August 15, 2024 • 38 mins
Laila and Shannon go live to a press conference where DOJ officials discuss the arrest made ion the death of Matthew Perry. Laila and Shannon also talk about how many students are “chronologically absent’ in school and whether recess or allowance can get them back on track. #TerrorInTheSkies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We're going to go to that
press conference about arrest made in the case of Matthew Perry.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the end, these defendants were more interested in profiting
off mister Perry than caring for his well being. I'm
going to talk about the indictment, the allegations, and the
charges in more detail. On October twenty eight, twenty twenty three,
mister Perry was found deceased in his home and autopsy was.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Conducted following his death.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That autopsy showed that he had died due to the
acute effects of ketamine.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Ketamine is a control substance.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It has some legitimate uses, but it is also used illegally.
It is used by people seeking to disassociate from reality.
It can cause serious health effects, serious health problems, including
loss of consciousness, including spikes and blood pressure, and including
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respiratory issues that can deprive the brain of oxygen. For
that reason, it is a drug that must be administered
by medical professionals and the patient must be monitored closely.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That did not occur here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This investigation focused on who supplied the ketamine to mister Perry.
As many of you know, mister Perry struggled with addiction
in the past. On many occasions he sought help for
his addiction issues. The investigation revealed in the fall of
twenty twenty three, mister Perry fell back into addiction and
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these defendants took advantage to profit for themselves. The two
lead defendants in this case are defendants Salvador Placentia and
defendant Jessevin Sanya. First, I'll talk about defendant Placentia, plus
was a medical doctor. He worked with another medical doctor,
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defendant Mark Chavez, to obtain ketemine. He then worked with
mister Perry's live in assistant, defendant Kenneth Iwamasa, to distribute
that ketamine to mister Perry. Over two months from September
to October twenty twenty three, they distributed approximately twenty vials
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of ketamine to mister Perry in exchange for fifty five
thousand dollars in cash. Defendant Placentia saw this as an
opportunity to profit off of mister Perry. He wrote in
a text message in September twenty twenty three, quote, I
wonder how much this moron will pay. He also stated
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in text messages that he wanted to be mister Perry's
sole source of supply. He wrote in a text message
that he wanted to be mister Perry's quote go to
for drugs. As a doctor, Defendant Placentia knew full well
the danger of what he was doing. In fact, on
one occasion, he injected mister Perry with kenemine and he
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saw mister Perry freeze up and his blood pressure spike.
Despite that, he left additional vials of ketamine for defendant
Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry. Of course, defendant Iwamasa
had no medical training to speak of. Defendant Placentia knew
what he was doing was harming mister Perry. He had
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spoken to another patient in mid October twenty twenty three,
and he told that patient that mister Perry was spiraling
out of control with his addiction. Nonetheless, Defendant Placentia continued
to offer ketamine to mister Perry. Likewise, defendant Sonya knew
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what she was doing was harming defendant defendants and also
mister Perry. She took advantage of mister Perry by selling
large amounts of ketymine to mister Perry. Over a two
week period in October of twenty twenty three, she sold
approximately fifty vials of ketamine for approximately eleven thousand dollars
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in cash. She worked with a broker, defendant, Eric Fleming,
and also the live in assistant defendant Iwamasa to distribute
this ketamine. Sonya and the broker defendant Fleming, saw this
as an opportunity to profit off of mister Perry, and
a text message the broker wrote, quote, I wouldn't do
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it if there wasn't a chance of me making some
money for doing this. Defendant Sonya sold the batch of ketamine.
The resulted in mister Perry's death on October twenty eight.
Officers later searched defendant Sonya's home. During that search, they
found what amounted to a drug selling emporium. They found
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eighty vials of ketamine, thousands of pills containing methamphetamine, cocaine,
bottles of xanax, and other illegally obtained prescription drugs, and
drug selling paraphernalia, including scales and ledgers.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They'd referred to it using.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Terms such as quote doctor Pepper, or quote bots or
quote cans.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Also, defendants Placentia.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And Chavez, as medical doctors, knew full well this was
not the proper way to administer ketamine, and they even
talked about that in their exchanges, and Sognya also knew
that she was doing something that caused great risk to
mister Perry. In fact, during this investigation, we learned that
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several years before, in twenty nineteen, defendant Sonia had sold
ketamine to another customer. That person died the same day,
and a family member of that person sent a message
to defendant Sonya telling her the cause of death was ketamine. Nonetheless,
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Defendant Sonya continued selling drugs, including ketamine, including the ketamine
that ultimately killed mister Perry. That other victim was a
person named Cody McLaury.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He died in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
As a result of this investigation, we have filed a
drug distribution charge related to the death of mister McLaury.
After mister Perry died, these defendants tried to cover up
what they had done. On October twenty eighth, after reading
news reports of mister Perry's death, defendant Sonya wrote a
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text message to defend it Fleming, saying quote delete.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
All our messages. Likewise.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
After Minister Perry's death, defendant Placentia falsified medical records and
notes to try to make it look like what he
was doing was legitimate.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We filed numerous federal charges against the five defendants. These
charges include conspiracy to distribute ketamine, distribution of ketamine resulting
in death, maintaining drug involved premises for that drug selling emporium,
the defendant Soigna had altering and falsifying records related to
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a federal investigation for those false medical notes and records
that defendant Placentia made, and multiple other drug trafficking counts.
Of course, the defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
The penalties these defendants fail are very significant. With their
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guard to defendant Placentia, the statutory maximum sentence he faces
is one hundred and twenty years in federal prison. Now,
with their guard to defendant Sonia, the statutory maximum she
faces is life in prisonment. By filing these extensive and
serious charges, we are sending a clear message if you
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are in the business of selling dangerous drugs, we will
hold you accountable for the deaths that you cause.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
This is nothing new for US.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Since twenty twenty two, my office has filed over sixty
cases against drug dealers who've caused the death of another person.
These cases are known as death resulting cases. Their labor
intensive cases, and we work with our law enforcement partners,
including ones represented here today, to bring those cases.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Our office is a national leader in bringing those cases.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They're very important because every victim's live counts. If you
are in the drug selling business and you're selling dangerous drugs,
you are playing roulette with other people's lives, just like
the five defenders here did to mister Perry.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Defendants nowadays are.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
On full notice that the products they sell could result
in the death of another person. Therefore, if you're in
the drug business, and despite these risks you continue in
the drug business, you are pushed by greed to gamble
with other people's lives, be advised we will hold you accountable.
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I want to think our partners in this case, the
Los Angeles Police Department, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the
US Postal Inspection Service. These investigators did a phenomenal job
digging into the case, looking at every angle to develop
a case, a strong case against not only those who
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killed mister Perry, but also mister McLaury. I want to
note that these cases are important and will continue to
collaborate with our law enforcement partners to bring them to
ensure that justice is brought to every victim. And finally,
let me thank the prosecutors responsible for the investigation and
the prosecution of this case. Those are assistant in United
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States Attorneys Ian Yannello and Shaohan Sigh. And now I'd
like to introduce Chief of Los Angeles Police Department, Dominic CHOI.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
All right, good morning, and thank you Martin.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know, while it's a tragedy that brings us all
here together, I'm happy to stand here knowing that these
dangerous individuals are no longer on the streets and.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They won't be able to harm anyone else.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The Los Angeles Police Department and our partners here today
were committed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
To investigating all cases like this, and.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It's regardless of someone's background or socioeconomic status. And just
with all of our cases, this investigation was done impartially.
