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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Swamp Watch is exactly how
it sounds today as we think about the possibility that
these hurricanes could be the October surprise. It's where we
kick it off.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The government doesn't.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Work, man, go make It's like a reality TV show.
A bad doos always.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, DC.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Hey, Joey, A town all too clearly built on a
swamp and in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Still a swamp. I have a batch of malarkeybody.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Said, drained the swamp.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I said, Oh that's so, you know the thing.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
A couple different versions of the way this is going
to play out over these next couple of weeks, as
not only Hurricane Helene from two weeks ago, but obviously
Hurricane Milton, which is bearing down on the west coast
of Florida. And it's become political, whether we like it
or not. Joining us now talk more about this. Joe
Khalil for the Washington Correspondent, I should say for news Nation,
(01:05):
and this is becoming I guess to use your term
of political storm, Joe, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Yeah, it has been, and we're seeing both sides now
make campaign hey of political excuse me? Have natural disasters
something that we didn't tolerate in our politics. Just a
couple of years ago. It would have been seen as
distasteful and campaigns would have avoided it. Now and again,
I do want to stress we're seeing this to an
extent on both sides of the campaign. Now. You've got
(01:35):
the Trump campaign in a number of different instances talking
about the Biden Harris response to the storms in the southeast.
You've even got some Republicans pushing back on the certain
Trump claims, saying that some of it is misinformation, disinformation
that people are not receiving money, they're not able to
(01:55):
receive more than seven hundred and fifty dollars, which is false,
and that victim of Hellene and of Hurricane Milton are
maybe not going to get aid because too much FEMA
money has gone to migrants, which is also a false claim.
FEMA has paid money out to migrants, but it's a
separate pool of funding. Then what would go to hurricane victims,
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and those victims will get paid out on the other
side of the eye, You've also got the Harris campaign
now paying for digital ads that are basically hitting Donald
Trump for his handling of wildfires back in California when
he was president. So it does sort of cut both ways.
And you know, again, this is sort of a third
(02:36):
rail in politics that years ago would not have been
tolerated or accepted. Kind of over the last few years
we've sort of come to an uncharted territory in this sense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now, well, then there's the argument that the administration has
failed to provide relief in North Carolina, a state that
Trump handily won in twenty twenty. I believe all but
one county there, that these are people whose roads were
washed away, and how are they going to you know,
mail in their ballots or get to a polling place
(03:07):
or will the road will things be put back together
in time?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Yeah, and you know, that's the that's the big concern.
I think the question, you know, practically is if their
storm creates barriers for people roads being blocked or you know,
people without homes and all of a sudden have to vote.
And it's become more of a challenge that is a
challenge for local, for state and for the federal response
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together to try to find solutions for so that would
be a mix of Republicans and Democrats working together. What
you would like to see theoretically, are whether you've got
a D or an R by your name for the
work to just come first and the victims to come
first and not to have all this noise and misinformation
and all of that kind of thing. The Republican Congressman
(03:57):
Chuck Edwards from North Carolina recently put out a whole
list of myths that he debunked again Republican, simply because
he said, too many of his constituents have believed some myths,
and some of them have refused even to try to
get benefits from FEMA that they are entitled to because
they think, oh, I'm only going to get X amount,
(04:18):
when in reality that's not the case. But again, you
can see how the politicization of an actual disaster has
serious consequences for victims and guys. I'm gonna apologize for
the noise behind me. I am at at Trump rallies
as we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I was just going to say, where are you? That
sounds like a rally.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah, Well, I'll try to be as loud as I
can for you.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We saw a little bit of this before.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean this specifically, Milton hitting so close to election day,
just a couple of weeks away. Now, the reaction to
it might not be baked into the results from November fifth,
But if you look a couple of years from now,
because recovery is going to take a long time, there's
a chance that the reaction to the political reaction to
what we see over these next couple of weeks and months,
(05:06):
we don't see the political reaction until a couple of
years from now in the next midterm election.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
That's absolutely true. And even if there is a political
reaction in November, but we may not know what it
is until the election is over, until we see results
and we think, oh wow, maybe there were a lot
of people who you might have felt one way or
another about the response, and you held the Biden administration accountable,
for example, with their votes or or vice versa. You know,
(05:34):
we don't know. Those questions are not clear. But what
we do know is that administrations, no matter what side
of the aisle they come from, are often judged properly
by how they handle crises. That is a big way
that the American people can viscerally see and then judge
how they think their leaders are doing. So this is
(05:55):
a I mean President Biden is in office. If this
is a good recovery moving forward, you'll have to own
so be able to own that. If if it's a
not so good one, he'll have to own that, and
we may know how voters feel about that once we
get election results in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Joe, thank you so much for making time for us
and your busy day. Appreciate your insight there.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Happy to do it always. Glad to talk to you guys.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Joe Khalil, their Washington correspondent for News Nation. Again he
happens to be in Pennsylvania. I guess the Trump campaign
is there again, second time in just a few days,
because give you an idea of how important it is.
But Trump is going to be in Coachella this weekend,
so I'm not mistaken. There's a rally out there that'll
be in lace hot environment for him.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Coming up next, I do want to quickly revisit the
firestorm around CBS News right now and what's going on,
as it's been unearthed that they heavily edited that sixty
minutes an interview with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
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Speaker 7 (07:01):
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(07:22):
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Speaker 1 (07:24):
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Speaker 8 (07:43):
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My poor wife shampoo conditioner, a face so her feet soap.
