(06/27) GaS Hour 3 - #TechTalk

Gary and Shannon talk #SwampWatch, #TerrorInTheSkies, and Mark Saltzman joins for #TechTalk.

Episode Transcript

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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. The temperatures continue to
rise, and cal Fire says we'vealready had a significantly worse fire season this
year than last year. Last yearat this time only about sixty seven hundred
acres had burned six seven hundred thistime in twenty twenty three. As of

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this year, it's at one hundredand six thousand and growing. There's a
couple of fires right now in theFresno County area that are the largest you've
got. The complex of lightning firesthat started Monday burned over nine thousand acres
and the Basin fire at about twentysix hundred acres. Strange Science comes along
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Starting tonight, Dodger beat the WhiteSox for nothing. Tomorrow, Dodgers will
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HD on the iHeartRadio app Music keywordAM five seventy LA Sports. It's time
for swamp watch. Swamp is horrible, so government doesn't work. Man make
us like a reality TV shoot abad doos always a pleasure to be anywhere
from Washington, d C. Hey, Joe, A town all too clearly

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built on a swamp and in somany ways still a swamp. I have
a bunch of malarkey. Somebody said, drained the swamp. I said,
oh, that's soph You know thething. Well, some big polls that
former President Trump is probably in lovewith today, they are quite favorable.

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One of them Quinnipiac, Quinnipiac,Quinnipiac, Quinnipiac. We're going to get
corrected regardless either way. We shouldsay it call Magic Sparkles University. Magic
Q University released one last night,and among other things, it shows something
very very bad for Joe Biden andvery very good for Donald Trump. They

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said that in this analysis in theWashington Post about this Q University poll.
They said, the reasons that DonaldTrump appears to have a slight edge in
the matchup that the same one thathe lost four years ago, is complicated,
but sometimes there is a poll thatcrystallizes it. And this is the
specific question, if there were acrisis that put the country at great risk,

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who would you want in the Ovaloffice to deal with it? Donald
Trump or Joe Biden? Now,eight years ago that question or one very
similar to it, Hillary Clinton trouncedTrump by about eighteen points that same question.
Four years ago. Joe Biden didn'ttrounce him, but did have the
lead forty six to forty two percent. And in this one, it shows

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that fifty one percent of registered voterssay they prefer Trump to handle that kind
of a crisis versus forty three percentfor Joe Biden. To me, that
question is all about capability. Isthis person capable to make a decision?
Not will I like the decision?But are they capable of the job?

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You know, It's like, uh, will they do? Would you rather
have operating the forklift with you?Gary or Shannon? It's not about liking
Gary or Shannon. It's who's capableIn your mind? Of operating a forklift.
You're not that. That's not likability, it's capability. You would pick

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Gary to operate the forklift probably evenif you hate Gary. Plenty of people
do. You don't have to bringthat up. I'm just saying, you
know what I mean, That isa scary question. Yeah, because that's
not even politics based. Now,what's interesting is this analyst, like I
said for the Washington Post, pointsout that voters look at Trump's presidency now

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in a more favorable light than theydid when he was president. Well,
there's everybody gets that. There's gonnabe a lot of articles. The already
has been a lot of articles,and there's gonna be even more of people
and you can call it the liberalmedia, what have you of reminding people
in their words what a disaster thoseyears were, right, and again it's

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it's gonna be. You can pickand choose for any president almost at any
time, you could say, well, his presidency was a disaster because and
I expect Joe Biden to repeat oneof the things that he has said over
and over again, which is nopresident lost more jobs during their term than
did them and did Donald Trump.But you can't say that statement without also

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including the fact that we were ina global pandemic at the time and everything
was shut down. Yeah, thatwasn't necessarily Trump's fault. Now to that
point, though, you know theidea that who would you trust if the
country was put at great risk,and that happened during Trump's presidency in COVID,

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you could argue whether we were everat great risk if we didn't know,
especially early on, and a lotof people gave Trump negative marks for
the way he handled COVID. Butat this point they're so they so do
not like the idea of Joe Bidenhandling it that even with all of that
history, they do give Trump theedge by eight points in that I don't

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know if it's a matter if theydon't like the way Biden handles it.
I think that question proves that thereis uncertainty other if he could handle a
major event. Sure, that's agood way to put it. Now,
we've already gotten emails that had said, you know, I don't trust these
polls because the polls themselves they calllandline phones to survey voters, and the

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most common people, the retirees,the seniors, they're the ones who are
going to have landlines, and thoseare the ones who tend to vote conservatively.
There is no major polling organization thatsimply calls land lines anymore, none
of them. They all do whatis referred to as random dialing, which