We let the facts drive this investigation, and those facts
led us to a group of individuals who were responsible
for supplying and distributing to mister Perry narcotics that led
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to his unfortunate and untimely death. The group standing here today,
it's a prime example how our partnerships and our collaboration
can yield meaningful results. I want to thank lapd Our
Robbery Homicide Division, who's standing in the back there, the
US Attorney Martinez Strada and his team, the DEA and
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her team, as well as the US Postal Special Service
and their team for their hard work, diligence, and real pay.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I know people think this took a long time, but
there was a lot of work, a lot of investigative
strategies that went into this to make sure that there's
a solid case and that we can pursue this in
the courts. Our relationship with our federal partners it helps
us ensure that these criminals will have meaningful sentences and
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be an example for anyone that is willing to risk
or jeopardize distributing and supplying unlawful or narcotics to anyone.
And I just really want people to know that that
is the message. You cannot get away with this, regardless
of your backgrounder socio economic status, breaking the laws, breaking
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the law, and you are dangerous and you are jeopardizing lives.
So thank you all all my partners for being involved
in this and being bringing us to where we are
at today. And at this time I'd like to introduce
Dea Administrator and Milgrim.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Today we announced charges brought against five individuals who together
are responsible for the death of Matthew Perry. Each of
the defendants played a key role in his death. They
falsely prescribed, sold, or injected the ketamine that caused Matthew
Perry's tragic death. In the United States, most forms of
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ketamine are only approved by the Food and Drug Administration
for anesthesia. A nasal spray version is approved for treatment
of depression, but only in a certified medical setting. Here,
Matthew Perry sought treatment for depression and anxiety and went
to a local clinic where he became addicted to intervenous ketemine.
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When clinic doctors refused to increase his dosage, he turned
to unscrupulous doctors who saw Perry as a w to
make quick money. Doctor Placentia, doctor Chavez violated the oath
they took to care for their patients. Instead of do
no harm, they did harm so that they could make
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more money without performing any medical evaluation or monitoring. They
supplied Matthew Perry with large amounts of ketamine in exchange
for large sums of money, charging Perry two thousand dollars
for a vial that cost doctor Chavez approximately twelve dollars.
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As Matthew Perry's ketamine addiction grew, he wanted more, and
he wanted it faster and cheaper. That is how he
ended up buying from street dealers who sold the ketamine
that ultimately led to his death. In doing so, he
followed the arc that we have tragically seen with many
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others whose substance use disorder begins in a doctor's office
and ends in the street. Perry turned to a street dealer,
Eric Fleming, who sourced his ketemine from a drug trafficker
known as the ketamine Queen, Jazzvin Sangha. The ketamine supplied
by Sangha would ultimately be the dose that took Matthew
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Perry's life. Songhan knew that the ketamine she supplied could
be deadly, since in twenty nineteen she had sold ketamine
to Cody mclaurie.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Didn't compare notes, did they? A let of repeat information?
We're listening to a press conference out of downtown, LA.
Five defendants have been charged in connection with the ketamine
related death of actor Matthew Perry. Unscrupulous doctors that just
wanted the money and did not care about the life.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And includes what two doctors and a woman who was
known as the ketamine Queen, plus Perry's live an assistant.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, everybody was on the take on this, So let's
hear some more here.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Aviation, exploitation by those who should have guided him toward help.
This betrayal of trust is at the heart of this tragedy.
Since twenty twenty three, DEA has investigated nearly five hundred
drug poisoning and overdose cases, just like Matthew Perry's.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
We run a national initiative known as.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Od Justice, where we work with our state and local
law enforcement partners to conduct investigations after someone has passed away.
And it is important to note that the national model
we today have in every fifty state across the United
States is based on the work that started here in
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Los Angeles. We began this work with our partners in
the Los Angeles Police Department and with other local police
departments and sheriff's offices in California. In the Los Angeles
area and with the US Attorney's Office, and today it
stands as our nation model for this critical work. Together,
as part of OD Justice, we work to bring justice
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for the lives that have been lost and to stop
others from dying. Regardless of the size or scope of
a drug distribution network, the DEA will work NonStop to
uncover and disrupt this illegal activity, and in this case,
the deadly activity. I want to close by noting that
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Matthew Perry's death is not just a tragic overdose. After
his twenty twenty book openly discussed his struggles with substance
use disorder, Matthew Perry told podcast host Tom Power that
he would prefer to be remembered for helping people rather
than for his work on friends as Chandler bing and
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so perhaps what has happened and the tragic details that
we are discussing today can help others and save lives.
I want to thank the Los Angeles Police Department, the
United States Postal Inspection Service, and the United States Attorney's
Office in the Central District of California for their tremendous
partnership and their outstanding dedication to this case.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I also have the.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Privilege of serving every single day with the men and women.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, we'll pull away from this now. Will monitor any
questions that they ask, any pertinent information that comes out.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
But they laid out a lot of details here.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Of course, this is about the arrests that dropped this
morning involving the death of actor Matthew Perry. US attorney
Martinus Strada came out first, and five defendants have been
charged in connection with this ketamine related death. The defendants,
like you said, Leila, a live in assistant, two doctors,
and a woman known as the Ketamine Queen, that they're
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all part of a broad underground criminal network that supplied
ketamine to Perry and other people. That they took advantage
of his addiction to enrich themselves. It felt like a
punch when they talked about how in the fall of
last year he fell back into addiction, right because everyone
knows somebody who is on the on that cliff and
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can take one step in the wrong direction and fall
off of it, and.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
They capitalize on that.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And we heard early on from Martin Estrada about how
what he says, doctor Chavez, along with the other doctor,
doctor Salvador Placentia worked together right away to give Perry
twenty vals of ketamine for fifty five thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That's where we started with this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think that one of the shocking moments is
when they announced that these doctors were charging Matthew Perry
two thousand dollars of vial for what cost them twelve
dollars to obtain.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And then investigators see these text messages right, which I
always go back to. People are always leaving trails, allegedly
in this case, with text messages right saying that I
wonder how much this moron will pay referring to Perry
in order to get his hands on the ketamine.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, and you think that if you were breaking the
law knowingly, if you had what they laid out that
this woman had, which was a drug emporium with all
sorts of drugs, eighty vials of ketamine, meth pills, cocaines,
annex other prescriptions.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Scales, ledgers.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
If you were operating a drug selling emporium, you would
be smart enough to know that your text messages can
be used against you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I will in the future.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's always shocking to me that people don't know that
who are engaged in criminal enterprises. The US attorney Martinis
Strata laid out how yes, ketamine is used legitimately but
also illegally, that it can cause a disassociation from reality,
serious health problems, respiratory issues, that it's a drug that
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must be administered by medical professionals, and that that did
not occur here. Not only does it need to be
administered by medical professionals, but you have to be under
the monitoring of said professionals.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And what they're saying in this investigation is that these
doctors are dropping off the Keademy and then having Perry's
live in assistant monitor his use of Kademy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Who has zero medical training whatsoever, and sending the text
message that the doctor sent quoting here. I wonder how
much this moron will pay. That is damning the fact
that he wanted to be the sole source of Matthew
Perry's supply. He wanted to be the go to guy,
despite the fact they knew the danger. And that's where
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they're going to get into real problems, because there's proof
that these two doctors weren't just prescribing this willy nilly
for profit. Because you can find doctors to help out
rich people all the time. Look at the whole world
of concierge concierge medicine, that's essentially what it is. But
if you know the things that you're prescribing is dangerous,
if you've seen it be dangerous in the past, and
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you know that, and yet you do it despite it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
As they laid.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Out, not only are you doing no harm, you know
you are doing harm.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yep. The Turnia shadow was talking about how in one case,
doctor Placinia was had seen Perry freeze up after it
managing the ketamine, was still left more and still continue
to supply him with it, and this is the month
in which he died, and also said that he told
another patient that Perry was spiraling out of control, but
again continue to supply the kedemy.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And the other thing that came out of this press
conference is one of the people who sold the ketamine,
the what's her name, the ketamine Queen, that she had
sold it to somebody else in twenty nineteen, a customer
who died the same day that she sold him the ketamine,
and that a family member texted the ketamine Queen to say, hey,
the cause of death was your drugs. She knew that,
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she knew there was a chance that somebody else could
die from the same drug and yet continue to supply
Perry with these with these drugs, but that the guy
that died in twenty nineteen, they have filed a charge
at least one related to his death as well.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Her name is jefs being Sanga. I think I'm saying
that correctly, Jess Been Senga. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
And even the text messages listen, so the encrypted messages,
which I don't think we're really that the cult language.
