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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is going on time four. What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You get this morning in morning our time.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Joe Biden delivered his final address as President of the
UN General Assembly. Used this wide ranging address to talk
to the need to end the Middle East conflict, to
highlight the US and Western ally support for Kiev after
Russia's invasion. He insisted the US must not retreat from
the world and that despite global conflicts, he's still hopeful
for the future. He addressed the withdrawal of American withdrawal
(00:38):
from Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, American presidents had faced that decision, but I was
determined not to leave it to the fifth. Was the
decision accompanied by tragedy. Thirteen brave Americans lost their lives
along with hundreds of Afghans and a suicide bomb. I
think those lost lives. I think of them every day.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Donald Trump has another idea. Were foreign companies to the
United States, He says he wants to offer them access
to federal land. He spoke in Savannah, Georgia today and
unveiled what he called a pitch to foreign companies to
revive manufacturing. Up until now, this has been mostly framed
with measures to punish companies that would take their businesses
off shore. So he's trying to attract companies and said
(01:21):
that he'll take other jobs. He'll take jobs from other
countries and bring them here.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We'll talk about this coming up next. But Brett Favre
made a sad revelation on Capitol Hill. He has announced
he was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Fifty four years old.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Of course, makes it hard to move and speak, gets
a walk as you move into further stages of Parkinson's.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
There's a suicide capsule that's making headlines today. This woman,
apparently an American woman, died in a suicide capsule near
the German border. It's a three D printed device developed
by the Assisted Suicide group Exit and International.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's called a SARCO.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
The device allows users suppress a button that would release
nitrogen gas, causes that person to fall asleep and then
suffocate within a few minutes. They said the woman had
severe immune compromise, described her death as peaceful. Police detained
at least one of the photographers who was there to
document the use of the sarco. Switzerland's health minister told
(02:26):
parliament that the sarco might be illegal because of safety
and chemical regulations.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
UCLA has come out as the top public university in
the country, finds itself again at the top of the
twenty twenty five Best Colleges list, with nearly one third
of its undergrads being first generation students. This is the
eighth year UCLA has earned the number one spot.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's not bad. That is not bad.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Graduates, graduate students, graduator rates comparable to the campus's overall
graduation rate exceeding ninety percent, and a majority worthy of
students complete their education without any student debt.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's pretty amazing. Speaking of college Baylor, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Top fifty private universities, number one in the Big twelve,
number four in Texas, top ten for learning communities, top
ten for first year experience.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's awesome. I did that for you. Thank him.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Reggie Bush is suing in USC and the PAC twelve
Conference and the NCAA to try to get back some
compensation now that the rules are different about name, image
and likeness. Reggie Bush is a guy who could have
made bazillions of dollars while he was at USC if
those laws were in place, They said that he should
(03:42):
be paid to address and rectify ongoing injustices stemming from
the exploitation of Bush's name, image, and likeness during his
tenure as a USC football player. They didn't get into
specifics about the intended lawsuit, but he and his lawyers
are gearing up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Looking for Chico State on this list, Scrolling girl, It's
going to be a while. I've I'm getting arm pain
from scrolling this much.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's Halloween time at Disneyland Resort. KFI wants to give
you a chance to experience the fun. The Happiest Halloween
has brought fiendishly tasty treats, thrills for.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
One and all, and booh boo.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But to full decor to both Disney California Adventure Park
and Disneyland Resort now through October thirty first. In fact,
you keep listening to KFI for your chance to win
a four pack of one day, one park tickets to
the Disneyland Resort.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No results matched your filter settings. Not on the list,
Deborah Market. How could they churn out you and I
and not make the list? I have no idea intellectual
powerhouses that we are well. Brett Farv, of course, legendary
quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. He has announced to
Congress that he has Parkinson's. During an interview in twenty eighteen,
(04:58):
he said he only knows I three or four concussions
he suffered, but that he could have suffered more than
a thousand over the course of his twenty year career.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, he was testifying today in Congress about illegal uses
of different taxpayer moneies. And if you remember, he got
caught up in a scheme where he was accused of
wrongdoing but was working with state officials in Mississippi at
the time.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Sadly, I also lost an investment in the company that
I believed was developing a breakthrough concussion drug I thought
would help others. And I'm sure you'll understand why it's
too late for me, because I've recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's.
