August 26, 2024 • 31 mins
Gary and Shannon talk about closing arguments in the Tom Girardi criminal trial. Gary and Shannon also talk about the possible closure of Langers Deli. KFI’s Steve Gregory joins the show to talk about new resources California firefighters will be able to use.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Laughed out loud in the kitchen
this morning when I noticed that the La Times did
a six page story on a man whose goats were
taken away by animal services in Los Angeles. Did we
ask do we need six pages on the goat napping?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're finding some stuff to write on and we know
that that's.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Important, so we'll get into that plate.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
One of Gaza's last functioning hospitals has been emptying out.
Israel has ordered the evacuation of some nearby areas. Israel
signaled a possible ground operation in a town that has
largely been spared throughout the war that was ignited by
Hamas's October seventh attack. The Alaxa Martyr's Hospital is the
main hospital that serves the central part of Gaza, and
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the Israeli military is not ordered that the hospital be evacuated,
but patients and some people sheltering there said it may
be caught up in the fighting or possibly even targeted
in a raid.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we told you on Friday about Tom Girardi taking
the stand in his wire fraud trial, the final witness
called by his lawyers to testify, claiming he did that
every client of his got every penny that every client
was supposed to get. They say that he suffers from
dementia but was deemed able to assist in his own defense.
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The defense is that it's the now closed firm's former
bookkeeper that is in trouble. First that is responsible for
stealing at least fifteen million dollars from former clients, spending
it on private jets, jewelry and other things.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And then that guy Chris Cayman is also facing several
charges too.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, and I'm not sure how it works if Chris
Cayman is the one getting the blame for this when
there are receipts that they can show that a lot
of it went to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
star Erica Jane a star very loosely, she's featured on
the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, and the public defender that's working on Tom Girardi's
behalf said that Girardi was forgetful, he got more and
more confused as the years went by, and that that
bookkeeper Chris came and took advantage of the fact that
he was diminished mentally.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He is eighty five now.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Tom Girardi, former plaintiff's lawyer, ex owner of that firm.
Girardi keys the most connected lawyer you could argue in
La County for sure, up and down the state.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Really he could yield power.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This was a guy who, if you wanted to be
a judge in this state, you'd have to kiss the ring.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Very very well connected.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And this is all about him using the client trust
accounts as his personal piggy bank. These are people who
lost loved ones and plane crashes, people that were injured
to the point of not being able to leave their
house or use their legs again. And they would say, sorry,
we haven't We just haven't gotten the check yet, while
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all the time they had the check and they were
spending the check's register.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
His appearance, I guess on Thursday was enough to give
the public defender the ability. And I don't know why
you'd put him on the stand. I mean, because he's
not a sympathetic character, yes, but he is. He has
that charisma.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
He is one of those people comes across very likable
and if he gets on the stand and he is
this adult, older man with dementia but still has that likability.
I think that goes a long way if you can
get up there and pretend enough that you don't know
you know that this is day taco.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like if you get up and you appear to be
so out of it that there's and a likable guy.
He's got this affable, like almost Midwestern type of affectation
about him. And if you can do that and then
show that you have diminished mind capacity, they're probably going
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to be more likely to side with you that you
didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And we saw something along these lines in Lee Baccha's trial,
a former sheriff in lam Yes, And I thought it
was interesting because the public defender put Tom Girardi on
the stand and asked him questions like is your law
firm still open? And he said, yes, it is not,
it is not. And then he said Tom, what's my name?
(04:47):
And Tom Girardi replied from the witness stand, I don't know, bad,
mean terrible.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's one of those.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, So I mean the public defender and I don't
know what sort of discussions go on between and Tom Girardi.
But if your point is to put him on the
stand and make an example of him and show him
in diminished capacity, you give him the suggestion, Hey, I'm
gonna ask you some pretty simple questions, and if you
get them a little bit wrong, maybe you look a
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little bit more sympathetic in the eyes of the jury.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean, this is somebody who has done enough favors
for people where he does not need to live a
destitute life. They are all in with this destitute life narrative.
He's living in a nursing home in Orange County, and
not even a good one from what I've heard. He's
appearing to be dishoveled. Somebody who was always dressed to
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the nines and very much cared about his appearance is
now wearing like a homeless get up with a mismatched
suit jacket and shirt and pants, and he's disheveled. His
shirt's on.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Tough to me. They're selling it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're selling the fact that he has lost his mind
with the Alzheimer's or the dementia or whatever, and that
he's penniless.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
When this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
If they weren't trying to sell it, if he wasn't
in trouble with the law, he'd be just fine.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It also reminds me of Vincent Gigante, if you remember
the mob boss who was put on trial and then
was pretending to be crazy the entire time. Yeah, and
again I don't know if they're faking this with Tom Varrity,
but the idea that you would introduce it as as
a potential explanation for why things went wrong, that he
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was simply out of it, he was being taken advantage of,
or even if he did do some of these things,
it wasn't because he was in control of his own faculties.
So anyway, closing arguments today in that case, and we'll
see where it goes over the course of the next port.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
They are underway right now, they have begun. I was
surprised that this was such a quick case when you
think about all the victims and things. But you know,
with wirefraud, you just put an accountant up there and say, Okay,
this is where the money was, this is where it
was supposed to go, this is where it went. But
if he is convicted, you got to believe you're going
to hear from the victims in the sentencing phase. Tropical
(06:59):
Storm hone is starting to move away from Hawaii to
the southwest. Storm was centered one hundred and eighty miles
southwest of Honolulu one hundred and eighty five miles south
of La Hui. Sustained wins. We're at seventy miles per
hour with higher gusts. The storm is continued expected to
continue to gradually weekend today.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hey, Gary, that's outbreak movie is at t Bola? Yes, yes,
they weren't disseecting tarts in the laboratory. No, just clarifying,
thank you. I did conflate my ebolas and e.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Col Yes, I mean neither one is a good look.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Probably don't want either one.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Output with both of those.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I think he Coli is less likely to kill you
than ebola, but I don't think either one of them
would be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hear this Babe Ruth story about his jersey?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Who is that?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Who is spending twenty four million dollars on that jersey?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It is the Great Game, the Infamous called Shot Game
three of the nineteen thirty two World Series. It sold
at an auction house in New York for twenty four
million dollars. It surpasses a nineteen fifty two tops Mickey
Mantle baseball card that sold for twelve point six million dollars.
