September 9, 2024 • 32 mins
Gary is out and Phil Shuman fills in with Shannon. Phil and Shannon start the show by talking with KFI’s Blake Troli on the Highland Fire. Phil and Shannon also preview tomorrow’s debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Am six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
That hit that thing right there there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
He started on KNBC when you were in kindergarten and
then I've been on Fox Leve about fifteen years or so. Yeah,
it's been great and I remember seeing you out in
the field back in the day. That was fun, toting
that microphone and the old fashioned tape recorder.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's great to be here with you. I'm looking forward
to it. Good, good, good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So Phil Schuman in for Gary for a couple of
days again. We will be out at Crito's in BJ
or in Crito's at the BJ's coming up on Thursday. Also,
I agreed to this before I knew that Phil Schuman
is a from Boston and a Patriots fan and is
wearing a Rams shirt currently despite the fact they lost
(00:51):
last night.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But due to egregious overtime rules that need to be changed.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We can get into that later. We will.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let's start right now with this massive fire exploded when
it started Thursday quickly took off. This thing had wheels.
Blake Trolley from KFI News is on it and joins us. Now, Blake,
what is the latest.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, so this fire is burned now more than twenty
thousand acres. That said, Cruz have been able to make
some progress on this fire. We're told this is in
the upper elevations of the fire. The fires right now
three percent surrounded, and again crews are crediting last night's
cooler temperatures, higher humidity, and the fact that they were
able to get some water drops down on this fire
with getting up to that three percent containment. Now, yesterday
(01:32):
we were told that Running Springs was really the community
of concern. The fire was moving towards that direction. And
while Running Springs is definitely not in the clear and
cruis are still stationed there today, crews have their eyes
on Forest Falls, So this is to the east of
Running Springs. We're told that that is the most impacted
community right now as far as where.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Firefighters have their eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That said, with this thunder activity that's happening in the area,
there have been months tunal thunderstorms in the mountains here
right now, it's really unpredictable where this fire will move.
And because of that, firefighters really are watching this fire
from all sides. From its entire perimeter because it's been
so unpredictable. Calf Battalion Chief Brent Pasqua says, Saturday was
(02:19):
a pretty treacherous day for fire crews on the ground.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
On Saturday, we had over three hundred lightning strikes. Luckily,
we had a little bit of rain so we didn't
get any new starts from those lightning strikes. But again,
very hazardous to firefighters.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, how close did this lightning get to people that
were on the ground trying to fight these fires?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Very close? It was very close, so he says, very close.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Now, miraculously none of these firefighters were struck by that lightning,
but again he said, it really was a close call
for those ground crews who are already in a really
dangerous situation with the terrain here. You know, this is
very steep country where this fire is burning. We're told
that some of the dry grass that this fire is
ripping through is two and a half feet tall. So
this is the kind of fuel and if you look
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at the incident reports, these are fast runs.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When this fire gets moving, Blake, it's phils human here.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So what's it like in terms of leaving coming down
the mountain? I mean there's not a lot of ways
in and out of there. Yeah, there's not a lot
of ways in and out of there.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And there's several mountain communities that right now are on
evacuation order, many more that are on evacuation warning, and
they're saying officials are saying, look, guys, it's better to
leave now than to wait, because as you say, there,
I mean, really, there's not that many, you know, ways
in and out of these mountains. There's really only two
main ways through if you look at where this fire
is burning. So crews right now are sorry, officials right
(03:39):
now are cautioning to people to get out as soon
as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I have heard some reports that some people were hesitant
to go, but I think since then, I've yet to
hear anything about, you know, people being too hesitant. It
sounds like people are getting out of the area. I
spoke with some people who live in the area and
they said that they had gotten.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Out as this thing eating up any homes yet or
are we still in just evacuation zone.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So there's more than thirty six thousand structures threatened shed
and miraculously, so far, none of those structures have been threatened.
But again, we have another really tough day ahead of us.
I mean, they're expecting hot, dry, windy weather. Right before
I got on with you guys, I had heard Brent
Pascua tell me that they were expecting more thunderstorms. So
I spoke with the National Weather Service and they said
that they are anticipating more thunderstorms today, more so in
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the higher regions kind of outside the fire zone. But
they said, nonetheless, these still could very well end up
landing in this twenty thousand acre fire perimeter. And what
fire officials are cautioning right now is that, Yeah, while
you know, maybe at night, this thing lays down, in
the afternoon, it picks up. You add that thunder, you
add that lightning to it, and it gets very unpredictable. Yeah,
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there's got to be nothing more terrifying than being a
home owner or a re renter or a resident and
you know, looking up at the mountains and seeing that
flame and smoke on the horizon and wondering.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
How fast it's to get there. The other issue was
the firefighters. You know, in all that gear with one
hundred degree temperatures, they can't really work the same hours
in intensity as they would under normal temperatures right, No.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I believe they're working a twelve on twelve off. There's
eighteen hundred fifty five firefighters on scene from across California,
some from out of state.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I came to this fire on Thursday, Phil and one
of the most interesting things I found, and I don't
know if this was it seemed to be coincidental, but
when we showed up, this fire broke out in Highland
and it was just north of a neighborhood there, and
at the time the situation was definitely less critical. The
fire at this time, I believe when I was there
was a few hundred acres.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, we were there in its very early.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Stages, and I actually saw fire crews from as far
as New Jersey that were already stationed here. So I
don't know if that was, you know, just by chance.
I've been actually trying to like get an answer on that.
But nonetheless, there were out of state cruise. It was
something me and the other reporters who were on scene
at the time we're talking about, was like, why are
the cruise from so far away out? Now we have
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officials confirming, you know that other crews from other states
are here, But why I do kind of wonder. One
thing I also want to touch on is I do
think this is a fire that officials knew was going
to spread as rapidly as it did when I was
there that same day.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This was last week.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
This fire had broken out maybe twelve thirteen hours. I
already had seen the command post start to be set up,
which seemed kind of like an excessive response given the
size of the fire at the time. But obviously they
had their crystal ball because here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, Unfortunately, every few years, this is the area that
is going to be hit with a massive fire, and
they do know that it takes off, which is why
they had all hands on deck right away. Blake Trolley,
thank you so much. We'll check back with you throughout
the show.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
First Monday Night Football game of the year kicks off tonight.
The forty nine Ers will host Aaron Rodgers and the
Jets there in Santa Clara. This is Rogers return from
his what four play last season rupture as achilles tendon
during Week one of Monday Night Football last year. So
kickoff tonight, five point fifteen. I'm looking forward to that one,
and I mean I'm overjoyed this morning because it's it's
(07:11):
victory Monday for me. I saw the Chargers win a
game for the first time and way too long. This
is a re energized team under Jim Harbaugh. The look,
the feel, the energy there was insane that one game.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, one game, no, no, you know we're going to
going to the super Bowl already.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I didn't say we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But you you have no idea what it's like to
have a five and twelve season with a lame duck
coach and a team that gives up, because that's what
last season was. And to cover a team that has
basically given up.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is really rough depress.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So yesterday it was exciting. Everyone has skin in the game,
everyone's all in on Jim Harbaugh. And yes, it is
one game, You're right, but it is. And there were
more Raiders fans there than Chargers. Well that's the way
it always is with Raiders have such a stronghold in LA.
