August 28, 2024 • 36 mins
Swamp Watch. U.S. officials plan to kill hundreds of thousands of barred owls to save another species from extinction. ABC Reporter Peter Charalambous joins the show to talk about Trump’s inditement case. Parenting with Justin Worsham.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Officials from the US and China are agreeing for a
call to take place between President Biden and Shi Jinping.
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Call will be part of efforts to smooth the relationship
between the two countries. What does that call sound like,
my lord? Agreement comes from a meeting held today in
Beijing between the NSA and a top Chinese official. They
agreed Biden and she agreed in November to have increased
communications between the two sides.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
A young boy accidentally smashed a jar while on a
visit to a museum in Israel. This jar dated back
to the Bronze Age, sometime between twenty two hundred and
fifteen hundred BC. It had been on display at the
Hecked Museum in Haifa for thirty five years for a
four year old's grubby little hands took it down. It
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was on display right near the entrance to the museum
without any sort of glass surround because museum administrators believe
that there is a special charm in displaying archaeological finds
without obstructions. Maybe next time we display it without four
year olds. Also, yeah, they're killing those owls. Man which
owl number the owls?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The plan to kill all the owls so that the
other owls can thrive.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, now it's official.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Wildlife officials next year will scale up efforts to kill
invasive barred owls that are crowding out the native owls
from the West coast forests.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
They've approved a.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Thirty year plan to kill up to four hundred and
fifty two thousand barred owls in Oregon, California, and Washington State.
I say the killings are meant to relieve pressure on
declining populations of spotted owls, which are smaller need larger
territories to survive.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's off.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I I almost wanted John and Ken this story and
go out there with bullhorns and things and just yell
at these people for killing the barred owls.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Isn't there a way?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is there a barred owl relocation program you can engage
in or something You're just gonna go, how are you
gonna kill him?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Are you shoot them? Are you gonna poison them? Something
tells me this is not just about the barred owls.
It's about the owls.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You're just gonna wipe out all the four hundred and
fifty two thousand owls for the other owls.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Feels like something else is going on here. No, not really, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Maybe nothing else is going on, and that's why I'm
focused on the owls a lot of Maybe it's time
to go get an arts and crafts project from Michael's.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Uh, it's time for It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The government make it's like a reality TV shoot bado
always a pleasure to be in.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Where in Washington, DC?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Hey, Joe, a town hall too, clearly built on a
swamp in so many ways, still a swamp.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I have a bunch of malwarkey.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
W he said, drain the swamp. I said, Oh, that's
so I'll.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Keep you, you know the the sixty nine days until
election day, former President Trump Jade Vance holding events in
swing states this week. He's going to hold a town
hall in Wisconsin tomorrow, speak at a rally in Pennsylvania Friday.
Vance is set to speak at rallies in Pennsylvania and
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Wisconsin today. Kamala Harris and Tim Walls kick off their
bus tour in Georgia later this afternoon. They've got a
rally in Savannah tomorrow, and then tomorrow night is when
they are going to do their big first interview together.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, they're going to do it on CNN.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Dana Bash is going to interview them in Savannah, Georgia.
Some criticism of it includes the idea that, well, maybe they.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Shouldn't do it together. This is not a good idea.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Scott Jennings is a Republican conservative commentator on CNN who said,
this is not going to be a good look for
the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I think it's I.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Have great confidence in Dana and CNN to do this.
I think it's incredibly weak, weak sauce to show up
with your running mate, the fact that they don't have
enough confidence in her to let her sit herself the
actual top of the ticket and do a single interview.
In fact, I think the hand ringing and the gyrations
over this over the last month show a troubling lack
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of confidence in her political ability, which also makes you wonder,
as a voter, well, what kind of president would you
be if this kind of.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
A small time decision?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Can we do an interview or not what does that
look like for your decision making process?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
So on.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
So yes, I think Republicans are going to think it's
pretty weak to show up with effectively someone to take
up half the time.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And we've heard from people who say they do want
to see them together because they want to see how
the two of them interact if they're going to be
in the two most important jobs in the American government,
and and other people said that we'd rather see her
alone because it gives it's, if nothing else, it's a
high pressure situation.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
How does she do under a high pressure situation.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think they're going to tag team a lot of
these questions. I don't know how you can't, right, I mean,
he's not going to go there just to sit in silence.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Unless Dana Bash says this is a question specifically for
the for the vice president, that she should do that,
and then say something, OK, okay, Governor Walls, now this
question is specifically for you or something like that to delineate.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Is it gonna be taped or live? I think it's
gonna be taped. It better not be.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think we've I think we've established that these things
need to either be live or they need to be
aired in their entirety, y saw with with Biden and
George Stephanoppolis.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But they will say probably something like how do they
get around it edited for for time or what have you.
But again, do you think CNN would edit, would like
cut out something embarrassing with it if there was.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But that's why I think they would do it live,
just for the to make sure that there's no appearance
of impropriety, just to be on the up and up.
There were a couple of articles also today, one opinion
piece in Politico and then one also in the La
Times that Kamala Harris has surpassed Gavin Newsom and the
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governor is not happy. That was the La Times headline,
the one in Politico why Gavin Newsom lost star surrogate
status under Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
They've been friends.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You've heard Gaven Newsom refer to their friendship before they
even got into politics in San Francisco, and the you know,
we're talking twenty five thirty years later. They meet on
arguably the biggest political stage that they had both been on,
which is the Democratic National Convention last week, and Newsom
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had a brief cameo role where he delivered the state's
delegates to the vice president this ceremonial vote.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He did not look like he was happy, surrounded by
California's Democratic political class there with Maxine Waters and not
Diane Feinstein. Sorry Nancy Pelosi. I'm sure the ghost of
Diane Einstein was somewhere around there. But then that was it.
He had no other role at the convention.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I heard that he turned it down.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
So the Monday night thing, yes, that they offered him
the curtain raising position and he said, no, I've got
to put my kid in a new school.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, like Gavin Newsom does the parenting.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's the same thing about him saying he had to
take his kid's trick or treaty.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, using your children as a cover for your I mean,
I know if I had kids, i'd do the same
thing from time to time, Like if there's something I
want to get out.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Of, I'd be like, eh.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I even toyed with the idea of when I started
my next job, unfortunately, I mean not unfortunately, fortunately I
haven't started my next job, but that I would bring
a picture, a generic picture of some children and put
it on my desk so that I could use my
fictional children to get out of whatever I wanted to
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get out of or take off. Oh, I got to
get my kid to a doctor's appointment on Tuesday at
eleven am. I just had an idea that that would
be nice to have that. But of course I'm kidding,
and Gavin Newsom routinely uses his children as cover and
it's just another level of grossness.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The Politico article says Newsom's reduced role in the campaign
has fueled parlor intrigue in Sacramento. Political insiders questioned the
governor's status as a national surrogate and how his own
potential future presidential ambitions could be affected by Harris's rise. Remember,
right around the time of the debate between Trump and Biden,
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Gavin Newsom was going through Northeastern states stumping for Joe Biden.
Remember he was an active open surrogate for Joe Biden.
And once Kamala Harris gets to the top of the ticket,
he's nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Which is a crazy, crazy thing to think of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, you think in eight years, So let's say she wins,
see he benefits from her losing. He benefits from a
Trump presidency because then he can run against him in
four years. I listen, I don't think he would make
it out of the primary.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's unusual for a vice president to be elected. I mean,
I think Georgie H. W. Bush was the only one
we've seen in decades. But if she does win, I
don't think she has a two term I don't think
she's got two terms in her. You don't think that, Yeah,
you don't think she'd run again. Well, I'm not saying
she wouldn't run again. I'm just saying she wouldn't win.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But either way, he is still squeezed out. I think
you're right. I mean he would be squeezed out.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He squeezed out for eight years, no matter what you say.