They were using doctor Pepper and cans and bots and
referring to Perry as you know what, mister p.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
That's not really really cryptic if you're you.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Know yeah, And it was really heartbreaking. Anne Milgram, as
a DEA administrator there that spoke at the end the
way she said that, you know, Matthew Perry's addiction problems
were well documented in his twenty twenty book, and that
he went on a podcast and said, I don't prefer
to be remembered as Chandler bing on friends. I prefer
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to be someone who's remembered for helping people. And I
think he helped a lot of people with that book.
He fell back into addiction. Now we know, and unfortunately
in death, will probably help a lot of people at
least shut down this part of this web drug dealing
web that we know about operating in Hollywood. It'll be
interesting to see if any other names come out of this.
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Interesting and heartbreaking as well, if there's other addictions to follow.
Lay La Muhammad in with me today, Gary taking his
daughter moving out of state. So there's something with that,
I know, popa big life changes there. We are learning
this hour about Matthew Perry's death and what led up
to it, and it is so gross, Like I think
you've said a couple times off the air, like people
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are horrible.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
This is an example of horrible humans. So you're watching
someone really lead to their own demise. You're assisting in that.
You continue to give this person the thing that's killing
them and watch them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You knew he had addiction problems, you're living at his
house as a living assistant, and you're injecting him with
ketamine knowing that he is susceptible to doing too much.
I mean, that is what we learned that Matthew Perry's
living assistant injected him with ketamine the day that he died,
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that the doctor that was prescribing it injected him one time,
saw him freeze up, the blood pressure spike, the telltale
signs things are going wrong, that he's had too much,
but proceeded to leave more drugs at the house for
this assistant to inject him. Parry with no medical training,
and the price gouging that he bought in the weeks
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leading up to his death when he fell back into
addiction in October of last year, spent like seventy thousand
dollars on these vials of ketamine, vials that he was
paying two thousand dollars a piece for when the street
value is twelve dollars.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
A piece in the US Attorney's office saying we have
the text messages to back this up as part of
our investigations. Some conversations happening between the doctor's calling Peri
and Moron and seeing how much he will pay, willingly
knowing that he would, knowing that he was freezing up
during one administering of the ketamine, and still providing him
with more. It's just a sad ending to a story
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that happened really quickly between September and October.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. It did happen very quickly.
That's just how quick addiction can catch up, catch back
up with you to your demise, especially when you're being
helped along the way. You have enablers who just want
to profit off of you. They don't care about you. Well,
there was an article in the La Times, and here
is the headline, Can cash and recess return absent students
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to school?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Recess recess? The idea is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
This, who's calling for that? Recess was a scary place.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I enjoyed recess.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Recess was taken from us when things were out of
hand and you know, on campus or if there were
fights or you know, kids were getting in trouble for
whatever reason, they'd say, Okay, no recess today. But for
the most part, that wasn't an incentive to go to school.
I wasn't going to school for recess.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Recess for minds, no, I was not either. Reasons reminds
me of like boys that through the dodgeball too hard
and that hurt the good time for girls to be
bullying and do shady stuff.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I don't think that would be incentive.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But in California, one in four students were chronically absent
in twenty twenty two to twenty three. That means they
missed at least ten percent of the school year. That
is comparable to the national average. And it was a
little worse at LAUSD with one in three. And obviously
school systems that have higher numbers of low income families
tend to have worse attendance.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
So they go through all this in this story, and
I get that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Some states are looking for some solutions, and of course
here in California, we're also looking for our solutions. But
the common threat I think with all of these states
who are having issues with attendance is that things have
not returned to somewhat normal since the pandemic. Schools are
struggling to get kids back into seats in school and
to care enough to keep coming back in person when
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they've already been at home for what a year or
two doing virtual classes, and Phil and like, I don't
really have to show up in person to get the
same results.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
I can stay home.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So in Oakland, chronic absenteeism skyrocketed from twenty nine percent
pre pandemic to fifty three percent to your point, after
the pandemic. So the district in Oakland asked students what
would convince them to come to class?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Gus, who's asking students for their opinion on what's going
to convince them with it?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Where your parents?
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Orangement school exactly? And the students replied bribery. They said
money and a mentor So a grand funded program that
was launched in spring of last year paid forty five
students fifty dollars a week for perfect attendance.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Fifty dollars a week.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
That is real money. That's a that's a lot of money.
Are they putting that into a savings account the school?
Are they doing something like that for those kids? Are
just giving them fifty bucks?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I think they're just giving them the money? What good
is that kind of thing? Our incentive was that certificate.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
At the end of the school year, we walk across
the stage usual a paper that says perfect attendance, right,
and you may have gotten a letter from the president
or something like that back then.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, yeah, I know of people who want their kids
to focus on school, so they'll give them an allowance
because they can't keep down an after school job and
go to school. I understand that, But the actual school
paying to get the kids butts and the seats, and
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I mean to follow the money here. Really, they've got
skin in the game. The school districts do because they
get paid when the kids are in class.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, it's hard to convince mom and dad they should
send a couple of packs of computer printer paper and
some Kleenex and Chlorox for the school. But you're going
to pay my kid fifty bucks to come to class.
But you can't help the teacher put fifty dollars of
supplies in their classroom. It's not adding up or making sense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
If my kid came home with fifty dollars a week
from school, that would be in my pocket or like.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I said, a savings account. But that's a saving the solution.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I just They were talking about this program called I Attend,
which is at LAUSD, and it's an outreach program where
they the district staff reaches out to families to say, hey,
haven't seen your kid in a while, or or you know,
showing up to people's homes finding ways to help kids
find bus routes. That may assist a parent who has
several kids with different drop off times and they're, oh,
bless you, and they're running late.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Taking all the kids to school.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Okay, that's nice to have programs like that, but the
incentive can't be I'm paying you to come to school.
