September 16, 2024 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon start the show with the news of another assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. Gary and Shannon also talk about who Luara Loomer is and why she could cost former President Trump to lose two states in the presidential race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. So Splash is a rescue order
that is working in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Seems out of place, but go on.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Splash is being trained to sniff out evidence and victims
in underwater settings. The search and rescue people say, if
a body gets into a canal or a river and
an alligator gets to them before we do, the gator
will take the remains and stuff it somewhere and it
makes it very difficult to find. The search dogs can
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get us into the area, but they can't get us
from the boat to the bottom. The otters get us
from the boat to the bottom. The otters can smell underwater.
They're the only mammals that can smell underwater. Did you
know that?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know that there's so much crap going on in
the world that you look for a good otter story
to kind of set the tone, like a good oyster cracker,
if you will, to cleanse the palette.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am an oyster cracker. Here's the thing I was.
I am in Charlotte, came out here with the Chargers,
and I'm immersed in the worlds of football, so it
was so crushing to me this morning after a great
game played by the Chargers here in Carolina. Of course,
a lot of that has to do with the Panthers
being the worst team in the NFL. However, they played wonderfully.
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It was so nice to see this performance. And then
going back to the hotel, just sitting there having NFL
Red Zone on my tablet, the Chiefs game on the TV,
and just watching hours and hours of football. And then
this morning waking up and looking at Trump assassination attempts
and Kamala Harris putting down all of America with her
lawn comment, Oh this is this.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't know how to even describe how weird this is.
I was yesterday. I could not imagine.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I thought when the first alerts came out that there
was a shooting, you're the president of something like they were.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They're okay, you're exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was somewhere in the state of Florida, there was
a shooting, and yes, Trump happened to be No, no,
this was a legit. It appears a legit attempt at
the guy's life again, and it's it's bothersome looks bad
for the Secret Service, or it looks good for the
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I haven't figured it out yet, But well, they caught.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Him before he was able to get in the I
mean he was in the vicinity, as they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But yeah, and then the question is, how could you
still even get into the vicinity. How could you get
within a couple hundred yards of a former president with
an AK forty seven style rifle.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't think you a scope as well? Yeah, the scope.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't know anything about this, but it sounds like
a scope increases your ability to hit a faraway target.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't believe there was a scope on the rifle itself.
I think it was a spotting scope that you would
hold in your hand to judge a distance. Think of
but remember the kid in Butler Pence, Sylvania had a
rangefinder similar. I mean just in terms of he if
he's going to use it to dial in the rifle,
judge the distance, and that sort of thing that's possible
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possibly what he had. They were able to get this
guy because once the Secret Service saw a rifle barrel
poking through the shrubs on the sixth hole, I believe
it was.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I love it when they're shrubbery involved in a story
because it makes me think of Monty Python shrubbery.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Right, you're the only you're the only woman I know
who thinks of Monty Python. That's a very that's a
very male thing to think. Yeah, but a Secret Service
agent saw the rifle barrel and apparently peeled off a
couple of shots. We don't think that, Ryan Wesley Routh,
this fifty eight year old suspect was able to get
any shots off, but he left his position. He got up,
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and he ran jumps into a Nissan pathfinder. I believe
somebody sees him do that and thinks that's weird. I
don't know why, but they think it's weird. They take
a picture of not just the vehicle, but they happened
to capture the license plate. License plate gets called into
nine one. One gets fed into license plate readers around
that area in Palm Beach County and Martin County. They
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catch him on I ninety five and then in the
neighboring county and then Martin County. Sheriff explains they followed him.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
For a while.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
They got all their resources in place so that they
could make an effective stop and that he was there
a short time after the actual traffic stop, and he
said the whole thing was perplexing.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I was there right after the stop, and it
was perplexing. You know, somebody who actually, at the time,
we were positive that we had the suspect, we had
the vehicle, we thought we had him, but his facial
affect was so flat, his demeanor was relaxed. I honestly
thought it looked like somebody that just left the church
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picnic and was on his way home. And I mean
the Interstate was calling with law enforcement. We had, you know,
our team had gotten out their rifles, helicopter five, shut down,
a bomb dog, everything was there. He was as calm
as as really is if he was going for them.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah. Just the guy's odd.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
His own son says, oh Dad, you know he's he's
adamant about his feelings, but he's not one to do
this bat ass crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I didn't know about the rider die Ukraine. People that
feel so strongly about Ukraine that in helping Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, that they've they've picked up taking up arms against Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I also think that we're wasting our time sometimes when
we go on these retrospective Who are these people? What
made them the way they are? What do we know
about their life? Because they're just crazy people crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We want to ascribe some sort of logical progression to
the guy's you know, downfall, or his his decision making
where he's going to pick up a rifle and aim
at a former president. It's almost as if, well, I mean,
it's not like we're going to find somebody and go,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That reminds me my neighbor Dave.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I wonder if I should call somebody about my neighbor Dave,
because he also feels like Russia is impinging upon Ukraine's sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, and also if you had a neighbor Dave who
was crazy and always ranting about the Ukraine sovereignty, who
would you call about that? And what would they do?