She has two sponges and like four other products. I
have no idea what therefore. And she gets out of
the shower and she put from her forehead all the
way down her feet. Smart man, I'm glad I'm not
(08:03):
a woman. She looks good, smells really good. But man,
that's a lot of work. I felt bad for you.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
She looks good, smells good.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We like different things for different areas. We like products,
women like products. That is highly true, it's very accurate.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But we also did get some reaction to John's interview
with Trump yesterday.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, great show. Just tossing my two
cents in with that interview that John did with Trump yesterday.
I'm not really a big Trump supporter, but I just
wanted to say that I was pretty surprised at how
well that interview went yesterday. Yeah, it was great to
just listen to him in a raw format, just straight across.
He was really informed, knew a lot about California, which
was shocking, and overall it was really well done.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So good job, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And it's smart for Trump to do these interviews like that,
because there's there's another element where we all know John Cobelt.
Everyone listening, you've been listening to them for years, you
know him, We know him personally. When you're listening to
these candidates talk to someone you know, huge points are scored,
I think because you're you know, the other person in
(09:11):
the conversation it's it's more you're connecting more to that
candidate in that moment than you would watching them on
CBS News or Fox News or whatever. Yeah, it's a
smart it's a smart tactic to go on local talk radio.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Think about the reaction to JD Vance in the long
form debate, the long form, I mean the longest form
that we had seen him. Arguably that a lot of
people's opinions about him were changed because they said, listen,
I had an opinion of jd Vance because of what
I had been hearing, or the things that people were
making fun of, or the memes of him going in
(09:46):
and having an absolutely awful, awkward interaction with a donut
store worker. Those types of things are the things that
people get known for. But when you sit down and
listen to what they say, or read what they write,
or you know, hear their unedited answers key, then you
get to hear a little bit more about who they are.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Now, this is Alan from Monrovia. I always enjoy your show,
but I listened to John talking to Trump yesterday and
Trump actually managed to complete a couple of sentences. But
he does tend to get Newsom's nam wrong. He calls
them new scum. Has anybody else noticed that?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He does that on purpose.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, he calls him news scum, news scum.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I just wanted to briefly play again the difference between
the teased answer of Kamala Harris on Israel when she
did the sixteen minutes interview. There's a face the nation,
little blurb that they put out on Sunday before the
interview aired on Monday, and to me, the fact that
they changed it, they altered it, they edited it. Whatever
(10:54):
where was that pressure coming from to do so? They
changed the answer that they went on the air with
to tease thee they change that. So was that pressure
coming from within CBS News coming from the Kamala campaign?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Two options?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The third option, well, an option that fits under the
number one title that it came within CBS was let's
just get to the point for her, you know, which
is still not the right way to do an interview.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Like that's that's a fair argument.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But like, well, why would we give her I think
it's the first one I'm going to play for you
is about thirty seconds. Why would we give her thirty
seconds to stumble all over herself when we could do
it in fifteen seconds and she gets more to the point.
This is again, like you said, the first one that
was played Sunday morning to tease the upcoming.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You know, now that you say it like that, I'm
remembering doing interviews as a reporter and editing them to
where they get to the point. If someone's rambling, I
get that is on the cutting room floor, right, So
when you look at it that way, it's not as nefarious.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, it's not nefarious.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But if one of the greatest of a candidate, regardless
of who it is, is that they can't get to
the point on a very important world issue like the
problems in the Middle East, that's true. That's something that
needs to be pointed out. They would do the same
thing with Trump, and I would want them to. If
he's weak on a topic, show that. I mean that
(12:20):
that weakness is something that he's going to have to
live with, and in this case, she's gonna have to live.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening well.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
Bill, The work that we have done has resulted in
a number of movements in that region by Israel that
were very much prompted by or a result of many things,
including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Okay, she could have just said, but they do listen
to us, and they have done things to us or
for us.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's already started.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Actually he just went away.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I guess, of course he did.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I looked and there he was and he was talking.
And now he's gone.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We are waiting for a Governor DeSantis out of Florida
for the latest update before before Hurricane Milton hits, and
then just to follow it. This is this, This is
the answer that CBS did put on Monday night on
sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening,
same question.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
the United States to be clear about where we stand
on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Two very different answers. Because when I heard that answer,
listening to that interviewer thought wow, she was ready for it.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That, but that's the magic of editing, the magic of editing,
but also the the delusion of it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Perhaps all right, Justin Worsham, host of the Dad Podcast,
on Deck, we'll be talking about raising resilient kids when
we return.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand, k if
I am.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Let's talk about resilient kids.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
What about the boo dooo doo do?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
How did you do that? That?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
That was great?
Speaker 12 (14:14):
Like you guys should keep these rehearsals going. They're working,
they're paying off you and Robin those extra meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
They're working there four with Robin and the next day.
Speaker 12 (14:24):
So I'm gonna go do dude. She goes, Yeah, when
you do it, I'm gonna come in with the song.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Dude, I'm gonna hit go.