But it would be the same for the Rams. Raiders.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
True, yeah, No, I'm excited. I think that I'm thrilled
if the Charges were for real.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, and I think they've got a good chance there's
a lot of missing pieces. But justin Herbert's somebody that
lifts people up to the occasion, you know when you
look at that wide receiver corps. But anyway, that's neither
here nor there. Let's talk about all the drunks. I mean,
and works at so fine. And she said in her
head said it was like, we need a Medicare we
need a medic there?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Someone's throwing up, someone's passed out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
People are dropping like flies because it was so hot
and humid, right, and everyone was just had so much
pent up NFL energy and week one people did not.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Know how to act. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's also fueled by non stop drinking, right, Oh, people
are wasted. Yeah, nothing makes you never want to drink again.
Then an elevator ride full of drunken NFL fans after
a game in the heat.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're they're hot, they're sweaty, they're.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Drunk, they're loud. It's all bad and you just you're
in that sounds like your crowd though usually but not
when I'm working a game. You know me so well already. No,
But I mean I'm in the elevator every time after
the games, and I'm just like, nope, I'm never drinking
again ever.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, that's how they make their money on the Fier.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But we'll get into all of that big debate coming up.
We were just talking about this off the air. I
don't know if it's just shows that I have no
life or that I'm a nerd, but I'm really looking
forward to this one and the vice presidential debate as well.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh. Absolutely, I'm totally looking forward to this.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I think it's going to be key for those who
and it's still shocking to me who they are, but
people who are still undecided, well, I think this is
going to make a difference for them.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think for the undecided, they've switched back and forth
a couple times, Like back to the assassination attempt, it
seemed like Trump had.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It lucked right. The momentum has swung back, and.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Then Harris had the best month of any politician in
the history of the world, and so people kind of
got on that vandwagon, and so now it's like, is
there a flip flop opportunity for both of these candidates.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean that's what a lot of the experts
and the political writers and New York Times and CNN.
I mean we're talking about. You know, she has to
define herself for voters, and he has to continue to
denigrate her and link her to Biden. I mean, there's
lots of different ways to look at it. Turn the
page on devisive, she says, turn the page on divisiveness,
he says, to negatively shape voters perceptions of the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I was talking to one of my Republican friends the
other day, and he said, if Trump could just stick
to inflation and the border and leave out crime and
crime and leave out all of the attibc, I'm better
looking than her, so dumb, I don't respect you the things.
What do you think the chances of that happening are? Well, yeah,
(10:51):
that's what they want, you know. I mean how many
people would that s It's called self control. Who hears
him attack her or her appearance or whatever and goes.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know what, that's my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What does he gain from that, right, other than the
disciples who are already you know, have drunk the kool aid?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's me to the base that's gonna follow
you wherever, right go.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right, So what he has to do is, which which
seems like a major accomplishment, is to be like normal
and nice.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And what she has to do is convince people that, yeah,
I know I was the vice president that nobody was
too impressed with a month ago, but I can handle China, Russia, Iraq, Iran,
Ukraine and the whole big picture that goes along with,
you know, being the president.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Not to sound sexist, but she needs to overcome the
Sarah Palin, I see Russia from my front windows situation.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You need to show us.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Your math when it comes to international intelligence and knowledge
and things like that and policy. They just within the
past few days put up the policy.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right, the issues the on that IRIS website we talked
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Here's the thing. It depends on how you look at it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Some people want policy details and their position on taxes,
on immigration, on abortion do some Some people want the
details and vote based on that. Other people vote because
they like the person a feeling. And so that to me,
like if I was if I was David Muir or
Lindsay Davis, which we would love to do that, right,
(12:22):
that would be the dream job to moderating debate.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I would say that President Form President Trump, tell me.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
About your relationship with your wife, tell me about your kids,
and I would ask the same thing with Harris, and
you'd get much different answers and much different feeling. Right, Yah,
you'd get a picture of the person. I mean, was
the last time that you saw Trump with Milania? Besides never?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I can answer that question. I don't think there's much
of a relationship there. I mean, when's the last time contractual? Yeah,
come on, I'm just saying would. I wouldn't want that
kind of insight into their personalities that maybe we wouldn't hurt.
We've heard Trump, you know, with his two or three points,
and we understand where Kamala is coming from, but I
want some insight into their personalities. You make an excellent
(13:05):
point in the fact that a lot of times with politicians,
they don't come across as human, and when they do,
it is so ingratiating. Tim Walls comes across as human,
even if it's the.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Coach stick or whatever. You're like, Hey, I like that guy.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now, if Trump came out it, just imagine this and
was not Trump and killed her with kindness and was respectful.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's Kamala Harris's worst scenario.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
He did about one minute of it at the speech
in the r n C after the assassination attempt, remember,
and then he went right back.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
To his normal true. All right, coming.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Aching, we're going to be watching, and then we'll obviously
have plenty to talk about on Wednesday morning, right right.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Yeah, we can continue with this because they are
they are preparing very differently. Yeah, we need to get
into Trump and Harris. We'll talk about that before we
get to the family from Hell. You know, I didn't
eat anything yesterday because I was at so Far covering
the Chargers on the sideline and in the greenhouse that
is Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It was.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oppressive. The heat was awful. It was at least triple
digits on the field, the humidity there from the roof
and no breeze to be had, and just sweating and
just sitting in your sweat, and you just don't you
just don't want to eat, You can't eat, and you're
just pounding gatorade. How did the players stay safe? They
just have to hydrate. They just got a hydrate. I mean,
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you could tell by the end of the game. You
know they're winded, because in the preseason exactly exactly, it's
the first week. I mean, you could tell they were
winded in the first half remembering.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Okay, this is what it's like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
This is you know, they came off the field and
they're they're winded, but then kind of got used to it,
got in the groove as the game went on. But
I was going to get a cup of noodles because
that sounded I don't know good this morning, but all
I had was Whole Foods and they don't have cup
of noodles there. They also don't sell diet coke. This
is a vegan rawm and chicken flat cut a noodle
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want to be and it's awful. It's the most awful
ramen experience I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
This is what you're eating, instant ramen from Whole Foods
across the street.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's the time of year when I don't make great dietary.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Husband, can he help you out? You're supporting the family.
You know he could pack you at lunch.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Anyway. I know what you mean, though.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's so exciting that you cover the Chargers game. You know,
my dream job, not that you asked me. If you said,
what could you do if you had your choice of
any job in the world pro football place in a second?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In a second, what position I would be a linebacker.
