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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. What else is going
on? Time four? What's happening? Well, we did the story a
little bit earlier and talked with FredRogan, dean of LA Sports. You
can go back and listen on thepodcast, but we talked about the death

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of NBA absolute legend Jerry West.He had been working as an advisor to
the Clippers for the last several years, before that the Warriors, before that,
the Memphis Grizzlies, and then obviouslyand iconically with the LA Lakers during
their showtime period in the eighties,responsible for, or at least given much

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of the credit for putting together ShaquilleO'Neil and Kobe Bryant for those great teams
in the nineties. He is athree time inductee, or i should say
will be a three time inductee intothe Basketball Hall of Fame, once as
a player, once as a memberof the Olympic team, and then once
as what they referred to as acontributor for his time in the front office.

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You referred to Fred Rogan as aDean of sports. Jerry West really
the Dean of the NBA. Imean he was the logo Lebron James.
I mean so many tributes online,take your pick, but Lebron James.
Of course, he put out atweet right away basically saying, you know,
thoughts and prayers with your wonderful family. But then he says, my
mentor my friend. Hopefully I continuedto make you proud. You are already

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missed. And I played earlier thecharacterization of him of Jerry West in that
show Winning Time, based on theShowtime book, but it had to be
on HBO, so they couldn't callit Showtime right, played by Jason Clark.
Jerry West character. It was afantastic character. Yes, wildly entertaining.
But Fred said pretty inaccurate. Yeah, he said he was an intense

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guy. Yeah, but he reallydid have the quiet demeanor. Elon Musk
has dropped a lawsuit against Open Aijust ahead of what was supposed to be
a hearing on the case today.It was back in February that Elon Musk
sued Open AI and their CEO SamAltman over what he said was a betrayal
of Sam Altman's founding aim of benefitinghumanity rather than pursuing profits. Musk said

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that when he bankrolled the creation ofopen AI, he secured an agreement with
Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, thepresident, to keep them as a nonprofit
that would develop technology for the benefitof public and then keep its code open
instead of walling it off for privategain. And he had claimed that,
in fact, that's exactly what theywere doing. We don't know much about

(02:38):
why he dropped this. Necessarily,any he didn't or anyone representing him in
this case didn't show up at thestatus hearing today. UCLA, we mentioned
this earlier, has named its firstLatino chancellor. UCLA has said that doctor
Julio Frank Friend Frank ever f RE NK, former member of the Cabinet

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of Mexico as a matter of fact, former dean of the School of Public
Health at Harvard, current president atUniversity of Miami, unanimously approved for the
job by the uc Board of Regents. Seventy years old. He'll replace Gene
Block, who wraps up his seventeenyear run as chancellor when he steps down
July thirty first, and Frank willbe making ninety seven thousand dollars. No

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no, oh no, no,no, no, no. Ninety seven
nine hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars, just under a mill I wonder if
he had any pause though, giventhe demonstrations that UCLA has endured of late,
you know, he's already in therunning. Obviously, this wasn't decided
overnight. And do you think hesaw some of the coverage and was like,

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maybe not. Well, I mean, obviously in the end he decided,
you know, I got this,but it's a lot I think that
well, he would be like everyparent whose kid applied to UCLA and was
planning on going to school there inthe fall. Yeah, there'd be some
second guessing, Yeah, some buyersthere. There's a lot that has been

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written about California's pot economy, andthere's a couple of different things that go
into it. You know, whenwe voted to legalize marijuana here in California
for recreational purposes, there were alot of people who said that this is
going to be an absolute money maker. It's a great way to bring in
tax money, et cetera. That'sthe green gold mine, the green gold

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mine, the green gold rush,whatever. And there have been problems with
it. It's not what anybody expectedit to be. When sales first opened
six years ago, twenty eighteen,a multi billion dollar industry grew, I
mean out of almost nothing, atleast legally. Yes, there were medical
dispensaries that you could get stuff out, but they had to go through the