This is not a by the way, this is not
a K through twelve problem in the higher education realm. Yeah,
this is still a problem. Right last semester follow me
on this. I thought i'd do something different, not to
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be like a cool professor, because I don't care if
you all think I'm cool. I got a job to do,
but to just say, these are adults, I'm going to
work with them and not put a very strict attendance
policy in the syllabi. Worst decision of my semester. Really,
I had the most stressful year, actually not even the
whole year, the most stressful spring semester with this trial
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that I did.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
With that, I will never do it again. What happened?
What did the syllabus used to say? And then what?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
For example, you get to set the rules, right, so
if a class is an hour and a half or
hour and fifteen minutes, maybe you will allow four absences,
and then it starts to affect your grade because if
a student's meeting you two to three days a week,
four absences over the course of a semester.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
It's not a whole lot, right, I mean, things happen
fifteen or ten. I can't go back.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And reteach you all the stuff you missed, right, and
you can't look at me crazy?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
And you know, did you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Say to them, we're all adults here. I'm going to
put it in your court on first day then, And
that's how they respond.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I say, now, listen to me. Professor m is going
to do something different. I say that because they don't
call me Layla. They call me various things. Professor image is.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
What I call myself.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm going to try very I'm gonna try something new
because you're an adults, and I know you know this
one class we were meeting Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
First of all, I learned college students don't come to
class in LA when it's sunny and it's Friday. You
better hang that upright, figure out an online a lecture
or send them an assignment. I learned that quickly. But
what I did put into their breakdown or they're grade
was participation accounts for like fifteen percent in class assignments.
If you're not there, you can't participate or do the assignments.
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So it does affect your greade, but it doesn't say
if you missed ten classes you felt never again.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Wow, So what did you do with those? Did you
have to flunk them? Or I'll send out a little no.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Hey, buddy, you've missed fifteen classes, and I you know
you're missing some very important lectures. I am not putting
office hours aside to reteach you. I don't get paid
enough for that, first of all, and there are.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Fifty of you.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I can't give you all that individual tutoring because you
chose to miss class. So I had to have some
real tough talks, and some of them got it together.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
They showed up after that. They got smart.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They realized I did quizzes on Wednesday, so they never
missed a Wednesday. They're smart, just like the students in
the story.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Begin of Traveling. We got some tear in the skies.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Flight near York lay the day rather get off my
plane Proger Rogers's Victor Victor is en I have had.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
With these munkey pipe snakes on this money.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the skies on KFY.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now I was a little surprised that they would have
an emergency landing for this situation.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Really, But when I started thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
About it, I thought, well, that would make me happy
if I was a board.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
It's it's a health hazard essentially, right, Yes, I would
think so. I mean, I don't know how these things jump.
I don't know either, but I do wouldn't want to
find out.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I remember being in school and they would do
the thing with the popsicle sticks and they would look
in your hair and stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I never did.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's just the thing I've always been told. Don't know
if this is true. I'm not a doctors, so don't
yell at me. But I've always been told my hair texture,
it was never a concern. Okay, there's something about our
hair texture of black women or black people in general
that lice is not. Really not saying never, yeah, I'm
just saying it was never concerned as a kid or
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anything like. Oh, like we didn't have life talks, right.
I just don't know if it's the hair grease or
the hair texture or what. But well, thank you lord,
it's good. See now you'll feel good moving about the cabin.
But I remember just a couple of times, maybe like
you know, maybe twice going through elementary school where they
would you know, one kid would report that they had
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lice or the parents would and so then that everyone
was checked or whatever. But anyway, LA to New York
American Airlines flight made an emergency landing in Phoenix because
passengers saw lice crawling in a woman's hair midair. Now,
it must have been a lot for people to aren't
those like tiny and by the way, the black hair
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lice thing, Yes, I know it's a myth, but I
don't get through.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I did.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
They're like, like girls, stop playing. Don't get people. I'm
not trying to.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Get false We have enough people giving us false information
on a daily basis on TV.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
You don't need it from me.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
But I can imagine, Shannon, it had to be several
things running around for people to see that.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Now I'm itching, I'm doing this too.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I'm like, damn it.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Those kids can say those Jacob, oh my god, so good.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Anyway, but I have to imagine there had to be
several little little lights rolling around.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Like I don't think I've ever seen. No, I'm gonna
google that.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
A passenger put it on TikTok, so I try to
pull it up. I don't have the TikTok.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
I don't either. I don't China in my right. I
want to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I already buy things direct from China. I don't need
them in my phone.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
If you already buy things direct, it's it's a lost call.
Get the TikTok.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
But they said it was pure confusion and people were
recording it like what is happening, and uh they had
to know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Oh my god, look at some of these pictures. Yeah,
that's bad. That's not good. Those are moving, those are big.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
The person in the video says Ethan, He goes, I
look around, no one else, No one's on the ground.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No one's freaking out. I'm like, it can't be that dire.
But we land.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
As soon as we land, this woman across the alphamy
shoots up and rushes to the front of the plane,
and everyone's like freaking out about that.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
We saw lice. We saw lice.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
And two girls saw the bugs crawling on the woman's
hair and told the flight attended like, look, come get
this lady.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know, if this was an Albuquerque to Kansas City flight,
it may not have caused such a stir. But it's
the bougie La to New York flight.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Don't say it is.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Don't say that I think anyone who would see this. Okay,
let's dig a little deeper. Things happen on the plane
that we have no control over. Sometimes the person next
to you bring stinky food, or sometimes they're just stinky.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
There are a lot of things that happen.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
You can't just get up and move because the person
you has bo or their food smells bat I had
someone who sat in front of my row who got sick.
Thank the Lord, we were just about to take off
and had not already been there. And I mean she
got and you're sitting oh, and god, thankfully I wasn't
in that window, see, because that poor guy next to me,
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his stuff was ruined on the floor.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
They moved us all.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
They made her get off the plane, and I think
her fillings were They're like, we can't risk you doing
this again, and there you have to go, lady. Sorry,
And they deep clean, but they had to bring a
whole crew onto deep cleaning our seats and everything bio hazard.
They offered us, you know, free beverages and stuff for
the rest of the flight. But we were just like,
I'm like every ready to get off this plane.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I have a hard time seeing or hearing someone throw up.
It was bad, it was bad.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So if I saw someone with lice, I would definitely
push the call button. Well, the only airline that really
has a call button now probably is United with those
old planes. But you know, I would definitely alert the
flight attendant and say, come get you know, the last
delight lady.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
The last flight I was on, I sat in the
window and it was a two and two and so
there was a woman next to me and she had
about a fourteen month old son and he had needed
a diaper change. She handed me the soiled baby and
she asked you to hell, I'm holding baby. I know.
I'm like, profile me please. A flight attendant sees the
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look on my face. Rush is back, I'm holding the
baby out like this, rushes back. She's like, I have
a seat for you, come with me. I'm like, thank you.