If she wins, seems like it, and that makes him
sixty four in eight years, and in this new world
where we elect eighty year olds, he still got runway.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He's still got time to run. We got runway. One
of the big deals.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Also on the other side of the aisle is this
superseding indictment that was filed against Donald Trump. We'll talk
about that with ABC's Peter harr Alamos when we come back.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Forty bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We're going to be talking about this new report that
came out that suggests that parenting can be stressful.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The Surgeon General says that a huge percentage of parents
can't function with all the stress. This Surgeon General is
he's a little sensitive. This is like the third thing
he's come out with, and I'll find the other ones.
Just these general proclamations that we are largely in peril. Yeah,
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and I understand, I mean we are, we are perilous people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, it's one thing to acknowledge that parenting can be stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But for the surge in general to issue a proclamation
about it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's another thing to then go, oh, you are so right.
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It gives people, sometimes not everybody, but it gives people
permission perhaps to kind.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Of think they have a clinical problem. Yeah, yeah, and
that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The shooter in the assassination attempt of former President Trump
searched online for events of both Trump and Biden. Saw
the Pennsylvania campaign rally where you opened fire last month
as a target of opportunity this according to a senior
FBI official today, They say that this guy did extensive
research for an attack before the shooting, had looked at
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a number of events or targets. According to the Special
Agent in charge of the Pittsburg Field Office, this is
the latest in a series of briefings about that investigation.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, Jack Smith is out with a take two on
his indictment former President Trump for his efforts to overturn
the twenty twenty election. Made some changes to accommodate the
Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, joining us to talk
more about it. ABC's Peter Harralambo's the ABC News investigative
reporter out of New York, and Peter, some of these
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changes were big, obviously noticeable, some of them a little
bit more subtle.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, that's exactly right, and thanks for having me, Gary
and Chrenton. It seems as though Jack Smith had to
go back to the drawing board in a way after
the Supreme Court decision, trying to figure out a way
to frame this case about a lot of Trump's conduct
when he was president and make it so that it
would not be construed as official acts that would have
been protected by the Supreme Court's decision. So when we
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look at this new indictment, we see entire sections about
Trump's relation and involvement with the Department of Gusice completely removed.
It also adds kind of more subtle entries framing certain
conduct as things that Trump did as a private citizen
as a candidate for office, rather than as the president
of the United States at the time. They're hoping that
this new kind of repackaging of the allegations and it's
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really the same charges here will kind of allow them
to withstand the Supreme Court scrutiny and go forward with
this case. So it seems like it might take a while.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, definitely, it's going to be delayed, delayed, delayed. The
names left off of this indictment, that does not preclude
charges from being filed in the future against them.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That's right. It seems as though we're unlikely to see
new charges come up in the next few months. There's
a DOJ policy that generally recommends against adding new charges
or making substance major moves in a case within sixty
days of an election, but it's possible that months years
from now, if this case proceeds, we could see even
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more changes, So that's that's still a possibility Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I understand this is a deadline that the judge set
for both sides to come forward with suggestions what do
we expect to see between now and then.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So for now we're unlikely to see too much movement
with the case. By Friday, we should see that ruling,
that kind of plan from both parties where they lay
out kind of the next steps for this case. An
indictment is one thing. The other thing is kind of
showing how this case can effectively move forward and go
to trial. They have a hearing schedule tentatively for next Thursday,
in which both parties will come to court, and it's
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also possible that we see some kind of arraignment, even
though filing yesterday from Jack Smith's team suggested that Trump,
as the defendant here, would likely waive his right to
appear in person and an arraignment.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All right, Peter, great stuff, Thank you, yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Troving you guys, Peter, har Alambus again, ABC News investigative
reporter there in New York City. You mentioned that Vice
President Harris and Tim Walls are going to be headed
throughout rural Georgia over then couple of days as part
of their campaign. The importance of Georgia cannot necessarily can't
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be understated.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, a lot of people are talking about it, how
it's a high risk, high reward type of a trip.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, they said that returning to the trail after the
convention to visit a state that many Democrats said was
out of reach in recent months, which it was now.
Biden won Georgia in twenty twenty, but barely. I think
it was by two tenths of a percentage point. That
of course prompted that call from President Trump to Governor
Brian Kemp or it was the Secretary of State actually
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where he was asking for. You know, all he needs
is eleven thousand votes to be shifted about two months
until election day.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So they are now in a race to try to
make up for lost time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And the latest polls do show that Trump does still
have a lead there in Georgia, but that the gap
is closing since Biden left the race, and Harris's aes
aides have argued that it's one of those states that
has become more competitive with her at the top of
the ticket, and they said it makes sense to spend
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some time there, to put in the work there, even
though they need to make a serious play with competitive
blue wall states that they're looking for in the mid
Midwest as well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Would you like your jeopardy question today? Military bases for
a thousand? John McCain was born on a US military
base near a strategic waterway in this Latin American country.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Ksand them up, See all right, coming up? And how
old he was he when he was born?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, he was just born. Do you know how many
weeks his mother was pregnant for? Did you come early?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know. You don't know that?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean the part about how old he was when
he was born is a lot easier than knowing.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He was a pre Was he premie?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
You think?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
No, I don't know dotational period for John mckaye.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
You're the one that.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Brought it up.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You're like, do you know how old he was when
he was born? I don't know how many it was?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He was he was still growing in the stomach, not
what he was born. Why are we fighting over this?
So it's ridiculous conversation we've had in a while.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
Somebody needs a haircut? Look at you? Oh, I can
do it right now.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Really a couple of little clarification According to New York Times,
there are a couple different places that I saw. But
the New York Times says CNN is planning to tape
that uh interview with Vice President Kamala Harrison, Governor Tim
Walls and then air it tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At six o'clock our time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So don't know if they're going to erit in it's entirety,
or if they're going to edit it for length or time.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Or foibles, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But apparently CNN we'll be taping that joint appearance between
the Vice President and her running Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I feel the ghost of Ken, not that he is
no longer with us, but in this room, the work coast,
the work ghost. When he used to do this all
the time, he'd repeat odd words like John would say
a word like foibles and he'd be like, follybles, I
do it from time to time or the huh.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It lives within me.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
When you know you're on fire as a co host,
when you look who's here?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So true, justin whan it's basically I'm not paying attention
to what you just said.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Good point, Gary.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
She just looks up from the computer. But I agree,
what's going on with you.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Oh man so much.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I was going to ask you if you guys were
okay with me talking about this, but now I'm just
gonna okay, great, But I forgot. I was in there
chatting in the control room and then Keanu was like,
you can go in there now, and I was like, oh,
is it like time time?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
And they were just like yeah, I go okay.
Speaker 10 (19:20):
I just want to give a quick PSA to everybody
out there because I lost my dad a couple of
weeks ago, and my dad did not have a trust.
He had four accounts that were just in his name,
and so I've now it's become my passion because I'm
now on the other side of it. For probably about
eight years, my parents had this plan of like my
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mom would say, Honey, I don't know where any of
the bank accounts are, I don't know what bills we owe,
I don't know anything. If something happens to you, I'm screwed.