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Back in two thousand and five, that same jersey worn
by Babe Ruth sold for nine hundred and forty thousand dollars.
It was only known as the one he wore on
the road during the thirty two World Series against the Cubs.
Companies have photo matched it in recent years and discovered
he wore it in Game three when he pointed to
the outfield with the bat and hit a home run
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into center field.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Called his Shot.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Steve Lopez has a great article, a great column in
the La Times regarding.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Regarding Langers Deli.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I mean it's Langers Deli specifically, but generally it's about
the condition of pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I don't even want to a pocket.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The conditions of several areas of the city of Los
Angeles which have made everyday normal life untenable.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Norm Langer is a great guy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I interviewed him years ago because I did a feature
story on the best public ar restrooms. I don't know
where the genesis for that came. There was something Michael
Clark and I cooked up, but there oh, there was
kids who were there was an app, I think at
the time, a new app that was a public bathroom
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rating system. You go into the app and you could
rate public bathrooms. So I looked at the ones that
were great and the ones that were not. And I
went there and checked out the bathrooms, flushed the toilets,
you know, all the things that you do.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm trying to squeeze every little ounce of sound out.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh yeah, okay, it was a winner. It was the
best use of sound winner.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But I went to Langers because they had a five
star bathroom. And I interviewed Norm and he said, I'm
I'm so glad that we have five stars because I
just spent forty thousand dollars updating our bathrooms. And you know,
he went through the fact that, you know, his parents
got Langers or started Langers when he was a toddler.
(10:13):
And he said in this article, you know, I grew
up in MacArthur Park. He said, we go to the park,
we'd go for boat rides, we'd take naps. Older people
played shuffle board around there, backgammon, cards, whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Naps, naps. You were comfortable enough as a kid you
could take a nap.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Could you imagine that when I was a kid, I
was comfortable enough to take a nap, like under the
sun and the grass of whatever parks we grew up around,
Like that was an awesome feeling. I can't imagine feeling
like I want to take a nap in a public
park anywhere. Yeah, Ever, that would be something that would
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not even cross my mind to say, like, hey, let's
grab a blanket and let's go.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, like you go to the beach and you
do that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
You go hang out, but you would never be that
relaxed where you felt like you could take a name.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, people would come and steal all your stuff. They'd
kill you, they'd rob you.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And that's just the beginning.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
This is This is interesting because Steve Lopez writes, restaurants
come and go, but this wouldn't be just any business
going dark. Langers has been in La longer than the Dodgers,
longer than the Lakers. He describes it as an anchor
and institution and as a touchstone. But Langer says he's
tired of pushing the cart up the hill, of trying
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to get city officials to clean up the streets, to
restore public safety, to make MacArthur Park MacArthur Park again,
MPAGA make MacArthur Park great again rather than a place
to avoid I screwed up the lettering. Just listen, it's
still got some safe areas. If you keep your you
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know wits about you, it's probably going to be fine
for you to spend an hour or two in the
park there and not get robbed or killed or both.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So City Hall does have a big change in mind
for the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Remember we told you about this.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They have this proposal they announced last month to close
Wilshire Boulevard where it passes through MacArthur Park, span the
open spaces. But that's just expanding the problem of the
open drug market and crime.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's a joke.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, it's one of those things we talked about it
when we first saw that story. You want to then
take even fewer You want to make it harder for
people to go through there, which is I understand why.
I mean the idea that this is going to be
now an open space and it's a safer place. All
you do is invite more people to set up camp there.
(12:45):
And I don't just mean housing enthused, no housing challenged.
Is that what we're saying, Whatever it is, homeless people.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's not about housing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's about the drugs and the addiction and the mental
illness that goes unchecked. That's what it's about. I love
this quote here. Norm Langer said every man needs two things.
He needs a place to go when he gets up
in the morning, and he needs people who are dependent
on him. He said, I had lung cancer five times.
(13:17):
I've had the tops of both lungs removed. I've had
prostate cancer. I've had forty five radiation treatments. I've had
both knees replaced. But I'm here. I should be laying
down somewhere, but I'm not. Why Because I have a
place to go and I have people here who need me.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's great. That's a great quote, isn't it. That's so true.
It's got to go up in the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This is why I wanted to get the Hamster, because
it would be dependent on me.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Ah well, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't blame Langer's Deli for moving or leaving.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Took my family there last month.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
It was like Zombieville. Yeah, getting into the restaurant and
out of the restaurant, parked in that little parking lot
that they have for their restaurant. That area has just
gone downhill prior to that visit.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
We actually went during COVID.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And yeah, thirty seconds. We only have thirty seconds. That's sorry, Sorry,
got cut off. There's some good news fire wise in
the state of California. For one thing, that Park fire
burning up near Chico and places north of there finally contained,
not out, but it's not spreading. That And Steve Gregory's
(14:33):
going to join us in a few minutes and talk
about some of the new resources that are available to
the firefighter.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Man, I burned through all that fire country, all those
episodes on my flight back. Oh it's one of those
just Virgin River, dumb feel good stories.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But with fire, but with fire. Steve Gregory has joined us.
One of the big news items, and I mentioned this
before the top of the hour, is that the Park fire,
the one that's burning up near northern your Chico in
northern California, peaked out at about four hundred and twenty
nine thousand acres and is now one hundred percent contained.
There were thousands of crews that were working on that
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on that fire over the course of the last month
and a half or so, so that's great news. Doesn't
necessarily mean it stopped burning, but it is contained. They
have fire line built around all of it. So that's
what one hundred percent containment thing is. The other news
that Steve Gregory has been following is some new resources
that are going to be available to firefights.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Love seeing the C one thirty air tanker.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What is it about aircraft that we just all just
got at?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I know, I don't know. It's our lizard brain.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It is. We're like, oh my god, it flies, It's
so cool.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, not only that, when I've seen them at work,
it is it is.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I guess what do you mean you've seen them at work.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
When we're covering fires?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh that you meant like when you were sitting at work? No? No, no, no,
I mean I when I see them working. How's that?
