June 7, 2024 • 45 mins
Danny Green joins the show for the first game of our #ChampsOnly NBA Finals breakdowns. Danny and Draymond discuss the Boston Celtics win over the Dallas Mavericks, how the Celtics defended Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. They also discuss the Los Angeles Lakers coaching search with JJ Redick and Dan Hurley, and why the Golden State Warriors can still be contenders.
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6:00 Celtics set the tone
11:00 Defense on Luka/Kyrie
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32:00 Warriors future
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
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And now it's time to welcome our first guests of
Champs only and as I said, you can only be
here if you're a champion. This guy happens to be
a three time champion, as he just said before we
got on here. Warriors fans are not happy that he's
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the first guest on Champs. Only he beat us in
the champ Being ship, and I am honored to welcome
none the other three time champion, Danny Green.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Welcome to the show, my brother.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you having men. I'm
glad that there's some type of love on that side
of the coast.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Well, I guess in the Bay Area.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And I was asked earlier today, I was doing a
radio hit, like there's any organization that hates you, and
I couldn't think of one until you tweet. They tweeted
out that I was on your show, and I'm like, damn,
I know there's only one organization bro that The fans
are like, nah, they ain't messing with it. So but
you know, I understand, you know, I get it. Five
years ago, I was hoping some of them forgot about
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it or let it go. I'm not a dirty place.
I can't imagine how it is being the villain every night,
in every arena, So a lot of flowers. Kudos to you, brother,
because I just have one organization. That's because I was
thinking about teams where I've left and they might have
booed me, and actually they all received me pretty well.
But the only one that that does not like me
that much at all is Golden State fans. But you know,
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I still a lot of love to the fans everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So love brother, And you know, for us there's no
love loss. Obviously, we know you're not a dirty player.
Plays happen, bro, when you're competing on an NBA finals level,
on a championship level, I get it, Like two points
changes everything. And by the way, you know unfortunate. You
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know that Clay got hurt, like love Clay to death,
and like none of us are ever trying to hurt anybody.
It's very unfortunate. But like basketball is also very much
so a game of interest, just like football. And if
you come up with that block, what it does for
y'all from a momentum standpoint in a game where we
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really had the momentum, What that does for y'all from
a momentum standpoint, if you get that block, it changes
everything for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I mean you know how you know how critical everything
matters man, from moose balls to down the floor block
still and today's game and we're going to get to that.
There's a lot of guys, a lot of plays that
stuck out to me that started the momentum for Boston.
And it wasn't necessarily the stars, you know, you know,
I'm watching the others and I'm sure you are too,
but I really think Al Horford kind of set the
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tone for them tonight, and he's the one that came
out first basket dunk, hit three ball, and then I
think everybody kind of follows Suit Howser another guy hitting
three ball. Timely you get up that Bixi Dallas found something.
They cut it to eight, but those guys set the tone.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Then.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Of course Porzingis was just unbelievable. Night's first game back
in weeks, a couple of months so. But it was
an interesting game to watch, and I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
A fun series. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was a very fun serious. I think it's going
to be a very fun serious. It's very fun game
to watch. I one thing that I want to keep
my eye on is Porzingis, And the reason I want
to keep my eyes on Porzingius is like that first
game back, like you riding a high e bultions through
the roof, you feeling good, like adrenaline crazy. After that,
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when you no longer can ride off the emotions and
you got to ride off of the work that I
put in. Not saying he hasn't put the work in,
but your work has been limited reason reason you've been out,
you know, and so when you then got to rely
back on that and not necessarily the juice of like
I'm back out here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I want to see how he responds. You know how
that comes.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
About, you know, yeah, because that's gonna be like he
was huge for them tonight.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I know, I know you got a Boston fan on
staff there. They played well tonight. Hell of a win
for him, but Dallas found some things. I wouldn't be
too confident after watching Tians get I didn't have a
great game, and I don't think the energy said Zink
is gonna be able to sustain that. Like you said,
everybody has their group chets, everybody's playing GM, everybody's watching
and criticize, and they're like yore Porzingis had a hell
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of a game.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But there's no way he can sustain that. There's no
way you can keep that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Energy yet three in the first quarter, and that's where
I was watching more so is what he's gonna do
with defenseven and.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
He stopped the lob for Dallas. You know, that was
a key thing for Dallas.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And you know Kai and Luca weren't able to get
to the room as easy or you know, find Lively
and Gaffer for lobs. That's a big change. But I
think Dallas is gonna They're gonna find something. Jk is
gonna find something. They they still they switched, They didn't
trap as much. I didn't see many of that. Both
teams switched and they're gonna take advantage of that. Luca
took him a quarter to settle in, but once he
settled in, he's he's found, so he knows where he's
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at now. Kyle just has to settle once that happens.
So we're gonna have a series. Man, It's gonna be
a real series.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I agree with that, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Funny enough, I I thought in my prediction, I said
that Dallas will lose this game. And the reason I
thought that they would lose this game was because the Celtics,
like and I played against this team this year.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There their lanth and you've played against them through the years.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That the lane like Jason Tatum is sixteen, Jay Brown
at six eight, Drew Is six ' five, Derek White
six ' five, Al har for sixteen sixty eleven. When
you have that much length on the floor, there's no gaps, right,
and they switched, they load up right when you Portzinga
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is seven feet even Sam Hopkson come off the bench
six ' nine. Like the only guy that they play
that's under six five it's Peyton Prescher and he don't
play much. When you have that type of length and
you can speak to it like that was kind of
our team for all those years. That was your team
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in Toronto. You Kawhi only guy that played though smaller
than that, Fred and Fred and Differenty'll play way bigger
than his size, right, Like, but you got Pascal, you
got you, you got Bouchet, like.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Kwan marcasol normal, we had o g didn't even play.
We had og on that roster, but we had a
we had a really good defensive squad and we figured
it out. But like you said that that that defensively,
they have a lot of length. The only thing with
Boston I said, I'm not confident because you know, they
live and die by the three.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
They came out, they came out.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Very hot, and they're always gonna have a game or
two where it's gonna be it's gonna be dry, you
know what I'm saying, They're gonna be cold. So when
that happens, we're gonna see if that defensive Porzingis can
continue to protect the rim and if they can stay
in a game. But ultimately they're gonna drop a game
or two just because they they're not gonna shoot well.
And then if Dallas can steal a game or two
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a game or so just because they you know, play
well and they limit them.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
This is gonna be a six to seven game series.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
That's what we've been looking for for a while, because
you know, Finals hasn't been Actually no, I'm tripping. Finals
have been pretty good since she won six games before
that it went to you know, six.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Games, so it's been pretty good. It's a good matchup
for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So tell me this.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So coming into this game as a coach, when you
get to this level and you know it, you gotta
pick something that's gonna beat you, and it is very
evident what Boston said today is gonna beat us, meaning Luca,
we not helping on your drives.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We forced you to dry and were not helping take
the layup.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You're gonna have to score seventy or sixty sixties. So
go ahead, try to beat us by yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
One assists, Luca has that's unheard, Luca god won assist.
Do you think that game plan from Dallas, I mean,
excuse me, from Boston where they can where they kept
those other guys out tonight and gave up what they
gave up to Luca, do you think that continues to
work or what would your adjustment be if you're the
Dallas Mavericks on how to get the other guys involved.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know, we were talking before you got on.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You were saying how blowouts are never a good thing
and never advantage for the team that won, because a
lot of times you just don't make the adjustments. You're like, oh, worked,
but you should have a backup because obviously the team
that lost is gonna make plenty of adjustments, and you
need to make sure you have adjustments for their adjustments.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I don't think it's gonna work. It worked early.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Jaylen Brown played great defense early first first half, fucking
Luca a couple of times, making a physical al Horford
even contested to block the shot or two. Like, that's
not gonna be sustainable for the seven game series. Al
Horford and those guys switching on to Kai and Luca
is not gonna work.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I think they're gonna have to change up.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Once Luca gets going early, They're gonna probably try to
trap himself if Kai gets in the rhythm.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Ky just had a very off night, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Like, when you have to both those threats going, the
other guys are just gonna open up. You can't just
stay home and let those guys kill because they will
kill you and they.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Can win games.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
It reminds me of to bring not to bring back
bad memories for you guys, but when Bron and Kai,
you know, you don't see that often when guys two guys.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Can beat you.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
In fact, they did it, and then these two guys
have the talent enough to beat you with just those guys.
So ultimately, I think Boston isn't to have an adjustment.
They're not probably gonna make it right now or right away.
It might take a loss to figure that out, but
you don't want to take a loss going back to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I'm saying you want to be one one going into Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Absolutely, No, I agree. One, Like, you can tell Kyle
was having an off game. Ky dribble the ball off
his shoot?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, Ky don't lose the balls.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, Like so you could tell it was off.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I think for him too, Like for him, I
think also he has to make the emotional adjustment, right,
Like you go back in this place, NBA Finals where
they were expecting you to bring them to NBA Finals.
