2023 Year in Review w/ Andrew Perloff & Peter Schrager

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Traina. Thank you
so much for listening. We have a phenomenal, phenomenal end
of year's show. We've been doing this now with my buddies,
Peter Schreeger and Andrew Pearloff. We get together for a
roundtable at the end of every year and talk about
the year in sports, the year and media, the year
in pop culture. Schrager and Pearloff are always very entertaining.

(00:24):
I know a lot of you have asked if we
were doing to do this again because we've done it.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
For the last three or four years.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
So that's this show here last SI Media with Jimmy
Trainer podcast in twenty twenty three. Before we get to it,
just a quick reminder last week if you missed it
over Christmas, hope you guys had a nice Christmas. We
did an All Train of Thoughts mailbag edition with Salacati.
You guys send in a bunch of great questions on
sports media nonsports media.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So we did that last week. Two weeks ago. We
had a bonus pod.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Also with aw wrestler MJF which was great. Two weeks
ago Andrew Marshan was on the pod We've had seth
rollins from the WWE Booger McFarlane, Mike Turrico, all recent
guests on Simdia with Jimmy Trainer. So if you missed
any of those, give them a listen, subscribe to the
pod and leave a review on Apple. All right, it's
the twenty twenty three year End SI Media Podcast Extravaganza

(01:13):
with Peter Schrager and Andrew Pearloff right here, right now
on SI Media with Jimmy Tranner, all right, joining me.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
This is now either the third or fourth annual. I
meant to look it up and forgot. I am a
terrible host, That's how bad this is. It's either the
third or fourth annual end of year SI Media Podcast
Extravaganza where I bring on two of my buddies, two
pillars in sports media from Good Morning Football in Fox

(01:43):
Peter Schrager and from the Maggie and Pearlov Show on
CBS Sports Radio Andrew pearl Off. Fellas, thank you for
doing this yet again? Does anyone know third or fourth year?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
No idea play.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Definitely did it during COVID. I remember being in my
hovel of like a you know, children's bedroom, recording it,
so that was twenty twenty, so I'd say this is
twenty twenty one. I'd say this is the fourth year.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think I get a lot of reaction off of this.
I don't know if you guys do. I have to
be very careful, very careful because we all have friends
in the media. Jimmy, I don't know how you do
this on a week to week basis. Criticize the media.
It must be talking.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
He doesn't criticize. Jimmy has on Robert Griffin to talk
for sixty minutes about Robert Griffin and then we'll say
the next week. I think Robert Griffin's really good at
like TV and media like it's not he doesn't criticize.
You know how Jimmy plays the game, Andrew Oh to
NBC if I criticize.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh, and you're sitting there just breaking apart Roger Goodell's
every move there, Peter.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Right, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy head on McAfee good for the
next Good Morning Football's gimme head mcafeel good Morning.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Hundred tweets were just how amazing mcafeel is. I'm like, Jimmy,
it's okay, it's okay, we get it. He did, you
have a solid It's all right, bro, you don't, you don't.
It's good. We understand. It's good, good, good morning.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Football is the only show in America that doesn't think
the NFL has a ref problem.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So relax, Tony was off sides. What do we complained about? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right, god, you know what's crazy about that? If they
don't call that penalty. I mean it was a penalty,
but look forget that, not that. Let's say Tony was
not off sides, Like how especially you shrikes being the
NFL got like how would that Kelsey play?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's the play of the year and of course every sport, right, yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It had the crazy symmetry that no one discussed. The
next day. I brought it up, but Frank Wichick died
that morning fifty two, and the most legendary play of
the nineties might have been Frank Wicheck and the Music
City Miracle. He happens to suddenly pass away in the morning,
and then in the evening against the Bills, Travis Kelcey

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does the same exact thing to Tony as he's darting
to on the sidelines like is Kevin Dyson and scores
it would have been such a ridiculous, like eerie slash
sentimental like tribute to wide check. And then it's all
for or not and we end up talking about you know,
I think Goodell had to court the owner's meetings the
next week is like, you know, we complain about I'll
paraphrase my boss, but we, uh, we complain about all

(04:20):
the mist calls, all the mis calls. They actually got
that call, right, I don't know what you want, like,
it's just whether they want to call it or not.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, my co host Maggie Gray's Bills fans to me,
you know, she said it'd been the eighth play that
against the Bills that would have a nickname, you know,
music gett a miracle a wide right thirteen seconds, like
they're a nickname worthy beating team. She and Bills fans
were elated that they didn't add to the lore. But
the thing about if I ever feel lonely, I need
that little that little hit of getting one hundred likes

(04:47):
on a tweet. I just ripped the NFL officials and
it's like party time us.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I do the Kevin James meme. I'll do any
I just put it on it it's like quick one
k likes, Like, yeah, it didn't, I got it.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I still don't even know what that meme means.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Like I still do this.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
They have no idea what it means, what it's for,
why it exists. I still don't know what bothers me
about the Kelsey play is like I feel like there
was no analysis of because of what happened, Like don't
really analyze it, Like I still don't understand how he
had the time to see Tony and then make that throw, Like,
but there was no breakdown of it because all everyone

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wanted to.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Do was talk about the off sides. It was a bument.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean, if you want a lot of likes,
just tweet anytime in the afternoon. You don't even have
watching football. What is roughing the past for anyway? Question mark,
I don't even have to watch again and boom bringing
the likes and you could also tweet.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's no dumber rule in sports. Then when it's a
touchback where that bounds in the end Z, that's a thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Likes easily too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
All right, so we're gonna recap the year twenty twenty three,
talk about some sports media stuff, some regular sports stuff,
some pop culture stuff. Here's what I wanted to ask
you guys off the top. I'm pretty sure I know
the answer for Pearloff. Okay, so we're all NFL guys, obviously, Stregger,
we don't. I know pearl Off is NFL. I'm I'm
pretty sure pearl Off. Your second favorite sport is the

(06:11):
NBA easily?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, do you college football is a different sport? Because
I'm college football is moving up on the NBA. I'm
gonna be totally.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Okay, Okay, that's good to know, Shrigs. If you had
to pick a second favorite sport behind the NFL.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
NBA, what is it? NBA hardcore and especially post NFL
season so like as much as that I couldn't get
into the in game tournament too much stuff was going on,
but like NBA playoffs, like I am, I will stay
up late. I'll be up till one am watching you know,
Devin Booker and Kevin Durant, you know, right, all right,
So let's start with this.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
What did you What do you guys think the biggest,
most important NFL story of twenty twenty three has been
so far?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Peter, you go first, Peter go first.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
NFL or sports story NFL, and then we'll do non NFL.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I figure we'd break it down. That's why I asked
you that question. Mine is not a flash on the pan.
Mine is a full, long year of Aaron Rodgers coverage.
I think it started with the Darkness Retreat. It quickly
went to the Jets recruitment when without having him on
the roster yet went out to Malibu and foolishly alerted,

(07:25):
you know, people that they were going to Malibu, so
there was paparazzi catching them leaving his home in Malibu.
To the actual you know, announcement on McAfee itself, with
which felt like it was you know, you know, it's
like a fireside chat with FDR like it felt like
it was you know, Frost Nixon. The way that that
was treated, I think that thing broke the internet. I
think that got McAfee whatever you know, he ended up

(07:47):
getting from ESPN. That was like the final kiss on
the on the cherry on top of whatever you want
to call it, because that was like the one event
I remember everyone watching at once as a as a nation,
to the trade, and then you add in the summer
of hope with the Jets. I got to be right
there as a fly on the wat you know, NFL

(08:08):
Network sent me as a part of this, you know,
back to back to football Saturday or Sunday weekend. You know,
the NFL they'll make a tent pole something out of everything.
So we decided to be arbitrarily. We're like, all right
on this weekend. You know, in July, we're gonna send
all our people everywhere. We're gonna watch NFL Plus officially. So, like,
the first thing on NFL Plus was my interview with Rogers, where,

(08:30):
fresh off to Sean Payton quotes, he told Sean Payton
with me, you know, keep my keep my coach, Nathaniel
Hackett's name out of your mouth. And I'm like, all right,
We're off and running and like and then hard knocks
and then the injury and then the speculation that's just
carried off ever since. So I'm gonna say the Rogers
story was the biggest NFL story because he actually left

(08:51):
Green Bay and he actually got to the Big Apple.
And I know it seems like distant memory now, but
when he was going to those Knicks games and the
Rangers games and the Broadway plays, and he was at
car Bone with Zach Wilson, and he was at car
Bone with Sauce Gardner and there was paparazzi, Like, gosh,
he was playing every card right in this media. He

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had him wrapped around his finger. I think he even
converted his biggest haters and skeptics during Hard Knocks. And
then it all comes crashing down with the injury, and
now we're left, you know, we're ending the year with
you know, shock jocks on stations I don't even know,
like calling him out for getting a full back cut
so that he could stay on the act of the
full Aaron Rodgers experience in every single way and looks

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like he's not going to play after all, but like
the speculation that he might if the Jets were good
enough to I think that's a roundabout answer to saying
Rogers was the story of the NFL this year and
he only took four snaps.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
By the way, Peter, you made Hard Knocks. You know
that interview. Not only did it become national news when
it happened, then there were thereon Hard Knocks and the
high death NFL films was totally awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was digging it, trust me. Anytime I see my
face on national TV. I get a little I get
a little excited that they an egomaniac. Andrew what about you.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Okay, here's the thing, the Aaron Rodgers thing I'm on
CBS Sports Radio goes out all over the country six
ten am. Shameless plug the Aaron Rodgers thing. There was
fatigue about it, and I do think, let's get real here.
There's a lot of Jets fans in the media who
make a lot of noise about Aaron Rodgers, mainly Mike
Greenberg and Rich Eisen And there's a New York flavor

(10:24):
to this. I think the rest of the country was
a little bit less into the Jets than New York
was into the Jets, which makes perfect sense because everyone
likes their local team. I mean, Rogers is a one A.
It is the biggest story of the ear. I am
going to go off script immediately. My second story is
I'll tell you what does get calls Dak Prescott. Now
I know that is and it's a year long story.

