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August 7, 2024 27 mins
Earthquake Gary and Shannon talk about last night’s earthquake centered in Barstow. Gary and Shannon also have an update on the Tom Girardi trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Turns out, Josh Shapiro was an
early fan of Barack Obama when every other Democrat pretty
much was in camp Hillary. It was two thousand and seven.
He was a state representative there in Pennsylvania, and he

(00:22):
broke with much of the Democratic establishment to back this
first term senator from Illinois. He lost Pennsylvania's primary and
O eight to Hillary, and he won the presidency and
never forgot the support from Josh Shapiro. They've become very close.
They say they've developed a connection that's closer than is

(00:42):
commonly understood, according to interviews with people who knew them both.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't know if I would want that description of
me and someone else. That seems a little too intimit intimate. Well,
you don't know why, but I just mean that that's
an odd way to describe a relationship between two people.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm sorry that you don't have friends. Okay, we should
work on that.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'll take it. I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Big Lots is going to be closing up to three
hundred and fifteen stores across multiple states. Because of growing
financial woes, The discount homeware chain has identified some locations
in Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, Vermont which are due
to close. They haven't officially put out an entire list,
but stores that are going out of business the Big
Lots stores will be displaying a closing this location banner

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on their website along with the twenty percent off promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I don't think I've ever been to a Big Lots.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I have a huge Speaking of Big Lots, I have
a huge Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Burning Man update.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh I can't wait. Your face is saying that's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Your face is making it sound like you can wait.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I'm an adult person. I don't like going to
entertain myself in dirt or those showers.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Are implementing an unprecedented move to sell tickets less than
three weeks before the start of Burning Man.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
They call you a burner.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
You could still buy tickets on demand through the OMG
ticket Sale, even if the EU didn't pre register. Traditionally,
tickets wouldn't be available this close to the event, which
begins August twenty fifth, But it just put a ballpark
on what you think a.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Ticket to Burning Man would.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Cost one hundred and twenty five and seventy five dollars stop.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It is where they set.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So it's rich people that go out there and play
in the dirt.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, and last year, remember how it rained and it
was muddy and it was awful. I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
My cousin Danny would go because he's an artist and
he would put up the installations. And that's why he
would go, is because he loves that kind of stuff.
But other than that, and he's in his fifties probably no,
he's not. He's a younger. He's probably close to fifty
this year.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
But I remember thinking, there's just no allure to that
for me, right, nothing about that is alluring.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, well, I was calling you at a time like this.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It could be anybody, probably my wife or my dog
or my daughter.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well you have a leak in your home, my son,
or you don't have color I d well, I'm not going.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
To tell you who it is.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Why, because because you don't have everything, you don't share why.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's why this is case in point.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Last night's earthquake. Oh, I was going to show this
to you. I know that you puppooed the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
But look at this map of the area where the
earthquake hit. Well, yeah, I mean dozens of earthquakes and
after shocks that hit after that big five point two
from last year.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
They said it was connected to the time of day.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Which which is why why it was so white.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Was able to just cover the basin with some sort
of movement.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It was also because your basin is most likely either
sitting or lying down at nine oh nine pm. That's
why that's true. That's why we felt it. At my house,
My daughter and I were both sitting there watching TV.
My wife was in doing a puzzle because she's smarter
than all of us, and we all felt it and
it was I mean, it was a good one. It
was all it lasted, and we're like, it still feels

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like it's still going. And my phone went off at
the exact moment that I felt the earthquake. My phone
had gone off with an alert. A lot of people
got those alerts. I did not get an alert. Yeah,
if you're you make a good point. We all felt
it because we're all probably winding down for the day.
My mom didn't feel the Loma Prieta earthquake because she