Now you going back there, Like what's that like emotionally
going back to a place where you've played and and
like this is the NBA Finals, so this isn't even
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different thing. Like I think he has to adjust emotionally
as well.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's and this is why I was like, it depends
on what And we look at Kayle like, you know,
Kay is great, And I'm like, even though Kay is
Kay is one of the strongest mentally mental, you know,
tougher guys in the league. No matter who you are,
going back to a place you played before, it is
not easy emotions. Just you just never know how it's
gonna turn out. And you've never experiencedfore and I hope
you never have to. But if you leave a place
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and you've been there for a long time and you
go back and try to play that even if they
don't bow you. Because we went back when I was
with Kawhi and Toronto, they bowed the hell out of Kawhi.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
They cheered for me. They still cheer for me, which
was which was cool.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
But I don't think I've ever had a I haven't
had a good game in San Antonio since I left there.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
You know, it's just not easy to do. And it's
just like adrenaline.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It might take it the wrong we might shoot too much,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you just never know
how the emotions are gonna make you play it make
maybe you play really well. I feel like there's no
in between. You're gonna play really good or shitty, it's
gonna be a really bad game. So I've had some
good games against San Antonio at my home teams arena,
but just not in San Antonio. And it's just one
of those places it's just hard to settle in. It's
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hard to feel comfortable or you feel too comfortable.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
It's like them.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't know why shots aren't dropping, but I knew
it was gonna take him a game or a quarter
at least. I have to like let those emotions kind
of still settle. Even though it's been removed, still didn't
leave in a great way. And I can't imagine playing
your former team on this stage of how hot you
know you want to do, You want to do well
so badly that it you know it may counter right,
like be kind of productive, may affect you differently. So
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either way, it's a I think Ky's gonna settle in.
He'll be fine, but it's just not an easy place
or easy situation to be in.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And I said, I hope you never get have to
experience it, because it's it can get ugly for you
and you'd be like, damn, you be thinking about it
all night, all day, all year. And then said, CON's
mentally tough. He'll bounce back, but you just never know.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I got my fingers crossed. I hope never.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know. It just dawned on me and thinking about
you fucking beat me in the NBA five, I mean
in the NCAA championship too.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I just thought about that.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
We've been we go back, We go back, Bro, we
go back in some time. We go back some time.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Since college, Yes, I've been fortunate enough to have some
really good teams and some good teammates that I had, Tyler,
I had, Tye had Wayne, you know what I'm saying.
And then so when I was in San Antonio, y'all
were like, said, of course, you know, Steve came from there,
Mike Brown came from there. So y'all were like a
little brother. And eventually it's only be a matter of
time before y'all start kicking ass. And we knew it,
and we got old, we got older, and then you know, yeah,
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y'all playing five out, y'all changed the whole league to
small ball, and it was like, Damn, I don't think
we can I don't think we played Timmy in the series.
Don't think we could play Timmy the series. We had
to sit them, and yeah, we had a chance. We
had a shot that y'all got kd We had Marcus
and why and then why when he had the ankle
go down, it was over for that.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yeah, we're going back from for some time.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Now, Bro, fifteen years now, fifteen sixteen years we've been competing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Do you do you still wish to play right now?
Or like, do you think this is it for you?
You just by the way you do it? In credit,
I enjoyed watching you on TV.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Bro. I appreciate you job and.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like, you know, like you don't need that from me,
but I just enjoy watch I fucking hate watching a
lot of people on TV, but I really enjoy watching
you on TV.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
As much as I'm not a fan of dupe guys,
there's certain guys that are good on TV, and JJ
was one of them because he backs us, you know
what I'm saying. And I always like make sure that
we you know, we can criticize guys, but not tear
him down. And regardless of that, you know, I want
to if I can criticize it. I want to be
able to do that and be in that space. And
I still have a lot to learn. I'm learning from
everybody when I do it, even you.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
You know what I'm saying. You handle yourself very.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Well, bro, And for me, it's like I know, I
got to slow down. I talk too slow, I talk
too fast. I got to slow down. I got to
be louder, try to make some good points, like you're
really good at that, grabbing the viewers attention, making some
good points, you know what I'm saying, dropping some bars,
dropping some gems. People like oh Joe Dre got some
bars with them, know what I'm saying. So I'm learning
from everybody. So it's it's been great for me. It's
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a new challenge. People don't understand how different it is
and it can be fun, but also how it's not easy.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
You know, it's not easy to do with people are
doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So much respect to all those guys that do it
at a high level and grab people's attention and do
and said do as a profession. So now for me, man,
I'm still trying to hoop. Bro just unfortunate. This year
I was with Philly training Camp. I thought I had
a really good training camp and to me, it showed
me that like I could still hoop.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It was like.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
The training camp was like, yeah, I still belong here,
I still can hoop. I still play. But James wanted out.
Trade happened. They brought in more guys and they sent
out and my contract wasn't guaranteed. You know, me and
Daryl had a situation whatever, So they were talking about
Nick Nurse wanted to bring me back. It just didn't happen.
But I feel like I have another, you know, a
few years left, a couple of years left to hoop,
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you know, because I can do TV anymore. We can
do that. We're forty fifty years old, and I thought
about it. Now something comes along where it's like, all right,
they give me a deal or a certain type of network.
It's like we want you and they like to hang
it up. It's going to take some more. But like
I'm not married to the NBA. If I really want
to play valleto the conversation with the wife but just
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had a little one. If she wants to play and
she's okay with travel because going somewhere else, to another country,
I don't know. But it's like, yeah, we only got
two more years, maybe three more years left to this
of hooping, and might.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
As will make the most of it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
If you want to live in a nice country, it
has to make sense though, if I go overseas, it
has to be a really nice country where you're living well.
But if not give another shot here, play, see what happens.
But you know, ultimately transitioning man, just just adapting tojustin
and learning the media game and you know, making sure
that I have something because I'm not going to be
one of those type of guys work. I mean, we
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all we all want to save to where we don't
have to work. But I just can't see myself sitting
at home and not doing a damn thing, saying, I
gotta be doing something, bro. Got to find a purpose
other than you know what I'm saying with the kids
and coaching them, of course, but I can't just be
at home and being a house dad or a house husband.
But yeah, ultimately I still want to play. Hopefully somebody
will give me another opportunity, another shot. But if they
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were to see me playing and see me work out,
they'd be like, you know what, he's still he can
still hoop, he can still move, and I think I
could help a team, but not I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Healthy, bro, I think I'm two years out now.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I was pretty I felt really healthy this past year
to it was a training camp of Philly went really good. Okay,
but yeah, just the luck of the I mean, cars
didn't play out that way. You know how teams with
the taxes, the cap, you know, teams are scared. People
don't want to go into the bratle you know, the
second second apron whatever.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah, just a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
The politics come into play, so you know just how
it plays out sometimes.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, no doubt, I respect that. Man.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
A lot of people don't understand, like they're like, oh, you,
your contract would be this, Like I've been in the
league this amount of years, so my number looks different
than the guy if you bring in in their second year,
that number looks totally different than what it does for
the cap.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
People don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
They're like, oh, man, like he can't hoop number, Like, no,
he can't hoop for sure, Like and they don't understand
the numbers, like how it works and the taxes and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Just I pray that you don't well you can't fight
getting old, but just don't ever get hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
When you get hurt in your old the league just.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They forget about you or they just like, ah, you know,
your time is up. They ain't kind of really messing
with it. They'd rather find a younger guy groom them.
And they said it's cheaper so they cheaper than younger.
But yeah, man, I hope you don't have to. But
I feel like for everybody it's it's always like a
culture shock, trying to figure it out, trying to navigate me.
And you were kind of, you know, tapping into other things.
But most guys don't know what to do after. That's
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a fact and a lot of things people were taking
your your statement out of context. I feel like when
you're talking about, you know, the league doesn't really set
us up to be wealthy after you know, you talk
about the fines and things like that. I think it's
more so like that type of situation, but also the
lifestyle doesn't set you up for you know what I'm saying.
I think that's more of the point that people are missing.
It's like you're making a lot of money, but when
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you make a lot of money, ultimately your bills are
just can become more Naturally, you make five million dollars
a year, you're going to have five hundred thousand dollars bills,
maybe a million. If you make ten million dollars, it's
gonna be a million or two million. You make twenty
you probably have like two or three million dollar bills. Now,
you may save up forty fifty when you're done. But
if you don't work and you got three million dollar
bills per year, your bills are three million dollars per year.
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You got ten twenty years to make it last. As
about it, you still got lived to eighty. You know
what I'm saying. But everybody else you don't realize. You
have to get a job to at least cover the bills.
Get another job where at least covers two three million.
You can let that save if you want generational wealth
for your kids to have it. You know, you find
a job to cover the bills. But a lot of
guys don't prepare for that, so they don't have a
job when they're done to cover the bills. Ultimately, they're
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not broke, but it's only a matter of time before
that money runs out in about ten years.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And you know, you don't hit you until you're done playing.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
You like, you realize how expensive shit is, Like, Damn,
that wasn't expensive when I was playing, But when I'm
done playing, the checks ain't coming. Damn Fuck that costs
that much. When you're trying to budget, it's a different thing, man.
So I'm glad I'm going through it. I'm glad I'm
learning it as I'm then, I was prepared for a
vets that taught me like, yo, try to tap into
this and have other things to fall back on. And
I have a lot of opportunities. People called like seeing
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if I wanted to do coaching interviews and I'm like, yeah,
I'm not ready yet do media. So yeah, I've been
blessed man to be around some great people and some
good organizations that give me opportunities for after basketball as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No doubt, man, that's great to hear switching gears a
little bit as a player who's, like you said, you know,
want to do it, still can do it, probably will
still continue to do it, but it's closer to the
end than you are the beginning as I am, and
and understanding as a former player, the opportunities that we have.
(23:25):
What was your thoughts on the Lakers the rumors that
the Lakers zeroing in on JJ Reddick, former player, you know,
just like more former players getting these these coaching jobs
and being in and running for these jobs. What was
your thoughts on Jj? You mentioned them being you know
with that report coming.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Out, Yeah, I mean I like JJ. I think we
all respect to what he does for us in the media.
You know what I'm saying, He does a great job.
