October 2, 2024 • 28 mins
Gary begins the second hour of the show with updates on the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. KIF’s Michael Monks joins the show to talk about possible release of the pillowcase rapist.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Guys, after watching that debate last night, I think the
only answer is we need.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
A Waltz and advanced campaign.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Screw Trump and.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Common I mean, they did seem to have a lot
in common at least that's what they kept saying last night.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Who lost last night was Donald Trump? Both of the
candidates last night that they made Donald Trump sound like
a grumpy old man who couldn't put thoughts together.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This was a retro version of a presidential debate or
vice presidential debate. This goes back to, you know, the
old days when they would shake hands and they would
be nice to each other and be dignified when they
were giving when they were giving their arguments one way
or the other, and they didn't boil down to personal attacks.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So, you know, that was a nice thing to see.
It was nice that that existed or still does exist.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Over in New York, the NYPD has mobilized cops to
houses of worship around that city. Iran, of course, fired
almost two hundred rockets against Israel yesterday, and this enhanced
deployment of police personnel in New York is set to
extend through the High Holy Days, begins with rash Hashana
at sunset and then includes through October seventh, of course,
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the year anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel which
sparked this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Whole conflict. In the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Seven people were murdered yesterday dozens wounded in a terrorist
attack at a light rail station in Jaffa, right about
the time that the rockets started flying in from Iran.
The two terrorists were shot dead by members of the
municipal security patrol unit and citizens who were using their
personal firearms there in Israel, President Biden is expected to
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travel to both North and South Carolina today to survey
damage from the storm from Hurricane Helene. And it's not
getting any better anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
This is like a Katrina on steroids.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
We have people on oxygen that are completely out now
Burly provided a single twelve hour tank.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
At most. We have babies up there with a formula.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
There's a reporter, Fox Weather reporter Jane Minar, who was
out there in western North Carolina and described what she
saw this morning.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
The debris is incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I did see just a couple of minutes ago, people
on horseback, including a doctor that we're getting up into
the hallers behind me to do welfare checks. As of
where I stand right now, what I know in Wataga
County here in North Carolina, two have been confirmed dead
to landslides, but they are getting their power back and
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water boiled water advisories.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have been lifted.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
We are expecting to see some comments. Obviously, President Biden
made some comments to Joint Bass Andrews before he left
on Air Force one to head south to the Carolinus
to see what's going on. So if he gets there
and makes some comments, we will we'll at least listen
in and see what he's going to say. We know
the Vice President Harris also has taken some time away
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from the campaign trail to go down there. The death
toll is now up over one sixty and there is
a concern that we might not know the full death
toll for a few years.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And there's a couple different reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The FEMA administrator Dan Criswell said, we don't know that
anybody could be fully prepared for the amount of flooding
and landslides that they are experiencing right now. Because we're
going to continue to see ongoing power outages, the cell
phone outages, and as the reporter there was mentioning, there's
literally people on horseback trying to find survivors, family members.
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We did a couple stories yesterday about how people were
hiking several miles in order to get to their loved ones.
According to the AP, more than one hundred and sixty
storm related fatalities in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee,
and Virginia, but still hundreds of people unaccounted for, and
the number of unaccounted for is expected to go up over.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
The next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There were a couple of a study that was published
in the journal Nature says we could see the numbers
rise for years. They looked at the effects of more
than five hundred tropical storms that have hit the United
States between nineteen thirty and twenty fifteen, and they looked
at the difference in the mortality rates before and after
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the storms and tracked what they call excess deaths. You
remember that term, probably from the COVID times. They wanted
to see how many people would die above the usual
monthly average and how long that increased rate of death continued,
and they found that on average, each tropical storm event
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caused seven to eleven thousand excess deaths because of the
health effect that persist after initial landfall. I mean, they said,
we thought there would be six months of delayed effects,
maybe a year, but they said it kept going and
it started to decline about fifteen years after the storm.
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The impact of a storm like this cannot be understated. Obviously,
the immediate impacts, I mean, since that since that storm
made landfall last week, we're talking about a week later,
almost a week later, and people don't have power, they
don't have natural gas, they don't have gasoline, they don't
have electricity, they don't have water, they don't have the
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ability to get around, they don't have communication. And we're
talking about a week later. Now, that's not necessarily going
to cause people to die, because the direct deaths that
are attributed to a storm like this, you get hit
by debris, you're in a car accident, you drown, something
like that. But then you've got indirect deaths, and they
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don't often count these indirect deaths when they give an
official death toll. Things like ongoing health problems, economic problems,
social changes, even that are caused by a disaster. So,
for example, this is an example they use for an
indirect death. If someone drains their bank account in order
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to rebuild their house or their property or whatever business,
they may not be able to pay for the health
care that they need in the future, or if they
have to relocate, they might not have the same social
network that they rely on for future health emergencies. And
we've talked many, many times, not specifically about storms like this,
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but how important a social network is to maintaining your
good health. Then you have the ongoing environmental factors. You
have the continuing danger of environmental factors that are impacted
by storms. The stress of surviving a storm itself may
take a toll, especially if you older, especially if you've
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already got some sort of compromised health that you're dealing with.