Speaker 12 (14:32):
I'm gonna cut out the first duo in the song.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So you do the first two?
Speaker 12 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh this is good.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
This is great.
Speaker 12 (14:37):
They bounces up down their seat. Great resiliency in kids. Yeah,
who doesn't love it? Is it baked in?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When you cook them or you have to sprinkle on
top when they're done.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
Here's what's interesting, Like you're done, not when they're eighteen,
but when they decide to leave. You're like, hold on,
let me get the resiliency.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Out of the when they're yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12 (15:01):
It's funny because the research that we see is about
like we've talked about it, that there's like over four
hundred psychological traits that your kids are born with that
you have really no control over and you can't really
change them. Brains can be rewired, though, but as kids
get older, it's their peer group that becomes more of
an influence than you as their parent. Like I think,
if I'm remembering correctly, by the time the kids twelve,
(15:23):
you have less than three percent influence on your child
at that point in their life. But we get these
smart people that like to say these I'm smart, these
are the things that I think will make your kid
more resilient, more successful. And it's interesting if it wasn't
for the fact that I saw this article come up.
I think it was at least four times in different
iterations to me, which says that as a parenting article
(15:45):
that's kind of trending, I probably want to skipped on
it because I think a lot of it is garbage.
Like the number one thing is building trust, and it
talks about how important it is to build trust, not
not like I don't understand how to build trust with
my child.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's interesting because they the way that they describe trust
is that once your child believes you will be there
for them, providing support no matter what which is According
to all the parenting experts that I talked to, that's
not building trust.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
That's secure attachment. That's the real parenting term for that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
That's that's a presence.
Speaker 12 (16:14):
Yes, it's not trust because and this is why I
worry about these kinds of things, is that trust implies
that I have to be overly honest to my child
about everything, and I don't. I also don't know that
that's true. Likes there's things that, yes, you could be
honest with your kids about, but there's also things that they're.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Age, yes, exactly, And I think that the word trust
a lot of times would connote some sort of level
relationship or equal relationship, and that's not the way, at
least very early on, that's not the way the parent
child relationship exists.
Speaker 12 (16:48):
Yes, And then they go back to that through each
of these. So the next one is regulating emotions, which
it's interesting because what they talk about is they're saying
that you basically have to allow them to feel things,
and I again, like, these are blanketed statements that I
don't think you can't just allow a two year old
to feel things like that's just not a healthy world.
(17:08):
Because at that point in a child's development, the emotional
side of their brain is far more developed than the
logical part of their brain, and it's actually your job
to help them connect the two. And so like, again,
maybe that's what it is they're kind of hinting at,
is teaching them, but they didn't go into that kind
of depth in my opinion, and it just made me
feel like a lot of this is just misleading.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
BS.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
When does the logic kick in the brain?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Jury's still out. I got another year then, yeah, Justin
and I.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Are still emotional.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Did you purposely pick that number?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No?
Speaker 12 (17:44):
I read it, so I'm with you. Now let's go
to a podcast sit And this is obious done to
me from what I understand what I remember in the
books I read and the guests I had, it's around
eight to ten, and that age is when the that's
when the logical part of the brain starts really kicking in.
But then it also gets all tore up when they
become teenagers.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, developing independence is the third.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
This is the only one that to me makes total
sense as far as resilience, is that this really is
speaking to the idea that you have to let your
kids go out there and experience life, but they don't
go into it in the detail that.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I wish they would.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
That really, what I think it is to make a
kid resilient is that you they have to give them
that dependence, independence to make choices and have failures and
deal with the consequences of those failures instead of trying
to remove them from them.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
That so many.
Speaker 12 (18:32):
I've come across kids that can't decide what they want
to eat, and I think a lot of it has
to do with the fact of that that part of
their brain just isn't used to working.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
They don't have any practice.
Speaker 12 (18:42):
Like I had a conversation with my sixteen year old
just last week where I told them, I said, well,
part of the reason why I'm not telling you what
to do about giving your going and getting your driver's
license is because I want you to feel the consequences
of you have a plan, and I want you to
feel how that plan works, because at this point in
your life, you're not listening to me anyway.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, and it's all so in a situation like that.
You're not the first kid that this has ever happened to.
You're not the first person to have ever turned sixteen
and gotten the driver's license.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
There's a system.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's not that hard to get your feet in that
stream of and get moving. But there's such a fear
of But how do I, I mean even it. Listen,
when we had got our driver's licenses, we had to
get a pamphlet from somewhere or a booklet from.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
The DMV and figure and it kind of to read
it the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It would take you through the steps on how to
do it, but we had to go somewhere and do something.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They could They could.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Literally go, hey, and that's how do I get a
driver's license? And it does all the work for them.
Eighteen thousand, Alexas, just start telling people right now.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I helped you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Find your Department of Motor Fils.
Speaker 12 (19:50):
Connecting to others I think makes sense, like you want
them to understand how to have relationships, and then being
understood is another one that I just didn't That your
child needs to be to feel fully accepted in order
to like and love themselves, and your own self awareness
as a parent can help. According to client, the only
thing works more than being understood was to have it
(20:12):
say being seen. Yeah, I just I don't I really
don't think this helps kids.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I really truly don't.
