January 31, 2025 • 43 mins
Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn from 2 Pros a Cup of Joe fill in for Colin Cowherd and believe this Super Bowl is reminiscent of the ’07 Super Bowl between the Giants and Patriots. The Terry Rozier gambling ring is being blown out of proportion. Plus, James Cook rips the refs and more!
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, No, LeVar Arrington,
what happens to him? I mean, that's what happens here
on this show. Shape up or ship out? All right, Well,
don't have to be tolerated. It's not going to be
tolerated here. So Lvar, you came out.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
About his hypothetical conversation. I mean you didn't have a
chance to weigh in and shows notts of one away.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
In listen you know, uh the clock called and uh
and it was it was time to get out.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But uh, yeah, LeVar Harrington, I thought you were just
upset about his lack of prep bang bang.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I totally agree with the You know, Bill Belichick's not
in Vegas as head coach because him and Tom Brady
couldn't co exist or there was a falling out when
they were together in New England.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, there's also an element of if you hire
a guy like that, there's the potential you have to
fire him too. Like, I'm not sure that maybe you
want to have to go through that. It's like everyone
talks about, oh, I'd love to start a business and
like work with my friends. It's like, yeah, well what
happens though when things don't go right or they're not
doing their job, it's usually why a lot of those
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businesses die because guys don't want to have to fire
some of their buddies and their friends. I mean, hell,
there's coaches, you you know, come into the NFL. They
hire some of their buddies as opposed to maybe the
best coordinators or position coaches, and at times that happens,
they either fall victim to the team not have success,
but they've got to fire some of their best friends
and it fractures relationships. It could be about that. There's
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a lot of reasons as to why, but I just
I can't think that he's thinking in the back of
his mind, well, if I hire Bill Belichick, what's going
to be my reputation or legacy as an owner, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And it's also that Belichick was just he was just
on his podcast talking about how you know, they were
making the point, oh, they should rename the Loamardi Trophy
the Brady Trophy. But his bigger point was, dude, it's
not about coaches, it's about players. Like it would not
surprise me if Tom Brady and having a conversation with Belichick,
just said, listen, dude, we're not ready, like like, you know,
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don't you know you want to go pursue that pursue
that maybe we could kick the tires on this again,
but in that division with no quarterback, Like, what's the plan?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Right, So there's that element of like, if they're willing
to hire a seventy three year old, it's like, well,
a year from now, things could look different. Maybe we're
a little better position, you know, So it's someone to
bring you in or hire you after a year or two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So it just it feels like Mahomes isn't going anywhere where,
justin Herbert's not going anywhere. Bow Nicks, you know, had
a great rookie year. They appear to be, you know,
heading in the right direction. The Raiders just to appear
like they're in a tough spot. Although Pete Carroll does
make him interesting like that, I aim looking forward to
that aspect of it, so.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Aspecially in Vegas. There's just so many things that based
on how he ran his teams in Seattle and even
at Southern cal I could just I could imagine many
of the things that could happen off the field that
would be fun to see. But I do want to
ask this question because we started off the show and
we were surprised, very similar to probably the two thousand
and seven Super Bowl between at the time the undefeated
New England Patriots getting upset by the Giants. But we'll
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get to that in a moment. I'm curious, has Lee
found a place to sleep tonight and gets running out
his condo apartment? Whatever the hell? I wish you could
see him. He looks so worn down. I wish you
could see him. I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I just got to make my way to Bourbon Street
to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Really, you said you made the decision, but it feels
like this decision kayu off guard, which leads me to
think it was the other person who's a part owner
of this condo.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, listen, I've been trying to get this condo off
my hands for a while, but we also had it
listed for long term rental and then so it hadn't
gotten any bites really, but then it just kind of
fell into my lap with a one day notice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Is a month considered long term? It feels like more
a short term run.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It is, but it's it's for an Airbnb or Verbo
or something like that. It's it's considered a long term.
How do you by California law and the and the
R and the rules and regulations of my of my complex,
it has to be a month or longer.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But you own the place, shouldn't they give you more
than like fifteen minutes notice that somebody's moving in in
two days?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I get That's what I expected.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I thought what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Something happened in between when you placed it?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Was there?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Not?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think we had actually controlling. I think we had
lowers controlling. Who's controlling the Airbnb or the vrbo account.
Who's control both of us? Both don't see both of us?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, well her mostly, But I mean I'm okay, I'm
an administrator on it, an administrator on it too, and
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We had lowered the price. By the way, do you
find we get it? You're the HOA president. We understand
you're important, but she clearly is making the decisions in
this case.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well it's Do you find it a little coincidental that
this all took place while she happened to be out
of town?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No's weird?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Huh No, yeah, that's some Uh yeah, my intentnas went
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, a little funny. She had to get out of
town all of a sudden. Hey, what do you know?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You got to be out too, and you have nowhere
to go?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So can you imagine, By the way, when he dropped
her off, she's been she's been thinking and planning this
all along, and she's just walking through the airport ready
to get on her flight, thinking to myself, yep, got him.
Good for a good time. All right, we'll see about that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, she set him to send him to work on
forty minutes sleep. Little does she know, hang a left
and there's a liquor store with a can of smiles
right across the way.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In music, is there a cot we can throw up
in the studio for maybe sleep until Sunday ntill he flies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I think we got some space around here. He'll
have some friends overnight, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Actually we'll get an idea. Well, Colin's moving to Chicago, right,
he made the big announcement. Why can't Lee just stay
at Collins place?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's yeah, listen, Well we'll put a word in with Colin.
See if he's got some space. Yeah, I think you're
under the right path here. Two, he's on the phone
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How fast would music get a call from Coward going?
What did you do? Who is this guy in my house?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Anybody see what happened to my bomb based sapphire I
had on the shelf?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Where did that go? Yeah? At least stop by? I
needed needed a place to stay. But well, just I'm
imagining Lee late night doing god knows what in his underwear,
waltzing around the house because I drinking, drigging Colins or
shoes the bridge run right out of the jug.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Because people people that don't know Lee is always like,
hey man, totally why we call him Lee Bowski because
he's totally cool, totally calm and collected all the time,
always in a good mood, always happy to see everybody,
And he just looked run down today, and it didn't
make any sense because the show is six hours later
than when we normally start, so we're working on prime sleep.
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Then you come to find out he just recently discovered
he was homeless.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And by the way, this is coming off the back
of his car getting broke into by a bunch of
bombs who had a soup kitchen in the back of
I think I saw that bum yesterday.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Dude, he had a brand new nomadic bag on. He's like,
thanks for the bag, money, and it's exactly the same thing.
I was loading my car with a bunch of stuff.
I was like, he's gonna break into my freaking car again.
And then he left a pile of fuke on the sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Did you chase him down?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Lee? Once?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Your back back the wrong one. I think this was
the other one. I think this is the one that
actually got my backpack. Yeah, diversionary tactic. Here, you go,
get in the car and then I'll run the other way,
make them think it's me.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well that was left. That was laptop number two. I
tell you different. Several times I've caught myself realizing at
and what old you find in the back of your car?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, animals. Oh no, I call that a super kitchen.
It's just just revolting.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, look, we'll keep your posters to whether or not
a Lee finds a place to stay. We've got, you know,
a little over fifty minutes to play with here on
the show. Obviously, super Bowl is next week. We are
going to be in New Orleans for that. Everybody excited
for it, everybody fired up. Brady loves New Orleans. I
can't wait to get there and and take in all
the sites of sound of Bourbon Street and Radio Row
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at five in the morning. Also, I am curious when
it comes to this matchup because everyone's talking about, well,
you know, if they go for a three pet I
do wonder what the rooting interest is of these teams
as far as people that maybe are the casual watcher
or people that aren't a fan specifically of the Chiefs
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or the Eagles, because if you remember the Super Bowl
in seven eight, when the Giants were playing the Patriots
and the Patriots were going for that perfect season, that
was an opportunity to see history. We'd never seen it
done before to that level outside of the seventy two Dolphins,
but it would have been you know, all those playoff games,
an extended season based on when the Dolphins did it
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back in the day, and yet I felt like the
rooting interest was for the underdog, the New York Giants
in that spot. Do you get the vibe that that's
the same with the Eagles, because there's a lot about
the Eagles that just rub people the wrong way, you know,
whether it's Sirianni like they just so. I'm not sure
that we're at that point yet, but I'd be curious
to know whether or not people want to see history
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and the three peat or they just want to see
a win or lose.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Because the Chiefs are the on all of a sudden
in the NAF, I think there's a lot of pent
up frustration and anger and probably some some hate, you know,
probably some jealousy of what the Chiefs have been able
to accomplish. I mean, just getting to this point is historic.
But you know, you throw in the coverage with Taylor
Swift and everything else, I think there's a lot of
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people who are just tired of it. You know, the
officiating angle that they always get the benefit of the doubts.