I think he has a great basketball mind.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You know the reports are going around now.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Dan Hurley is another candidate, But I think JJ does
deserve a coaching job. I don't know if I would
like that one for him. You know, the Lakers' job
is a tough one.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Man.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
People think you know your tough mental player, kid, coach, whatever.
You're like, you know I could do anything. I've been
through the ring. You know I can handle it. I'll
be fine. So you get in there. That ring is
a different type of ring. And I've seen certain guys,
even the most tough. It's got Russell Westbrook. There's not
a guy that I know in this league that is
tough mentally than him.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
That carries that confidence chip on his shoulder night and
night out. Don't give a damn with who says anything.
And he went to LA and he just looked like
a different person. And I'm like, damn, those lights are different,
that organization, those fans are different. It can change you,
It can kind of break some people, and it can
make a break your career and that's your first coaching
job for Jjm's like, I don't know if that's the
first one I want to get into, you know what
(24:47):
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
But I think it's I think it's a good high.
I think it's dope.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Ibouls see some conflicts with JJ and Bron having the podcast.
You know, they're not sure if you don't get the
respect in the locker room. If Bron respects him, everybody
else should. I think everybody else respects you. Even as
a player. He was a really good player. He's a
great player, and he's so good at what he does
media wise, he's you know, people kind of forgetting how
good he was as a player. That's how good he
is as a media hit. But yeah, I think it's
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a good I think he's a good higher anywhere. But
I just for JJ. I think it's gonna be tough,
and if i'm him, I don't know if I want
that to be my first one. I don't know what
your thoughts on it, if you have any other better candidates,
and whose assistant coaches over there? Y'all have some good
assistants over there, Like is this somebody you think would
fit better.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And I think JJ would do a great job.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And I think you know, with the report that him
and Brian have, Like, at the end of the day,
no coach in the NBA is successful without.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
The back end of their best player.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like if their best player on the back there, that
coach ain't going to be successful. So I think with
their report that they have, I'd imagine that Brian, you
do a podcast with this man, I'd imagine you respect them,
you respect this basketball mind, you respect all those things.
So to your point, if you know, you know, if
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that's the case, then I think that ultimately helps where
I think the business of the NBA happens. It's like
when you see people don't understand the dynamic of having
multiple stars, right yeah, And the dynamic of having multiple
stars can be different. So there could be a dynamic
where JJ, like Bron loves JJ and.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Wants him as the coach.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Anthony Davis is a totally different start that may want
something else. I don't notice to be facts. I'm just
saying how the dynamics could work. Because for me, when
I see Dan Hurley all of a sudden come out
of nowhere like he's their guy, their reporting, they're flying
them out to LA like just a day ago they
were zeroing in on JJ.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Raight.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now, yes, these are reports, but this is Sham's reporting,
Like this ain't Fox News or like, yeah, this is
Sham's reporting. And so you know when he reports, when
Woldes reports and holds water, that's a different thing like that,
like they know what and so for that to come
out one day and then the next day, it's like
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damn Hurley to me, like how does that change that fast?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I just sit back and I'm like, WHOA, Maybe
this happened because I do understand dynamic of stars in
the NBA for sure.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
It's interesting also because I feel like we came in
at a similar time. Early on, social media wasn't as
big when we first got into the league.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
It grew, and.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Certain things that were reported did not affect how people coached,
how people traded, gms looked at things. You can see
now how the media is huge and it can get
into locker rooms, it can get into organizations. I think
when they put out the JJ thing, they didn't like
the responses that they got and people were like, what
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the hell is this serious? I thought this was a
joke or you know who's gonna brought Like they probably
saw a lot of negative heat and was like, are
you not vetting anybody else? Is in no better candidates?
I like James Barrego, I had him in San Antonio,
JB good people's everybody else that is really good has
a job already or has been picked up, so it's
not a lot of options. I think this was, I
want to say, like a cover up, but it was
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something like, all right, we gotta do we gotta do
some other research and see other options. Now does Dan
take the job?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I don't. I don't think he does.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
I don't think it makes sense for Lea Yukon, especially
if he can get extended there for the same amount
of money and stay in Connecticut, because it's a tough situation.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
But you know, who knows.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I thought that, you know, maybe Kentucky would have threw
some money at him when you know Cale left for Arkansas.
But yeah, he's got to pick up. Literally, he's in
a really good situation and he can do whatever he
wants to do. I don't know if he would take
the Lakers job, but I think this is just them
kind of like seeing the response they got from the
media and like, all right, we gotta kind of see
you see what else is out there and see what
the see what the response is from Like Dan Hurley,
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what do they think of that? I'm people like, Oh,
this is a probably really good candidate because JJ, even
though he's really great, he's never coached before, you know
what I'm saying, Like, it's like we've kind of forget
that you would think that yet because of how smart
he is and how he knows the game, how he
talks in the media.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
It's like, Yo, he's really good. He's really never coached before.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
And fact for him, I wouldn't want that that job
for him, having to manage that locker room with egos
and that nature. I have a couple of questions for you,
like what do you think outside of coaching, what pieces
do you think they need the Lakers, Yeah, to like
make because I thought they had great foundation. I thought
it worked. Obviously, they match up with Denver, which is
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not the best matchup for them, but I feel like
any of the series they could win or beat teams.
But obviously they're missing some pieces. So you keep a
D and Brown. What moves they talk about Trey Young
they talk about the John say, Murray, what do you
think they should do? Or make put your GM out
on what do you if you're the Lakers, what do
you do? Coaching wise and players wise?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I think any young guard they can get would be
like what helped that team because for them, if you
got like a Trey Young or de Johntay Murray with
the back end of Bron and eighty, like, that's a
totally different thing. And that young guard is in point
guard in Bron's point guard school because Bron is a
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point guard point guard. He's been a point guard his
whole life, right, So not only with their skill, you know,
and you know whoever that young guard can be. It
don't have to be a Dejohntey or Trey that's just
the names you mentioned. But like any young guard, you
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have talent, you have skill, your dynamic in the way
that these young guards are in the NBA and you
get to go to bron point guard school and you
get to play with one of the best bigs in
the NBA and Anthony Davis, like you and I both know,
for a long time, teams were built in the NBA
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on having a great guard and a great big and
you feel everything else out in between. Then it starts
changing with like us, but you're starting to see that
shift back again, like that is starting to shift back
to like.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
It's just a different big now. It's like a check
type of big now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Absolutely, And so with that shift kind of happening, like
so now you say you got a great big and
Anthony Davis, and you get you got like a guard
young guard that can go to Lebron James point guard school.
Oh and by the way, you still got Lebron James
who can get great at any moment. Don't don't gotta
(31:36):
beat there all the time. He's in your twenty seven like,
but can get be great in the blink.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Of an eye in any moment.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You need in between that, Like, I think that's I
think that's that's dangerous and none of us will want
to see that, you know. So I think, you know,
I think they you know, it's going to be interesting
to see what they do.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But if I'm not mistaken, little Rule, they.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Got, they got pieces, they got stuff they can do. Ultimately,
I think they need to start preparing for the future.
And that's if Anthony Davis stays there. They do need
somebody to replace Bron instead of a guard that's a
young guard that can kind of do some of the
similar things or give you that type of dynamic of
the you know, the one two punch.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Man, it's a tough job.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I'm glad I don't have it being that GM, but
I also have incredible job though he's been doing this
thing man, big shout out to him. But I do
have one other question for me to take off your podcast.
I love, but for you guys, man, I think you
guys are still a contender. You keep the group that
y'all have together. What is it you think that y'all
(32:42):
were missing this year? Obviously you had some ups and downs,
you being in now some injuries. What do you what
changes do you think you might need to make or
what you think you need to do for y'all to
get back to where y'all work for next year.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like I think for us, like it's going to be
very important for us to define who it is that
we're gonna be Like, like we change him, bro, Like
like you said, we get older, Like we are not
the same basketball team that we were in twenty nineteen
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or even in twenty twenty two for that matter, Like, yeah,
it changes, you know what I'm saying, And I think,
you know, we're adjusting to that change, which is which
is great. Like Steve, I think Steve is doing an
incredible job of where he's becoming more open to like
Jonathan Kaminga having the ball more like Kaminga being in
the pick and roll and like running some ISOs for Kaminga,
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whereas you know, it takes some time to adjust to
that when you've had the level of success that we've
had doing what we've done, like, it takes some time
to adjust to that. And it also takes you know,
everybody want to come in and do things right away.
And I think what Kaminga end up learning. And I
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commend him. I commend the young fella because he's stuck
with it. Is you come in and you're looking at
like a Jalen Green or one of those guys that's
in Houston or you know, in one of those places
that you know they got in, they got the ball right.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Away and do what the hell they wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It right and you look at that and you like, man,
I want to you know, I want to show what
I can do and you don't realize. And like I said,
this is this is no knock on Jonathan Minga. That's
my young fellow. I love him to death. And again
I'm crediting him. You don't realize that. A. When I'm
in a great situation, respect is earned. B. They've done
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things a certain way, and it saw me to show
them that doing this work my way where I can
be successful, will work for them and they should do that.
And you know, when I watched the young fella's growth
is for a little while, it was up and down
because I don't think he understood that. And by the way,
how do you understand that without going through it? And
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then I think it clicked for him. Let me do
the things that I need to do to get on
the court. Once I'm on the court, I can then
do a little more of what I know I'm capable
of doing. Oh and by the way, when I do that, now,
all of a sudden, Steve Kirk trust me. And I
scored twenty points in seventeen eighteen straight games in a
row because he trusts me.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Oh, look how that works.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And so I think you know that has helped like
young guys, you know, we got the young guys coming along.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And VP and Trace.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Like I think as the year went on, you started
to see, like, man, Trace is a real live threat.