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was driving in eighty nine. Yeah, she did not feel that.
I know a couple of people.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
She came home and I said, there was an earthquake,
and I'm terrified and I'm home alone, and she says,
what are you talking about. I'm going upstairs, see you later.
And the carpool lady came busting through the front door, saying,
are you okay? Oh, I guess there was an earthquake
last night.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
There were actually some boulders that fell where I five
goes down the grapevine. There were some boulders that crossed
the road and they had to shut down some of
the lanes.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Last night. And then that's pretty strong.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Boulders come down that far right, I mean they're three
or four feet across. A Qt's plant in Bakersfield was
also evacuated last night after the earthquake.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
We've all driven by that QTS plant, haven't we.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, the massive SI huge.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And it says QUTIES on the whole side of the building.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
They said that immediately after the earth well, immediately about
five minutes after the earthquake, they had a strong smell
of ammonia in the plant, so they evacuated the plant
as a precaution. They at least as the story that
I saw. They hadn't figured out if in fact there
was a leak, but they did it as a precaution.
And then I have a nephew who lives in Bakersfield,

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and he said his entire apartment was making noises. Oh wow,
that's the weirdest. When you hear your home creaking. That's
always rather unsettling. Not that you know, earthquakes themselves are
not unsettling, it's by definition.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well from One of the biggest falls I think from
Grace that I've ever seen was the fall of Tom Girardi,
a legal titan that was connected to all of California.
To get on the bench, you had to have his blessing.
Pretty much. He is the Aaron Brockovich attorney that that
movie was based off. And now he is eighty five,

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wearing secondhand clothes and in a court room that he
once ruled, being prosecuted for stealing from clients, clients who
people in plane crashes or had injuries where they will
never walk again. He stole from those people. Why to

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fund his Hollywood wife's entertainment career in her forties. Story
has everything.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I will come back and do that just a quick update. Gary,
I'm not sure you realize what you said.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
You referred to it as.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
A little speed bump.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I thought that was funny.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Have a good day, guys. Miss Patricia caught that too.
I did not you refer to yourself and your underwear
and then then yeah, a little speed bump. Hey, we
don't have to know everything, Garyan, Listen, you don't need
to explain it. I'm not I'm not. I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
To knock the bar off in the Olympics vault competition.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Gary.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I love the show, Shannon.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I want to apologize for you yesterday, telling you you
were from a little, small puntry town and didn't understand things.
I don't think you guys understand how intertwined you guys
are in my life.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I listen to you every day. Love the show.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Have a great day, Shannon. We all have our days.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I apologize, heyday. Once in a while, friends have to
have harsh words. Yes, I love an apology and I
but I understood your sentiment yesterday, and I do love
the apology. We're all good, and I'd like to talk
to you about your attitude. My attitude.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Oh never mind, Hey.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Guys, great show, as usual, Shannon Farren.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I know you don't have an allure to go to
Bernie Man, but imagine all the cocaine you can.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You could probably move that seventy pounds.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
In a couple of days there. So be a little
bit more open minded and check it out.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Have a good day, guys. Yeah you too, a little
open mind? Yeah, maybe a money making guys.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I ever thought of myself as closed minded.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Just get a basic ticket, the five seventy five. You
could easily make that back with seventy pounds. Don't have
the coke. That was a hypothetical situation.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh that's right, I forgot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Don't do drugs, kids, You can't do drugs anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Tom Girardi. Tom Girardi one of the most powerful lawyers
in a southern California definitely all of California, likely for
a certain amount of time the.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Way the La Times writes it, And maybe Girardi's checks
are still clearing over at the La Times. He was
really one to pepper his money across the country. But
the headline reads Tom Girardi's fraud trial begins a liar
who stole millions or the victim of a thieving CFO.
It's like, come on, La times. You know this guy's

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guilty as the day is long. But the way the
article begins is this Tom Girardi was on a first
name basis with senators from CA California to North Carolina
governor on speed dry speed dial. He would have local
officials lined up for his boozy parties in Beverly Hills,
Vegas and elsewhere. Probably the most connected person that I've

(10:15):
ever met. I never met him, but I did interview
him a couple times on the Sunday Show. I don't
remember what they were with regard to but he's so affable.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
He's just kind of an aw shuckskuy, but has such gravitas.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And there was something that rubbed me the wrong way.
But most people who are.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Rich do because you don't get to be that powerful
and rich without having some compromises that you have made
without having some bodies in the closet, right, skeletons in
the closet. So yesterday he showed up in a federal
courthouse downtown Los Angeles. The jury was seated and his
criminal trial began.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Dan's accused of four counts of wire fraud for allegedly
looting fifteen million from clients over a decade. Clients that
had turned to him in moments of tragedy, a burn victim,
a widow whose husband died in a boating accident, a
woman injured from a medical device, a woman injured in