Not when I'm working?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
When I see them working thirty or the decent it is,
it's proof that the powers that be are throwing whatever
they can at whatever this fire is to try to
prevent it from getting out of it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's nice to see a bureaucracy that works.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know if it feels like that when you're
in the fire service, but for a civilian. It's nice
to see people be efficient and functioning the way that
they should be functioning in terms of putting out fires.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Well, you know when we let's go back to twenty
twenty pandemic time and remember we were all here together.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was just a small group of us and we
got a ham Yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And you ripped it apart with your bare hands, and
then we ate.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It very manly, very manly.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It was very manhammy.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
But one of the things I kept talking about to
your point is that the politician should have stepped aside
during COVID and let the fire department, fire service come
in and handle it. Yeah, because they know how to
take care of crises. I mean they are experts at
this fire service, police service, all first responders. And in
this case, the C one thirty is one of seven
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that will be delivered to California courtesy of the US
Coast Guard over the next few years. Today the first
one thirty Hercules went into service. It will be based
in Sacramento, and it has the capability or the ability
to carry four thousand gallons of fire retardant or water
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and can be mobilized and airborne in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's impressive.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So it's just going to be a tanker. I mean yes,
because I know that that what do you call it?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That airframe has all kinds of different connection.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Configuration, right, and so the Coast Guard had it configured
for cargo, and so they redid it so that it
could could take on a tank much like those chinooks
that you see that the Colson has a helicopters, the
big double rotor helic coptor chotes. Those are configured where
you can remove the tank with in just under. Now
you can move the tank in hull you know, people
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or supplies, and the same hold is true for this one.
It's going to be primarily designed for water dropping because
the National Guard already has C one thirties to transport
troops or people or firefighters or whatever the case is,
and and CalFire has other means to do that. So
this is primarily a fire attack apparatus.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Is the Coastguard just are they getting new ones and
they're giving us their old ones or what?
Speaker 6 (18:29):
It's a surplus situation through the US Defense Act. It
was pastor assigned in the lock. I believe it was
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It was.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
It's like a federal age, a federal aid package where
they took old military surplus and they're re vamping them
and retrofitting them for fire use and for other safety features.
And in this particular case, California really uh really uh
you know, the won the lottery on this one, getting
seven of these over the next couple of years and
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then and they'll be stationed all throughout the state so
that they can be used where they think strategically those
kinds of equipment should be should be stationed.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
My assumption, we talk about the super Scoopers that come
in out of Canada every fire season, right, we watch
them as they come in, We see them in action
when we're when they're working, not when we're working, but
when they're working. These are going to be permanently part
of California. Specifical Firefires owns the arsenal. Yes, CalFire owns them.
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It is part of it, which is also the world's
largest collection of firefighting aircraft, and CalFire has the world's
largest collection airfire, airfire, air firefighting airpower. Sorry, you haven't
hour this morning. You haven't been in front of us
for a week. I mean it's probably.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, and I'm a little bothered, be nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Did you get your email today about the I'm in
the middle of it right now, are you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
It's like first thing when you open it says hello,
Steve Gregory, this is to let you know that California
anti harassment training has been added to your learning profile.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's the way it started my day.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It makes me want to harass everybody I see.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm just like, I'm glad you got it. Can I
give you an example?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Sure, you must come up with a strategy to improve
the quality of your work and help our team identify
new business opportunities. That's what Janet says to me. That's
an anti harassment No, so how would I classify Janet's comments?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Are they appropriate or inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Inappropriate? I don't want to be asked to do more stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And question two is it harassing sales behavior? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm not in sales.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Is that not harassing behavior? It's not harassing behavior. Oh gosh,
I got those wrong. It's so hard to figure out this.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, it is harassed.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
It isn't harassment for the sake of the test, but
it is harassment here at this company to.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Ask somebody to actually work. Oh my god, the gall
if you want to test Steve. We were in the
Chicago iHeart studio was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
See if you have no idea, it was gorgeous, like
Michigan and Florida. Ceiling windows, free cup of noodles, free
cup of noodles.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
In their snack room. They just have.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Shelves full of stuff that you take and you open
the refrigerator and there's just there's pizza.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I didn't see that. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Okay, so I got some ice for a whole freezer.
They had pepperoni pizza, they had sausage pizza, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Know how much it costs. You're glad you enjoyed your
work assignment. We talked about we were work, that's why working.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
We were not working.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then you know, so you dressed like you were
driving the jungle cruise thing.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
There was another show that was next to our show
for the week, and I was making fun of them
the whole time because they looked like they were actually
like seriously worked, like they were pretending.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't know what it was. I'm like, we do the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Same thing you do, but you make it seem like
it's so much more complicated, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What is this pre show meeting?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
We know what is this that's called commune vacation, But
what is this thing.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Where you're in the breaks and you're talking about what
you want to do next?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm like, it's just do we just have it easy?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Our other shows just not as as easy as well.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
What you have to ask is how do how do
they do in the numbers? I mean are they does
all the work pay off? Or maybe does all the
work pay off? Or does it just what is I
mean you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Got to where where are they from? Other? Other places?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Other places?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What do you mean other places in our company or
just another company?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Well, in some cases in our company, Well syndicated show.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It is a syndicated show, so maybe the work does
lead to well syndicated show.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
That's a lot of that's a lot of responsible kind
of numbers. Well, if it's syndicated, I mean presumably is
more than.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Two stages, right, So do you think Gary and I
should do more work? Then, like we should answer carefully
make this into a job.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Isn't it time for break? What are you still doing? Money?
In there?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I was never told I was done? Are you Are
you done with me? Or do you want to talk
about something else?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Let's talk about something mouse? What else do you got?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I want to I want to know if it's true
what that guy said on the air about you guys.