You know, we went through the early part of the
year without necessarily having a live threat, you know what
I'm saying. And me and lou Me and Lune got
a certain chemistry that's great.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I love playing with Kavan Looney man, you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Know, but like with the lead changing and getting bigger,
we ain't that athletic together. You started to see, all right,
you know, they start like separating me and Lune, like,
all right, I'm in the lineup when I'm out, los
in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You know what I'm saying, loos in when.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I'm out the game, looning Because you just start to
see the league's changing, and so then all of a sudden,
incorporate that young live threat, and that changes our offense,
it changes our defense, and things start to change it.
So I think for us it is just important for
us to shore up. I always tell people, and you
(36:18):
know it, Championships are one six through ten, yeah, and
championships are not one one through five, And so it's
just on us to shore up and make the decisions
of what does our six to ten look like? You know,
what does our one to five look like? Does that mean, Draymond,
you're out of the start lineup and cominga's in? Although
(36:39):
I think comingas are better three than necessarily a four. Right,
But like, these are the decisions that we have to make.
And you know, like you said, I'm happy I ain't
got the job. It's all those things. But Steve's great
in those situations. I think he'll make them. I think
Mike's doing a great job. It'll be very important for
us to try to get Klay back, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I think, you know that's huge. What what does Clay do?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
If Clay decides not to come back, then what does
that look like for us?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Like are you swinging to try to get another big guy?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Like? What does that look like? And so it'll be weird.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I just think there are some decisions that have to
be made for us, and I trust and know that
our front office and our coach staff will make the
right decisions. But I think we still got a small
window to make something happen.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And you know, I know this.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Organization will honor Steph and myself and Clay I know
they'll honor us in that way of giving us every
chance they can to help us win.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yeah, Dunleavy's done a great job, man, So it's Steve.
I love what they've done. I said, it'd be weird
to see Clay in another uniform. I hope he doesn't leave.
It'll just be weird. And as much as I fucking
hate y'all winning so much and competing agains y'all, it's
just weird to see a group like that special to
have to break up because of you know, some other things.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But yeah, the end.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Of the day, ultimate when we talk about the young
guys that do I hope y'all keep your core. You said,
filling in with some pieces, because if y'all just stay
consistent and healthy, y'all just had some and like y'all
would definitely playoff team. It's just getting back to the
level of contention, and if y'all are healthy, I think
y'all can compete with any like any given night, like
y'all can win a series of beat a team four games,
just finding the right pieces, and said a lot of
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young guys don't understand, which I like so much. Derek Lively,
is that you don't have to do what Jalen Green
does to show your value. What I'm saying, Kaminga, It's like, yo, people,
you don't have to do all those things.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
People know how valuable you are.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
You can still do the other things since baby steps,
work your way in, work your way up. But just
because you're not you don't have to do that, and
you can still make a lot of money because people
can see that in you before you have to show it.
They can see you can grow into that and then
eventually let you get there. You just how to kind
of wait, wait your turn, wait your time. But you
can still be valued by doing what you're you're good
at first and then kind of opening, you know, get
(38:54):
stepping outside the box and then you know, adding some
more things to the bag. But yeah, the value is
not on you know, let me let me show what
I can do and show the world or the fans.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
You don't have to do that, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
It's only a couple of guys they're gonna let do that.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's like two percent if that one percent of guys
in the league is gonna do that, and you can
get there at some point. You'll get there, but ultimately
just win. Do what you're supposed to do to feed
your him. You'll show your value by doing that, you'll
keep getting paid and getting years in the league, and
then you get to that level. But that's why I
like Derrick Lovy so much. A lot of guys on Dallas,
and I think they have a really good shot because
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guys know their roles very well and know it early,
and they're not tripping about having to be that guy
yet that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, we got a young guy like that also, where
like I think he actually made it very tough on
our coaches this year because when he plays, he plays
well Moses. Moses plays like that.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I like this game.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm like, sure, well compete, defend, you know, but like,
as you know, it's a numbers game, and sometimes the
numbers don't fall your way. But like you keep going
back to this dude because you know every time he produced,
the numbers just don't always fall your way. And that's
like a young guy who like even with Moses, right, Like,
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you're at that positioning in the young guy's careers where
like you have to make those decisions and I think
making those decisions help because it's like, you know what
Moses is our guy in the lineup. And when you
start solidifying that stuff, it really helps to growth. And
so you know Moses, I love Moses. That's my young show.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
But nah, man, that's a huge back.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
And you're encouraging young players because you know young rookies
are just that's the big confidence is of making breaking
them in the league. And you have the right coaching
staff behind you, the right group behind you, right vets.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
I think he's in a good spot, man. So it's traits.
I think.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I think my younger brother played with Trace at Iu.
So you haven't seen any play for a while, but
they're in a good spot man, because you said, I
see a lot of young guys, man, and they have
the potential to be so great.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
They're just in the wrong organization with no.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Vets and the organization it's always not the play.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
So and I don't want to point out any organizational players,
but it's like it is a lot of talent here.
He's just not getting groomed the right way. He's not
having the right vets around him. He just don't understand
how to be a pro yet first and then be
a basketball player and then growing to being a star
it's it's a process, man, that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Before we get out of here. Man, I appreciate you
coming on the show. Course like who you got.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Before the series, I predicted Dallas and six. I'm still
gonna stick with that. If they don't. If they don't
get him in six and it goes to seven, it's
gonna be tough for them to beat Boston at home.
I just said, Boston to me has been They're really good.
They're not as battle tested as they should be. They
they say they live and die by the three. Where
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zengis played well to night, I.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Don't know how. I don't know if he can keep
that up. Him being healthy I was.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
I wasn't sure in his health, and that was gonna
be a big part of how well they were going
to succeed. If he can stay healthy and keep doing
what he's doing, they have a really good shot.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
But if not, I just don't see.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Said al Horford had a really good game, Houser had
a good game, Kle didn't have a great game. Luca
settled in late and they cut it to eight, and
that showed me that's the real part of the game
where I'm like, all right, this is what the game
is more like gonna be like instead of the twenty
thirty point game. And if it's close, I'm trusting more
in Dallas's closers than Boston's closers. So I have Dallas
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and six, But I think this is gonna be a
good one, and said it's a toss up. We just
don't know how the emotions of Kyle being in Boston.
Bro said two, We're gonna see how he bounces back.
I expect and hope that he does, but you just
never know when you're that's the scenario.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I hope that for him.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I saw some stat where it's like he's zero and
ten and and games in Boston since either he's stumped
on Lucky or since he left Boston or something like that,
and that now makes four eleven. So I just want
to see him get the monkey off his back, because
you guys know, all it takes is one one.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
One shot on win on basket.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You're like, yeah, I can be good. So I definitely
want to see Kay get the monkey off his back.
Rooting for him. But I appreciate you coming on the show, brother,
of course, I appreciate you having me absolutely. Thank you
to everybody for watching the show. We'll be back next Sunday.
Game two. Do not miss Champs only. There's the only
(43:18):
room for Champions, so make sure you tune in, hit
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Speaker 6 (43:23):
You also cat catch your boy.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I'm doing some stuff with Odyssey inside the green room
with Danny Green, doing some stuff with ESPN two.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
I'm gonna be on ESPN tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
I don't think I'm the NBA today, but you know
I'm a free I'm a freelance guy, so I've been
able to do stuff with Turner, ESPN, Yahoo has been cool.
Man to see which networks if you get a chance
to dabble in different ones, you see which one more
fits you. But I'm enjoying the process, man. But your
inside the green room, Danny Green. You catch me covering
some of the final stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
By the way, I just want you to know also
inside the green room, I so fired and I was
so genial with just as Raymond Green show.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I didn't come up with the name bro. I can't
take credit for it. The homie he was. We grew
up together. We went to high school. Well not mutual friends,
but I've known him since high school and he threw
the podcast at me. And this is actually year six.
I've been doing it for six years, and I was
in San Antonio. I know, if you know much about
San Antonio, they don't care for media or they didn't
want to do nothing. So I was very skeptical about
doing this podcast. I was like, bro, I don't know
(44:21):
if they're gonna let me do this shit, honestly, and
I said I was gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
And we got traded in Toronto and then I had
the news.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
They thought I had the inside school on KWI blew up,
you know what I'm saying. We got a little studio
in Toronto and from there it went off.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
So it's easy. In Toronto.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
They did a great job organization to let me feel
comfortable it. But the homie came up with the name.
I didn't really wasn't sure if I was gonna do it.
I'm glad I did. I got the reps. It's allowed
me to like get behind it, you know, build some
type of resume on screen and learn ins and outs
of media. But yeah, ultimately it's a year six and
I said, the name is dope, but I have to
get credit somebody, my guy, Harrison Sanford, who came up
with the name, and then I'm Jad Osman, my producer.
(44:56):
He was my producer at the time, so they came
up with it. But it is it's catch. Its a
good one. It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
No, that's fire. I would love to come on your
show too, bro, if you have.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Bro, come on now, you know what talk. Yes, I
appreciate I get you on, gotta get you. I appreciate you, brother.
Enjoy the finals, man, I'm sure you'll be out probably
how you fly out the boss some of these days, Dallas,
I know you could be covering on the big screen
on the panel.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Enjoy you. You're done right, I'll be right, mind.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
I mean, I was looking forward to you and Chuck
and shack Man. Can't you go out of this? It's
funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Man.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
I got to bring that show back, and they can't
lose it.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
They can't lose the show. The show is everything.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
It's very vital to the game of the sport and
the NBA, so we need that back.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Absolutely. That's a wrap. Appreciate y'all. Peace,
The volume.