(11:20):
an auto accident, people that lost the ability to walk
ever again, he won them settlements and then stole their money.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, and this is.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
From the highest heights in terms of that notoriety and
the power that he had to the lowest of lows
in these last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And the thing is, had he not been married to
Erica Jane and that very public divorce that played out
in was it Season eleven of The Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills, I don't think this gets the same noteariety
because it now has even more people who know who

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this guy is.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
The money belonged to those defendants and in one case,
playing crash victims and their family members. But what he
would do is he would keep it after it was awarded.
It should have been promptly paid to the victims, but
he would keep the money and use it for funding

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his wife's entertainment singing career. Lip singing career. In her forties,
he had two private jets we're talking jewelry, country club
fees and mansion in Pasadena, a home in Palm Springs.
Twenty million from the firm's bank account went into the
entertainment career of Erica Girardi. All the while, these people

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are waiting for their money to get medical care, to
get wheelchairs, to bury their loved ones. All of this.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
The downfall of Tom Girardi started when he started working
with Edelson PC, a Chicago law firm in Illinois, and
Jay Edelson, one of the other plaintiffs. Lawyers had previously
developed a reputation as going after Silicon Valley class action
lawsuits against big tech companies because of privacy, but Edison

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said they became aware of unusual delays in dispersing the
sums that Boeing. Remember he was representing plane crash the
families of plane crash victims, the delays in the payments
that Boeing was making to Girardi and keys the law firm.
Over the next several days, Debbie projected to linger along

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the southeast US coast and will produce significant flooding, gusty winds,
prolonged coastal inundation. Some meteorologists that ACU Weathers say there's
a growing threat of relentless rainfall and flooding impacts as
this storm slowly tracks from northern Florida to parallel with
the Georgia and Carolina coastlines.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
The Harris and Trump campaigns both holding events in key
swing states this week.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
JD.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Vance met with law enforcement officials in Shelby Township, Michigan, today,
slamming Kamala Harris's record on crime and immigration. Vance will
then stop in Wisconsin later in the day. Harris and
Walls are said to hold events in Wisconsin this afternoon
and another in Detroit in the evening. What a stark
contrast to what Biden was doing.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh yeah, could.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You imagine keeping this schedule and this enthusiasm. I mean,
it was just so flat lined. It was a flatline campaign.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
And that's that was showing in the polls. That was
showing in the concern that Democrats had about that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
And where is he? Where where is he? And what's
that going to look like when he speaks at the convention.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I know they announced that. I'm you think he does
a video message? That's the Kosi. I think that's what
they have to do. That's kind of the They might
do the old two hologram thing with Biden on Monday
night at the case.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Oh boy, all right, So we are talking about the
Tom Girardi fraud trial, and he is accused of lying
and stealing millions upon millions of settlement dollars from clients.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Officially four counts of wire fraud for allegedly looting the
fifteen million dollars from different clients over the course of
a decade.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
His defense team has dismissed the prosecutor's account as a
fictional Hollywood plot line in accurately casting his client as
the villain. Samuel Cross is the deputy federal public defender.
The fact that Tom Girardi has a public defender is
rich too. He said he to the jury, this is

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my client. He is a once mighty lawyer, now his
later years marred by progression, progressive dementia, disorganized organization in
his law firm Gariti Keyse and large scale theft by
the CFO Christopher Cayman. They said it was him Girardi

(16:11):
who is the victim in all of this. He was
the one who was defrauded, that his CFO pocketed more
than fifty million from his boss or a variety of schemes,
trans transactions, checks to sham companies, things like that.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, that's also possible, but isn't it can't both things happen?
That Tom Girardi was taking money and this guy was
taking advantage of the guy who was taking money.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
He says, he will prove that Girardi had to pour
eighty million of his own money into the firm that
he tried to keep the firm afloat. Why is the
firm sinking because the CFO, Chris Cayman, is stealing the money.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
So I mentioned Jay Edison.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Edison was another lawyer that came out of Chicago, and
when he was working with Tom Girardi on a different case,
he got a little suspicious because there were some weird things,
weird delays when it came to one of the one
of the defendants, Boeing in this case, paying money to