And my dad would say to her, don't worry, Justin
will take care of it and I'll be one.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That confidence he did.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
And I'll be honest, he was not wrong. And there
have been moments that I have felt immense.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Pride and.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
I want to say the word gratitude of just being
given the opportunity to say, you know, to take care
of them, because I firmly believe they did such an
amazing job taking care of me there. But there's also
been times where I'm angry at him because he kind
of dumped it on me. It was the last conversation
I had with him was he warned me about the
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kind of stuff and so I just, I just if
you own and investments, if you own a house, I
don't care. If you don't have kids, you need to
have a trust because then at least that gives you
the ability to donate the proceeds of the sale of
your home to a charity rather than it just going
to nothing, or your family having to hire an attorney
to go through probate, like it's just a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Especially, I was going to say, especially if there is
any sort of and I don't think there is with you,
but I mean, if there is any sort of conflict
you know of between the people, who would there was
who would inherit, whatever you have it, if it's spelled
out in the trust, there's no conflict, I mean basically hopefully,
But if there is no trust, it can be the
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end of relationships, of lifelong family relationship.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
It has ruined the relationship with me and my brother
as wow. Literally like twenty five hours after my dad
was gone, my brother called me yelling at me about
what I was going to do to take care of
our mother, And forty eight hours after that we had
a huge family fight where I called him a coward,
I called him a piece of ass.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If everyone's hurt right now, you're still in a fog,
and so it just you have to be gentle like
with yourself and everybody else. And I know you, and
I know that you're super financially oriented and this is
something for you to focus on, yes, but you know
you also have to like feel all the things and
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live in that fog.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
And you don't get a chance to.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
It's awful.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I beg my dad two years ago.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
I said, Dad, I need you to put everything in
a trust, because he told me for years he had one,
and then I found out four years ago he didn't.
So I it literally for did a conversation I would have.
He'd say, hey, sign, I go, hey, Dad, how are you?
Did you get a trust yet? And you go no,
but I'm working on it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Do you think he had one?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Or he just wanted to listen.
Speaker 10 (22:08):
I've said many many wonderful things about my father on
the show, and I continue to take.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Them all.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And all serious.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This.
Speaker 10 (22:17):
My father was an incredible father and an amazing grandfather.
I was very lucky to have him, and my kids
were very lucky to have him. But he was not
the best husband. He did not He was kind of
secretive about money. He told me some things, so I
knew he taught me how I manage our money, and
so I had an idea. But then when I got
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into it, there's so many things he does that don't
make any sense, to be honest with you, And so
you get caught in this weird thing of how do
you do the right thing by him and his memory
and what he would have wanted, but when it's not
technically the right thing. And I told him, I said, Dad,
I don't think my brother and sister are happy with
you right now, and I'm worried that if you go
something happens to you that then I become the You
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become the place that they're going to put their anger.
And we all know I'm already crying here now.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I can't take that.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I'm not strong about especially right now.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
You can't. I can't.
Speaker 10 (23:09):
I have not I can't really have moments to just
be in it because there's.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Always a job to do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think that your experience is probably really common. I
think a lot of people struggle with emotions about parents
that have gone that that listen, it's very rare to
be financially in order to have that house in order.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's it's not a gift everyone has.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You can be the best person in the world, but
horrible with money, and I think some of the best
people I know are horrible with money. But it is
a conflicting thing because you want to mourn, but at
the same time you're pissed off, and that screws you
up just as much.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
You get you get saddled with guilt.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Noah and the three of us are now in this
awful club, right. I mean that other people belong to it,
but but we are now in this club where we've
all lost our fathers. And even if the to your
point about having something in place, having a trust and
a plan. Even if you do have some of that
stuff in place. My parents did have a trust, but
there's still stuff that's that is is unresolved. You know
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that that will be and I'm eight months past my
dad dying, but there's still stuff that we've had to
work out between the sisters and I and how we're
going to finagle this or and as much preparation as
they had for accounts or vehicles or property or whatever,
there's still a guy that's living in their house. I mean,
there's the squatter that we've been trying to deal with.
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And it wasn't their fault necessarily. It was just like, well,
we didn't need an agreement with this guy because we
just thought he would go when when it was time
to go, which is clearly not the case. So even
as prepared as you you know you can be, there's
still the potential for there to be some loose an.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
He had a.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
Quadruple bypass surgery this last December and that opened his eyes.
He started the process, but he prioritized my grandmother's trust
to update hers. He built it with her and it
was already there. He just wanted to update it, so
he didn't do his and so, but he just it
came out of nowhere, and so I'm just trying to
tell as many people as I can. I brought it
up at a PTA meeting. I brought it up at
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my networking meeting this morning. I figured this is a
great outlet to let people know because it literally can
save you so much heartache in my opinion, I don't know,
I guess I mean, maybe you guys could speak more
to it. I haven't been on the other side of
it where it's even quasi organized. But my dad has
a rental property and their least agreements have been up
since twenty seventeen. He hasn't even touched it. He hasn't
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increased the rent. That's their sole income. Now my mom's
income has been cut in almost half. Like it's there's
and it's all. I have to take care of my
grandma's estate, my parents estate as well, and then my
mother in law's estate, and it's ale have just been nice.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
How about this. Every Wednesday when you come in, we
just do a state planning. I'll just talk about a state.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I should probably go to law school before we start talking.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I've got a free weekend before football.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I will go to the University of Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I will figure all of it out. If it gives
you two minutes of peace.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Good joby, you guyso much better.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I'll Phoenix. Well, we're glad you're back. I mean, I
know this is a yeah, I'll be gone.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I was gone for my family for a month.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Yeah, just taking care of and I had to stay
there for ten days after he passed, just to get
but my mom.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Has a trust.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Now does Jack have kids?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I don't know yet. I haven't seen his face.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'm glad you've brought her. No, I'm glad you're name though.
Speaker 10 (26:19):
I just took a guess to be honest, carry I
just I just figured this was not the time Mark
you was Shannon. She wouldn't take that Lowa blow right
right after my dad passed. Trust me, she might tell
you guys are the best and we'll continue.
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Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Also, I want to say that you guys were really
kind and I was not as kind. I think I
was wired differently as that I felt like I'm a friend,
and I didn't. I didn't want to bring up anything
or anything. But now that I know that, when people
tell you like, hey, i'm sorry, it means something like
it does. So thank you both, and I'm sorry that
I didn't return the favor. But thank you. You guys
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are good friends.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You're going to change your life now, are you. I
mean you're gonna have this weird thing where Ms.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Patricia says to do nothing for a year after someone
close to you dies because you're just don't make any
big decisions. Don't buy a car, don't don't do anything
big because it takes a year to like really come
back to normal.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I've heard that.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Yeah, that's why Dave Ramsey in his financial course, he
tells you that your life insurance should be ten times
your annual salary because then you want to be able
to take care of whoever is left behind for ten
years while you could still be there.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
So they can the.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
First year they like they just shouldn't even touch it,
like he says, don't do anything in the first year,
but after that then you can. You just you could
make bigger decisions, but you just off of it for
the first year, and then after that.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
How are the kids.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
My sons were, Okay, I don't know if I did
it right. I told them, I said, I'm sorry if
I did it wrong. But he passed away on the
first day of school, and it was like nine He
literally passed away at nine to fifteen am, no pm pm. Okay, So,
and like twenty minutes beforehand, my wife sent me this
beautiful video of my son doing his homework while practicing
his audition for the musical singing Surrey with the Fringe
(28:26):
on Top from Oklahoma, of course, and my other son
was talking to his friends and they just had great
first days of school, and I just i'd looked at
my mom and I said, I don't think this is
the right thing. And then the next day they were
having rough nights, but we didn't want to make it worse,
and so they didn't find out for a couple of
days afterwards.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I was about their age, or I was at
least about the age of the year older son. When
my grandmother died and it was one of those where
I was I did not want to have anything to
do with it, not because I wasn't close to her.