So because of the history behind it, like you can
make the comparison, I think to that Patriots Giants matchup,
the Patriots obviously trying to go for that, you know,
most recent undefeated season with the expanded regular season, But
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I don't know. I mean, I think it's fair to
make the comparison between the two. The tough thing for
me is if you go back to that Giants team,
I think they were like, what a ten and six
team that they had to win a few games down
the stretch in order to make it as a wildcard team,
and then we're on the road the entire way to
get to the super Bowl and then ultimate you know,
beat the New England Patriots. So it just had a
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different feel to it. I mean, this Philly team might
have the better roster on paper if you're comparing the
two teams man for man, and they were the favorite,
they had the home field advantage. You know, we kind
of watched them go through the playoffs and it feels
like they're a much more formidable opponent. And they've got
a candidate for the MVP and Saquon Barkley. They've they've
got arguably the best offensive line, and so I kind
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of look at it and say, all right, we've we've
seen this matchup before. You know, we hadn't seen that
Giants defense and Steve Spagnola taken on you know, then
a Tom Brady led team. But we've saw this a
couple of years ago, where if you go back to
that matchup, Heurtzel was the best player on the field.
I mean, he played phenomenal in that game, and it
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still wasn't enough. And I think obviously the addition of
Saquon Barkley is what, you know, might even tilt the
field a little bit in favor of Philly even though
they're not the betting favorite in this one. Where Steve Spagnola,
I mean, he's been unbelievable. I mean Hall of Fame
just as a defensive coordinator, which I do think he
should get in. I'm not sure that enough people have
talked about that. We seem to just want to talk about, Hey,
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why is he not getting a head coaching job. He's
a Hall of Famer in my opinion, with the impact
that he's had on two separate Giants teams. This Kansas
City Chiefs team, this run that they're on, has a
lot to do with him. But I think this game
plan is so much more difficult than what they were
tasked with the last time they played the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The Chiefs, I guess hate or villain role that they've
taken on. You just knew it was only a matter
of time, just like it was only a matter of
time when the Patriots got it when they were America's
team and they beat the greatest show on turf and
they came out as a team from the Tunnel and
the super Bowl and it was like, oh, it was
the greatest thing in the world. And then they went
on in that run, and then just a few laters
a few years later, everybody wanted him to lose. The
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chief stuff is fascinating because you've got like the Bills
and you know, whether it's Sean McDermott, whether it's Brandon Bean.
You know, people are talking about apparently they've sent video
of the fourth down spot again the Chiefs that went
the other way, They've sent that into the league. You've
got all these people using all these excuses. It's like, well,
there was twelve and a half minutes left in the game,
like so like that's not like that cost you the game.
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It's just all the excuses, all of the well, the
Chiefs get all the calls, and they get everything, and
they get the benefit of the doubt here, and I
just find myself wanting to see them win more because
of all that, just because it pisses off more people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Because no matter what, if this game is played.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Exactly the way the previous Super Bowl was played or
any of these, somebody's gonna find something about the Chiefs
and they're gonna bitch about it, like they are the
team that has elicited all this bitching and moaning on
social media.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And I think it's.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Fascinating, Like, I think it's wonderful. I think it's great
for the league, and it's great to piss off as
many people as possible if you just keep on winning.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That seems to be the status quo for your takes.
I mean, you ar contrarian. You do like the go
against Yeah, but you like to go against the grain,
you know, go against go against the flow a little bit.
That's me. Yeah, that's good and I can understand that. Like,
I think there's an element of appreciation that I have
for Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and what they're doing
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historic in nature, because we haven't seen a team who's
won back to back Super Bowls get to a third
one like this, but even the fact that we're gonna
now going to see them potentially make history in winning it.
And I think more so than that, it's just been
the entirety of the run. Like as great as the
Patriots were, they haven't had a run like this in
what six years, yeah, where they made it to every
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single AFC Championship game. I mean, you're looking at what
is something that we keep saying like, well, we'll probably
never see this again. I don't know they'll ever see
this again. I really don't. And I think it's a
it's a credit obviously to Patch Mahomes, Andy Reid, but
it's also a credit to their front office. I think
the job that they've done constructing a roster of guys
that when you go and look out there and the
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mismatches that you can see on the field way whether
it's Worthy and Hollywood Brown in their speed or you
look at a future Hall of Famer in Travis Kelcey,
and then you look at guys like DeAndre Hopkins and
Jujus Smith Schuster they've convinced to play those complimentary roles,
those roles that it's not like going back to that
twenty seven team where you had Wes Welker and Randy
Moss right who were starting in that spot. You know,
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it wasn't like you had a lot of other guys
that were kind of supplementing in that, like DeAndre Hopkins
could maybe make a case for being in the Hall
of Fame with the way he's as productive as he's
been in his career as a wide receiver. But those
guys are like an afterthought with all the different issues
that you have to deal with with Patrick Mahomes in
this offense. So I'm excited to see, you know, both
sides of this. You know what Fick Fangio does defensively
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to try to take away Patrick Mahomes obviously in the
passing game and Kelsey, but even just his ability to run,
Like we kind of noticed that when the game is
on the line, Mahomes is not afraid to make a
play with his legs, and it feels like he kind
of keeps that in his back pocket until they need
it the most and then he brings it out. It's
effective and they end up winning in the end.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Now, how is it you played for the Kansas City Chiefs?
Is that fan base as obnoxious as the Eagles fan
base can contend to be years as well.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
We were awful when I was there. Absolutely. In fact,
like you could probably give us a little credit for
ultimately this leading to the success of the Kansas City
Chiefs because it led to Andy Reid getting hired. Alex
Smith came into his quarterback, which you know, he got
it to a point where they were a perennial playoff team,
and then they make the move to take the homes
some years later, and then he gets them now over
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the top, not only to you know, get to the
AFC Championship Game, but to win Super Bowls. I mean,
an entirely different stratosphere. But I think a lot of
us from that twenty twelve team probably take credit for
more the Kansas City Chiefs. I't no, but the fan
base in and of itself is awesome. They are some
of the most devout fans. They're not you know, I
would say they differ mightily from Philly. I mean, they're
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not climbing light poles after big victories or slapping police
horses on the ass after big victories.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, because I had heard that you had kind of
pissed some of the Chiefs fans off when you were
in Kansas City just with you know, not cleaning up
after your dog or something like that. There was like
an issue like the nay, pissed off the neighbor or
something like that, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Gonna you're gonna bring up my dog how in the
dead of winter when it was kind of a young puppy,
you know, maybe had the runs for you know, a
stint of a week or two having to go into
the bathroom in a spot outside that was near like
an air vent, you know, for the other person's I mean,
how's your dog doing? You tell it's howverphone about your dog? Well, on,
give me a shovel. I'll be back next segment.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Look, you know, just like is that the quarterback for
the Chiefs and is that his dog?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right out of the vent. I just you know, I
think that's that's fun. You know, I don't think that
was very widely known outside of my neighbor next door.
You're very kind about it. They just simply asked, can
you not have your dog go to the bathroom that spot?
It's right next to a ventilation system that we have
bringing fresh air into the house. Then obviously their house smell,
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this wretched dog poos smell. So I was unaware of
this because I was obviously at the facility for a
long period of time. But I was hard to get
a hold of. And you know, different generations don't like
the text. So they would try calling and that I'd
try calling, and just it was a game of phone
tag for a few days. But apparently the stench build
up quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Well the the gambling line, which is something we're going
to discuss here very shortly in another topic here. The
gambling line has not moved, so no movement on DraftKings.
Kansas still still a one and a half favorite. Yeah,
wonder who's who's got in the game? You got John Day,
So we will. We will keep you posted if if
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that changes, or whether or not Lee finds a home
Before the end of this show.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It is the Herd.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn Jonas Knox filling
in for Colin Coward here on the show coming up
next here, though, we got another scandal. You just can't
give players, You can't give people in sports nice things
because they just ruin it for everybody. We've got the
report and the details next for you here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's a Herd.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Jonas Knox in for Colin.
Coming up in about twenty minutes from now, We've got
somebody speaking out on a star player that could potentially
be on the move. We'll get into that for you
here on FSR. Here again twenty minutes from now with
Ryan Music. We've got ourselves another scandal potentially in the
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world of sports, a gambling scandal.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Which just melt my heart.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean, these stories every time they come out, I
can't heart right up your I mean, just serving it up,
just serving it up. And it's the NBA again, because
of course it is. But don't worry, they're going to
fix their problems with a with ten minute quarters. That
that's something else that was thrown out there. But apparently
this goes all the way back to you know, the
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Johntay Porter stuff that took place.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
He got popped. Apparently Terry Roseier of the.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Who's currently of the Miami Heat, was previously with the
Hornets and he was in a game that took place
a couple of years back in which he started the
game but then left the game because he had some
sort of an issue or an injury that popped up.
He ended up missing the remainder of the season, But
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people noticed irregularities in the betting that his points, rebounds
and assists total, what finished far below where it was
supposed to be at and what the trajectory was going
to be, And there was a lot of people laying
money on that, and so they've traced it back. The
NBA has said that they found that Terry Roseier had
nothing to do with this, He was not involved in
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anything like this, because of course they did. But my
question is, wouldn't you need direct line of communication from
Terry rose Year to somebody placing these bets in order
to know whether or not he actually gave insider inside
information or insider trading to somebody that he was going
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to not play past the first quarter of that game.