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the families of victims of Boeing playing crashes, and Jay
Addilson said, I noticed that there was something weird that
was antiquated about the way these payments were being dispersed.
And he says So this is a guy who made
hundreds of millions of dollars in his career, so the
idea that he would steal a few million million dollars
from widows and orphans didn't add up. And he said

(17:32):
when he met Tom Girardi for the first time, he
recalled Girardi handing out signed pictures of Erica Jane and
talking about his Morton's steakhouse expenditures, and he said, the
big aha moment was when I read in whatever stupid
gossip mag I came across that Erica Jane had filed
for divorce. And he said, at that point, I said

(17:54):
the money might actually be gone. He was stealing too
make up for the money that was lost.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Apparently the prosecutor is stipulating that the CFO did steal
money from the firm, but that it's a fraction of
what Girardi stole, right, So everyone has their hands in
the pot.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, And I wonder if that guy is going to
end up testifying against Tom Girardi the CFO. I don't
know where he is, or they say, actually, this is
not going to take along a long time, to eight
days or something like that, that's not a very long
considering it's weird.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
To all this stuff they have to lay out in
terms of the financial statements and things like that, and
you would think the victims would testify and all of that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're could get some some forensic economists in there.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I would sure to talk about that. But if it's
just wire fraud and.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's it's a criminal case as opposed to a civil case,
that's truckle. Aren't you know they're not suing him for
the money. I guess they could, but they're not at
this point. One of the questionnaires, by the way, for
the perspective juror did ask whether prospective jurors watched The
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or any other Bravo shows.

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His defense attorneys were concerned that if jurors did see
him on those shows that it would color their perceptions
of him because he was just this I she made
it sound like she was a victim in these shows.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
By the way, he's got a case in Chicago that's pending,
and that's where the CFO is going to go to
trial for what he did in terms of thievery. A
federal judge has set March third, twenty twenty five trial
date for Christopher Cayman. Another one of his attorneys will
also go to trial, David Lera and then Girardi. Once

(19:50):
this resolves, he'll have to go face trial in Chicago
as well.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, we have advocated for something like this, and I
had not heard about this program before the America Exchange Project.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's a really great idea. Yes, we'll talk about that.
What it is? Maybe how to get your kids signed
up for that? When we come.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Back, Gary and channor or your co host, Maybe I
send you somewhere strange for a while and you come
back with a fresh set of eyes.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Where would you send me?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I would send you many places, really anywhere. Okay, just kidding.
That was that was just a joke, just to get
me out of here. Yeah, I was just a little joke.
Gary and channawall came by yourself. Now, I don't want
to be by myself, don't go. Does the name Kai
Sinnat mean anything to you?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Kai Sinat is a popular twitch streamer. Oh yeah, and
he has waded into the Harris campaign. Apparently, the Harris
campaign is yet to respond as this popular twitch streamer,
Kai Sinat claims he's getting calls about a possible collaboration
with the Vice president. They call him an Internet sensation

(21:02):
from New York City. He claims the Secret Service has
reached out to him several times about getting the Vice
President on his live stream. This is a guy who
streams out of a U haul from an undisclosed location
in Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Can I say that the Secret Service would never contact
him to do that.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
He admitted to his nearly thirteen million followers that he
knows nothing about politics and is not really interested in
the matter. He gained notoriety last year after his giveaway
at Union Square turned into a riot and he was
paid thousands of dollars in restitution. That entire story that
I just read makes me want to go get China

(21:43):
and bring them here myself and just say, wipe us out,
invite them over, come over, and just take it. Just
take it. We are such a weird society. Not that
it's probably much better in China. I think we're globally
more stupid than we used to be.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
But what.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Well, that's how we're going to get votes. Let's not
talk about things that actually matter. I'm speaking of Harris
and Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, her running mate, spending their
first full day as running mates in Wisconsin and Michigan.
They said yesterday, sorry, they said today the campaign that
they'd raised thirty six million dollars in the first twenty
four hours after the vice presidential announcement. And I'm starting

