September 6, 2024 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Let's do some swamp watch. Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
The government doesn't work. Come man, gonna make us like
a reality TV show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Was a bad doo, always a pleasure to be anywhere
from Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Hey Joe, a town all too clearly built on a
swamp and in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Still a swamp. I have a watch of Maworkee, he said,
Drained the swamp.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I said, Oh, that's so, I'll keep happen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know the thing, it's kind of weird twist this
story on how things go the Trump.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Are we looking at the same story it's from right here.
No not, I'm looking at the other one.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, So Trump concedes twenty twenty loss could if he
conceding that twenty twenty loss could mean legal trouble, so
says former Deputy.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ag So.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Former President Donald Trump recently changed in how he characterizes
the twenty twenty election results. Maybe good politics, they say,
because if he can see you know that hole.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was robbed. I was robbed.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I was robbed doesn't always play well, but it's a
bad legal strategy. According one of the former Justice Department officials,
this is, you know, there is some point where and
I think I mentioned this yesterday, the Lincoln quote that
if you don't lie, you never have to remember anything.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And if you're throwing things out that aren't always factual,
or you go down a path where you're beating a
particular drum, you're going to be held accountable for that
unless you make an honest reversal and say, new information,
new evidence has come to my attention, and this is
where it's at.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
But one of his most recent quotes, Trump I'm referred into, uh,
not long ago August thirtieth. He says, quote, we got
the most votes of anybody of any sitting president in history,
and he beat us by a whisker. He's made similar
comments and other you know, appearances in the past few days,
in the past several years.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And Tom Dupree, who was a deputy assistant Attorney General in.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
The George W.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Bush administration, he said, quote, it was probably politically smart
for Trump to admit he lost the election, but legally
that sure could have consequences.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well because some of the statements, I mean, being sued
now by people have said, you gosh, and I'm trying
to think of the former mayor of New York, oh oh,
Juliani sounds like yeah, and that he was sued by
(02:56):
He stepped to it as one of the todies of
and said, you know, this is what happened, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He would he was sued. Were they folks from.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Georgia that said that they besmirched them and all of
that and he got nailed for that. So maybe that's
what they're talking about, is that in this particular case,
if now you're saying, yes, we lost, then there is no.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, there is no mess.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You're just shown your cards.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that's gonna come back to bite
him in the ass.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Okay, Well, I would assume that the Trump team is
categorizing this ruling by Judge One Rashaan today as a win.
And that is the sentencing in the hush money case,
the thirty four counts of false buying business records that
the president was found guilty of the former president was
found guilty of back in May. That sentenceing has now
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officially been delayed to November. The twenty sixth, so post
the present ssidential election, it was supposed to happen in
the coming days, expected by September the sixteenth, while that
delay officially approved today until November twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's got to help, you know, Yeah, just that it's
not a less heavy lifting prior to the election, and
obviously less negativity prior to the election and moving in
a better direction that is probably well welcomed. All right,
Neil Savedro marlatez in for Gary and Shannon more Swamp
(04:31):
watch to come to go nowhere. Also, Wayne Resnick is
going to join us at the bottom of the hour
to talk about Hunter Biden. He was twenty eight years
as a federal probation officer and.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He knows his stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, and just an.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Excellent breakdown of it on the Morning show today, and
we invited him to come in and he said yeah,
So he'll be joining us a little bit later at
the bottom of the hour as well.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Ah oh, mart I have to do the heimlig Oh my.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
God, I was laughing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You were You're you're so just the facts.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I love it, And you're like, what.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do I respond to? What is the best way?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What the hell happened. Oh my gosh. The old joke,
hey were you hit by a car? No?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You got to post that photo.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh no, the old joke was, hey were you hit
by a truck? No, it was a car. I'll post
one of the spiked hair ones. That's amazing because Steve
Gregory we were talking about high school or whatever, and
he sent a picture of me from like ninth grade
a yearbook. He knows a police officer apparently that I
(05:42):
went to school with. He didn't give me the name
of the fellow, but it would have been. I was
only there the first two years. So he sent it
the yearbook picture, and I said, it's funny because my
hair is down, and I'm like, I wonder if my
either that or I could have been wearing a hat
or something and took it off.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They wouldn't let me wear it. But my hair was
down and not spiked.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Did you did you blow dry your hair back then?
I mean, like style it? No, that just as natural.
Why does that happen? Do you know how much we
have to do for our hair, like in terms of
and that's just natural hair.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
No, that was just natural.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, you'd have to hang upside.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Sure, sure, sure, but that hair, Okay, you don't throw
that hair was just natural.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's amazing. You got to throw that up on the socials.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh my god, it's funny. Okay, your face.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Hey, I know people around here.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I've never It's like, for context, I've never seen you
except for now.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I've never seen any older pictures.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
There's some in the hallways here at KFI, but you
look exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
There's there's no no I had hair when I came
to KFI, but I took it off not long after.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
But the pictures that I've seen, all the stuff you see,
so I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So it's shocking.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It's literally it's like the heat when you go outside
after being into ac it takes your brother.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Your response was just like what I thought you were
going to cuss? And what that have happened?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Okay, speaking of cussing, that brings us to our continued
conversation in swamp watch swamp watch?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All right, where were we? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, let's let's we're we're what four days move down
to four days until the debate.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yes, so it's coming up on the tenth. Uh, and
you know things are heating up. They went ahead and
agreed to the everybody agreed with everything they're going to
do the debate. It's not just uh Trump and Harris though.
When you break this stuff down, is to have a
lot at stake. ABC News has as well. I mean,
(07:45):
it's a big deal in every it's hard to do
these things without getting nailed. It's hard to moderate without
getting nailed, and to be as unbiased as possible to
try and keep control.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's almost a losing situation as well.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It's well right, it depends on you're right it is
it could be a losing situation, of course. Others say
this is a great opportunity for ABC. And you know,
the pressure was on for CNN when they did the debate.