(10:45):
So Dak throws the two picks against the Niners. All
Dak does all of last year is hit guys between
the numbers, bounces in the air, and the defense gets it.
So I spent all summer listening to people tell me
how terrible Dak Prescott was. Now Dak Prescott's good, and
the same people were saying how terribly is are saying,
Oh my god, how could Cam Newton call him? It's
just a quarterback. What you called him a terrible quarterback

(11:05):
just four months ago? So we get so much reaction
to Dak ben he gets on Mike Oh and yeah,
here we go. I feel like Dak Prescott is always
gonna talking about how to get likes, how to get
phone calls on sports talk radio show. Just ask how
good Dak Prescott is. And I feel like the Cowboys
obviously are always number one to their popularity. To me,
Dak has been a huge story this year.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Jimmy, can I interject you? Yes, goohead Travis and Taylor
is right up there with both of those.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh yeah, I agree, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I disagree. You disagree. I totally disagree.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I always not a legitimate NFL story.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
By the way you said, he said Dak Prescott I
for me, and it's sort of flown under the radar
until recently, and now it's getting a lot of hype.
But the end of Bill Belichick in New England right on.
I think, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's such a slow drip though, it's such a slow
drip because it's been so bad this season that like
every week it's what's his future? Well, Tom Curran had
something NBC Local, but then Ian Rappaport had something that said, well,
maybe not like it's such a slow rip, and it's
a slow drip.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's a slow drip, and it's sort of the opposite
of what you have seen what you had said with
the Jets and Aaron Rodgers where everything was being leaked
twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
The Patriots. You don't know anything about the Patriots organization.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
They keep everything quiet. But to me, I hate the
discussion that you know, Belichick is nothing without Brady. I
think that's completely not fair. And I think whatever the
breakdown is in Brady versus Belichick in terms of who's
more responsible for all those rings, I think when you've

(12:49):
had the career Bill Belichick has had in New England,
like he should be able to go out on his own,
like I'm going to be fascinated to see the wording,
and you know Bob Craft's not to come out not
going to come out be like he's fired. They'll say,
you know, it's time to move on, parting of.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
But for Bill Belichick to get fired, like Brandon Staley's
a guy who should be fired, Bill Belichick should not
be fired, Like it's the divorce is gonna be fascinating
to see.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I have you know, this is kind of what I
do for a living. I would say this. There's been
an expectation there that the end is near, and I
think it will be amicable. And I think the question
is just how it ends, and I don't think it's
gonna be I don't think there's gonna be any acrimony,
if that makes sense. I feel like this is in
the works and there's a big lead up. It's not

(13:39):
like he's gonna It's not like they're gonna go eight
to nine and lose in the last week and then
the next day it's like Black Monday, Like what do
we do? Like this has been a conversation for weeks,
for months, and I've heard others say it. I do
believe there are three people that know Belichick, Jonathan Craft,
Robert Kraft, because I know a lot of people in
that building and they'll ask me and be like, what
are you hearing? I'm like, what am I hearing? What
are you hearing? Well, we're not hearing anything. So and

(14:01):
current as good a local guy and it's good at
Patriots be in like twenty years, Like he is the
guy if someone's going to report it, so I don't
doubt his report that there.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Let me ask you this based on sources and what
you know, it's very anti Belichick to maybe like have
it announced. I don't know if their last game is
at home on the road, but you'd think they'd want
to have some sort of send off or final goodbye
before their last home game. That's not his style, Like

(14:33):
do you think the season ends? And then the week
after the season ends they announced it. Moving on, there's
no goodbye from the Patriots fan. After he won a
million Super Bowls, They're like, it's it's gonna be We wasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
For Brady, it wasn't for sug and Ryan picked six
against the Titans on a forgettable Saturday night playoff game
and then he never played. Will be great, It'll be great
for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
If Belichick goes to a new team, right, you know, starting.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Won't that immediately become a story where it's his next
whether yeah, trade he can do the on to Las
Vegas or whatever, just like on in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think he's I think as we record this, he's
seventeen games behind Don Shula for the record now the
stalking horse there and stake oars behind him. Andy Reid's
like twenty games behind that maybe, And like there's a
chance that Belichick devotes his entire next two years to
get in this record and then a year later like
read just blows right by him with Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You know, when I was a kid, I would never
thought Tom Landry would ever be losing coach and get
fired by the Cowboys. It's the BARTI Washington.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
It always ends ugly, dude, It always ends ugly.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
It always ends, you know, Emmitt Smith and a Cardinals uniform,
Not always, but most times.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
All Right, I like that we had three different answers there. Now,
do you guys want to you have a biggest or
favorite non NFL sports story from twenty twenty three that
stood out to you that you'd like to mention.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Go ahead, Pearlof, I'm going to go chalk. Since Peter
got Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. I agree with Sports
Illustrated Deon Sanders was the biggest story of this year. Now,
I think it's complex. I don't think he was the
biggest sports story necessarily, but he symbolized everything going on
with college football, nil transfer, portal celebrity. He brought this

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program was terrible, you know, brought in sixty nine guys.
And he also showed you know, you're a media podcast,
really showed a lot about the media. You had the
game where Gus Johnson was openly rooting for him against
Caleb Williams at USC. It just it spoke to so
much that is happening in sports. There were so many
distractions with it. I've never seen a story where it

(16:29):
was actually happening on the field. Was so layered with
so many other layers. And then Keenan Thompson went on
Saturday Live and just gutted the whole Dion experience saying, yeah,
we're the best team in the country. And Colin jos
on the weekend updates, so yeah, but you're three and three,
He's like, yeah, he was actively he was undefeated. There's
this lunacy around Dion early in the season, and I've

(16:50):
never seen a story like this, and I think the
impact is just starting to get felt. And I'm a
sucker too. I was totally into it.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Gotta be honest. I think we all were. And I
think to college football is where my head goes too.
I go to a couple months later, thought the whole
Michigan scandal and the way people were taking sides, and
then you had this like open strange part where Jimmy
again you're a sports media podcast. You had guys like Eisen,
and you have guys like Schefter and Tracy Wolfson and

(17:21):
their Michigan alums, and Taylor Lewan is all over barstool
and he's won, and Dave Portnoy's a big voice in
barstool and he's won. And then it became this like
Michigan us against the world, and Harball is a good guy.
And then you've got all the Ohio State people who,
whether it be you know, the Albert Brears or the

(17:41):
people who just in general is root for Ohio State,
you know, calling it as a different way. And it
all for me as someone. Now, my wife went to Michigan,
so I'll give that as a full disclosure, but like
it all just felt icky I'm like, I don't, and
then like the coach was crying and it was like,
you have to do it, coach, I don't. So they're
playing in a big Bowl game, hardballs back the whole thing.

(18:03):
It just I hated that it wasn't about the kids,
it wasn't about the football, and that seems to be
college athletics right now. So I'm pretty cool just being
in the NFL and talking about what's going on over there.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Plus also have like the complete disbandment of the PAC twelve,
which is you could have actually went there. I'm gonna
I'm gonna go with baseball here, and this is definitely
a New York heavy thing, but I think the Texas
Rangers winning the World Series is something that not a

(18:34):
lot of people pay attention to.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
But here's what I like about that. Go on.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Everyone thinks if you have the highest payroll, you're gonna
win a World Series. Everyone thinks if you buy the
best free agents you're gonna have that. It doesn't work
that way, especially I think with Baseball one hundred and
sixty two games, you need a high payroll to get
in the playoffs. Once you get in the playoffs, anything
can happen, so like we're seeing like the Dodgers giving show. Hey, Tany,

(19:00):
seven hundred million dollars is one of the dumbest things
I've ever seen. Now, it's not dumb from the standpoint
of business and branding and marketing, but I was under
the impression that if you own a baseball team, the
goal is to win a World Series. I was wrong,
because it's all really about marketing and branding.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
But if you want to win.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
A World Series, you give a player seven hundred million dollars,
you have to win like three World Series minimum in
ten years for that contract to be justified. And guess what,
the money does not make you win a World Series.
Who There is not one person on the face of
the Earth, whether they like baseball or not, who thought
that two teams in the World Series are gonna be
the Diamondbacks and Rangers. That unpredictability is good for a sport.