Were you day drinking? We're in Chicago? What's the definition?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, what is the definition?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Does that because I'm two hours we're two hours ahead
of anything.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you don't have to get defensive. I just asked
the question.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
What is I think our first cocktail was at like
six pm for Chicago time, right, right, We're not like
sitting at the convention drinking.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It wasn't a thing where you're like I could those
who would be fun with drinks, A bunch of people
who love politics walking around in their Trust Women shirts.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Like I feel like that would have been bad for
them if we started drinking and hackling people as they're
walking by.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, it's not like when we went to the ball game,
or like, let's get drinks immediately because it's fun and
we're at a ball Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Let's scratch that question forget. I asked it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was like diet coke give me all the diet
coke so I can get through.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
This, Maden, Well, I just what I'm going to ask
you is I've never been to one of those, and
I don't have any desire to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Was it as chaotic and crazy as it looked?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, so we got there early enough that we were
there sort of in the quiet times, but by the
time we left at the end of our show is
when the thousands of delegates and hangers on were coming
into the arena for the nights you know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Here it's progress. It was two hours ahead, right, yeah. Yeah,
So I would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Say out of all three conventions, I think Cleveland was
the one where it felt a little chaotic. And maybe
that's just because it was the first one we covered,
but also they had that pedestrian walkway and all the
security and all those threats and kind of more of
a of a vibe right out of the stadium with
restaurants and things like that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It felt I would say Cleveland felt more threatening than
any of the others. Noah, even though well because we
were for example, as we would leave the arena one day,
you kind of walk down this long alleyway and there's
some businesses and restaurants on both sides. We stopped in
one that it was the Cleveland Store or some sort
of you know, tourism catch and but the street out
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in front was immediately filled with people who were protesting,
and that was the That was really the only time.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
You can get a glimpse of any of the protesters
on this one. Yes, yeah, but it was the first day.
And that's the thing about it that it was not
a it never turned into a threatening event, and that
the protests that were there in Chicago were clearly handled
by Chicago PD.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That whole storyline was such a media driven one. It
always has been, ever since the pro Palestinian protests have
popped up. It's been the media that's been driving this
thing and making it bigger.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Be I like the story that we'd get here that
said man caught with gun three miles from the really
miles away and.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
At the point there was a guy barricaded around theresant,
and Oscar was like, oh, there's a barricaded guy. I'm like, dude,
that's a Tuesday in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
The amount of security that was available or was visible,
I should say, throughout downtown Chicago was amazing, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It felt very safe.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Did you have any security, Did you have any personal.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He kept saying that we should have security.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He was, Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It was kind of nice because as from our vantage
point in the arena or from in the concourse, basically
a lot of people had to walk right past us
to get to their CNN interview or whatever they were
going to do. So there would be some politicians, some
high end politicians, a high end being famous, not necessarily
they're good.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You had people like Senator Ben Carden who come in,
who came in nobody knew who he was, and he
had one person with him.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And then you had Nancy Pelosi come in and she
had six security people on top of the eight or
ten staffers thing in with her. So that group, that
huddle would make its way through.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
On my flight to Dallas after the convention, I sat
with two guys who do private security, and they were
there to be body people for media types, a couple
of media people.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I saw that a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah, who was your biggest get? Because I couldn't listen
every day, but who was your biggest get? The biggest get?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We did have one of the presidential candidates. I liked
Dean Phillips. Dean Phillips, No, I would agree with that.
He was the surprise Cornell West doctor Cornell West was
probably he.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Got us high.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I heard right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
But here's the thing, viaa Gosa got us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
We literally, y I remember him with you years ago.
I remember his little thing with you. What little thing,
a little crush on you? Oh stop it.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, he literally ran into us as we were entering
the arena and he was leaving. Yeah, and you remember
you then turn around and walked back with us to
go do that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
In so he so he's yeah, he walked back into
the place like he was done for And so he
wanted a microphone, you know, he wanted to do an interview,
and he said he was all pissed off because whoever
had booked him before we talked to him, they only
the interview was two minutes long. So he got ready
at the hotel, went through the rigmarole of going through
security getting to the arena, and they only kept him
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for two minutes. So he was happy to sit down
with us for as long as we wanted, and he
was he was actually really well focused and thought out.
I've never seen him like that before. I've never heard
he's had a lot of time practice. I figured out
it was when he was may or. He was caught
up on it, right, You covered him too, He was
all caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He was never hit on me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
He was caught up in the celebrity of it and
just never really focused. And now nobody's paying attention to
him really as he runs for governor, and so he
was hyper focused in that interview, and he sounded intelligent
for the first time.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
In my opinion, I think.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
He's had a lot of time to reflect, a lot
of time to reassemble. Yeah, you know who else is
going to run for governor?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Here?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Elandy coon Ilacus, Tony Thurman. Who's Tony THURMANU.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Lan that you're just making stuff up?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Look at you, California Politico is the lieutenant governor right now.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm just super.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
You don't remember when mayor of Vierorgosi used to flirt
with you?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
No, yes, he did, you know. Yeah, but you make
it sound like she was the only one and not
to well say that I can deserve it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
But thank god that she never fell to that trap,
because she'd be the one that was caught climbing over
the fence out of the mayor's mansion late at night.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, norap, not a trap.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's a trap. It's a trap. Great to see you,
Welcome back to you kids.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You know what, though, there was one story that came
out of his affair with the woman from Univision, and
it was when he was caught in the lobby of
her building with Chinese food. And I remember thinking that
sounds really good, like that's nice that he brought her
Chinese food.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh, I would like someone to bring me Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think what that whole time was hilarious? Was it
wasn't that hilarious? Remember sis? Yes, she went.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
On the air to announce his divorce when he was
they were banging.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And then what a mess? I asked.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I did ask him off the air, I go, who
are you dating? And he goes, he goes, I am
dating somebody, and he goes, but I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And I said to him, why make one miserable in
the media?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Is it still an anchor or reporter? I did ask, Oh, yeah,
we have to figure out if he's at the.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man's seventy one years old.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You know, he's seventy one. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Wow, I guess I didn't realize that. It seemed like
a lifetime ago we were covering him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, we were just kids. Yeah, you were. You've been
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on the iHeartRadio app. Laughed out loud in the kitchen
this morning when I noticed that the La Times did
a six page story on a man whose goats were
taken away by animal services in Los Angeles. Did we
ask do we need six pages on the goat napping?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're finding some stuff to write on and we know
that that's.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Important, so we'll get into that plate.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
One of Gaza's last functioning hospitals has been emptying out.