Speaker 12 (20:20):
I think that they that in today's modern parenting, you
need to let them kind of there's as they get
into teenage years, you have to start to safely with
a leash, kind of let them start to experience their
own life and pick and choose those stumbles that they
can have, and that's the best way to make them resilient.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
All right, Coming up next, the Big lie of parenting?
What is the Big Law?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's a heavy Shannon segment.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I think, oh, okay, okay, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
That she's really disappointed. You can't play waffle or what
Gary and shann.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I'm playing strands.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 12 (20:58):
If anybody within the sound of my voice knows somebody
who lives by themselves and you are their friend, get
an advanced health care directive, because if something happens to them,
you can't get access to their remains without that health
care directive. You don't need to have a trust or
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You can execute it with two people signing it. As
long as the person who is going to be the
(21:20):
agent isn't one of the witnesses, then you're fine.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I don't want an opportunity for us to talk about
the new estate planning segment that we're going to be
doing on the show on a regular basis. Right now,
we know too much of it. That's the problem, all right.
Justin Warsham has joined us. We're talking about parenting for
the most part, and this issue of a.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Death certificates you got to get a bunch of oh yeah,
everyone needs one.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Why women are rejecting the roles of mother and caretaker.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
There's a subhead like headline within this article. This is
from Your Tango, which is like a in my opinion,
a very feminist website. I'm not saying that as a negative.
I'm always afraid of I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Even know what that means anymore.
Speaker 12 (22:01):
Okay, great, that makes me so much better, because I
don't think I do either. But it says with women
increasingly unwilling to act as servants, childbearers and providers, people
are starting to grapple with the implications and it, as
a guy like that hits me very weird because I
don't think I've ever seen a situation where I felt
like a woman was a servant like in that regard.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean, sure, maybe you could.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Argue you wouldn't. No man will ever think that the
woman is the servant. But she does so much that
you don't even know about.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's what it is, and that's how.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Women can feel that way, like they're your servant. Like
they do everything. They cook, they clean, they take care
of the kids, and they don't have any time for themselves.
Everything's accounted for. Their whole day is accounted for, and
they're serving not themselves. So that makes them a servant.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Ah, that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
You don't need a woman'splain servanthood to us. I believe
she is for yourself familiar place.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, this is funny because yesterday we just I don't
even I don't even hear those words when they're spoken
to me. Yesterday we did a story about China and
government workers going door to door and asking women, are
you pregnant yet? At your timetable? When are you going
to get pregnant? Because the economy is going to suffer
so much from women not having kids.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
It's the birth rate is on.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
A huge decline right but so I'm curious, Shannon, do
you get a lot of people talking to you about.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Why don't you want to have kids? Why? Why aren't
you having kids? Or aren't you worried?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
You know?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Do they Do you get a lot of that?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, because I'm kind of aged out of that really,
But like in my thirties, it was are you going
to have kids? Or what are you thinking? Is your
mind changed? And my response has always been the same,
and it's the truth. I kept waiting to feel that
what's it right? And I didn't and I didn't want
to have kids if I didn't want kids one hundred
and twenty percent.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, did you?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well different?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I don't know if this is too deep on that.
Did you want to want to have kids?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I mean you said you waited for it, like you
knew that there was other people had talked about it,
I assume, and you had girlfriends that talked about it,
and when they had kids, they're like, this is what
I dreamed it would be, and that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Never that that never happened. I never heard that from anybody.
And now I get the thing I get the most
from women my age is just it's all refreshing. It's
like a new generation of feminism. Maybe it's like my
kid's an a hole or my oldest is such an
a hole right now, Like I hear that. I heard
(24:36):
that like three times in one week last week.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I love that, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The refreshing honesty of like, God, he or she is
a real freaking problem because this and that and that,
and it's like, wow, you know there growing up there
was I think our parents probably they didn't overshare that
kind of stuff about if they had a problem child
or whatever. And now it's not taboo. It's talked about,
(25:00):
and it's making it more and more like I did
the right thing.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Yeah, I'm just baffled by the idea that people care
so much about what other people are doing in that regard,
Like why would you ever as a person, I literally
wanted to be a father as a child.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I knew I wanted to have a family when I
was a kid.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You do know that, Yeah, pretty young. I never liked
having baby dolls like that was always weird to me.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And that's and that's what I mean. I don't but
I don't want people having kids that don't want kids.
I only want people.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
What they want exactly.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
That's better for everybody.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
By the way, did you have the thing at the
high school where you had to take care of an
ag for a week?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I never I know there was.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Giving like a slip saying Shannon shouldn't do this.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, or maybe that's why you just hand the egg
back and just be like, I'll take the air.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Just take the egg and crack it on my forehead.
I guess it's sober.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I had the balls to do when I was in
high school.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Just I thought it's so connected to me being a
parent in reality, but it would be so much funnier
just be like, thank you, drop it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
There, didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh that's dark. Well, justin thank you, thank you. Welcome
for the dark ending.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Swamp Watch is exactly how
it sounds today as we think about the possibility that
these hurricanes could be the October surprise. It's where we
kick it off.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The government doesn't.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Work, man, go make It's like a reality TV show.