I mean, she literally had lived with us for a
couple of years, so I was close enough with her,
but I remember that that time of life where you
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that's not a thing. And I don't know if it
was just that my lack of emotions or whatever how
he treated in the family, but I didn't want to
have anything to do with it. I didn't want to
know when it happened. I didn't want to know any
details yourself. Probably my older.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Son wanted to know, like I think he even wanted
to know the nitty gritter. He literally his question was
how did he go? Like he wanted to hear the story.
So I told him the story. He was very peaceful
in his sleep like he wanted.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
He told me.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Since I was a kid, I hope I go and sleep,
and I just hope it's quick. And so that's exactly
what happened. But what I thought was interesting that normally
I would be defensive against and push back against, but
in this case I just let it go. Is that
when my kids came up to see me at my
parents' house after he had gone.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
They immediately wanted his things and it was pretty adorable.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
My son nephew's were that way with my dad.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
My older son went up and put on his clothes, yeah,
and wanted to.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wear his hats. They went through his closet like right away, I.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Played dress up like. He came down with dad's old
belt buckles he was wearing. My dad had these like
elephants in cowboy boots. He got Texas when we went
to go visit a family family we have there and
he just was putting it all and then he went
to sleep in the bed.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
That they have set us like this trundle bed for
the kids.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
And he left that in the middle of the night
and late and Grandpa's recliner and slept there all night,
just because I think he wanted to be close to him,
you know. And my my younger son and wanted his
wedding ring. He said, can I have some of Grandpa's
rings because my dad liked jewelry.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hem.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Yes, he wants to pawn him to get some Fortnite
bucks he wants, Yeah, for my gift card. Thanks thanks
for bringing me back to her shand and that's right.
I almost shame him those rings. He is not socially responsible,
because it would be really funny if he turned he
was found a way to ride his bike.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
To that your dad, you were miling down the entire
bike ride.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
To tell you this quick story, because I really think
my dad would get a kick out of this, is
that you have to after somebody passes away for whatever reason, ceremonies,
so you have to call all the people that they knew.
And I would call them from my phone because I
thought it was super creepy to call my dad, like
from my dad's phone.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Good point.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
And then they don't recognize your number, and so then
you're forced to leave voicemails or say, hey, I'm this
guy's son that you don't know. Call me unrelated, everything's fine,
but just call me. And so there's one guy. My
dad and mom had this thing where they would call
their friends for their birthdays and saying happy birthday.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
This guy that my dad used to work with.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
He didn't call him because he just wasn't feeling well,
and so the guy called him back because he didn't
get a call for his birthday and my dad wasn't
didn't have the energy to take the call. This was
in like mid July, So now I'm calling him a
few days after my dad had passed, and the poor
guy picks up the phone and says to his wife, see,
I told you he wasn't dead. Hey, Jesse, how the
hell are you? And I laughed a little bit.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I'll be this because my dad. One of my dad's
favorite moments.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Towards the end of his life, this is well before
he got sick, was that there was about a six
month period where medicare thought he was dead and he
got so much joy, so much pure joy he felt
from talking to people out a bureaucracy explaining that he
is not dead because they speaking to him right, and
they just could not compute that. He thought that was
so funny, And thankfully this guy was socially awkward enough
(32:06):
that it didn't It just grazed him like he didn't
even care.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
But that was really funny.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I don't know if you had the same experience chan him,
but that those that round of phone calls, that's that
was probably some of the toughest.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
Yeah, that was the toughest. Time you're calling people you
don't know. I called this guy that used to work
for my dad when he had a contracting business thirty
years ago. And this is a guy who I used
to hang out with, was kind of my friend even
though he was an adult. We played video games together.
He was a really nice guy. And what you the
But what I found nice about it, as hard as
it was, was that you start realizing the impact that
my dad had on just people that he worked with. Yeah,
(32:39):
Like literally people adored my father at a level that
I did not even know. Like it's it's almost kind
of sad that he didn't want a funeral service because
I don't think those people get a chance to come
and say what they wanted. So I just hear stories
like your dad was the greatest guy everybody across the board.
He taught me so much. He was just so much
fun to work with. Like a lot of the people
that he worked with just really my fired him and
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looked up to him, and he looked out for a
lot of younger guys.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
He started the fishing tournament.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
They do a Father's Day weekend fishing tournament at the
cabin community that he retired in, and now this year
they're going to name it after him because I brought
it back and they asked all of our family to
come and participate. My mom usually does a lot of
the cooking, so I negotiated the terms that Mom will
only be sitting in a camping chair, drinking a glass
of wine, being a consultant, or cooking if she wants to,
but she does not.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Have to cook all.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm trying to find this picture of I showed up
at a forty nine er game. My dad was a
fixture a candlestick and then Levi's or whatever. I show
up at a game after you'd passed, and one of
the guys that he tailgates with he was wearing a
white shirt with a picture of my dad.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
He had a t shirt made of my.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Dad sitting in his tailgating chair, you know, like a
joint in his hand or something, and it was just
it was a great moment. It's like when you hear
good things I would imagine about your kids, Like when
your kids go to friend's houses and they're like, your
kid is so well behaved, there's such a joy to
have Olivia or what have you, like, so proud. It's
the same thing with parents when you find out what
they meant to people because you don't get to.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
See You didn't see that, really see it, even if
you're at the game with him, you don't see it
from that lens of that person until weirdly enough, after
they're gone and they're telling you about that.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
The guy who used to work with my dad, he said,
I have to go. He had to.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
He couldn't even talk to me on the phone. He
got too emotional and he has I said, he goes,
I'm sorry, I can't talk right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was like the guy that showed up at your
dad's house and you had to give him three hugs.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh, the propane guy.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, great, like the propane multiple times because he adored
your pone.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Right, Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think it was, if I'm not mistaken, it was
like the morning after he passed away.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
No, it was. It was we were the weekend we
were doing the service, the funeral service.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
That's a weird thing too, where you kind of feel
like you're emotionally caring for people that are just friendly
with your parents.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, because I was like, I mean, he hadn't he
hadn't seen my dad for a few weeks because he'd
been a house bound. So I mean but he would
come and fill the propane, take and take off, and
they'd know each other for years and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But quick talk back for you, brother.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I feel for you going through a similar situation. But
I just remember, be slow to anger, quick to listen,
and just you know, let people.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Just be themselves.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
And if they're going to be evil and say horrible things,
just let them and still participate in it. Man, Sorry
for your loss.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Thanks, that's good advice. Yeah, I don't know that I
can listen to it. In regards to my brother right now,
I'll be honest, that's the hardest. That's going to be
the hardest. That's the hardest one right now because of
the way he came out. But I will try.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I probably we're glad you're here at anything, my father.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
But now it's all.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
About you, man, god seeing Thanks for seeing me so much.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're going to charge you for this. If you don't want.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Very much for today, we'll continue right after this. You've
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Officials from the US and China are agreeing for a
call to take place between President Biden and Shi Jinping.