It's the same rules from June to now.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I think they did a nice job.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well yeah, but there's plenty.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Of people who said that CNN they didn't fact check,
they didn't interrupt enough, they just let them go. And
and on one hand, that made it for more palatable
viewing in that there wasn't the.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But is it the moderator's job per se to fact
check all of that, or is it the opponent's job
it's there debating. They should be able to call each
other out if they do a fact check at the end,
I think that's great.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
It well and then post in their analysis shows right, they.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Always have a fact checker.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I shouldn't say always, but there is a fact checker
usually or all the publications anyway, how many times did
Trump say misinformation?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
How many times did Harris say so we.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Can expect that ABC sees this as a huge responsibility.
The moderators are David Muir and Lindsay Davis. They say
that they will be there quote to facilitate, so it's
less of that, you know, fact checking, in more to
just make sure everyone minds.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Their p's and q's. Yeah, that's how I read that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I think that's hard. Fact checking is hard to do
if because it's almost.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, well, so much information.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Because I when I watch these, I'm always watching it
from the newsroom.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'm always putting myself.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
In that position, you know, if I ever had the
opportunity to sit there and to be on that stage.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
There's so much information, and again.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's so much easier to be on your couch and
to be able to call people out than it is
if you're there in person.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Again, this is their job. This is their job as
journalists to be up there.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But when so much information and everyone it's all happening,
you know, live, it's it's it's one of the challenges.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I just think that it's their battle and they
got to catch each other on it and then the
news station afterwards, because what if you catch one on
one side and miss the other on the other side,
It's you end up being a referee for a fight
that is really theirs, and they need to be able
to stand their ground, not only on memorizing their own points,
(10:30):
but being able. That's a debate is being able to
go listen, you just made this claim and that's not true.
One of my favorite features on social media now is
when you can make an addendum to something. You can
go on and say, here's the the here's multiple articles
that refute this statement or that said this was ai
(10:52):
or said I love when you can attach that to
something that makes that's you know, uh, makes it fair.
But during a match like this, where you've got two
people going at it, it's on them to call you
out each other out.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
An estimated just over fifty one million people watch Biden
and Trump in June. That was before many people were
truly tuned into the election.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh this is going to be bigger.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Than Yeah, this is going to be well super Bowl.
Nothing really lives up to the super Bowl. The NFL
is the most highly watched thing that we can put
on television these days.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So if you could dump gatorade on one of them,
that'd be awesome. He's like, yeah, just dune on both
of them. One gets blue, one gets red, and just whoa, Okay,
maybe not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm just trying to add a little sex appeal to.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The I'm just I'm visualizing Trump's hair.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh my god, it would move.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh but man, that that red would just give him
a little extra rosiness. I'm tired of them referring to
Kamala as a person of color and not referring to
him as a person of color.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Orange is a color touche. Boom tip your waitresses, everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He's here all week.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, more to come the wee folks.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You can be glad, I.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Know, sliding slowly into the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So some twists and turns in the Hunter bidened trial
and or pre trial or pre pre trial.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
The trial that never was there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You go and it was so eloquent the way our
very own Wayne Resnick, as a twenty eight year veteran
of the Federal Probation Program Department. He did such a
great job we thought we'll invite him on. So Wayne,
how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Thank you, you are too kind. And of course, Marla,
welcome to the KFI family. I haven't had a chance
to meet you before. I know, very nice to meet too,
and you're quite awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Oh gosh, thanks Wayne, I love listening to you, and
no kidding this morning.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I'm getting ready.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And when you broke it down with Bill and you know,
of course we covered it yesterday with our own reporter
at Fox eleven who was there for the Hunter Biden thing.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You you're just a master. I felt like I was
in school and you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
May all make sense. Thank you very much. All right,
well you want to get into it, let's get into it,
all right.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So you said, Neil, you said like twists and turns
you referred to, and this has been a case with
some crazy m Night Chamalan level twists and turn in fact,
maybe even twisty or because his Chamalan's twisted turns you
can kind of see coming now and the first one
was a long time ago, and you'll remember he has
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a gun case. He has the tax case, and a
long time ago they reached a deal Hunter Biden and
the special prosecutor to wrap up both of those cases
in a deal, and a lot of people said the
deal was too lenient.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And the judge in the gun.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Case, who was hearing the whole thing, said, Hey, I've
got some questions that no judge judge ever really asks.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But I want to ask him.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And it has to do with whether or not he
can be charged in the future with certain other things,
or whether this plea agreement makes him immune. And there
was a disagreement between Hunter Biden's team and the prosecutors
about whether it did make him immune from future tax charges,
and the whole thing blew up. Now we fast forward
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to just yesterday, they're getting ready for trial. All this
time in the tax case, Hunter Biden has been saying
I'm not guilty, We're gonna go to trial.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
They actually have a jury pool.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
And Hunter Biden's team walks into court and says, surprise, everybody,
I want to plead guilty. Now I have seen plenty
of people plead guilty at the jury selection stage, because
what happens is it's all abstract to a defendant until
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you see the faces of the people who may judge you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And it is not uncommon at that point.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
For a defendant to say, oh my gosh, I don't
want to go through this.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I just want to plead guilty.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But Hunter Biden's surprise was a little different because he
wanted to plead guilty under this case called Alfred An
Alford plea is a plea where you're convicted, but you
affirmatively maintain that you're.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Innocent, sort of the best of both worlds. For a defendant.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is because it usually allows them to dispose of
a case. Usually it's because there's some kind of a
deal with the prosecutors to get a break on sentencing
or to plead to a lesser charge. And yet, as
you point out, Marla, the person is able to walk
around and say, hey, I am innocent. I just took
this deal because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Want to deal.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I didn't want to go through that. And the prosecutors
went crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
They did not like this in one bit because they
have they've been preparing for this day. Jerry selection was
to start yesterday. All of their hard work sort of
all for.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Not yes, And and look, I don't know these this
particular team of prosecutors, but I've known a lot of prosecutors,
and I can tell you as a general rule, there
is a type of prosecutor that if you make them
prepare for trial, and you get that far into the process,
and then you deny them the opportunity to show what
a good boy they were with all of their homework,
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they are this is the legal term, but hurt to
the extreme. Wow, So they were. They were upset. They
wanted to Judge Scargy to not allow Hunter Biden to
even do it. So that was your next big Remember
you had the kaboom all that time ago when the
p deal blew up.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Get a kaboom.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yesterday, Wayne, Who would have allowed that that Alfred plea?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who who with a judge would have to.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Both sides have to agree, right?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, okay, No, the process com cuter doesn't have the
legal power to stop it. They can try to persuade
the judge who could decline to take such a plea,
but the prosecutor can't actually make it stop. But they
wanted him to not accept it, or to not even
allow it. To be pursued and scarzy. The things that
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he said were pretty right on. He said, well, there
might be a way to do it if he's willing
to agree to enough facts in the record, even though
he then says I'm not I don't think I'm guilty.