(22:24):
to get to the point where the announcements of the
money that you've raised are now just self aggrandizing, like
totally self love, self love than self love. It's just
we'll call it couch time because listen you oh we won't. No,

(22:45):
it's because it's just, Okay, you made millions of dollars,
so did the other team. The other team made millions
of dollars as well. It's just fake money at this point.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Okay. So there is a program I did not know about.
It's called the American Exchange Prime and it is fascinating
story in the La Times about it today. This summer,
a group of high school students brought a whole new
meaning to foreign exchange programs right here in this country
of the United States. Wendy Rojas of Koreatown immersed herself

(23:18):
in South Dakota, expecting to see Mount Rushmore. Instead, she
had to set the record straight about her hometown of La.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
She explained to the people her neighborhood is not overrun
with gangs and rife with gunfire like they'd seen in
the movies Maggie and Kilgore, Texas. Had to convince her
visitors from La that Texans don't get around on horseback.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
This came This American Exchange Project came out of a
trip from David McCullough third, the founder of the organization,
from about eight years ago cross country trip. He was
twenty two years old at the time, a Yale student
working on a research project, talking to students and teachers
in different poor areas of the country. And it was

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all during the breaking of politics in our country, the
twenty sixteen race between Trump and Clinton, and said he
expected to face some animosities, wary of the fact that
some of the people from different parts of the country
might not welcome him, especially if he says he's a
Yale student or whatever, and.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
That wasn't the case. They accepted him warmly. And I
love this idea of adults and kids alike getting out
of their bubble, getting out of their echo chamber, getting
out of their hometown and going and seeing how other
people live that the more we do this, the better
off we are altogether and make better community members and everything.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
If you're interested by it, it's Americanexchange Project dot org
is the website and the way that you sign up.
Any current senior at a partner high school to the
American Exchange Project on track to graduate would be eligible
to participate. They get you some basic information about your interests,
the hometown, your plan for the future, what your availability

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is in terms of travel, and then the placement team
there will use the information to pair you up with
the town and the group that you'll be working with,
and if students have to consult with the student's exchange
manager before signing up and then picking your destination. In
all of the partner schools, March first is AEP day,

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so in the springtime, all the students go to their
exchange manager's classroom where they find an EA sorry AEP
bag with their name on it. The bag will be
a letter revealing which town in this faraway part of
America that they'd be traveling to. The dates of the travel,
the hosting experience would all be revealed, and that's the
day that the whole thing becomes very real.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
This is a very I.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Obviously everybody has exchange students in their high schools or
you know somebody who was in exchange and you go whatever, Japan, Land, France,
something like that, and those were always the very exotic,
felt very I was jealous of them because they got
to live in a different culture for a long time
and learn the language.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I never had the balls to do.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
You couldn't wrap your head around that. Yeah, it just
seems so foreign. But then you go to this literally,
then you go to these places and you meet people
and it it's obvious how much alike we all are globally,
and that we're not so different. And and you know what,
you don't talk about You don't talk about politics. You
just talk about each other. And I'm you know what

(26:37):
we should do.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
We should talk to this.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
We should get an exchange student for the show.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh, I think I said, we should interview David mccullo
about his experience and why he started the program.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
That's probably a more realistic scenario.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I'm getting an exchange student.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, this is why you should have let me foster
the duck, so that we don't we don't move into
people into human traffick.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
McCullough said this, and I think it's a very important
takeaway from it. He says, we're defining people by fractions
of who they are. Yes, and we're pretending that because
we know one of their views, we know all of
their views.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I love that attitude.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I mean, just the idea, and that's quite a condemnation
of all of us who, once we learn one specific
thing about that person, we think.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh, oh profile, profile, Yes, I know.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Everything, all right.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Coming up next, we've got some new polling, We've got
a packed schedule, by the way till, by the way holes,
and how the campaign is defining Tim Walls. We'll get
into all of that coming up next.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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