Movie to first class, close to close to it.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. We're going to go to that
press conference about arrest made in the case of Matthew Perry.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In the end, these defendants were more interested in profiting
off mister Perry than caring for his well being. I'm
going to talk about the indictment, the allegations, and the
charges in more detail. On October twenty eight, twenty twenty three,
mister Perry was found deceased in his home and autopsy was.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Conducted following his death.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That autopsy showed that he had died due to the
acute effects of ketamine.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Ketamine is a control substance.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It has some legitimate uses, but it is also used illegally.
It is used by people seeking to disassociate from reality.
It can cause serious health effects, serious health problems, including
loss of consciousness, including spikes and blood pressure, and including
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respiratory issues that can deprive the brain of oxygen. For
that reason, it is a drug that must be administered
by medical professionals and the patient must be monitored closely.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That did not occur here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This investigation focused on who supplied the ketamine to mister Perry.
As many of you know, mister Perry struggled with addiction
in the past. On many occasions he sought help for
his addiction issues. The investigation revealed in the fall of
twenty twenty three, mister Perry fell back into addiction and
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these defendants took advantage to profit for themselves. The two
lead defendants in this case are defendants Salvador Placentia and
defendant Jessevin Sanya. First, I'll talk about defendant Placentia, plus
was a medical doctor. He worked with another medical doctor,
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defendant Mark Chavez, to obtain ketemine. He then worked with
mister Perry's live in assistant, defendant Kenneth Iwamasa, to distribute
that ketamine to mister Perry. Over two months from September
to October twenty twenty three, they distributed approximately twenty vials
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of ketamine to mister Perry in exchange for fifty five
thousand dollars in cash. Defendant Placentia saw this as an
opportunity to profit off of mister Perry. He wrote in
a text message in September twenty twenty three, quote, I
wonder how much this moron will pay. He also stated
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in text messages that he wanted to be mister Perry's
sole source of supply. He wrote in a text message
that he wanted to be mister Perry's quote go to
for drugs. As a doctor, Defendant Placentia knew full well
the danger of what he was doing. In fact, on
one occasion, he injected mister Perry with kenemine and he
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saw mister Perry freeze up and his blood pressure spike.
Despite that, he left additional vials of ketamine for defendant
Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry. Of course, defendant Iwamasa
had no medical training to speak of. Defendant Placentia knew
what he was doing was harming mister Perry. He had
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spoken to another patient in mid October twenty twenty three,
and he told that patient that mister Perry was spiraling
out of control with his addiction. Nonetheless, Defendant Placentia continued
to offer ketamine to mister Perry. Likewise, defendant Sonya knew
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what she was doing was harming defendant defendants and also
mister Perry. She took advantage of mister Perry by selling
large amounts of ketymine to mister Perry. Over a two
week period in October of twenty twenty three, she sold
approximately fifty vials of ketamine for approximately eleven thousand dollars
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in cash. She worked with a broker, defendant, Eric Fleming,
and also the live in assistant defendant Iwamasa to distribute
this ketamine. Sonya and the broker defendant Fleming, saw this
as an opportunity to profit off of mister Perry, and
a text message the broker wrote, quote, I wouldn't do
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it if there wasn't a chance of me making some
money for doing this. Defendant Sonya sold the batch of ketamine.
The resulted in mister Perry's death on October twenty eight.
Officers later searched defendant Sonya's home. During that search, they
found what amounted to a drug selling emporium. They found
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eighty vials of ketamine, thousands of pills containing methamphetamine, cocaine,
bottles of xanax, and other illegally obtained prescription drugs, and
drug selling paraphernalia, including scales and ledgers.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They'd referred to it using.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Terms such as quote doctor Pepper, or quote bots or
quote cans.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Also, defendants Placentia.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And Chavez, as medical doctors, knew full well this was
not the proper way to administer ketamine, and they even
talked about that in their exchanges, and Sognya also knew
that she was doing something that caused great risk to
mister Perry. In fact, during this investigation, we learned that
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several years before, in twenty nineteen, defendant Sonia had sold
ketamine to another customer. That person died the same day,
and a family member of that person sent a message
to defendant Sonya telling her the cause of death was ketamine. Nonetheless,
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Defendant Sonya continued selling drugs, including ketamine, including the ketamine
that ultimately killed mister Perry. That other victim was a
person named Cody McLaury.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He died in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
As a result of this investigation, we have filed a
drug distribution charge related to the death of mister McLaury.
After mister Perry died, these defendants tried to cover up
what they had done. On October twenty eighth, after reading
news reports of mister Perry's death, defendant Sonya wrote a
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text message to defend it Fleming, saying quote delete.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
All our messages. Likewise.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
After Minister Perry's death, defendant Placentia falsified medical records and
notes to try to make it look like what he
was doing was legitimate.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We filed numerous federal charges against the five defendants. These
charges include conspiracy to distribute ketamine, distribution of ketamine resulting
in death, maintaining drug involved premises for that drug selling emporium,
the defendant Soigna had altering and falsifying records related to
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a federal investigation for those false medical notes and records
that defendant Placentia made, and multiple other drug trafficking counts.
Of course, the defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
The penalties these defendants fail are very significant. With their
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guard to defendant Placentia, the statutory maximum sentence he faces
is one hundred and twenty years in federal prison. Now,
with their guard to defendant Sonia, the statutory maximum she
faces is life in prisonment. By filing these extensive and
serious charges, we are sending a clear message if you
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are in the business of selling dangerous drugs, we will
hold you accountable for the deaths that you cause.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
This is nothing new for US.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Since twenty twenty two, my office has filed over sixty
cases against drug dealers who've caused the death of another person.
These cases are known as death resulting cases. Their labor
intensive cases, and we work with our law enforcement partners,
including ones represented here today, to bring those cases.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Our office is a national leader in bringing those cases.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They're very important because every victim's live counts. If you
are in the drug selling business and you're selling dangerous drugs,
you are playing roulette with other people's lives, just like
the five defenders here did to mister Perry.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Defendants nowadays are.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
On full notice that the products they sell could result
in the death of another person. Therefore, if you're in
the drug business, and despite these risks you continue in
the drug business, you are pushed by greed to gamble
with other people's lives, be advised we will hold you accountable.
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I want to think our partners in this case, the
Los Angeles Police Department, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the
US Postal Inspection Service. These investigators did a phenomenal job
digging into the case, looking at every angle to develop
a case, a strong case against not only those who
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killed mister Perry, but also mister McLaury. I want to
note that these cases are important and will continue to
collaborate with our law enforcement partners to bring them to
ensure that justice is brought to every victim. And finally,
let me thank the prosecutors responsible for the investigation and
the prosecution of this case. Those are assistant in United
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States Attorneys Ian Yannello and Shaohan Sigh. And now I'd
like to introduce Chief of Los Angeles Police Department, Dominic CHOI.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
All right, good morning, and thank you Martin.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know, while it's a tragedy that brings us all
here together, I'm happy to stand here knowing that these
dangerous individuals are no longer on the streets and.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They won't be able to harm anyone else.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The Los Angeles Police Department and our partners here today
were committed.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
To investigating all cases like this, and.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It's regardless of someone's background or socioeconomic status. And just
with all of our cases, this investigation was done impartially.