You would not be a linebacker. No, you you give
me in my dreams, I'm saying, you give me more
wide receiver, no cornerback.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Vine. No, you have to be fast to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Oh, I see you. So you just want to hit
people in the face.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, that would be the dream. And that's what's so.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Football is unlike any other sport, and it's you know
this because you you're there. It's team building. It's like
analogous to the military.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You going to war.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yes, it's hard, it's smart, it's challenging, it's fun. I mean,
there's nothing like being on a team. And I say
to people that don't follow sports, I feel like they're
missing something. Yeah, you know you don't have a team
to follow. Well I watched The Bachelor. I'm not sure
that's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, it's the play for each other. You're absolutely right.
There are some military analogies you could use. Told this
story yesterday on the air about Jim Harbaugh. Of course,
a history of being able to turn around teams quicker
than anybody anticipates and being able to do He did
it at Stanford, he did it with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He did it in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And there's this story that goes back to his Stanford
coaching days, and he said to the team in one
of the early games there, he said, if you bleed
during the game, you're bleeding for your teammates, and then
said this quote, I want to see your blood. It
was the first half when of the o linemen gets injured,
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he gets a gash on it. Oh boy, he goes
to the sideline to get it cleaned up. Harbaugh reaches out,
takes his hand, wipes the blood off this kid's arm
and wipes it on his own face. I mean, that's
the kind of war that exists.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And see, let me make let me let me make
a connection here. And you might think this is too
big of a reach, but I don't think so so
because in the bridge before the break, we're talking about
the debate and the presidential candidates. So we're talking about
it's leadership, it's inspiration, it's getting someone fired up.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's the qualities that make a great football coach.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Whether it's Harball, whether it's Sean McVay, whether it's Belichick
in his own way. You can use that same thing
in other sports too, but it's more dramatic in football.
That's what you want in a president, right, someone who
inspires you, who gets you motivated well.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And that's why Trump's people love him so much as
he's the Bobby Knight, right, He's the guy that throws
the chair across the hardwood and they love that. And
that's why Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls, whoever has architect of
this I want to watch this movie because when we're
at the DNC and we said, who's the architect of
this movie that we're watching this perfectly scripted, choreographed routine
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that's been the last month of this of this campaign,
and the people that we talked to, Oh, it's Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The buck stops with her. She's the one.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm like, no, she's not, No, she's not. She is
not the architect of this movie.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I want to know there's like a Steven Spielberg behind
the scenes that you need to identit.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, which who doesn't get the credit, But I know
what you mean.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And there's also this two ways of looking at it
again though, like do I need to like my president
or do I just want someone that can get the
job done and their personal life is their personal life. Yeah,
and that seems to be a lot of people's feeling
about Trump. Yes, right, and where it was Harris. If
you don't like Harris Is personally and Waltz, something's probably
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wrong with you because they seem like delightful people. So
there's a real choice here going forward, not just in policy,
but in personality. And that's why tomorrow is going to
be so fascinating because, like you said earlier, when Trump
comes out and just insults her, what does he gain
from that?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who does he gain? And we talked about undecided voters.
Who's still undecided?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And what would she app the microphone app if you
click on yeah, the talk the talkback feature on the
iHeartRadio app. Right, And like, here's here's what I would
love for people to let us know. What if you're
still undecided?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Why?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Which is mind boggling to me at this point. And
then let's say you were in the chair of the
moderator David muiror and Lindsay Davis. Maybe what would you
ask either one of them like that you think is
an interesting or different or unique question.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I liked your question of tell me about your relationship
with your spouse or whatever. What do you guys do?
What do you what do you do on a on
a you have a free Friday night? What are you
going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I think that would be interesting because they give you
some insight that we haven't gotten previously. I mean, we've
I heard the love story of Kamala and Yug and Docky.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You know, did you read that article? I sent it
this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It was in Politico and it was how they are
they're framing this like an eighty sitcom, the Harris Walls
relationship and the campaign, and they we'll get into it
and swamp watch because it was a really well written
article about why we have this feel good feeling going
on with this campaign and it's absolutely by design. It
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is all strategy. I also wanted to mention this. There
is a new Sienna College New York Times poll, and
I don't pay attention to poles. Actually Vegas shows Trump
winning by a landslide in November.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But they're just trying to move the line.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Maybe yeah, but this poll is the most funded, the
best funded. I guess I should say pole that exists.
And so the New College New York Times poll shows
the race in a dead heat.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, I mean that's a lot of the poles is
showing that. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's like, you know, they haven't even they haven't done
anything really, Harrison Walls. I mean, we know what Trump's
body of work is, we know where he stands. We
don't really know that much about what that would look
like with a Harris Wall's presidency because of the movie
production that we've all been watching and the optics of that.
It's kind of like yesterday when Justin Herbert only had
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seventy three yards and we only had sixteen rushing and
we were still only behind by one point. You know,
it's that kind of a thing, like you haven't done
anything yet and you're still in a dead heat, and
that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, how is it because you haven't done anything?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, I mean, it's not that far off from what
it was when Biden was still the candidate. And then
Harrison picked up some momentum from the from the DNC
that she's still trying to maintain.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, she pulls much better than Biden did when it
comes to a showdown with She's picked up a lot
of voters that Biden was struggling with, the Latino voting block.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The younger voting block.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, and so so that's she's been able to make
up some ground there, but he's made up ground too.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And you just got to have to follow the money.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
The amount of money being thrown into this campaign on
either side is incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, and with it so close, that's why things like
the debate are so important.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Now, some historically you talk to academics and debates don't
really matter. It's like, oh, really, what happened in the
Biden Trump debate. That was pretty much the end of
the Biden candidacy. So debates definitely matter. But uh, and
these polls, you know, you have to look at who there,
who they're questioning. Is it registered voters, is it likely voters,
is it you know everyone? Yeah, and then obviously the
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margin of errors, it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Actually only comes down to a couple of states and
the undecideds in those states.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So the debate will be tomorrow in Philadelphia. Kamala has
been there studying for days. Trump is going to wing it.
That's just those two personalities, right, and it's going to
come across just like that. It'll be ninety minutes hosted
by ABC, starts at six hour time. It will also
stream if you're a streamer on Disney Plus and Hulu.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Big Lots. You ever go to a Big Lots I
have in my life. Yeah. I think they're will close,
aren't they?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, they're filing for bankruptcy. About a month after it
announced it would be closing hundreds of stores, they said
in a.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Statement, I'm not proud of it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
High inflation and interest rates have hurt customer spending. As
long as you're not buying like your underwear there or something.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, no, you know what's hurt these stores starts with
an A rhymes with the sham Amazon.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, oh wow, unbelievable. Yeah, just in my own life.