A bad doos always.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, DC.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Hey, Joey, A town all too clearly built on a
swamp and in so many ways.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Still a swamp. I have a batch of malarkeybody.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Said, drained the swamp.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I said, Oh that's so, you know the thing.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
A couple different versions of the way this is going
to play out over these next couple of weeks, as
not only Hurricane Helene from two weeks ago, but obviously
Hurricane Milton, which is bearing down on the west coast
of Florida. And it's become political, whether we like it
or not. Joining us now talk more about this. Joe
Khalil for the Washington Correspondent, I should say for news Nation,
(01:05):
and this is becoming I guess to use your term
of political storm, Joe, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Yeah, it has been, and we're seeing both sides now
make campaign hey of political excuse me? Have natural disasters
something that we didn't tolerate in our politics. Just a
couple of years ago. It would have been seen as
distasteful and campaigns would have avoided it. Now and again,
I do want to stress we're seeing this to an
extent on both sides of the campaign. Now. You've got
(01:35):
the Trump campaign in a number of different instances talking
about the Biden Harris response to the storms in the southeast.
You've even got some Republicans pushing back on the certain
Trump claims, saying that some of it is misinformation, disinformation
that people are not receiving money, they're not able to
(01:55):
receive more than seven hundred and fifty dollars, which is false,
and that victim of Hellene and of Hurricane Milton are
maybe not going to get aid because too much FEMA
money has gone to migrants, which is also a false claim.
FEMA has paid money out to migrants, but it's a
separate pool of funding. Then what would go to hurricane victims,
(02:16):
and those victims will get paid out on the other
side of the eye, You've also got the Harris campaign
now paying for digital ads that are basically hitting Donald
Trump for his handling of wildfires back in California when
he was president. So it does sort of cut both ways.
And you know, again, this is sort of a third
(02:36):
rail in politics that years ago would not have been
tolerated or accepted. Kind of over the last few years
we've sort of come to an uncharted territory in this sense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now, well, then there's the argument that the administration has
failed to provide relief in North Carolina, a state that
Trump handily won in twenty twenty. I believe all but
one county there, that these are people whose roads were
washed away, and how are they going to you know,
mail in their ballots or get to a polling place
(03:07):
or will the road will things be put back together
in time?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Yeah, and you know, that's the that's the big concern.
I think the question, you know, practically is if their
storm creates barriers for people roads being blocked or you know,
people without homes and all of a sudden have to vote.
And it's become more of a challenge that is a
challenge for local, for state and for the federal response
(03:34):
together to try to find solutions for so that would
be a mix of Republicans and Democrats working together. What
you would like to see theoretically, are whether you've got
a D or an R by your name for the
work to just come first and the victims to come
first and not to have all this noise and misinformation
and all of that kind of thing. The Republican Congressman
(03:57):
Chuck Edwards from North Carolina recently put out a whole
list of myths that he debunked again Republican, simply because
he said, too many of his constituents have believed some myths,
and some of them have refused even to try to
get benefits from FEMA that they are entitled to because
they think, oh, I'm only going to get X amount,
(04:18):
when in reality that's not the case. But again, you
can see how the politicization of an actual disaster has
serious consequences for victims and guys. I'm gonna apologize for
the noise behind me. I am at at Trump rallies
as we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I was just going to say, where are you? That
sounds like a rally.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah, Well, I'll try to be as loud as I
can for you.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We saw a little bit of this before.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean this specifically, Milton hitting so close to election day,
just a couple of weeks away. Now, the reaction to
it might not be baked into the results from November fifth,
But if you look a couple of years from now,
because recovery is going to take a long time, there's
a chance that the reaction to the political reaction to
what we see over these next couple of weeks and months,
(05:06):
we don't see the political reaction until a couple of
years from now in the next midterm election.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
That's absolutely true. And even if there is a political
reaction in November, but we may not know what it
is until the election is over, until we see results
and we think, oh wow, maybe there were a lot
of people who you might have felt one way or
another about the response, and you held the Biden administration accountable,
for example, with their votes or or vice versa. You know,
(05:34):
we don't know. Those questions are not clear. But what
we do know is that administrations, no matter what side
of the aisle they come from, are often judged properly
by how they handle crises. That is a big way
that the American people can viscerally see and then judge
how they think their leaders are doing. So this is
(05:55):
a I mean President Biden is in office. If this
is a good recovery moving forward, you'll have to own
so be able to own that. If if it's a
not so good one, he'll have to own that, and
we may know how voters feel about that once we
get election results in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Joe, thank you so much for making time for us
and your busy day. Appreciate your insight there.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Happy to do it always. Glad to talk to you guys.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Joe Khalil, their Washington correspondent for News Nation. Again he
happens to be in Pennsylvania. I guess the Trump campaign
is there again, second time in just a few days,
because give you an idea of how important it is.
But Trump is going to be in Coachella this weekend,
so I'm not mistaken. There's a rally out there that'll
be in lace hot environment for him.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Coming up next, I do want to quickly revisit the
firestorm around CBS News right now and what's going on,
as it's been unearthed that they heavily edited that sixty
minutes an interview with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty scary.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
I agree with Shannon over here. Whether there comes a
time when you reach a certain age that you need
to up your skincare game and your wife will thank you.
She doesn't want to have to tell you to do it.
But maybe add some retinol in there, a wander hyaluronic acid.