This is also a cause dear to my heart. Recently,
the doctor running the company pleaded guilty to taking tan
(05:42):
IF money for his own use. I believe that I
got swept up in a civil lawsuit at the instigation
of state auditor Shad White, an ambitious public official who
decided to tarnish my reputation to try to advance his
own political career.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
He was talking before the House and a House Ways
and Means committee about Prevocus, this company that was making
a concussion drug and it received two million dollars of
temporary assistance for needy families the TAMP funds that he mentioned.
He said he was one of the top investors in
the company, and text messages showed that he began asking
state officials for help getting funds for that company back
(06:21):
in November of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Parkinson's, a brain disorder, causes unintended or uncontrollable movements, shaking, stiffness,
difficulty with balance and coordination, thanks walking very difficult as
you get into later stages of it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
There's this story that also came out.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I believe it was just recently within the last day
or so, but about a third of former professional football
players say they believe that they have chronic traumatic and cephalopathy, right,
and cephalopathy.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There's a price you pay for making all that money.
For people who say, oh, I make all this money,
and well, I was like, well, you know you're making
all that money, but you're talking about lifelong health issues. Yeah,
and they come on quick. Brett far fifty four years old.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well, I mean Junior Seau committed suicide at a time
when it was way too young for him to have Well,
I don't know it. It's never a right time, but
it's one of those. He had believed that he was
suffering from CTE and that's why he committed suicide the
way he did. If you remember, he shot himself in
(07:33):
the chest because they wanted to be able to have
his brain examined post death.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's awful, awful. Tell me something good, do anything good.
You don't have any good news. I tried. I tried
to do good news and it just got nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Really, Yeah, you really did try. You went to the
places where we mined for good news.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Bob Marley's kids are going to do the first Marley
tour in two decades, Ziggie and Julian. Yeah, but why
is that depressing? Bringing back?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I've got a story about a missing cat that was found.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Is this from a friend of yours or is it
a random story?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
A cat who had accompanied a family to Yellowstone was
lost there despite the distance of over eight hundred miles.
The cat's owners got to call two months after that
trip that their animal had been found in California, not Wyoming.
Their cat's name, why would you take a cat to Yellowstone?
(08:40):
You're making this good story back. Their cat's name is
rain r a y n e in the last name
or the middle name of the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Cat bo b e a U Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They were confident that the naturally solitary and self re
life animal would not get lost, but he was startled
by something and ran off into the trees. Betty and
Suzanne looked for him every day of their trip. Time
ticked by. Eventually the couple had to make the abhorrent
decision to leave. We had to leave without him. It
(09:17):
was the hardest day. I felt like I was abandoning him.
Sixty days passed at their home up in Salinas when
they suddenly got a call from an SPCA in Roseville.
The cat had made its way from Yellowstone.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The cat didn't make its way from Yellowstone. Somebody put
it in a truck, so some interstate trucker.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Knowing because no, no, this is a good story. It's
a good story.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Proof the truckers are doing the Lord's work out there.