And is there a mechanism to where you can raise
the red flag to the crazy police and say this
person seems to be close to losing it and he's
got guns.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
There's nothing you can do because it potentially would depend
on who he was threatening if it even got to
that level, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But there's more on this.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
In fact, We have an interview that he did with
Newsweek Romania where he describes why he's in Ukraine, why
he's fighting.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
On behalf of the Ukrainians against the Russians.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Our engineer is here with me in Charlotte, and I
was explaining to one of my friends about the show
and said, I don't really remember the context, but he said,
Gary is a beautiful man, and uh, couples spoken a
couple of things. I don't know if I've heard a
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man referred to as beautiful and not you either, not
that you're not beautiful in your own way.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
But.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
God's creatures are all beautiful. But I don't I didn't
know that Rich felt that way about you. You know,
it was completely unsolicited. It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's going to make a very odd first interaction when
we come back, when I see Rich in the hallway,
I know, but there you go. Apparently we've made neighbor
Dave mad already.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Hey, guys, neighbor day from I'm gonna be honest with you,
I'm Dave, But I got a neighbor's he's got the
Ukraine flag and the ground still and up in arms
and probably voting for Kara, So we call it neighbor
Steve instead of neighbor Dave.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Thanks case, sorry, Dave's.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, gosh, neighbor Dave's. I didn't realize that that was
going to be quite was going to be the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did you hear about the media strategy involving Travis Kelcey
and Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Oh? Yeah, you have heard. Which one? Are you talking
about the Laura Lumer version of the media strategy?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't know what that is. I didn't know she
was involved with this romance. But the alleged media plan
says that they're going to break up on September twenty eighth. Oh,
that's the strategy. But now they're threatening legal action against
whoever made this up. Now, if somebody came out and
said that you and your wife were going to get
a divorce on September twenty eighth, you would be like, okay, buddy, okay, Dave, whatever, right.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I wouldn't threaten the law. You wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You wouldn't call your lawyers because there's nothing there there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That is a great point.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We could we could see some snow this week, still
in summer, but they're talking about Yosemite National Park among
other places in the Sierra Nevada could see snow this week.
This trough of low pressure that's coming through, swinging through
southeast and swinging southeast, I should say, through northern and
central California. Cold air, snow level down around eight thousand feet,
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some measurable snow possible before.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The end of this week at Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I was thinking about this attempted assassination attempt, if
that's what you want to call it, that's how it's
being investigated. And I was thinking, Wow, strange times we
are in that people feel like they can take shots
at a former president who's running again. Strange times. But
then you know, you stumble upon the story about Gerald Ford.
Oh yeah, I mean that's before my time. I didn't know.
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I wasn't privy to what happened with Gerald Ford, but
he escaped two assassination attempts within like three weeks in California,
one in Sacramento, the other in San Francisco. And it
was both brought It was both women brought.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, brought to you by ladies from the great state
of California. And the first one it was September fifth,
nineteen seventy five, squeaky from a follower of Charles Manson.
She points a gun at Ford, and originally I thought
that it misfired. The report I saw today set a
Secret Service agent actually grabbed the gun from her before
she was able to get a shot off, and then
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she was taken into custody.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And she was wearing a bright red dress. Who tries
to take a shot at the president wearing a red dress?
Usually when you put on a red dress, you feel good,
you feel confident, you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Want all eyes on you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
With there we do.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And then seventeen days later, I think it was September
twenty second. In that same year seventy five, Sarah Jane
Moore tried to assassinate him. Ford had made an address
to the World Affairs Council in San Francisco, and she
was just a bad shot. She did fire a couple
shots at the president with a thirty eight special.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Was it taken as serious you lived back then?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Was I remember that very well?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Was it taken as seriously as everyone's taking this?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Or is he was?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The thought process? These are just two crazy broads.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
There's I think there's some I vaguely remember the attempt
on Reagan's life very different circumstances, because obviously there was
a point where there was some concern that the president
was going to die. That has not been the case, thankfully,
in these you know, these two attempts. But I mean,
it was wall to wall coverage constantly with Reagan. And
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I remember, I think it was Newsweek magazine that my
parents subscribed to, and I remember seeing an image on
the inside one of the articles describing that where the
path of the bullet in Reagan's body and how close
he was to having his heart shredded by the bullet
fragments that made its way into his chest cavity. That
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kind of that kind of imagery is will forever be
in my head, whether it's because I was what eight
years old at the time or whatever. But I don't
think that those images last as long today in someone's
head for a couple of different reasons. Number One, our
news cycle turns so quickly that it can easily be
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replaced by a stupid story about a barbecued dog or
an otter that can smell underwater.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Barbecued dog.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I'm just talking about all those stories about eating
the animals. Oh yeah, I mean that kind of stuff.