So bety under on his totals, like, wouldn't you need that?
It feels like this is a bit far fetched in.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Order to I guess, like convict him, to kick him out,
to have like stone cold evidence. WHU you think that
if you've got the middleman, and you've got any communication
you know, prior to the game that he's then feeding
to this other group, Like, wouldn't you say that's enough?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Well, is there that information? And I would also say,
I don't know, man, you love this topic. Okay, that's
what we're talking about. But my point is, and there's
nothing more than a gambling scandal that I like because
I think it it adds another layer to look when
these guys in the NFL got popped because they were
placing wagers while inside the trainer's room on a college
football game, and the NFL freaked out and suspended him
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six games and Calvin Ridley an entire season of his
career because he was betting seven legue parlays. Like everybody
just you know, immediately jumped a conclusion to said, oh well,
gambling in the sports. Yeah, everyone like just like, oh, well,
you know they're betting on these games. This is a
stain on the sport. You can't let gambling companies in
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the sport and have stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What do you think it's like? No, Like, these are rarities.
This is a one off.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
If Terry Rogier hit up somebody and said, by the way,
I'm going to leave the first quarter of this game
after about nine minutes, so bet the under on my
totals for the game. Then I would get it. But
if all of a sudden, Terry Rozier had a conversation
with somebody that he didn't know was in conversation with
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a scumbag that worked at a gambling site that was
trying to fix games or fix lines, and just said, yeah,
my foot's been bothering me. I'm going to try and
give it a go, but I may leave early tonight.
There's no saying that that Terry Rosier knew that he
was given information that was going to cause people laying
money on these games. And I just like, just because
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these guys are involved doesn't mean they know the scumbags
that are around them that are trying to get insider information.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I do appreciate that you're laying it out there to
protect him. I do appreciate that. Yes, I do think
there's probably enough evidence though if they're doing an investigation,
and yes it's circumstantial, but they can connect the dots,
you know, as far as when these phone calls, when
these texts, when this communication happened, and then how it
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impacts that particular game and the activity that's associated with it.
I mean, this all came about too, right because the
folks that were a part of the Jon Say Porter
ended up connecting all this to Terry Rogier as well. Right,
It's the same group and it had that same uptick
and activity that led them to think this. I think
there's a bigger conversation here in regards to just all
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of professional sports because this is kind of the bed
that every single professional sports league has made for them solves,
and now they have toy in it. I mean at
this point where we're lying more on the FEDS, but
really all these professional sports leagues should do a much
better job of governing this, you know, with their players,
at least as best they can. And I think it's
understandable why you have to give some of these players
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the death sentence, you know, if they are to stumble,
because you can't allow the integrity of whether it's the NBA,
the NHL, the NFL, whatever professional sport you're talking about,
you can't allow that to impact what has been a
cash cow for a lot of these casinos or books
and their sponsorships, and the more they're getting ingrained into
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each one of these leagues, and so if it's thought
that there's something going on or some sort of funny business,
it's going to take away from the consumer all together,
and that's going to hurt all parties involved. So I
think the greater concern for me is, you know, there's
certain sports that it's probably a little easier to have
that sort of impact and to be able to hide it.
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You know, basketball is one that's kind of interesting that
it's going that way, and there was a college basketball
one that that was investigating, and I think there's there's
still investigating some of that as well. But I think
that's the bigger conversation with this is it's not even
the investigation by the by the Feds in this case.
Usually if the Feds are investigating, they've got something to me.
It's more of like, well, what's the response from these
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professional sports leagues, because they have to do a much
better job of building up trust with their fan bases
that this isn't happening more often than maybe you're leading
on to believe, like you're saying, oh, this is a
rare circumstance. How do we know that? How do you
know that? I mean you'res a big degenerate gamble of
a Yeah, I'm just here on the show. I'm just
calling it how it is.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I just think that if we sit here and worry about,
you know, every bet that goes wrong, and some and
and a lot of people, well, one of the articles
I read that pointed out that, well, people were complaining
on social media about all that there's something weird going on.
This is fishy because I bet the over on Terry
Rogier and saying, all right, if we're gonna let social
media behavior and people complaining about bets dictates, which I
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can't stand by the way. I can't stand when people
complain and sportsbooks give back the bet because well so
and there was money that came in on somebody's point
total for the game and they got hurt two minutes
into the game. Tough balls. That's the way this stuff goes.
You don't know what's gonna happen. There's no guarantees, and
if a guy gets hurt early, you shouldn't get your
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money back. You just got to wear it. I had
to do it for years and years, is what it is.
I don't sit here and worry about well, God, you know,
so and so could be fixing a game here. So
and so could be fixing a game there. I think
it's plausible that there's a lot of people that may
have connections that maybe these players don't even know about.
So when they're telling somebody here's how I'm feeling, I
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don't know if I'm gonna finish the game, they may
not know that that's going back to some gambling syndicate
or some gambling ring that's gonna, you know, fix games
or go in that direction.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I just don't I'm not paranoid about it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like the NFL, I think even kind of acknowledge that
when they lowered the suspension on some of those games
or some of those players to well, listen, they were
suspended six games, we're going to reduce it to two.
I just think that people don't understand the difference between
a player gambling and a player fixing games. Like a
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player walking by and playing a slot machine at the
Super Bowl in Vegas last year would have resulted in
them getting punished. Why, it's got nothing to do with
fixing the game.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's just gambling. And there's a heriss down there in
New Orleans. If you don't think people are coming by
potentially popping in there for a second. Least there used
to be a Heros.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But yeah, I think it's I understand that it's not
that far from the hotel. By the way, it's a
Caesar I think it's Caesars.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, Yeah, you'll be posted up and then Lee might
be living there for based on the whole living situation.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Look, it's a good point you bring up in revar
in regards to the involvement of a player as part
of this, But we also can't allow players to be
that naive and to be giving up their health information
to individuals that are outside of the organization and potentially
connected to stuff. I mean, does it not come off
as a little bit fishy? I mean, can we not
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expect players to be smarter about how they go about
passing along that sort of information?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, I just maybe I give maybe I'm giving him
too much credit because I would assume that if you're
Terry Rogier and you just signed a four year, ninety
six million dollar deal and that's not the only money
you've made in your career, that why would you need
whatever the percentage is on a parlay to get.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Back That's what doesn't make sense, you know, I mean
the Otani situation, I mean, which you defended Otani the
entire way. You're saying, there's no way it was all
his interpreted. There's no way he laid all those bets.
You had his back, Yeah, the entire way. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean I have just said, like so, I understand
the point you're making. There is a there's a difference
between someone who's legitimately out there throwing a game, right,
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missing throws, missing shots, not giving effort, whatever the case
may be. I mean, hell, if you go back to
was a UMass was it that was kind of rumored
to be potentially investigated for you know, some of their
their pace of play, whereas there are first half overs
on unders in different lines because of the way they
played in the first half or second half.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And believe again, excuse me if I'm wrong with the
team that Arizona State was also another one as well too.
I think, yeah, there's been a couple of teams in
the past that have had, you know, stuff like that
pop up, right, But.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
The general point is there's a big difference between some
of being actively involved and merely passing along information. I
understand that that's probably one of the reasons why there's
gonna be an investigation by the league and they're gonna
you know, punish based on that. But again, you still
have the air on the side of doing something that's
going to create so much fear in the minds of
all those athletes, coaches, included by the way in front
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office executives, that it's going to force them to change
their behavior and change their way of giving out that
information openly, whether it's to family, friends, loved ones. I
mean again, when we first met, I had no idea
the depths of gambling and the type of stuff that
you're willing to place wagers on. I mean, you've been
betting on high line cricket over in India various times
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of the New Deli Daredevils.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I don't even know if they're still around anymore, but yeah,
that used to be a big, big cash grab all
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, the ex exactly. So I had no idea that
depths at once this went and it's where I kind
of had to adjust and be like, I have to
be more guarded with the information that I pass along
to you, in particular about for example, where my dog
my dog, I used to have where it used to
go to the bathroom. Yeah, and previous local.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Well, it was also like one of the cute moments
during COVID all these clowns or is the in las
A Payasso's and all these cry babies that are like.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's no sports on TV, and what am I going
to gamble on?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Dude? There's horse racing in Japan all the time. They
don't even run the right way, they're running in the
opposite You could still get down on that right turn
it like turn on tvg you know, like like grow
a pair and start betting on some of these events.
Like there's options out there. If you can gamble on it,
you can gamble on it. And by the way, you
mean to tell me a player at the Super Bowl
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has never one time walked by the gatorade bottle before
and looked inside the gatorade jug and told one of
his buddies back home made by the way, it's purple
this year and the guys, that's why you put limits
on bets, so that you understand some people are gonna
color outside the lines.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You get it. But if you put a limit on
the bet, you're not losing your ass.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
If somebody cashes in because they've got quote unquote insider information.