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is just you get ten numbers andyou start calling, and that's it,
because they know that that's a betterway to get people. Some of those
are landlines, some of those arecell phones, but that's the way you're
going to get people is random.What are they called random order, random
SAMP, random dial random digit dialing, that's what it is, RDD,

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random digit dialing. That's the waythat they do it, and that's why
there's at least that's one of thethings that the polling organizations have learned is
not everybody has a landline anymore,and in fact, a vast majority of
people do not have landlines anymore asa result of that. So we'll talk
there's a couple of comments on talkbackregarding the debate tonight, and we'll get

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into also what the Supreme Court saidtoday out of Washington, DC, Gary
and Shannon will continue. You're listeningto Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty Tech Talk comes alongin a few minutes. Mark Saltzm's going
to join us. You could usemusic streaming services for free. You don't
have to pay for everything, andthey kind of differ on what it is

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that you can get as the freeversion of all of those things. Reminder,
you can hear the CNN presidential debatetoday at six pm on CNN and
simulcast right here on KFI. Hey, guys, threw the water and you're
drinking games. Screw the beer andyou're drinking games. Skip the crackers.
You ever heard of anybody overdosing frombong hits? Anytime they do one of

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those things on your list, justrip your bom. Yeah, now I
have overdosed on bong hits. Iremember it pretty sick. Yeah, I
remember feeling pretty sick. I remembergoing to a friend's house at lunchtime,
taking a couple of those, goingto chemistry sixth period. You had a
rough eighth grade. Man, Oh, it was dark times. I know

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you guys are kind of boomers,but just so you know, there's a
whole thing all over f's and allover social media for all the young people
and the boomers that have young peopleas kids at home. That there's actually
going to be on TV or onx Therealdebate dot com. And I'm curious

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as to if more people are goingto tune into that rather than CNN,
because they're going to broadcast CNN andKennedy's going to answer the same questions should
be interesting. We talked about ityesterday were our finger was on the pulse
when that crossed the wire. Yes, it's called The Real Debate. It's
going to be filmed at a TVstudio here in Los Angeles, and our

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FK Junior will be there. AndI'm not sure how they're gonna get like
I opined yesterday. Are they justgonna start the debate, pause it,
and he'll give his comments on whatevermatter subject matter it is, and then
they hit play again and those twogo and then they hit pause and he
is back up. I'll be interestedto see it, but more people are
not gonna watch it on x orthe Therealdebate dot com. Then we'll watch

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it on television. I'm pretty confidentin that. Hey guys, I have
one question. If there's no audienceright where is Newsome gonna be? Yes,
just in case he has to runon the state. I'm curious about
that. His specific thank you,His specific role there is to be a

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Biden surrogate, and they have themafter every debate, various Republicans and Democrats
that are in what they call thespin room, and the reporters will go
in there and they'll say, howdo you think he did? And they
sat it there and they you know, knob slobber. I've already gotten in

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trouble once today for Beavers, soI can't. I have to just do
hand motions at this point. Soin other words, uh, you're gonna

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can you predict right now what Gavenuswas going to say about Joe Biden's performance.
I think I think about seven anda half hours from now what Joe
Biden is a hero in this country. He is a stalboart of democratic goodwill

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and so masterclass. He has puton a masterclass in terms of tampering down
inflation and bolstering the economy. Whathe's wanted to do with the border would
be the answer, but it's thosemean Republicans and the Populis poison that make
it impossible for the Democrats to getanything accomplished at the border. California has

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done a wonderful job at the borderin my home state of California. We've
seen and then has go into numbers. He loves his freaking numbers. Good
morning Gary, Good morning Shannon.I have a quick comment. Uh,
here's a sad reality for this country. Yeah, we're either going to end
up with a convicted felon or abowl of potato salad as president. How

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do you like that, Apples,Actually, potato salad can be quite robust.
I make a mean red potato saladwith dill, and it's incredibly hearty
and strong. It's a strong dish. Newsweek came out with a headline that
said Donald Trump suffers a blow beforethe presidential debate. And the blow that
they refer to is that Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, did not

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vote for Trump in the presidential primary. How is that a no? What
he expected him to? Those twoguys went after each other. Oh so
I don't sit there and look atJack Kemp and what he does as an
arbiter of the way the country's going. Jack kempspin did for a while.
Oh what did I say? Yousaid, Jack, But it was Brian
Bryan excuse me, not related.Jack Kemp died. Huh, I'm sure