That somebody else could look at the facts that he's
agreed to and say, well, those facts make you guilty,
then it might be okay. He said, go file something
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and uh, and then I'll read it and then I'll decide.
And then apparently Hunter Biden doesn't want a trial so
much that when it looked like there was even a
possibility he would not be allowed to plead under this
Alford system, he went in and said, ah, forget it.
Let's just plead. Let's just plead regular. It's called an
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open plea. He pleads to all nine counts. There's no
agreement about anything. He cannot expect any kind of leniency
from the government, he cannot expect any kind of leniency
from the judge. He will have to take the lumps,
whatever they are.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So that strategy is basically, I don't want to go
to trial.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
That strategy is I don't want to go to trial.
So bad that I am now willing to plead guilty
without any hope of any deal and literally throw myself
at the mercy of the government with their recommendations and
the judge who was appointed by Donald Trump his decisions
about what should happen to me.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And it's because of all the.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Salacious personal things that would come out at a trial,
because one of the charges that has to do with
tax evasion has to do with taking deductions for things
that were actually non deductible, like and I'm not trying
to pile on Hunter Biden. I actually feel kind of
bad for Hunter Biden, and I'll tell you why in
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a second, because there's a fact that hasn't really come
out that to me looking at it legally changes how
mad I am at him for not paying his taxes.
But for one year, the year twenty eighteen, that tax year,
he took a bunch of deductions, when in fact, he
spent one hundred thousand and three hundred and thirty dollars
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on adult entertainment and three hundred and eighty three thousand
plus in payments to various women. And that's right from
the indictment. So you know, he was a busy fellow
in ways that he really at this point doesn't want
to put his family through, doesn't want to embarrass them,
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and probably himself is tired of being embarrassed by these things.
So that's how badly he didn't want to go to trial,
whether or not he did feel sincerely that he had
strong legal case in his defense.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now here's the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Thing that to me changes the complexion of the case
a little bit. These problems with his taxes are generally
confined to the second half of the twenty tens, twenty
sixteen through twenty twenty, well before that, before the drugs
in his life went off the rails. This is what
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he did in order to make sure that he did
pay his taxes properly. He set up a company, the
sole purpose of which was to collect all of his
income and make sure that enough taxes were withheld to
meet any tax burdens. He also had his people set
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up a separate account called the tax account, where money
was put in case he ended up owing more taxes
than the withholding would cover. He was hyper diligent for
a while about taking care of his tax liabilities. And
that's not me saying it as some way of trying
to spin things to try to make him look better.
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That's in the indictment as well. That is the prosecutor
saying that he did those things now and I'll finish
up with this. They're saying that to prove that he
knew that he was supposed to file and pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's their reason for bringing it up.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
But it also shows somebody who did not have a
criminal mindset his whole adult life about taxes, but rather
something happened and he became kind of a different person,
and then he went off the rails. And I have
no I'm not saying he shouldn't have been charged and
that he shouldn't be punished.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I'm saying he's different than a lot of tax evaders
that I have seen.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay, two points, Speaking of his upcoming punishment, if he
were found guilty on all these charges, he would face
I think up to what seventeen years?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Well, that's what that's the statutory maximum, which represents the
absolute most time that a judge can legally give him
under the federal sentencing guidelines, which is the starting point
to consider a sentence. He's looking at between two and
four years under those guidelines, it depends on how much
more tax loss they could they throw into the case.
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And then the judge has pretty much unfettered discretion to
impose whatever sentence the judge thinks is most appropriate.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay, so at most two to four years.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And then of course there is a question on whether
or not his father would pardon him. Of course the
White House is saying the Biden administration is saying no.