They picked up a cat they stuck it in their
cab and they're like, listen, little guy, I can only
take you as far as Roseville.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think the cat walked. The ca not walk.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Cat can travel up to four or five miles a day.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How long How long do you think that would take? Oh,
let's see, it's eight hundred miles.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
H See that's that's several months worth. That's three that,
you know, six seven months worth of walking for the cat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Maybe it was a cat that was his program, made
different program differently.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Uh huh. It's like a Tyreek hill cat, like.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The one percent of cats that can cover about twenty
miles a day.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You don't know about rainbow. I don't. You don't want
to know. Listen. We needed a good story, we needed
not one that was made up.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
See this is this is why I need a brush,
because you've been of sour mood all day long without
my hair brushed. As my grandmother would say, your hair
is must must. Yes, you know, like a must heart
of hair must disgusting.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Clean yourself up, also happening. And this should have gone
in the good news thing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We didn't do this.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Governor Gavenusom sign a law assign a bill into law
that will require schools to limit or ban the use
of smartphones. California's bill it passed seventy six to nothing
in the state Assembly, thirty eight to one in the
state Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
WHOA, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It requires school boards or other governing boards bodies that is,
to develop a policy to limit or prohibit student use
of smartphones on campus by July first, twenty twenty six,
and update that policy every five year.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It continues to get real in the Middle East, tens
of thousands of people taking off from southern Lebanon. Israel
continues to pound HESBLA targets an aerial offensive. It's caused
more than five hundred and fifty casualties. As Belazz fighting
back by launching a new barrage of cross border fire.
Israel says it's just going to accelerate its campaign. It's
just going to keep on going. It's going to keep
(11:56):
the foot on the gas.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And we haven't talked about bird flu for while, but
there are reports of bird flu in our cows now,
oh bird flu outbreaks at California dairy herds. Officials reported
the number of infected dairy herds in the Central Valley
doubled over the weekend. It rose from seventeen up to
thirty four. They expect the numbers to go up even
higher as they get more test results in.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's time for True Crime Tuesday. The story is true,
sounds true? No, it sounds made up. I don't know.
Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I haven't seen this yet, and it's funny. Make a
good story. Well, we heard Oscar talking about it off
the air and he was discussing, you know, for those
people who didn't live through it, or at least weren't
aware of it, This whole Eric and Lyle Menendez trial,
killing of their parents, the guilty verdicts, their time in jail,
the potential for them to get a new trial, all
(13:00):
of that stuff is pretty interesting for those who didn't
lived through this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I've seen all the made for TV movies, the documentaries,
the one hour true crime shows on the Lyle and
Eric Menendez story, because when two brothers band together to
kill their parents, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What are the motives, what led to this? What went wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The murders were in August of nineteen eighty nine, and
the parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez, they were Beverly Hills people.
He was big in the entertainment business and it was
one of those salacious things because there was so much
money involved, right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So they were murdered.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
The call I can hear it right now, clear as
day from Lyle who calls his parents murder and somebody
murdered of my parents. They were running with this narrative
that it was the mafia or Cuban mafia or what
have you, that went after Cuban born Jose Menendez. And
we found out at the time that Lyle and Eric
(14:02):
Menendez in the days after their parents were killed, allegedly
by the mafia or whatever, they went on lavish spending sprees.
And I knew all about that, and knew the stuff
that they bought, watches and cars and all of that.
But Ryan Murphy takes liberties telling the stories, and he
adds embellishments in the moments that we just don't know about, right,
(14:22):
private moments that the brothers had, private moments the brothers
had with their friends, intricacies of their relationship, and he really.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Swings for the fences with this one.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It is a very dirty laundry esque treatment of what
was a very dirty story to begin with.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I guess there's a lot that concentrates specifically on the
therapist Jerome Oziel.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So Jerome Oziel was a therapist Eric the younger brother
was seeing for quite some time before the murders, and
in the wake of the murders, he reached out to
Ozeal to say, Hey, I need to come see you today.
I keep having these bad dreams, and he effectively confesses
eventually to this therapist. The therapist at the time is
(15:09):
cheating on his wife with another patient, and he calls
her and he says, hey, Lyele Menendez has found out
that Eric has confessed to me. He's coming to my office.
You've got to come here right now, so there'll be
someone here that knows if something happens to me, who
did it. Well, as things go south when you're cheating
(15:31):
on your wife, things went south. And what happened was
he promised Eric and Lyle complete confidentiality patient Doctor Patent
Act to patient privilege. But it was her, the girlfriend
who was broken up with, who ended up going to
the police to tell her what she knew was going on.
