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October 17, 2024 24 mins
What’s Happening. #SmallBusinessShout with Sender One Climber. #StrangeScience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
What Else is going on? Time four? What's Happening?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
What's Happening is sponsored by Abner Gak Water Damage, Fire
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five two five six.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Israel is confirming the leader of Hamas was killed by
Israeli forces in Gaza. Ya Ya Sinwar was declared the
Palestinian militant group's new leader in August. They say he
was the mastermind behind the Hamas October seventh attack on Israel.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Israeli Army radio said that Sinwar was killed during a
fight with Israeli soldiers. They had spotted suspected terrace in
Gaza and opened fire before those individuals went into a building.
A tank then fired a shell at the building and
apparently caused it to collapse, despite early reports that it
may have been an airstrike. When the soldiers went inside
to examine the aftermath, they found three bodies, one of

(01:02):
them ultimately had been identified as sin War through DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
They were able to.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Get Liam Payne dead at thirty one years old there
in Argentina, jumped off. They're now saying locally that third
floor balcony died from his injuries. This was somebody who
publicly struggled with alcohol and drugs, talked about it during interviews,
went to rehab twice.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Nine to one to one call from the hotel before
his death.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Shortly before his death said there was somebody that was
aggressive on drugs and alcohol and that their life may
be in danger.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
In the nine to one to one call.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
The hotel workers get the voice gets more anxious as
the call goes on.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
He also had a seven year old son that he
shares with. The former judge of The X Factor from Britain,
a woman named Cheryl Cole. The X Factor Instagram post
a page actually put a post up that says we
are heartbroken by the sad passing of Liam Pain. Federal
Trade Commission has an interesting rule supposed to make it
easier to cancel memberships. Canceling memberships, unsubscribing from emails, whatever

(02:09):
it is, can be difficult. So the FTC has come
up with a rule that's supposed to make it easier
for you to cancel a subscription or a membership, and
the goal is to make it as simple for consumers
to opt out of recurring payments like Jim's Retailer's other
businesses as it is to sign up for them. If
you've ever tried to cancel a gym membership and go

(02:29):
through the process of first of all, some of them
actually require a letter. What's a letter anymore? But you
got to you got to write a letter, you got
to handwrite it in some cases. So under this so
called click to cancel rule, if a customer decides to
enroll in a subscription online or through an app in
one step, they have to be able to cancel in

(02:50):
one step also, and the business is going to be
required to provide important informations go when a free trial
would end, and to obtain a consent from the customer
before billing and charging them.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, a letter is what the La County DA is
calling new evidence in the case of Lyle and Eric
Menendez killing their parents, of course, in Beverly Hills in
nineteen eighty nine. This was a letter that Eric allegedly
wrote to his cousin in the months before the killings,
complaining about abuse he had suffered from his father, George.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Gascone, saying that.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
This is his moral and ethical obligation to review the case.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Does it nothing's immediate. I know that the family had
suggested they want a home for Thanksgiving. That ain't not
This Thanksgiving ain't gonna happen, even if everything goes right
for them. Dodgers Mets Game four tonight, five o'clock. Just
after five o'clock, his first pitch. The Dodgers had a
great game yesterday, shutting out the Mets eight to nothing.

(03:54):
Once again, all the questions about show Hay in the
postseason appeared to have been answered. And then Thursday night
Football tonight Broncos versus Saints.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Mitzi Gaynor, star of Hollywood's Golden Age of musicals, probably
best known for South Pacific, has died at ninety three.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Nothing like a Dane. We were just talking about the music.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Of South Pacific, talking about that I only know Bally High,
Bally High happy talk.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's I'm going to wash that, yeah, man right out
of my hair? Is that man right out of my hair?
Saying that I believe that's a sad thing.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
In the sixties, she headlined at the Flamingo in Vegas,
eventually becoming Vegas's highest paid female entertainer.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Wow. Yeah, well this is exciting.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
This is Southern California's premiere climbing destination.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's called Sender One.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
They've got locations throughout LA and Orange County. And it's
not just climbing, it's climbing, it's yoga's fitness, it's youth programs, parties,
community events. Really a place that wants to bring people
together and work towards being healthy and working together.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Alice cow Is a co founder and CEO of Sender
One Climbing.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Thanks for coming in.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Today, Thank you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Y So, tell us the story. How did you get
involved with this? Is this something you've always wanted to do,
always your passion? How did it start?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
So, Actually, I was a terrible athlete as this kid,
I don't identity. It's really hard for me to accept
that I'm an athlete now because I did a lot
of different sports and I was bad at all.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Of them same same thing.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, I'm afraid of the ball and I had really
thick glasses. So I actually discovered climbing when I was
living and working in London. I went through a really
terrible breakup and I think sometimes you know, these things happen,
right when you go through a tough time in life,
you summer this thing that changes your life.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
So I was living in London and it was really
cold in the wintertime, and I was depressed. I didn't
get out of bed for a month. And then a
friend of mine said, you know what, maybe she should
try something active. So she took me to a climbing
gym in London and it changed my life.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I missed breakups for that very reason. I mean, I
was in the best shape of my life after break up.
There's just something that makes you want to yeah, right,
the revenge, the body or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So did you take to it immediately?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
So I went to the climbing gym. You know, I
took this intro to climbing class, which we offer every day.
It's under one We give you it's a one hour instruction.
We teach you the ropes, we teach you how to
tie in, run to your shoes, all the guidance you need.
And then I just remember the moment that I climbed
to the very top of the wall for the first time.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It was like, wow, I'm.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Good enough, Like I didn't do this, yeah, and then
it was became obsessive. It's like I was going five
days a week and then I'd met all these friends.
And I think that you know, the reason climate climbing
has really risen popularity, it's not just the physical aspect
of it. It's the community aspect because there's just these people.
It's a place people gather, right, so after a while