We let the facts drive this investigation, and those facts
led us to a group of individuals who were responsible
for supplying and distributing to mister Perry narcotics that led
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to his unfortunate and untimely death. The group standing here today,
it's a prime example how our partnerships and our collaboration
can yield meaningful results. I want to thank lapd Our
Robbery Homicide Division, who's standing in the back there, the
US Attorney Martinez Strada and his team, the DEA and
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her team, as well as the US Postal Special Service
and their team for their hard work, diligence, and real pay.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I know people think this took a long time, but
there was a lot of work, a lot of investigative
strategies that went into this to make sure that there's
a solid case and that we can pursue this in
the courts. Our relationship with our federal partners it helps
us ensure that these criminals will have meaningful sentences and
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be an example for anyone that is willing to risk
or jeopardize distributing and supplying unlawful or narcotics to anyone.
And I just really want people to know that that
is the message. You cannot get away with this, regardless
of your backgrounder socio economic status, breaking the laws, breaking
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the law, and you are dangerous and you are jeopardizing lives.
So thank you all all my partners for being involved
in this and being bringing us to where we are
at today. And at this time I'd like to introduce
Dea Administrator and Milgrim.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Good morning.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Today we announced charges brought against five individuals who together
are responsible for the death of Matthew Perry. Each of
the defendants played a key role in his death. They
falsely prescribed, sold, or injected the ketamine that caused Matthew
Perry's tragic death. In the United States, most forms of
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ketamine are only approved by the Food and Drug Administration
for anesthesia. A nasal spray version is approved for treatment
of depression, but only in a certified medical setting. Here,
Matthew Perry sought treatment for depression and anxiety and went
to a local clinic where he became addicted to intervenous ketemine.
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When clinic doctors refused to increase his dosage, he turned
to unscrupulous doctors who saw Perry as a w to
make quick money. Doctor Placentia, doctor Chavez violated the oath
they took to care for their patients. Instead of do
no harm, they did harm so that they could make
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more money without performing any medical evaluation or monitoring. They
supplied Matthew Perry with large amounts of ketamine in exchange
for large sums of money, charging Perry two thousand dollars
for a vial that cost doctor Chavez approximately twelve dollars.
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As Matthew Perry's ketamine addiction grew, he wanted more, and
he wanted it faster and cheaper. That is how he
ended up buying from street dealers who sold the ketamine
that ultimately led to his death. In doing so, he
followed the arc that we have tragically seen with many
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others whose substance use disorder begins in a doctor's office
and ends in the street. Perry turned to a street dealer,
Eric Fleming, who sourced his ketemine from a drug trafficker
known as the ketamine Queen, Jazzvin Sangha. The ketamine supplied
by Sangha would ultimately be the dose that took Matthew
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Perry's life. Songhan knew that the ketamine she supplied could
be deadly, since in twenty nineteen she had sold ketamine
to Cody mclaurie.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Didn't compare notes, did they? A let of repeat information?
We're listening to a press conference out of downtown, LA.
Five defendants have been charged in connection with the ketamine
related death of actor Matthew Perry. Unscrupulous doctors that just
wanted the money and did not care about the life.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And includes what two doctors and a woman who was
known as the ketamine Queen, plus Perry's live an assistant.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, everybody was on the take on this, So let's
hear some more here.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Aviation, exploitation by those who should have guided him toward help.
This betrayal of trust is at the heart of this tragedy.
Since twenty twenty three, DEA has investigated nearly five hundred
drug poisoning and overdose cases, just like Matthew Perry's.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
We run a national initiative known as.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Od Justice, where we work with our state and local
law enforcement partners to conduct investigations after someone has passed away.
And it is important to note that the national model
we today have in every fifty state across the United
States is based on the work that started here in
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Los Angeles. We began this work with our partners in
the Los Angeles Police Department and with other local police
departments and sheriff's offices in California. In the Los Angeles
area and with the US Attorney's Office, and today it
stands as our nation model for this critical work. Together,
as part of OD Justice, we work to bring justice
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for the lives that have been lost and to stop
others from dying. Regardless of the size or scope of
a drug distribution network, the DEA will work NonStop to
uncover and disrupt this illegal activity, and in this case,
the deadly activity. I want to close by noting that
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Matthew Perry's death is not just a tragic overdose. After
his twenty twenty book openly discussed his struggles with substance
use disorder, Matthew Perry told podcast host Tom Power that
he would prefer to be remembered for helping people rather
than for his work on friends as Chandler bing and
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so perhaps what has happened and the tragic details that
we are discussing today can help others and save lives.
I want to thank the Los Angeles Police Department, the
United States Postal Inspection Service, and the United States Attorney's
Office in the Central District of California for their tremendous
partnership and their outstanding dedication to this case.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I also have the.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Privilege of serving every single day with the men and women.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, we'll pull away from this now. Will monitor any
questions that they ask, any pertinent information that comes out.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
But they laid out a lot of details here.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Of course, this is about the arrests that dropped this
morning involving the death of actor Matthew Perry. US attorney
Martinus Strada came out first, and five defendants have been
charged in connection with this ketamine related death. The defendants,
like you said, Leila, a live in assistant, two doctors,
and a woman known as the Ketamine Queen, that they're
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all part of a broad underground criminal network that supplied
ketamine to Perry and other people. That they took advantage
of his addiction to enrich themselves. It felt like a
punch when they talked about how in the fall of
last year he fell back into addiction, right because everyone
knows somebody who is on the on that cliff and
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can take one step in the wrong direction and fall
off of it, and.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
They capitalize on that.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
And we heard early on from Martin Estrada about how
what he says, doctor Chavez, along with the other doctor,
doctor Salvador Placentia worked together right away to give Perry
twenty vals of ketamine for fifty five thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That's where we started with this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, I think that one of the shocking moments is
when they announced that these doctors were charging Matthew Perry
two thousand dollars of vial for what cost them twelve
dollars to obtain.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And then investigators see these text messages right, which I
always go back to. People are always leaving trails, allegedly
in this case, with text messages right saying that I
wonder how much this moron will pay referring to Perry
in order to get his hands on the ketamine.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, and you think that if you were breaking the
law knowingly, if you had what they laid out that
this woman had, which was a drug emporium with all
sorts of drugs, eighty vials of ketamine, meth pills, cocaines,
annex other prescriptions.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Scales, ledgers.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
If you were operating a drug selling emporium, you would
be smart enough to know that your text messages can
be used against you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
I will in the future.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's always shocking to me that people don't know that
who are engaged in criminal enterprises. The US attorney Martinis
Strata laid out how yes, ketamine is used legitimately but
also illegally, that it can cause a disassociation from reality,
serious health problems, respiratory issues, that it's a drug that
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must be administered by medical professionals, and that that did
not occur here. Not only does it need to be
administered by medical professionals, but you have to be under
the monitoring of said professionals.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And what they're saying in this investigation is that these
doctors are dropping off the Keademy and then having Perry's
live in assistant monitor his use of Kademy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Who has zero medical training whatsoever, and sending the text
message that the doctor sent quoting here. I wonder how
much this moron will pay. That is damning the fact
that he wanted to be the sole source of Matthew
Perry's supply. He wanted to be the go to guy,
despite the fact they knew the danger. And that's where
(21:40):
they're going to get into real problems, because there's proof
that these two doctors weren't just prescribing this willy nilly
for profit. Because you can find doctors to help out
rich people all the time. Look at the whole world
of concierge concierge medicine, that's essentially what it is. But
if you know the things that you're prescribing is dangerous,
if you've seen it be dangerous in the past, and
(22:03):
you know that, and yet you do it despite it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
As they laid.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Out, not only are you doing no harm, you know
you are doing harm.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yep. The Turnia shadow was talking about how in one case,
doctor Placinia was had seen Perry freeze up after it
managing the ketamine, was still left more and still continue
to supply him with it, and this is the month
in which he died, and also said that he told
another patient that Perry was spiraling out of control, but
again continue to supply the kedemy.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And the other thing that came out of this press
conference is one of the people who sold the ketamine,
the what's her name, the ketamine Queen, that she had
sold it to somebody else in twenty nineteen, a customer
who died the same day that she sold him the ketamine,
and that a family member texted the ketamine Queen to say, hey,
the cause of death was your drugs. She knew that,
(22:54):
she knew there was a chance that somebody else could
die from the same drug and yet continue to supply
Perry with these with these drugs, but that the guy
that died in twenty nineteen, they have filed a charge
at least one related to his death as well.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Her name is jefs being Sanga. I think I'm saying
that correctly, Jess Been Senga. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
And even the text messages listen, so the encrypted messages,
which I don't think we're really that the cult language.