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process of getting a prescription from aquestionable doctor sometimes, or you just buy
it on the street like you usedto and then go to old days.
And then the COVID pandemic actually gavethe pot market a boost, at least
early on twenty twenty one, becausewe're at home, what are you going
to do? Yeah, one ofthe industries, one of the few industries

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that got a boost. Alcohol wasanother one. Yeah, you know,
yeah, for good or for bad, I mean, alcohol was another one
that got a boost. But potsales peaked in early twenty one and have
not recovered since. They have continuedto slide down. This is not an
endorsement one way or the other,or a suggestion that that means that there

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the whole economy is going down.But it's a question for those you know,
those business owners, those legitimate businessowners who are trying to figure out
what's going on. Overall sales muchlower than the estimates from pre legalization had
predicted. And for the thousands ofthe pot business owners who invested on the
assumption that this thing was going togo quickly and keep growing, all of

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it is disaster. By the endof twenty two twenty one, the over
invested market was dealing with not enoughpeople who wanted to buy pot. So
is it that attitudes changed? Isit? Part of it may have been
that. Part of it has Ithink been a general fear of you just

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don't know what's in it. Alot has been said about I think it's
a school in San Diego, SanDiego State University, you see San Diego.
Somebody has a facility now that isinvolved with testing and regulation just in
terms of labeling THC content, thingslike that in individual packaging. And I

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think that there has been enough discussionabout stuff like fentanyl in drugs that people
are just wary, a little bitmore wary about where it is. They're
gata even with marijuana, even withmarijuana, and even with marijuana in stores.
I mean, okay, the legalizedstuff, that's that makes sense.
I just think more on social mediaapps like Snapchat or you know, on

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the corner market with a drug dealerthat's a mookie. But I just think
that there's a general fear that seepsinto the legal market. So more than
ten thousand businesses were launched joined theso called green rush, and seventy percent
has the growers and the brands havedecreased by seventy percent of late. And

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a recent report found that the potcompanies owe the state more than seven hundred
and thirty million in back taxes.And this is money that California likely will
never see as most of these companieshave already folded. They're going to go
and yeah, they're just going togo bankrupt. Is this also though,
an issue with federal and state becausethere's the legalization issue here, but it's

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not statewide. There's still a federalband, So does that I suppose there
could be some business end issues ofit, like where you're going to put
your money, how you and howyou deposit money, how you deal with
banks because a lot of banks areare constrained by the federal regulations. And
I also wonder if sort of theshine wore off because when you do something
illegal right, people are like ifyou say you can't do it, and

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you're like, I want to getthe marijuana, but then you say you
can. Okay, I'm all inon this green rationale. Eh yeah,
I've moved on. The fat Serensare sucking down gummies. It's probably not
as cool as But the tax issueis also a big one because there is
still an illegal market. There's afifteen percent excise tax on pot, and
when you add all of the taxestogether in terms of effective tax rates,

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it could climb as high as thirtyfour percent when you factor in the state
sales tax and local taxes on topof that, it's so much cheaper to
get it, you know, fromyour dealer or from a source that's not
registered with the state. And youknow there's an article in h I don't
partake, so I'm not. Ican't add any personal touch to this story.

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How much you spend on pot everyweek? Is that you don't have
a you don't have a good numberon that. Yeah, yeah, exactly
to handle on how much money you'redropping on the green every week? All
right, huh, that's time forwhat one is brought living color. But
you watching the Americans love television.They win their kids Usa television. You've

(09:24):
watching too many of those live televisionshows. I love these intros. They
make me laugh every time. OnNetflix, I have been watching Bodkin and
I think I told you this alittle bit last week. Bodkin is a
story about the town of Bodkin,a cute little village in Ireland. An

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American podcaster is teaming up with acouple, a writer and a researcher from
a newspaper in the Great Britain area, and they're investigating an old Halloween mystery
in this small town where a couplepeople disappeared in an old Irish Halloween festival

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that they used to hold all thetime. I like the premise, Well,
they're bringing back the Halloween festival,but no one really explained at all
whatever happened to those three people thatdisappeared when the original festival took place.
Wait, so, I'm sorry,is this fiction? Oh yeah, okay,
okay, yeah. So. AndWill Forte comedian, he was in

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Last Man on Earth, he didSaturday Night Live. He is the American,
the American podcaster here. And Ireally like Will Forte, and I
like the idea of the show.But there's something about it that's just not
coming together, not as intriguing asit sounds. I have an episode and
a half to get through the firsttwo well right there, to get through.