They said tropical storms contribute to more deaths than those
from motor vehicle accidents or infectious diseases in the eighty
five years that they tracked again, going back to the
going back to nineteen thirty, and they said that builds
on this growing body of work that says that hurricanes
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could be significant drivers of public health crises, not just
the days and week or two weeks after a hurricane,
but as long as several years, so we may see
the toll on this continued a rise. Well, a judge
says he is going to take under submission this proposal
to release a sexually violent serial predator known as the
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Pillowcase rapist in the Antelope Valley. Our own Michael Monks
is covering the story for us. Michael, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Hey, good morning Gary. Yes, this was a very short hearing,
in spite of all the build up to it and
all the collection of those letters from the community, including
elected officials like County Supervisor Catherine Barger, La County District
Attorney George Gascone. It lasted about twenty minutes, and what
we heard were a lot more arguments against releasing Christopher
Hubbart into the community of Juniper Hills where people have
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dealt with the situation before and don't want to deal
with it again. So we even heard the La County
Sheriff's Department say, look, the last time Christopher Hubbart was
released before he was put back in prison because he
was failing some of the you know, the ramifications they
put on.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
His on his release.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
They said we had to go to his house three
times a day because of protests and other disruptions. And
Juniper Hills is even farther away from the Palmdale area
where this happened originally, like it would take hours to
respond to these things over and over. Please don't put
him in Juniper Hills. We don't know what's going to happen.
The judge took everything under advisement and now we await
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that ruling. Is there a is there a mechanism for
him to stay in a state facility? I know he
was at Coalinga for.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
A while, the state hospital there, But is there a
mechanism for guys like this where there is no viable
alternative for him to live amongst the public, to just
stay on state property. Well, we have to keep in
mind that the case in La County is specifically about
the location of his release. It's not about whether the
Pillow case rapist is going to get out of prison.
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That was a decision that came out of a different
county court in Santa Clara, and in that ruling, the
decision was specifically to place them in La County. So
that's what we're dealing with here, so regardless of what
other mechanisms excuse me, mechanisms may be at play. The
judge in the Hollywood courthouse yesterday made it clear we're
only talking about the location. So if there is somebody
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higher up or in another department of the state prison system,
we might hear from them at another time, especially if
Juniper Hills doesn't work out and they start talking about
another alternative. I can't imagine any community rising up and saying, oh, yeah,
that's okay with us. Is there any way to appeal
a rule like this from the judge? In terms of
the local politicians you mentioned, the state county supervisor, the
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district attorney, the sheriff's department, they've all had problems with this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
What we've heard so far from folks like that district
attorney sheriff's office was speak out against it. That seems
to be the appeal, not in the legal sense, but
in the public relations sense. Make an appeal to persuade
the judge not to place this person in Juniper Hills.
So this is a very rural area, of course, in
La County. The judge said, listen, I understand I'm taking
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all of your notes hundreds of them into consideration here
as we make this decision. But he also noted it's
difficult to place what is considered a sexually violent predator
and SVP because of all the rules around where of
those folks can be located. So it does limit where
you can be in a place like La County. You've
got to find some place out in the sticks. So
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we'll just be waiting to see how this plays out.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
In terms of the numbers, they said thousands of rental
properties and only one of them would have fit the
criteria that would have been found exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's the challenge that the judge faces because this guy's
a bad guy, Christopher Hubbard. I mean, there's no question
about that. He's been sentenced three times over three different
decades for rapes and other sexual offenses, and was released
to the Palmdale area several years ago, and you know,
had to undergo some tests and some light detector tests.
Did not reoffend in the violent sense, but did fail
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some of those examinations, and so they put him back
into a controlled population. But you know, now he's seventy four,
and folks still seem to be concerned whether he could
fit inside their community.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, all right, Michael, thank you appreciate it. Mike Pleacher, Gary,
you mentioned the Christopher Hubbard was convicted in nineteen seventy three.
Was he would have been twenty three at the time
nineteen seventy three. He was convicted in nineteen eighty two.
He was convicted in nineteen ninety in La count and
up in northern California for a series of at least
forty four zero forty rapes and other sex crimes. He
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got the nickname the pillowcase rapist because he was using
apparently pillowcases to muffle screams of his victims. Detained as
a sexually violent predator and committed to this Department of
State Hospitals twenty plus years ago and then released from
Coalinga in July of twenty fourteen, assigned to live in
an area around Palmdale, despite the fact that people there
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hated the idea, and then of course violated his conditions.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And it is going to be sent.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Back President Biden, Vice President Harris visiting the southeast today
to get some more look at the damage from Hurricane Helene.