They were using doctor Pepper and cans and bots and
referring to Perry as you know what, mister p.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
That's not really really cryptic if you're you.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Know yeah, And it was really heartbreaking. Anne Milgram, as
a DEA administrator there that spoke at the end the
way she said that, you know, Matthew Perry's addiction problems
were well documented in his twenty twenty book, and that
he went on a podcast and said, I don't prefer
to be remembered as Chandler bing on friends. I prefer
(23:51):
to be someone who's remembered for helping people. And I
think he helped a lot of people with that book.
He fell back into addiction. Now we know, and unfortunately
in death, will probably help a lot of people at
least shut down this part of this web drug dealing
web that we know about operating in Hollywood. It'll be
interesting to see if any other names come out of this.
(24:13):
Interesting and heartbreaking as well, if there's other addictions to follow.
Lay La Muhammad in with me today, Gary taking his
daughter moving out of state. So there's something with that,
I know, popa big life changes there. We are learning
this hour about Matthew Perry's death and what led up
to it, and it is so gross, Like I think
you've said a couple times off the air, like people
(24:35):
are horrible.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
This is an example of horrible humans. So you're watching
someone really lead to their own demise. You're assisting in that.
You continue to give this person the thing that's killing
them and watch them.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You knew he had addiction problems, you're living at his
house as a living assistant, and you're injecting him with
ketamine knowing that he is susceptible to doing too much.
I mean, that is what we learned that Matthew Perry's
living assistant injected him with ketamine the day that he died,
(25:07):
that the doctor that was prescribing it injected him one time,
saw him freeze up, the blood pressure spike, the telltale
signs things are going wrong, that he's had too much,
but proceeded to leave more drugs at the house for
this assistant to inject him. Parry with no medical training,
and the price gouging that he bought in the weeks
(25:30):
leading up to his death when he fell back into
addiction in October of last year, spent like seventy thousand
dollars on these vials of ketamine, vials that he was
paying two thousand dollars a piece for when the street
value is twelve dollars.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
A piece in the US Attorney's office saying we have
the text messages to back this up as part of
our investigations. Some conversations happening between the doctor's calling Peri
and Moron and seeing how much he will pay, willingly
knowing that he would, knowing that he was freezing up
during one administering of the ketamine, and still providing him
with more. It's just a sad ending to a story
(26:08):
that happened really quickly between September and October.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. It did happen very quickly.
That's just how quick addiction can catch up, catch back
up with you to your demise, especially when you're being
helped along the way. You have enablers who just want
to profit off of you. They don't care about you. Well,
there was an article in the La Times, and here
is the headline, Can cash and recess return absent students
(26:35):
to school?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Recess recess? The idea is.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
This, who's calling for that? Recess was a scary place.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I enjoyed recess.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Recess was taken from us when things were out of
hand and you know, on campus or if there were
fights or you know, kids were getting in trouble for
whatever reason, they'd say, Okay, no recess today. But for
the most part, that wasn't an incentive to go to school.
I wasn't going to school for recess.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Recess for minds, no, I was not either. Reasons reminds
me of like boys that through the dodgeball too hard
and that hurt the good time for girls to be
bullying and do shady stuff.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
I don't think that would be incentive.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But in California, one in four students were chronically absent
in twenty twenty two to twenty three. That means they
missed at least ten percent of the school year. That
is comparable to the national average. And it was a
little worse at LAUSD with one in three. And obviously
school systems that have higher numbers of low income families
tend to have worse attendance.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
So they go through all this in this story, and
I get that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Some states are looking for some solutions, and of course
here in California, we're also looking for our solutions. But
the common threat I think with all of these states
who are having issues with attendance is that things have
not returned to somewhat normal since the pandemic. Schools are
struggling to get kids back into seats in school and
to care enough to keep coming back in person when
(27:58):
they've already been at home for what a year or
two doing virtual classes, and Phil and like, I don't
really have to show up in person to get the
same results.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
I can stay home.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So in Oakland, chronic absenteeism skyrocketed from twenty nine percent
pre pandemic to fifty three percent to your point, after
the pandemic. So the district in Oakland asked students what
would convince them to come to class?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Gus, who's asking students for their opinion on what's going
to convince them with it?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Where your parents?
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Orangement school exactly? And the students replied bribery. They said
money and a mentor So a grand funded program that
was launched in spring of last year paid forty five
students fifty dollars a week for perfect attendance.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Fifty dollars a week.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
That is real money. That's a that's a lot of money.
Are they putting that into a savings account the school?
Are they doing something like that for those kids? Are
just giving them fifty bucks?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I think they're just giving them the money? What good
is that kind of thing? Our incentive was that certificate.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
At the end of the school year, we walk across
the stage usual a paper that says perfect attendance, right,
and you may have gotten a letter from the president
or something like that back then.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, yeah, I know of people who want their kids
to focus on school, so they'll give them an allowance
because they can't keep down an after school job and
go to school. I understand that, But the actual school
paying to get the kids butts and the seats, and
(29:33):
I mean to follow the money here. Really, they've got
skin in the game. The school districts do because they
get paid when the kids are in class.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, it's hard to convince mom and dad they should
send a couple of packs of computer printer paper and
some Kleenex and Chlorox for the school. But you're going
to pay my kid fifty bucks to come to class.
But you can't help the teacher put fifty dollars of
supplies in their classroom. It's not adding up or making sense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
If my kid came home with fifty dollars a week
from school, that would be in my pocket or like.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I said, a savings account. But that's a saving the solution.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I just They were talking about this program called I Attend,
which is at LAUSD, and it's an outreach program where
they the district staff reaches out to families to say, hey,
haven't seen your kid in a while, or or you know,
showing up to people's homes finding ways to help kids
find bus routes. That may assist a parent who has
several kids with different drop off times and they're, oh,
bless you, and they're running late.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Taking all the kids to school.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Okay, that's nice to have programs like that, but the
incentive can't be I'm paying you to come to school.