There are some iconic images from the assassination.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't think they're barbecuing the cats and dogs and
the ducks.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, how else are they gonna eat them.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think they're just grabbing them and just cheating them. Raw.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, that's the latest version.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean, there are iconic images of that Butler pa attempt,
you know what, the president former president was in the
air and the flag in the background, surrounded by the
Secret Service agent. Some of those images will live on,
but I mean it was almost like a shoulder shrug yesterday.
I think for some people that somebody tried to assassinate
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a a former president, be a major presidential candidate, and
there's no one.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean President Biden. He still is the president.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
By the way, he came out and said that, I
think we need more personnel. I mean, I want someone's
head to be on fire about this. Regardless of whether
or not you like the guy or don't. This is
not a path that is good for anyone to go down.
And if politicians and pundits and talking heads and people
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on both sides, if they don't start taking responsibility for
the words that come out of their mouth and the
just absolute constant stoking of the fires, and the other
side is bad and they're evil and they are plotting
the destruction of the country or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This it's gonna get. It's gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Two assassination attempts in two months is going to seem
like ice cream Sunday. I saw the sheriff in Palm
Beach County yesterday when he was doing his news conference,
and he suggested that because Donald Trump is a former president,
the level of security around him is smaller than if
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he were the sitting president. Obviously, but there are certain
and I don't I don't know the exact size or
what the concentric circles would be. A sitting president obviously
would have the highest level of security. Vice president would
probably have the exact same, and then from there you've got,
you know, the heads of the major candidates. And that's
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obviously one of the reasons why Trump has the protection,
but also because he is a former president and he
has a Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I have a conspiracy theory that this was done because
Trump needs attention. I think somebody in his orbit did
this to revive what happened in Pennsylvania. Put that back
on our radar, get some attention, win a news cycle.
He hasn't won a news cycle. He's been struggling ever
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since the debate.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
But how does that happen?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And I'm not how how does somebody cook up this idea,
find this guy who's crazy enough to be convinced to
do this and throw away the rest of his life?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For what I mean? I what was? How how do
you do it?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well? You find you do just that. You find someone
crazy enough, somebody who's ranting online or on you know,
Reddit or Discord or what have you about Ukraine, and
that feels strongly and you use your back channels to
get them to remember that girl who convinced that guy
to kill him? Be a text message. I mean, when
somebody's crazy, it's easy to manipulate them to do what
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you want them to do. And I think that it's
a plausible plot. And the other thing is I'm not
convinced Trump doesn't have some sort of knowledge about this.
I mean, this is a guy who's spent his life
getting ratings. It's a guy who loves the teas, a
guy who knows how to put on a show a production,
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and he would be the ultimate showrunner in.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
This situation, Well, there is a couple of weird There's
a weird thing that has come out that I just
saw the report on. Amy mentioned it a few minutes
ago that allegedly this guy, Ryan Routh had spent twelve
hours at the Trump National golf course before Secret Service
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spotted him there.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, the other what makes that unusual is.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This golf outing was supposedly a last minute decision that
nobody knew about it except Trump, the guy that he
was playing with, and a couple of his people around him.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And how would this guy know where to find him?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I mean not, I think that kind of maybe
lends a little accidental credence to what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
How does it How does a guy who out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Either hates the president or whatever his motivation is, how
does he know that Trump was going to be there?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And I mean, from that point, it does.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
M h.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
From that point, it doesn't take a lot of math
to go, Okay, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna target
somebody on a golf course, the only guaranteed place that
a golf player is going to be is on the
t box and depending if you're playing with me or
not on the green now, And apparently he was set up,
I think it was close to the sixth green if
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the diagram that I saw was anywhere close to true.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But but that would make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And in fact, I know that they said that he
was about four hundred yards or whatever, the length of
distance between where he was set up and where the
president actually was when this went down.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But he was getting closer. I mean, as Trump made
his way around that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Golf course from the fifth hole to the sixth hole,
he was eventually going to be very, very close to
this guy. And again there is a question, yes, and
I want to play a quick talkback, but there is
a question of from different law enforcement agents, or I
should say, from news anchors to law enforcement agents, both
former and current, could anything else have been done? Was
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this technically a success? Were there enough Secret Service agents there?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's always going to be a question that you have
to take a look at in the aftermath of something
like this. But I also think that according to their plan,
it worked as it was supposed to work. The other
only option that you have is to close off the
entire area, and I don't know if you can do.