How many times do I actually go to a physical
store anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right? Not not unless you have to just the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What about clothes I buy off Instagram straight from China?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Seriously a lot of the time. Well you have like
a perfect size too or what? You don't have to
try on clothes?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No I do? I send them back? Yeah you can
do that? Yeah, uh so yeah, Big Lots you know that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Speaking of underwear at a discount store, you know, John
Cobalt buys his underwear and bulk a.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Place in Lake arrowhead. Why would you know that?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I know, I don't know why I know that. I mean,
I've worked on the show for a number of years.
I heard a lot of things that is that is
inside information. See TV people, you're more buttoned up. You're
all polite with each other, at least that's how it
looks on the outside. Everyone's smiling, everyone looks great. You're
(24:31):
all dressed to perfection. Here we do things a little differently,
and we know where we buy our underwear from. You know,
we see we're in a room for so many hours.
There there's smells, there's there's things that happen.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Welcome, welcome, all right, all right, this family is awful.
This of course, we're talking about the school shooter, right
and over the weekend I started reading about this. Of course,
the news was last week when you were here. I
was not here. You were here last week.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Right now, Marla and Garrett. I thought the afternoon that
was the week that was Monday.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh okay, so this was the school shooter that took
out four people in the in the high school in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
My computer has frozen.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, So then we come to find out about the
gun that the father bought him, and then we come
to find out over the weekend the mother phoned the
school because she got this disturbing text from her son,
Yeah it sad, and warned them, but they didn't intervene
in time.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
They said it was cryptic, but I think it said
something like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She saw that and
knew that her kid was going to open fire. This
was a kid who was questioned last year after making
threats on on social media. On Discord I believe was
the app he was using.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Again the downside of social media on the Internet, but.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Also the upside of waving the red flag and somebody
seeing it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And so he is questioned but not taking action.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But not taking action, the father is told that his
son is under investigation for threats, yet despite that, buys
him in Ar fifteen as a gift, just months after
the kid is questioned.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So there were so many failures on so many levels.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yes, and then the reaction to it once again, I mean,
how many of these have we reported on?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Too many, We've covered them.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's like hard in the schools, one hundred percent wrong response.
Soften the schools find out these kids that are that
are waiting to explode and get them.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Help right when they need it. I saw that how
hard is that that you sent?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And I thought, wow, that's such an interesting conversation because
usually the conversation is what is the security in the school?
Is there an officer at the front, is there an
officer in the hallways? Are we going to arm the
teachers with guns? Teachers that don't want to have guns?
All of this hardening talk, right, but what about getting
in there and having mental health treat for kids when
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they are showing signs of going that they're going to
need it. This is the age group where you really
want to get in there. And just if this kid
has no one to talk to in his private life,
having somebody to talk to anywhere would go along.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
One hundred per And school officials and leaders and teachers
know that. But it's a question of where you spend
your money. Do we hire do we hire more police officers?
Do we hire more counselors? Because there's no way to
make a school impregnable. Well, they're not banks, they're not fortresses,
they're schools.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And wouldn't it be nice to get in there when
these kids are in middle school and and and remove
the stigma. I mean, we're seeing kids with more psychological
problems now than ever before. At least they're showing their
signs and the kids are reporting it.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To get in there and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Start exposing these kids to hey, there is help, it's
it's okay, remove the stigma of anything, because who knows
what the parents are saying. Like in this case, this
teenager's grandfather says that the kid was driven by his
father to do what he did. He called for the
father to face the death penalty. Now dad has been
charged in relation to the killings. He admitted to authorities
(28:15):
that he bought the weapon used in the attack. The
mother on this side of the family tree has a
criminal record dating back to two thousand and seven. She
spent time in jail as recently as this passed April.
She's been banned from contacting the teenager without a third
party intermediary. She has a record across four Georgia County's
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drug use, domestic violence, property damage fraud.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it's not a pretty picture, but then the question is,
you know, was was anybody watching this young man? This
was a new school, different from the one that he
was attending. When they had when he was interviewed by
the FBI a year ago. So you'd think that there'd
be some type of tracking where there's a way to
you know, this kid when he's school because school just
(29:02):
started the day before.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I heard from a FBI spokesperson over the weekend and
she said, just because the FBI reached out once and
investigated this father son duo, doesn't mean that we continually
monitor them, right to which I say, well, there's got
to be.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
A happy medium.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The FBI can't keep tabs on everybody that it investigates
at every point, but there's got to be especially when
there's a kid involved in high school and they're going
through all of the prefrontal cortex development and figuring out
like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, and all schools have that to some degree now,
like the LAUSD for example, which is what's five hundred
thousand students, the nation's second largest. They have a very
formalized crisis Counseling and intervention service program where they try
to do just that, identify troubled kids, kids with the
potential problems, kids who have made threats, kids who are bullied,
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which is all of what happened with this kid in
Georgia and try to intervene. But that's not their primary job,
right The primary job is education. So it's not an
easy problem to resolve, as we've seen over and over
and over again. But when then you hear somebody like
jd Vance's response is way up to harden the schools,
it just seems like just a rote response that really
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isn't based on any unrealistic plan.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
As jd Vance said, anything that has helped him, I
haven't paid it, end to.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Look for it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I haven't really paid attention. It was so nice being
on vacation last week. By the way, I've never been
to Mammoth. I've lived here for what nineteen years, never
had been. I'd heard people say they go up there
all the time, and I always said, like, oh, it's
a five hour drive.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I don't know, it's five hours. What did you do?
And it was gorgeous. I mean, I can't wait to
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Voting, boating, kayaking, boating, went on a hike.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I did realize though, that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Hiking at high elevation and then choosing a hike where
you gain an other thousand feet probably not a great
idea when you haven't been acclimated to the high elevation.
I took this hike maybe less than twelve hours before
or after we got there, and I'm like halfway up
this this breathing hard, and I started getting dizzy and
(31:16):
I'm feeling a little nauseous, and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I didn't want to drink. You didn't have the ramen
with you. I didn't listen football season. All bets are off, Okay,
I don't have time the meal playing.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
There are so many great things to do right here
in California, right and we never do any of them.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I also hadn't been to Big Serve before. I went
there earlier this year, but it was great, and Mammoth
Lakes and all the different lakes and I want to
go see that one. I want to go see that
one and just beautiful. And the people up there are
so nice as well.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
There's so many different parts of California.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You think of people outside of California think of LA
and that's it, right, Yeah, maybe San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And those are like the two worst places right now.