(15:53):
We are in the midst of True Crime Tuesday talking
about the Lyle and Eric Menendez story. Because of Ryan
Murphy's a new treatment of it called Monsters, began streaming
a few days ago. It's a dramatization of the real
life saga of the brothers who killed their parents back
in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Not a documentary.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Not a documentary, No, not at all. And that's pretty obvious,
very obvious.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And you were mentioning that the after mom and dad
ended up dead, Eric had gone to his therapist, Jerome
Oziel and ask if he could see him and he'd
been haunted by nightmares. And they take a walk and
Eric starts crying. He confessed to the murders. He confessed
that he and his brother shot mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So his older brother, Lyle finds out he confessed. What
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, what have you?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He comes into the therapist office, but before he does,
when he's on his way and the therapist can tell,
Lyle's very pissed off about the confession. The therapist calls
his girlfriend. He's married, but is cheating on his wife
with this girlfriend. He calls her and says, hey, Eric
Menendez confess to the murder.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Can you come down here?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So if something happens to me will know who did it,
and so he maintains this relationship with this crazy ass woman.
And one of the parts, one of the weird things
is that like at one point she she's one of
those in Ryan Murphy's adaptation, the girlfriend's like one of
those paranoid mistresses, and she uses those healing crystals, and
(17:22):
she feels like she's going to be a target now
that Lyle has seen her in the office, and so
she manipulates the therapist into moving her into his guest house, yes,
the guest house that is on the property where he
lives with his wife, and she refuses to leave, so
he finally breaks up with her, and to get back
at him, that's when she calls the cops, saying, I
(17:44):
have information about the Menenda story.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
They have a lawsuit back and forth or something like that. Also,
I mean real life, not.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just the yeah that sounds that sounds vaguely familiar.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, in real life, like you said, she did eventually
go to the police. March of nineteen ninety, after they
had broken up. There was a judge that ruled that
the conversations, the recorded conversations between Ozel and the Menendez brothers,
could be used as evidence in the murder case because
the brothers were believed to have threatened the therapist, and
(18:18):
that threatened that threat constituted an exception to this court
rule the conversations between therapists and patients would be privileged.
So authorities picked up the tapes as part of a
warrant search on his home, and for the next two
years there's a fight over whether or not those can
be allowed in court. Nineteen ninety two, the State Supreme
(18:39):
Court ruled most of those tapes would be admissible.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
When that happened, Leslie Abramson said that she was going
to she was going to discredit the psychologist, this therapist
Oziel in every way known to man and God, and
the way it's written up in vanity fit.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Abramson worked a ozl like a chew toy. That's what
she did. She is a dragon lady or what have you.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
She got him to admit that he hadn't told them
an into his family that his license was on probation
by the State Board of Psychology because of what it
called an inappropriate dual relationship where he was exchanging therapy
for construction work on his house. There was a lawsuit
back in nineteen ninety when the breakup was happening, that
the girlfriend filed against the therapist, alleging that the psychologist
(19:29):
had assaulted, raped, kidnapped, and medicated her. And when asked
about the whether Ozl settled the case, he replied, well,
I didn't, but my insurance company did. He then filed
a countersuit, by the way, and that's where I said,
the dueling lawsuits going back and forth. He filed a
countersuit alleging that the girlfriend developed a quote bizarre fixation
and obsession with him.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
In nineteen ninety three, The La Times reported that the
insane details of the relationship between a therapist and his
girlfriend that they went on so long in court that
one juror doodled on his hand during her testimony. He
did perk up, however, when the girlfriend explained why she
never wanted kids with a therapist, saying I would not
want children that looked like doctor Oziel.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Apparently that line verbatim in the show, and it was
enough of a outlining crazy to too crazy to be true,
but it was completely true.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's a fun watch. It's real or not. The liberties
that Ryan Murphy takes are fantastical.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
By the way, she did in nineteen ninety three recant
her whole story. The girlfriend did, claiming she had been brainwashed.