I mean, it's a big public area, there's a lot
of activity, there's businesses that are working. I mean, if
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he wants to play golf, he can play golf. But
there is going to be that inherent risk. Again, you
put your resources out there in the manner that you do,
and you're able to subvert the threat the way.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
That they did.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's Frank Montoya, former FBI Secrets Sorry, special agent.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So we've got special agents calling in on the talkback.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, no, no, no. This was the guy from the
talk back, Garry Shannon. You know, I've been listening and
I don't understand this narrative of was this a secret
service success or is this a Secret service failure? They
stopped the guy. It's Florida.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Florida is nothing but bushes and trees. If anyone has
been there, you can see just quarter mile distances between
even meager houses, which is nothing but like just tree
lines and things you can hide. In the fact that
the secret Service agent saw a barrel pointing out of
the bushes and took a shot at the guy and
stopped him before it even started, that sounds like a
success to me.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but there is still a question,
how does a guy get that close to a former
president with a rifle like that?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Was this woman on your radar? This Laura Lumer Maga
shorder activist.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I actually saw a bit of her stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I had to be after the first assassination at Tip
it started coming up on in Twitter and on my
feed in that she was responding to stories that were
just high profile and she had a certain amount of
I don't want to say credibility, but she had a
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certain amount of information that made it seem like she
was getting some sort of inside scoop from somewhere. A
lot of it turned out to just be, you know,
empty promises of I'm going to have a document dump
that's going to prove that the shooter in Butler, PA
was funded by Democrats or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And yes, she's one of those they're eating animals in Springfield,
Ohio people. From what I see that she writes, she's
just incendiary for the sake of being in cyndiary, it seems,
but maybe a true believer also, she's not going to
get him anywhere when it comes to swing voters in
or swing state voters. It's just it's another thing that
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he's doing that's only going to help him with his
base where he doesn't need help.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, And even that, I don't, I don't, I don't,
that's not a guarantee. I mean, the Tom Tillis's, the
the Lindsay Grahams, even like you said, the Marjorie Taylor
Greens in the Republican Party have said that this woman
should be kept at arm's length, that she should not well.
According to a couple of different reports, he wanted to
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hire her last year as part of the campaign, and
his senior advisors were like, absolutely not. You do not
want to get she is nuclear do you do not
want her in your circle.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So this is what she wrote on social media this
week about Kamala Harris. The White House will smell like
curry and White House speeches will be facilitated via a
call center. Now, that wasn't a off color joke that
she made to a friend, a dumb joke, but she
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published that. She put her name behind that and publicized it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, and Trump was asked about his relationship with her
at that news conference that he did down in our
RPV last week, and all he basically said was, I
know her, I know she's a big fan of the
campaign and then said I don't know what she said,
which is listen, I don't know if he does, if
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he knew or not what she wrote, which was completely stupid.
But see, you can't and this is I think this
is an example her. She is an example of what's
wrong with both sides at this point, because you can't.
Republicans don't hold the higher ground when it comes to
throwing out stupid, baseless claims that do nothing to further
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the political discourse. That was a stupid thing. And the
fact that she's as high profile as she is, having
traveled with the former president in the day's previous that
that's a complete distraction. It's an obvious mistake that you
could have avoided by not having her that close to
the to the candidate.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That gets you nowhere in Georgia, that gets you nowhere
in North Carolina, two key states.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Right, there's no independent, there's no one who's like, I
don't know who I'm going to vote for. Who then
sees that and is like, oh, that's what. I don't
want Curry in my white House.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I just wanted to let that sit there, you know, thanks,
I want I want Curry in my White House. I
actually saw there's a Thai restaurant, not thaie Indian restaurant.
Excuse me. I did see a Thai restaurant as well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
But they probably got some curry too.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I saw an Indian restaurant the other day right around
the corner from the hotel, and I've been tasting chicken
Tika masala ever since. I may go there.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Boy, what a great sit down interview Kamala Harris did
with awful a Channel six Action News out of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I cannot get over the condescension. And she hasn't done
this for a long time, and there it is. It
reared its ugly head, just the condescension over her saying
she grew up with people who cared about their lawns.
Oh like oh, the little people who only just cared
about only have pride in their lawn.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But it's just like what was And that's the thing
is was that a message to supporters of hers that
they would know exactly what she meant by that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Here's here's her answer.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
I try to explain to some people who may not
have had the same experience, you know, if but a
lot of people will relate to this, you know, I
grew up in a neighborhood of folks who are very proud.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Of their lawn, you know, And.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I was raised to believe and to know that all
people deserve dignity and that we as Americans have a
beautiful character.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We're going back to saying nothing.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has
access to the resources that can help them fuel those
dreams and ambitions. So when I talk about building an
opportunity economy, it is very much with the mind of
investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work
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ethic of the American people and creating.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Out She has about seven hundred ways to say, I
believe in the redistribution of wealth. She's like Eskimo with
words for snow. She's she's very clever in the way
that she describes socialism, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But even then it's it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And also, we know we have dreams and aspirations. Like
it kind of sounds like she thinks she's telling us that, like,
you know, Americans, they've got dreams and aspirations. It's like, yes, yes,
we do. We are we are Americans. We're talking to Americans.
We all have that Oh, well, in this country of America, right, Yeah,
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you don't want to hear about a little girl with
a dream to have a nice lawn. But you know,
like my grandfather took great pride in his lawn. I mean,
he really did.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And I hear that, and I hear like she's putting
it down that that that was one of his priorities
in life was to have a great lawn. I gets
these little people or something, I don't know, it rought
me the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's end. You don't have a lawn.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't have a lawn.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Gary, you're fighting for those of us who do.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Shannon Farren fighting for us.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
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that is working in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Seems out of place, but go on.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Splash is being trained to sniff out evidence and victims
in underwater settings. The search and rescue people say, if
a body gets into a canal or a river and
an alligator gets to them before we do, the gator
will take the remains and stuff it somewhere and it
makes it very difficult to find. The search dogs can
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get us into the area, but they can't get us
from the boat to the bottom. The otters get us
from the boat to the bottom. The otters can smell underwater.