I mean, there's so much out there. Yeah, I'm on
(07:22):
team Shannon. Go get some cream.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
There's a retinal cream you can just pick up at
the CVS or whatever. It's super cheap. It's like roc
or whatever, and it really does work well. I mean
it's about fifteen bucks. I think it's it's not cheap,
but if you put it like right here, some of
your problems area.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
Hey guys, h how do you shampoo and a bar soap?
My poor wife shampoo conditioner, a face so her feet soap.
She has two sponges and like four other products. I
have no idea what therefore. And she gets out of
the shower and she put from her forehead all the
way down her feet. Smart man, I'm glad I'm not
(08:03):
a woman. She looks good, smells really good. But man,
that's a lot of work. I felt bad for you.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
She looks good, smells good.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We like different things for different areas. We like products,
women like products. That is highly true, it's very accurate.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But we also did get some reaction to John's interview
with Trump yesterday.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, great show. Just tossing my two
cents in with that interview that John did with Trump yesterday.
I'm not really a big Trump supporter, but I just
wanted to say that I was pretty surprised at how
well that interview went yesterday. Yeah, it was great to
just listen to him in a raw format, just straight across.
He was really informed, knew a lot about California, which
was shocking, and overall it was really well done.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So good job, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And it's smart for Trump to do these interviews like that,
because there's there's another element where we all know John Cobelt.
Everyone listening, you've been listening to them for years, you
know him, We know him personally. When you're listening to
these candidates talk to someone you know, huge points are scored,
I think because you're you know, the other person in
(09:11):
the conversation it's it's more you're connecting more to that
candidate in that moment than you would watching them on
CBS News or Fox News or whatever. Yeah, it's a
smart it's a smart tactic to go on local talk radio.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Think about the reaction to JD Vance in the long
form debate, the long form, I mean the longest form
that we had seen him. Arguably that a lot of
people's opinions about him were changed because they said, listen,
I had an opinion of jd Vance because of what
I had been hearing, or the things that people were
making fun of, or the memes of him going in
(09:46):
and having an absolutely awful, awkward interaction with a donut
store worker. Those types of things are the things that
people get known for. But when you sit down and
listen to what they say, or read what they write,
or you know, hear their unedited answers key, then you
get to hear a little bit more about who they are.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Now, this is Alan from Monrovia. I always enjoy your show,
but I listened to John talking to Trump yesterday and
Trump actually managed to complete a couple of sentences. But
he does tend to get Newsom's nam wrong. He calls
them new scum. Has anybody else noticed that?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He does that on purpose.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, he calls him news scum, news scum.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I just wanted to briefly play again the difference between
the teased answer of Kamala Harris on Israel when she
did the sixteen minutes interview. There's a face the nation,
little blurb that they put out on Sunday before the
interview aired on Monday, and to me, the fact that
they changed it, they altered it, they edited it. Whatever
(10:54):
where was that pressure coming from to do so? They
changed the answer that they went on the air with
to tease thee they change that. So was that pressure
coming from within CBS News coming from the Kamala campaign?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Two options?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The third option, well, an option that fits under the
number one title that it came within CBS was let's
just get to the point for her, you know, which
is still not the right way to do an interview.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Like that's that's a fair argument.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But like, well, why would we give her I think
it's the first one I'm going to play for you
is about thirty seconds. Why would we give her thirty
seconds to stumble all over herself when we could do
it in fifteen seconds and she gets more to the point.
This is again, like you said, the first one that
was played Sunday morning to tease the upcoming.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You know, now that you say it like that, I'm
remembering doing interviews as a reporter and editing them to
where they get to the point. If someone's rambling, I
get that is on the cutting room floor, right, So
when you look at it that way, it's not as nefarious.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, it's not nefarious.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But if one of the greatest of a candidate, regardless
of who it is, is that they can't get to
the point on a very important world issue like the
problems in the Middle East, that's true. That's something that
needs to be pointed out. They would do the same
thing with Trump, and I would want them to. If
he's weak on a topic, show that. I mean that
(12:20):
that weakness is something that he's going to have to
live with, and in this case, she's gonna have to live.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening well.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
Bill, The work that we have done has resulted in
a number of movements in that region by Israel that
were very much prompted by or a result of many things,
including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Okay, she could have just said, but they do listen
to us, and they have done things to us or
for us.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's already started.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Actually he just went away.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I guess, of course he did.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I looked and there he was and he was talking.
And now he's gone.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We are waiting for a Governor DeSantis out of Florida
for the latest update before before Hurricane Milton hits, and
then just to follow it. This is this, This is
the answer that CBS did put on Monday night on
sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening,
same question.
Speaker 11 (13:24):
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
the United States to be clear about where we stand
on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Two very different answers. Because when I heard that answer,
listening to that interviewer thought wow, she was ready for it.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That, but that's the magic of editing, the magic of editing,
but also the the delusion of it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Perhaps all right, Justin Worsham, host of the Dad Podcast,
on Deck, we'll be talking about raising resilient kids when
we return.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand, k if
I am.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Let's talk about resilient kids.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
What about the boo dooo doo do?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
How did you do that? That?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
That was great?
Speaker 12 (14:14):
Like you guys should keep these rehearsals going. They're working,
they're paying off you and Robin those extra meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
They're working there four with Robin and the next day.