(00:21):
Call will be part of efforts to smooth the relationship
between the two countries. What does that call sound like,
my lord? Agreement comes from a meeting held today in
Beijing between the NSA and a top Chinese official. They
agreed Biden and she agreed in November to have increased
communications between the two sides.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
A young boy accidentally smashed a jar while on a
visit to a museum in Israel. This jar dated back
to the Bronze Age, sometime between twenty two hundred and
fifteen hundred BC. It had been on display at the
Hecked Museum in Haifa for thirty five years for a
four year old's grubby little hands took it down. It
(01:03):
was on display right near the entrance to the museum
without any sort of glass surround because museum administrators believe
that there is a special charm in displaying archaeological finds
without obstructions. Maybe next time we display it without four
year olds. Also, yeah, they're killing those owls. Man which
owl number the owls?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The plan to kill all the owls so that the
other owls can thrive.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, now it's official.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Wildlife officials next year will scale up efforts to kill
invasive barred owls that are crowding out the native owls
from the West coast forests.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
They've approved a.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Thirty year plan to kill up to four hundred and
fifty two thousand barred owls in Oregon, California, and Washington State.
I say the killings are meant to relieve pressure on
declining populations of spotted owls, which are smaller need larger
territories to survive.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's off.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I I almost wanted John and Ken this story and
go out there with bullhorns and things and just yell
at these people for killing the barred owls.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Isn't there a way?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is there a barred owl relocation program you can engage
in or something You're just gonna go, how are you
gonna kill him?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Are you shoot them? Are you gonna poison them? Something
tells me this is not just about the barred owls.
It's about the owls.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You're just gonna wipe out all the four hundred and
fifty two thousand owls for the other owls.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Feels like something else is going on here. No, not really, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Maybe nothing else is going on, and that's why I'm
focused on the owls a lot of Maybe it's time
to go get an arts and crafts project from Michael's.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Uh, it's time for It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The government make it's like a reality TV shoot bado
always a pleasure to be in.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Where in Washington, DC?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Hey, Joe, a town hall too, clearly built on a
swamp in so many ways, still a swamp.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I have a bunch of malwarkey.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
W he said, drain the swamp. I said, Oh, that's
so I'll.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Keep you, you know the the sixty nine days until
election day, former President Trump Jade Vance holding events in
swing states this week. He's going to hold a town
hall in Wisconsin tomorrow, speak at a rally in Pennsylvania Friday.
Vance is set to speak at rallies in Pennsylvania and
(03:33):
Wisconsin today. Kamala Harris and Tim Walls kick off their
bus tour in Georgia later this afternoon. They've got a
rally in Savannah tomorrow, and then tomorrow night is when
they are going to do their big first interview together.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, they're going to do it on CNN.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Dana Bash is going to interview them in Savannah, Georgia.
Some criticism of it includes the idea that, well, maybe they.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Shouldn't do it together. This is not a good idea.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Scott Jennings is a Republican conservative commentator on CNN who said,
this is not going to be a good look for
the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I think it's I.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Have great confidence in Dana and CNN to do this.
I think it's incredibly weak, weak sauce to show up
with your running mate, the fact that they don't have
enough confidence in her to let her sit herself the
actual top of the ticket and do a single interview.
In fact, I think the hand ringing and the gyrations
over this over the last month show a troubling lack
(04:34):
of confidence in her political ability, which also makes you wonder,
as a voter, well, what kind of president would you
be if this kind of.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
A small time decision?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Can we do an interview or not what does that
look like for your decision making process?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
So on.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
So yes, I think Republicans are going to think it's
pretty weak to show up with effectively someone to take
up half the time.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And we've heard from people who say they do want
to see them together because they want to see how
the two of them interact if they're going to be
in the two most important jobs in the American government,
and and other people said that we'd rather see her
alone because it gives it's, if nothing else, it's a
high pressure situation.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
How does she do under a high pressure situation.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think they're going to tag team a lot of
these questions. I don't know how you can't, right, I mean,
he's not going to go there just to sit in silence.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Unless Dana Bash says this is a question specifically for
the for the vice president, that she should do that,
and then say something, OK, okay, Governor Walls, now this
question is specifically for you or something like that to delineate.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Is it gonna be taped or live? I think it's
gonna be taped. It better not be.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think we've I think we've established that these things
need to either be live or they need to be
aired in their entirety, y saw with with Biden and
George Stephanoppolis.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But they will say probably something like how do they
get around it edited for for time or what have you.
But again, do you think CNN would edit, would like
cut out something embarrassing with it if there was.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But that's why I think they would do it live,
just for the to make sure that there's no appearance
of impropriety, just to be on the up and up.
There were a couple of articles also today, one opinion
piece in Politico and then one also in the La
Times that Kamala Harris has surpassed Gavin Newsom and the
(06:30):
governor is not happy. That was the La Times headline,
the one in Politico why Gavin Newsom lost star surrogate
status under Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
They've been friends.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You've heard Gaven Newsom refer to their friendship before they
even got into politics in San Francisco, and the you know,
we're talking twenty five thirty years later. They meet on
arguably the biggest political stage that they had both been on,
which is the Democratic National Convention last week, and Newsom
(07:00):
had a brief cameo role where he delivered the state's
delegates to the vice president this ceremonial vote.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He did not look like he was happy, surrounded by
California's Democratic political class there with Maxine Waters and not
Diane Feinstein. Sorry Nancy Pelosi. I'm sure the ghost of
Diane Einstein was somewhere around there. But then that was it.
He had no other role at the convention.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I heard that he turned it down.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
So the Monday night thing, yes, that they offered him
the curtain raising position and he said, no, I've got
to put my kid in a new school.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, like Gavin Newsom does the parenting.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's the same thing about him saying he had to
take his kid's trick or treaty.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, using your children as a cover for your I mean,
I know if I had kids, i'd do the same
thing from time to time, Like if there's something I
want to get out.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Of, I'd be like, eh.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I even toyed with the idea of when I started
my next job, unfortunately, I mean not unfortunately, fortunately I
haven't started my next job, but that I would bring
a picture, a generic picture of some children and put
it on my desk so that I could use my
fictional children to get out of whatever I wanted to
(08:18):
get out of or take off. Oh, I got to
get my kid to a doctor's appointment on Tuesday at
eleven am. I just had an idea that that would
be nice to have that. But of course I'm kidding,
and Gavin Newsom routinely uses his children as cover and
it's just another level of grossness.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The Politico article says Newsom's reduced role in the campaign
has fueled parlor intrigue in Sacramento. Political insiders questioned the
governor's status as a national surrogate and how his own
potential future presidential ambitions could be affected by Harris's rise. Remember,
right around the time of the debate between Trump and Biden,
(08:58):
Gavin Newsom was going through Northeastern states stumping for Joe Biden.
Remember he was an active open surrogate for Joe Biden.
And once Kamala Harris gets to the top of the ticket,
he's nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Which is a crazy, crazy thing to think of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, you think in eight years, So let's say she wins,
see he benefits from her losing. He benefits from a
Trump presidency because then he can run against him in
four years. I listen, I don't think he would make
it out of the primary.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's unusual for a vice president to be elected. I mean,
I think Georgie H. W. Bush was the only one
we've seen in decades. But if she does win, I
don't think she has a two term I don't think
she's got two terms in her. You don't think that, Yeah,
you don't think she'd run again. Well, I'm not saying
she wouldn't run again. I'm just saying she wouldn't win.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I see.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But either way, he is still squeezed out. I think
you're right. I mean he would be squeezed out.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He squeezed out for eight years, no matter what you say.