I think the problem is you've let too many gambling
virgins into the room behind the velvet ropes, and they
have no idea how to act, and they freak out
and get annoyed whenever professionals know exactly what they're doing.
That's the issue, that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What do you think about that? Yeah, I wanna put
exclamation point on that. You're not wrong. I've always heard,
like the national anthems, it's usually like the worst kept secret.
Of course with rehearsals, how it's gonna hit and be
timed out. But I don't know. Look, maybe I see
it different. I feel like you're more passionate about this music.
I don't know. Are you a degenerate gamble? Gamble? I'm not.
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I am not, not really.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I know Lee loves like scratch offs and some of
those poll tabs you see in bars sometimes. I know
he does. That's where a gamble is.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, Lisa, I don't even know where Lee is right now.
Lee's apartment shopping right now. Li's on realtor dot com
right now. Look at let's all pitch in and get
Lee a shopping cart and he can sleep in that
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh lord h yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You know, good luckily, good luck on that and happy
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Speaker 3 (34:59):
Ryan Music. That's going on. Oh yes, let's go, Brady Quinn,
come on, man, let's go. Let's just finish it off.
Let's go strong here, all right. Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb.
They're both under contract for the Cowboys for the long term. However,
Star pass rusher Micah parsons he's looking for that new deal.
(35:19):
Executive vice president Stephen Jones here's what he had to
say about the two time All Pro quote. I don't
think anyone's ever underestimated Micah's value in terms of what
he can bring. I don't want to get into the details,
but obviously Micah is an important part of what we're about.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Obviously, does that stated the obvious, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Sure they'll handle this smoothly and oh you should be
drawn out or yeah, they'll make a fiasco of this
whole thing. Well, the good thing is they made sure
not to let it get down to the wire to
where they're gonna have absolutely no leverage. Oh wait, Micah Parsons. Yeah,
definitely coming up on the end of his deal. And
so once again I don't know why Jerry and the
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Cowboy is the only one who ended up getting paid
early was Ezekiel Elliott, which wasn't the right move, and
now every other player. I guess technically they kind of
paid CD early.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's why. Kind of yeah, I don't know for their standards.
Here's the thing that doesn't make any sense is of
the three positions that they're we're talking about the quarterback,
the wide receiver in the edge rusher. Those are the
three that like, those are your cornerstones of how you
build a roster. You figure that you would go to
those guys early rather than late. And if there was
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one position as you wouldn't give a deal too early,
it'd be the running back position. I mean, look, give
Jerry Jones credit. You know what? Eeveryone else is zigging.
They're zagging. This is not worked out. We're supposed to
give him credit for that? Are you sure? I just don't.
There's something to be said for it, man. I mean,
he's kind of lived his whole life like that, right,
even how he made his money initially. I think he
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said that in Lambman something like that. That's right, that's right.
I just don't get it. I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It seems so obvious that that's what you would do,
except they take the opposite approach. Seem so obvious if
you really wanted to keep Mike McCarthy around, get a
deal done. Nah, we're just gonna We're gonna let him
walk and then we'll try and scramble and then sell
everybody on. Brian Schottenheimer. I just they continue to amaze me,
and I think we're just at the point. And I
said it this week, I don't think you can take
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them serious as as a super Bowl contender. And I
say that as somebody who had to wear it this
year because I actually picked them to go to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Why they said they were all in.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
What to do?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
He meant something else. Oh no, but I'm just speculating.
I will ask you this though, it is are we
getting to the point though, where I forget about taking
them seriously as a super Bowl team? Are we getting
to the point where you're just like, you're if you're
a Dallas Cowboys fan, are you losing all faith? And
where this thing is heading? Based on who's there base?
(37:50):
I mean, it just it feels like we're venturing to
that part where there's a lot of diehard Dallas Cowboys fans.
There's a lot of things that work, you know, the
tours that are daily around the facilities, stadium, all these things.
I'm not sure that they're gonna be able to drum
up the excitement that this organization once used to be
able to create.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Did you guys ever talk about So this was some
months ago. The Athletic did a fan of did a
survey of Cowboy fans and they did the results. So
here was one of the questions. It was, how do
you feel about the team going forward? And it was
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like overwhelmingly negative.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
This was so this was heading into this season. Will
the Cowboys reach the Super Bowl in the next five years?
Fans generally tend to be irrational and positive about their
team over seventy eight percent. No, the next five years,
not this year, not the next five years. Cowboy fans
were asked, will you get to a super Bowl? Is
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not with the supertatement on dak as much as it
is on Jerry Jones. Sure, I mean yeah, I mean
top to bottom. And I think it's also they've just
been down this Jerry Jones path before to where he
sells and sells everybody on hope and where the Dallas
Cowboys and I'm doing all these interviews and I'm doing like,
you know, come to me for a great clip and
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a great quote. And then it's the end of the
year and they're either a one and done in the
playoffs or they're completely mismatched against a team like the Niners.
Like every year, and especially in that division, Dude like
Washington might have the next superstar quarterback, Philly's not going anywhere.
It doesn't matter who's the coach. They just even if
they have a down year, three years later they're in
another super Bowl. If the Giants could just figure it out,
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Dallas like you're looking at him going, no, you're just
gonna be status quo, like they're a nine to ten
win team tops every year, and maybe they'll squeak into
the postseason. It just it just that's where they feel
like they're at now. But they are America's team, So
that's what matters most. That's Jerry gets his business figured
out and Music, I know, listen, And the good thing
about this is that Music is good friends with Skip Bailey,
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and so Skipp's been very distraught about just where the
where the organization is at as well too. Absolutely, yeah,
everything you just said in that statement was one hundred
percent true and factual. Definitely definitely no lies told there. Okay, well,
when when we're going to make our way from that
to something that did occur was AFC Championship game. Obviously,
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a lot's been made about the fourth down spot for
Josh Allen on his quarterback sneak pick your poison, fixes
in ref's making bad calls? Why do chiefs always get
the calls? Everybody's been all over this. Not sure exactly
where you guys stand, but I can tell you exactly
where James Cook, the Bills running back stands. Here's what
he had to say about some of these calls. Quote,
(40:46):
at the end of the day, you've got to come
in ready to go. Blank that ref blank. You got
to come in there be ready to play. Don't give
the ref nothing to call, ref nothing to call. So James,
letting it be known, you shouldn't leave it in the
hands of the referees.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Look at that. It wasn't the refs fall like that.
I look at that. I'll be honest with you. It
was one of the things I told my daughters, Like
I literally said to them because we were watching the game.
They went to bed and they asked me the next morning.
He said, well, there was some controversial calls. And I
was like, there's a lesson here. It's do not let
the game be close enough where the officials get impact
the game. And so I was like, if you're gonna win,
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win big. Otherwise you can't complain about what happens with
the officiating.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I just think if you're a Bills fan, it's over, dude,
Like you listen, you lost the game.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You had your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well, no, I'm not saying in general, I'm just saying
all this season, you just like you had your chances.
Like it's not like that was the one play or
walls the fourth down spot. Like, as we said, there's
twelve and a half minutes left in the game. What
happened after that? Like, you know, Daltonkin kaid, you know,
mate probably should have had that ball. He didn't like
just there's there's been moments. There were the fourth downs
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they got stopped.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I was said, I do appreciate the final play. All
the all the quarterbacks on social media pointing out what
Josh Allen should have done with two free rushers.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's like, okay, was it Shaquiro? Oh yeah, shakuiir right
over there. It's like, dude, he's got guys breathing tennis
neck can't breathe.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well, this is what he should have done with the protection.
This is whines. Okay, just take a seat, like take
this playoff. Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, Well we'll wrap up with this. Some pettiness, some
drama out of the NFL. Liam Cohen, your new head
coach in Jacksonville for the Jaguars as well, Oh, trying
to fill out his coaching staff, and well he'd like
to bring over some of his buddies that his former
co workers down in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
He had a bit of a sketchy exit from Tampa Bay,
and the Buccaneers are now saying no thanks, We're not
here to help. He's requested interviews to bring over two
different coaches from the Tampa Bay staff to join him
with the Jaguars, and the Buccaneers have officially blocked those requests.
So some bad blood if you will still between the
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Buccaneers and Liam cohen sarious exit.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
It matters how you leave, right, We talk about this
all the time. So Lee, remember when you break up
after this this condo actually sells. It matters, all right,
how you break up with her. If you don't want
the rest of your clothes, your shirt's turning the crop tops.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Okay, yeah, Lee, just say duval the way he did
it should be a smooth sailing after that.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Duvo. That's just brutal, man.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
It's too bad Jacksonville doesn't play Tampa next year. This
is why the NFL shoudn't announce schedules that far in advance.
Flex out bad blood games and flex in you know,
some some other stuff that you need to but like,
get us, get us that matchup next year would be fun.