Israel has ordered the evacuation of some nearby areas. Israel
signaled a possible ground operation in a town that has
largely been spared throughout the war that was ignited by
Hamas's October seventh attack. The Alaxa Martyr's Hospital is the
main hospital that serves the central part of Gaza, and
(00:51):
the Israeli military is not ordered that the hospital be evacuated,
but patients and some people sheltering there said it may
be caught up in the fighting or possibly even targeted
in a raid.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we told you on Friday about Tom Girardi taking
the stand in his wire fraud trial, the final witness
called by his lawyers to testify, claiming he did that
every client of his got every penny that every client
was supposed to get. They say that he suffers from
dementia but was deemed able to assist in his own defense.
(01:27):
The defense is that it's the now closed firm's former
bookkeeper that is in trouble. First that is responsible for
stealing at least fifteen million dollars from former clients, spending
it on private jets, jewelry and other things.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And then that guy Chris Cayman is also facing several
charges too.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, and I'm not sure how it works if Chris
Cayman is the one getting the blame for this when
there are receipts that they can show that a lot
of it went to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
star Erica Jane a star very loosely, she's featured on
the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, and the public defender that's working on Tom Girardi's
behalf said that Girardi was forgetful, he got more and
more confused as the years went by, and that that
bookkeeper Chris came and took advantage of the fact that
he was diminished mentally.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He is eighty five now.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Tom Girardi, former plaintiff's lawyer, ex owner of that firm.
Girardi keys the most connected lawyer you could argue in
La County for sure, up and down the state.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Really he could yield power.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This was a guy who, if you wanted to be
a judge in this state, you'd have to kiss the ring.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Very very well connected.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And this is all about him using the client trust
accounts as his personal piggy bank. These are people who
lost loved ones and plane crashes, people that were injured
to the point of not being able to leave their
house or use their legs again. And they would say, sorry,
we haven't We just haven't gotten the check yet, while
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all the time they had the check and they were
spending the check's register.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
His appearance, I guess on Thursday was enough to give
the public defender the ability. And I don't know why
you'd put him on the stand. I mean, because he's
not a sympathetic character, yes, but he is. He has
that charisma.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
He is one of those people comes across very likable
and if he gets on the stand and he is
this adult, older man with dementia but still has that likability.
I think that goes a long way if you can
get up there and pretend enough that you don't know
you know that this is day taco.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like if you get up and you appear to be
so out of it that there's and a likable guy.
He's got this affable, like almost Midwestern type of affectation
about him. And if you can do that and then
show that you have diminished mind capacity, they're probably going
(04:19):
to be more likely to side with you that you
didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And we saw something along these lines in Lee Baccha's trial,
a former sheriff in lam Yes, And I thought it
was interesting because the public defender put Tom Girardi on
the stand and asked him questions like is your law
firm still open? And he said, yes, it is not,
it is not. And then he said Tom, what's my name?
(04:47):
And Tom Girardi replied from the witness stand, I don't know, bad,
mean terrible.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's one of those.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, So I mean the public defender and I don't
know what sort of discussions go on between and Tom Girardi.
But if your point is to put him on the
stand and make an example of him and show him
in diminished capacity, you give him the suggestion, Hey, I'm
gonna ask you some pretty simple questions, and if you
get them a little bit wrong, maybe you look a
(05:15):
little bit more sympathetic in the eyes of the jury.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean, this is somebody who has done enough favors
for people where he does not need to live a
destitute life. They are all in with this destitute life narrative.
He's living in a nursing home in Orange County, and
not even a good one from what I've heard. He's
appearing to be dishoveled. Somebody who was always dressed to
(05:38):
the nines and very much cared about his appearance is
now wearing like a homeless get up with a mismatched
suit jacket and shirt and pants, and he's disheveled. His
shirt's on.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Tough to me. They're selling it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're selling the fact that he has lost his mind
with the Alzheimer's or the dementia or whatever, and that
he's penniless.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
When this is somebody.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
If they weren't trying to sell it, if he wasn't
in trouble with the law, he'd be just fine.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It also reminds me of Vincent Gigante, if you remember
the mob boss who was put on trial and then
was pretending to be crazy the entire time. Yeah, and
again I don't know if they're faking this with Tom Varrity,
but the idea that you would introduce it as as
a potential explanation for why things went wrong, that he
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was simply out of it, he was being taken advantage of,
or even if he did do some of these things,
it wasn't because he was in control of his own faculties.
So anyway, closing arguments today in that case, and we'll
see where it goes over the course of the next port.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
They are underway right now, they have begun. I was
surprised that this was such a quick case when you
think about all the victims and things. But you know,
with wirefraud, you just put an accountant up there and say, Okay,
this is where the money was, this is where it
was supposed to go, this is where it went. But
if he is convicted, you got to believe you're going
to hear from the victims in the sentencing phase. Tropical
(06:59):
Storm hone is starting to move away from Hawaii to
the southwest. Storm was centered one hundred and eighty miles
southwest of Honolulu one hundred and eighty five miles south
of La Hui. Sustained wins. We're at seventy miles per
hour with higher gusts. The storm is continued expected to
continue to gradually weekend today.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hey, Gary, that's outbreak movie is at t Bola? Yes, yes,
they weren't disseecting tarts in the laboratory. No, just clarifying,
thank you. I did conflate my ebolas and e.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Col Yes, I mean neither one is a good look.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Probably don't want either one.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Output with both of those.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I think he Coli is less likely to kill you
than ebola, but I don't think either one of them
would be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hear this Babe Ruth story about his jersey?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Who is that?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Who is spending twenty four million dollars on that jersey?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It is the Great Game, the Infamous called Shot Game
three of the nineteen thirty two World Series. It sold
at an auction house in New York for twenty four
million dollars. It surpasses a nineteen fifty two tops Mickey
Mantle baseball card that sold for twelve point six million dollars.