She ended up testifying for the defense, saying she would
do whatever she could to discredit the therapist, and of course,
nineteen ninety six, they were convicted to counts first degree
murder conspiracy to commit murder and are currently serving life
(20:58):
sentences in Chris you've.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is going on time four. What's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You get this morning in morning our time.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Joe Biden delivered his final address as President of the
UN General Assembly. Used this wide ranging address to talk
to the need to end the Middle East conflict, to
highlight the US and Western ally support for Kiev after
Russia's invasion. He insisted the US must not retreat from
the world and that despite global conflicts, he's still hopeful
for the future. He addressed the withdrawal of American withdrawal
(00:38):
from Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, American presidents had faced that decision, but I was
determined not to leave it to the fifth. Was the
decision accompanied by tragedy. Thirteen brave Americans lost their lives
along with hundreds of Afghans and a suicide bomb. I
think those lost lives. I think of them every day.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Donald Trump has another idea. Were foreign companies to the
United States, He says he wants to offer them access
to federal land. He spoke in Savannah, Georgia today and
unveiled what he called a pitch to foreign companies to
revive manufacturing. Up until now, this has been mostly framed
with measures to punish companies that would take their businesses
off shore. So he's trying to attract companies and said
(01:21):
that he'll take other jobs. He'll take jobs from other
countries and bring them here.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We'll talk about this coming up next. But Brett Favre
made a sad revelation on Capitol Hill. He has announced
he was recently diagnosed with Parkinson's.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Fifty four years old.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Of course, makes it hard to move and speak, gets
a walk as you move into further stages of Parkinson's.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
There's a suicide capsule that's making headlines today. This woman,
apparently an American woman, died in a suicide capsule near
the German border. It's a three D printed device developed
by the Assisted Suicide group Exit and International.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's called a SARCO.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
The device allows users suppress a button that would release
nitrogen gas, causes that person to fall asleep and then
suffocate within a few minutes. They said the woman had
severe immune compromise, described her death as peaceful. Police detained
at least one of the photographers who was there to
document the use of the sarco. Switzerland's health minister told
(02:26):
parliament that the sarco might be illegal because of safety
and chemical regulations.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
UCLA has come out as the top public university in
the country, finds itself again at the top of the
twenty twenty five Best Colleges list, with nearly one third
of its undergrads being first generation students. This is the
eighth year UCLA has earned the number one spot.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's not bad. That is not bad.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Graduates, graduate students, graduator rates comparable to the campus's overall
graduation rate exceeding ninety percent, and a majority worthy of
students complete their education without any student debt.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's pretty amazing. Speaking of college Baylor, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Top fifty private universities, number one in the Big twelve,
number four in Texas, top ten for learning communities, top
ten for first year experience.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's awesome. I did that for you. Thank him.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Reggie Bush is suing in USC and the PAC twelve
Conference and the NCAA to try to get back some
compensation now that the rules are different about name, image
and likeness. Reggie Bush is a guy who could have
made bazillions of dollars while he was at USC if
those laws were in place, They said that he should
(03:42):
be paid to address and rectify ongoing injustices stemming from
the exploitation of Bush's name, image, and likeness during his
tenure as a USC football player. They didn't get into
specifics about the intended lawsuit, but he and his lawyers
are gearing up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Looking for Chico State on this list, Scrolling girl, It's
going to be a while. I've I'm getting arm pain
from scrolling this much.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's Halloween time at Disneyland Resort. KFI wants to give
you a chance to experience the fun. The Happiest Halloween
has brought fiendishly tasty treats, thrills for.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
One and all, and booh boo.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But to full decor to both Disney California Adventure Park
and Disneyland Resort now through October thirty first. In fact,
you keep listening to KFI for your chance to win
a four pack of one day, one park tickets to
the Disneyland Resort.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No results matched your filter settings. Not on the list,
Deborah Market. How could they churn out you and I
and not make the list? I have no idea intellectual
powerhouses that we are well. Brett Farv, of course, legendary
quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. He has announced to
Congress that he has Parkinson's. During an interview in twenty eighteen,
(04:58):
he said he only knows I three or four concussions
he suffered, but that he could have suffered more than
a thousand over the course of his twenty year career.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, he was testifying today in Congress about illegal uses
of different taxpayer moneies. And if you remember, he got
caught up in a scheme where he was accused of
wrongdoing but was working with state officials in Mississippi at
the time.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Sadly, I also lost an investment in the company that
I believed was developing a breakthrough concussion drug I thought
would help others. And I'm sure you'll understand why it's
too late for me, because I've recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's.