Speaker 12 (14:24):
So I'm gonna go do dude. She goes, Yeah, when
you do it, I'm gonna come in with the song.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Dude, I'm gonna hit go.
Speaker 12 (14:32):
I'm gonna cut out the first duo in the song.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So you do the first two?
Speaker 12 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh this is good.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
This is great.
Speaker 12 (14:37):
They bounces up down their seat. Great resiliency in kids. Yeah,
who doesn't love it? Is it baked in?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
When you cook them or you have to sprinkle on
top when they're done.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
Here's what's interesting, Like you're done, not when they're eighteen,
but when they decide to leave. You're like, hold on,
let me get the resiliency.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Out of the when they're yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12 (15:01):
It's funny because the research that we see is about
like we've talked about it, that there's like over four
hundred psychological traits that your kids are born with that
you have really no control over and you can't really
change them. Brains can be rewired, though, but as kids
get older, it's their peer group that becomes more of
an influence than you as their parent. Like I think,
if I'm remembering correctly, by the time the kids twelve,
(15:23):
you have less than three percent influence on your child
at that point in their life. But we get these
smart people that like to say these I'm smart, these
are the things that I think will make your kid
more resilient, more successful. And it's interesting if it wasn't
for the fact that I saw this article come up.
I think it was at least four times in different
iterations to me, which says that as a parenting article
(15:45):
that's kind of trending, I probably want to skipped on
it because I think a lot of it is garbage.
Like the number one thing is building trust, and it
talks about how important it is to build trust, not
not like I don't understand how to build trust with
my child.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's interesting because they the way that they describe trust
is that once your child believes you will be there
for them, providing support no matter what which is According
to all the parenting experts that I talked to, that's
not building trust.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
That's secure attachment. That's the real parenting term for that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
That's that's a presence.
Speaker 12 (16:14):
Yes, it's not trust because and this is why I
worry about these kinds of things, is that trust implies
that I have to be overly honest to my child
about everything, and I don't. I also don't know that
that's true. Likes there's things that, yes, you could be
honest with your kids about, but there's also things that they're.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Age, yes, exactly, And I think that the word trust
a lot of times would connote some sort of level
relationship or equal relationship, and that's not the way, at
least very early on, that's not the way the parent
child relationship exists.
Speaker 12 (16:48):
Yes, And then they go back to that through each
of these. So the next one is regulating emotions, which
it's interesting because what they talk about is they're saying
that you basically have to allow them to feel things,
and I again, like, these are blanketed statements that I
don't think you can't just allow a two year old
to feel things like that's just not a healthy world.
(17:08):
Because at that point in a child's development, the emotional
side of their brain is far more developed than the
logical part of their brain, and it's actually your job
to help them connect the two. And so like, again,
maybe that's what it is they're kind of hinting at,
is teaching them, but they didn't go into that kind
of depth in my opinion, and it just made me
feel like a lot of this is just misleading.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
BS.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
When does the logic kick in the brain?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Jury's still out. I got another year then, yeah, Justin
and I.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Are still emotional.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Did you purposely pick that number?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No?
Speaker 12 (17:44):
I read it, so I'm with you. Now let's go
to a podcast sit And this is obious done to
me from what I understand what I remember in the
books I read and the guests I had, it's around
eight to ten, and that age is when the that's
when the logical part of the brain starts really kicking in.
But then it also gets all tore up when they
become teenagers.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, developing independence is the third.
Speaker 12 (18:08):
This is the only one that to me makes total
sense as far as resilience, is that this really is
speaking to the idea that you have to let your
kids go out there and experience life, but they don't
go into it in the detail that.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I wish they would.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
That really, what I think it is to make a
kid resilient is that you they have to give them
that dependence, independence to make choices and have failures and
deal with the consequences of those failures instead of trying
to remove them from them.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
That so many.
Speaker 12 (18:32):
I've come across kids that can't decide what they want
to eat, and I think a lot of it has
to do with the fact of that that part of
their brain just isn't used to working.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
They don't have any practice.
Speaker 12 (18:42):
Like I had a conversation with my sixteen year old
just last week where I told them, I said, well,
part of the reason why I'm not telling you what
to do about giving your going and getting your driver's
license is because I want you to feel the consequences
of you have a plan, and I want you to
feel how that plan works, because at this point in
your life, you're not listening to me anyway.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, and it's all so in a situation like that.
You're not the first kid that this has ever happened to.
You're not the first person to have ever turned sixteen
and gotten the driver's license.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
There's a system.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's not that hard to get your feet in that
stream of and get moving. But there's such a fear
of But how do I, I mean even it. Listen,
when we had got our driver's licenses, we had to
get a pamphlet from somewhere or a booklet from.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
The DMV and figure and it kind of to read
it the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It would take you through the steps on how to
do it, but we had to go somewhere and do something.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They could They could.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Literally go, hey, and that's how do I get a
driver's license? And it does all the work for them.
Eighteen thousand, Alexas, just start telling people right now.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I helped you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Find your Department of Motor Fils.