(08:18):
Back in two thousand and five, that same jersey worn
by Babe Ruth sold for nine hundred and forty thousand dollars.
It was only known as the one he wore on
the road during the thirty two World Series against the Cubs.
Companies have photo matched it in recent years and discovered
he wore it in Game three when he pointed to
the outfield with the bat and hit a home run
(08:40):
into center field.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Called his Shot.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Steve Lopez has a great article, a great column in
the La Times regarding.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Regarding Langers Deli.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I mean it's Langers Deli specifically, but generally it's about
the condition of pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I don't even want to a pocket.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The conditions of several areas of the city of Los
Angeles which have made everyday normal life untenable.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Norm Langer is a great guy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I interviewed him years ago because I did a feature
story on the best public ar restrooms. I don't know
where the genesis for that came. There was something Michael
Clark and I cooked up, but there oh, there was
kids who were there was an app, I think at
the time, a new app that was a public bathroom
(09:34):
rating system. You go into the app and you could
rate public bathrooms. So I looked at the ones that
were great and the ones that were not. And I
went there and checked out the bathrooms, flushed the toilets,
you know, all the things that you do.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm trying to squeeze every little ounce of sound out.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh yeah, okay, it was a winner. It was the
best use of sound winner.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But I went to Langers because they had a five
star bathroom. And I interviewed Norm and he said, I'm
I'm so glad that we have five stars because I
just spent forty thousand dollars updating our bathrooms. And you know,
he went through the fact that, you know, his parents
got Langers or started Langers when he was a toddler.
(10:13):
And he said in this article, you know, I grew
up in MacArthur Park. He said, we go to the park,
we'd go for boat rides, we'd take naps. Older people
played shuffle board around there, backgammon, cards, whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Naps, naps. You were comfortable enough as a kid you
could take a nap.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Could you imagine that when I was a kid, I
was comfortable enough to take a nap, like under the
sun and the grass of whatever parks we grew up around,
Like that was an awesome feeling. I can't imagine feeling
like I want to take a nap in a public
park anywhere. Yeah, Ever, that would be something that would
(10:55):
not even cross my mind to say, like, hey, let's
grab a blanket and let's go.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, like you go to the beach and you
do that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
You go hang out, but you would never be that
relaxed where you felt like you could take a name.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, people would come and steal all your stuff. They'd
kill you, they'd rob you.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And that's just the beginning.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
This is This is interesting because Steve Lopez writes, restaurants
come and go, but this wouldn't be just any business
going dark. Langers has been in La longer than the Dodgers,
longer than the Lakers. He describes it as an anchor
and institution and as a touchstone. But Langer says he's
tired of pushing the cart up the hill, of trying
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to get city officials to clean up the streets, to
restore public safety, to make MacArthur Park MacArthur Park again,
MPAGA make MacArthur Park great again rather than a place
to avoid I screwed up the lettering. Just listen, it's
still got some safe areas. If you keep your you
(11:57):
know wits about you, it's probably going to be fine
for you to spend an hour or two in the
park there and not get robbed or killed or both.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So City Hall does have a big change in mind
for the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Remember we told you about this.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They have this proposal they announced last month to close
Wilshire Boulevard where it passes through MacArthur Park, span the
open spaces. But that's just expanding the problem of the
open drug market and crime.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's a joke.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, it's one of those things we talked about it
when we first saw that story. You want to then
take even fewer You want to make it harder for
people to go through there, which is I understand why.
I mean the idea that this is going to be
now an open space and it's a safer place. All
you do is invite more people to set up camp there.
(12:45):
And I don't just mean housing enthused, no housing challenged.
Is that what we're saying, Whatever it is, homeless people.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's not about housing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It's about the drugs and the addiction and the mental
illness that goes unchecked. That's what it's about. I love
this quote here. Norm Langer said every man needs two things.
He needs a place to go when he gets up
in the morning, and he needs people who are dependent
on him. He said, I had lung cancer five times.
(13:17):
I've had the tops of both lungs removed. I've had
prostate cancer. I've had forty five radiation treatments. I've had
both knees replaced. But I'm here. I should be laying
down somewhere, but I'm not. Why Because I have a
place to go and I have people here who need me.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's great. That's a great quote, isn't it. That's so true.
It's got to go up in the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This is why I wanted to get the Hamster, because
it would be dependent on me.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Ah well, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't blame Langer's Deli for moving or leaving.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Took my family there last month.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
It was like Zombieville. Yeah, getting into the restaurant and
out of the restaurant, parked in that little parking lot
that they have for their restaurant. That area has just
gone downhill prior to that visit.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
We actually went during COVID.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And yeah, thirty seconds. We only have thirty seconds. That's sorry, Sorry,
got cut off. There's some good news fire wise in
the state of California. For one thing, that Park fire
burning up near Chico and places north of there finally contained,
not out, but it's not spreading. That And Steve Gregory's
(14:33):
going to join us in a few minutes and talk
about some of the new resources that are available to
the firefighter.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Man, I burned through all that fire country, all those
episodes on my flight back. Oh it's one of those
just Virgin River, dumb feel good stories.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But with fire, but with fire. Steve Gregory has joined us.
One of the big news items, and I mentioned this
before the top of the hour, is that the Park fire,
the one that's burning up near northern your Chico in
northern California, peaked out at about four hundred and twenty
nine thousand acres and is now one hundred percent contained.
There were thousands of crews that were working on that
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on that fire over the course of the last month
and a half or so, so that's great news. Doesn't
necessarily mean it stopped burning, but it is contained. They
have fire line built around all of it. So that's
what one hundred percent containment thing is. The other news
that Steve Gregory has been following is some new resources
that are going to be available to firefights.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Love seeing the C one thirty air tanker.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
What is it about aircraft that we just all just
got at?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I know, I don't know. It's our lizard brain.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It is. We're like, oh my god, it flies, It's
so cool.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, not only that, when I've seen them at work,
it is it is.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I guess what do you mean you've seen them at work.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
When we're covering fires?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh that you meant like when you were sitting at work? No? No, no, no,
I mean I when I see them working. How's that?