(19:40):
And it's even the finals. I think it was Astros Rangers. Dude,
you don't even have the teams or the NLCS whatever.
No one thought the Diamondbacks but the Rangers. No one
thought the Texas Rangers were gonna win the World Series,
all right.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
And that's good. That was the story of this the
year none. I thought you were it was, and you're wrong.
It was the Diamondback. So you're yeah, but you're.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Jimmy, they're not the team and who they have?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Max sus Where do.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
You that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
They didn't even pay? They didn't that that just enhances
my point. They didn't even it, they didn't even play.
They were both heard.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I can't get out of this conversation. Quicker, what's next?
You don't even know what? Call up John Hayman. I
don't know what do you want from me?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't want anything from you. I'm just telling you
what I think. I don't want anything from you.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
So you don't think that the Taylor Swift story is
a big deal. But you think that. I'm just curious.
I thought, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't I don't think the Taylor Swift story is
a is an NFL.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Story, Okay, that's all.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's a pop culture story and it's a nonsense story.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
But it's nothing.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You said Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott, and Bill Belichick. I
think you say Taylor Swift at.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
We say Taylor Swift name on Good Morning Football. The
responses are vitriolic.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Oh, people get mad at you still all.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Get that out of our show. Get that out of
your mouth. We don't want to hear it. And it's
not about Taylor Swift. It's to your point, Jimmy, people
are watching Good Morning Football. They want to hear about
the Jaguars Bucks game. They don't want to hear about
about Taylor Swift's new diddy. Listen.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I could go on about this for seventeen hours, but
you guys mentioned Aaron Rodgers, Dion Taylor st. I mean,
the story is what a complete embarrassment the media is.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's what the story is. But I don't want to
get it's too hard. I think the media is exploiting
Taylor Swift by showing her on the screen and just
trying to get a new audience and trying to plick off.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Exploiting is absolutely not the right word. No, not exploiting.
They're losing their minds for no. It's embarrassing it when
when a player of the chief scores a touchdown who
isn't Travis Kelcey and they.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Cut to her.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's how about on the Darius Tony penalty? They showed
her before they told you what the flag was It's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's embarrassing. The media has embarrassed itself. I have to
think these directors have been doing this for one hundred years,
like Rich Russo's Fox's director. I don't know who CBS
is or ESPNS are they be like Russo's been doing.
I have to think that there is empirical data that
like this, this is good. I think I think a
lot of new viewers are watching and they enjoy.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, I don't, casual don't believe that last second.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I do.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think there are some lunatic Taylor Swift fans who
are watching Chiefs games. Yes, But do I think someone
is gonna order peacock and watch Bill's Chargers on Saturday
night the night before because Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelce.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean, can we use our brains and just have
a little common sense?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, but Jimmy, come on, First of all, they've shown
restraint the second half of the season, if anything, I agree. Yeah,
they haven't gone as heavily.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, you know why, because he hasn't played well that's why.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Well. I love when they go to Bradley Cooper at
Eagles game because there's fun to see celebrities at games.
Look at a Knicks game. I think.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I'm not just saying they don't. I'm not saying they
shouldn't go to her. If she's in the suite and
he scores a touchdown, of course they should show her.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about throughout the
whole game for no reason.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
There she is. It's to the point of story. Baby,
just say yes? Is that how?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
But I understand, But I've compared this, but this I've
written this.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It reminds me so much of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The networks are not interested in the three of us.
We're watching the game no matter what. Okay, they could
no matter what they do. They could put the game
on it three p at three o'clock in the morning
and they could make it. You know, you can only
watch the game if your left leg is on your
chair and we're gonna sit there and we're gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
They don't care. I give you some try to get
the fringe fan.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Can I give you some advice? Shake it off?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Shake it off? I mean again, just embarrassing, like embarrassing. Hey, Jimmy,
all right.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Did Shelby real quick.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Can I get it here?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yep, it's yet.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's me the problem. It's me. I don't even know
the words.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Can Shelby go back and auto tune this to make
us sound better? Is that possible?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
No? No, you embarrass yourself. I'm going to leave it in.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, this could lead right into the next topic, which
is the media stories of the year, the sports media
stories of the year. Now, you're both biased because you
work in.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Media, so we have to take everything you say with
a grain of salt.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
But is there anything? Is there a story, a show
for anyone you want.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
To shout out?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'll go first, since you guys are thinking this is
your niche dude, I've got two things that need to
be discussed. One is the split personality of Steven A.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Smith. Oh, Blue Blue is nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
It's it's like it should be on the Spice Channel
his podcast?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Does that still exist? I don't even know he's giving
out but like the Scrambled Channel is listening, Yes, go on.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
He's giving advice on like what positions you should be doing,
what you turn offs, turn ons, breasts, butts like and
then he's on for his take, screaming about Nicola Jokic, what.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Is what is going on?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like I think I actually think he's setting himself up
to like leave his pen and do like a late
night show.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like he's clearly setting as a naive quest is fine,
but does that air? Where's the air? The YouTube? It's
a podcast, it's on YouTube. YouTube, It's just it's a podcast.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, Dark Company does it. It's great.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
What he discusses is off the charts.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, it's amazing. But you know what, though he leans
a little blue on you. Anyone in ESPN he'll say
something a little off color, not really not, but I'm
not surprised, like, yeah, not like that. What's the other one?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Not like this? What was the other one? I like that?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
And the other one is I do think I get
it very I get a sense.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And it's really happened a lot in the last couple
of months.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But it seems like there's a really big athlete versus
media reckoning. Come like Micah Parsons this week, doesn't want
to be criticized.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
From the media, from the media by the media. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, we're all of these athletes now, the Kelsey's,
Paul George, they all have our own their own podcast.
They put the narrative out there that they want, they
don't need the media, and it just seems like, oh,
Greig Popovich telling that taboo. Yeah, Cam Newton, that was

(26:39):
the one from Like, it does seem like it's going
in a bad direction. I don't know what's going to happen,
but it's not. It's not pretty right now.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, but it hasn't always. It's always been.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Different, is no. The difference now is athletes have their
own platform to fight back, tell their like Camwon Michael Like,
I mean, I do think.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm okay with that. Why I mean to me, it's
it's an open forum everyone. I'm okay. It's going to rise.
Likes playing careers better talking about quarterbacks than all the
people who criticize them.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Listen, I'm listen. I have no issue with it. I'm
just saying it seems like.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
The athlete versus media battle.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Is getting very more and more intense, and I wonder
if it's going to keep getting worse because athletes seem
like they don't ever want to be criticized by the
media anymore. That's like the big thing, like, how do
you criticize us? So, like I don't know where that's going.
But I also I don't know. I mean, if I
were a coach of an NFL team, I don't know
if I'd want my guys having podcasts during the season.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think that left. I agree, you're right. You know
you're right. It's tough. You can't say, you can't say
boo because there's interest in it. And uh yeah, I'm
not as I don't want to say threatened as a meeting.
I almost I almost welcome it all because it gives
us more fodder. And if there's an original thought, like
the Cam Newton take this week was actually really well

(28:04):
thought out eight minutes, nine minutes, he I, I to me,
it was. It was something that people responded to. Then it,
you know, became a conversation about whether a game manager
then be, whether there's gatekeepers in the media and what
that means, because look.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
The issue isn't that had that take. The issue isn't
that Kim Newton had that take. Kim Newton then gets
annoyed if people disagree with the take. If you're gonna
put a take out there on a podcast, people are
allowed to disagree with you.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Sure, yeah, former acts don't take criticism as well. That's
a fact. But that's okay too and current Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Don't take criticism either, honestly, when someone comes at me.
That's true in my I do. I think a lot
of us do in the media, so like but it
is Mike Greenberg, I'm sure he'd be upset too.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
My only pidty is if you're gonna put out opinions
and takes, which you're entitled to and you should do,
people are going to disagree. You can't just be like,
oh my god, you know you're not you don't have
the right to disagree with me.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah. It's but as they get older, they're like Michael
Parson's gonna get closer to actually being in the media.
I think he'll chill out a little bit because, like,
like Richard Sherman was combative as a player, and then
when in the media immediately I think like Parsons, when
he gets older, will realize it's a game, like you
gotta have back and forth, right.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, that's like doctor doctor Ann Rodgers knows it's a
game now. So now he's just playing a game every
week with McAfee.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, and he's amazing so much he knows like he's
strung the media.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
He knows how to string the media along and they fall.
The dopes fall for it and write everything he says.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
How about related? How about honest Tom Brady? What do
you guys think of candid Tom Brady kind of going.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I can't wait for him to go to fight. He's
gonna be Shreger's partner next year. I'll be working with
on Fox.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I thought his take on the the CAZy suspension for
the season was in real time. It was really like good.
I thought his comment about quarterback play being at an
all time worse is really good. Uh, Jimmy, I heard
you and Salacatta talking about it on your mail bag.
I don't know if it's a three man booth. I
don't know if it's a two man booth. I do
know that, like Brady has been watching the NFL this

(30:02):
year very closely, and I work with Gronk and Edelman,
and like he sends them his notes like he's in it.
It's not like he's gonna just like pop in and
be like, hey, I'm Tom Brady, let's talk about my career.
Like he studies the game so curious to see what
he is. But I like the fact that he's honest
and candid. We'll see once he's in the booth whether
or not he could do that in real time or
these are, you know, just kind of things he can

(30:23):
kind of percolate on and do as thoughts after the fact.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Psychoanalyzing Tom Brady for a second. That thing about how
quarterbacks today are not protecting the receivers, that's one finger
point of you, four back of me. I'll bet you
if you added up the number of concussions anybody's ever
given receivers, Tom Brady has to be number one. Why
do we say that Wes Welker basically called himself the boat.
I mean, come on, but Brady worked the middle of
the field. Look at the Edelman play in the Supermoril.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
He let him write, you sound like Alex Smith right now,
like you're outraged.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I'm just saying I'm not outrage.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I wouldn't knock right.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Right, No, no, this like I know, of course you
wouldn't knock. Yeah, I mean, of course you wouldn knock Brady,
he's your co work it out. But come on this,
Tom Brady to say that take like they were not
getting guys killed back then seem funny to me because.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Brady all together his point is that the owners would
be on them if he got his guy hurt. It
would be he would be hanging his head and they
would crush him and say, you can't throw that pass. Nowadays,
it's the league says, oh, he can't be going for it,
like there's nothing Casey could have done. And Casey doesn't
have a bad reputation in the league and he just
lost three game checks.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
So you guys are missing the entire point of this.
I think, if I may, and this is what I've
been dying to talk about this, I'm so glad you
brought it up. Here's what I love about this. So
here you have Tom Brady worth I don't know what,
five hundred million dollars maybe more, who knows, greatest quarterback
of all time, possibly single, possibly dating Arena Shike, who

(31:47):
knows what's going on. The man can literally do anything
he wants in the world, and he's leaving comments on
an ESPN Instagram page.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Blows me away.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
If you're Tom Brady, why would you even have the
Instagram app on your phone? You're Tom fucking Brady. You
should be above, leaving comments on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
He's in the muck like all of us. Now, he's
just one of us. Bigs are like us.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
But Peter, you know him a little bit. He seems
like a kind of down earth guy, right am I ye?
Like maybe he's not.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
He's not different, Like he floats a little bit, like
in that, like he's kind of this like celestial being.
We'll see once he's grinding.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's really, he's really, he's really down to earth. He
helped open the Fountain Blue last week and played craps
with Justin Timberlake.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, he's really. I think he's down to earth and
that like he's a guys guy and everyone can hang
out with him and everyone. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Yeah,
Like how many ex Patriots have I worked with over
the years, whether it be mccordy's or even like end
of the roster guys, and they all swear by Tom.
So yeah, I think. But I'm curious. Obviously it's a grind.
It's an eighteen week season. I think he'll be flying

(32:51):
a different way than I fly. I think he'll be
living a different way than I live. But you know,
doesn't matter. Week eleven, when you're going to lambeau Field
and you gotta connect, you know, through an airport, and
you're calling a game and it's ten degrees and then
the next week it's Thanksgiving and you got to be
in Detroit. Like it's a real grind. So we'll see
if he's into it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Can I give you, guys, I'll give you one of
my shorties. It's related. I think it's been percolating for years.
But the fact that there are two gatekeepers of all
NFL news right now became a public thing this year,
Dove Climban and Ery Mayroff I hope I pronounce here.
And the fact that Garrett Wilson tweeted this year. I
actually pull up the tweet and I wanted to read it.