(10:52):
Yeah, that sounds painful, notthe way to say it, but
I have an episode and a halfbefore it wraps up. How's that There's
no way this comes back for asecond season. It's just it's one of
those where people have people, peoplebeing the producers and the decision makers at
these streaming services have decided that eightepisodes of a slog is better than two

(11:18):
two hour episodes or two or one, you know, two hour movie or
something like that. And it seemslike a lot of these shows that we've
been watching could have been done veryquickly, could have been wrapped up now.
Yeah, and then there's other showsthat they could go on and on
and I want more of, right, Like, I know you're on board
with Hacks. Yeah, those episodeswent by in a flash. Yeah,

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And that's part of what I thinkmakes that a show like that that much
more appealing, is they leave youwant more. You know, A thirty
four minute episode of something with goodwriting, good characters, good story is
a lot more entertaining and is morelikely to bring you back than forty eight
minutes of a lot of green Irishscenery, which is beautiful. It is

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beautiful, yep, never been there. Looks pretty but not a huge one.
Well, so what I'm watching rightnow Clipped. I started Clipped on
Hulu, which is on Hulu,and thank you, well, I love
that. I want access to thosebuttons. And this tells the downfall the

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story of Los Angeles Clippers owner DonaldSterling and the affair with the Staviano his
poor wife Shelley. This is oneof those that their quick episodes so far
just too well. Now three areout. The latest one came out last
night. I didn't I've been workingso I haven't had time to watch it.
But it is seems to be prettyspot on because this is something that

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happened relatively recently, right, andsomething that we covered and that you covered,
so it's you can just kind ofcompare how true to this and how
they bring it to life. AndEd O'Neill place, yeah, and he's
great. So I recommend that andthen Netflix, Oh, Netflix, back

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to Netflix, Baby Reindeer, finishthat up and I have whatever I give
it ten nats? Is that right? Sure? If you haven't seen it.
This is based on a true story, or they simply say it is
a true story. Now there's lawsuitsagainst it. It tells the story of

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Richard Gadd, who actually plays himselfin it, and he's dealing with a
female stalker and he it forces himto face a dark, buried trauma.
It is. It's really compelling,it's really dark in the fact that this
is a true story is pretty mindblowing. Yeah. I finally got around

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watching Fallout, Yes, and it'sa lot of waste of eight Out.
I was very disappointed. I'm abig fan of Walton Goggins and that female
lead. Its just precious. ButI just don't get it. See you
later, thank you. I likedFallout, but I also think part if

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you're not familiar with the original material, the fact, I mean it's a
video game, then I think it'sgoing to be harder to a harder sell
for you. Some Yes, canwe do Jeopardy? Oh you want to
get that out of the way.Yeah, I don't forget it because we're
going to forget it. Okay.Once again, the category is tasty business
for one thousand. Tasty business.Yep. This restaurant chain says, the

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only ingredient it uses that's hard topronounce is the pepper in its name.
The pepper and its name, Whatis chili's That was my answer, and
we both got it wrong. Itis chipotle. Oh yeah, I don't

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even think of it as a pepper. It's a spice more than a pepper.
It's the button's fault. We didstart watching after we got through the
first twenty five seconds of ridgardson seasonthree, episode one, we started watching
a show called A Man in Fullwith Jeff Daniels and Diane Lane. This
is also on Netflix, and it'sa store. It seems like it's built

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in the in the vein of succession, high profile, high power. In
this case real estate guy who iscaught up in a bankruptcy. He's got
a divorce in his past. DianeLane plays his ex wife. He's got
this new young blonde trophy wife.Is this Trump? No, it's in