They're the only mammals that can smell underwater. Did you
know that?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You know that there's so much crap going on in
the world that you look for a good otter story
to kind of set the tone, like a good oyster cracker,
if you will, to cleanse the palette.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am an oyster cracker. Here's the thing I was.
I am in Charlotte, came out here with the Chargers,
and I'm immersed in the worlds of football, so it
was so crushing to me this morning after a great
game played by the Chargers here in Carolina. Of course,
a lot of that has to do with the Panthers
being the worst team in the NFL. However, they played wonderfully.
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It was so nice to see this performance. And then
going back to the hotel, just sitting there having NFL
Red Zone on my tablet, the Chiefs game on the TV,
and just watching hours and hours of football. And then
this morning waking up and looking at Trump assassination attempts
and Kamala Harris putting down all of America with her
lawn comment, Oh this is this.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't know how to even describe how weird this is.
I was yesterday. I could not imagine.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I thought when the first alerts came out that there
was a shooting, you're the president of something like they were.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They're okay, you're exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was somewhere in the state of Florida, there was
a shooting, and yes, Trump happened to be No, no,
this was a legit. It appears a legit attempt at
the guy's life again, and it's it's bothersome looks bad
for the Secret Service, or it looks good for the
Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I haven't figured it out yet, But well, they caught.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Him before he was able to get in the I
mean he was in the vicinity, as they're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But yeah, and then the question is, how could you
still even get into the vicinity. How could you get
within a couple hundred yards of a former president with
an AK forty seven style rifle.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I don't think you a scope as well? Yeah, the scope.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't know anything about this, but it sounds like
a scope increases your ability to hit a faraway target.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't believe there was a scope on the rifle itself.
I think it was a spotting scope that you would
hold in your hand to judge a distance. Think of
but remember the kid in Butler Pence, Sylvania had a
rangefinder similar. I mean just in terms of he if
he's going to use it to dial in the rifle,
judge the distance, and that sort of thing that's possible
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possibly what he had. They were able to get this
guy because once the Secret Service saw a rifle barrel
poking through the shrubs on the sixth hole, I believe
it was.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I love it when they're shrubbery involved in a story
because it makes me think of Monty Python shrubbery.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Right, you're the only you're the only woman I know
who thinks of Monty Python. That's a very that's a
very male thing to think. Yeah, but a Secret Service
agent saw the rifle barrel and apparently peeled off a
couple of shots. We don't think that, Ryan Wesley Routh,
this fifty eight year old suspect was able to get
any shots off, but he left his position. He got up,
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and he ran jumps into a Nissan pathfinder. I believe
somebody sees him do that and thinks that's weird. I
don't know why, but they think it's weird. They take
a picture of not just the vehicle, but they happened
to capture the license plate. License plate gets called into
nine one. One gets fed into license plate readers around
that area in Palm Beach County and Martin County. They
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catch him on I ninety five and then in the
neighboring county and then Martin County. Sheriff explains they followed him.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
For a while.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
They got all their resources in place so that they
could make an effective stop and that he was there
a short time after the actual traffic stop, and he
said the whole thing was perplexing.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, I was there right after the stop, and it
was perplexing. You know, somebody who actually, at the time,
we were positive that we had the suspect, we had
the vehicle, we thought we had him, but his facial
affect was so flat, his demeanor was relaxed. I honestly
thought it looked like somebody that just left the church
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picnic and was on his way home. And I mean
the Interstate was calling with law enforcement. We had, you know,
our team had gotten out their rifles, helicopter five, shut down,
a bomb dog, everything was there. He was as calm
as as really is if he was going for them.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah. Just the guy's odd.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
His own son says, oh Dad, you know he's he's
adamant about his feelings, but he's not one to do
this bat ass crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I didn't know about the rider die Ukraine. People that
feel so strongly about Ukraine that in helping Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, that they've they've picked up taking up arms against Russia.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I also think that we're wasting our time sometimes when
we go on these retrospective Who are these people? What
made them the way they are? What do we know
about their life? Because they're just crazy people crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We want to ascribe some sort of logical progression to
the guy's you know, downfall, or his his decision making
where he's going to pick up a rifle and aim
at a former president. It's almost as if, well, I mean,
it's not like we're going to find somebody and go,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That reminds me my neighbor Dave.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I wonder if I should call somebody about my neighbor Dave,
because he also feels like Russia is impinging upon Ukraine's sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, and also if you had a neighbor Dave who
was crazy and always ranting about the Ukraine sovereignty, who
would you call about that? And what would they do?