They double down on that yesterday. I'm not mistaken saying
that that wouldn't happen. You brought up a point today
that that doesn't mean that a madam president wouldn't pardon him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Sure, Joe Biden is not going to break that promise
to not pardon his son.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
But Kamala Harris has not made any statements about whether
she would or not.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So I know somebody who really wants to come up
Harris to be the next president, and his name is
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well we shall see.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I'm sure that will go over like a turd and
a punch bowl if that happens, But we shall see.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Mister Wayne Resnick, thanks so much. Of course.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You can hear him now when he jumps on with
Bill Handle every Monday. Do they have a case at
the end of the show, and whenever we're lucky to have.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You, I like to learn from you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Wayne.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Thank you so much, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So good to meet you.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
All right, guys, talk to you soon, all.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right, Wayne Resnick, Ladies and gentlemen. Hey, I'd love for
you to follow us.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You can follow find Marla Tayas at Marla Teas on
Instagram all the socials.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, and I most like you. I'm most active on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I like Instagram, so you can find me there
at four Reporter.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
At four Reporter, I'm going to post a picture for
Flashback Friday of me with spiked hair because we talked
about the punk rock stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You're not going to post the one that I saw.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What you saw that one too, I've.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Already forgotten with the spiked hair.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
With the guitar and the that was the first one
you saw.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Okay, Hey, I'm getting old.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
That was a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yes, tell your face that.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But I'll post that up there shortly because I was
talking about being a little punker back in the day.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
This stuff sucks.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
A woman loses nearly one million dollars life savings in
what they call a pig butcherin scam.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I hadn't heard that phrase.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It makes sense either, So do you want to describe
what that is?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So, just as a farmer fattens up a pig for slaughter,
in this so called pig butchering scam, the scammer gains
a victims trust over a long period of time, fattens
them up, if you will, and then goes in for
the kill by stealing their life savings.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
So it's low and slow. It's the long game, low
and slow.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Like barbecue, barbecue, not brilliing.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Got it girl? Yep?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So he says he's working on an oil rig. Something
broke down. You know, can you send me twenty grand?
She says, whoa? You know what I need to pray
about this second time she sent thirty five grand. Then
two weeks later another thirty five.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Her husband.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
So that's it has passed away, passed away decades ago,
and recently this woman out of Illinois, she met a
man online.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She had saved one million dollars in investment accounts.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And her kids had no idea.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, they had no idea that she had that kind
of money. And you know, when you're feeling. We all
want to be loved. You all want to love someone,
be loved, be connected with somebody. And if she's feeling
a connection, she may be embarrassed to say these things.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And you know what's going to come when it involves money.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
What should come is like, no, nah, don't, you're not
scamming anybody.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
And well, you know, the scammers often prey on those
who have lost a spouse and would love attention. And
so the scammer asks or not asks, tells her that
they love her.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, the first thing you start with that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The flowers come and so she's just enamored.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And then they and this person played on her faith
as well, saying that, hey, my pastor is sending me
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Can you match it? Oh my god, ask sir.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So now you're, you know, implying, hey, my pastor trusts me,
even though you don't know any of that. And so
over all that time it reached a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It is so sad.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
She was sending one hundred K, three hundred k, fifty
thousand at a time, left and right. She's down from
almost a million dollars. She has four hundred dollars left
four hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And so she goes, you know, files reports, the FBI
and the like, and people and the Secret Service. The
Secret Service is actually part of the Treasury Department.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know a lot of people that know that,
so it's kind of odd.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But agents told them the bankers should have spotted the
unusual patterns, and you think they should if you're dumping
that kind of money, if you're taking that kind of
money out of your bank. I mean, it's not their
problem per se, but you think they'd say, hey, you're
having unusual account activity.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
And they never did. They never asked, why you closing
this whole account?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
This is what she was left with, four hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In four hundred bucks, if there's a million dollars in
an account, you're down to four hundred dollars, you don't
think they'd say, hey, is everything okay.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
So while the FBI and recovery teams they've had a
lot of success in the years recovering hundreds of millions
of dollars for victims, she is not one of them.
They were unable to recover any of her losses, and
she lost her home, all of her longtime memories, her
furniture all gone. As a result, she's literally left with
(28:11):
nothing four hundred dollars and officials they just simply say
this to avoid becoming a victim of a scammer.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Never send money to anyone you meet online. Ever.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, it's here's the thing. I'm fascinated by security. There
was a point in my life where I even wanted
to go into executive security and things like that. And
I'm fascinated by these types of things and have studying
them for a long time as to how these things work.
One particular aspect is social engineering. There is zero technology
(28:50):
on the planet security wise that can best social engineering.
Meaning if there is, if you have all the technology
in the world, but somebody can press a button to
let you in, you.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Can get it well. And what's sad is this happens
face to face too. I remember when my god rest
his soul. My grandfather was passing and in the hospital
there's a woman who befriended him and it was sort
of under our nose and.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
He recovered a pardon me, I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
It was my grandmother who was passing, and so this
woman prays on my grandfather because he's going to soon
be a widow and so from that and they're literally
scouring the hospital halls and he did get scammed out
of several tens of thousands of dollars to this particular
woman and we went after her to no avail. And
(29:52):
it's just the praying on the loss, you know, no
intention of ever loving this person. And it happens every
single day. It's it's so yeah, I mean it's it's
it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So yeah. It happens online, it happens face to face.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's the Yeah, it's and because we have emotions and
when you're a good person, you're not thinking that people
are doing you. You would hopefully you'd never think like
that that could happen because it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
No, it shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But in this country we reward bad behavior. Can I
just get this off my chest? This reminds me of Anna,
Anna Delvy, Anna reinventing Anna.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Ikam aware of it?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, So she is a con artist.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
She's currently wearing an ankle monitor and dancing with the
stars just cast her as they're one of their new
contestants on the.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Show Marca and there is a lot.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Of backlash against ABC New ABC and Dancing with the
Stars for putting this out there. I mean, this is
Disney and yeah, I just I can't believe they're lifting
somebody up who was a noted con artist and now
she's part of Dancing with the Stars with an ankle monitor.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I wonder if that's going to affect her dancing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They say it's a nice successory.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh, she's gonna have to dazzle it.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
They're putting the spin on it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yuck America. All right, Neil Savedra Marlotez more to come.
We've got what's happening. A friend, Bill Bracken is coming
to talk about the Hungry Games seven point zero, an
event that you should know about. It involves food and
helping those that are hungry in our very own southern
(31:38):
California neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So stick around.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
For that and of course nine news nuggets.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But do they need to know them? Yes, okay, then
we'll do them. No, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I just didn't want to give them nine news nuggets
that they don't need. You need and needs more news nuggets,
and let if you need them, we'll give them to you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Let's do some swamp watch. Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
The government doesn't work. Come man, gonna make us like
a reality TV show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Was a bad doo, always a pleasure to be anywhere
from Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Hey Joe, a town all too clearly built on a
swamp and in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Still a swamp. I have a watch of Maworkee, he said,
Drained the swamp.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I said, Oh, that's so, I'll keep happen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know the thing, it's kind of weird twist this
story on how things go the Trump.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Are we looking at the same story it's from right here.