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he did, now that you haveme. Why would you say that,
because now I'm questioning whether Jackie hedied. He died quite a long quite
a long time ago, That's whatI said. Yeah, yeah, But
he shouldn't have He should be alive. I mean, he was born in
thirty five. He should be Idon't know, could be along ninety or
something. He died in two thousandand nine. Big decisions out of the

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Supreme Court today, there were acouple of them, a few of them,
I should say. First of all, the Supreme Court, on a
five to four vote, blocked anationwide settlement that would have seen the families
of Oxy Continent victims handed billions ofdollars because this payout would have shielded members
of the sack Eckler family from criminalcharges they owned the drugmaker Purdue Pharma,

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or owned. The decision reverses theruling they were going to pay six billion
dollars to settle thousands of lawsuits.But the issue specifically was whether that bankruptcy
law would allow protection criminal protection formembers of the Sackler family because they themselves
have not filed for personal bankruptcy.Supreme Court also five to four put a

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temporary hold on an EPA plan thatwould curtail air pollution that drifts across state
lines. That deals another blow tothe just basically the executive branch. And
then the Supreme Court dismissed a challengefrom the basically rejected one of the primary
ways the Securities in Exchange Commission andforces laws against securities fraud. That's a

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super wonky one. Then the onethat we saw yesterday that was released to
the website and then taken down veryquickly was the case of emergency abortions in
the state of Idaho. Now thelower court ruling stands where doctors do have
to offer or get to offer,depending on your view, I suppose emergency

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abortions despite the almost total ban ofabortions in the state of Idaho. Would
you like your Jeopardy question? Oh? Sure? Staring at movies for four
hundred dollars something about staring? Okay, staring st a I R shares got

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it? Staring young again. Roseascends a ship staircase to reunite with Jack
in this nineteen ninety seven film Whatis Titanic? Ding? Ding Ding?
I watched that on New Year's Evethat year, and we celebrated New Year's
Eve or the turning of the NewYear as the boat went down into the
Atlantic. It's not funny. Didyou know that birds with law dagger like

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bills use them for probing and impalingtheir prey. I didn't know about the
impaling. Oh yeah, you've neverseen a seabird go after a fish and
just so I guess whoa I suppose, and that little fish has got a
big hole in it, and thengo chop, chop, chop. We're
gonna do tech talk when we comeback to Gary and Chan. You're listening
to Gary and Channon on demand fromKFI AM. Six forty armored vehicles ran

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the doors in Bolivia's government palace yesterdayand what the president said was a coup
attempt. Eventually the soldiers pulled back. The retreat was followed by the arrest
of then Army Chief General Juan JoseZuniga, the Attorney General Opener investigation kill.
My father prepared to die, todie, and I don't think we'll
see him at all today ever.Again. iPhone speakerphone calls now the norm.

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Unfortunately, it's everywhere. It's wherewe kick off tech talk. The
machines are getting smarter. This istech talk right to you, skynatch.
Let's do a let's start this MarkSaltzman with a general etiquette question. Is
it ever appropriate to speak on aspeakerphone call in public? Never? Okay,

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as I hypocritically talk to you rightnow from the LaGuardia Airport, not
on speakerphone, but projecting my voicea bit because this is a you know,
a radio interview here. So butI found a quiet little nook to
do this. Yes, people aroundme may hear me, but no,
I don't think so. But it'shappening more according to a study at Carnegie

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Mellon University that we are using ourspeakerphones more in public rather than earbuds.
And there's a few thoughts as towhy you want to chat about this.
Yeah, all right, I mean, after all, no offense, Gary
or Shannon. I don't want tohear about your mom's recent doctor's appointment while
we're both in the snack aisle atRalphs. Mark. But yes, this
is at the Yeah, no,I said, smart, that's that's the

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Smartestmond so smart, I thought yousaid, Martin the speakerphone fail. There
we go. Okay. So thetheory is multiple, but the biggest one
is that it's a combination. It'sa generational thing. First of all,
is that this is happening more becauseof the fact that it's the me generation

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and that is a combination of maybenot as many siblings. You may be
an only child growing up. Itcould be a wealthier generation overall, So
our needs are are tended to givingus this sense of importance, you know
that whatever I say, everybody elsehas to hear around or being pampered with.
Again, the perceived importance of likewinning ninth place prize in a in

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a soccer game or a participation awardlike this, it's all about us and
all about me, and nobody elsematters as much as us. Unfortunately,
that's a bit of a you know, I'm not going to say a gen
Z thing because there are exceptions whatever, but yeah, it is apparently a
generational thing. Whereas gen xers babyboomers, they would often not talk,
you know, even though there areexceptions. I know there are lots of