This is also a cause dear to my heart. Recently,
the doctor running the company pleaded guilty to taking tan
(05:42):
IF money for his own use. I believe that I
got swept up in a civil lawsuit at the instigation
of state auditor Shad White, an ambitious public official who
decided to tarnish my reputation to try to advance his
own political career.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
He was talking before the House and a House Ways
and Means committee about Prevocus, this company that was making
a concussion drug and it received two million dollars of
temporary assistance for needy families the TAMP funds that he mentioned.
He said he was one of the top investors in
the company, and text messages showed that he began asking
state officials for help getting funds for that company back
(06:21):
in November of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Parkinson's, a brain disorder, causes unintended or uncontrollable movements, shaking, stiffness,
difficulty with balance and coordination, thanks walking very difficult as
you get into later stages of it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
There's this story that also came out.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I believe it was just recently within the last day
or so, but about a third of former professional football
players say they believe that they have chronic traumatic and cephalopathy, right,
and cephalopathy.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There's a price you pay for making all that money.
For people who say, oh, I make all this money,
and well, I was like, well, you know you're making
all that money, but you're talking about lifelong health issues. Yeah,
and they come on quick. Brett far fifty four years old.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well, I mean Junior Seau committed suicide at a time
when it was way too young for him to have Well,
I don't know it. It's never a right time, but
it's one of those. He had believed that he was
suffering from CTE and that's why he committed suicide the
way he did. If you remember, he shot himself in
(07:33):
the chest because they wanted to be able to have
his brain examined post death.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's awful, awful. Tell me something good, do anything good.
You don't have any good news. I tried. I tried
to do good news and it just got nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Really, Yeah, you really did try. You went to the
places where we mined for good news.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Bob Marley's kids are going to do the first Marley
tour in two decades, Ziggie and Julian. Yeah, but why
is that depressing? Bringing back?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I've got a story about a missing cat that was found.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Is this from a friend of yours or is it
a random story?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
A cat who had accompanied a family to Yellowstone was
lost there despite the distance of over eight hundred miles.
The cat's owners got to call two months after that
trip that their animal had been found in California, not Wyoming.
Their cat's name, why would you take a cat to Yellowstone?
(08:40):
You're making this good story back. Their cat's name is
rain r a y n e in the last name
or the middle name of the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Cat bo b e a U Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
They were confident that the naturally solitary and self re
life animal would not get lost, but he was startled
by something and ran off into the trees. Betty and
Suzanne looked for him every day of their trip. Time
ticked by. Eventually the couple had to make the abhorrent
decision to leave. We had to leave without him. It
(09:17):
was the hardest day. I felt like I was abandoning him.
Sixty days passed at their home up in Salinas when
they suddenly got a call from an SPCA in Roseville.
The cat had made its way from Yellowstone.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The cat didn't make its way from Yellowstone. Somebody put
it in a truck, so some interstate trucker.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Knowing because no, no, this is a good story. It's
a good story.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Proof the truckers are doing the Lord's work out there.