The President will fly over we believe North and South
Carolina today and then Vice president Harris is going to
be in Georgia.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
A couple things coming up by the way this weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I am going to be hosting the Walk to End
Alzheimer's in Irvine Saturday morning. That event starts at eight
in the morning. You can go to the local Orange
County Alzheimer's Association to either sign up or register or
donate however you want to do it. And also Moll
Kelly is going to be I'm seeing an event Saturday night,
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the Blue Door Bash gallop for the Boys and Girls
Club of Carson at SOFI Stadium Saturday night, six pm.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
There's a link to donate.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can fit on some of the auction items that
are there when you go to BGC Carson Boys Girls
Club Boy BGC Carson dot Org.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
On the south.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Side of the one thirty four right in Pasadena, there
appears to be a stack of liquid containing vials and
that liquid appears to be human urine. They have been
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accumulating in that little area because of what some people
in Pasadena refer to as the Ppe bandit. Although they
use a word I'm not even I don't think I'm
supposed to use on the air.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So I shan't, but I can also not say shan't.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
A mystery man has a penchant for placing full bottles
of urine on a specific box, a specific electrical box
on Colorado Boulevard. And they said, for years this thing
has been going on this random electrical box. Now there
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are a couple of movie makers, self appointed documentarians, they say,
who have devoted themselves to figuring out who is doing it.
There's a guy, Derek Milton, dressed as a construction worker
and he's a filmmaker, even though he looks like a
construction guy, came to the side of the one thirty
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four to figure out exactly what's going on. He said,
they have to dress like a construction team because they
have to be incognito to maybe catch this guy in
the act. They don't want to be mistaken by passing
drivers and pedestrians for the person who's actually the PP bandit.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
That would be a real situation, they said.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The disguises are one of the recurring bits in this
six part documentary that they've put on TikTok. The short
films have made minor stars of these two filmmakers, and
the first installment has drawn more than six million views,
which is crazy because they say they've also been recognized
in airports and restaurants, even though somebody doesn't know who
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they are necessarily, but they say, I know you from somewhere.
So they said their goal is not to publicly identify
who the PP bandit is, but to figure out and
understand perhaps the motives of the PP bandit.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
However you would figure that out.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
They do believe it's a man, I mean, obviously, just
in terms of the plumbing and the let's see the
way it is you get urine into a bottle like that.
It's easier for a brother to do it than a
sister to do it, shall we say?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And as Gavin Newsom told us one time.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Not all peepee times are poop poo times, but all
poop poo times are peepee times.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Right, So there's that now.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
They said that there was a thing that maybe this
was a drop off point, maybe the Peepie bandit was
actually in business where he was selling his or someone's
clean urine, and that that was the drop off spot.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like some spy novel.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'll leave it on the Pasadena Water and Power Electrical
box on Colorado Boulevard. It'll be in a UHU bottle
or something like that. Others thought that this thing contained
liquefied dru uggs as a way to do it. Some
people believe that the urine isn't actually urine, so the
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two filmmakers dispelled these doubts by performing a urinalysis and
a drug test on one of the bottles, and they
did find yes, in fact, human urine, not one trace
of drugs, so it was clean. When asked why they
were willing to do a urinalysis on some bottle of urine,
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one of the guys said, I suffer from insomnia. The
other guy says in the video that sorry, not insomnia
and nasmia and nasmia, which means he has no sense
of smell. So the guy without the sense of smell
can crack that thing open and not be bothered by
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the fact that there's a urine smell, very strong urine smell.
So they said that they wanted to figure out all
of what was going on. When a reporter for the
La Times joined them, there were thirteen bottles full of
liquid in varying hues from the worryingly dark amber to
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a hydrated light gold, and they said it was probably
a week's worth of urine. The reasons they were there
were twofold and reading from the part from the piece
in the l Times, it says they were installing new
cameras inside a subway cup, a dryer's ice cream tub,
and a fake shrub. They would place the cameras in
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the vicinity of the electrical box in hopes of capturing
video of the man behind the bottles. The second reason
they were there was to see the handiwork because water
and power there in department. The Department of Water and
Power for Pasadena had installed a pyramid of metal on
top of the electrical box in order to stop the
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band its rain of liquid terror.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The pyramid, a few days later was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Maybe it was pried off using a crowbar, and the
bottles of urine were once again there. Sounds like somebody
either has a very great sense of humor or there's
a weird mental issue going on where this is a
way that this guy gets some joy out of doing
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this and placing his urine on an electrical box for
the world to see. It doesn't make a whole lot
of sense, but it does make some sense. Not that
I would do that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I would take a gatorade bottle. Anyway you got to
get a well, it doesn't matter. I don't want to
get into the specifics, just say gatorade bottle. Justin Warsham's
going to join us in studio. We'll be talking about parenting.
We have what you watching Wednesday coming up a little
bit later in the show. One of the big stories
over the weekend will be that former President Trump is
headed right back to Butler, Pennsylvania, and this is where
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he was shot at back in July. The assassination attempt
was felt pretty deeply there in Butler County, especially considering
there were federal agencies that were pointing at local cops
and local cops who are pointing at federal agencies. He
being Trump, he does have a lot of support there.