If she wins, seems like it, and that makes him
sixty four in eight years, and in this new world
where we elect eighty year olds, he still got runway.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He's still got time to run. We got runway. One
of the big deals.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Also on the other side of the aisle is this
superseding indictment that was filed against Donald Trump. We'll talk
about that with ABC's Peter harr Alamos when we come back.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (10:31):
Forty bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We're going to be talking about this new report that
came out that suggests that parenting can be stressful.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
The Surgeon General says that a huge percentage of parents
can't function with all the stress. This Surgeon General is
he's a little sensitive. This is like the third thing
he's come out with, and I'll find the other ones.
Just these general proclamations that we are largely in peril. Yeah,
(11:02):
and I understand, I mean we are, we are perilous people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, it's one thing to acknowledge that parenting can be stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But for the surge in general to issue a proclamation
about it.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's another thing to then go, oh, you are so right.
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It gives people, sometimes not everybody, but it gives people
permission perhaps to kind.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Of think they have a clinical problem. Yeah, yeah, and
that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The shooter in the assassination attempt of former President Trump
searched online for events of both Trump and Biden. Saw
the Pennsylvania campaign rally where you opened fire last month
as a target of opportunity this according to a senior
FBI official today, They say that this guy did extensive
research for an attack before the shooting, had looked at
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a number of events or targets. According to the Special
Agent in charge of the Pittsburg Field Office, this is
the latest in a series of briefings about that investigation.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, Jack Smith is out with a take two on
his indictment former President Trump for his efforts to overturn
the twenty twenty election. Made some changes to accommodate the
Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, joining us to talk
more about it. ABC's Peter Harralambo's the ABC News investigative
reporter out of New York, and Peter, some of these
(12:27):
changes were big, obviously noticeable, some of them a little
bit more subtle.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, that's exactly right, and thanks for having me, Gary
and Chrenton. It seems as though Jack Smith had to
go back to the drawing board in a way after
the Supreme Court decision, trying to figure out a way
to frame this case about a lot of Trump's conduct
when he was president and make it so that it
would not be construed as official acts that would have
been protected by the Supreme Court's decision. So when we
(12:53):
look at this new indictment, we see entire sections about
Trump's relation and involvement with the Department of Gusice completely removed.
It also adds kind of more subtle entries framing certain
conduct as things that Trump did as a private citizen
as a candidate for office, rather than as the president
of the United States at the time. They're hoping that
this new kind of repackaging of the allegations and it's
(13:16):
really the same charges here will kind of allow them
to withstand the Supreme Court scrutiny and go forward with
this case. So it seems like it might take a while.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, definitely, it's going to be delayed, delayed, delayed. The
names left off of this indictment, that does not preclude
charges from being filed in the future against them.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That's right. It seems as though we're unlikely to see
new charges come up in the next few months. There's
a DOJ policy that generally recommends against adding new charges
or making substance major moves in a case within sixty
days of an election, but it's possible that months years
from now, if this case proceeds, we could see even
(13:57):
more changes, So that's that's still a possibility Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I understand this is a deadline that the judge set
for both sides to come forward with suggestions what do
we expect to see between now and then.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So for now we're unlikely to see too much movement
with the case. By Friday, we should see that ruling,
that kind of plan from both parties where they lay
out kind of the next steps for this case. An
indictment is one thing. The other thing is kind of
showing how this case can effectively move forward and go
to trial. They have a hearing schedule tentatively for next Thursday,
in which both parties will come to court, and it's
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also possible that we see some kind of arraignment, even
though filing yesterday from Jack Smith's team suggested that Trump,
as the defendant here, would likely waive his right to
appear in person and an arraignment.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All right, Peter, great stuff, Thank you, yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Troving you guys, Peter, har Alambus again, ABC News investigative
reporter there in New York City. You mentioned that Vice
President Harris and Tim Walls are going to be headed
throughout rural Georgia over then couple of days as part
of their campaign. The importance of Georgia cannot necessarily can't
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be understated.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, a lot of people are talking about it, how
it's a high risk, high reward type of a trip.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, they said that returning to the trail after the
convention to visit a state that many Democrats said was
out of reach in recent months, which it was now.
Biden won Georgia in twenty twenty, but barely. I think
it was by two tenths of a percentage point. That
of course prompted that call from President Trump to Governor
Brian Kemp or it was the Secretary of State actually
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where he was asking for. You know, all he needs
is eleven thousand votes to be shifted about two months
until election day.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So they are now in a race to try to
make up for lost time.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And the latest polls do show that Trump does still
have a lead there in Georgia, but that the gap
is closing since Biden left the race, and Harris's aes
aides have argued that it's one of those states that
has become more competitive with her at the top of
the ticket, and they said it makes sense to spend
(16:10):
some time there, to put in the work there, even
though they need to make a serious play with competitive
blue wall states that they're looking for in the mid
Midwest as well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Would you like your jeopardy question today? Military bases for
a thousand? John McCain was born on a US military
base near a strategic waterway in this Latin American country.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Ksand them up, See all right, coming up? And how
old he was he when he was born?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, he was just born. Do you know how many
weeks his mother was pregnant for? Did you come early?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know. You don't know that?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean the part about how old he was when
he was born is a lot easier than knowing.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He was a pre Was he premie?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
You think?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
No, I don't know dotational period for John mckaye.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
You're the one that.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Brought it up.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You're like, do you know how old he was when
he was born? I don't know how many it was?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He was he was still growing in the stomach, not
what he was born. Why are we fighting over this?
So it's ridiculous conversation we've had in a while.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Somebody needs a haircut? Look at you? Oh, I can
do it right now.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Really a couple of little clarification According to New York Times,
there are a couple different places that I saw. But
the New York Times says CNN is planning to tape
that uh interview with Vice President Kamala Harrison, Governor Tim
Walls and then air it tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At six o'clock our time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So don't know if they're going to erit in it's entirety,
or if they're going to edit it for length or time.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Or foibles, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But apparently CNN we'll be taping that joint appearance between
the Vice President and her running Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I feel the ghost of Ken, not that he is
no longer with us, but in this room, the work coast,
the work ghost. When he used to do this all
the time, he'd repeat odd words like John would say
a word like foibles and he'd be like, follybles, I
do it from time to time or the huh.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It lives within me.
Speaker 10 (18:38):
When you know you're on fire as a co host,
when you look who's here?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So true, justin whan it's basically I'm not paying attention
to what you just said.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Good point, Gary.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
She just looks up from the computer. But I agree,
what's going on with you.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Oh man so much.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I was going to ask you if you guys were
okay with me talking about this, but now I'm just
gonna okay, great, But I forgot. I was in there
chatting in the control room and then Keanu was like,
you can go in there now, and I was like, oh,
is it like time time?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
And they were just like yeah, I go okay.
Speaker 10 (19:20):
I just want to give a quick PSA to everybody
out there because I lost my dad a couple of
weeks ago, and my dad did not have a trust.
He had four accounts that were just in his name,
and so I've now it's become my passion because I'm
now on the other side of it. For probably about
eight years, my parents had this plan of like my
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mom would say, Honey, I don't know where any of
the bank accounts are, I don't know what bills we owe,
I don't know anything. If something happens to you, I'm screwed.
And my dad would say to her, don't worry, Justin
will take care of it and I'll be one.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That confidence he did.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
And I'll be honest, he was not wrong. And there
have been moments that I have felt immense.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Pride and.