But hey, Brady, see you in New Orleans. Babe,
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Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, No, LeVar Arrington,
what happens to him? I mean, that's what happens here
on this show. Shape up or ship out? All right, Well,
don't have to be tolerated. It's not going to be
tolerated here. So Lvar, you came out.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
About his hypothetical conversation. I mean you didn't have a
chance to weigh in and shows notts of one away.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
In listen you know, uh the clock called and uh
and it was it was time to get out.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
But uh, yeah, LeVar Harrington, I thought you were just
upset about his lack of prep bang bang.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I totally agree with the You know, Bill Belichick's not
in Vegas as head coach because him and Tom Brady
couldn't co exist or there was a falling out when
they were together in New England.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, there's also an element of if you hire
a guy like that, there's the potential you have to
fire him too. Like, I'm not sure that maybe you
want to have to go through that. It's like everyone
talks about, oh, I'd love to start a business and
like work with my friends. It's like, yeah, well what
happens though when things don't go right or they're not
doing their job, it's usually why a lot of those
(01:44):
businesses die because guys don't want to have to fire
some of their buddies and their friends. I mean, hell,
there's coaches, you you know, come into the NFL. They
hire some of their buddies as opposed to maybe the
best coordinators or position coaches, and at times that happens,
they either fall victim to the team not have success,
but they've got to fire some of their best friends
and it fractures relationships. It could be about that. There's
(02:06):
a lot of reasons as to why, but I just
I can't think that he's thinking in the back of
his mind, well, if I hire Bill Belichick, what's going
to be my reputation or legacy as an owner, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And it's also that Belichick was just he was just
on his podcast talking about how you know, they were
making the point, oh, they should rename the Loamardi Trophy
the Brady Trophy. But his bigger point was, dude, it's
not about coaches, it's about players. Like it would not
surprise me if Tom Brady and having a conversation with Belichick,
just said, listen, dude, we're not ready, like like, you know,
(02:36):
don't you know you want to go pursue that pursue
that maybe we could kick the tires on this again,
but in that division with no quarterback, Like, what's the plan?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Right, So there's that element of like, if they're willing
to hire a seventy three year old, it's like, well,
a year from now, things could look different. Maybe we're
a little better position, you know, So it's someone to
bring you in or hire you after a year or two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So it just it feels like Mahomes isn't going anywhere where,
justin Herbert's not going anywhere. Bow Nicks, you know, had
a great rookie year. They appear to be, you know,
heading in the right direction. The Raiders just to appear
like they're in a tough spot. Although Pete Carroll does
make him interesting like that, I aim looking forward to
that aspect of it, so.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Aspecially in Vegas. There's just so many things that based
on how he ran his teams in Seattle and even
at Southern cal I could just I could imagine many
of the things that could happen off the field that
would be fun to see. But I do want to
ask this question because we started off the show and
we were surprised, very similar to probably the two thousand
and seven Super Bowl between at the time the undefeated
New England Patriots getting upset by the Giants. But we'll
(03:38):
get to that in a moment. I'm curious, has Lee
found a place to sleep tonight and gets running out
his condo apartment? Whatever the hell? I wish you could
see him. He looks so worn down. I wish you
could see him. I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I just got to make my way to Bourbon Street
to New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Really, you said you made the decision, but it feels
like this decision kayu off guard, which leads me to
think it was the other person who's a part owner
of this condo.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, listen, I've been trying to get this condo off
my hands for a while, but we also had it
listed for long term rental and then so it hadn't
gotten any bites really, but then it just kind of
fell into my lap with a one day notice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Is a month considered long term? It feels like more
a short term run.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It is, but it's it's for an Airbnb or Verbo
or something like that. It's it's considered a long term.
How do you by California law and the and the
R and the rules and regulations of my of my complex,
it has to be a month or longer.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But you own the place, shouldn't they give you more
than like fifteen minutes notice that somebody's moving in in
two days?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I get That's what I expected.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I thought what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Something happened in between when you placed it?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Was there?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Not?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think we had actually controlling. I think we had
lowers controlling. Who's controlling the Airbnb or the vrbo account.
Who's control both of us? Both don't see both of us?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, well her mostly, But I mean I'm okay, I'm
an administrator on it, an administrator on it too, and
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We had lowered the price. By the way, do you
find we get it? You're the HOA president. We understand
you're important, but she clearly is making the decisions in
this case.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well it's Do you find it a little coincidental that
this all took place while she happened to be out
of town?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No's weird?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Huh No, yeah, that's some Uh yeah, my intentnas went
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, a little funny. She had to get out of
town all of a sudden. Hey, what do you know?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You got to be out too, and you have nowhere
to go?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So can you imagine, By the way, when he dropped
her off, she's been she's been thinking and planning this
all along, and she's just walking through the airport ready
to get on her flight, thinking to myself, yep, got him.
Good for a good time. All right, we'll see about that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, she set him to send him to work on
forty minutes sleep. Little does she know, hang a left
and there's a liquor store with a can of smiles
right across the way.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In music, is there a cot we can throw up
in the studio for maybe sleep until Sunday ntill he flies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I think we got some space around here. He'll
have some friends overnight, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Actually we'll get an idea. Well, Colin's moving to Chicago, right,
he made the big announcement. Why can't Lee just stay
at Collins place?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's yeah, listen, Well we'll put a word in with Colin.
See if he's got some space. Yeah, I think you're
under the right path here. Two, he's on the phone
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How fast would music get a call from Coward going?
What did you do? Who is this guy in my house?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Anybody see what happened to my bomb based sapphire I
had on the shelf?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Where did that go? Yeah? At least stop by? I
needed needed a place to stay. But well, just I'm
imagining Lee late night doing god knows what in his underwear,
waltzing around the house because I drinking, drigging Colins or
shoes the bridge run right out of the jug.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Because people people that don't know Lee is always like,
hey man, totally why we call him Lee Bowski because
he's totally cool, totally calm and collected all the time,
always in a good mood, always happy to see everybody,
And he just looked run down today, and it didn't
make any sense because the show is six hours later
than when we normally start, so we're working on prime sleep.
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Then you come to find out he just recently discovered
he was homeless.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And by the way, this is coming off the back
of his car getting broke into by a bunch of
bombs who had a soup kitchen in the back of
I think I saw that bum yesterday.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Dude, he had a brand new nomadic bag on. He's like,
thanks for the bag, money, and it's exactly the same thing.
I was loading my car with a bunch of stuff.
I was like, he's gonna break into my freaking car again.
And then he left a pile of fuke on the sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Did you chase him down?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Lee? Once?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Your back back the wrong one. I think this was
the other one. I think this is the one that
actually got my backpack. Yeah, diversionary tactic. Here, you go,
get in the car and then I'll run the other way,
make them think it's me.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well that was left. That was laptop number two. I
tell you different. Several times I've caught myself realizing at
and what old you find in the back of your car?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, animals. Oh no, I call that a super kitchen.
It's just just revolting.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, look, we'll keep your posters to whether or not
a Lee finds a place to stay. We've got, you know,
a little over fifty minutes to play with here on
the show. Obviously, super Bowl is next week. We are
going to be in New Orleans for that. Everybody excited
for it, everybody fired up. Brady loves New Orleans. I
can't wait to get there and and take in all
the sites of sound of Bourbon Street and Radio Row
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at five in the morning. Also, I am curious when
it comes to this matchup because everyone's talking about, well,
you know, if they go for a three pet I
do wonder what the rooting interest is of these teams
as far as people that maybe are the casual watcher
or people that aren't a fan specifically of the Chiefs
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or the Eagles, because if you remember the Super Bowl
in seven eight, when the Giants were playing the Patriots
and the Patriots were going for that perfect season, that
was an opportunity to see history. We'd never seen it
done before to that level outside of the seventy two Dolphins,
but it would have been you know, all those playoff games,
an extended season based on when the Dolphins did it
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back in the day, and yet I felt like the
rooting interest was for the underdog, the New York Giants
in that spot. Do you get the vibe that that's
the same with the Eagles, because there's a lot about
the Eagles that just rub people the wrong way, you know,
whether it's Sirianni like they just so. I'm not sure
that we're at that point yet, but I'd be curious
to know whether or not people want to see history
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and the three peat or they just want to see
a win or lose.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Because the Chiefs are the on all of a sudden
in the NAF, I think there's a lot of pent
up frustration and anger and probably some some hate, you know,
probably some jealousy of what the Chiefs have been able
to accomplish. I mean, just getting to this point is historic.
But you know, you throw in the coverage with Taylor
Swift and everything else, I think there's a lot of
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people who are just tired of it. You know, the
officiating angle that they always get the benefit of the doubts.