Not when I'm working?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
When I see them working thirty or the decent it is,
it's proof that the powers that be are throwing whatever
they can at whatever this fire is to try to
prevent it from getting out of it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's nice to see a bureaucracy that works.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know if it feels like that when you're
in the fire service, but for a civilian. It's nice
to see people be efficient and functioning the way that
they should be functioning in terms of putting out fires.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Well, you know when we let's go back to twenty
twenty pandemic time and remember we were all here together.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was just a small group of us and we
got a ham Yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And you ripped it apart with your bare hands, and
then we ate.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It very manly, very manly.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It was very manhammy.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
But one of the things I kept talking about to
your point is that the politician should have stepped aside
during COVID and let the fire department, fire service come
in and handle it. Yeah, because they know how to
take care of crises. I mean they are experts at
this fire service, police service, all first responders. And in
this case, the C one thirty is one of seven
(17:11):
that will be delivered to California courtesy of the US
Coast Guard over the next few years. Today the first
one thirty Hercules went into service. It will be based
in Sacramento, and it has the capability or the ability
to carry four thousand gallons of fire retardant or water
(17:32):
and can be mobilized and airborne in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's impressive.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So it's just going to be a tanker. I mean yes,
because I know that that what do you call it?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That airframe has all kinds of different connection.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Configuration, right, and so the Coast Guard had it configured
for cargo, and so they redid it so that it
could could take on a tank much like those chinooks
that you see that the Colson has a helicopters, the
big double rotor helic coptor chotes. Those are configured where
you can remove the tank with in just under. Now
you can move the tank in hull you know, people
(18:07):
or supplies, and the same hold is true for this one.
It's going to be primarily designed for water dropping because
the National Guard already has C one thirties to transport
troops or people or firefighters or whatever the case is,
and and CalFire has other means to do that. So
this is primarily a fire attack apparatus.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Is the Coastguard just are they getting new ones and
they're giving us their old ones or what?
Speaker 6 (18:29):
It's a surplus situation through the US Defense Act. It
was pastor assigned in the lock. I believe it was
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It was.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
It's like a federal age, a federal aid package where
they took old military surplus and they're re vamping them
and retrofitting them for fire use and for other safety features.
And in this particular case, California really uh really uh
you know, the won the lottery on this one, getting
seven of these over the next couple of years and
(18:58):
then and they'll be stationed all throughout the state so
that they can be used where they think strategically those
kinds of equipment should be should be stationed.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
My assumption, we talk about the super Scoopers that come
in out of Canada every fire season, right, we watch
them as they come in, We see them in action
when we're when they're working, not when we're working, but
when they're working. These are going to be permanently part
of California. Specifical Firefires owns the arsenal. Yes, CalFire owns them.
(19:30):
It is part of it, which is also the world's
largest collection of firefighting aircraft, and CalFire has the world's
largest collection airfire, airfire, air firefighting airpower. Sorry, you haven't
hour this morning. You haven't been in front of us
for a week. I mean it's probably.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, and I'm a little bothered, be nervous.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Did you get your email today about the I'm in
the middle of it right now, are you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
It's like first thing when you open it says hello,
Steve Gregory, this is to let you know that California
anti harassment training has been added to your learning profile.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's the way it started my day.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It makes me want to harass everybody I see.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm just like, I'm glad you got it. Can I
give you an example?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Sure, you must come up with a strategy to improve
the quality of your work and help our team identify
new business opportunities. That's what Janet says to me. That's
an anti harassment No, so how would I classify Janet's comments?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Are they appropriate or inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Inappropriate? I don't want to be asked to do more stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And question two is it harassing sales behavior? Right?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I'm not in sales.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Is that not harassing behavior? It's not harassing behavior. Oh gosh,
I got those wrong. It's so hard to figure out this.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Well, it is harassed.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
It isn't harassment for the sake of the test, but
it is harassment here at this company to.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Ask somebody to actually work. Oh my god, the gall
if you want to test Steve. We were in the
Chicago iHeart studio was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
See if you have no idea, it was gorgeous, like
Michigan and Florida. Ceiling windows, free cup of noodles, free
cup of noodles.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
In their snack room. They just have.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Shelves full of stuff that you take and you open
the refrigerator and there's just there's pizza.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I didn't see that. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Okay, so I got some ice for a whole freezer.
They had pepperoni pizza, they had sausage pizza, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Know how much it costs. You're glad you enjoyed your
work assignment. We talked about we were work, that's why working.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
We were not working.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And then you know, so you dressed like you were
driving the jungle cruise thing.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
There was another show that was next to our show
for the week, and I was making fun of them
the whole time because they looked like they were actually
like seriously worked, like they were pretending.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't know what it was. I'm like, we do the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Same thing you do, but you make it seem like
it's so much more complicated, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What is this pre show meeting?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
We know what is this that's called commune vacation, But
what is this thing.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Where you're in the breaks and you're talking about what
you want to do next?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm like, it's just do we just have it easy?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Our other shows just not as as easy as well.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
What you have to ask is how do how do
they do in the numbers? I mean are they does
all the work pay off? Or maybe does all the
work pay off? Or does it just what is I
mean you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Got to where where are they from? Other? Other places?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Other places?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
What do you mean other places in our company or
just another company?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Well, in some cases in our company, Well syndicated show.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It is a syndicated show, so maybe the work does
lead to well syndicated show.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
That's a lot of that's a lot of responsible kind
of numbers. Well, if it's syndicated, I mean presumably is
more than.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Two stages, right, So do you think Gary and I
should do more work? Then, like we should answer carefully
make this into a job.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Isn't it time for break? What are you still doing? Money?
In there?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I was never told I was done? Are you Are
you done with me? Or do you want to talk
about something else?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Let's talk about something mouse? What else do you got?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I want to I want to know if it's true
what that guy said on the air about you guys.