Speaker 10 (20:04):
I want to say the word gratitude of just being
given the opportunity to say, you know, to take care
of them, because I firmly believe they did such an
amazing job taking care of me there. But there's also
been times where I'm angry at him because he kind
of dumped it on me. It was the last conversation
I had with him was he warned me about the
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kind of stuff and so I just, I just if
you own and investments, if you own a house, I
don't care. If you don't have kids, you need to
have a trust because then at least that gives you
the ability to donate the proceeds of the sale of
your home to a charity rather than it just going
to nothing, or your family having to hire an attorney
to go through probate, like it's just a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Especially, I was going to say, especially if there is
any sort of and I don't think there is with you,
but I mean, if there is any sort of conflict
you know of between the people, who would there was
who would inherit, whatever you have it, if it's spelled
out in the trust, there's no conflict, I mean basically hopefully,
But if there is no trust, it can be the
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end of relationships, of lifelong family relationship.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
It has ruined the relationship with me and my brother
as wow. Literally like twenty five hours after my dad
was gone, my brother called me yelling at me about
what I was going to do to take care of
our mother, And forty eight hours after that we had
a huge family fight where I called him a coward,
I called him a piece of ass.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If everyone's hurt right now, you're still in a fog,
and so it just you have to be gentle like
with yourself and everybody else. And I know you, and
I know that you're super financially oriented and this is
something for you to focus on, yes, but you know
you also have to like feel all the things and
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live in that fog.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
And you don't get a chance to.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
It's awful.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I beg my dad two years ago.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
I said, Dad, I need you to put everything in
a trust, because he told me for years he had one,
and then I found out four years ago he didn't.
So I it literally for did a conversation I would have.
He'd say, hey, sign, I go, hey, Dad, how are you?
Did you get a trust yet? And you go no,
but I'm working on it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Do you think he had one?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Or he just wanted to listen.
Speaker 10 (22:08):
I've said many many wonderful things about my father on
the show, and I continue to take.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Them all.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And all serious.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This.
Speaker 10 (22:17):
My father was an incredible father and an amazing grandfather.
I was very lucky to have him, and my kids
were very lucky to have him. But he was not
the best husband. He did not He was kind of
secretive about money. He told me some things, so I
knew he taught me how I manage our money, and
so I had an idea. But then when I got
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into it, there's so many things he does that don't
make any sense, to be honest with you, And so
you get caught in this weird thing of how do
you do the right thing by him and his memory
and what he would have wanted, but when it's not
technically the right thing. And I told him, I said, Dad,
I don't think my brother and sister are happy with
you right now, and I'm worried that if you go
something happens to you that then I become the You
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become the place that they're going to put their anger.
And we all know I'm already crying here now.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I can't take that.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I'm not strong about especially right now.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
You can't. I can't.
Speaker 10 (23:09):
I have not I can't really have moments to just
be in it because there's.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Always a job to do.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think that your experience is probably really common. I
think a lot of people struggle with emotions about parents
that have gone that that listen, it's very rare to
be financially in order to have that house in order.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's it's not a gift everyone has.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You can be the best person in the world, but
horrible with money, and I think some of the best
people I know are horrible with money. But it is
a conflicting thing because you want to mourn, but at
the same time you're pissed off, and that screws you
up just as much.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
You get you get saddled with guilt.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Noah and the three of us are now in this
awful club, right. I mean that other people belong to it,
but but we are now in this club where we've
all lost our fathers. And even if the to your
point about having something in place, having a trust and
a plan. Even if you do have some of that
stuff in place. My parents did have a trust, but
there's still stuff that's that is is unresolved. You know
(24:11):
that that will be and I'm eight months past my
dad dying, but there's still stuff that we've had to
work out between the sisters and I and how we're
going to finagle this or and as much preparation as
they had for accounts or vehicles or property or whatever,
there's still a guy that's living in their house. I mean,
there's the squatter that we've been trying to deal with.
(24:32):
And it wasn't their fault necessarily. It was just like, well,
we didn't need an agreement with this guy because we
just thought he would go when when it was time
to go, which is clearly not the case. So even
as prepared as you you know you can be, there's
still the potential for there to be some loose an.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
He had a.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
Quadruple bypass surgery this last December and that opened his eyes.
He started the process, but he prioritized my grandmother's trust
to update hers. He built it with her and it
was already there. He just wanted to update it, so
he didn't do his and so, but he just it
came out of nowhere, and so I'm just trying to
tell as many people as I can. I brought it
up at a PTA meeting. I brought it up at
(25:08):
my networking meeting this morning. I figured this is a
great outlet to let people know because it literally can
save you so much heartache in my opinion, I don't know,
I guess I mean, maybe you guys could speak more
to it. I haven't been on the other side of
it where it's even quasi organized. But my dad has
a rental property and their least agreements have been up
since twenty seventeen. He hasn't even touched it. He hasn't
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increased the rent. That's their sole income. Now my mom's
income has been cut in almost half. Like it's there's
and it's all. I have to take care of my
grandma's estate, my parents estate as well, and then my
mother in law's estate, and it's ale have just been nice.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
How about this. Every Wednesday when you come in, we
just do a state planning. I'll just talk about a state.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
I should probably go to law school before we start talking.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I've got a free weekend before football.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I will go to the University of Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I will figure all of it out. If it gives
you two minutes of peace.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Good joby, you guyso much better.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I'll Phoenix. Well, we're glad you're back. I mean, I
know this is a yeah, I'll be gone.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I was gone for my family for a month.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
Yeah, just taking care of and I had to stay
there for ten days after he passed, just to get
but my mom.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Has a trust.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Now does Jack have kids?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I don't know yet. I haven't seen his face.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'm glad you've brought her. No, I'm glad you're name though.
Speaker 10 (26:19):
I just took a guess to be honest, carry I
just I just figured this was not the time Mark
you was Shannon. She wouldn't take that Lowa blow right
right after my dad passed. Trust me, she might tell
you guys are the best and we'll continue.
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Doing it for you, honey.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
He keeps her spicy.
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Speaker 2 (26:51):
Joined us again, back back at it after dealing with life.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Also, I want to say that you guys were really
kind and I was not as kind. I think I
was wired differently as that I felt like I'm a friend,
and I didn't. I didn't want to bring up anything
or anything. But now that I know that, when people
tell you like, hey, i'm sorry, it means something like
it does. So thank you both, and I'm sorry that
I didn't return the favor. But thank you. You guys
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are good friends.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You're going to change your life now, are you. I
mean you're gonna have this weird thing where Ms.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Patricia says to do nothing for a year after someone
close to you dies because you're just don't make any
big decisions. Don't buy a car, don't don't do anything
big because it takes a year to like really come
back to normal.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I've heard that.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Yeah, that's why Dave Ramsey in his financial course, he
tells you that your life insurance should be ten times
your annual salary because then you want to be able
to take care of whoever is left behind for ten
years while you could still be there.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
So they can the.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
First year they like they just shouldn't even touch it,
like he says, don't do anything in the first year,
but after that then you can. You just you could
make bigger decisions, but you just off of it for
the first year, and then after that.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
How are the kids.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
My sons were, Okay, I don't know if I did
it right. I told them, I said, I'm sorry if
I did it wrong. But he passed away on the
first day of school, and it was like nine He
literally passed away at nine to fifteen am, no pm pm. Okay, So,
and like twenty minutes beforehand, my wife sent me this
beautiful video of my son doing his homework while practicing
his audition for the musical singing Surrey with the Fringe
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on Top from Oklahoma, of course, and my other son
was talking to his friends and they just had great
first days of school, and I just i'd looked at
my mom and I said, I don't think this is
the right thing. And then the next day they were
having rough nights, but we didn't want to make it worse,
and so they didn't find out for a couple of
days afterwards.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I was about their age, or I was at
least about the age of the year older son. When
my grandmother died and it was one of those where
I was I did not want to have anything to
do with it, not because I wasn't close to her.