No not, I'm looking at the other one.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, So Trump concedes twenty twenty loss could if he
conceding that twenty twenty loss could mean legal trouble, so
says former Deputy.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ag So.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Former President Donald Trump recently changed in how he characterizes
the twenty twenty election results. Maybe good politics, they say,
because if he can see you know that hole.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was robbed. I was robbed.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I was robbed doesn't always play well, but it's a
bad legal strategy. According one of the former Justice Department officials,
this is, you know, there is some point where and
I think I mentioned this yesterday, the Lincoln quote that
if you don't lie, you never have to remember anything.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
And if you're throwing things out that aren't always factual,
or you go down a path where you're beating a
particular drum, you're going to be held accountable for that
unless you make an honest reversal and say, new information,
new evidence has come to my attention, and this is
where it's at.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
But one of his most recent quotes, Trump I'm referred into, uh,
not long ago August thirtieth. He says, quote, we got
the most votes of anybody of any sitting president in history,
and he beat us by a whisker. He's made similar
comments and other you know, appearances in the past few days,
in the past several years.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
And Tom Dupree, who was a deputy assistant Attorney General in.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
The George W.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Bush administration, he said, quote, it was probably politically smart
for Trump to admit he lost the election, but legally
that sure could have consequences.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Well because some of the statements, I mean, being sued
now by people have said, you gosh, and I'm trying
to think of the former mayor of New York, oh oh,
Juliani sounds like yeah, and that he was sued by
(02:56):
He stepped to it as one of the todies of
and said, you know, this is what happened, and then.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He would he was sued. Were they folks from.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Georgia that said that they besmirched them and all of
that and he got nailed for that. So maybe that's
what they're talking about, is that in this particular case,
if now you're saying, yes, we lost, then there is no.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, there is no mess.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You're just shown your cards.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that's gonna come back to bite
him in the ass.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Okay, Well, I would assume that the Trump team is
categorizing this ruling by Judge One Rashaan today as a win.
And that is the sentencing in the hush money case,
the thirty four counts of false buying business records that
the president was found guilty of the former president was
found guilty of back in May. That sentenceing has now
(03:52):
officially been delayed to November. The twenty sixth, so post
the present ssidential election, it was supposed to happen in
the coming days, expected by September the sixteenth, while that
delay officially approved today until November twenty sixth.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's got to help, you know, Yeah, just that it's
not a less heavy lifting prior to the election, and
obviously less negativity prior to the election and moving in
a better direction that is probably well welcomed. All right,
Neil Savedro marlatez in for Gary and Shannon more Swamp
(04:31):
watch to come to go nowhere. Also, Wayne Resnick is
going to join us at the bottom of the hour
to talk about Hunter Biden. He was twenty eight years
as a federal probation officer and.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He knows his stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, and just an.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Excellent breakdown of it on the Morning show today, and
we invited him to come in and he said yeah,
So he'll be joining us a little bit later at
the bottom of the hour as well.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Ah oh, mart I have to do the heimlig Oh my.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
God, I was laughing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You were You're you're so just the facts.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I love it, And you're like, what.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do I respond to? What is the best way?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
What the hell happened. Oh my gosh. The old joke,
hey were you hit by a car? No?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You got to post that photo.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh no, the old joke was, hey were you hit
by a truck? No, it was a car. I'll post
one of the spiked hair ones. That's amazing because Steve
Gregory we were talking about high school or whatever, and
he sent a picture of me from like ninth grade
a yearbook. He knows a police officer apparently that I
(05:42):
went to school with. He didn't give me the name
of the fellow, but it would have been. I was
only there the first two years. So he sent it
the yearbook picture, and I said, it's funny because my
hair is down, and I'm like, I wonder if my
either that or I could have been wearing a hat
or something and took it off.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They wouldn't let me wear it. But my hair was
down and not spiked.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Did you did you blow dry your hair back then?
I mean, like style it? No, that just as natural.
Why does that happen? Do you know how much we
have to do for our hair, like in terms of
and that's just natural hair.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
No, that was just natural.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, you'd have to hang upside.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Sure, sure, sure, but that hair, Okay, you don't throw
that hair was just natural.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's amazing. You got to throw that up on the socials.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh my god, it's funny. Okay, your face.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Hey, I know people around here.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I've never It's like, for context, I've never seen you
except for now.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I've never seen any older pictures.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
There's some in the hallways here at KFI, but you
look exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
There's there's no no I had hair when I came
to KFI, but I took it off not long after.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
But the pictures that I've seen, all the stuff you see,
so I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So it's shocking.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It's literally it's like the heat when you go outside
after being into ac it takes your brother.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Your response was just like what I thought you were
going to cuss? And what that have happened?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Okay, speaking of cussing, that brings us to our continued
conversation in swamp watch swamp watch?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All right, where were we? Oh my god?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, let's let's we're we're what four days move down
to four days until the debate.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yes, so it's coming up on the tenth. Uh, and
you know things are heating up. They went ahead and
agreed to the everybody agreed with everything they're going to
do the debate. It's not just uh Trump and Harris though.
When you break this stuff down, is to have a
lot at stake. ABC News has as well. I mean,
(07:45):
it's a big deal in every it's hard to do
these things without getting nailed. It's hard to moderate without
getting nailed, and to be as unbiased as possible to
try and keep control.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's almost a losing situation as well.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It's well right, it depends on you're right it is
it could be a losing situation, of course. Others say
this is a great opportunity for ABC. And you know,
the pressure was on for CNN when they did the debate.