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Speaker 1 (01:24):
What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
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you know we here got some really special live episodes
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And now it's time to welcome our first guests of
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here if you're a champion. This guy happens to be
a three time champion, as he just said before we
got on here. Warriors fans are not happy that he's
(03:55):
the first guest on Champs. Only he beat us in
the champ Being ship, and I am honored to welcome
none the other three time champion, Danny Green.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Welcome to the show, my brother.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you having men. I'm
glad that there's some type of love on that side
of the coast.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Well, I guess in the Bay Area.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
And I was asked earlier today, I was doing a
radio hit, like there's any organization that hates you, and
I couldn't think of one until you tweet. They tweeted
out that I was on your show, and I'm like, damn,
I know there's only one organization bro that The fans
are like, nah, they ain't messing with it. So but
you know, I understand, you know, I get it. Five
years ago, I was hoping some of them forgot about
(04:36):
it or let it go. I'm not a dirty place.
I can't imagine how it is being the villain every night,
in every arena, So a lot of flowers. Kudos to you, brother,
because I just have one organization. That's because I was
thinking about teams where I've left and they might have
booed me, and actually they all received me pretty well.
But the only one that that does not like me
that much at all is Golden State fans. But you know,
(04:58):
I still a lot of love to the fans everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So love brother, And you know, for us there's no
love loss. Obviously, we know you're not a dirty player.
Plays happen, bro, when you're competing on an NBA finals level,
on a championship level, I get it, Like two points
changes everything. And by the way, you know unfortunate. You
(05:23):
know that Clay got hurt, like love Clay to death,
and like none of us are ever trying to hurt anybody.
It's very unfortunate. But like basketball is also very much
so a game of interest, just like football. And if
you come up with that block, what it does for
y'all from a momentum standpoint in a game where we
(05:44):
really had the momentum, What that does for y'all from
a momentum standpoint, if you get that block, it changes
everything for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I mean you know how you know how critical everything
matters man, from moose balls to down the floor block
still and today's game and we're going to get to that.
There's a lot of guys, a lot of plays that
stuck out to me that started the momentum for Boston.
And it wasn't necessarily the stars, you know, you know,
I'm watching the others and I'm sure you are too,
but I really think Al Horford kind of set the
(06:14):
tone for them tonight, and he's the one that came
out first basket dunk, hit three ball, and then I
think everybody kind of follows Suit Howser another guy hitting
three ball. Timely you get up that Bixi Dallas found something.
They cut it to eight, but those guys set the tone.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Then.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Of course Porzingis was just unbelievable. Night's first game back
in weeks, a couple of months so. But it was
an interesting game to watch, and I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
A fun series. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was a very fun serious. I think it's going
to be a very fun serious. It's very fun game
to watch. I one thing that I want to keep
my eye on is Porzingis, And the reason I want
to keep my eyes on Porzingius is like that first
game back, like you riding a high e bultions through
the roof, you feeling good, like adrenaline crazy. After that,
(07:03):
when you no longer can ride off the emotions and
you got to ride off of the work that I
put in. Not saying he hasn't put the work in,
but your work has been limited reason reason you've been out,
you know, and so when you then got to rely
back on that and not necessarily the juice of like
I'm back out here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I want to see how he responds. You know how
that comes.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
About, you know, yeah, because that's gonna be like he
was huge for them tonight.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I know, I know you got a Boston fan on
staff there. They played well tonight. Hell of a win
for him, but Dallas found some things. I wouldn't be
too confident after watching Tians get I didn't have a
great game, and I don't think the energy said Zink
is gonna be able to sustain that. Like you said,
everybody has their group chets, everybody's playing GM, everybody's watching
and criticize, and they're like yore Porzingis had a hell
(07:56):
of a game.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But there's no way he can sustain that. There's no
way you can keep that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Energy yet three in the first quarter, and that's where
I was watching more so is what he's gonna do
with defenseven and.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
He stopped the lob for Dallas. You know, that was
a key thing for Dallas.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And you know Kai and Luca weren't able to get
to the room as easy or you know, find Lively
and Gaffer for lobs. That's a big change. But I
think Dallas is gonna They're gonna find something. Jk is
gonna find something. They they still they switched, They didn't
trap as much. I didn't see many of that. Both
teams switched and they're gonna take advantage of that. Luca
took him a quarter to settle in, but once he
settled in, he's he's found, so he knows where he's
(08:30):
at now. Kyle just has to settle once that happens.
So we're gonna have a series. Man, It's gonna be
a real series.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I agree with that, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Funny enough, I I thought in my prediction, I said
that Dallas will lose this game. And the reason I
thought that they would lose this game was because the Celtics,
like and I played against this team this year.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There their lanth and you've played against them through the years.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That the lane like Jason Tatum is sixteen, Jay Brown
at six eight, Drew Is six ' five, Derek White
six ' five, Al har for sixteen sixty eleven. When
you have that much length on the floor, there's no gaps, right,
and they switched, they load up right when you Portzinga
(09:16):
is seven feet even Sam Hopkson come off the bench
six ' nine. Like the only guy that they play
that's under six five it's Peyton Prescher and he don't
play much. When you have that type of length and
you can speak to it like that was kind of
our team for all those years. That was your team
(09:39):
in Toronto. You Kawhi only guy that played though smaller
than that, Fred and Fred and Differenty'll play way bigger
than his size, right, Like, but you got Pascal, you
got you, you got Bouchet, like.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Kwan marcasol normal, we had o g didn't even play.
We had og on that roster, but we had a
we had a really good defensive squad and we figured
it out. But like you said that that that defensively,
they have a lot of length. The only thing with
Boston I said, I'm not confident because you know, they
live and die by the three.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
They came out, they came out.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Very hot, and they're always gonna have a game or
two where it's gonna be it's gonna be dry, you
know what I'm saying, They're gonna be cold. So when
that happens, we're gonna see if that defensive Porzingis can
continue to protect the rim and if they can stay
in a game. But ultimately they're gonna drop a game
or two just because they they're not gonna shoot well.
And then if Dallas can steal a game or two
(10:39):
a game or so just because they you know, play
well and they limit them.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
This is gonna be a six to seven game series.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
That's what we've been looking for for a while, because
you know, Finals hasn't been Actually no, I'm tripping. Finals
have been pretty good since she won six games before
that it went to you know, six.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Games, so it's been pretty good. It's a good matchup
for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So tell me this.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So coming into this game as a coach, when you
get to this level and you know it, you gotta
pick something that's gonna beat you, and it is very
evident what Boston said today is gonna beat us, meaning Luca,
we not helping on your drives.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We forced you to dry and were not helping take
the layup.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You're gonna have to score seventy or sixty sixties. So
go ahead, try to beat us by yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
One assists, Luca has that's unheard, Luca god won assist.
Do you think that game plan from Dallas, I mean,
excuse me, from Boston where they can where they kept
those other guys out tonight and gave up what they
gave up to Luca, do you think that continues to
work or what would your adjustment be if you're the
Dallas Mavericks on how to get the other guys involved.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know, we were talking before you got on.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You were saying how blowouts are never a good thing
and never advantage for the team that won, because a
lot of times you just don't make the adjustments. You're like, oh, worked,
but you should have a backup because obviously the team
that lost is gonna make plenty of adjustments, and you
need to make sure you have adjustments for their adjustments.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
I don't think it's gonna work. It worked early.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Jaylen Brown played great defense early first first half, fucking
Luca a couple of times, making a physical al Horford
even contested to block the shot or two. Like, that's
not gonna be sustainable for the seven game series. Al
Horford and those guys switching on to Kai and Luca
is not gonna work.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I think they're gonna have to change up.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Once Luca gets going early, They're gonna probably try to
trap himself if Kai gets in the rhythm.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Ky just had a very off night, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Like, when you have to both those threats going, the
other guys are just gonna open up. You can't just
stay home and let those guys kill because they will
kill you and they.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Can win games.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
It reminds me of to bring not to bring back
bad memories for you guys, but when Bron and Kai,
you know, you don't see that often when guys two guys.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Can beat you.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
In fact, they did it, and then these two guys
have the talent enough to beat you with just those guys.
So ultimately, I think Boston isn't to have an adjustment.
They're not probably gonna make it right now or right away.
It might take a loss to figure that out, but
you don't want to take a loss going back to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I'm saying you want to be one one going into Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Absolutely, No, I agree. One, Like, you can tell Kyle
was having an off game. Ky dribble the ball off
his shoot?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, Ky don't lose the balls.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, Like so you could tell it was off.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I think for him too, Like for him, I
think also he has to make the emotional adjustment, right,
Like you go back in this place, NBA Finals where
they were expecting you to bring them to NBA Finals.