So because of the history behind it, like you can
make the comparison, I think to that Patriots Giants matchup,
the Patriots obviously trying to go for that, you know,
most recent undefeated season with the expanded regular season, But
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I don't know. I mean, I think it's fair to
make the comparison between the two. The tough thing for
me is if you go back to that Giants team,
I think they were like, what a ten and six
team that they had to win a few games down
the stretch in order to make it as a wildcard team,
and then we're on the road the entire way to
get to the super Bowl and then ultimate you know,
beat the New England Patriots. So it just had a
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different feel to it. I mean, this Philly team might
have the better roster on paper if you're comparing the
two teams man for man, and they were the favorite,
they had the home field advantage. You know, we kind
of watched them go through the playoffs and it feels
like they're a much more formidable opponent. And they've got
a candidate for the MVP and Saquon Barkley. They've they've
got arguably the best offensive line, and so I kind
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of look at it and say, all right, we've we've
seen this matchup before. You know, we hadn't seen that
Giants defense and Steve Spagnola taken on you know, then
a Tom Brady led team. But we've saw this a
couple of years ago, where if you go back to
that matchup, Heurtzel was the best player on the field.
I mean, he played phenomenal in that game, and it
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still wasn't enough. And I think obviously the addition of
Saquon Barkley is what, you know, might even tilt the
field a little bit in favor of Philly even though
they're not the betting favorite in this one. Where Steve Spagnola,
I mean, he's been unbelievable. I mean Hall of Fame
just as a defensive coordinator, which I do think he
should get in. I'm not sure that enough people have
talked about that. We seem to just want to talk about, Hey,
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why is he not getting a head coaching job. He's
a Hall of Famer in my opinion, with the impact
that he's had on two separate Giants teams. This Kansas
City Chiefs team, this run that they're on, has a
lot to do with him. But I think this game
plan is so much more difficult than what they were
tasked with the last time they played the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The Chiefs, I guess hate or villain role that they've
taken on. You just knew it was only a matter
of time, just like it was only a matter of
time when the Patriots got it when they were America's
team and they beat the greatest show on turf and
they came out as a team from the Tunnel and
the super Bowl and it was like, oh, it was
the greatest thing in the world. And then they went
on in that run, and then just a few laters
a few years later, everybody wanted him to lose. The
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chief stuff is fascinating because you've got like the Bills
and you know, whether it's Sean McDermott, whether it's Brandon Bean.
You know, people are talking about apparently they've sent video
of the fourth down spot again the Chiefs that went
the other way, They've sent that into the league. You've
got all these people using all these excuses. It's like, well,
there was twelve and a half minutes left in the game,
like so like that's not like that cost you the game.
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It's just all the excuses, all of the well, the
Chiefs get all the calls, and they get everything, and
they get the benefit of the doubt here, and I
just find myself wanting to see them win more because
of all that, just because it pisses off more people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Because no matter what, if this game is played.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Exactly the way the previous Super Bowl was played or
any of these, somebody's gonna find something about the Chiefs
and they're gonna bitch about it, like they are the
team that has elicited all this bitching and moaning on
social media.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And I think it's.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Fascinating, Like, I think it's wonderful. I think it's great
for the league, and it's great to piss off as
many people as possible if you just keep on winning.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That seems to be the status quo for your takes.
I mean, you ar contrarian. You do like the go
against Yeah, but you like to go against the grain,
you know, go against go against the flow a little bit.
That's me. Yeah, that's good and I can understand that. Like,
I think there's an element of appreciation that I have
for Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and what they're doing
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historic in nature, because we haven't seen a team who's
won back to back Super Bowls get to a third
one like this, but even the fact that we're gonna
now going to see them potentially make history in winning it.
And I think more so than that, it's just been
the entirety of the run. Like as great as the
Patriots were, they haven't had a run like this in
what six years, yeah, where they made it to every
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single AFC Championship game. I mean, you're looking at what
is something that we keep saying like, well, we'll probably
never see this again. I don't know they'll ever see
this again. I really don't. And I think it's a
it's a credit obviously to Patch Mahomes, Andy Reid, but
it's also a credit to their front office. I think
the job that they've done constructing a roster of guys
that when you go and look out there and the
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mismatches that you can see on the field way whether
it's Worthy and Hollywood Brown in their speed or you
look at a future Hall of Famer in Travis Kelcey,
and then you look at guys like DeAndre Hopkins and
Jujus Smith Schuster they've convinced to play those complimentary roles,
those roles that it's not like going back to that
twenty seven team where you had Wes Welker and Randy
Moss right who were starting in that spot. You know,
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it wasn't like you had a lot of other guys
that were kind of supplementing in that, like DeAndre Hopkins
could maybe make a case for being in the Hall
of Fame with the way he's as productive as he's
been in his career as a wide receiver. But those
guys are like an afterthought with all the different issues
that you have to deal with with Patrick Mahomes in
this offense. So I'm excited to see, you know, both
sides of this. You know what Fick Fangio does defensively
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to try to take away Patrick Mahomes obviously in the
passing game and Kelsey, but even just his ability to run,
Like we kind of noticed that when the game is
on the line, Mahomes is not afraid to make a
play with his legs, and it feels like he kind
of keeps that in his back pocket until they need
it the most and then he brings it out. It's
effective and they end up winning in the end.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Now, how is it you played for the Kansas City Chiefs?
Is that fan base as obnoxious as the Eagles fan
base can contend to be years as well.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
We were awful when I was there. Absolutely. In fact,
like you could probably give us a little credit for
ultimately this leading to the success of the Kansas City
Chiefs because it led to Andy Reid getting hired. Alex
Smith came into his quarterback, which you know, he got
it to a point where they were a perennial playoff team,
and then they make the move to take the homes
some years later, and then he gets them now over
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the top, not only to you know, get to the
AFC Championship Game, but to win Super Bowls. I mean,
an entirely different stratosphere. But I think a lot of
us from that twenty twelve team probably take credit for
more the Kansas City Chiefs. I't no, but the fan
base in and of itself is awesome. They are some
of the most devout fans. They're not you know, I
would say they differ mightily from Philly. I mean, they're
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not climbing light poles after big victories or slapping police
horses on the ass after big victories.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, because I had heard that you had kind of
pissed some of the Chiefs fans off when you were
in Kansas City just with you know, not cleaning up
after your dog or something like that. There was like
an issue like the nay, pissed off the neighbor or
something like that, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Gonna you're gonna bring up my dog how in the
dead of winter when it was kind of a young puppy,
you know, maybe had the runs for you know, a
stint of a week or two having to go into
the bathroom in a spot outside that was near like
an air vent, you know, for the other person's I mean,
how's your dog doing? You tell it's howverphone about your dog? Well, on,
give me a shovel. I'll be back next segment.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Look, you know, just like is that the quarterback for
the Chiefs and is that his dog?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right out of the vent. I just you know, I
think that's that's fun. You know, I don't think that
was very widely known outside of my neighbor next door.
You're very kind about it. They just simply asked, can
you not have your dog go to the bathroom that spot?
It's right next to a ventilation system that we have
bringing fresh air into the house. Then obviously their house smell,
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this wretched dog poos smell. So I was unaware of
this because I was obviously at the facility for a
long period of time. But I was hard to get
a hold of. And you know, different generations don't like
the text. So they would try calling and that I'd
try calling, and just it was a game of phone
tag for a few days. But apparently the stench build
up quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Well the the gambling line, which is something we're going
to discuss here very shortly in another topic here. The
gambling line has not moved, so no movement on DraftKings.
Kansas still still a one and a half favorite. Yeah,
wonder who's who's got in the game? You got John Day,
So we will. We will keep you posted if if
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that changes, or whether or not Lee finds a home
Before the end of this show.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It is the Herd.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn Jonas Knox filling
in for Colin Coward here on the show coming up
next here, though, we got another scandal. You just can't
give players, You can't give people in sports nice things
because they just ruin it for everybody. We've got the
report and the details next for you here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noone Easter, not a im Pacific.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's a Herd.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Jonas Knox in for Colin.
Coming up in about twenty minutes from now, We've got
somebody speaking out on a star player that could potentially
be on the move. We'll get into that for you
here on FSR. Here again twenty minutes from now with
Ryan Music. We've got ourselves another scandal potentially in the
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world of sports, a gambling scandal.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Which just melt my heart.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean, these stories every time they come out, I
can't heart right up your I mean, just serving it up,
just serving it up. And it's the NBA again, because
of course it is. But don't worry, they're going to
fix their problems with a with ten minute quarters. That
that's something else that was thrown out there. But apparently
this goes all the way back to you know, the
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Johntay Porter stuff that took place.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
He got popped. Apparently Terry Roseier of the.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Who's currently of the Miami Heat, was previously with the
Hornets and he was in a game that took place
a couple of years back in which he started the
game but then left the game because he had some
sort of an issue or an injury that popped up.
He ended up missing the remainder of the season, But
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people noticed irregularities in the betting that his points, rebounds
and assists total, what finished far below where it was
supposed to be at and what the trajectory was going
to be, And there was a lot of people laying
money on that, and so they've traced it back. The
NBA has said that they found that Terry Roseier had
nothing to do with this, He was not involved in
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anything like this, because of course they did. But my
question is, wouldn't you need direct line of communication from
Terry rose Year to somebody placing these bets in order
to know whether or not he actually gave insider inside
information or insider trading to somebody that he was going
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to not play past the first quarter of that game.