And is there a mechanism to where you can raise
the red flag to the crazy police and say this
person seems to be close to losing it and he's
got guns.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
There's nothing you can do because it potentially would depend
on who he was threatening if it even got to
that level, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But there's more on this.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
In fact, We have an interview that he did with
Newsweek Romania where he describes why he's in Ukraine, why
he's fighting.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
On behalf of the Ukrainians against the Russians.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Our engineer is here with me in Charlotte, and I
was explaining to one of my friends about the show
and said, I don't really remember the context, but he said,
Gary is a beautiful man, and uh, couples spoken a
couple of things. I don't know if I've heard a
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man referred to as beautiful and not you either, not
that you're not beautiful in your own way.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
But.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
God's creatures are all beautiful. But I don't I didn't
know that Rich felt that way about you. You know,
it was completely unsolicited. It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's going to make a very odd first interaction when
we come back, when I see Rich in the hallway,
I know, but there you go. Apparently we've made neighbor
Dave mad already.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Hey, guys, neighbor day from I'm gonna be honest with you,
I'm Dave, But I got a neighbor's he's got the
Ukraine flag and the ground still and up in arms
and probably voting for Kara, So we call it neighbor
Steve instead of neighbor Dave.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Thanks case, sorry, Dave's.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, gosh, neighbor Dave's. I didn't realize that that was
going to be quite was going to be the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Did you hear about the media strategy involving Travis Kelcey
and Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Oh? Yeah, you have heard. Which one? Are you talking
about the Laura Lumer version of the media strategy?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't know what that is. I didn't know she
was involved with this romance. But the alleged media plan
says that they're going to break up on September twenty eighth. Oh,
that's the strategy. But now they're threatening legal action against
whoever made this up. Now, if somebody came out and
said that you and your wife were going to get
a divorce on September twenty eighth, you would be like, okay, buddy, okay, Dave, whatever, right.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I wouldn't threaten the law. You wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You wouldn't call your lawyers because there's nothing there there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That is a great point.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We could we could see some snow this week, still
in summer, but they're talking about Yosemite National Park among
other places in the Sierra Nevada could see snow this week.
This trough of low pressure that's coming through, swinging through
southeast and swinging southeast, I should say, through northern and
central California. Cold air, snow level down around eight thousand feet,
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some measurable snow possible before.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The end of this week at Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I was thinking about this attempted assassination attempt, if
that's what you want to call it, that's how it's
being investigated. And I was thinking, Wow, strange times we
are in that people feel like they can take shots
at a former president who's running again. Strange times. But
then you know, you stumble upon the story about Gerald Ford.
Oh yeah, I mean that's before my time. I didn't know.
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I wasn't privy to what happened with Gerald Ford, but
he escaped two assassination attempts within like three weeks in California,
one in Sacramento, the other in San Francisco. And it
was both brought It was both women brought.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, brought to you by ladies from the great state
of California. And the first one it was September fifth,
nineteen seventy five, squeaky from a follower of Charles Manson.
She points a gun at Ford, and originally I thought
that it misfired. The report I saw today set a
Secret Service agent actually grabbed the gun from her before
she was able to get a shot off, and then
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she was taken into custody.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And she was wearing a bright red dress. Who tries
to take a shot at the president wearing a red dress?
Usually when you put on a red dress, you feel good,
you feel confident, you.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Want all eyes on you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
With there we do.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And then seventeen days later, I think it was September
twenty second. In that same year seventy five, Sarah Jane
Moore tried to assassinate him. Ford had made an address
to the World Affairs Council in San Francisco, and she
was just a bad shot. She did fire a couple
shots at the president with a thirty eight special.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Was it taken as serious you lived back then?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Was I remember that very well?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Was it taken as seriously as everyone's taking this?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Or is he was?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The thought process? These are just two crazy broads.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
There's I think there's some I vaguely remember the attempt
on Reagan's life very different circumstances, because obviously there was
a point where there was some concern that the president
was going to die. That has not been the case, thankfully,
in these you know, these two attempts. But I mean,
it was wall to wall coverage constantly with Reagan. And
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I remember, I think it was Newsweek magazine that my
parents subscribed to, and I remember seeing an image on
the inside one of the articles describing that where the
path of the bullet in Reagan's body and how close
he was to having his heart shredded by the bullet
fragments that made its way into his chest cavity. That
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kind of that kind of imagery is will forever be
in my head, whether it's because I was what eight
years old at the time or whatever. But I don't
think that those images last as long today in someone's
head for a couple of different reasons. Number One, our
news cycle turns so quickly that it can easily be
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replaced by a stupid story about a barbecued dog or
an otter that can smell underwater.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Barbecued dog.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I'm just talking about all those stories about eating
the animals. Oh yeah, I mean that kind of stuff.
There are some iconic images from the assassination.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't think they're barbecuing the cats and dogs and
the ducks.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, how else are they gonna eat them.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think they're just grabbing them and just cheating them. Raw.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, that's the latest version.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean, there are iconic images of that Butler pa attempt,
you know what, the president former president was in the
air and the flag in the background, surrounded by the
Secret Service agent. Some of those images will live on,
but I mean it was almost like a shoulder shrug yesterday.