This is not a by the way, this is not
a K through twelve problem in the higher education realm. Yeah,
this is still a problem. Right last semester follow me
on this. I thought i'd do something different, not to
(30:48):
be like a cool professor, because I don't care if
you all think I'm cool. I got a job to do,
but to just say, these are adults, I'm going to
work with them and not put a very strict attendance
policy in the syllabi. Worst decision of my semester. Really,
I had the most stressful year, actually not even the
whole year, the most stressful spring semester with this trial
(31:11):
that I did.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
With that, I will never do it again. What happened?
What did the syllabus used to say? And then what?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
For example, you get to set the rules, right, so
if a class is an hour and a half or
hour and fifteen minutes, maybe you will allow four absences,
and then it starts to affect your grade because if
a student's meeting you two to three days a week,
four absences over the course of a semester.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
It's not a whole lot, right, I mean, things happen
fifteen or ten. I can't go back.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And reteach you all the stuff you missed, right, and
you can't look at me crazy?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
And you know, did you.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Say to them, we're all adults here. I'm going to
put it in your court on first day then, And
that's how they respond.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I say, now, listen to me. Professor m is going
to do something different. I say that because they don't
call me Layla. They call me various things. Professor image is.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
What I call myself.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm going to try very I'm gonna try something new
because you're an adults, and I know you know this
one class we were meeting Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
First of all, I learned college students don't come to
class in LA when it's sunny and it's Friday. You
better hang that upright, figure out an online a lecture
or send them an assignment. I learned that quickly. But
what I did put into their breakdown or they're grade
was participation accounts for like fifteen percent in class assignments.
If you're not there, you can't participate or do the assignments.
(32:28):
So it does affect your greade, but it doesn't say
if you missed ten classes you felt never again.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Wow, So what did you do with those? Did you
have to flunk them? Or I'll send out a little no.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Hey, buddy, you've missed fifteen classes, and I you know
you're missing some very important lectures. I am not putting
office hours aside to reteach you. I don't get paid
enough for that, first of all, and there are.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Fifty of you.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I can't give you all that individual tutoring because you
chose to miss class. So I had to have some
real tough talks, and some of them got it together.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
They showed up after that. They got smart.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
They realized I did quizzes on Wednesday, so they never
missed a Wednesday. They're smart, just like the students in
the story.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Begin of Traveling. We got some tear in the skies.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Flight near York lay the day rather get off my
plane Proger Rogers's Victor Victor is en I have had.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
With these munkey pipe snakes on this money.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the skies on KFY.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now I was a little surprised that they would have
an emergency landing for this situation.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Really, But when I started thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
About it, I thought, well, that would make me happy
if I was a board.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
It's it's a health hazard essentially, right, Yes, I would
think so. I mean, I don't know how these things jump.
I don't know either, but I do wouldn't want to
find out.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I remember being in school and they would do
the thing with the popsicle sticks and they would look
in your hair and stuff.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
I never did.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's just the thing I've always been told. Don't know
if this is true. I'm not a doctors, so don't
yell at me. But I've always been told my hair texture,
it was never a concern. Okay, there's something about our
hair texture of black women or black people in general
that lice is not. Really not saying never, yeah, I'm
just saying it was never concerned as a kid or
(34:16):
anything like. Oh, like we didn't have life talks, right.
I just don't know if it's the hair grease or
the hair texture or what. But well, thank you lord,
it's good. See now you'll feel good moving about the cabin.
But I remember just a couple of times, maybe like
you know, maybe twice going through elementary school where they
would you know, one kid would report that they had
(34:37):
lice or the parents would and so then that everyone
was checked or whatever. But anyway, LA to New York
American Airlines flight made an emergency landing in Phoenix because
passengers saw lice crawling in a woman's hair midair. Now,
it must have been a lot for people to aren't
those like tiny and by the way, the black hair
(34:58):
lice thing, Yes, I know it's a myth, but I
don't get through.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I did.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
They're like, like girls, stop playing. Don't get people. I'm
not trying to.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Get false We have enough people giving us false information
on a daily basis on TV.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
You don't need it from me.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
But I can imagine, Shannon, it had to be several
things running around for people to see that.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Now I'm itching, I'm doing this too.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I'm like, damn it.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Those kids can say those Jacob, oh my god, so good.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Anyway, but I have to imagine there had to be
several little little lights rolling around.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Like I don't think I've ever seen. No, I'm gonna
google that.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
A passenger put it on TikTok, so I try to
pull it up. I don't have the TikTok.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
I don't either. I don't China in my right. I
want to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I already buy things direct from China. I don't need
them in my phone.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
If you already buy things direct, it's it's a lost call.
Get the TikTok.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
But they said it was pure confusion and people were
recording it like what is happening, and uh they had
to know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Oh my god, look at some of these pictures. Yeah,
that's bad. That's not good. Those are moving, those are big.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
The person in the video says Ethan, He goes, I
look around, no one else, No one's on the ground.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No one's freaking out. I'm like, it can't be that dire.
But we land.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
As soon as we land, this woman across the alphamy
shoots up and rushes to the front of the plane,
and everyone's like freaking out about that.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
We saw lice. We saw lice.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
And two girls saw the bugs crawling on the woman's
hair and told the flight attended like, look, come get
this lady.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know, if this was an Albuquerque to Kansas City flight,
it may not have caused such a stir. But it's
the bougie La to New York flight.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Don't say it is.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Don't say that I think anyone who would see this. Okay,
let's dig a little deeper. Things happen on the plane
that we have no control over. Sometimes the person next
to you bring stinky food, or sometimes they're just stinky.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
There are a lot of things that happen.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
You can't just get up and move because the person
you has bo or their food smells bat I had
someone who sat in front of my row who got sick.
Thank the Lord, we were just about to take off
and had not already been there. And I mean she
got and you're sitting oh, and god, thankfully I wasn't
in that window, see, because that poor guy next to me,
(37:18):
his stuff was ruined on the floor.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
They moved us all.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
They made her get off the plane, and I think
her fillings were They're like, we can't risk you doing
this again, and there you have to go, lady. Sorry,
And they deep clean, but they had to bring a
whole crew onto deep cleaning our seats and everything bio hazard.
They offered us, you know, free beverages and stuff for
the rest of the flight. But we were just like,
I'm like every ready to get off this plane.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I have a hard time seeing or hearing someone throw up.
It was bad, it was bad.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So if I saw someone with lice, I would definitely
push the call button. Well, the only airline that really
has a call button now probably is United with those
old planes. But you know, I would definitely alert the
flight attendant and say, come get you know, the last
delight lady.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
The last flight I was on, I sat in the
window and it was a two and two and so
there was a woman next to me and she had
about a fourteen month old son and he had needed
a diaper change. She handed me the soiled baby and
she asked you to hell, I'm holding baby. I know.
I'm like, profile me please. A flight attendant sees the
(38:16):
look on my face. Rush is back, I'm holding the
baby out like this, rushes back. She's like, I have
a seat for you, come with me. I'm like, thank you.
Movie to first class, close to close to it.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
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Speaker 5 (38:32):
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