakest draft ever, like like the Anthony Bennett draft,
And you're telling me he can't be a top fifteen pick.
I don't get it. Like if the audience is telling
(16:49):
you we like basketball, we just don't want everything to
be a three or a dunk. Michael Jordan was a
mid range player, Magic Johnson wasn't a great shooter. Lebron's
hot and cold. Yes, Steph Curry is, But I don't
know when I watch Zach Eedi at seven to four
against NBA guys getting him all in foul trouble and
(17:11):
dropping thirty seven, and Mark Fugh's like, yeah, there's just
porting no way to defend him. I can't believe there's
not a spot in pro basketball for him. Somewhere. There
are old school centers playing right now in the NBA
averaging double figures. He can be one of them.
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Speaker 1 (18:34):
Dan Hurley is joining us for the second time, lucky
for us. You know my favorite part this is funny
because you deal with sometimes you gotta be a salesman,
sometimes you gotta be a coach, but you're always a husband.
And I love your quote because my wife runs my
life and you're like, guys, my wife's gonna have a
(18:55):
say in this. So like when in your life, when
you're coaching, the sport asks a lot of you. Have
you ever come home after a game and your wife's
like settled down, you're you're you're because you're an intense guy,
or does your wife stay out of that stuff? But
I'm gonna bring it up because you brought up your
wife and your relationship and being a coach's wife. Is
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it hard sometimes? Do you think for for Dan Hurley's
lovely wife, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Colin, it's it's hard for her on so many levels.
Right my you know, my intensity, my energy, my passionate overflows.
You know, she's she's gotta Your family reads, Uh, they
read the social media. You know that they hear the comments. Uh,
you know from people that think at times I act
(19:47):
like a monster or or an animal. She uh, she
picks her spots. At times. She has said to me,
you know you, I think you've gone too far, you know,
this time either with an official or maybe with a
fan or just overall just what everything that I'm bringing
(20:07):
to the table. She had. In fact, after year seven
as a high school coach, I got offered the job
at Narris College. Which would have been you know, an
opportunity earlier to get into the business, which would have
been you know, four or five times when I was
making at the time as a high school coach. But
she wouldn't let me take the job. So I stayed
(20:31):
two years longer at Saint Beni's and then eventually got
the job at Wagner. So yeah, yeah, I mean she
does everything for me. I'm a one trick pony man.
This is all I'm really good at.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But you know, Dan, one of the things you come
from a legendary family is we I was talking with
somebody about this yesterday, Nick Wright, my buddy. We were
talking about, like, like to be great at certain things,
you got to be I'm assessed. I mean, if you
want to be great singer, you can't put it in
a nine to five. If you want to be a
great coach, it's not nine to five. I mean it's
five to nine at minimum. And there is a fine line.
(21:11):
You're coaching. I love, but here's the most important thing.
Your players like it. And what's the communication Like with
your players when you're on them and you love them,
do you let them come back at you? What's that?
What's that relationship like with your players.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, you know, Colin, it's you're right. I mean, you're
you're to be you to be elite or to be
championship level, you've got to pour every part of yourself, uh,
you know into your position. You have to absolutely obsess
over every detail of your program, and if it's not
(21:50):
functioning at a championship level, you know, you're you're you're
melting down over from the marketing, the branding to the
execution of its own offensive play. And then my relationship
with my players is it's it's pretty simple, you know,
behind closed doors in training, in practice, I push these
(22:11):
guys to extreme levels. You know, I stress them out
absolutely to the max to develop their skills and to
have the habits embedded so deeply so that they don't
have to raise their level when they show up on
game night. We could take exactly what we're doing in
training because it's so intense and we don't have to
raise our level when the lights come on. And you know,
(22:33):
any type of negative emotion that I have on game night,
it's directed at pretty much solely officials. You know, on gamelight,
I become like a cornerman for a boxer. Where you're
trying to create as much confidence for individuals in the group.
On game night, that's where you see me. I become
much more like a cheerleader, high fives, chest bumps, you know,
(22:56):
threeze to the dome until Carmelo retire, and now I'm
just kind of going up in the air with it.
So yeah, man, your your your your position. I obsess
over over everyone's performance, and we spend so much time
with our players that there's a there's a mutual connection
that you could sense on game light with the way
we show up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So Donovan Klingon's gonna be a good NBA or he's
got real athletic skills, he's a big and yet Zach
Edy ends with thirty seven, get your bigs into foul trouble.