I mean, she literally had lived with us for a
couple of years, so I was close enough with her,
but I remember that that time of life where you
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that's not a thing. And I don't know if it
was just that my lack of emotions or whatever how
he treated in the family, but I didn't want to
have anything to do with it. I didn't want to
know when it happened. I didn't want to know any
details yourself. Probably my older.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
Son wanted to know, like I think he even wanted
to know the nitty gritter. He literally his question was
how did he go? Like he wanted to hear the story.
So I told him the story. He was very peaceful
in his sleep like he wanted.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
He told me.
Speaker 10 (29:27):
Since I was a kid, I hope I go and sleep,
and I just hope it's quick. And so that's exactly
what happened. But what I thought was interesting that normally
I would be defensive against and push back against, but
in this case I just let it go. Is that
when my kids came up to see me at my
parents' house after he had gone.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
They immediately wanted his things and it was pretty adorable.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
My son nephew's were that way with my dad.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
My older son went up and put on his clothes, yeah,
and wanted to.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Wear his hats. They went through his closet like right away, I.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Played dress up like. He came down with dad's old
belt buckles he was wearing. My dad had these like
elephants in cowboy boots. He got Texas when we went
to go visit a family family we have there and
he just was putting it all and then he went
to sleep in the bed.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
That they have set us like this trundle bed for
the kids.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
And he left that in the middle of the night
and late and Grandpa's recliner and slept there all night,
just because I think he wanted to be close to him,
you know. And my my younger son and wanted his
wedding ring. He said, can I have some of Grandpa's
rings because my dad liked jewelry.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hem.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Yes, he wants to pawn him to get some Fortnite
bucks he wants, Yeah, for my gift card. Thanks thanks
for bringing me back to her shand and that's right.
I almost shame him those rings. He is not socially responsible,
because it would be really funny if he turned he
was found a way to ride his bike.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
To that your dad, you were miling down the entire
bike ride.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
To tell you this quick story, because I really think
my dad would get a kick out of this, is
that you have to after somebody passes away for whatever reason, ceremonies,
so you have to call all the people that they knew.
And I would call them from my phone because I
thought it was super creepy to call my dad, like
from my dad's phone.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Good point.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
And then they don't recognize your number, and so then
you're forced to leave voicemails or say, hey, I'm this
guy's son that you don't know. Call me unrelated, everything's fine,
but just call me. And so there's one guy. My
dad and mom had this thing where they would call
their friends for their birthdays and saying happy birthday.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
This guy that my dad used to work with.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
He didn't call him because he just wasn't feeling well,
and so the guy called him back because he didn't
get a call for his birthday and my dad wasn't
didn't have the energy to take the call. This was
in like mid July, So now I'm calling him a
few days after my dad had passed, and the poor
guy picks up the phone and says to his wife, see,
I told you he wasn't dead. Hey, Jesse, how the
hell are you? And I laughed a little bit.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I'll be this because my dad. One of my dad's
favorite moments.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Towards the end of his life, this is well before
he got sick, was that there was about a six
month period where medicare thought he was dead and he
got so much joy, so much pure joy he felt
from talking to people out a bureaucracy explaining that he
is not dead because they speaking to him right, and
they just could not compute that. He thought that was
so funny, And thankfully this guy was socially awkward enough
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that it didn't It just grazed him like he didn't
even care.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
But that was really funny.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I don't know if you had the same experience chan him,
but that those that round of phone calls, that's that
was probably some of the toughest.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
Yeah, that was the toughest. Time you're calling people you
don't know. I called this guy that used to work
for my dad when he had a contracting business thirty
years ago. And this is a guy who I used
to hang out with, was kind of my friend even
though he was an adult. We played video games together.
He was a really nice guy. And what you the
But what I found nice about it, as hard as
it was, was that you start realizing the impact that
my dad had on just people that he worked with. Yeah,
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Like literally people adored my father at a level that
I did not even know. Like it's it's almost kind
of sad that he didn't want a funeral service because
I don't think those people get a chance to come
and say what they wanted. So I just hear stories
like your dad was the greatest guy everybody across the board.
He taught me so much. He was just so much
fun to work with. Like a lot of the people
that he worked with just really my fired him and
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looked up to him, and he looked out for a
lot of younger guys.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
He started the fishing tournament.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
They do a Father's Day weekend fishing tournament at the
cabin community that he retired in, and now this year
they're going to name it after him because I brought
it back and they asked all of our family to
come and participate. My mom usually does a lot of
the cooking, so I negotiated the terms that Mom will
only be sitting in a camping chair, drinking a glass
of wine, being a consultant, or cooking if she wants to,
but she does not.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Have to cook all.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm trying to find this picture of I showed up
at a forty nine er game. My dad was a
fixture a candlestick and then Levi's or whatever. I show
up at a game after you'd passed, and one of
the guys that he tailgates with he was wearing a
white shirt with a picture of my dad.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
He had a t shirt made of my.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Dad sitting in his tailgating chair, you know, like a
joint in his hand or something, and it was just
it was a great moment. It's like when you hear
good things I would imagine about your kids, Like when
your kids go to friend's houses and they're like, your
kid is so well behaved, there's such a joy to
have Olivia or what have you, like, so proud. It's
the same thing with parents when you find out what
they meant to people because you don't get to.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
See You didn't see that, really see it, even if
you're at the game with him, you don't see it
from that lens of that person until weirdly enough, after
they're gone and they're telling you about that.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
The guy who used to work with my dad, he said,
I have to go. He had to.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
He couldn't even talk to me on the phone. He
got too emotional and he has I said, he goes,
I'm sorry, I can't talk right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That was like the guy that showed up at your
dad's house and you had to give him three hugs.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh, the propane guy.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, great, like the propane multiple times because he adored
your pone.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Right, Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think it was, if I'm not mistaken, it was
like the morning after he passed away.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
No, it was. It was we were the weekend we
were doing the service, the funeral service.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
That's a weird thing too, where you kind of feel
like you're emotionally caring for people that are just friendly
with your parents.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, because I was like, I mean, he hadn't he
hadn't seen my dad for a few weeks because he'd
been a house bound. So I mean but he would
come and fill the propane, take and take off, and
they'd know each other for years and stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But quick talk back for you, brother.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
I feel for you going through a similar situation. But
I just remember, be slow to anger, quick to listen,
and just you know, let people.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Just be themselves.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
And if they're going to be evil and say horrible things,
just let them and still participate in it. Man, Sorry
for your loss.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Thanks, that's good advice. Yeah, I don't know that I
can listen to it. In regards to my brother right now,
I'll be honest, that's the hardest. That's going to be
the hardest. That's the hardest one right now because of
the way he came out. But I will try.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I probably we're glad you're here at anything, my father.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
But now it's all.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
About you, man, god seeing Thanks for seeing me so much.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're going to charge you for this. If you don't want.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Very much for today, we'll continue right after this. You've
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