It's the same rules from June to now.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I think they did a nice job.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well yeah, but there's plenty.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Of people who said that CNN they didn't fact check,
they didn't interrupt enough, they just let them go. And
and on one hand, that made it for more palatable
viewing in that there wasn't the.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But is it the moderator's job per se to fact
check all of that, or is it the opponent's job
it's there debating. They should be able to call each
other out if they do a fact check at the end,
I think that's great.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
It well and then post in their analysis shows right, they.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Always have a fact checker.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I shouldn't say always, but there is a fact checker
usually or all the publications anyway, how many times did
Trump say misinformation?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
How many times did Harris say so we.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Can expect that ABC sees this as a huge responsibility.
The moderators are David Muir and Lindsay Davis. They say
that they will be there quote to facilitate, so it's
less of that, you know, fact checking, in more to
just make sure everyone minds.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Their p's and q's. Yeah, that's how I read that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I think that's hard. Fact checking is hard to do
if because it's almost.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, well, so much information.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Because I when I watch these, I'm always watching it
from the newsroom.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'm always putting myself.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
In that position, you know, if I ever had the
opportunity to sit there and to be on that stage.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
There's so much information, and again.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's so much easier to be on your couch and
to be able to call people out than it is
if you're there in person.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Again, this is their job. This is their job as
journalists to be up there.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But when so much information and everyone it's all happening,
you know, live, it's it's it's one of the challenges.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I just think that it's their battle and they
got to catch each other on it and then the
news station afterwards, because what if you catch one on
one side and miss the other on the other side,
It's you end up being a referee for a fight
that is really theirs, and they need to be able
to stand their ground, not only on memorizing their own points,
(10:30):
but being able. That's a debate is being able to
go listen, you just made this claim and that's not true.
One of my favorite features on social media now is
when you can make an addendum to something. You can
go on and say, here's the the here's multiple articles
that refute this statement or that said this was ai
(10:52):
or said I love when you can attach that to
something that makes that's you know, uh, makes it fair.
But during a match like this, where you've got two
people going at it, it's on them to call you
out each other out.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
An estimated just over fifty one million people watch Biden
and Trump in June. That was before many people were
truly tuned into the election.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh this is going to be bigger.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Than Yeah, this is going to be well super Bowl.
Nothing really lives up to the super Bowl. The NFL
is the most highly watched thing that we can put
on television these days.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So if you could dump gatorade on one of them,
that'd be awesome. He's like, yeah, just dune on both
of them. One gets blue, one gets red, and just whoa, Okay,
maybe not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm just trying to add a little sex appeal to.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The I'm just I'm visualizing Trump's hair.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh my god, it would move.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh but man, that that red would just give him
a little extra rosiness. I'm tired of them referring to
Kamala as a person of color and not referring to
him as a person of color.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Orange is a color touche. Boom tip your waitresses, everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He's here all week.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, more to come the wee folks.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You can be glad, I.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Know, sliding slowly into the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So some twists and turns in the Hunter bidened trial
and or pre trial or pre pre trial.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
The trial that never was there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You go and it was so eloquent the way our
very own Wayne Resnick, as a twenty eight year veteran
of the Federal Probation Program Department. He did such a
great job we thought we'll invite him on. So Wayne,
how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Thank you, you are too kind. And of course, Marla,
welcome to the KFI family. I haven't had a chance
to meet you before. I know, very nice to meet too,
and you're quite awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Oh gosh, thanks Wayne, I love listening to you, and
no kidding this morning.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I'm getting ready.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And when you broke it down with Bill and you know,
of course we covered it yesterday with our own reporter
at Fox eleven who was there for the Hunter Biden thing.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You you're just a master. I felt like I was
in school and you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
May all make sense. Thank you very much. All right,
well you want to get into it, let's get into it,
all right.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So you said, Neil, you said like twists and turns
you referred to, and this has been a case with
some crazy m Night Chamalan level twists and turn in fact,
maybe even twisty or because his Chamalan's twisted turns you
can kind of see coming now and the first one
was a long time ago, and you'll remember he has
(13:36):
a gun case. He has the tax case, and a
long time ago they reached a deal Hunter Biden and
the special prosecutor to wrap up both of those cases
in a deal, and a lot of people said the
deal was too lenient.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And the judge in the gun.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Case, who was hearing the whole thing, said, Hey, I've
got some questions that no judge judge ever really asks.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But I want to ask him.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And it has to do with whether or not he
can be charged in the future with certain other things,
or whether this plea agreement makes him immune. And there
was a disagreement between Hunter Biden's team and the prosecutors
about whether it did make him immune from future tax charges,
and the whole thing blew up. Now we fast forward
(14:24):
to just yesterday, they're getting ready for trial. All this
time in the tax case, Hunter Biden has been saying
I'm not guilty, We're gonna go to trial.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
They actually have a jury pool.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
And Hunter Biden's team walks into court and says, surprise, everybody,
I want to plead guilty. Now I have seen plenty
of people plead guilty at the jury selection stage, because
what happens is it's all abstract to a defendant until
(14:57):
you see the faces of the people who may judge you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And it is not uncommon at that point.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
For a defendant to say, oh my gosh, I don't
want to go through this.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I just want to plead guilty.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But Hunter Biden's surprise was a little different because he
wanted to plead guilty under this case called Alfred An
Alford plea is a plea where you're convicted, but you
affirmatively maintain that you're.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Innocent, sort of the best of both worlds. For a defendant.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is because it usually allows them to dispose of
a case. Usually it's because there's some kind of a
deal with the prosecutors to get a break on sentencing
or to plead to a lesser charge. And yet, as
you point out, Marla, the person is able to walk
around and say, hey, I am innocent. I just took
this deal because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Want to deal.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I didn't want to go through that. And the prosecutors
went crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
They did not like this in one bit because they
have they've been preparing for this day. Jerry selection was
to start yesterday. All of their hard work sort of
all for.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Not yes, And and look, I don't know these this
particular team of prosecutors, but I've known a lot of prosecutors,
and I can tell you as a general rule, there
is a type of prosecutor that if you make them
prepare for trial, and you get that far into the process,
and then you deny them the opportunity to show what
a good boy they were with all of their homework,
(16:28):
they are this is the legal term, but hurt to
the extreme. Wow, So they were. They were upset. They
wanted to Judge Scargy to not allow Hunter Biden to
even do it. So that was your next big Remember
you had the kaboom all that time ago when the
p deal blew up.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Get a kaboom.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yesterday, Wayne, Who would have allowed that that Alfred plea?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Who who with a judge would have to.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Both sides have to agree, right?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, okay, No, the process com cuter doesn't have the
legal power to stop it. They can try to persuade
the judge who could decline to take such a plea,
but the prosecutor can't actually make it stop. But they
wanted him to not accept it, or to not even
allow it. To be pursued and scarzy. The things that
(17:20):
he said were pretty right on. He said, well, there
might be a way to do it if he's willing
to agree to enough facts in the record, even though
he then says I'm not I don't think I'm guilty.