Many are expecting a very large crowd at that farm
show property west of town, which is where he was
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when that assassin assassination attempt went down. Some residents have
said that they're still concerned about that. Butler County Commissioner
Kim Geyers she's not going to let any mixed emotions
keep her away from some Saturday's rally. Some manufacturers and
retailers are hoping that President Biden invokes the Taft Hartley
Act of nineteen forty seven as a way to suspend
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a strike by the thousands of dock workers that has
shut down thirty six ports from Maine to Texas. This
is a law that authorizes the president to get a
court order for an eighty day cooling off period for
companies and unions to try to resolve their differences. Biden
has said up to this point he is not going
to intervene in this strike, although that could change, especially
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considering the possibility of it impacting the economy to the
tune of billions of dollars and reversing what we have seen,
which has been a decline in inflation. We could see
that jump back up if this thing lasts for any
significant amount of time. The LAPD has been asking for
the public's help in the last couple of weeks trying
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to find some people involved in a series of flash
mob style robberies at seven elevens here in la and
they have put out different images, some video, some still
images of incidents that happened between July twelfth and September twentieth.
They said fourteen separate robberies across ten different seven elevens
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in the Rampart Division Hollywood Wilshire West, LA divisions, and
in each instance, the group of a couple dozen a
few dozen teenagers it looks like, roll up to the
stores on bicycles in the evening hours, say six, seven,
eight o'clock something like that, and then steal a bunch
of stuff and throw a bunch of the displays onto
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the ground and they leave without paying.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Duh.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They usually consist, they say, between twenty and forty youthful males.
That's a LAPD term youthful males, and they appear to
be teenagers. Witnesses have told authorities that they haven't been hurt,
but they do fear for their safety some of the
physical some of the suspects have physically pushed people, but
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that has not resulted in any injuries, at least no
reported injuries to this point. In a news release that
came out just last week, the LAPD said for the
first time, the string of robberies was connected to one
individual group and that thirteen of those fourteen robberies occurred
on Friday nights. So you can imagine that this maybe
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narrows down the type of suspect or the persons that
would be involved in this. And then during a meeting
of the LA Police Commissioners, the LA Bord of Police
Commissioners and Assistant Chief Blake Chow told the commissioners surveillance
footage and press releases given to the media late last
month had an immediate impact and said that they got
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all kinds of tips that came in from the public
that led to several arrests. He went on to say
that on September twenty sixth, the Organized Retail Crime Task
Force responded to the Northeast area where and this is
the best part of the day. This should make everybody smile.
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A parent brought their juvenile child in who was involved
in a flash robbery.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The child was booked for robbery.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
On September twenty eighth, another parent in the Southwest area
brought their child into the station. That juvenile was booked
for robbery in connection with the seven eleven flash robbery.
September twenty ninth, a similar situation occurred in the seventy
seventh district where a parent turned their child in and
that juvenile booked for robbery. The Assistant Chief Chow added
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that investigators learned through interviews that many of these juveniles
involved in the seven eleven flash robberies were not from
those neighborhoods where the crimes occurred, not a huge surprise.
The Assistant chief said that more arrests are anticipated. The
anonymous tips continue to come in. School resource officers are
also now working to identify some of the other juveniles involved.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I said this to my kids.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Obviously, I made the assumption that my son would more
likely be involved in nefarious actions than my daughter would
be because I'm a I don't know, misogynist, whatever term
you want to use. I also was a teenage boy
at a time it was probably more inclined to break
the law than either one of my sisters was. But
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I said to them, if I believe you're innocent of something,
I will go and defend you to my core. Whatever
it takes, money, resources, whatever we have, whatever strings we
can pull, I will do so if I believe you're innocent.
But if you do something so stupid, and if you
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do something so blatant that I can't defend you in
good conscience, it's all on you. And I said to
my kids multiple times, and they will both tell you
this that they remember me saying this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I don't do bail.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Oh, i'll visit you, I'll come see you in the
lock up, but I don't do bail. If you're mature
enough to make a stupid decision, then you're mature enough
to make your own bail. Now in these cases, chances
are these guys get booked for robbery and then released
on their own recognizance or released to the custody of
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their parents. It's not like they're going to do you know,
two to five up in fulsome like this. In the
event that something like this happens, these are kids. The
LAPD knows. These are dumb kids doing dumb things. At
this point, nobody's been hurt, luckily, so that does diminish
the likelihood that they're going to see jail time. They're
going to be on probation, maybe they spend a couple
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nights in some juvenile facility, whatever it is, which they should,
because this is the thing that needs to happen.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You need to scare people.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You need to scare teenage boys away from a life
of crime where they think they can get away with
this kind of stuff. But the idea that you would
not turn your kid in is abhorrent. If you saw
your kid's face on the video or on a still
image taken from one of these seven to elevens punching
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each other in the arm, thinking that this is the
way that you're going to celebrate a Friday Night is
by destroying a small business like that seven to eleven
arguably not a small business, but a franchise owner is
going to take it in the shorts because of you.
And the thing is some of these stores were hit
multiple times. If you saw your kid there and you
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did not turn them in, then whatever happens to them
is completely on you. They're going to turn into an
absolute drain on society, and it's going to be entirely
your fault. You are the bad person, not just your kid.