You acknowledged on our show if Zach Edy can't play
in the league, there's something wrong with the league. And
in your game you basically your game plan was all right,
he's gonna score. That's what Mark Fu said, Like, I
(23:38):
don't know what to do, but you said, and Jay
Wright pointed this out very early, you know, like hey,
he basically said, we're gonna cover their guards. They're not
beating us on threes. Have you ever had a game
plan when you looked at film on a player and
just said, yeah, we're not going to stop that, even
with an NBA guy on him, We're not going to
stop that. I mean that much. That was where aspectful
(24:00):
to Zach Eatie to.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Me, Yeah, and Kamani Young and Luke Murray, they prepare
a team and incredibly well and you know usually i'd say,
going into like ninety five percent of games, Colin, you're
you're trying to take away the other team's best player,
right or the other team, Yeah, the other team's biggest weapon.
(24:21):
But just in studying produce season, Uh, it's just that
you're what you were going to open up yourself to was, uh,
you know, he's going to score one on one a lot.
The size, the skill, the strength, the experience, he was
going to get his anyway. But then once you start
doubling and bringing help and digging the ball out that
(24:42):
now you open things up for the others to now
put them over the top with the production. So uh,
you know, the mindset was, you know, as long as
we could keep clinging out of foul trouble, you know,
just blanket the three point line and basically make them
one dimensional.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Was there an piphanyar a moment because you had some
transfers that were very valuable Newton Spencer And you know,
I always say in college basketball, I refuse to watch
it until January because the teams aren't right. I could watch.
I remember years ago watching Kansas in like November. They
were terrible, and then I watched them eight weeks later
and I'm like, oh, they could win the title. So
like you're I can't even figure you guys. Then all
(25:21):
of a sudden, you get to February and you're like, Okay,
was there a moment this year a half where you
were talking to an assistant you wouldn't tell the players,
you're telling your wife, an assistant. You're driving home and
you're like, yeah, I'm not sure if anybody's gonna beat us,
did you? Was there a moment for you this year?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Probably not until until late I would say, really losing
the game to Creighton, and then and then responding the
way we did to finish the Big East regular season
and then and then you know, winning the Big East Tournament.
I think at that point you realized kind of what
you had I think as a coach. You know, Colin,
you you're always looking for vulnerabilities, blind spots, you know, weaknesses.
(26:05):
You never feel like you're good enough. You know, you
always feel insecure about your team, and you you're always
kind of picking away at it and trying to find
the ways to make yourself less vulnerable. But the way
we closed it out there and in the Big East Tournament,
then you felt this enormous, enormous sense of pressure after
(26:29):
MSG and in the Big East Tournament because you knew
what you had. You knew anything less than winning the
national championship with the group would feel like disappointment. When
you stood in front of the group, and the day
of the game, I just couldn't I couldn't get out
of my mind how horrible it would have felt like
if like the black and yellow confetti would have rained
(26:50):
on our team's head as we were walking off the
court for we have lost that game because you know,
you knew we just we had a special team.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, Dan Hurley, Yukon basketball coach, Listen, you're gonna get
your phone. I don't even know who represents you. You've
I said this yesterday. You feel like Yukon, uh, but
you don't want schools to take advantage of that. Right,
You've got a big market if you wanted to leave
is would you ever have to What happens if somebody
(27:19):
comes up and just brings up a Brinks truck and
then you have to go to your boss and say, Okay,
they gave me a zillion dollars, I like what I make.
Where are you on that? Because Dan, for the next
five years you're gonna get fifty offers? How do you
how do you kind of reconcile with the fact that
you love where you're at, but you may have somebody
double what you're worth. Where are you on that?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What do you do with that? Yeah, it's flattering. I've
come a long way since being a high school coach
fifteen years ago, and you know, havn't had to kind
of work my way up the ladder and the business
as a coach the way coaches did it, you know,
back a law time ago. You know, it's certainly flattering,
(28:03):
But I've got a long career of turning down jobs
or more money to stay in places that you know
that I was happy and that fit me and that
you know, provide me the resources to at that level
achieve the things you want to achieve, and I mean
(28:24):
right now, and you can you know my relationship with
Dabneic and what the place means to us. You know,
the opportunity to go for for for a three peat
right now is us. It's the only thing that is
obviously on anyone's mind here. So I just can't see
that being a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hey, Man, appreciate you on the show. You do it
the right way. I said this the other day. It's
just serious people. As you said, go to a serious place.
I love your style, I love your passion, I love
your intensity and where to go. Congratulate. Give yourself a
weekend off, take pit the phone off. You don't have
to recruit. Just go have a nice weekend down at
(29:07):
the old say Brook or something and chill out. Is
that okay?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No man, I'm like, this is like Star trek Man.
They won't be in the portal. I guess they would,
just poor. I'm in the portal now like everybody else
and one of our biggest motivators to not lose.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know, they brought me back in so yeah, may Man.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
All right, into may all right, good luck Dan, Thanks.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Man later, Cale, I appreciate you brother all Right
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Great college basketball coach,
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