Now you going back there, Like what's that like emotionally
going back to a place where you've played and and
like this is the NBA Finals, so this isn't even
(13:52):
different thing. Like I think he has to adjust emotionally
as well.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's and this is why I was like, it depends
on what And we look at Kayle like, you know,
Kay is great, And I'm like, even though Kay is
Kay is one of the strongest mentally mental, you know,
tougher guys in the league. No matter who you are,
going back to a place you played before, it is
not easy emotions. Just you just never know how it's
gonna turn out. And you've never experiencedfore and I hope
you never have to. But if you leave a place
(14:19):
and you've been there for a long time and you
go back and try to play that even if they
don't bow you. Because we went back when I was
with Kawhi and Toronto, they bowed the hell out of Kawhi.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
They cheered for me. They still cheer for me, which
was which was cool.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
But I don't think I've ever had a I haven't
had a good game in San Antonio since I left there.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
You know, it's just not easy to do. And it's
just like adrenaline.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It might take it the wrong we might shoot too much,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you just never know
how the emotions are gonna make you play it make
maybe you play really well. I feel like there's no
in between. You're gonna play really good or shitty, it's
gonna be a really bad game. So I've had some
good games against San Antonio at my home teams arena,
but just not in San Antonio. And it's just one
of those places it's just hard to settle in. It's
(15:01):
hard to feel comfortable or you feel too comfortable.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
It's like them.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I don't know why shots aren't dropping, but I knew
it was gonna take him a game or a quarter
at least. I have to like let those emotions kind
of still settle. Even though it's been removed, still didn't
leave in a great way. And I can't imagine playing
your former team on this stage of how hot you
know you want to do, You want to do well
so badly that it you know it may counter right,
like be kind of productive, may affect you differently. So
(15:25):
either way, it's a I think Ky's gonna settle in.
He'll be fine, but it's just not an easy place
or easy situation to be in.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And I said, I hope you never get have to
experience it, because it's it can get ugly for you
and you'd be like, damn, you be thinking about it
all night, all day, all year. And then said, CON's
mentally tough. He'll bounce back, but you just never know.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I got my fingers crossed. I hope never.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know. It just dawned on me and thinking about
you fucking beat me in the NBA five, I mean
in the NCAA championship too.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I just thought about that.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
We've been we go back, We go back, Bro, we
go back in some time. We go back some time.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Since college, Yes, I've been fortunate enough to have some
really good teams and some good teammates that I had, Tyler,
I had, Tye had Wayne, you know what I'm saying.
And then so when I was in San Antonio, y'all
were like, said, of course, you know, Steve came from there,
Mike Brown came from there. So y'all were like a
little brother. And eventually it's only be a matter of
time before y'all start kicking ass. And we knew it,
and we got old, we got older, and then you know, yeah,
(16:22):
y'all playing five out, y'all changed the whole league to
small ball, and it was like, Damn, I don't think
we can I don't think we played Timmy in the series.
Don't think we could play Timmy the series. We had
to sit them, and yeah, we had a chance. We
had a shot that y'all got kd We had Marcus
and why and then why when he had the ankle
go down, it was over for that.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Yeah, we're going back from for some time.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Now, Bro, fifteen years now, fifteen sixteen years we've been competing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Do you do you still wish to play right now?
Or like, do you think this is it for you?
You just by the way you do it? In credit,
I enjoyed watching you on TV.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Bro. I appreciate you job and.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like, you know, like you don't need that from me,
but I just enjoy watch I fucking hate watching a
lot of people on TV, but I really enjoy watching
you on TV.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
As much as I'm not a fan of dupe guys,
there's certain guys that are good on TV, and JJ
was one of them because he backs us, you know
what I'm saying. And I always like make sure that
we you know, we can criticize guys, but not tear
him down. And regardless of that, you know, I want
to if I can criticize it. I want to be
able to do that and be in that space. And
I still have a lot to learn. I'm learning from
everybody when I do it, even you.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
You know what I'm saying. You handle yourself very.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Well, bro, And for me, it's like I know, I
got to slow down. I talk too slow, I talk
too fast. I got to slow down. I got to
be louder, try to make some good points, like you're
really good at that, grabbing the viewers attention, making some
good points, you know what I'm saying, dropping some bars,
dropping some gems. People like oh Joe Dre got some
bars with them, know what I'm saying. So I'm learning
from everybody. So it's it's been great for me. It's
(17:51):
a new challenge. People don't understand how different it is
and it can be fun, but also how it's not easy.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
You know, it's not easy to do with people are
doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So much respect to all those guys that do it
at a high level and grab people's attention and do
and said do as a profession. So now for me, man,
I'm still trying to hoop. Bro just unfortunate. This year
I was with Philly training Camp. I thought I had
a really good training camp and to me, it showed
me that like I could still hoop.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It was like.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
The training camp was like, yeah, I still belong here,
I still can hoop. I still play. But James wanted out.
Trade happened. They brought in more guys and they sent
out and my contract wasn't guaranteed. You know, me and
Daryl had a situation whatever, So they were talking about
Nick Nurse wanted to bring me back. It just didn't happen.
But I feel like I have another, you know, a
few years left, a couple of years left to hoop,
(18:39):
you know, because I can do TV anymore. We can
do that. We're forty fifty years old, and I thought
about it. Now something comes along where it's like, all right,
they give me a deal or a certain type of network.
It's like we want you and they like to hang
it up. It's going to take some more. But like
I'm not married to the NBA. If I really want
to play valleto the conversation with the wife but just
(18:59):
had a little one. If she wants to play and
she's okay with travel because going somewhere else, to another country,
I don't know. But it's like, yeah, we only got
two more years, maybe three more years left to this
of hooping, and might.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
As will make the most of it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
If you want to live in a nice country, it
has to make sense though, if I go overseas, it
has to be a really nice country where you're living well.
But if not give another shot here, play, see what happens.
But you know, ultimately transitioning man, just just adapting tojustin
and learning the media game and you know, making sure
that I have something because I'm not going to be
one of those type of guys work. I mean, we
(19:31):
all we all want to save to where we don't
have to work. But I just can't see myself sitting
at home and not doing a damn thing, saying, I
gotta be doing something, bro. Got to find a purpose
other than you know what I'm saying with the kids
and coaching them, of course, but I can't just be
at home and being a house dad or a house husband.
But yeah, ultimately I still want to play. Hopefully somebody
will give me another opportunity, another shot. But if they
(19:53):
were to see me playing and see me work out,
they'd be like, you know what, he's still he can
still hoop, he can still move, and I think I
could help a team, but not I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Healthy, bro, I think I'm two years out now.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I was pretty I felt really healthy this past year
to it was a training camp of Philly went really good. Okay,
but yeah, just the luck of the I mean, cars
didn't play out that way. You know how teams with
the taxes, the cap, you know, teams are scared. People
don't want to go into the bratle you know, the
second second apron whatever.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah, just a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
The politics come into play, so you know just how
it plays out sometimes.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, no doubt, I respect that. Man.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
A lot of people don't understand, like they're like, oh, you,
your contract would be this, Like I've been in the
league this amount of years, so my number looks different
than the guy if you bring in in their second year,
that number looks totally different than what it does for
the cap.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
People don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
They're like, oh, man, like he can't hoop number, Like, no,
he can't hoop for sure, Like and they don't understand
the numbers, like how it works and the taxes and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Just I pray that you don't well you can't fight
getting old, but just don't ever get hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
When you get hurt in your old the league just.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
They forget about you or they just like, ah, you know,
your time is up. They ain't kind of really messing
with it. They'd rather find a younger guy groom them.
And they said it's cheaper so they cheaper than younger.
But yeah, man, I hope you don't have to. But
I feel like for everybody it's it's always like a
culture shock, trying to figure it out, trying to navigate me.
And you were kind of, you know, tapping into other things.
But most guys don't know what to do after. That's
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a fact and a lot of things people were taking
your your statement out of context. I feel like when
you're talking about, you know, the league doesn't really set
us up to be wealthy after you know, you talk
about the fines and things like that. I think it's
more so like that type of situation, but also the
lifestyle doesn't set you up for you know what I'm saying.
I think that's more of the point that people are missing.
It's like you're making a lot of money, but when
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you make a lot of money, ultimately your bills are
just can become more Naturally, you make five million dollars
a year, you're going to have five hundred thousand dollars bills,
maybe a million. If you make ten million dollars, it's
gonna be a million or two million. You make twenty
you probably have like two or three million dollar bills. Now,
you may save up forty fifty when you're done. But
if you don't work and you got three million dollar
bills per year, your bills are three million dollars per year.
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You got ten twenty years to make it last. As
about it, you still got lived to eighty. You know
what I'm saying. But everybody else you don't realize. You
have to get a job to at least cover the bills.
Get another job where at least covers two three million.
You can let that save if you want generational wealth
for your kids to have it. You know, you find
a job to cover the bills. But a lot of
guys don't prepare for that, so they don't have a
job when they're done to cover the bills. Ultimately, they're
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not broke, but it's only a matter of time before
that money runs out in about ten years.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And you know, you don't hit you until you're done playing.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
You like, you realize how expensive shit is, Like, Damn,
that wasn't expensive when I was playing, But when I'm
done playing, the checks ain't coming. Damn Fuck that costs
that much. When you're trying to budget, it's a different thing, man.
So I'm glad I'm going through it. I'm glad I'm
learning it as I'm then, I was prepared for a
vets that taught me like, yo, try to tap into
this and have other things to fall back on. And
I have a lot of opportunities. People called like seeing
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if I wanted to do coaching interviews and I'm like, yeah,
I'm not ready yet do media. So yeah, I've been
blessed man to be around some great people and some
good organizations that give me opportunities for after basketball as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No doubt, man, that's great to hear switching gears a
little bit as a player who's, like you said, you know,
want to do it, still can do it, probably will
still continue to do it, but it's closer to the
end than you are the beginning as I am, and
and understanding as a former player, the opportunities that we have.
(23:25):
What was your thoughts on the Lakers the rumors that
the Lakers zeroing in on JJ Reddick, former player, you know,
just like more former players getting these these coaching jobs
and being in and running for these jobs. What was
your thoughts on Jj? You mentioned them being you know
with that report coming.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Out, Yeah, I mean I like JJ. I think we
all respect to what he does for us in the media.
You know what I'm saying, He does a great job.