We'll do swamp Watch. We have parenting with Justin Warsham
coming up coming up this busy hour in the third
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hour of The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Right after this.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Guys, after watching that debate last night, I think the
only answer is we need.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
A Waltz and advanced campaign.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Screw Trump and.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Common I mean, they did seem to have a lot
in common at least that's what they kept saying last night.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Who lost last night was Donald Trump? Both of the
candidates last night that they made Donald Trump sound like
a grumpy old man who couldn't put thoughts together.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This was a retro version of a presidential debate or
vice presidential debate. This goes back to, you know, the
old days when they would shake hands and they would
be nice to each other and be dignified when they
were giving when they were giving their arguments one way
or the other, and they didn't boil down to personal attacks.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So, you know, that was a nice thing to see.
It was nice that that existed or still does exist.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Over in New York, the NYPD has mobilized cops to
houses of worship around that city. Iran, of course, fired
almost two hundred rockets against Israel yesterday, and this enhanced
deployment of police personnel in New York is set to
extend through the High Holy Days, begins with rash Hashana
at sunset and then includes through October seventh, of course,
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the year anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel which
sparked this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Whole conflict. In the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Seven people were murdered yesterday dozens wounded in a terrorist
attack at a light rail station in Jaffa, right about
the time that the rockets started flying in from Iran.
The two terrorists were shot dead by members of the
municipal security patrol unit and citizens who were using their
personal firearms there in Israel, President Biden is expected to
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travel to both North and South Carolina today to survey
damage from the storm from Hurricane Helene. And it's not
getting any better anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
This is like a Katrina on steroids.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
We have people on oxygen that are completely out now
Burly provided a single twelve hour tank.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
At most. We have babies up there with a formula.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
There's a reporter, Fox Weather reporter Jane Minar, who was
out there in western North Carolina and described what she
saw this morning.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
The debris is incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I did see just a couple of minutes ago, people
on horseback, including a doctor that we're getting up into
the hallers behind me to do welfare checks. As of
where I stand right now, what I know in Wataga
County here in North Carolina, two have been confirmed dead
to landslides, but they are getting their power back and
(02:47):
water boiled water advisories.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Have been lifted.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
We are expecting to see some comments. Obviously, President Biden
made some comments to Joint Bass Andrews before he left
on Air Force one to head south to the Carolinus
to see what's going on. So if he gets there
and makes some comments, we will we'll at least listen
in and see what he's going to say. We know
the Vice President Harris also has taken some time away
(03:11):
from the campaign trail to go down there. The death
toll is now up over one sixty and there is
a concern that we might not know the full death
toll for a few years.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And there's a couple different reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The FEMA administrator Dan Criswell said, we don't know that
anybody could be fully prepared for the amount of flooding
and landslides that they are experiencing right now. Because we're
going to continue to see ongoing power outages, the cell
phone outages, and as the reporter there was mentioning, there's
literally people on horseback trying to find survivors, family members.
(03:48):
We did a couple stories yesterday about how people were
hiking several miles in order to get to their loved ones.
According to the AP, more than one hundred and sixty
storm related fatalities in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee,
and Virginia, but still hundreds of people unaccounted for, and
the number of unaccounted for is expected to go up over.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
The next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There were a couple of a study that was published
in the journal Nature says we could see the numbers
rise for years. They looked at the effects of more
than five hundred tropical storms that have hit the United
States between nineteen thirty and twenty fifteen, and they looked
at the difference in the mortality rates before and after
(04:33):
the storms and tracked what they call excess deaths. You
remember that term, probably from the COVID times. They wanted
to see how many people would die above the usual
monthly average and how long that increased rate of death continued,
and they found that on average, each tropical storm event
(04:54):
caused seven to eleven thousand excess deaths because of the
health effect that persist after initial landfall. I mean, they said,
we thought there would be six months of delayed effects,
maybe a year, but they said it kept going and
it started to decline about fifteen years after the storm.
(05:15):
The impact of a storm like this cannot be understated. Obviously,
the immediate impacts, I mean, since that since that storm
made landfall last week, we're talking about a week later,
almost a week later, and people don't have power, they
don't have natural gas, they don't have gasoline, they don't
have electricity, they don't have water, they don't have the
(05:37):
ability to get around, they don't have communication. And we're
talking about a week later. Now, that's not necessarily going
to cause people to die, because the direct deaths that
are attributed to a storm like this, you get hit
by debris, you're in a car accident, you drown, something
like that. But then you've got indirect deaths, and they
(05:58):
don't often count these indirect deaths when they give an
official death toll. Things like ongoing health problems, economic problems,
social changes, even that are caused by a disaster. So,
for example, this is an example they use for an
indirect death. If someone drains their bank account in order
(06:19):
to rebuild their house or their property or whatever business,
they may not be able to pay for the health
care that they need in the future, or if they
have to relocate, they might not have the same social
network that they rely on for future health emergencies. And
we've talked many, many times, not specifically about storms like this,
(06:39):
but how important a social network is to maintaining your
good health. Then you have the ongoing environmental factors. You
have the continuing danger of environmental factors that are impacted
by storms. The stress of surviving a storm itself may
take a toll, especially if you older, especially if you've
(07:01):
already got some sort of compromised health that you're dealing with.