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seniors who I see at airports whohave their ringtne extremely loud, but that's
you know, that's a different thing. Altogether. I think another theory is
that we're more engaged in the contentwe're consuming. Okay, so we're not
talking about talking, you know,chatting with your mom about her podiatrist appointment
and the her bunyan issue. Butby being on social media, we are

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more engaged in the content. Likethat algorithm is keeping us glued to our
devices, so we don't realize thatit can be heard around us, that
that ig feed or that TikTok videocan be seen or heard around us.
We're just so into it, orwe have fomo, we have this spear
of missing out, so we're gluedmore to our devices, even in public
places. But for the love ofGod, put in some AirPods or something,

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right, like I don't want tohear your you know, the latest
TikTok dance or something when I'm besideyou at Ralphson and then yeah, yeah,
I was just gonna say. Theother thing that's driving me crazy sometimes
is when people take a call onspeaker you're on speaking they take your call,
you're on speakerphone, and there's somebodyelse in the room, but they
don't tell you you're on speakerphone.Yeah, that's right, that's a good

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one. Yeah, yeah, Ihear you. That's a good one.
This theory, to me doesn't makeas much of sense. But according to
this Carnegie Mellon University report from theOrganizational Behavior in Theory Studies, is that
reality TV, which many of theyounger kids today have modeled some behavior after

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the stars of these reality TV shows. They are often talking on speakerphones in
public because they're shooting a show,right And when they're on the phone and
we're watching them on the phone,we have to hear what the other person
is saying. So we are,according to this theory, somewhat modeling that
and we think it's more okay tobe on a speakerphone in public. But

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yes, please don't. I mean, if anybody's listening to the Gary and
Chan show, just come on please, unless you're playing you know, iHeartRadio
Nights aloud in your car. That'sthe whole other thing altogether. That's a
good point. You also wrote anarticle for ARP about music music streaming services
and most of them, and Iliked the analogy. It's like in Netflix

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or Max or some video subscription.But the free version of it may not
have me as robust as the others. But what are some of the free
things that you can get from differentservices? Yeah, so, speaking of
iHeart and all these other platforms likeSpotify and Amazon and Google or sorry,
YouTube Music, most of them dohave a free tier, which is great.

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A lot of people don't know thatthey're coughing up between ten and twenty
bucks a month, depending on whetheryou want a solo service or you want
a family plan, or you wanta premium plan that lets you stream on
more devices simultaneously with better audio.Know that most of these services have a
free tier, which does mean usuallyads during or sometimes in between the songs,

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but they're not long. But justknow that that's going to exist.
You may not be able to skipa song forward as often as you like
if you don't like that track onsay Spotify, you're going to have some
limitations on how much you can skipforward. So you're going to be listening
like traditional radio, more of alinear experience. For the most part.
It could be lesser audio quality,which might be fine if you're not willing

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to pay, then that's I thinka fair trade off. And again things
like streaming on only one device ata time. But there are services that
I wrote about for AARP that arefree. One of them is Amazon Music
Free, which is great. Thousandsof free radio stations in playlists and podcasts
that are curated based on your taste. Apple Music lets you play songs like

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if somebody sent you, If someonesubscribes to and you don't, you can
still hear it, but just knowthat you may hear an ad before or
after what have you. Deezer,There's a dad Geo, which is more
for classic classical music fans. iHeartRadio, of course, has thousands of live
radio stations from around the country,including KFI, naturally and podcasts. Live

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One is great for those who loveconcerts and festivals. SoundCloud amazing for independent
artists and those who like DJ mixes. There's a lot of stuff you'll find
on SoundCloud that you will find others, and of course you know Spotify and
YouTube music. Again, these allhave free tiers. If you want to
google my name Mark Saltzman, Markwith U C. Saltzman with the Z

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and the words AARP and music streaming, you'll find this entire article with everything
you need to know. Awesome,great Mark, Thank you so much.
Appreciate it me too, Have agood one. Guys, all right,
save travels. Up next. Speakingof I don't know if I've ever been
accused of miss jen during someone.Well, you are not a very big

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extrovert when it comes to meeting astranger and talking about their gender. I
don't see what engaging in that conversation. Well, we have a terror in
the skies of a woman who claimsthat she was kicked off a flight for
misgendering someone. Is this about pronouns? It is? It is? It
is. That's coming up next.Gary and Shannon will continue. You're listening

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to Gary and Shannon on demand fromKFI AM six forty The CNN Big Debate
tonight, when Trump and Biden's squareoff. President Biden is a board Air
Force One en route to Hotlanta forthe presidential debate. News is he's gonna
stop by Magic City. Get someof those. I don't think that's gonna

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happen. No, No, Ithink that's fake news. Oh, that's
misinformation. He departed Joint Bass Andrewsafter spending a week at Camp David prepping
for the event. Trump is aboutto depart Palm Beach, Florida for the
big event. I would love tosee one of or both of them.
Stop at magic sitting, No enterthe stage or get on to the stage.