(33:30):
I ain't gonna fake it. I thought Dove bro tweet
was a newsbreak. I was waiting for, shaking my head.
I don't know anything. Sorry about that. When Aaron Rodgers,
he thought Aaron Rodgers signed, and all these players always
quote tweet Dove Climban, who's an aggregator on Twitter or
ex I just think it's really interesting. And then it
became a big controversy because my buddies, Boomer GEO made

(33:50):
a big thing out of that they were in New York.
Who is Dove Climban? Just the interesting way media has changed,
where the gatekeepers of the news might be aggregators.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Andrew so good, what a comment. Someone put it this
way to me. It used to be anonymous sources we
used to roll our eyes on. Now it's anonymous reporters.
Like the amount of times I get so frustrated, Jimmy,
I'll have a I'll have a textuk a reputable person
in the NFL and be like, see this and it's
it's a tweet from a from a site I've never

(34:19):
heard of, but like it's got sixteen hundred k likes
and the players all and it's bullshit. And I'm frustrated
because I consider myself a journalist and a newsman, And
like there's other times where I'll say something on air
and I don't I'm not one of those guys, like
I didn't get credited, but like it's on one of
these sites, and then I'm not. You know, I'm not
saying Dove in particular or any of these guys, but
there's a million of them. It's the anonymous reporters now

(34:41):
and we're all in the same muck of Twitter where
it all just gets in the same Now, Jimmy, you
seem like you want to You're gonna contend this to
me and pearl This is real.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
No, listen, I love that pearl Off brought this up.
This is why I love doing this podcast. I love
that he brought that up. But this is so absurd
because it just shows you how the number one problem
in this world is how dumb people are.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
It blows me away.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Those guys don't report anything anything they tweet. They say
from Adam Schefter, from Jay Glazer, from me, and they
don't report anything. They always tag the person who's reporting it.
So the fact that people are so dumb to think
those two guys are the reporters makes me weep for
this country. Let me tell you they're not the reporters.
Let me take it from the reporters.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
What shifter's name? Take it from the reporter's side. Oh
my god, I can say that would be one thing.
I could say something on Fox. I'm gonna give you
a different side of it and why and why it's shocking.
I could say something on Fox NFL Kickoff, which has
three million viewers. Can I just give a little plug
to our show Fox Sunday Mornings. We beat ESPN handedly

(35:48):
last week, like we do, right, Ryan, Well, we get
very good numbers and it's a real show and it's
on Fox, and it's got a huge, you know, talented cast.
I'll say something and in real time it'll be breaking news,
but it might not get the same kind of traction.
If Dove Kleinman is watching my show and posts the
video of me saying it, or he reports that I

(36:11):
said it, which I respect. The hell of the fact
that he at least tags me and all this stuff,
It'll get twenty thousand views in a million different comments.
So they amplify news and what Pearl's saying is right.
They might not break the news, but they can kind
of be the steering of the ship of like what
gets off and what doesn't take off because every one

(36:31):
of these players and fans follows them. The amount of
Jets fans that text me as real friends of life
who aren't in the end, I'm like, did you see this?
And it'll be from a source and I don't even know.
I mean, I expect that from that Jet fan. They're deranged.
They're not sane individuals. But like Diana Russini will post

(36:51):
an article on Saturdays, I think it's for her weekly
article on the Athletic, and Dove will tweet out every
nugget she has. Hell, he'll credit her and it and
you know, it becomes in the news cycle. And I
don't know if she just posted the article and tweeted herself,
if that would be the case. So there is. They
have a purpose and a value. They amplify and they
kind of steer what people in the in the general

(37:14):
population are reading. Maybe not, but when texts, you look
for the byeline everything they read.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Well, when you have someone text you that, do you
write back and say you're an idiot. This isn't from
Dove climates from Adam Schefter.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't yeah, no, yeah, it says Adam Schefter. So
you're part of the problem. You're part of the problem.
But educate people.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Those pretty good. There's actually a couple of sites that
have a lot of followers that are less reliable and
a little looser. Yeah, I have no Dove on DM.
I don't never matin. But you're saying, yeah, I swear
he's been communicating with me for years and he's more responsible, right,
he does credit. There are some that actually go Uh
one that gets criticized, allowed to say NFL rookie watch

(37:55):
says some things on there.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Does a NFL rookie want? I don't even know it.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Uh, I know it because a lot of I like that.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
You decided to come on and give the names of
the ones that are not reputable and put out all
the garbage.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Kid, Yeah, yeah, I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Don't give me the names of the ones that are
not good.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, it's well, anyway, they'll go with Luciers. He's like,
there was actually I don't even know who had this report,
but remember the report that Marvin Harrison Jr. Was offered
twenty five million to stay at Ohio State. That was
then amplified by somebody and became a big thing, and
it turned out it probably wasn't a real thing.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
The one that I don't want that, I don't want
that real I think it came from h our guy
from part of my take PFT commenter, and he wrote
in the Athletic font that Josh McDaniels dressed up as
Mark Davis for Halloween and the reason he got fired
is because he's a big Halloween guy and PFS was involved, right,

(38:49):
and the amount of people that just run with that story,
and like legitimate people texting me.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I don't want to make a dosh turn, but I
find it right, That's where I get scared for society.
So everyone covered that, but no one covered Chandler Jones
saying that Josh McDaniels helped killon Aaron Hernandez. Why did
that story just come and go? I would have liked
to see a follow up on that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I didn't know that. That's great, I mean, you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Chandler Jones was saying, like there was some that Josh McDaniels,
go see what he did. He was involved, And oh
and Aaron Nandaz didn't till himself in jail. Someone murdered
Aaron Hernandez. You don't remember Chaylor Jones saying, well.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, exactly right, that right that we just let's get
who cares about that? I don't. Obviously, Chandler's going through
some stuff, so I don't think we want to obvioreens. Wait,
and where's why he's not helping? All right? There are
there people helping him? Try it. Let me give you
two two little things for me, I'm gonna shout some

(39:49):
stuff out one. We always do these ends of the
year awards, and awful announcing does it in big lead.
And sometimes I wonder if I'm even in the same
sports media world as some of these givers and nominees,
and I'm just like, okay, And to my discredit, maybe
I'm on a show for three hours every day. I
also have a podcast and I also work on the
Fox Show. So I don't live in like the Lebttard

(40:12):
world as much as some of these voters do. So
I don't know all those references. I don't live in
some of the other worlds that are out there, like
the gambling sites have all their stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I live in the draft role. I think Daniel Jeremiah
is so freaking good, and I don't see his name
on any of these lists. I'm a colleague of his.
I think he's funny. But Jimmy, this guy in his
mock draft before the draft said the Houston Texans are
going to draft CJ. Stroud with the second overall pick
and then trade up with the Arizona Cardinals to get

(40:41):
the third overall pick. Take Will Anderson and said it
as clear as day, that's exactly what happened. And then
on top of that is a fantastic draft analyst. I
know we love Kuiper and McShay and ESPN has the
lead stuff, but I would just say one of the
guys that never gets mentioned. And it's not because I'm
patting him on the back, but like, the draft is
as big as anything in this world. But because it

(41:03):
happens in March and April, we give these awards out
in December, we forget just how good he is. So
I think that's one thing.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think the problem there is there's just so many
people who do mock drafts that it sort of gets
warded down the best.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
At what he does. I'm so head and shoulders above
everyone else that it's like criminal that, like he doesn't
get mentioned. So that's just that's one thing because I
live in that world. The other one's going to be controversial.
I don't know what controversial.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
It's not gonna be as bad as to fake NFL reporters,
but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I think Carrissa Thompson deserves a lot of kudos for
the job that she does, hosting two the most prominent
studio shows in the NFL Sideline reporter drama. Aside, Carissa
corrals that Nutball crew on Thursday Nights, which is full

(41:57):
of personality with Sherman and Whitworth and and our guy
Fitz and Tony who I worked with, who is all
over the map and great and amazing in a lot
of ways. But Chrissa does that and then three days
later is on with my dumbass and Edelman and Woodson
and Vic and Terry Bradshaw wandering into the set and
Strayhan coming on over and she corrals us. I think

(42:19):
Chris is one of the best hosts, and because of
this Sideline reporter thing from the like, she just got,
you know, totally discredited. But I'm gonna say, as a
colleague and as someone who's watched her work for years,
one of the best hosts and does it on two
different shows. There's only four or five big pregame shows.
She hosts two of them, and it's great and is
well liked. So I'm not going to get into the