They said tropical storms contribute to more deaths than those
from motor vehicle accidents or infectious diseases in the eighty
five years that they tracked again, going back to the
going back to nineteen thirty, and they said that builds
on this growing body of work that says that hurricanes
(07:22):
could be significant drivers of public health crises, not just
the days and week or two weeks after a hurricane,
but as long as several years, so we may see
the toll on this continued a rise. Well, a judge
says he is going to take under submission this proposal
to release a sexually violent serial predator known as the
(07:43):
Pillowcase rapist in the Antelope Valley. Our own Michael Monks
is covering the story for us. Michael, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Hey, good morning Gary. Yes, this was a very short hearing,
in spite of all the build up to it and
all the collection of those letters from the community, including
elected officials like County Supervisor Catherine Barger, La County District
Attorney George Gascone. It lasted about twenty minutes, and what
we heard were a lot more arguments against releasing Christopher
Hubbart into the community of Juniper Hills where people have
(08:14):
dealt with the situation before and don't want to deal
with it again. So we even heard the La County
Sheriff's Department say, look, the last time Christopher Hubbart was
released before he was put back in prison because he
was failing some of the you know, the ramifications they
put on.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
His on his release.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
They said we had to go to his house three
times a day because of protests and other disruptions. And
Juniper Hills is even farther away from the Palmdale area
where this happened originally, like it would take hours to
respond to these things over and over. Please don't put
him in Juniper Hills. We don't know what's going to happen.
The judge took everything under advisement and now we await
(08:51):
that ruling. Is there a is there a mechanism for
him to stay in a state facility? I know he
was at Coalinga for.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
A while, the state hospital there, But is there a
mechanism for guys like this where there is no viable
alternative for him to live amongst the public, to just
stay on state property. Well, we have to keep in
mind that the case in La County is specifically about
the location of his release. It's not about whether the
Pillow case rapist is going to get out of prison.
(09:22):
That was a decision that came out of a different
county court in Santa Clara, and in that ruling, the
decision was specifically to place them in La County. So
that's what we're dealing with here, so regardless of what
other mechanisms excuse me, mechanisms may be at play. The
judge in the Hollywood courthouse yesterday made it clear we're
only talking about the location. So if there is somebody
(09:45):
higher up or in another department of the state prison system,
we might hear from them at another time, especially if
Juniper Hills doesn't work out and they start talking about
another alternative. I can't imagine any community rising up and saying, oh, yeah,
that's okay with us. Is there any way to appeal
a rule like this from the judge? In terms of
the local politicians you mentioned, the state county supervisor, the
(10:06):
district attorney, the sheriff's department, they've all had problems with this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
What we've heard so far from folks like that district
attorney sheriff's office was speak out against it. That seems
to be the appeal, not in the legal sense, but
in the public relations sense. Make an appeal to persuade
the judge not to place this person in Juniper Hills.
So this is a very rural area, of course, in
La County. The judge said, listen, I understand I'm taking
(10:34):
all of your notes hundreds of them into consideration here
as we make this decision. But he also noted it's
difficult to place what is considered a sexually violent predator
and SVP because of all the rules around where of
those folks can be located. So it does limit where
you can be in a place like La County. You've
got to find some place out in the sticks. So
(10:55):
we'll just be waiting to see how this plays out.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
In terms of the numbers, they said thousands of rental
properties and only one of them would have fit the
criteria that would have been found exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's the challenge that the judge faces because this guy's
a bad guy, Christopher Hubbard. I mean, there's no question
about that. He's been sentenced three times over three different
decades for rapes and other sexual offenses, and was released
to the Palmdale area several years ago, and you know,
had to undergo some tests and some light detector tests.
Did not reoffend in the violent sense, but did fail
(11:31):
some of those examinations, and so they put him back
into a controlled population. But you know, now he's seventy four,
and folks still seem to be concerned whether he could
fit inside their community.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, all right, Michael, thank you appreciate it. Mike Pleacher, Gary,
you mentioned the Christopher Hubbard was convicted in nineteen seventy three.
Was he would have been twenty three at the time
nineteen seventy three. He was convicted in nineteen eighty two.
He was convicted in nineteen ninety in La count and
up in northern California for a series of at least
forty four zero forty rapes and other sex crimes. He
(12:07):
got the nickname the pillowcase rapist because he was using
apparently pillowcases to muffle screams of his victims. Detained as
a sexually violent predator and committed to this Department of
State Hospitals twenty plus years ago and then released from
Coalinga in July of twenty fourteen, assigned to live in
an area around Palmdale, despite the fact that people there
(12:30):
hated the idea, and then of course violated his conditions.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And it is going to be sent.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Back President Biden, Vice President Harris visiting the southeast today
to get some more look at the damage from Hurricane Helene.