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fact a set in Atlanta. Okay. So Jeff Daniels has this really thick
Southern accent. Oh. I likehim, and he's really good. I
think Jeff Daniels is really great.It seems a little too formulaic, like
it almost seems too hard, tryingto make it too soap opera e Oh
okay, where Jef Daniels believes thathe is sort of the you know,

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you can't touch me. I'm toorich and powerful and anybody who tries to
take this real estate empire away fromme is going to be squashed like a
bug. I mean he refers toone of the guys as a little bug.
So you got through one episode.One episode? Okay, it's well
done in that it's well written,but it might all it might be pushing
the It reminds me too much ofthe primetime soap operas from the late eighties

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early nineties, like Dynasty and ADoubt Dallas, things like that. Yeah,
so well. Nicholas Cage's new horrormovie debuts with one hundred percent Rotten
Tomatoes rating. It's called Long Legs. He is the serial killer being pursued
by an FBI agent played by mikeKi Monroe. Yeah, and who discovers

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a personal connection to this case.So I just watched in the break the
two minute, twenty one second trailer. Now, this is coming from somebody
who really likes scary movies, butthis is one of more the detective scary.
This isn't a Jason Voorhe's fright ofthe thirteenth type, So this is
gonna be suspenseful as we suspenseful.Yes, this looks really good and really

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creepy because I'm questioning the one hundredpercent rotten tomatoes. Is there such a
thing, But well, I'm allin on long Legs before white short legs,
before wide release. Yes, Ithink you can have one hundred percent.
It's when you start getting a bunchof people in there that don't like
it. But one one reviewer fromsomething called Bloody Discussing wrote this long Legs

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gets under your skin and stays there, immersing you so thoroughly in the repulsive,
discomforting nature of evil through terrifying imageryand a tactile atmosphere that it is
unshakable. It says, it feelslike a movie you've seen before, but
with an evil filter laid over it, which was both a weakness and a
strength. So that doesn't necessarily meanI don't know if that is one hundred

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percent right now. That's a mixedreview. Nonetheless, that looks good.
A couple things there were the fifteenbest shows on TV so far that have
been put out by consequence. I'lljust go through the top five good because
one of them I just mentioned isTop five, Thank you very much.
Mister and missus Smith on Amazon wasa great show, really well done,

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created by Francesca Sloan and Donald Glover. Donald Glover and Maya Erskin are the
two title characters in that. Aremake I guess you could say a reimagining
of the Brad Pitt Angelina Joe Leemovie long before the number four. In
this, John mulaney presents Everybody inLA. Did you catch that at all?
I did not. On Netflix atthe beginning of May, he did.

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I think it was six live showslive on Netflix that have been repackaged.
You can. You can watch himstill and it's just a tribute to
LA basically top and you know,kind of a new general topic for each
show, but he interviews experts onthat topic and stand up comedians and actors
and things like that that come throughthe studio. Showgun is the number three

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on Sorry on FX, which isobviously James Colvell's novel about the white guy
washing up on shore in did yousee this? I haven't seen it?
Okay. I talked about it fora long time and I just never got
our well everybody ranting and raving,including my husband, he did watch it,
and so in the Fox Love newsroom, producers loved it. You have

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to see it really visually pretty well, you know what I just I couldn't
get into. Yeah, it's oneof those where I don't know what the
math is to get me to pushplay on some of these things, because
I really wanted to see it andlike you said, visually stunning from what
the what the trailers look like.Number two on the list was Baby Rein

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Deer. Yep, you just watchedthat. Yep. Again it's dark.
It's dark, but it's captivating,compelling. And number one, number one
what X Men ninety seven? Huh? An animated version of X Men?
I would have preferred to say.Number seven was Hacks, which we both
like, and number six was CurbYour Enthusiasm, And those were Those are

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legendary shows, all right. Forsure. You've been listening to The Gary
and Shannon Show. You can alwayshear us live on KFI AM six forty
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