Well what you're looking for, but you got to get
out there. Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco or Gavenus well
they both, Yeah, yeah, all right. You know what I
found too at the DNC. We talked about it a
little bit on the show when we got back is
democrats don't love Gavin News. The Democrats in power are
(32:15):
not fans of Gavenue.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, you know, he's on the road today and tomorrow
he's going to end up in Pennsylvania. He's probably going
to be one of those surrogates in the spin room
after the debate, okay, supporting her So yeah, fakely his
star has kind of risen and fallen quickly in the
past year, but I wouldn't count him out.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
That hit that thing right there there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
He started on KNBC when you were in kindergarten and
then I've been on Fox Leve about fifteen years or so. Yeah,
it's been great and I remember seeing you out in
the field back in the day. That was fun, toting
that microphone and the old fashioned tape recorder.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's great to be here with you. I'm looking forward
to it. Good, good, good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So Phil Schuman in for Gary for a couple of
days again. We will be out at Crito's in BJ
or in Crito's at the BJ's coming up on Thursday. Also,
I agreed to this before I knew that Phil Schuman
is a from Boston and a Patriots fan and is
wearing a Rams shirt currently despite the fact they lost
(00:51):
last night.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But due to egregious overtime rules that need to be changed.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We can get into that later. We will.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let's start right now with this massive fire exploded when
it started Thursday quickly took off. This thing had wheels.
Blake Trolley from KFI News is on it and joins us. Now, Blake,
what is the latest.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, so this fire is burned now more than twenty
thousand acres. That said, Cruz have been able to make
some progress on this fire. We're told this is in
the upper elevations of the fire. The fires right now
three percent surrounded, and again crews are crediting last night's
cooler temperatures, higher humidity, and the fact that they were
able to get some water drops down on this fire
with getting up to that three percent containment. Now, yesterday
(01:32):
we were told that Running Springs was really the community
of concern. The fire was moving towards that direction. And
while Running Springs is definitely not in the clear and
cruis are still stationed there today, crews have their eyes
on Forest Falls, So this is to the east of
Running Springs. We're told that that is the most impacted
community right now as far as where.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Firefighters have their eyes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
That said, with this thunder activity that's happening in the area,
there have been months tunal thunderstorms in the mountains here
right now, it's really unpredictable where this fire will move.
And because of that, firefighters really are watching this fire
from all sides. From its entire perimeter because it's been
so unpredictable. Calf Battalion Chief Brent Pasqua says, Saturday was
(02:19):
a pretty treacherous day for fire crews on the ground.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
On Saturday, we had over three hundred lightning strikes. Luckily,
we had a little bit of rain so we didn't
get any new starts from those lightning strikes. But again,
very hazardous to firefighters.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, how close did this lightning get to people that
were on the ground trying to fight these fires?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Very close? It was very close, so he says, very close.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Now, miraculously none of these firefighters were struck by that lightning,
but again he said, it really was a close call
for those ground crews who are already in a really
dangerous situation with the terrain here. You know, this is
very steep country where this fire is burning. We're told
that some of the dry grass that this fire is
ripping through is two and a half feet tall. So
this is the kind of fuel and if you look
(03:03):
at the incident reports, these are fast runs.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When this fire gets moving, Blake, it's phils human here.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So what's it like in terms of leaving coming down
the mountain? I mean there's not a lot of ways
in and out of there. Yeah, there's not a lot
of ways in and out of there.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And there's several mountain communities that right now are on
evacuation order, many more that are on evacuation warning, and
they're saying officials are saying, look, guys, it's better to
leave now than to wait, because as you say, there,
I mean, really, there's not that many, you know, ways
in and out of these mountains. There's really only two
main ways through if you look at where this fire
is burning. So crews right now are sorry, officials right
(03:39):
now are cautioning to people to get out as soon
as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I have heard some reports that some people were hesitant
to go, but I think since then, I've yet to
hear anything about, you know, people being too hesitant. It
sounds like people are getting out of the area. I
spoke with some people who live in the area and
they said that they had gotten.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Out as this thing eating up any homes yet or
are we still in just evacuation zone.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So there's more than thirty six thousand structures threatened shed
and miraculously, so far, none of those structures have been threatened.
But again, we have another really tough day ahead of us.
I mean, they're expecting hot, dry, windy weather. Right before
I got on with you guys, I had heard Brent
Pascua tell me that they were expecting more thunderstorms. So
I spoke with the National Weather Service and they said
that they are anticipating more thunderstorms today, more so in
(04:28):
the higher regions kind of outside the fire zone. But
they said, nonetheless, these still could very well end up
landing in this twenty thousand acre fire perimeter. And what
fire officials are cautioning right now is that, Yeah, while
you know, maybe at night, this thing lays down, in
the afternoon, it picks up. You add that thunder, you
add that lightning to it, and it gets very unpredictable. Yeah,
(04:50):
there's got to be nothing more terrifying than being a
home owner or a re renter or a resident and
you know, looking up at the mountains and seeing that
flame and smoke on the horizon and wondering.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
How fast it's to get there. The other issue was
the firefighters. You know, in all that gear with one
hundred degree temperatures, they can't really work the same hours
in intensity as they would under normal temperatures right, No.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I believe they're working a twelve on twelve off. There's
eighteen hundred fifty five firefighters on scene from across California,
some from out of state.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I came to this fire on Thursday, Phil and one
of the most interesting things I found, and I don't
know if this was it seemed to be coincidental, but
when we showed up, this fire broke out in Highland
and it was just north of a neighborhood there, and
at the time the situation was definitely less critical. The
fire at this time, I believe when I was there
was a few hundred acres.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, we were there in its very early.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Stages, and I actually saw fire crews from as far
as New Jersey that were already stationed here. So I
don't know if that was, you know, just by chance.
I've been actually trying to like get an answer on that.
But nonetheless, there were out of state cruise. It was
something me and the other reporters who were on scene
at the time we're talking about, was like, why are
the cruise from so far away out? Now we have
(06:02):
officials confirming, you know that other crews from other states
are here, But why I do kind of wonder. One
thing I also want to touch on is I do
think this is a fire that officials knew was going
to spread as rapidly as it did when I was
there that same day.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This was last week.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
This fire had broken out maybe twelve thirteen hours. I
already had seen the command post start to be set up,
which seemed kind of like an excessive response given the
size of the fire at the time. But obviously they
had their crystal ball because here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, Unfortunately, every few years, this is the area that
is going to be hit with a massive fire, and
they do know that it takes off, which is why
they had all hands on deck right away. Blake Trolley,
thank you so much. We'll check back with you throughout
the show.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
First Monday Night Football game of the year kicks off tonight.
The forty nine Ers will host Aaron Rodgers and the
Jets there in Santa Clara. This is Rogers return from
his what four play last season rupture as achilles tendon
during Week one of Monday Night Football last year. So
kickoff tonight, five point fifteen. I'm looking forward to that one,
and I mean I'm overjoyed this morning because it's it's
(07:11):
victory Monday for me. I saw the Chargers win a
game for the first time and way too long. This
is a re energized team under Jim Harbaugh. The look,
the feel, the energy there was insane that one game.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, one game, no, no, you know we're going to
going to the super Bowl already.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I didn't say we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But you you have no idea what it's like to
have a five and twelve season with a lame duck
coach and a team that gives up, because that's what
last season was. And to cover a team that has
basically given up.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is really rough depress.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So yesterday it was exciting. Everyone has skin in the game,
everyone's all in on Jim Harbaugh. And yes, it is
one game, You're right, but it is. And there were
more Raiders fans there than Chargers. Well that's the way
it always is with Raiders have such a stronghold in LA.