The President will fly over we believe North and South
Carolina today and then Vice president Harris is going to
be in Georgia.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
A couple things coming up by the way this weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I am going to be hosting the Walk to End
Alzheimer's in Irvine Saturday morning. That event starts at eight
in the morning. You can go to the local Orange
County Alzheimer's Association to either sign up or register or
donate however you want to do it. And also Moll
Kelly is going to be I'm seeing an event Saturday night,
(13:14):
the Blue Door Bash gallop for the Boys and Girls
Club of Carson at SOFI Stadium Saturday night, six pm.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
There's a link to donate.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can fit on some of the auction items that
are there when you go to BGC Carson Boys Girls
Club Boy BGC Carson dot Org.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
On the south.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Side of the one thirty four right in Pasadena, there
appears to be a stack of liquid containing vials and
that liquid appears to be human urine. They have been
(13:56):
accumulating in that little area because of what some people
in Pasadena refer to as the Ppe bandit. Although they
use a word I'm not even I don't think I'm
supposed to use on the air.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So I shan't, but I can also not say shan't.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
A mystery man has a penchant for placing full bottles
of urine on a specific box, a specific electrical box
on Colorado Boulevard. And they said, for years this thing
has been going on this random electrical box. Now there
(14:31):
are a couple of movie makers, self appointed documentarians, they say,
who have devoted themselves to figuring out who is doing it.
There's a guy, Derek Milton, dressed as a construction worker
and he's a filmmaker, even though he looks like a
construction guy, came to the side of the one thirty
(14:53):
four to figure out exactly what's going on. He said,
they have to dress like a construction team because they
have to be incognito to maybe catch this guy in
the act. They don't want to be mistaken by passing
drivers and pedestrians for the person who's actually the PP bandit.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
That would be a real situation, they said.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The disguises are one of the recurring bits in this
six part documentary that they've put on TikTok. The short
films have made minor stars of these two filmmakers, and
the first installment has drawn more than six million views,
which is crazy because they say they've also been recognized
in airports and restaurants, even though somebody doesn't know who
(15:40):
they are necessarily, but they say, I know you from somewhere.
So they said their goal is not to publicly identify
who the PP bandit is, but to figure out and
understand perhaps the motives of the PP bandit.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
However you would figure that out.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
They do believe it's a man, I mean, obviously, just
in terms of the plumbing and the let's see the
way it is you get urine into a bottle like that.
It's easier for a brother to do it than a
sister to do it, shall we say?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And as Gavin Newsom told us one time.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Not all peepee times are poop poo times, but all
poop poo times are peepee times.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Right, So there's that now.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
They said that there was a thing that maybe this
was a drop off point, maybe the Peepie bandit was
actually in business where he was selling his or someone's
clean urine, and that that was the drop off spot.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like some spy novel.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'll leave it on the Pasadena Water and Power Electrical
box on Colorado Boulevard. It'll be in a UHU bottle
or something like that. Others thought that this thing contained
liquefied dru uggs as a way to do it. Some
people believe that the urine isn't actually urine, so the
(17:06):
two filmmakers dispelled these doubts by performing a urinalysis and
a drug test on one of the bottles, and they
did find yes, in fact, human urine, not one trace
of drugs, so it was clean. When asked why they
were willing to do a urinalysis on some bottle of urine,
(17:28):
one of the guys said, I suffer from insomnia. The
other guy says in the video that sorry, not insomnia
and nasmia and nasmia, which means he has no sense
of smell. So the guy without the sense of smell
can crack that thing open and not be bothered by
(17:50):
the fact that there's a urine smell, very strong urine smell.
So they said that they wanted to figure out all
of what was going on. When a reporter for the
La Times joined them, there were thirteen bottles full of
liquid in varying hues from the worryingly dark amber to
(18:11):
a hydrated light gold, and they said it was probably
a week's worth of urine. The reasons they were there
were twofold and reading from the part from the piece
in the l Times, it says they were installing new
cameras inside a subway cup, a dryer's ice cream tub,
and a fake shrub. They would place the cameras in
(18:32):
the vicinity of the electrical box in hopes of capturing
video of the man behind the bottles. The second reason
they were there was to see the handiwork because water
and power there in department. The Department of Water and
Power for Pasadena had installed a pyramid of metal on
top of the electrical box in order to stop the
(18:54):
band its rain of liquid terror.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The pyramid, a few days later was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Maybe it was pried off using a crowbar, and the
bottles of urine were once again there. Sounds like somebody
either has a very great sense of humor or there's
a weird mental issue going on where this is a
way that this guy gets some joy out of doing
(19:20):
this and placing his urine on an electrical box for
the world to see. It doesn't make a whole lot
of sense, but it does make some sense. Not that
I would do that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I would take a gatorade bottle. Anyway you got to
get a well, it doesn't matter. I don't want to
get into the specifics, just say gatorade bottle. Justin Warsham's
going to join us in studio. We'll be talking about parenting.
We have what you watching Wednesday coming up a little
bit later in the show. One of the big stories
over the weekend will be that former President Trump is
headed right back to Butler, Pennsylvania, and this is where
(19:56):
he was shot at back in July. The assassination attempt
was felt pretty deeply there in Butler County, especially considering
there were federal agencies that were pointing at local cops
and local cops who are pointing at federal agencies. He
being Trump, he does have a lot of support there.