I think he has a great basketball mind.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You know the reports are going around now.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Dan Hurley is another candidate, But I think JJ does
deserve a coaching job. I don't know if I would
like that one for him. You know, the Lakers' job
is a tough one.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Man.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
People think you know your tough mental player, kid, coach, whatever.
You're like, you know I could do anything. I've been
through the ring. You know I can handle it. I'll
be fine. So you get in there. That ring is
a different type of ring. And I've seen certain guys,
even the most tough. It's got Russell Westbrook. There's not
a guy that I know in this league that is
tough mentally than him.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
That carries that confidence chip on his shoulder night and
night out. Don't give a damn with who says anything.
And he went to LA and he just looked like
a different person. And I'm like, damn, those lights are different,
that organization, those fans are different. It can change you,
It can kind of break some people, and it can
make a break your career and that's your first coaching
job for Jjm's like, I don't know if that's the
first one I want to get into, you know what
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I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
But I think it's I think it's a good high.
I think it's dope.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Ibouls see some conflicts with JJ and Bron having the podcast.
You know, they're not sure if you don't get the
respect in the locker room. If Bron respects him, everybody
else should. I think everybody else respects you. Even as
a player. He was a really good player. He's a
great player, and he's so good at what he does
media wise, he's you know, people kind of forgetting how
good he was as a player. That's how good he
is as a media hit. But yeah, I think it's
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a good I think he's a good higher anywhere. But
I just for JJ. I think it's gonna be tough,
and if i'm him, I don't know if I want
that to be my first one. I don't know what
your thoughts on it, if you have any other better candidates,
and whose assistant coaches over there? Y'all have some good
assistants over there, Like is this somebody you think would
fit better.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And I think JJ would do a great job.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And I think you know, with the report that him
and Brian have, Like, at the end of the day,
no coach in the NBA is successful without.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
The back end of their best player.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like if their best player on the back there, that
coach ain't going to be successful. So I think with
their report that they have, I'd imagine that Brian, you
do a podcast with this man, I'd imagine you respect them,
you respect this basketball mind, you respect all those things.
So to your point, if you know, you know, if
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that's the case, then I think that ultimately helps where
I think the business of the NBA happens. It's like
when you see people don't understand the dynamic of having
multiple stars, right yeah, And the dynamic of having multiple
stars can be different. So there could be a dynamic
where JJ, like Bron loves JJ and.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Wants him as the coach.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Anthony Davis is a totally different start that may want
something else. I don't notice to be facts. I'm just
saying how the dynamics could work. Because for me, when
I see Dan Hurley all of a sudden come out
of nowhere like he's their guy, their reporting, they're flying
them out to LA like just a day ago they
were zeroing in on JJ.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Raight.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Now, yes, these are reports, but this is Sham's reporting,
Like this ain't Fox News or like, yeah, this is
Sham's reporting. And so you know when he reports, when
Woldes reports and holds water, that's a different thing like that,
like they know what and so for that to come
out one day and then the next day, it's like
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damn Hurley to me, like how does that change that fast?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And I just sit back and I'm like, WHOA, Maybe
this happened because I do understand dynamic of stars in
the NBA for sure.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
It's interesting also because I feel like we came in
at a similar time. Early on, social media wasn't as
big when we first got into the league.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
It grew, and.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Certain things that were reported did not affect how people coached,
how people traded, gms looked at things. You can see
now how the media is huge and it can get
into locker rooms, it can get into organizations. I think
when they put out the JJ thing, they didn't like
the responses that they got and people were like, what
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the hell is this serious? I thought this was a
joke or you know who's gonna brought Like they probably
saw a lot of negative heat and was like, are
you not vetting anybody else? Is in no better candidates?
I like James Barrego, I had him in San Antonio,
JB good people's everybody else that is really good has
a job already or has been picked up, so it's
not a lot of options. I think this was, I
want to say, like a cover up, but it was
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something like, all right, we gotta do we gotta do
some other research and see other options. Now does Dan
take the job?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I don't. I don't think he does.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
I don't think it makes sense for Lea Yukon, especially
if he can get extended there for the same amount
of money and stay in Connecticut, because it's a tough situation.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
But you know, who knows.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I thought that, you know, maybe Kentucky would have threw
some money at him when you know Cale left for Arkansas.
But yeah, he's got to pick up. Literally, he's in
a really good situation and he can do whatever he
wants to do. I don't know if he would take
the Lakers job, but I think this is just them
kind of like seeing the response they got from the
media and like, all right, we gotta kind of see
you see what else is out there and see what
the see what the response is from Like Dan Hurley,
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what do they think of that? I'm people like, Oh,
this is a probably really good candidate because JJ, even
though he's really great, he's never coached before, you know
what I'm saying, Like, it's like we've kind of forget
that you would think that yet because of how smart
he is and how he knows the game, how he
talks in the media.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
It's like, Yo, he's really good. He's really never coached before.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
And fact for him, I wouldn't want that that job
for him, having to manage that locker room with egos
and that nature. I have a couple of questions for you,
like what do you think outside of coaching, what pieces
do you think they need the Lakers, Yeah, to like
make because I thought they had great foundation. I thought
it worked. Obviously, they match up with Denver, which is
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not the best matchup for them, but I feel like
any of the series they could win or beat teams.
But obviously they're missing some pieces. So you keep a
D and Brown. What moves they talk about Trey Young
they talk about the John say, Murray, what do you
think they should do? Or make put your GM out
on what do you if you're the Lakers, what do
you do? Coaching wise and players wise?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I think any young guard they can get would be
like what helped that team because for them, if you
got like a Trey Young or de Johntay Murray with
the back end of Bron and eighty, like, that's a
totally different thing. And that young guard is in point
guard in Bron's point guard school because Bron is a
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point guard point guard. He's been a point guard his
whole life, right, So not only with their skill, you know,
and you know whoever that young guard can be. It
don't have to be a Dejohntey or Trey that's just
the names you mentioned. But like any young guard, you
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have talent, you have skill, your dynamic in the way
that these young guards are in the NBA and you
get to go to bron point guard school and you
get to play with one of the best bigs in
the NBA and Anthony Davis, like you and I both know,
for a long time, teams were built in the NBA
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on having a great guard and a great big and
you feel everything else out in between. Then it starts
changing with like us, but you're starting to see that
shift back again, like that is starting to shift back
to like.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
It's just a different big now. It's like a check
type of big now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Absolutely, And so with that shift kind of happening, like
so now you say you got a great big and
Anthony Davis, and you get you got like a guard
young guard that can go to Lebron James point guard school.
Oh and by the way, you still got Lebron James
who can get great at any moment. Don't don't gotta
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beat there all the time. He's in your twenty seven like,
but can get be great in the blink.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Of an eye in any moment.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You need in between that, Like, I think that's I
think that's that's dangerous and none of us will want
to see that, you know. So I think, you know,
I think they you know, it's going to be interesting
to see what they do.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But if I'm not mistaken, little Rule, they.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Got, they got pieces, they got stuff they can do. Ultimately,
I think they need to start preparing for the future.
And that's if Anthony Davis stays there. They do need
somebody to replace Bron instead of a guard that's a
young guard that can kind of do some of the
similar things or give you that type of dynamic of
the you know, the one two punch.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Man, it's a tough job.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I'm glad I don't have it being that GM, but
I also have incredible job though he's been doing this
thing man, big shout out to him. But I do
have one other question for me to take off your podcast.
I love, but for you guys, man, I think you
guys are still a contender. You keep the group that
y'all have together. What is it you think that y'all
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were missing this year? Obviously you had some ups and downs,
you being in now some injuries. What do you what
changes do you think you might need to make or
what you think you need to do for y'all to
get back to where y'all work for next year.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Like I think for us, like it's going to be
very important for us to define who it is that
we're gonna be Like, like we change him, bro, Like
like you said, we get older, Like we are not
the same basketball team that we were in twenty nineteen
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or even in twenty twenty two for that matter, Like, yeah,
it changes, you know what I'm saying, And I think,
you know, we're adjusting to that change, which is which
is great. Like Steve, I think Steve is doing an
incredible job of where he's becoming more open to like
Jonathan Kaminga having the ball more like Kaminga being in
the pick and roll and like running some ISOs for Kaminga,
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whereas you know, it takes some time to adjust to
that when you've had the level of success that we've
had doing what we've done, like, it takes some time
to adjust to that. And it also takes you know,
everybody want to come in and do things right away.
And I think what Kaminga end up learning. And I
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commend him. I commend the young fella because he's stuck
with it. Is you come in and you're looking at
like a Jalen Green or one of those guys that's
in Houston or you know, in one of those places
that you know they got in, they got the ball right.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Away and do what the hell they wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It right and you look at that and you like, man,
I want to you know, I want to show what
I can do and you don't realize. And like I said,
this is this is no knock on Jonathan Minga. That's
my young fellow. I love him to death. And again
I'm crediting him. You don't realize that. A. When I'm
in a great situation, respect is earned. B. They've done
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things a certain way, and it saw me to show
them that doing this work my way where I can
be successful, will work for them and they should do that.
And you know, when I watched the young fella's growth
is for a little while, it was up and down
because I don't think he understood that. And by the way,
how do you understand that without going through it? And
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then I think it clicked for him. Let me do
the things that I need to do to get on
the court. Once I'm on the court, I can then
do a little more of what I know I'm capable
of doing. Oh and by the way, when I do that, now,
all of a sudden, Steve Kirk trust me. And I
scored twenty points in seventeen eighteen straight games in a
row because he trusts me.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Oh, look how that works.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And so I think you know that has helped like
young guys, you know, we got the young guys coming along.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And VP and Trace.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Like I think as the year went on, you started
to see, like, man, Trace is a real live threat.