That somebody else could look at the facts that he's
agreed to and say, well, those facts make you guilty,
then it might be okay. He said, go file something
(17:42):
and uh, and then I'll read it and then I'll decide.
And then apparently Hunter Biden doesn't want a trial so
much that when it looked like there was even a
possibility he would not be allowed to plead under this
Alford system, he went in and said, ah, forget it.
Let's just plead. Let's just plead regular. It's called an
(18:05):
open plea. He pleads to all nine counts. There's no
agreement about anything. He cannot expect any kind of leniency
from the government, he cannot expect any kind of leniency
from the judge. He will have to take the lumps,
whatever they are.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
So that strategy is basically, I don't want to go
to trial.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
That strategy is I don't want to go to trial.
So bad that I am now willing to plead guilty
without any hope of any deal and literally throw myself
at the mercy of the government with their recommendations and
the judge who was appointed by Donald Trump his decisions
about what should happen to me.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And it's because of all the.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Salacious personal things that would come out at a trial,
because one of the charges that has to do with
tax evasion has to do with taking deductions for things
that were actually non deductible, like and I'm not trying
to pile on Hunter Biden. I actually feel kind of
bad for Hunter Biden, and I'll tell you why in
(19:08):
a second, because there's a fact that hasn't really come
out that to me looking at it legally changes how
mad I am at him for not paying his taxes.
But for one year, the year twenty eighteen, that tax year,
he took a bunch of deductions, when in fact, he
spent one hundred thousand and three hundred and thirty dollars
(19:29):
on adult entertainment and three hundred and eighty three thousand
plus in payments to various women. And that's right from
the indictment. So you know, he was a busy fellow
in ways that he really at this point doesn't want
to put his family through, doesn't want to embarrass them,
(19:50):
and probably himself is tired of being embarrassed by these things.
So that's how badly he didn't want to go to trial,
whether or not he did feel sincerely that he had
strong legal case in his defense.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now here's the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Thing that to me changes the complexion of the case
a little bit. These problems with his taxes are generally
confined to the second half of the twenty tens, twenty
sixteen through twenty twenty, well before that, before the drugs
in his life went off the rails. This is what
(20:25):
he did in order to make sure that he did
pay his taxes properly. He set up a company, the
sole purpose of which was to collect all of his
income and make sure that enough taxes were withheld to
meet any tax burdens. He also had his people set
(20:46):
up a separate account called the tax account, where money
was put in case he ended up owing more taxes
than the withholding would cover. He was hyper diligent for
a while about taking care of his tax liabilities. And
that's not me saying it as some way of trying
to spin things to try to make him look better.
(21:07):
That's in the indictment as well. That is the prosecutor
saying that he did those things now and I'll finish
up with this. They're saying that to prove that he
knew that he was supposed to file and pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's their reason for bringing it up.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
But it also shows somebody who did not have a
criminal mindset his whole adult life about taxes, but rather
something happened and he became kind of a different person,
and then he went off the rails. And I have
no I'm not saying he shouldn't have been charged and
that he shouldn't be punished.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I'm saying he's different than a lot of tax evaders
that I have seen.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay, two points, Speaking of his upcoming punishment, if he
were found guilty on all these charges, he would face
I think up to what seventeen years?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Well, that's what that's the statutory maximum, which represents the
absolute most time that a judge can legally give him
under the federal sentencing guidelines, which is the starting point
to consider a sentence. He's looking at between two and
four years under those guidelines, it depends on how much
more tax loss they could they throw into the case.
(22:17):
And then the judge has pretty much unfettered discretion to
impose whatever sentence the judge thinks is most appropriate.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay, so at most two to four years.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And then of course there is a question on whether
or not his father would pardon him. Of course the
White House is saying the Biden administration is saying no.