Many are expecting a very large crowd at that farm
show property west of town, which is where he was
(20:19):
when that assassin assassination attempt went down. Some residents have
said that they're still concerned about that. Butler County Commissioner
Kim Geyers she's not going to let any mixed emotions
keep her away from some Saturday's rally. Some manufacturers and
retailers are hoping that President Biden invokes the Taft Hartley
Act of nineteen forty seven as a way to suspend
(20:41):
a strike by the thousands of dock workers that has
shut down thirty six ports from Maine to Texas. This
is a law that authorizes the president to get a
court order for an eighty day cooling off period for
companies and unions to try to resolve their differences. Biden
has said up to this point he is not going
to intervene in this strike, although that could change, especially
(21:04):
considering the possibility of it impacting the economy to the
tune of billions of dollars and reversing what we have seen,
which has been a decline in inflation. We could see
that jump back up if this thing lasts for any
significant amount of time. The LAPD has been asking for
the public's help in the last couple of weeks trying
(21:25):
to find some people involved in a series of flash
mob style robberies at seven elevens here in la and
they have put out different images, some video, some still
images of incidents that happened between July twelfth and September twentieth.
They said fourteen separate robberies across ten different seven elevens
(21:50):
in the Rampart Division Hollywood Wilshire West, LA divisions, and
in each instance, the group of a couple dozen a
few dozen teenagers it looks like, roll up to the
stores on bicycles in the evening hours, say six, seven,
eight o'clock something like that, and then steal a bunch
of stuff and throw a bunch of the displays onto
(22:11):
the ground and they leave without paying.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Duh.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They usually consist, they say, between twenty and forty youthful males.
That's a LAPD term youthful males, and they appear to
be teenagers. Witnesses have told authorities that they haven't been hurt,
but they do fear for their safety some of the
physical some of the suspects have physically pushed people, but
(22:37):
that has not resulted in any injuries, at least no
reported injuries to this point. In a news release that
came out just last week, the LAPD said for the
first time, the string of robberies was connected to one
individual group and that thirteen of those fourteen robberies occurred
on Friday nights. So you can imagine that this maybe
(23:02):
narrows down the type of suspect or the persons that
would be involved in this. And then during a meeting
of the LA Police Commissioners, the LA Bord of Police
Commissioners and Assistant Chief Blake Chow told the commissioners surveillance
footage and press releases given to the media late last
month had an immediate impact and said that they got
(23:23):
all kinds of tips that came in from the public
that led to several arrests. He went on to say
that on September twenty sixth, the Organized Retail Crime Task
Force responded to the Northeast area where and this is
the best part of the day. This should make everybody smile.
(23:44):
A parent brought their juvenile child in who was involved
in a flash robbery.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The child was booked for robbery.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
On September twenty eighth, another parent in the Southwest area
brought their child into the station. That juvenile was booked
for robbery in connection with the seven eleven flash robbery.
September twenty ninth, a similar situation occurred in the seventy
seventh district where a parent turned their child in and
that juvenile booked for robbery. The Assistant Chief Chow added
(24:18):
that investigators learned through interviews that many of these juveniles
involved in the seven eleven flash robberies were not from
those neighborhoods where the crimes occurred, not a huge surprise.
The Assistant chief said that more arrests are anticipated. The
anonymous tips continue to come in. School resource officers are
also now working to identify some of the other juveniles involved.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I said this to my kids.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Obviously, I made the assumption that my son would more
likely be involved in nefarious actions than my daughter would
be because I'm a I don't know, misogynist, whatever term
you want to use. I also was a teenage boy
at a time it was probably more inclined to break
the law than either one of my sisters was. But
(25:07):
I said to them, if I believe you're innocent of something,
I will go and defend you to my core. Whatever
it takes, money, resources, whatever we have, whatever strings we
can pull, I will do so if I believe you're innocent.
But if you do something so stupid, and if you
(25:30):
do something so blatant that I can't defend you in
good conscience, it's all on you. And I said to
my kids multiple times, and they will both tell you
this that they remember me saying this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I don't do bail.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Oh, i'll visit you, I'll come see you in the
lock up, but I don't do bail. If you're mature
enough to make a stupid decision, then you're mature enough
to make your own bail. Now in these cases, chances
are these guys get booked for robbery and then released
on their own recognizance or released to the custody of
(26:08):
their parents. It's not like they're going to do you know,
two to five up in fulsome like this. In the
event that something like this happens, these are kids. The
LAPD knows. These are dumb kids doing dumb things. At
this point, nobody's been hurt, luckily, so that does diminish
the likelihood that they're going to see jail time. They're
going to be on probation, maybe they spend a couple
(26:28):
nights in some juvenile facility, whatever it is, which they should,
because this is the thing that needs to happen.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You need to scare people.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You need to scare teenage boys away from a life
of crime where they think they can get away with
this kind of stuff. But the idea that you would
not turn your kid in is abhorrent. If you saw
your kid's face on the video or on a still
image taken from one of these seven to elevens punching
(27:01):
each other in the arm, thinking that this is the
way that you're going to celebrate a Friday Night is
by destroying a small business like that seven to eleven
arguably not a small business, but a franchise owner is
going to take it in the shorts because of you.
And the thing is some of these stores were hit
multiple times. If you saw your kid there and you
(27:23):
did not turn them in, then whatever happens to them
is completely on you. They're going to turn into an
absolute drain on society, and it's going to be entirely
your fault. You are the bad person, not just your kid.
We'll do swamp Watch. We have parenting with Justin Warsham
coming up coming up this busy hour in the third
(27:45):
hour of The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
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