But it would be the same for the Rams. Raiders.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
True, yeah, No, I'm excited. I think that I'm thrilled
if the Charges were for real.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, and I think they've got a good chance there's
a lot of missing pieces. But justin Herbert's somebody that
lifts people up to the occasion, you know when you
look at that wide receiver corps. But anyway, that's neither
here nor there. Let's talk about all the drunks. I mean,
and works at so fine. And she said in her
head said it was like, we need a Medicare we
need a medic there?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Someone's throwing up, someone's passed out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
People are dropping like flies because it was so hot
and humid, right, and everyone was just had so much
pent up NFL energy and week one people did not.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Know how to act. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's also fueled by non stop drinking, right, Oh, people
are wasted. Yeah, nothing makes you never want to drink again.
Then an elevator ride full of drunken NFL fans after
a game in the heat.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're they're hot, they're sweaty, they're.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Drunk, they're loud. It's all bad and you just you're
in that sounds like your crowd though usually but not
when I'm working a game. You know me so well already. No,
But I mean I'm in the elevator every time after
the games, and I'm just like, nope, I'm never drinking
again ever.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, that's how they make their money on the Fier.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But we'll get into all of that big debate coming up.
We were just talking about this off the air. I
don't know if it's just shows that I have no
life or that I'm a nerd, but I'm really looking
forward to this one and the vice presidential debate as well.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh. Absolutely, I'm totally looking forward to this.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I think it's going to be key for those who
and it's still shocking to me who they are, but
people who are still undecided, well, I think this is
going to make a difference for them.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I think for the undecided, they've switched back and forth
a couple times, Like back to the assassination attempt, it
seemed like Trump had.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It lucked right. The momentum has swung back, and.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Then Harris had the best month of any politician in
the history of the world, and so people kind of
got on that vandwagon, and so now it's like, is
there a flip flop opportunity for both of these candidates.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean that's what a lot of the experts
and the political writers and New York Times and CNN.
I mean we're talking about. You know, she has to
define herself for voters, and he has to continue to
denigrate her and link her to Biden. I mean, there's
lots of different ways to look at it. Turn the
page on devisive, she says, turn the page on divisiveness,
he says, to negatively shape voters perceptions of the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I was talking to one of my Republican friends the
other day, and he said, if Trump could just stick
to inflation and the border and leave out crime and
crime and leave out all of the attibc, I'm better
looking than her, so dumb, I don't respect you the things.
What do you think the chances of that happening are? Well, yeah,
(10:51):
that's what they want, you know. I mean how many
people would that s It's called self control. Who hears
him attack her or her appearance or whatever and goes.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know what, that's my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What does he gain from that, right, other than the
disciples who are already you know, have drunk the kool aid?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's me to the base that's gonna follow
you wherever, right go.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right, So what he has to do is, which which
seems like a major accomplishment, is to be like normal
and nice.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And what she has to do is convince people that, yeah,
I know I was the vice president that nobody was
too impressed with a month ago, but I can handle China, Russia, Iraq, Iran,
Ukraine and the whole big picture that goes along with,
you know, being the president.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Not to sound sexist, but she needs to overcome the
Sarah Palin, I see Russia from my front windows situation.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You need to show us.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Your math when it comes to international intelligence and knowledge
and things like that and policy. They just within the
past few days put up the policy.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right, the issues the on that IRIS website we talked
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Here's the thing. It depends on how you look at it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Some people want policy details and their position on taxes,
on immigration, on abortion do some Some people want the
details and vote based on that. Other people vote because
they like the person a feeling. And so that to me,
like if I was if I was David Muir or
Lindsay Davis, which we would love to do that, right,
(12:22):
that would be the dream job to moderating debate.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I would say that President Form President Trump, tell me.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
About your relationship with your wife, tell me about your kids,
and I would ask the same thing with Harris, and
you'd get much different answers and much different feeling. Right, Yah,
you'd get a picture of the person. I mean, was
the last time that you saw Trump with Milania? Besides never?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I can answer that question. I don't think there's much
of a relationship there. I mean, when's the last time contractual? Yeah,
come on, I'm just saying would. I wouldn't want that
kind of insight into their personalities that maybe we wouldn't hurt.
We've heard Trump, you know, with his two or three points,
and we understand where Kamala is coming from, but I
want some insight into their personalities. You make an excellent
(13:05):
point in the fact that a lot of times with politicians,
they don't come across as human, and when they do,
it is so ingratiating. Tim Walls comes across as human,
even if it's the.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Coach stick or whatever. You're like, Hey, I like that guy.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now, if Trump came out it, just imagine this and
was not Trump and killed her with kindness and was respectful.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's Kamala Harris's worst scenario.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
He did about one minute of it at the speech
in the r n C after the assassination attempt, remember,
and then he went right back.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
To his normal true. All right, coming.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Aching, we're going to be watching, and then we'll obviously
have plenty to talk about on Wednesday morning, right right.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Yeah, we can continue with this because they are
they are preparing very differently. Yeah, we need to get
into Trump and Harris. We'll talk about that before we
get to the family from Hell. You know, I didn't
eat anything yesterday because I was at so Far covering
the Chargers on the sideline and in the greenhouse that
is Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It was.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Oppressive. The heat was awful. It was at least triple
digits on the field, the humidity there from the roof
and no breeze to be had, and just sweating and
just sitting in your sweat, and you just don't you
just don't want to eat, You can't eat, and you're
just pounding gatorade. How did the players stay safe? They
just have to hydrate. They just got a hydrate. I mean,
(14:27):
you could tell by the end of the game. You
know they're winded, because in the preseason exactly exactly, it's
the first week. I mean, you could tell they were
winded in the first half remembering.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Okay, this is what it's like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
This is you know, they came off the field and
they're they're winded, but then kind of got used to it,
got in the groove as the game went on. But
I was going to get a cup of noodles because
that sounded I don't know good this morning, but all
I had was Whole Foods and they don't have cup
of noodles there. They also don't sell diet coke. This
is a vegan rawm and chicken flat cut a noodle
(15:01):
want to be and it's awful. It's the most awful
ramen experience I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
This is what you're eating, instant ramen from Whole Foods
across the street.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's the time of year when I don't make great dietary.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Husband, can he help you out? You're supporting the family.
You know he could pack you at lunch.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Anyway. I know what you mean, though.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's so exciting that you cover the Chargers game. You know,
my dream job, not that you asked me. If you said,
what could you do if you had your choice of
any job in the world pro football place in a second?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
In a second, what position I would be a linebacker.