(42:40):
journalism side of it as much because I think she
took her beating and everyone got her pound of flesh
on that. From the work, Chris is really good at
what she does it never gets mentioned in those conversations.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I only have one issue. I will check, but I'm
ninety nine percent short.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
You did this last year, did I? I rallied the
fly magic. So you really like Chrissa two years in
a row.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I just say what I felt. I think she's the coolest.
I'm a huge fan. I thought that was really kind
of I hated that story about the silent reporter. I
knew how that must have been really tough on her
because it up again, because.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
It all, it drags it up. I didn't want to
get there. I think it does.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It was sort of misrepresented by everyone too. I think
it was overblown in a weird way. But anyway, Yeah,
I'm a big fan as well.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
It's all right. You find out when you do. When
you know, people reveal themselves. So now now Chrissa knows
what people think of her and who thinks what, and
you know, you take your list. That's what I would say.
It is a fascinating. Good god, Oh, let me just
think on Chris.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
It is.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
It is a fascinating thing to see when someone messes
up or you know, you maybe think that the I
just think it becomes such a snot like I think
it happened with Romo, where like everyone decided Romo's not
good anymore, so then it became a thing. They're doing
it now with al Michaels, Like now it's get on

(44:00):
there and say al Michaels sucks.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Guy's been doing this for like.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Like I think so, I think so many people don't
even believe what they say it and they just want
to just chime in and sort of just be part
of the group.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
That's what I think. But go ahead, what were you
going to say?

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I think a one media trend that's been existing. I've
heard Peter, You've talked about it too, And I'm going
to credit Dan Patrick, my former boss, the Ensemble Cast
sports show that Dan openly credit Howard Stern for you know,
broad in characters that they're called the dan Etts on
the Dan Patrick Show Strong Strong Frontly with Dan. Now
McAfee has recreated at the guys are out, McAfee are awesome,

(44:35):
and Big Cat and PFT. Now they've built much like
Dan built this beautiful palace in Chicago and the guys
around them are amazing. And I just think this idea
of this universe of a sports show to elevate to
beyond sports where you want to see the interaction and
there's just so many talented people. And you know, I
credit Dan for that trend. But McAfee's awesome. The guys
around him are awesome. Big Cat is amazing.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Rich Eisend's on this to some except I just love
this something that's social film and.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Jimmy, you'll love this the show within the show. So
everyone says I love Stern because of his interviews, and
they do. I love Stern because of the drama between
sal and Richard and Ronnie and like that's the stuff
that I love. The office stuff and Barstool does a
really good job of it. Like Portnoy, I don't know
him at all. I've never met him. He'll just bring
it up like I think this guy might get you know,

(45:21):
this guy's like being lazy at work. And then they'll
have like episodes about it. And then Big Cat will
bring up you know, here Rico Bosco and like here's
what he did and he messed up. And this is
stuff like the office politics stuff that's a very Howard
Stern thing of like what's going on behind the scenes.
And I think when you live and die and I'll
live and die. But when you live and breathe with
these shows like It's juicy, it's good. So I do

(45:44):
appreciate that ensemble stuff, but that lives beyond the three
hours you're on air.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I need to interrupt for some breaking news. What do
you go This is breaking literally happened within the last
thirty minutes. We have a tweet from Josina Anderson two
dove climbing.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Okay, go on quote.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
If you're going to use a reporter's content in your
tweet for your own engagement slash money, please don't bury
said reporter's name at the bottom of an extended link
that has to be clicked in order to discover who's
the report actually belongs to. That's not the same form
scene on your more recent tweets. It's your timeline. But
that's basic courtesy of my opinion and the least you

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could do. And Justina Anderson to dove climb in your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Just Seena's on the ground. She's often in a locker
room late on a Sunday at one in the morning.
She's doing the work. She just wants to make sure
that her work is being represented. I feel it I
get it, and I just felt like she was listening.
It felt like she was listening in on this podcast,
and yet I didn't see whatever, just seene it probably
were fined. But but if Dove had tweeted it out,
I probably would have saw it. So it's this double

(46:54):
edged sword you want the Dove clicks.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I saw it because Andrew Marshan retweeted it and wrote
a great let's see if the pylon comes it could
be a Dove climbing pilon day.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, but I'm glad we brought up the topic before
that tweet, so we knowing that we didn't steal it.
But uh yeah, first of all, yeah, uh I think
don't pretty responsible. I'll bet you, he says, I'm sorry,
and I'll try and put the name up higher and
listen if you guys ever getting a fake A fake
Adam Schefter tweet is the worst, by way. That's my
greatest fear. I've walked into the studio at times in

(47:26):
the morning be like, can you believe this story?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Mccordy in real time? Jason mccordy just sent me on
and said, come on, j Mac, get better than that.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
I've gotten.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I had it last week where I saw tweet. I
sent it to my buddy Salakata and then realized it
was a fake. Had to retext and be like, this
was fake. Thank god he didn't because I didn't put
it on tw it. I you know, I'm careful with Twitter,
but I thought it was real, so I texted.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
It too it it was like it was and it
was so bad.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
It was like it was a tweet from some fake
account that said Tommy DeVito got in a fight with
the Giant social media staff because they wanted him to
list his favorite Sopritos episode.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I was like, look this wait, I want all right.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
So, picking up about the ensemble cast, I will say
I always feel like I'm in a very small minority,
like a one percent audience that I've always said, like,
I love love sal and Richard and JD to death
on the Stunt Show, but I prefer the k Rock
years to the series he too for the reason, for
the reason you said he would be fighting with the FCC,

(48:31):
fighting with Tom Cisano that created such amazing and then
within the group with Jackie and Baba bu like that.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Well, there's a little bit of a rebel feel to it,
which McAfee still has yes, And that's why I think
McAfee's appealing in a lot of ways, because Pat will
take on these same ESPN bosses that are paying him,
you know, gobs of money. He'll say, well, you know,
I'm probably not supposed to say this, but I'll say
it anyway.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, Dan does that too. Dan takes on ESPN, He'll
take on a lot of people, of these guys to
PFD to I mean, yeah, I think you're right. You
have to have a little bit. Levatard will go against
the establishment. Those guys do a lot of that. I
think you need a strong lead too. By the way,
that's a given, Like you can't just have a group
of dudes, and maybe you need a strong lead. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
It also helps in the case of in the case
of Barstool, it helps that when you're not affiliated with
any leagues like McAfee, I think he's.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I think even.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
McAfee probably has to be a little bit careful, but
like Barstool, they don't have to worry about anybody, so
they can do what they want. But a lot of
these shows, you know, Lebratard is going to be a
different show now than when it was a ESPN Dan
is very lucky. Dan Well, he's tighten with NBC a
little bit, right.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Dan is he's independent still large degree.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, but there's always if he's affiliated with NBC, he's
always going to be a little more careful when it
comes to NBC, just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Ye tell you something that I enjoy. I like segments
on podcasts now and I'll tell you like there Ryan
Roussillo with his crew, they do that life advice at
the end of theirs. I love awesome that. I love that.
I love you and Sal And I know it sounds crazy,
but the train of thoughts and when you and Sal
just talk about Sal's search for a house, like it's

(50:19):
legitimately like something I really look forward to on a
weekly basis and I appreciate. I know that sounds crazy,
but like that stuff where it's behind the curtain a
little bit. Another one, you know, Simmons with cousin sal On.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I was about to say, parent Corner is like comfort food,
Like I know, it's amazing, So there's something.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
To that too, the ongoing like relationship between a couple
of people and they have like they pick up stuff
and that's again that's all credit to Howard Stern, right, And.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I have to show if we're going to go on
this road, I have How can I not shout out
the mad Dog for what he does on First Take
with that what I'm mad About segment?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
You're you like the mad Dog? I didn't know that, Jimmy, Jimmy,
I keep it hitting.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I think you deserve keep it hitting a commission the
way you tweet about mad Dog. I love him too.
We grow up with him, obviously, But I'm here because
I don't. I don't watch First Take because I'm on
air also, and I guess it's just whatever, but I
see all his stuff via you, which is really the
amazing nature that we're living in.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
The lego system.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Someone at First Take was smart enough to realize he
just needs his own segment where it's it's called what
I'm mad About and he lists three things he's mad about,
but it's like all over the place, like it could
be you know, his gambling loss and you.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Know Taylor Swift and all that.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
So the gummy thing was amazing.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
The gummy thing was amazing, And the only thing I
want people outside of New York to understand is like
that is not an act.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
It's not an act in any way, shape or form.
You and I discussed it early on when he was
going on first take, and like people were like upset
with this. I'm like, I don't think they don't even
get it, like right right, you know I would text
like they don't get it. Yeah, I'll say it in
New York like, uh, I think that the morning show
that they have Boomer and like I think Sal's really

(52:10):
good on radio in New York. Geo's really good on
New York. I like, I like, I don't know Geo.
These are the things like I have no dog in
this fight, but like I love when when guys I
can't really and I don't really have that personality. I
like when guys shake shit up and like Russo does it,

(52:30):
Sal does it. This Geo in the Morning will do
it like he'll take shots at when it's so in
the weeds. But like a Geo versus Gary Myers fight,
like that is so New New York. It's so nasty,
but like that is that is entertainment in a lot
of ways, and it's real and it's they're no one,
They're being authentic, and it's like people It's a nice