They picked up a cat they stuck it in their
cab and they're like, listen, little guy, I can only
take you as far as Roseville.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think the cat walked. The ca not walk.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Cat can travel up to four or five miles a day.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How long How long do you think that would take? Oh,
let's see, it's eight hundred miles.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
H See that's that's several months worth. That's three that,
you know, six seven months worth of walking for the cat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Maybe it was a cat that was his program, made
different program differently.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Uh huh. It's like a Tyreek hill cat, like.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The one percent of cats that can cover about twenty
miles a day.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You don't know about rainbow. I don't. You don't want
to know. Listen. We needed a good story, we needed
not one that was made up.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
See this is this is why I need a brush,
because you've been of sour mood all day long without
my hair brushed. As my grandmother would say, your hair
is must must. Yes, you know, like a must heart
of hair must disgusting.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Clean yourself up, also happening. And this should have gone
in the good news thing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We didn't do this.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Governor Gavenusom sign a law assign a bill into law
that will require schools to limit or ban the use
of smartphones. California's bill it passed seventy six to nothing
in the state Assembly, thirty eight to one in the
state Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
WHOA, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It requires school boards or other governing boards bodies that is,
to develop a policy to limit or prohibit student use
of smartphones on campus by July first, twenty twenty six,
and update that policy every five year.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It continues to get real in the Middle East, tens
of thousands of people taking off from southern Lebanon. Israel
continues to pound HESBLA targets an aerial offensive. It's caused
more than five hundred and fifty casualties. As Belazz fighting
back by launching a new barrage of cross border fire.
Israel says it's just going to accelerate its campaign. It's
just going to keep on going. It's going to keep
(11:56):
the foot on the gas.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And we haven't talked about bird flu for while, but
there are reports of bird flu in our cows now,
oh bird flu outbreaks at California dairy herds. Officials reported
the number of infected dairy herds in the Central Valley
doubled over the weekend. It rose from seventeen up to
thirty four. They expect the numbers to go up even
higher as they get more test results in.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's time for True Crime Tuesday. The story is true,
sounds true? No, it sounds made up. I don't know.
Gary and Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I haven't seen this yet, and it's funny. Make a
good story. Well, we heard Oscar talking about it off
the air and he was discussing, you know, for those
people who didn't live through it, or at least weren't
aware of it, This whole Eric and Lyle Menendez trial,
killing of their parents, the guilty verdicts, their time in jail,
the potential for them to get a new trial, all
(13:00):
of that stuff is pretty interesting for those who didn't
lived through this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I've seen all the made for TV movies, the documentaries,
the one hour true crime shows on the Lyle and
Eric Menendez story, because when two brothers band together to
kill their parents, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What are the motives, what led to this? What went wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The murders were in August of nineteen eighty nine, and
the parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez, they were Beverly Hills people.
He was big in the entertainment business and it was
one of those salacious things because there was so much
money involved, right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So they were murdered.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
The call I can hear it right now, clear as
day from Lyle who calls his parents murder and somebody
murdered of my parents. They were running with this narrative
that it was the mafia or Cuban mafia or what
have you, that went after Cuban born Jose Menendez. And
we found out at the time that Lyle and Eric
(14:02):
Menendez in the days after their parents were killed, allegedly
by the mafia or whatever, they went on lavish spending sprees.
And I knew all about that, and knew the stuff
that they bought, watches and cars and all of that.
But Ryan Murphy takes liberties telling the stories, and he
adds embellishments in the moments that we just don't know about, right,
(14:22):
private moments that the brothers had, private moments the brothers
had with their friends, intricacies of their relationship, and he really.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Swings for the fences with this one.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It is a very dirty laundry esque treatment of what
was a very dirty story to begin with.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I guess there's a lot that concentrates specifically on the
therapist Jerome Oziel.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So Jerome Oziel was a therapist Eric the younger brother
was seeing for quite some time before the murders, and
in the wake of the murders, he reached out to
Ozeal to say, Hey, I need to come see you today.
I keep having these bad dreams, and he effectively confesses
eventually to this therapist. The therapist at the time is
(15:09):
cheating on his wife with another patient, and he calls
her and he says, hey, Lyele Menendez has found out
that Eric has confessed to me. He's coming to my office.
You've got to come here right now, so there'll be
someone here that knows if something happens to me, who
did it. Well, as things go south when you're cheating
(15:31):
on your wife, things went south. And what happened was
he promised Eric and Lyle complete confidentiality patient Doctor Patent
Act to patient privilege. But it was her, the girlfriend
who was broken up with, who ended up going to
the police to tell her what she knew was going on.