You would not be a linebacker. No, you you give
me in my dreams, I'm saying, you give me more
wide receiver, no cornerback.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Vine. No, you have to be fast to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Oh, I see you. So you just want to hit
people in the face.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, that would be the dream. And that's what's so.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Football is unlike any other sport, and it's you know
this because you you're there. It's team building. It's like
analogous to the military.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You going to war.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yes, it's hard, it's smart, it's challenging, it's fun. I mean,
there's nothing like being on a team. And I say
to people that don't follow sports, I feel like they're
missing something. Yeah, you know you don't have a team
to follow. Well I watched The Bachelor. I'm not sure
that's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
No, it's the play for each other. You're absolutely right.
There are some military analogies you could use. Told this
story yesterday on the air about Jim Harbaugh. Of course,
a history of being able to turn around teams quicker
than anybody anticipates and being able to do He did
it at Stanford, he did it with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
He did it in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And there's this story that goes back to his Stanford
coaching days, and he said to the team in one
of the early games there, he said, if you bleed
during the game, you're bleeding for your teammates, and then
said this quote, I want to see your blood. It
was the first half when of the o linemen gets injured,
(17:04):
he gets a gash on it. Oh boy, he goes
to the sideline to get it cleaned up. Harbaugh reaches out,
takes his hand, wipes the blood off this kid's arm
and wipes it on his own face. I mean, that's
the kind of war that exists.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And see, let me make let me let me make
a connection here. And you might think this is too
big of a reach, but I don't think so so
because in the bridge before the break, we're talking about
the debate and the presidential candidates. So we're talking about
it's leadership, it's inspiration, it's getting someone fired up.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's the qualities that make a great football coach.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Whether it's Harball, whether it's Sean McVay, whether it's Belichick
in his own way. You can use that same thing
in other sports too, but it's more dramatic in football.
That's what you want in a president, right, someone who
inspires you, who gets you motivated well.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And that's why Trump's people love him so much as
he's the Bobby Knight, right, He's the guy that throws
the chair across the hardwood and they love that. And
that's why Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls, whoever has architect of
this I want to watch this movie because when we're
at the DNC and we said, who's the architect of
this movie that we're watching this perfectly scripted, choreographed routine
(18:16):
that's been the last month of this of this campaign,
and the people that we talked to, Oh, it's Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The buck stops with her. She's the one.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm like, no, she's not, No, she's not. She is
not the architect of this movie.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I want to know there's like a Steven Spielberg behind
the scenes that you need to identit.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, which who doesn't get the credit, But I know
what you mean.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And there's also this two ways of looking at it
again though, like do I need to like my president
or do I just want someone that can get the
job done and their personal life is their personal life. Yeah,
and that seems to be a lot of people's feeling
about Trump. Yes, right, and where it was Harris. If
you don't like Harris Is personally and Waltz, something's probably
(18:56):
wrong with you because they seem like delightful people. So
there's a real choice here going forward, not just in policy,
but in personality. And that's why tomorrow is going to
be so fascinating because, like you said earlier, when Trump
comes out and just insults her, what does he gain
from that?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who does he gain? And we talked about undecided voters.
Who's still undecided?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And what would she app the microphone app if you
click on yeah, the talk the talkback feature on the
iHeartRadio app. Right, And like, here's here's what I would
love for people to let us know. What if you're
still undecided?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Why?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Which is mind boggling to me at this point. And
then let's say you were in the chair of the
moderator David muiror and Lindsay Davis. Maybe what would you
ask either one of them like that you think is
an interesting or different or unique question.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I liked your question of tell me about your relationship
with your spouse or whatever. What do you guys do?
What do you what do you do on a on
a you have a free Friday night? What are you
going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I think that would be interesting because they give you
some insight that we haven't gotten previously. I mean, we've
I heard the love story of Kamala and Yug and Docky.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You know, did you read that article? I sent it
this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It was in Politico and it was how they are
they're framing this like an eighty sitcom, the Harris Walls
relationship and the campaign, and they we'll get into it
and swamp watch because it was a really well written
article about why we have this feel good feeling going
on with this campaign and it's absolutely by design. It
(20:31):
is all strategy. I also wanted to mention this. There
is a new Sienna College New York Times poll, and
I don't pay attention to poles. Actually Vegas shows Trump
winning by a landslide in November.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But they're just trying to move the line.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Maybe yeah, but this poll is the most funded, the
best funded. I guess I should say pole that exists.
And so the New College New York Times poll shows
the race in a dead heat.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, I mean that's a lot of the poles is
showing that. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's like, you know, they haven't even they haven't done
anything really, Harrison Walls. I mean, we know what Trump's
body of work is, we know where he stands. We
don't really know that much about what that would look
like with a Harris Wall's presidency because of the movie
production that we've all been watching and the optics of that.
It's kind of like yesterday when Justin Herbert only had
(21:30):
seventy three yards and we only had sixteen rushing and
we were still only behind by one point. You know,
it's that kind of a thing, like you haven't done
anything yet and you're still in a dead heat, and
that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, how is it because you haven't done anything?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, I mean, it's not that far off from what
it was when Biden was still the candidate. And then
Harrison picked up some momentum from the from the DNC
that she's still trying to maintain.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, she pulls much better than Biden did when it
comes to a showdown with She's picked up a lot
of voters that Biden was struggling with, the Latino voting block.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The younger voting block.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, and so so that's she's been able to make
up some ground there, but he's made up ground too.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And you just got to have to follow the money.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
The amount of money being thrown into this campaign on
either side is incredible.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, and with it so close, that's why things like
the debate are so important.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Now, some historically you talk to academics and debates don't
really matter. It's like, oh, really, what happened in the
Biden Trump debate. That was pretty much the end of
the Biden candidacy. So debates definitely matter. But uh, and
these polls, you know, you have to look at who there,
who they're questioning. Is it registered voters, is it likely voters,
is it you know everyone? Yeah, and then obviously the
(22:43):
margin of errors, it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Actually only comes down to a couple of states and
the undecideds in those states.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So the debate will be tomorrow in Philadelphia. Kamala has
been there studying for days. Trump is going to wing it.
That's just those two personalities, right, and it's going to
come across just like that. It'll be ninety minutes hosted
by ABC, starts at six hour time. It will also
stream if you're a streamer on Disney Plus and Hulu.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Big Lots. You ever go to a Big Lots I
have in my life. Yeah. I think they're will close,
aren't they?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, they're filing for bankruptcy. About a month after it
announced it would be closing hundreds of stores, they said
in a.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Statement, I'm not proud of it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
High inflation and interest rates have hurt customer spending. As
long as you're not buying like your underwear there or something.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well, no, you know what's hurt these stores starts with
an A rhymes with the sham Amazon.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, oh wow, unbelievable. Yeah, just in my own life.