You know, we went through the early part of the
year without necessarily having a live threat, you know what
I'm saying. And me and lou Me and Lune got
a certain chemistry that's great.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I love playing with Kavan Looney man, you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Know, but like with the lead changing and getting bigger,
we ain't that athletic together. You started to see, all right,
you know, they start like separating me and Lune, like,
all right, I'm in the lineup when I'm out, los
in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You know what I'm saying, loos in when.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I'm out the game, looning Because you just start to
see the league's changing, and so then all of a sudden,
incorporate that young live threat, and that changes our offense,
it changes our defense, and things start to change it.
So I think for us it is just important for
us to shore up. I always tell people, and you
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know it, Championships are one six through ten, yeah, and
championships are not one one through five, And so it's
just on us to shore up and make the decisions
of what does our six to ten look like? You know,
what does our one to five look like? Does that mean, Draymond,
you're out of the start lineup and cominga's in? Although
(36:39):
I think comingas are better three than necessarily a four. Right,
But like, these are the decisions that we have to make.
And you know, like you said, I'm happy I ain't
got the job. It's all those things. But Steve's great
in those situations. I think he'll make them. I think
Mike's doing a great job. It'll be very important for
us to try to get Klay back, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I think, you know that's huge. What what does Clay do?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
If Clay decides not to come back, then what does
that look like for us?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Like are you swinging to try to get another big guy?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Like? What does that look like? And so it'll be weird.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I just think there are some decisions that have to
be made for us, and I trust and know that
our front office and our coach staff will make the
right decisions. But I think we still got a small
window to make something happen.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And you know, I know this.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Organization will honor Steph and myself and Clay I know
they'll honor us in that way of giving us every
chance they can to help us win.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yeah, Dunleavy's done a great job, man, So it's Steve.
I love what they've done. I said, it'd be weird
to see Clay in another uniform. I hope he doesn't leave.
It'll just be weird. And as much as I fucking
hate y'all winning so much and competing agains y'all, it's
just weird to see a group like that special to
have to break up because of you know, some other things.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But yeah, the end.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Of the day, ultimate when we talk about the young
guys that do I hope y'all keep your core. You said,
filling in with some pieces, because if y'all just stay
consistent and healthy, y'all just had some and like y'all
would definitely playoff team. It's just getting back to the
level of contention, and if y'all are healthy, I think
y'all can compete with any like any given night, like
y'all can win a series of beat a team four games,
just finding the right pieces, and said a lot of
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young guys don't understand, which I like so much. Derek Lively,
is that you don't have to do what Jalen Green
does to show your value. What I'm saying, Kaminga, It's like, yo, people,
you don't have to do all those things.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
People know how valuable you are.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
You can still do the other things since baby steps,
work your way in, work your way up. But just
because you're not you don't have to do that, and
you can still make a lot of money because people
can see that in you before you have to show it.
They can see you can grow into that and then
eventually let you get there. You just how to kind
of wait, wait your turn, wait your time. But you
can still be valued by doing what you're you're good
at first and then kind of opening, you know, get
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stepping outside the box and then you know, adding some
more things to the bag. But yeah, the value is
not on you know, let me let me show what
I can do and show the world or the fans.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
You don't have to do that, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
It's only a couple of guys they're gonna let do that.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's like two percent if that one percent of guys
in the league is gonna do that, and you can
get there at some point. You'll get there, but ultimately
just win. Do what you're supposed to do to feed
your him. You'll show your value by doing that, you'll
keep getting paid and getting years in the league, and
then you get to that level. But that's why I
like Derrick Lovy so much. A lot of guys on Dallas,
and I think they have a really good shot because
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guys know their roles very well and know it early,
and they're not tripping about having to be that guy
yet that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, we got a young guy like that also, where
like I think he actually made it very tough on
our coaches this year because when he plays, he plays
well Moses. Moses plays like that.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I like this game.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm like, sure, well compete, defend, you know, but like,
as you know, it's a numbers game, and sometimes the
numbers don't fall your way. But like you keep going
back to this dude because you know every time he produced,
the numbers just don't always fall your way. And that's
like a young guy who like even with Moses, right, Like,
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you're at that positioning in the young guy's careers where
like you have to make those decisions and I think
making those decisions help because it's like, you know what
Moses is our guy in the lineup. And when you
start solidifying that stuff, it really helps to growth. And
so you know Moses, I love Moses. That's my young show.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
But nah, man, that's a huge back.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
And you're encouraging young players because you know young rookies
are just that's the big confidence is of making breaking
them in the league. And you have the right coaching
staff behind you, the right group behind you, right vets.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
I think he's in a good spot, man. So it's traits.
I think.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I think my younger brother played with Trace at Iu.
So you haven't seen any play for a while, but
they're in a good spot man, because you said, I
see a lot of young guys, man, and they have
the potential to be so great.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
They're just in the wrong organization with no.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Vets and the organization it's always not the play.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
So and I don't want to point out any organizational players,
but it's like it is a lot of talent here.
He's just not getting groomed the right way. He's not
having the right vets around him. He just don't understand
how to be a pro yet first and then be
a basketball player and then growing to being a star
it's it's a process, man, that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Before we get out of here. Man, I appreciate you
coming on the show. Course like who you got.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Before the series, I predicted Dallas and six. I'm still
gonna stick with that. If they don't. If they don't
get him in six and it goes to seven, it's
gonna be tough for them to beat Boston at home.
I just said, Boston to me has been They're really good.
They're not as battle tested as they should be. They
they say they live and die by the three. Where
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zengis played well to night, I.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Don't know how. I don't know if he can keep
that up. Him being healthy I was.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
I wasn't sure in his health, and that was gonna
be a big part of how well they were going
to succeed. If he can stay healthy and keep doing
what he's doing, they have a really good shot.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
But if not, I just don't see.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Said al Horford had a really good game, Houser had
a good game, Kle didn't have a great game. Luca
settled in late and they cut it to eight, and
that showed me that's the real part of the game
where I'm like, all right, this is what the game
is more like gonna be like instead of the twenty
thirty point game. And if it's close, I'm trusting more
in Dallas's closers than Boston's closers. So I have Dallas
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and six, But I think this is gonna be a
good one, and said it's a toss up. We just
don't know how the emotions of Kyle being in Boston.
Bro said two, We're gonna see how he bounces back.
I expect and hope that he does, but you just
never know when you're that's the scenario.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
I hope that for him.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I saw some stat where it's like he's zero and
ten and and games in Boston since either he's stumped
on Lucky or since he left Boston or something like that,
and that now makes four eleven. So I just want
to see him get the monkey off his back, because
you guys know, all it takes is one one.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
One shot on win on basket.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You're like, yeah, I can be good. So I definitely
want to see Kay get the monkey off his back.
Rooting for him. But I appreciate you coming on the show, brother,
of course, I appreciate you having me absolutely. Thank you
to everybody for watching the show. We'll be back next Sunday.
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(43:18):
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Speaker 6 (43:23):
You also cat catch your boy.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I'm doing some stuff with Odyssey inside the green room
with Danny Green, doing some stuff with ESPN two.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
I'm gonna be on ESPN tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
I don't think I'm the NBA today, but you know
I'm a free I'm a freelance guy, so I've been
able to do stuff with Turner, ESPN, Yahoo has been cool.
Man to see which networks if you get a chance
to dabble in different ones, you see which one more
fits you. But I'm enjoying the process, man. But your
inside the green room, Danny Green. You catch me covering
some of the final stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
By the way, I just want you to know also
inside the green room, I so fired and I was
so genial with just as Raymond Green show.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
I didn't come up with the name bro. I can't
take credit for it. The homie he was. We grew
up together. We went to high school. Well not mutual friends,
but I've known him since high school and he threw
the podcast at me. And this is actually year six.
I've been doing it for six years, and I was
in San Antonio. I know, if you know much about
San Antonio, they don't care for media or they didn't
want to do nothing. So I was very skeptical about
doing this podcast. I was like, bro, I don't know
(44:21):
if they're gonna let me do this shit, honestly, and
I said I was gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
And we got traded in Toronto and then I had
the news.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
They thought I had the inside school on KWI blew up,
you know what I'm saying. We got a little studio
in Toronto and from there it went off.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
So it's easy. In Toronto.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
They did a great job organization to let me feel
comfortable it. But the homie came up with the name.
I didn't really wasn't sure if I was gonna do it.
I'm glad I did. I got the reps. It's allowed
me to like get behind it, you know, build some
type of resume on screen and learn ins and outs
of media. But yeah, ultimately it's a year six and
I said, the name is dope, but I have to
get credit somebody, my guy, Harrison Sanford, who came up
with the name, and then I'm Jad Osman, my producer.
(44:56):
He was my producer at the time, so they came
up with it. But it is it's catch. Its a
good one. It's a good one.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
No, that's fire. I would love to come on your
show too, bro, if you have.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Bro, come on now, you know what talk. Yes, I
appreciate I get you on, gotta get you. I appreciate you, brother.
Enjoy the finals, man, I'm sure you'll be out probably
how you fly out the boss some of these days, Dallas,
I know you could be covering on the big screen
on the panel.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Enjoy you. You're done right, I'll be right, mind.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
I mean, I was looking forward to you and Chuck
and shack Man. Can't you go out of this? It's
funny as hell.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Man.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
I got to bring that show back, and they can't
lose it.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
They can't lose the show. The show is everything.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
It's very vital to the game of the sport and
the NBA, so we need that back.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Absolutely. That's a wrap. Appreciate y'all. Peace,
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Colin Cowherd
Jason McIntyre
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