(15:53):
We are in the midst of True Crime Tuesday talking
about the Lyle and Eric Menendez story. Because of Ryan
Murphy's a new treatment of it called Monsters, began streaming
a few days ago. It's a dramatization of the real
life saga of the brothers who killed their parents back
in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Not a documentary.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Not a documentary, No, not at all. And that's pretty obvious,
very obvious.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And you were mentioning that the after mom and dad
ended up dead, Eric had gone to his therapist, Jerome
Oziel and ask if he could see him and he'd
been haunted by nightmares. And they take a walk and
Eric starts crying. He confessed to the murders. He confessed
that he and his brother shot mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So his older brother, Lyle finds out he confessed. What
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, what have you?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He comes into the therapist office, but before he does,
when he's on his way and the therapist can tell,
Lyle's very pissed off about the confession. The therapist calls
his girlfriend. He's married, but is cheating on his wife
with this girlfriend. He calls her and says, hey, Eric
Menendez confess to the murder.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Can you come down here?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So if something happens to me will know who did it,
and so he maintains this relationship with this crazy ass woman.
And one of the parts, one of the weird things
is that like at one point she she's one of
those in Ryan Murphy's adaptation, the girlfriend's like one of
those paranoid mistresses, and she uses those healing crystals, and
(17:22):
she feels like she's going to be a target now
that Lyle has seen her in the office, and so
she manipulates the therapist into moving her into his guest house, yes,
the guest house that is on the property where he
lives with his wife, and she refuses to leave, so
he finally breaks up with her, and to get back
at him, that's when she calls the cops, saying, I
(17:44):
have information about the Menenda story.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
They have a lawsuit back and forth or something like that. Also,
I mean real life, not.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just the yeah that sounds that sounds vaguely familiar.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, in real life, like you said, she did eventually
go to the police. March of nineteen ninety, after they
had broken up. There was a judge that ruled that
the conversations, the recorded conversations between Ozel and the Menendez brothers,
could be used as evidence in the murder case because
the brothers were believed to have threatened the therapist, and
(18:18):
that threatened that threat constituted an exception to this court
rule the conversations between therapists and patients would be privileged.
So authorities picked up the tapes as part of a
warrant search on his home, and for the next two
years there's a fight over whether or not those can
be allowed in court. Nineteen ninety two, the State Supreme
(18:39):
Court ruled most of those tapes would be admissible.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
When that happened, Leslie Abramson said that she was going
to she was going to discredit the psychologist, this therapist
Oziel in every way known to man and God, and
the way it's written up in vanity fit.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Abramson worked a ozl like a chew toy. That's what
she did. She is a dragon lady or what have you.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
She got him to admit that he hadn't told them
an into his family that his license was on probation
by the State Board of Psychology because of what it
called an inappropriate dual relationship where he was exchanging therapy
for construction work on his house. There was a lawsuit
back in nineteen ninety when the breakup was happening, that
the girlfriend filed against the therapist, alleging that the psychologist
(19:29):
had assaulted, raped, kidnapped, and medicated her. And when asked
about the whether Ozl settled the case, he replied, well,
I didn't, but my insurance company did. He then filed
a countersuit, by the way, and that's where I said,
the dueling lawsuits going back and forth. He filed a
countersuit alleging that the girlfriend developed a quote bizarre fixation
and obsession with him.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
In nineteen ninety three, The La Times reported that the
insane details of the relationship between a therapist and his
girlfriend that they went on so long in court that
one juror doodled on his hand during her testimony. He
did perk up, however, when the girlfriend explained why she
never wanted kids with a therapist, saying I would not
want children that looked like doctor Oziel.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Apparently that line verbatim in the show, and it was
enough of a outlining crazy to too crazy to be true,
but it was completely true.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's a fun watch. It's real or not. The liberties
that Ryan Murphy takes are fantastical.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
By the way, she did in nineteen ninety three recant
her whole story. The girlfriend did, claiming she had been brainwashed.
She ended up testifying for the defense, saying she would
do whatever she could to discredit the therapist, and of course,
nineteen ninety six, they were convicted to counts first degree
murder conspiracy to commit murder and are currently serving life
(20:58):
sentences in Chris you've.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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