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Something like either a UFC fighter ora good boxer, like a little
like the robe. Maybe yeah,maybe a cape just just the gloves.
I love it. I love ita little jabs and stuff. What if
Biden comes out with the Mike Tysontattoo a face tattoo? Yes, that
would be pretty good. I gas. Oh. By the way, you

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can hear the CNN presidential debate todayat six pm on CNN and simulcast here
on KFI. I guess this isStephen from Riverside, Happy debate day.
You know, after thinking about it, I think I would choose Sharonon to
do the forklift with. I'm notsaying you would get done quickly, efficiently,
or correctly. Okay, now letme he chose interesting language there.
It's not to do the forklift with. It's well, maybe that's why he

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chose he. You know, afterthinking about it, I think I would
choose Shannon to do the forklift with, not saying it would get done quickly,
efficiently, or correctly. Correct Noshade, Shannon, but it would
be a hell of a ride,I think, all right, have a
good day. You all love youtoo. I think I would trust Shanning
over Gary what's operating a forklift,because I think Gary might panic and not

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know what to do. As opposedto Shanny, she looks like she'll be
able to handle a forklift a lotbetter. But that's just my opinion.
Sorry, Gary, don't think Ihate you. I like you. I
just think that I would trust Shannonall my life on a forklift over you.
Well, let me ask you thisway, if there were a trust
me with his life on that forklift, if there were a crisis that put

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the country at great risk, whowould you want in the Oval office to
deal with it? And we wereGerry or Shannon? Well, no,
I was just I was making theanalogy of it's about capability in terms of
not likability or policy or anything thatIt's just capability. That's what that question
means to me. That's what causedthe forkliffing. Man. You guys really
jumped the shark. I'm sure you'relosing a lot of listeners. You guys

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are just crazy, crazy, crazycrazy. It's it's not evedn't I don't
know, it's insane. You guyslost another listener, it's crazy. See
guys there, wait but just saycrazy the math. I need to see
the math. Chris Little by theway texted me this morning at nine point
thirty with an algebraic question, andI'm like, why am I your go

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to? It's time for Terror inthe Skies, Roger, get off my
plane, Roderick Rodgers? What's ourVictor? Victor? No is enough?
I haven't had with these multy flipsnakes on this money. It's Gary and
Shannon's Terror in the Skies on kA woman in Texas traveling with her baby,

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sixteen month old son and mother claimedshe was kicked off her flight after
she accidentally misgendered a flight attendant.Jenna Longoria is her name. She's a
women's health and hormone expert from justoutside of Austin Borden her flight at SFO
when she said she slipped up andaddressed the United crew member by the wrong
pronoun. Jenna says, when theflight attendant, who identifies as a woman,

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gave me our boarding passes, Isaid thank you, sir. That's
it, that is all. Shesaid. She got upset. I walked
to the plane to go down theaisle. She held, then she held
my mother back and wouldn't let hercome with me past the gate and on
board. She asked another flight attendantmale flight attendant, for assistance, telling
him that he, referring to thefirst flight attendant, had kept her mother,

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who had been helping her with herson, at the gate, and
the flight attendant says he and shesays, yeah, yeah, yeah,
she's where. She's where. Theflight attendant that said, well, she
is wearing a dress. She said, my son is in my hands crying.
I'm trying to get on the plane. As a mother, my prerogative

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is to get my son safely onthe plane, and not what pronouns someone
goes by. She admitted she's notvery well versed with pronouns. She was
eventually prohibited from boarding following a discussionabout having too many carry on items.
She said, that's an absolute liebecause it's not what was going I mean,
listen, maybe the baby counted asone of them. I don't know.

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The United official said that she hadto get statements from witnesses to find
fact, but confirmed it was ultimatelythe call of the captain to kick her
off of the plane, which isat the that's the end of the story
at that point, So well,we have exciting news here and it doesn't
involve any pronoun misunderstandings, and itis some mister bumber puss news and we'll

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do it when we come back.You sure you don't want to say that
for Friday, because Friday is reallyfun. Friday is fun, but I'm
not going to be able to waittill Friday for this and Shannon will continue
right after this. You've been listeningto The Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFIAM six forty nine am to one pm
every Monday through Friday, and anytimeon demand on the iHeartRadio app.