(52:52):
diversion from the real stuff that matters in the world.
Which what I what I like.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
What I like about the Boomer and Geo show is
and this is what I've always said I liked about
Good Morning for they don't take sports that seriously.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
That's what I like about it. I mean, when you.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
See some of these people the way they talk about sports,
it's like, oh my god, you gotta relax.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I brought this up.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I just want to say, I brought this up last
week with Marsha like the people destroying I mean destroying
John Morosi because he said show, hey, O Tani was
gonna sign with the Blue Jays. Okay, So, like the
dust settles, the smoke clears, let's evaluate what happened. John
Morosi said he was going to sign with the Blue Jays,
and he signed with the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
It's okay, We'll be all right. And guess what if
no one reported he signed with the Dodgers, we would
find out.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, yeah, Boomer made Boomer consistently makes fun of how
I walk, and I have a major issue with that.
I walk it in the morning at six am with
Boomer and Geo. We always walking together Geo's the greatest.
Boomer just shreds me every morning.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
What's the problem with your walk?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
I swing my arms like this. I have no idea.
I walk funny and you have to. And Peter, you've
been rather like Boomers an alpha male. The dude's about
six y five in playing shape right now, and he
walks in and he's the kind of the loudest person
in the room, and so like, I immediately like, I
revert to high school. Oh, the high school quarterbacks making
fun of me. Where Boomer's here. He's perfectly nice, by

(54:11):
the way, but he's also it's just like Boomers a lot.
He is really like a big personality in the morning.
Geo is it's awesome too.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I'm going to cut that clip of you saying Boomers
a lot, put it on Twitter, talk about I want
to give a show.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I want to mention one thing too. I'm not going
to mention cool plays that you do or angry runs
that Kyle does. Because everyone knows I love you and Kyle.
You and Kyle kame on all the time. You guys
have open invites, like what you say about Russo about
me and Russo, I get that.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
About you and Kyle.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Everyone knows I love you, Kyle, so I want to
say that I do love Jason mccordy.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
The Fit listat segments, Jimmy, why don't you let the
listeners know? Because some people don't know. I read this
awful announcing in this big lead, and I don't see
anything from Good Morning Football, and I'm just wondering if
anyone is in the same ecosystem as me.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Go on, Jimmy, you ever going to make their list
if you keep trashing them?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Jug and I just we have a great show three
hours a day all season long. Will you give us
a love?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So NFL players, when they get to their stadiums on
Sunday mornings, a lot of them are in ridiculous And
I don't mean that in a negative way. I mean
that in the positive and negative way. Ridiculous outfits, flashy outfits.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Jimmy is in a hooded sweatshirt right now. Good, No
one's coming to the stadium just like this.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
So what Jason mccordy does on Tuesdays is he recreates
the looks and calls it the fit List, but also
breaks down what people are wearing, their bags, the colors,
everything about it. He had the leather pants on a
couple of weeks ago. It's a really good seg it's
a really funny I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
You saying that. I gotta say, yeah, I'm sure you
would speak the same about Maggie, like the Cordy is
a great, great co host, and it's a fantastic sophomore season.
Like Breakout Star. I know mar Shand wrote about him
and Devin, they're both awesome guys. I watched Jason every
every day. I think he's really interesting too, Like he's

(56:14):
not reading stock answers, he doesn't read stats. One of
the problems with the ex player, uh, you know, path
and media is you get in there, you make your splash,
and then the second year, like what are you gonna do?
And there's a there's a tendency to go and just
read stats and and say, well, you know when I played, like,
I think Jason's unique. So I appreciate you saying that,
and I think he would love to hear that. Also.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I ask one more podcast question, real, yeah, what do
you guys? What's your take on the celebrity interview in
the sense that Peter I love like you had Hakazari
on when Yeah, the Jets and Jimmy. You have a
lot of celebrities on and some Dan Patrick when he
interview he had Ker Russell and his son on, and
I love it. That was awesome. Rich Easen has all
these Highwood stars and it's always really interesting. Do you

(56:56):
guys like the non athlete interview or do you I
think that like the sports show should just stick to
putting the athletes on.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
They absolutely should not just putting sports people on. Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
No, yeah, absolutely my number one. I'm pissed.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Wait, I just want to say anything. I'm pissed because
I saw this morning. I think it was part of
my take had Zac Efron and Jeremy Allen White, who
were in this movie The Iron Claw about the von Ericks. Yeah, absolutely,
you need to put those people. Like any sports show
that just has sports people, that's dumb.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
It's just dumb. My number one most downloaded podcast now
obviously The Nailist Star was when I had Paul Rudd
on for two hours, so like people do love hearing
it now, I'll be honest, you know, the SmartLess podcast
with the Arnette and Bateman and Sean Hare, like I'll
look at the guests like I'll scam over it. If

(57:51):
I'm not really into whatever the guess is, I'm not
going to click Mark Maron, I listened to a lot
like if the guest isn't someone I care, but that's
what anybody.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah yeah, Conan O'Brian that genre as well.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, so like Conan, like if it's like a comedian
that I want to hear, like, but if it's someone
I know, so it does matter. And in the sports world,
like I had to sound, this is gonna go one great,
Like I don't have a lot of current players on
my podcast by design.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Yeah, and that's a Colin.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Coward type deal thing, where like they're great to talk,
Like if you're a current player, you're gonna be guarded
by nature. You're probably not gonna open. There's very few exceptions,
like a George Kittle talks, a Baker Mayfield talks, a Micah.
You know those guys, they'll talk and they'll be you know,
Max Crosby's a great guest. They're probably best in postgame
interviews or on the studio shows like Good Morning Football that,

(58:40):
But like for a long form podcast discussion in season
I would almost much rather have the celebrity who's going
to be candid and talk about their fandom than the
player who's going to be reading message points and trying
to stay away from controversy.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah, Peter, you know you actually interviewed Paul right. I
didn't know that Jimmy liked mad Dog Russo and you
know Paul Rutt. That's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Whatever, Paul, all right, hey, all right, hey, you know
where we had lunch the other day? Do you know
where we were? Parly? I love this Clark Steiner right
there on car one of the Hello.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Hello and invite I I lived near Peter. But the
fact you'll love this Peter I walk into the other day.
We haven't gotten to this yet, and my daughter goes
to me, is that the guy that you were watching
on Jeopardy? And I'm like, yes, yes, that is because
I made my family sit around watch Peter Schrager on Jeopardy.
That's my highlight of.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
The You're having a heart to heart. When I was
trying to get a run in and you and your
daughter were walking around Brooklyn Bridge Park, I don't want
to interrupt. You were like having a good daddy daughter moment.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I could tell Yeah, yeah, my daughter likes to go
on these long walks and have like it, like the
Jimmy Carter Peace Summit. Talking. Yeah, we got to talk
about Jeopardy at some point. That was the best thing
that happened this year.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
We did a whole podcast about it. So cool about it,
Debbie Gibson, we covered it all. Right, let me let
me go to this, because let me go to this.
We've talked a lot about the sports media, sports in general.
Give me non sports, non sports, what did you enjoy

(01:00:08):
this year? Show, podcast, movie, anything, If you want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I have a list. Oh yes, TV show The Bear
season two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Well that's on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
So right off the bat, you screwed a lot of bands, Screa,
we agree, we're friends. We get it. A lot of
people are hesitant on The Bear because they feel like
they missed a boat. You didn't their half hour episodes.
Only two seasons, only two seasons. The soundtrack is amazing.
Season one is a great season, Season two is incredible.
The cameos are amazing. I will go and I will

(01:00:43):
specifically say that I had a near heart attack during
the Knives episode. But then the very next episode, which
was Forks, is maybe the most greatest thirty minutes, greatest
thirty minutes of television you ever see. I walked away
crying and just like just upload and ready to, you know,
crank up some Taylor Swift and go drive around Chicago.

(01:01:05):
That was one. Can I give you some more? Yeah,
I don't have to hurry, take my time. Monday Mornings
Puck where John orand just left and went. There is
a podcast from John Kelly and Peter Hanby okay, where
it's called Monday Media Mornings and they talk about big

(01:01:28):
picture media all the different like acquisitions. The podcast called
The Powers that Be, but it's all about like what
Zaslov doing, What's going on at CNN, what's happening. I
find it from an NFL insider standpoint to not have
my ten toes in that world to listen to these guys.
John Kelly kind of runs that whole Puck organization, which

(01:01:48):
is great. I would suggest Monday Mornings there. I still
love Simmons and cousin sal on a Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I think that is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Quickly a couple other have you heard of We Might
Be Drunk? Have you guys heard of that podcast? It's
I think I have actually Sam Merrill who's a fantastic comedian.
I know Shelby. Yeah, you probably know Sam. Sam's of
a New York comedian and Mark Norman. They do it
once a week. Great, and then I would be fascinating
you guys. Do you guys know who Stobby is? Stoppy Baby?

(01:02:15):
Do you know Stoprosno? Okay, that's it. Stovey's world. Stovey's World.
It's a little blue. It might not be for everyone. No,
he's this comedian, that's just no, I'm saying a show
podcast podcast. But he goes on and has other comedians
on and it's like it can go anywhere. But they
do the same thing at like Risillo does. They do
like life advice. They have people call in and they
go from there. And then last monotonies. We mentioned h

(01:02:38):
all the sports stuff. But I'm a SNL from back
in the day. Dana Carvey and David Spade. Now Dana
Carvey is dealing with a horrible tragedy right now. I
think they're kind of on hiatus. But David Spade, Dana
Carvey interviewing. Oh, it's amazing, flying the Wall and it's
like everyone from Sandler to Chris Rock to you name it,
from recent years. Those are some of the things that
I like to divert my attention from when I'm not

(01:02:59):
thinking about ankle injuries and contract negotiate.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
A great Listah, Tyler Swift, great list.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Great like Taylor Swift, I'd love to have her on
my podcast if she wants, I go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Real quick, I'm gonna just take all the coolness out
of this podcast. Say, the last season The Crown was awesome.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
In that or not, I don't think so, okay, but
uh it's over right, like it's just it was a
series finale they did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
This season where Diana I and Dominic West from The
Wires awesome as Prince Charles. Just a couple of podcasts.
I'm curious if you guys listen to this cover three
on CBS and the College Football Podcast is really popular.
Canals the name on there, but everybody Chip Patterson but
Dyarre were great, GM shuffled with Lombardi and Feme. You
guys happen to listen to that Mike Lombardi's take if

(01:03:45):
you need takes, that dude. That dude does takes. You
might not agree with all of them, but he is
not shy about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
That's like a weekly listen. You'll listen to these guys
like they come and they pop up on your hot feet, come.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
In, Yeah, choose. I want to hear Lombardi because he's
got a strong up and he's obviously connected to the
Belichick family and he knows what he's talking about. Uh,
these are friends Sam and Steve. I listened to the
pff NFL podcast, pretty popular. It's a pff A couple
other uh my boss Spike Eskin has a six Ers
podcast called The Right s Rickey Sanchez, which is wildly popular.