They double down on that yesterday. I'm not mistaken saying
that that wouldn't happen. You brought up a point today
that that doesn't mean that a madam president wouldn't pardon him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Sure, Joe Biden is not going to break that promise
to not pardon his son.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
But Kamala Harris has not made any statements about whether
she would or not.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So I know somebody who really wants to come up
Harris to be the next president, and his name is
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well we shall see.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I'm sure that will go over like a turd and
a punch bowl if that happens, But we shall see.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Mister Wayne Resnick, thanks so much. Of course.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You can hear him now when he jumps on with
Bill Handle every Monday. Do they have a case at
the end of the show, and whenever we're lucky to have.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You, I like to learn from you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Wayne.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Thank you so much, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So good to meet you.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
All right, guys, talk to you soon, all.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
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Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, and I most like you. I'm most active on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
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at four Reporter.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
At four Reporter, I'm going to post a picture for
Flashback Friday of me with spiked hair because we talked
about the punk rock stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You're not going to post the one that I saw.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
What you saw that one too, I've.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Already forgotten with the spiked hair.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
With the guitar and the that was the first one
you saw.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Okay, Hey, I'm getting old.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
That was a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yes, tell your face that.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But I'll post that up there shortly because I was
talking about being a little punker back in the day.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
This stuff sucks.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
A woman loses nearly one million dollars life savings in
what they call a pig butcherin scam.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I hadn't heard that phrase.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
It makes sense either, So do you want to describe
what that is?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So, just as a farmer fattens up a pig for slaughter,
in this so called pig butchering scam, the scammer gains
a victims trust over a long period of time, fattens
them up, if you will, and then goes in for
the kill by stealing their life savings.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
So it's low and slow. It's the long game, low
and slow.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Like barbecue, barbecue, not brilliing.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Got it girl? Yep?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So he says he's working on an oil rig. Something
broke down. You know, can you send me twenty grand?
She says, whoa? You know what I need to pray
about this second time she sent thirty five grand. Then
two weeks later another thirty five.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Her husband.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
So that's it has passed away, passed away decades ago,
and recently this woman out of Illinois, she met a
man online.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She had saved one million dollars in investment accounts.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And her kids had no idea.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, they had no idea that she had that kind
of money. And you know, when you're feeling. We all
want to be loved. You all want to love someone,
be loved, be connected with somebody. And if she's feeling
a connection, she may be embarrassed to say these things.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And you know what's going to come when it involves money.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
What should come is like, no, nah, don't, you're not
scamming anybody.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
And well, you know, the scammers often prey on those
who have lost a spouse and would love attention. And
so the scammer asks or not asks, tells her that
they love her.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, the first thing you start with that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The flowers come and so she's just enamored.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And then they and this person played on her faith
as well, saying that, hey, my pastor is sending me
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Can you match it? Oh my god, ask sir.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So now you're, you know, implying, hey, my pastor trusts me,
even though you don't know any of that. And so
over all that time it reached a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It is so sad.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
She was sending one hundred K, three hundred k, fifty
thousand at a time, left and right. She's down from
almost a million dollars. She has four hundred dollars left
four hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And so she goes, you know, files reports, the FBI
and the like, and people and the Secret Service. The
Secret Service is actually part of the Treasury Department.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know a lot of people that know that,
so it's kind of odd.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But agents told them the bankers should have spotted the
unusual patterns, and you think they should if you're dumping
that kind of money, if you're taking that kind of
money out of your bank. I mean, it's not their
problem per se, but you think they'd say, hey, you're
having unusual account activity.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
And they never did. They never asked, why you closing
this whole account?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
This is what she was left with, four hundred bucks.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
In four hundred bucks, if there's a million dollars in
an account, you're down to four hundred dollars, you don't
think they'd say, hey, is everything okay.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
So while the FBI and recovery teams they've had a
lot of success in the years recovering hundreds of millions
of dollars for victims, she is not one of them.
They were unable to recover any of her losses, and
she lost her home, all of her longtime memories, her
furniture all gone. As a result, she's literally left with
(28:11):
nothing four hundred dollars and officials they just simply say
this to avoid becoming a victim of a scammer.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Never send money to anyone you meet online. Ever.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, it's here's the thing. I'm fascinated by security. There
was a point in my life where I even wanted
to go into executive security and things like that. And
I'm fascinated by these types of things and have studying
them for a long time as to how these things work.
One particular aspect is social engineering. There is zero technology
(28:50):
on the planet security wise that can best social engineering.
Meaning if there is, if you have all the technology
in the world, but somebody can press a button to
let you in, you.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Can get it well. And what's sad is this happens
face to face too. I remember when my god rest
his soul. My grandfather was passing and in the hospital
there's a woman who befriended him and it was sort
of under our nose and.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
He recovered a pardon me, I'm so sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
It was my grandmother who was passing, and so this
woman prays on my grandfather because he's going to soon
be a widow and so from that and they're literally
scouring the hospital halls and he did get scammed out
of several tens of thousands of dollars to this particular
woman and we went after her to no avail. And
(29:52):
it's just the praying on the loss, you know, no
intention of ever loving this person. And it happens every
single day. It's it's so yeah, I mean it's it's
it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So yeah. It happens online, it happens face to face.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's the Yeah, it's and because we have emotions and
when you're a good person, you're not thinking that people
are doing you. You would hopefully you'd never think like
that that could happen because it shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
No, it shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But in this country we reward bad behavior. Can I
just get this off my chest? This reminds me of Anna,
Anna Delvy, Anna reinventing Anna.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Ikam aware of it?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, So she is a con artist.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
She's currently wearing an ankle monitor and dancing with the
stars just cast her as they're one of their new
contestants on the.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Show Marca and there is a lot.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Of backlash against ABC New ABC and Dancing with the
Stars for putting this out there. I mean, this is
Disney and yeah, I just I can't believe they're lifting
somebody up who was a noted con artist and now
she's part of Dancing with the Stars with an ankle monitor.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I wonder if that's going to affect her dancing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They say it's a nice successory.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh, she's gonna have to dazzle it.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
They're putting the spin on it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yuck America. All right, Neil Savedra Marlotez more to come.
We've got what's happening. A friend, Bill Bracken is coming
to talk about the Hungry Games seven point zero, an
event that you should know about. It involves food and
helping those that are hungry in our very own southern
(31:38):
California neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So stick around.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
For that and of course nine news nuggets.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But do they need to know them? Yes, okay, then
we'll do them. No, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I just didn't want to give them nine news nuggets
that they don't need. You need and needs more news nuggets,
and let if you need them, we'll give them to you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
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