I think for some people that somebody tried to assassinate
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a a former president, be a major presidential candidate, and
there's no one.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I mean President Biden. He still is the president.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
By the way, he came out and said that, I
think we need more personnel. I mean, I want someone's
head to be on fire about this. Regardless of whether
or not you like the guy or don't. This is
not a path that is good for anyone to go down.
And if politicians and pundits and talking heads and people
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on both sides, if they don't start taking responsibility for
the words that come out of their mouth and the
just absolute constant stoking of the fires, and the other
side is bad and they're evil and they are plotting
the destruction of the country or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This it's gonna get. It's gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Two assassination attempts in two months is going to seem
like ice cream Sunday. I saw the sheriff in Palm
Beach County yesterday when he was doing his news conference,
and he suggested that because Donald Trump is a former president,
the level of security around him is smaller than if
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he were the sitting president. Obviously, but there are certain
and I don't I don't know the exact size or
what the concentric circles would be. A sitting president obviously
would have the highest level of security. Vice president would
probably have the exact same, and then from there you've got,
you know, the heads of the major candidates. And that's
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obviously one of the reasons why Trump has the protection,
but also because he is a former president and he
has a Secret Service protection for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I have a conspiracy theory that this was done because
Trump needs attention. I think somebody in his orbit did
this to revive what happened in Pennsylvania. Put that back
on our radar, get some attention, win a news cycle.
He hasn't won a news cycle. He's been struggling ever
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since the debate.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
But how does that happen?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And I'm not how how does somebody cook up this idea,
find this guy who's crazy enough to be convinced to
do this and throw away the rest of his life?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
For what I mean? I what was? How how do
you do it?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well? You find you do just that. You find someone
crazy enough, somebody who's ranting online or on you know,
Reddit or Discord or what have you about Ukraine, and
that feels strongly and you use your back channels to
get them to remember that girl who convinced that guy
to kill him? Be a text message. I mean, when
somebody's crazy, it's easy to manipulate them to do what
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you want them to do. And I think that it's
a plausible plot. And the other thing is I'm not
convinced Trump doesn't have some sort of knowledge about this.
I mean, this is a guy who's spent his life
getting ratings. It's a guy who loves the teas, a
guy who knows how to put on a show a production,
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and he would be the ultimate showrunner in.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
This situation, Well, there is a couple of weird There's
a weird thing that has come out that I just
saw the report on. Amy mentioned it a few minutes
ago that allegedly this guy, Ryan Routh had spent twelve
hours at the Trump National golf course before Secret Service
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spotted him there.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, the other what makes that unusual is.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This golf outing was supposedly a last minute decision that
nobody knew about it except Trump, the guy that he
was playing with, and a couple of his people around him.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And how would this guy know where to find him?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I mean not, I think that kind of maybe
lends a little accidental credence to what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
How does it How does a guy who out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Either hates the president or whatever his motivation is, how
does he know that Trump was going to be there?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And I mean, from that point, it does.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
That's my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
M h.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
From that point, it doesn't take a lot of math
to go, Okay, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna target
somebody on a golf course, the only guaranteed place that
a golf player is going to be is on the
t box and depending if you're playing with me or
not on the green now, And apparently he was set up,
I think it was close to the sixth green if
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the diagram that I saw was anywhere close to true.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But but that would make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And in fact, I know that they said that he
was about four hundred yards or whatever, the length of
distance between where he was set up and where the
president actually was when this went down.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But he was getting closer. I mean, as Trump made
his way around that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Golf course from the fifth hole to the sixth hole,
he was eventually going to be very, very close to
this guy. And again there is a question, yes, and
I want to play a quick talkback, but there is
a question of from different law enforcement agents, or I
should say, from news anchors to law enforcement agents, both
former and current, could anything else have been done? Was
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this technically a success? Were there enough Secret Service agents there?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's always going to be a question that you have
to take a look at in the aftermath of something
like this. But I also think that according to their plan,
it worked as it was supposed to work. The other
only option that you have is to close off the
entire area, and I don't know if you can do.