(01:04:16):
Every team's got a podcast, and there's such a good,
good set of them out there that I can only
give out the Philly Ones and then the Red Scare.
I think I mentioned it last year. It is maybe
the most controversial podcast out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
That's what what's her name?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
What's the woman from Successions? A. Yeah, So they just
did for example, they just did a half hour and
Henry Kissinger's death. That was the most different thing I
heard about Henry Kissinger. They're brilliant, they're funny, they're in
politically correct, and they make people mad, which is an
incredible skill and also too, It's just there's a lot
of the same out there and as Peter said, something different.

(01:04:52):
So that one stood out to me this year, Jamie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
So you guys are so eclectic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
So you mentioned two of the things I want on
did dimension, which was The Bear season two, and like
Peter said, if you have not watched The Bear, don't
be intimidated because it's only two seasons and there a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Half hour each episode, so you can get through it.
Like Pearl said, but it's like I didn't watch one
episode yet. I feel like that's a that's ten summers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
But I will say this about the Bear. No, no
phone in your hand. Phone's got to be down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
You got to be locked in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Can I miss something? I can't watch The Bear. I
get too anxious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I get it, I get it. It's I know, I know.
It's a TV shows. It's not a diversion. It is
you have to invest.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Like it's like Curb. I know Curb's coming back and
it's so cringey.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I got it. Oh stop grow up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
And then my favorite thing, my favorite thing that I
watched this year you mentioned earlier as well. I have
never ever listened to the SmartLess podcast, but the six
episodes they did on HBO was by far my favorite
thing the tour. It was really I laughed at I
laughed throughout the entire thing. Jason Bateman will on ed

(01:05:58):
Sean Hayes. There is I think there are only six episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
That are an hour each. It's on HBO Max. And
it was sweet too, like our nets kids came and
visited and like they stayed with them. Like it was
really good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
I just the entire So the way the podcast on
HBO worked is it would be an hour and the
first half hour would be them getting ready for that
night's pod live podcast taping, and the second half would
be the podcast. My favorite thing was the first half
hour where it was the three of them bantering, and
the entire half hour, their entire banter is all about

(01:06:29):
eating and shitting. That was was the greatest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
It was so good. And then there is a podcast
go on called Not Today pal Okay. The hosts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
You will know the names are Jamie Linn Sigler and
Robert Eiler.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I love it. They talked, Sopranos are everything, both both
so pranos and Robert Eiler was, Okay, have you heard
of are You Garbage? Have you heard of that podcast?
These guys are guys are a locomotive right now. It's
two comedians. It's called Are You Garbage? And they just
talk to other people about their childhood and you go
through the childhood and it's like, did you have a

(01:07:10):
refrigerator in your garage? What was in that refrigerator as
a kid? Like did you go did what kind of
what was your local supermarket called? And then they determined
at the end of the podcast whether you were your
garbage or not, like are you trash or not? Robert
Eiler came on that it was telling life stories about
when Sopranos was at its peak and like going.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Out in New York City, and I was, yeah, you
would like their pod, you would like interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I listened to imperially and uh Sharipa doing the recaps
of the episodes when I rewatched Sopranos last year, and
I thought those were excellent too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
The other thing I want to mention it wasn't a show.
I mentioned this on the pod recently, but I was very,
very lucky to see Bill Burt Madison Square Garden back
in November.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
How was it. I can't describe how good it was.
I just can't, like, I think comedy having a moment
right now. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I laughed from the minute it started to the minute
ended NonStop.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Why does it feel like it's I? Is it because
we need it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Why does it feel like stand up comedy is now?
Like it? I watched the Nate Bergazi special. I'm crying, laughing,
and like I needed it. I'm like, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I was actually down on stand up comedy for a
little while because it felt like everyone was doing this,
Like it felt like every stand up comedy show was
about people getting canceled, and it's just that topic got
so Like Bill Bard, I don't think he mentioned the
word canceled once in the two hours he did, Like like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Like he get two hours? Two hours?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
It was all I think he he was on for
I think more than an hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible, Bilber.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
No one's ever had, and no one has ever had
the ability to have a two way conversation with one
person on a podcast like Bill Burr doesn't the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Monday Morning podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
He's talking to himself be like oh hello, yeah, then
he has to ask himself a question, and it makes
it I feel like I'm listening to two people. I mean,
he's a he's a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah, see I And that's my problem, Like when I
watch that is like, obviously you want to hear what
he has to say, and you're trying to laugh and
get something. But I'm also I'm riveted by the act
of doing it, like how he went in a hotel room,
the voices like yeah, like the process is fascinating as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
There's a whole there's a whole crop of these young
comedians in New York right now and in Austin and
in la and like, I think there's something brewing. I
think this is gonna be a good decade of like
you know, and it's black, it's white, it's woman, it's
every like. I think every like it's comedy is having
a moment. I think we need it, honestly, Like it's
good to laugh. And there's no movies that are funny anymore.

(01:09:44):
You're not allowed to put out a funny movie, and
very few shows are actually funny anymore. It's insane what's
happened with movies. It's insane. I think I've been to
I've been to the movies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Once since COVID, not because of like COVID came so
you don't have to and you start, I've been to
all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Yeah right, yeah, but Barvey, but for your Oppenheimer though,
it's the comeback. I think the success of those two
movies is gonna spur a lot of theater movies. Barbie
was a comedy. I mean, they're gonna try and recreate that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
The only movie I saw in the movie theaters was
the what was the Jordan one? That was great air
and Matt Damon with Matt dam that was telling you,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
The air experience. So my wife, but my wife's best
friend got married Courtney. Hello. Uh this was in April
and we went down to Florida. We just had a
new baby girl, so this is the first trip we're having.
It's like two months from from having a baby. It's
finally we're away and she's a bridesmaid in the wedding
and it was in Florida. So I wake up at

(01:10:43):
nine am and one of the other, you know, husbands
of one of the bridesmaids text me's like, what do
you want to do today? Like, I haven't had this pearl.
Like kids, you don't have days where it's like he
goes there is a ten am showing of Air at
a movie theater that's walkable in this you know fort Law?
Do you want to go? I go? Are you serious? Bro?
That sounds like the greatest day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Can I just interject one thing. I can't do a
movie at ten am, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Not only did I do the movie at ten am,
I got a giant Starbucks, a Trent the sized iced coffee,
and a tub of popcorn and watched Air. I swear
to god, I walked out of there. I'm like, that's
the greatest movie ever. I had said the time of
my life. Like I was just pure joy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Oh like, I love this movie and I'm so glad
we brought it up because that should be on my list.
I double checked it was twenty twenty three, so Air
was definitely one of the best things I've watched this year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
But hey, yet the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
I'm really looking forward to Iron Claw next week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Sports documentaries oversaturated and you saw the Florida documentary was
the beginning of the downturn of the entire night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I didn't even watch it. I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I didn't even watch Like you guys didn't watch it.
It was the most disappointing documentary.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
About irbit Meyer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Well, because it's the most fascinating team if you had
an outside documentary, I mean at Aaron Hernandez, at Percony Harborne.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I'm not done with sports documentaries. I just think you've
got to have the right filmmakers and the right people
doing them. It can't just be anyone, you know. Yeah,
it doesn't need to be produced by the athlete about
the athlete. I'm kind of what other ones?

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Did you want to mention prolof?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Well, no, that was my point. Yeah, yeah, Actually I
kind of like the Johnny Manzel, but they should not
have and Jeter too, Like I thought Geter was too
close to it. You need it outside. I love Marty Fish.
We talked about it last year, the Marty Fish having
a breakdown in the cab on the way to play
Roger Feeder. They're not doing that anymore. Now it's these
vanity projects. I think it's a shame because with all
these streaming services, sports socks were getting awesome and now

(01:12:33):
they're getting sort of sort of watered down by the
producing being from people like you know, the athlete himself
should not produce his own documentaries.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I watched the Johnny manziel one. I thought it was awful,
and I didn't watch the Florida one, so can't really.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I didn't see the Kelsey one. I didn't see the
Barry Sanders one. They're pretty fine films, so I should
probably see him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I heard Barry is good, but I'm very widely.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Viewed, and like it seems like everyone likes them. But
you know, same thing. It's just it says a lot
of content.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I'm amazed that you guys watch all that you watch
with your hours. You're both on in the mornings that
you know, you got games at night. I don't know
how you squeeze all this stuff in.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah, yeah, the games. And by the way, I just
switched your morning show, Peter, we have to have an
offline media. How you got it for this long?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Did it? You did it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
It did no, But we were nine am Eastern. This
is six A. He's on it six yeah at six am,
so it's a different animals.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
So you're downtown, downtown Manhattan is where it is. Yeah,
trybeca Okay, so what at that hour the community take
a car You're ten minutes away. Yeah, so it's all right,
let's end it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah, go ahead. I say it's time halftime a Raven's
Chargers and you're looking at an alarm that sets off
in five hours.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Jimmy me, Oh yeah, I know the story. Dude. All right,
let's end with this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Give me your Super Bowl prediction and final score. I,
for the record, will say that this week I put
twenty dollars bet down at plus thirteen hundred on a
Bills Niners.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Yeah, good one. Oh, Peter, you go first real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Is there any way that it's not going to be
the Niners?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Let's talk with that. Is there any way it's not
going to be the Niners?