Were you day drinking? We're in Chicago? What's the definition?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, what is the definition?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Does that because I'm two hours we're two hours ahead
of anything.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you don't have to get defensive. I just asked
the question.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
What is I think our first cocktail was at like
six pm for Chicago time, right, right, We're not like
sitting at the convention drinking.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Trust me.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It wasn't a thing where you're like I could those
who would be fun with drinks, A bunch of people
who love politics walking around in their Trust Women shirts.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Like I feel like that would have been bad for
them if we started drinking and hackling people as they're
walking by.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, it's not like when we went to the ball game,
or like, let's get drinks immediately because it's fun and
we're at a ball Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Let's scratch that question forget. I asked it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was like diet coke give me all the diet
coke so I can get through.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
This, Maden, Well, I just what I'm going to ask
you is I've never been to one of those, and
I don't have any desire to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Was it as chaotic and crazy as it looked?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, so we got there early enough that we were
there sort of in the quiet times, but by the
time we left at the end of our show is
when the thousands of delegates and hangers on were coming
into the arena for the nights you know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Here it's progress. It was two hours ahead, right, yeah. Yeah,
So I would.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Say out of all three conventions, I think Cleveland was
the one where it felt a little chaotic. And maybe
that's just because it was the first one we covered,
but also they had that pedestrian walkway and all the
security and all those threats and kind of more of
a of a vibe right out of the stadium with
restaurants and things like that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It felt I would say Cleveland felt more threatening than
any of the others. Noah, even though well because we
were for example, as we would leave the arena one day,
you kind of walk down this long alleyway and there's
some businesses and restaurants on both sides. We stopped in
one that it was the Cleveland Store or some sort
of you know, tourism catch and but the street out
(25:11):
in front was immediately filled with people who were protesting,
and that was the That was really the only time.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
You can get a glimpse of any of the protesters
on this one. Yes, yeah, but it was the first day.
And that's the thing about it that it was not
a it never turned into a threatening event, and that
the protests that were there in Chicago were clearly handled
by Chicago PD.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That whole storyline was such a media driven one. It
always has been, ever since the pro Palestinian protests have
popped up. It's been the media that's been driving this
thing and making it bigger.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Be I like the story that we'd get here that
said man caught with gun three miles from the really
miles away and.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
At the point there was a guy barricaded around theresant,
and Oscar was like, oh, there's a barricaded guy. I'm like, dude,
that's a Tuesday in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
The amount of security that was available or was visible,
I should say, throughout downtown Chicago was amazing, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It felt very safe.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Did you have any security, Did you have any personal.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He kept saying that we should have security.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He was, Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It was kind of nice because as from our vantage
point in the arena or from in the concourse, basically
a lot of people had to walk right past us
to get to their CNN interview or whatever they were
going to do. So there would be some politicians, some
high end politicians, a high end being famous, not necessarily
they're good.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You had people like Senator Ben Carden who come in,
who came in nobody knew who he was, and he
had one person with him.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And then you had Nancy Pelosi come in and she
had six security people on top of the eight or
ten staffers thing in with her. So that group, that
huddle would make its way through.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
On my flight to Dallas after the convention, I sat
with two guys who do private security, and they were
there to be body people for media types, a couple
of media people.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I saw that a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah, who was your biggest get? Because I couldn't listen
every day, but who was your biggest get? The biggest get?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We did have one of the presidential candidates. I liked
Dean Phillips. Dean Phillips, No, I would agree with that.
He was the surprise Cornell West doctor Cornell West was
probably he.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Got us high.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I heard right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
But here's the thing, viaa Gosa got us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
We literally, y I remember him with you years ago.
I remember his little thing with you. What little thing,
a little crush on you? Oh stop it.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, he literally ran into us as we were entering
the arena and he was leaving. Yeah, and you remember
you then turn around and walked back with us to
go do that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
In so he so he's yeah, he walked back into
the place like he was done for And so he
wanted a microphone, you know, he wanted to do an interview,
and he said he was all pissed off because whoever
had booked him before we talked to him, they only
the interview was two minutes long. So he got ready
at the hotel, went through the rigmarole of going through
security getting to the arena, and they only kept him
(28:16):
for two minutes. So he was happy to sit down
with us for as long as we wanted, and he
was he was actually really well focused and thought out.
I've never seen him like that before. I've never heard
he's had a lot of time practice. I figured out
it was when he was may or. He was caught
up on it, right, You covered him too, He was
all caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He was never hit on me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
He was caught up in the celebrity of it and
just never really focused. And now nobody's paying attention to
him really as he runs for governor, and so he
was hyper focused in that interview, and he sounded intelligent
for the first time.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
In my opinion, I think.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
He's had a lot of time to reflect, a lot
of time to reassemble. Yeah, you know who else is
going to run for governor?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Here?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Elandy coon Ilacus, Tony Thurman. Who's Tony THURMANU.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Lan that you're just making stuff up?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Look at you, California Politico is the lieutenant governor right now.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm just super.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
You don't remember when mayor of Vierorgosi used to flirt
with you?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
No, yes, he did, you know. Yeah, but you make
it sound like she was the only one and not
to well say that I can deserve it.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
But thank god that she never fell to that trap,
because she'd be the one that was caught climbing over
the fence out of the mayor's mansion late at night.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, norap, not a trap.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's a trap. It's a trap. Great to see you,
Welcome back to you kids.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You know what, though, there was one story that came
out of his affair with the woman from Univision, and
it was when he was caught in the lobby of
her building with Chinese food. And I remember thinking that
sounds really good, like that's nice that he brought her
Chinese food.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh, I would like someone to bring me Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think what that whole time was hilarious? Was it
wasn't that hilarious? Remember sis? Yes, she went.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
On the air to announce his divorce when he was
they were banging.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And then what a mess? I asked.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I did ask him off the air, I go, who
are you dating? And he goes, he goes, I am
dating somebody, and he goes, but I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And I said to him, why make one miserable in
the media?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Is it still an anchor or reporter? I did ask, Oh, yeah,
we have to figure out if he's at the.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Man's seventy one years old.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You know, he's seventy one. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Wow, I guess I didn't realize that. It seemed like
a lifetime ago we were covering him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, we were just kids. Yeah, you were. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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