Speaker 12 (19:50):
Connecting to others I think makes sense, like you want
them to understand how to have relationships, and then being
understood is another one that I just didn't That your
child needs to be to feel fully accepted in order
to like and love themselves, and your own self awareness
as a parent can help. According to client, the only
thing works more than being understood was to have it
(20:12):
say being seen. Yeah, I just I don't I really
don't think this helps kids.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I really truly don't.
Speaker 12 (20:20):
I think that they that in today's modern parenting, you
need to let them kind of there's as they get
into teenage years, you have to start to safely with
a leash, kind of let them start to experience their
own life and pick and choose those stumbles that they
can have, and that's the best way to make them resilient.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
All right, Coming up next, the Big lie of parenting?
What is the Big Law?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It's a heavy Shannon segment.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I think, oh, okay, okay, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
That she's really disappointed. You can't play waffle or what
Gary and shann.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I'm playing strands.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
If anybody within the sound of my voice knows somebody
who lives by themselves and you are their friend, get
an advanced health care directive, because if something happens to them,
you can't get access to their remains without that health
care directive. You don't need to have a trust or
any of that stuff. You could just get an advanced
health care directive. It's an easy form you could download online.
You can execute it with two people signing it. As
long as the person who is going to be the
(21:20):
agent isn't one of the witnesses, then you're fine.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I don't want an opportunity for us to talk about
the new estate planning segment that we're going to be
doing on the show on a regular basis. Right now,
we know too much of it. That's the problem, all right.
Justin Warsham has joined us. We're talking about parenting for
the most part, and this issue of a.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Death certificates you got to get a bunch of oh yeah,
everyone needs one.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Why women are rejecting the roles of mother and caretaker.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
There's a subhead like headline within this article. This is
from Your Tango, which is like a in my opinion,
a very feminist website. I'm not saying that as a negative.
I'm always afraid of I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Even know what that means anymore.
Speaker 12 (22:01):
Okay, great, that makes me so much better, because I
don't think I do either. But it says with women
increasingly unwilling to act as servants, childbearers and providers, people
are starting to grapple with the implications and it, as
a guy like that hits me very weird because I
don't think I've ever seen a situation where I felt
like a woman was a servant like in that regard.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean, sure, maybe you could.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Argue you wouldn't. No man will ever think that the
woman is the servant. But she does so much that
you don't even know about.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's what it is, and that's how.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Women can feel that way, like they're your servant. Like
they do everything. They cook, they clean, they take care
of the kids, and they don't have any time for themselves.
Everything's accounted for. Their whole day is accounted for, and
they're serving not themselves. So that makes them a servant.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Ah, that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
You don't need a woman'splain servanthood to us. I believe
she is for yourself familiar place.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, this is funny because yesterday we just I don't
even I don't even hear those words when they're spoken
to me. Yesterday we did a story about China and
government workers going door to door and asking women, are
you pregnant yet? At your timetable? When are you going
to get pregnant? Because the economy is going to suffer
so much from women not having kids.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
It's the birth rate is on.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
A huge decline right but so I'm curious, Shannon, do
you get a lot of people talking to you about.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Why don't you want to have kids? Why? Why aren't
you having kids? Or aren't you worried?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
You know?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Do they Do you get a lot of that?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, because I'm kind of aged out of that really,
But like in my thirties, it was are you going
to have kids? Or what are you thinking? Is your
mind changed? And my response has always been the same,
and it's the truth. I kept waiting to feel that
what's it right? And I didn't and I didn't want
to have kids if I didn't want kids one hundred
and twenty percent.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, did you?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well different?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I don't know if this is too deep on that.
Did you want to want to have kids?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I mean you said you waited for it, like you
knew that there was other people had talked about it,
I assume, and you had girlfriends that talked about it,
and when they had kids, they're like, this is what
I dreamed it would be, and that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Never that that never happened. I never heard that from anybody.
And now I get the thing I get the most
from women my age is just it's all refreshing. It's
like a new generation of feminism. Maybe it's like my
kid's an a hole or my oldest is such an
a hole right now, Like I hear that. I heard
(24:36):
that like three times in one week last week.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I love that, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The refreshing honesty of like, God, he or she is
a real freaking problem because this and that and that,
and it's like, wow, you know there growing up there
was I think our parents probably they didn't overshare that
kind of stuff about if they had a problem child
or whatever. And now it's not taboo. It's talked about,
(25:00):
and it's making it more and more like I did
the right thing.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Yeah, I'm just baffled by the idea that people care
so much about what other people are doing in that regard,
Like why would you ever as a person, I literally
wanted to be a father as a child.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I knew I wanted to have a family when I
was a kid.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You do know that, Yeah, pretty young. I never liked
having baby dolls like that was always weird to me.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And that's and that's what I mean. I don't but
I don't want people having kids that don't want kids.
I only want people.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
What they want exactly.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
That's better for everybody.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
By the way, did you have the thing at the
high school where you had to take care of an
ag for a week?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I never I know there was.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Giving like a slip saying Shannon shouldn't do this.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, or maybe that's why you just hand the egg
back and just be like, I'll take the air.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Just take the egg and crack it on my forehead.
I guess it's sober.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I had the balls to do when I was in
high school.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
Just I thought it's so connected to me being a
parent in reality, but it would be so much funnier
just be like, thank you, drop it.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
There, didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh that's dark. Well, justin thank you, thank you. Welcome
for the dark ending.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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