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
No, it has unless like McCaffrey and party get hurt,
like to take out injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Jimmy, As you know, I've predicted the correct Suer Bowl winner.
I know, I know. I've hear five years in a row. Nice.
I'm on a television show, so it's there. I pin
my tweet every year. I currently, as we head towards
this stretch run, and I'm sure this is airing probably
a week from where we're recording this. YEP, I currently
am looking at a Kansas City Chief's remaining schedule of

(01:14:39):
the Raiders. They have not played that game. Yet on
Christmas Day, the Chargers, and I think the Chiefs and
oh the Bengals in between, and I think the Ravens
and the Dolphins could start plucking each other off. I
think there's still a chance that if the Arrowhead Invitational
for the sixth straight year, I picked Chiefs over Niners
back in September before the season, I will not budge.

(01:15:03):
I am not giving up on reading Mahomes. As great
as all these other teams look in the AFC, when
rubber hits the road, Patrick Mahomes has never proven me wrong.
I am going with Chiefs over forty nine Ers in
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
So that's is that what?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
That's what you predicted before the season. Yes, And I
had Christian McCaffrey as my MVP before the season. Pat
and the back you said that on this podcast. We
had ahole conversation about that. I wish if I were
doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah, my preseason pick. I'm gonna stick with my preseason pick.
Then it's going to be Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC
and of course the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC. Because
some idiot watched preseason too closely and thought Kenny Bicker
could sling it and they were seven and four with
two games figures two and ten teams. They were headed
to the number one seed. God did I get burned

(01:15:51):
by that? But I go, if you gave me mulligan,
I'd go Niners Ravens kind of a hopeful one because
I want to see it. Yeah, I mean listen obviously
retroactively we saw Monday Night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I like that we have three different AFC teams in there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Real quick, Jimmy, can we just do quick shout outs
as the year is over? People that we thought kicked ass.
Mike Tia kicks ass. You never talked about him on
your podcast. I think Tarico's fantastic. It was not two
weeks ago, you know. I talk about genuinely. Everyone gives
Iron Eagle to love, and we get Joe Buck to love,
and I love those guys. Those are like brothers to me.
I want to throw to Rico in the conversation. I
want to give my colleagues Jamie, Jason and Kyle much love.

(01:16:29):
Good Morning Football's as good as it's ever been, and
we like doing the show every day and they're just
bringing it. Jamie's about twenty five weeks pregnant. She's hauling
her ass in from Jersey every day and she's kicking ass.
And I want to give my Fox NFL kickoff people, Edelman, Vick,
Carrissa Woodson, and our producer Jeremy Minnew some love.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
So that is that is Edelman's great. Edelman should be
a big media star as far as I'm concerned. He
came on the pod before the season.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
He was great. He's very amusing on his podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I think the good guy too. We hung out a
lot off camera Humble Bragg, but he's a very good guy.
Gronk's a really good guy too. Like these are good guys.
And I'll say it, there's not a lot of Jewish
football players. Julian Edelman is one of them. And it's
a very, uh politically driven time right now. And Julian
Edelman is very proud to be a Jewish American and

(01:17:20):
speaks about it openly and says, if I can inspire
any Jewish kid to be proud to be a Jewish person,
Uh that that means a lot. And I think that
goes a long way and is it discussed ever, but uh,
I respect it and Julian wears it and lives it.
And breeds it and much respect to him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, Patriot's Hall Famer Andrew Tippet converted too. I want
to point out that I saw that. I want to
do a shout out okay like that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Like like Rod Carell, thank you, Sandler than you. I
only know that because of the same O J. Simpson
not a Jew, We'll do a shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Okay. Well, can I just you know that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Wait, I'm just since you said that O. J. Simpson
is do you know that O. J. Simpson is on
a podcast like alone?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Does he do it with Mason Cameron and those guys?

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
That podcast is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I don't listen to the clips are amazing when they
read they read Cameron's yeah message to Nia Long Like
that's epic shit. That's why I like where I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I can't support a podcast that's gonna have I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
I don't I mean about a subscriber. But I saw
that clip and laughed.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Oh I shot DP DP show. Paulie Seaton, Fritzie and
Marvin Still top of the game, Rich Eyes and Chris Brockman.
My guys, big Cat, the only person who says nice
things about me in the Big time National Media, and
Maggie Gray is amazing. Your friend Jimmy Peter, you got
to come down to our studio one day after your show,
and are you'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Gend me a car service and get me some carbone
afterwards and maybe I'll consider it, no kidding, of course?

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Are you represented by DeVito's agent? Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
And all my new friends because I'm right next to
Fa and you got WT love it. Your buddy Salacatta
Boomer is awesome, Go's awesome, Tiki Barber's awesome, Brandon Tierney's awesome.
Uh and the CBS Sports radio crew is unbelievable. And
a lot of cool people in my boss Spike guessing
because if I hadn't do that, I might have to
bosch Chris sal Vero and my mom and my cousin and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Shout out if I was gonna say, I Shelby knew
this was coming. I haven't played the Oscars music and
have you, But.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
I know the thing is, I'm panicking who did I
leave out?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I didn't worry about who it was. But I'll show you. Yeah,
I'll show you how to do this. Watch this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
I'm not giving any shout outs, that's all that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
My shout outs are for the people listen to this
podcasts and the people come on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Can I tell you what I appreciate. I appreciate your podcast.
It comes up once a week. I always listen to it.
I also like we don't have to kiss my no
no no, I like I like mar Shandon, Ora and Oran.
I hope they keep doing theirs. I'm a sports media wonk.
I love that stuff. Uh So, here's to those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
You really should have a media podcast. You have opinions
on everything I do I do. Maybe maybe in the future,
can you have this media podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Though? If you're on Fox and NFL, guine generally pretty
pause you know what it is, Martin Short, the late
Charles Groden. Those guys were known as being great late
night guests like Johnny Carson would have g I go
on Simmons, I go on with Treina, I go on

(01:20:19):
with Coward, I go on with the part of my take. Guys,
I like fancy and myself as a great guest. I
don't need to be You're a good guest. I enjoy
coming on and uh I like playing that role, so
I'll be I'll roll with Charles Groden if that that makes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
You bet Charles is boring. Mark Short is the one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Albert Brooks, but I an eagle. Iron Eagle told me
he's my Martin Short, so you got I'm happy for him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Did you guys see the Albert Brooks documentary? Yeah, the
Ultimate Guest. Yeah, I know, Peter, You're always I'll listen
to you anywhere. Jimmy, your your podcast is awesome. Your
is my favorite to do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
We have a Dove Kleinman appreciation. I'd like to thank
the for all his work.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
And he's uh duves trying to get the knife from
Josina Anderson out of his back right now. We gotta Peters,
anyone signed offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Peters, anyone more honest than Jimmy on Twitter though he
can't not be himself like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I think is pretty honest too. Andrew don't give him
it either.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Like, uh yeah, I'm not as honest as you. Jimmy.
I appreciate that because people have been asking you to
be something else for a long time and you've refused
and it has worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
I would like to be more honest, but activation that,
like maybe I can live in a different eCos like
sometimes I see not the list or they, but like I,
you know, I don't know all the stuff that other
people are watching as far as like I'm not up
at you know, certain hours, and so I just know
what I know what I like, and I just hope
I can offer her a little commentary on what I
do know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
You know, No, you're You're great. That's why you have
an open invite. You guys, come on any time, and uh,
this was fun as always. It's the we think fourth annual,
but maybe third, but probably fourth an end of year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
We got PJ. Clarks next summer. Guys, we'll do that
one too. Yes, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
We're always like we always like, let's hang out in
three weeks and then we see each other four and
a half months later.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
What is going on there? That's all right, you guys.
You guys work at six am. That's why. All right,
I gotta wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Shrager, Good Morning Football Fox on Sundays at eleven am.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
What's the name of your podcast, The Season with Peter Schrager.
I'm really proud of it. I love it. Yeah, all right,
that's it. I'm giving you a plug.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Pearl Off, Maggie and pearl Off CBS Sports Radio. You
only have one gig. Usually people have more than one
gig in this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Bines No, I got it, I got on gig. Yeah,
you can get us obviously. Podcasts and I CBS Sports
Radio YouTube is a wonderful experience because I'm more about
it's the handsomeness more than the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Jimmy, let's get Salakata house before the end of the year.
What do you say, Well, I'm nervous about salad. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
People can hear about Sala's house in the previous episode
of the podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Got a mortgage. He's read to get his own How
this sounds like like hell? But I love it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
All right, Happy New Year, Thanks for doing this, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Happy New Year, Happy new Year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
All right, take care?

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Thanks all right, My many many thanks to Peter Schrager
and Andrew Pearloff. They are tremendous, great friends and very
entertaining podcast guests. I can't thank I'm for doing this
yet again. Hope you guys enjoyed it. If you are
not a subscribed to SIMTA with Jimmy Trayna, hit the
subscribe button and check out recent episodes. Last week was
an all train of Thoughts Mailbag edition with Salacatas, so

(01:23:30):
give that a listen. Aw wrestler MJF was on the
pod recently, as well as WWE wrestler Seth Rollins, Andrew
Marsha and Booger McFarland, Mike Erico all recent guests on
SI Media with Jimmy Trayina. So listen to those pods
and again please subscribe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
All right, Happy New Year. Hope you guys have a great, healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Safe twenty twenty four and we'll see you next week.
Stay safe and take care

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
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