I mean, it's a big public area, there's a lot
of activity, there's businesses that are working. I mean, if
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he wants to play golf, he can play golf. But
there is going to be that inherent risk. Again, you
put your resources out there in the manner that you do,
and you're able to subvert the threat the way.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
That they did.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's Frank Montoya, former FBI Secrets Sorry, special agent.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So we've got special agents calling in on the talkback.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, no, no, no. This was the guy from the
talk back, Garry Shannon. You know, I've been listening and
I don't understand this narrative of was this a secret
service success or is this a Secret service failure? They
stopped the guy. It's Florida.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Florida is nothing but bushes and trees. If anyone has
been there, you can see just quarter mile distances between
even meager houses, which is nothing but like just tree
lines and things you can hide. In the fact that
the secret Service agent saw a barrel pointing out of
the bushes and took a shot at the guy and
stopped him before it even started, that sounds like a
success to me.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but there is still a question,
how does a guy get that close to a former
president with a rifle like that?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Was this woman on your radar? This Laura Lumer Maga
shorder activist.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I actually saw a bit of her stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I had to be after the first assassination at Tip
it started coming up on in Twitter and on my
feed in that she was responding to stories that were
just high profile and she had a certain amount of
I don't want to say credibility, but she had a
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certain amount of information that made it seem like she
was getting some sort of inside scoop from somewhere. A
lot of it turned out to just be, you know,
empty promises of I'm going to have a document dump
that's going to prove that the shooter in Butler, PA
was funded by Democrats or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And yes, she's one of those they're eating animals in Springfield,
Ohio people. From what I see that she writes, she's
just incendiary for the sake of being in cyndiary, it seems,
but maybe a true believer also, she's not going to
get him anywhere when it comes to swing voters in
or swing state voters. It's just it's another thing that
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he's doing that's only going to help him with his
base where he doesn't need help.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, And even that, I don't, I don't, I don't,
that's not a guarantee. I mean, the Tom Tillis's, the
the Lindsay Grahams, even like you said, the Marjorie Taylor
Greens in the Republican Party have said that this woman
should be kept at arm's length, that she should not well.
According to a couple of different reports, he wanted to
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hire her last year as part of the campaign, and
his senior advisors were like, absolutely not. You do not
want to get she is nuclear do you do not
want her in your circle.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So this is what she wrote on social media this
week about Kamala Harris. The White House will smell like
curry and White House speeches will be facilitated via a
call center. Now, that wasn't a off color joke that
she made to a friend, a dumb joke, but she
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published that. She put her name behind that and publicized it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, and Trump was asked about his relationship with her
at that news conference that he did down in our
RPV last week, and all he basically said was, I
know her, I know she's a big fan of the
campaign and then said I don't know what she said,
which is listen, I don't know if he does, if
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he knew or not what she wrote, which was completely stupid.
But see, you can't and this is I think this
is an example her. She is an example of what's
wrong with both sides at this point, because you can't.
Republicans don't hold the higher ground when it comes to
throwing out stupid, baseless claims that do nothing to further
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the political discourse. That was a stupid thing. And the
fact that she's as high profile as she is, having
traveled with the former president in the day's previous that
that's a complete distraction. It's an obvious mistake that you
could have avoided by not having her that close to
the to the candidate.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That gets you nowhere in Georgia, that gets you nowhere
in North Carolina, two key states.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Right, there's no independent, there's no one who's like, I
don't know who I'm going to vote for. Who then
sees that and is like, oh, that's what. I don't
want Curry in my white House.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I just wanted to let that sit there, you know, thanks,
I want I want Curry in my White House. I
actually saw there's a Thai restaurant, not thaie Indian restaurant.
Excuse me. I did see a Thai restaurant as well.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
But they probably got some curry too.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I saw an Indian restaurant the other day right around
the corner from the hotel, and I've been tasting chicken
Tika masala ever since. I may go there.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Boy, what a great sit down interview Kamala Harris did
with awful a Channel six Action News out of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I cannot get over the condescension. And she hasn't done
this for a long time, and there it is. It
reared its ugly head, just the condescension over her saying
she grew up with people who cared about their lawns.
Oh like oh, the little people who only just cared
about only have pride in their lawn.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But it's just like what was And that's the thing
is was that a message to supporters of hers that
they would know exactly what she meant by that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Here's here's her answer.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
I try to explain to some people who may not
have had the same experience, you know, if but a
lot of people will relate to this, you know, I
grew up in a neighborhood of folks who are very proud.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Of their lawn, you know, And.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I was raised to believe and to know that all
people deserve dignity and that we as Americans have a
beautiful character.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
We're going back to saying nothing.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has
access to the resources that can help them fuel those
dreams and ambitions. So when I talk about building an
opportunity economy, it is very much with the mind of
investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work
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ethic of the American people and creating.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Out She has about seven hundred ways to say, I
believe in the redistribution of wealth. She's like Eskimo with
words for snow. She's she's very clever in the way
that she describes socialism, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But even then it's it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And also, we know we have dreams and aspirations. Like
it kind of sounds like she thinks she's telling us that, like,
you know, Americans, they've got dreams and aspirations. It's like, yes, yes,
we do. We are we are Americans. We're talking to Americans.
We all have that Oh, well, in this country of America, right, Yeah,
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you don't want to hear about a little girl with
a dream to have a nice lawn. But you know,
like my grandfather took great pride in his lawn. I mean,
he really did.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And I hear that, and I hear like she's putting
it down that that that was one of his priorities
in life was to have a great lawn. I gets
these little people or something, I don't know, it rought
me the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's end. You don't have a lawn.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't have a lawn.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Gary, you're fighting for those of us who do.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Shannon Farren fighting for us.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
All fighting for fighting for the lawn owners. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can always
hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am
to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on
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