How many times do I actually go to a physical
store anymore?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right? Not not unless you have to just the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What about clothes I buy off Instagram straight from China?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Seriously a lot of the time. Well you have like
a perfect size too or what? You don't have to
try on clothes?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
No I do? I send them back? Yeah you can
do that? Yeah, uh so yeah, Big Lots you know that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Speaking of underwear at a discount store, you know, John
Cobalt buys his underwear and bulk a.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Place in Lake arrowhead. Why would you know that?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I know, I don't know why I know that. I mean,
I've worked on the show for a number of years.
I heard a lot of things that is that is
inside information. See TV people, you're more buttoned up. You're
all polite with each other, at least that's how it
looks on the outside. Everyone's smiling, everyone looks great. You're
(24:31):
all dressed to perfection. Here we do things a little differently,
and we know where we buy our underwear from. You know,
we see we're in a room for so many hours.
There there's smells, there's there's things that happen.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Welcome, welcome, all right, all right, this family is awful.
This of course, we're talking about the school shooter, right
and over the weekend I started reading about this. Of course,
the news was last week when you were here. I
was not here. You were here last week.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Right now, Marla and Garrett. I thought the afternoon that
was the week that was Monday.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh okay, so this was the school shooter that took
out four people in the in the high school in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
My computer has frozen.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, So then we come to find out about the
gun that the father bought him, and then we come
to find out over the weekend the mother phoned the
school because she got this disturbing text from her son,
Yeah it sad, and warned them, but they didn't intervene
in time.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
They said it was cryptic, but I think it said
something like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She saw that and
knew that her kid was going to open fire. This
was a kid who was questioned last year after making
threats on on social media. On Discord I believe was
the app he was using.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Again the downside of social media on the Internet, but.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Also the upside of waving the red flag and somebody
seeing it.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And so he is questioned but not taking action.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But not taking action, the father is told that his
son is under investigation for threats, yet despite that, buys
him in Ar fifteen as a gift, just months after
the kid is questioned.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So there were so many failures on so many levels.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yes, and then the reaction to it once again, I mean,
how many of these have we reported on?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Too many, We've covered them.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's like hard in the schools, one hundred percent wrong response.
Soften the schools find out these kids that are that
are waiting to explode and get them.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Help right when they need it. I saw that how
hard is that that you sent?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And I thought, wow, that's such an interesting conversation because
usually the conversation is what is the security in the school?
Is there an officer at the front, is there an
officer in the hallways? Are we going to arm the
teachers with guns? Teachers that don't want to have guns?
All of this hardening talk, right, but what about getting
in there and having mental health treat for kids when
(27:01):
they are showing signs of going that they're going to
need it. This is the age group where you really
want to get in there. And just if this kid
has no one to talk to in his private life,
having somebody to talk to anywhere would go along.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
One hundred per And school officials and leaders and teachers
know that. But it's a question of where you spend
your money. Do we hire do we hire more police officers?
Do we hire more counselors? Because there's no way to
make a school impregnable. Well, they're not banks, they're not fortresses,
they're schools.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And wouldn't it be nice to get in there when
these kids are in middle school and and and remove
the stigma. I mean, we're seeing kids with more psychological
problems now than ever before. At least they're showing their
signs and the kids are reporting it.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
To get in there and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Start exposing these kids to hey, there is help, it's
it's okay, remove the stigma of anything, because who knows
what the parents are saying. Like in this case, this
teenager's grandfather says that the kid was driven by his
father to do what he did. He called for the
father to face the death penalty. Now dad has been
charged in relation to the killings. He admitted to authorities
(28:15):
that he bought the weapon used in the attack. The
mother on this side of the family tree has a
criminal record dating back to two thousand and seven. She
spent time in jail as recently as this passed April.
She's been banned from contacting the teenager without a third
party intermediary. She has a record across four Georgia County's
(28:37):
drug use, domestic violence, property damage fraud.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it's not a pretty picture, but then the question is,
you know, was was anybody watching this young man? This
was a new school, different from the one that he
was attending. When they had when he was interviewed by
the FBI a year ago. So you'd think that there'd
be some type of tracking where there's a way to
you know, this kid when he's school because school just
(29:02):
started the day before.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I heard from a FBI spokesperson over the weekend and
she said, just because the FBI reached out once and
investigated this father son duo, doesn't mean that we continually
monitor them, right to which I say, well, there's got
to be.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
A happy medium.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The FBI can't keep tabs on everybody that it investigates
at every point, but there's got to be especially when
there's a kid involved in high school and they're going
through all of the prefrontal cortex development and figuring out
like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, and all schools have that to some degree now,
like the LAUSD for example, which is what's five hundred
thousand students, the nation's second largest. They have a very
formalized crisis Counseling and intervention service program where they try
to do just that, identify troubled kids, kids with the
potential problems, kids who have made threats, kids who are bullied,
(29:56):
which is all of what happened with this kid in
Georgia and try to intervene. But that's not their primary job,
right The primary job is education. So it's not an
easy problem to resolve, as we've seen over and over
and over again. But when then you hear somebody like
jd Vance's response is way up to harden the schools,
it just seems like just a rote response that really
(30:18):
isn't based on any unrealistic plan.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
As jd Vance said, anything that has helped him, I
haven't paid it, end to.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Look for it.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I haven't really paid attention. It was so nice being
on vacation last week. By the way, I've never been
to Mammoth. I've lived here for what nineteen years, never
had been. I'd heard people say they go up there
all the time, and I always said, like, oh, it's
a five hour drive.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I don't know, it's five hours. What did you do?
And it was gorgeous. I mean, I can't wait to
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Voting, boating, kayaking, boating, went on a hike.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I did realize though, that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Hiking at high elevation and then choosing a hike where
you gain an other thousand feet probably not a great
idea when you haven't been acclimated to the high elevation.
I took this hike maybe less than twelve hours before
or after we got there, and I'm like halfway up
this this breathing hard, and I started getting dizzy and
(31:16):
I'm feeling a little nauseous, and.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I didn't want to drink. You didn't have the ramen
with you. I didn't listen football season. All bets are off, Okay,
I don't have time the meal playing.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
There are so many great things to do right here
in California, right and we never do any of them.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I also hadn't been to Big Serve before. I went
there earlier this year, but it was great, and Mammoth
Lakes and all the different lakes and I want to
go see that one. I want to go see that
one and just beautiful. And the people up there are
so nice as well.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
There's so many different parts of California.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You think of people outside of California think of LA
and that's it, right, Yeah, maybe San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And those are like the two worst places right now.
Well what you're looking for, but you got to get
out there. Kamala Harris destroyed San Francisco or Gavenus well
they both, Yeah, yeah, all right. You know what I
found too at the DNC. We talked about it a
little bit on the show when we got back is
democrats don't love Gavin News. The Democrats in power are
(32:15):
not fans of Gavenue.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Well, you know, he's on the road today and tomorrow
he's going to end up in Pennsylvania. He's probably going
to be one of those surrogates in the spin room
after the debate, okay, supporting her So yeah, fakely his
star has kind of risen and fallen quickly in the
past year, but I wouldn't count him out.
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