So bety under on his totals, like, wouldn't you need that?
It feels like this is a bit far fetched in.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Order to I guess, like convict him, to kick him out,
to have like stone cold evidence. WHU you think that
if you've got the middleman, and you've got any communication
you know, prior to the game that he's then feeding
to this other group, Like, wouldn't you say that's enough?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Well, is there that information? And I would also say,
I don't know, man, you love this topic. Okay, that's
what we're talking about. But my point is, and there's
nothing more than a gambling scandal that I like because
I think it it adds another layer to look when
these guys in the NFL got popped because they were
placing wagers while inside the trainer's room on a college
football game, and the NFL freaked out and suspended him
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six games and Calvin Ridley an entire season of his
career because he was betting seven legue parlays. Like everybody
just you know, immediately jumped a conclusion to said, oh well,
gambling in the sports. Yeah, everyone like just like, oh, well,
you know they're betting on these games. This is a
stain on the sport. You can't let gambling companies in
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the sport and have stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What do you think it's like? No, Like, these are rarities.
This is a one off.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
If Terry Rogier hit up somebody and said, by the way,
I'm going to leave the first quarter of this game
after about nine minutes, so bet the under on my
totals for the game. Then I would get it. But
if all of a sudden, Terry Rozier had a conversation
with somebody that he didn't know was in conversation with
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a scumbag that worked at a gambling site that was
trying to fix games or fix lines, and just said, yeah,
my foot's been bothering me. I'm going to try and
give it a go, but I may leave early tonight.
There's no saying that that Terry Rosier knew that he
was given information that was going to cause people laying
money on these games. And I just like, just because
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these guys are involved doesn't mean they know the scumbags
that are around them that are trying to get insider information.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I do appreciate that you're laying it out there to
protect him. I do appreciate that. Yes, I do think
there's probably enough evidence though if they're doing an investigation,
and yes it's circumstantial, but they can connect the dots,
you know, as far as when these phone calls, when
these texts, when this communication happened, and then how it
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impacts that particular game and the activity that's associated with it.
I mean, this all came about too, right because the
folks that were a part of the Jon Say Porter
ended up connecting all this to Terry Rogier as well. Right,
It's the same group and it had that same uptick
and activity that led them to think this. I think
there's a bigger conversation here in regards to just all
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of professional sports because this is kind of the bed
that every single professional sports league has made for them solves,
and now they have toy in it. I mean at
this point where we're lying more on the FEDS, but
really all these professional sports leagues should do a much
better job of governing this, you know, with their players,
at least as best they can. And I think it's
understandable why you have to give some of these players
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the death sentence, you know, if they are to stumble,
because you can't allow the integrity of whether it's the NBA,
the NHL, the NFL, whatever professional sport you're talking about,
you can't allow that to impact what has been a
cash cow for a lot of these casinos or books
and their sponsorships, and the more they're getting ingrained into
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each one of these leagues, and so if it's thought
that there's something going on or some sort of funny business,
it's going to take away from the consumer all together,
and that's going to hurt all parties involved. So I
think the greater concern for me is, you know, there's
certain sports that it's probably a little easier to have
that sort of impact and to be able to hide it.
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You know, basketball is one that's kind of interesting that
it's going that way, and there was a college basketball
one that that was investigating, and I think there's there's
still investigating some of that as well. But I think
that's the bigger conversation with this is it's not even
the investigation by the by the Feds in this case.
Usually if the Feds are investigating, they've got something to me.
It's more of like, well, what's the response from these
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professional sports leagues, because they have to do a much
better job of building up trust with their fan bases
that this isn't happening more often than maybe you're leading
on to believe, like you're saying, oh, this is a
rare circumstance. How do we know that? How do you
know that? I mean you'res a big degenerate gamble of
a Yeah, I'm just here on the show. I'm just
calling it how it is.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I just think that if we sit here and worry about,
you know, every bet that goes wrong, and some and
and a lot of people, well, one of the articles
I read that pointed out that, well, people were complaining
on social media about all that there's something weird going on.
This is fishy because I bet the over on Terry
Rogier and saying, all right, if we're gonna let social
media behavior and people complaining about bets dictates, which I
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can't stand by the way. I can't stand when people
complain and sportsbooks give back the bet because well so
and there was money that came in on somebody's point
total for the game and they got hurt two minutes
into the game. Tough balls. That's the way this stuff goes.
You don't know what's gonna happen. There's no guarantees, and
if a guy gets hurt early, you shouldn't get your
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money back. You just got to wear it. I had
to do it for years and years, is what it is.
I don't sit here and worry about well, God, you know,
so and so could be fixing a game here. So
and so could be fixing a game there. I think
it's plausible that there's a lot of people that may
have connections that maybe these players don't even know about.
So when they're telling somebody here's how I'm feeling, I
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don't know if I'm gonna finish the game, they may
not know that that's going back to some gambling syndicate
or some gambling ring that's gonna, you know, fix games
or go in that direction.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I just don't I'm not paranoid about it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like the NFL, I think even kind of acknowledge that
when they lowered the suspension on some of those games
or some of those players to well, listen, they were
suspended six games, we're going to reduce it to two.
I just think that people don't understand the difference between
a player gambling and a player fixing games. Like a
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player walking by and playing a slot machine at the
Super Bowl in Vegas last year would have resulted in
them getting punished. Why, it's got nothing to do with
fixing the game.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's just gambling. And there's a heriss down there in
New Orleans. If you don't think people are coming by
potentially popping in there for a second. Least there used
to be a Heros.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
But yeah, I think it's I understand that it's not
that far from the hotel. By the way, it's a
Caesar I think it's Caesars.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now, Yeah, you'll be posted up and then Lee might
be living there for based on the whole living situation.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Look, it's a good point you bring up in revar
in regards to the involvement of a player as part
of this, But we also can't allow players to be
that naive and to be giving up their health information
to individuals that are outside of the organization and potentially
connected to stuff. I mean, does it not come off
as a little bit fishy? I mean, can we not
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expect players to be smarter about how they go about
passing along that sort of information?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, I just maybe I give maybe I'm giving him
too much credit because I would assume that if you're
Terry Rogier and you just signed a four year, ninety
six million dollar deal and that's not the only money
you've made in your career, that why would you need
whatever the percentage is on a parlay to get.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Back That's what doesn't make sense, you know, I mean
the Otani situation, I mean, which you defended Otani the
entire way. You're saying, there's no way it was all
his interpreted. There's no way he laid all those bets.
You had his back, Yeah, the entire way. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean I have just said, like so, I understand
the point you're making. There is a there's a difference
between someone who's legitimately out there throwing a game, right,
(28:53):
missing throws, missing shots, not giving effort, whatever the case
may be. I mean, hell, if you go back to
was a UMass was it that was kind of rumored
to be potentially investigated for you know, some of their
their pace of play, whereas there are first half overs
on unders in different lines because of the way they
played in the first half or second half.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And believe again, excuse me if I'm wrong with the
team that Arizona State was also another one as well too.
I think, yeah, there's been a couple of teams in
the past that have had, you know, stuff like that
pop up, right, But.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
The general point is there's a big difference between some
of being actively involved and merely passing along information. I
understand that that's probably one of the reasons why there's
gonna be an investigation by the league and they're gonna
you know, punish based on that. But again, you still
have the air on the side of doing something that's
going to create so much fear in the minds of
all those athletes, coaches, included by the way in front
(29:45):
office executives, that it's going to force them to change
their behavior and change their way of giving out that
information openly, whether it's to family, friends, loved ones. I
mean again, when we first met, I had no idea
the depths of gambling and the type of stuff that
you're willing to place wagers on. I mean, you've been
betting on high line cricket over in India various times
(30:09):
of the New Deli Daredevils.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I don't even know if they're still around anymore, but yeah,
that used to be a big, big cash grab all
the time.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, the ex exactly. So I had no idea that
depths at once this went and it's where I kind
of had to adjust and be like, I have to
be more guarded with the information that I pass along
to you, in particular about for example, where my dog
my dog, I used to have where it used to
go to the bathroom. Yeah, and previous local.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Well, it was also like one of the cute moments
during COVID all these clowns or is the in las
A Payasso's and all these cry babies that are like.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's no sports on TV, and what am I going
to gamble on?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Dude? There's horse racing in Japan all the time. They
don't even run the right way, they're running in the
opposite You could still get down on that right turn
it like turn on tvg you know, like like grow
a pair and start betting on some of these events.
Like there's options out there. If you can gamble on it,
you can gamble on it. And by the way, you
mean to tell me a player at the Super Bowl
(31:05):
has never one time walked by the gatorade bottle before
and looked inside the gatorade jug and told one of
his buddies back home made by the way, it's purple
this year and the guys, that's why you put limits
on bets, so that you understand some people are gonna
color outside the lines.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You get it. But if you put a limit on
the bet, you're not losing your ass.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
If somebody cashes in because they've got quote unquote insider information.
I think the problem is you've let too many gambling
virgins into the room behind the velvet ropes, and they
have no idea how to act, and they freak out
and get annoyed whenever professionals know exactly what they're doing.
That's the issue, that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What do you think about that? Yeah, I wanna put
exclamation point on that. You're not wrong. I've always heard,
like the national anthems, it's usually like the worst kept secret.
Of course with rehearsals, how it's gonna hit and be
timed out. But I don't know. Look, maybe I see
it different. I feel like you're more passionate about this music.
I don't know. Are you a degenerate gamble? Gamble? I'm not.
(32:05):
I am not, not really.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I know Lee loves like scratch offs and some of
those poll tabs you see in bars sometimes. I know
he does. That's where a gamble is.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, Lisa, I don't even know where Lee is right now.
Lee's apartment shopping right now. Li's on realtor dot com
right now. Look at let's all pitch in and get
Lee a shopping cart and he can sleep in that
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh lord h yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You know, good luckily, good luck on that and happy
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Speaker 3 (34:59):
Ryan Music. That's going on. Oh yes, let's go, Brady Quinn,
come on, man, let's go. Let's just finish it off.
Let's go strong here, all right. Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb.
They're both under contract for the Cowboys for the long term. However,
Star pass rusher Micah parsons he's looking for that new deal.
(35:19):
Executive vice president Stephen Jones here's what he had to
say about the two time All Pro quote. I don't
think anyone's ever underestimated Micah's value in terms of what
he can bring. I don't want to get into the details,
but obviously Micah is an important part of what we're about.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Obviously, does that stated the obvious, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Sure they'll handle this smoothly and oh you should be
drawn out or yeah, they'll make a fiasco of this
whole thing. Well, the good thing is they made sure
not to let it get down to the wire to
where they're gonna have absolutely no leverage. Oh wait, Micah Parsons. Yeah,
definitely coming up on the end of his deal. And
so once again I don't know why Jerry and the
(35:59):
Cowboy is the only one who ended up getting paid
early was Ezekiel Elliott, which wasn't the right move, and
now every other player. I guess technically they kind of
paid CD early.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's why. Kind of yeah, I don't know for their standards.
Here's the thing that doesn't make any sense is of
the three positions that they're we're talking about the quarterback,
the wide receiver in the edge rusher. Those are the
three that like, those are your cornerstones of how you
build a roster. You figure that you would go to
those guys early rather than late. And if there was
(36:29):
one position as you wouldn't give a deal too early,
it'd be the running back position. I mean, look, give
Jerry Jones credit. You know what? Eeveryone else is zigging.
They're zagging. This is not worked out. We're supposed to
give him credit for that? Are you sure? I just don't.
There's something to be said for it, man. I mean,
he's kind of lived his whole life like that, right,
even how he made his money initially. I think he
(36:49):
said that in Lambman something like that. That's right, that's right.
I just don't get it. I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It seems so obvious that that's what you would do,
except they take the opposite approach. Seem so obvious if
you really wanted to keep Mike McCarthy around, get a
deal done. Nah, we're just gonna We're gonna let him
walk and then we'll try and scramble and then sell
everybody on. Brian Schottenheimer. I just they continue to amaze me,
and I think we're just at the point. And I
said it this week, I don't think you can take
(37:17):
them serious as as a super Bowl contender. And I
say that as somebody who had to wear it this
year because I actually picked them to go to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Why they said they were all in.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
What to do?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
He meant something else. Oh no, but I'm just speculating.
I will ask you this though, it is are we
getting to the point though, where I forget about taking
them seriously as a super Bowl team? Are we getting
to the point where you're just like, you're if you're
a Dallas Cowboys fan, are you losing all faith? And
where this thing is heading? Based on who's there base?
(37:50):
I mean, it just it feels like we're venturing to
that part where there's a lot of diehard Dallas Cowboys fans.
There's a lot of things that work, you know, the
tours that are daily around the facilities, stadium, all these things.
I'm not sure that they're gonna be able to drum
up the excitement that this organization once used to be
able to create.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Did you guys ever talk about So this was some
months ago. The Athletic did a fan of did a
survey of Cowboy fans and they did the results. So
here was one of the questions. It was, how do
you feel about the team going forward? And it was
(38:29):
like overwhelmingly negative.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
This was so this was heading into this season. Will
the Cowboys reach the Super Bowl in the next five years?
Fans generally tend to be irrational and positive about their
team over seventy eight percent. No, the next five years,
not this year, not the next five years. Cowboy fans
were asked, will you get to a super Bowl? Is
(38:54):
not with the supertatement on dak as much as it
is on Jerry Jones. Sure, I mean yeah, I mean
top to bottom. And I think it's also they've just
been down this Jerry Jones path before to where he
sells and sells everybody on hope and where the Dallas
Cowboys and I'm doing all these interviews and I'm doing like,
you know, come to me for a great clip and
(39:14):
a great quote. And then it's the end of the
year and they're either a one and done in the
playoffs or they're completely mismatched against a team like the Niners.
Like every year, and especially in that division, Dude like
Washington might have the next superstar quarterback, Philly's not going anywhere.
It doesn't matter who's the coach. They just even if
they have a down year, three years later they're in
another super Bowl. If the Giants could just figure it out,
(39:38):
Dallas like you're looking at him going, no, you're just
gonna be status quo, like they're a nine to ten
win team tops every year, and maybe they'll squeak into
the postseason. It just it just that's where they feel
like they're at now. But they are America's team, So
that's what matters most. That's Jerry gets his business figured
out and Music, I know, listen, And the good thing
about this is that Music is good friends with Skip Bailey,
(40:00):
and so Skipp's been very distraught about just where the
where the organization is at as well too. Absolutely, yeah,
everything you just said in that statement was one hundred
percent true and factual. Definitely definitely no lies told there. Okay, well,
when when we're going to make our way from that
to something that did occur was AFC Championship game. Obviously,
(40:24):
a lot's been made about the fourth down spot for
Josh Allen on his quarterback sneak pick your poison, fixes
in ref's making bad calls? Why do chiefs always get
the calls? Everybody's been all over this. Not sure exactly
where you guys stand, but I can tell you exactly
where James Cook, the Bills running back stands. Here's what
he had to say about some of these calls. Quote,
(40:46):
at the end of the day, you've got to come
in ready to go. Blank that ref blank. You got
to come in there be ready to play. Don't give
the ref nothing to call, ref nothing to call. So James,
letting it be known, you shouldn't leave it in the
hands of the referees.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Look at that. It wasn't the refs fall like that.
I look at that. I'll be honest with you. It
was one of the things I told my daughters, Like
I literally said to them because we were watching the game.
They went to bed and they asked me the next morning.
He said, well, there was some controversial calls. And I
was like, there's a lesson here. It's do not let
the game be close enough where the officials get impact
the game. And so I was like, if you're gonna win,
(41:23):
win big. Otherwise you can't complain about what happens with
the officiating.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I just think if you're a Bills fan, it's over, dude,
Like you listen, you lost the game.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You had your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Well, no, I'm not saying in general, I'm just saying
all this season, you just like you had your chances.
Like it's not like that was the one play or
walls the fourth down spot. Like, as we said, there's
twelve and a half minutes left in the game. What
happened after that? Like, you know, Daltonkin kaid, you know,
mate probably should have had that ball. He didn't like
just there's there's been moments. There were the fourth downs
(41:55):
they got stopped.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I was said, I do appreciate the final play. All
the all the quarterbacks on social media pointing out what
Josh Allen should have done with two free rushers.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's like, okay, was it Shaquiro? Oh yeah, shakuiir right
over there. It's like, dude, he's got guys breathing tennis
neck can't breathe.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Well, this is what he should have done with the protection.
This is whines. Okay, just take a seat, like take
this playoff. Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, Well we'll wrap up with this. Some pettiness, some
drama out of the NFL. Liam Cohen, your new head
coach in Jacksonville for the Jaguars as well, Oh, trying
to fill out his coaching staff, and well he'd like
to bring over some of his buddies that his former
co workers down in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
He had a bit of a sketchy exit from Tampa Bay,
and the Buccaneers are now saying no thanks, We're not
here to help. He's requested interviews to bring over two
different coaches from the Tampa Bay staff to join him
with the Jaguars, and the Buccaneers have officially blocked those requests.
So some bad blood if you will still between the
(42:58):
Buccaneers and Liam cohen sarious exit.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
It matters how you leave, right, We talk about this
all the time. So Lee, remember when you break up
after this this condo actually sells. It matters, all right,
how you break up with her. If you don't want
the rest of your clothes, your shirt's turning the crop tops.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Okay, yeah, Lee, just say duval the way he did
it should be a smooth sailing after that.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Duvo. That's just brutal, man.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
It's too bad Jacksonville doesn't play Tampa next year. This
is why the NFL shoudn't announce schedules that far in advance.
Flex out bad blood games and flex in you know,
some some other stuff that you need to but like,
get us, get us that matchup next year would be fun.
But hey, Brady, see you in New Orleans. Babe,
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