(06:51):
you kind of lose yourself in this community.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's also, I assume it's partly also because there's the
entry point is relatively low. The entry price is what
I mean to say, is relatively low. You can go
to one of these community gyms, you can go to
sunder one, and you can get on the wall pretty
quickly and not and not have a giant outlay of funds,
whereas if you're picking up golf or you're picking up

(07:14):
some other sports, sometimes it costs a lot of money
just to get through the door.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
And also like ninety nine percent of the people that
come into the door, they can get to the top
of the wall on their first visit.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's fair encouraging.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
What's it like to see that look on people's faces,
Like you remember the feeling when you first got to
the top of your first wall.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I got to believe that that would be very rewarding.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
This, oh my god, it was amazing and I love
just going to the gym. Right now, I'm watching people
climb to the top. And so, you know, we started that.
So I started climbing in London. I came back to
the US during the last recession in eight and I
was working and eventually quit my job started this. So
the other thing is like, when we started the climbing
gym business, it was kind of like a side gig.
I had heard, Hey, you know what, some professionals have

(07:57):
a restaurant or a coffee shop on the side, and
I thought, my thing is going to be a climbing
gym on the side. And then this business just kind
of grew at a life of its own. And now
I quit my job and you know, I've been doing
this full time for twelve years.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's the dream, right when your hobby, what you love,
becomes your work. Tell me about the I'm interested in
the parties for kids and the programs that way, it
just sounds like a really great thing. Good principles for
kids to learn and working together and all of that.
In the sense of accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
So we have this era called Center City and three
of our larger locations in La Orange County and in Lakewood,
so near the Long Beach Airport, and it's it's when
you come and see it, right, It's got like giraffes
and happy faces and like you're climbing towers and kind
of fun climbing like challenges. And when we saw the product,
really liked it. Because I used to sell toys for

(08:49):
a living for many years. I was a toy executive
and also a dream job, so I was just always thought,
you know what, when you want to when as the
sport grows, you really need the kids to get into
the sport. Like I remember, this is how soccer became
popular in the US is when the kids started playing
a lot of soccer. H So for us, that was
an entry point for the sport to grow. And we

(09:11):
really focus on that kid family friendly activity. And I
think where we're unique against the other climbing gym offerings
is that we make that a priority in our in
our business.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
You mentioned that climbing became an Olympic sport and that
was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
That was a big boost for the industry, I.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Assume, Yeah, that happened. I think that it was announced
in like twenty sixteen or seventeen. And then the Olympic,
well it was Tokyo twenty twenty, but it happened in
twenty one. You know, that was the first time I
was in the Olympics. It was an Olympics in Paris.
It's going to be in the Olympics in La twenty eight,
so we have four years until that happens. So it's
really exciting.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, and you're expanding. I know that you guys are
going to open a new one in Elisa Vah.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, that's a big deal. So along with climbing, obviously,
there's a bunch of other things that you do there
at Sender one.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
What is it the yoga, the fitness classes.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, fitness classes, yoga, after school programs, so it's like
we have after every day at three thirty four o'clock.
We have hundreds of kids that come in. It's like
after school gymnastics or after school soccer. It's just another
after school program. And then there's these kids that compete
in a circuit actually locally and nationally. In fact, we

(10:22):
had a kid We have a kid now who came
in through a birthday party and now is a world champion.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah he came in just to he came in through
a birthday party.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
And then he actually he works for us part time.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
What do you say when somebody gets like a bit
up the wall and then they freak out and they're like,
I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, this is what I tell them. This is
that someone told me this when I started climb, because
member I was hair about sports. Is we actually have
a climbing instinct. You know, a lot of parents come
in and they tell me. They're like, my kid is
a climber. And I said, how do you know? Because
they climb up and down furnitures. Yeah, right, like they
you know, you're actually born to climb. And so I
find them, Hey, this is an instinct. You know how

(11:01):
to do this. So before you go and reach a
higher hold with your hand, try to find a higher foot. Okay,
so it's just one foot, like one foot, one hand
at a time. Okay, don't look down.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, I know, ship crazy. We're supposed to climb. I
tried it.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
You're supposed to I tried it once on a cruise ship.
I think it was, and that's exactly what happened to me.
I got like halfway up and I was like, oh
my god, I looked down.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I was like, oh, hell no.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Eventually you learn to trust the rope and trust the equipment. Right. Yeah,
so it's also a great date night exercise.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You're totally right, challenge.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I set off the air that one of the the
last time I went to a climbing I think it
wasn't the last time. I shouldn't say that, but one
of the first times I went to a climbing hole
was on a date night gift that I received as
a wedding gift, and we had a blast. My forearms
were sore for seven days after that.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Wow, well this is going to inspire you to come
climbing tonight, maybe this weekend.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Listen. I always thought you had a weak four arms.
I'm just kidding. I was just a joke. That was
I don't even know what they look like. That's why
wear jackets. A thank you so much, this was fun.
I appreciate it. Where's the what's the website? Is it?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Sender one dot com? Sender one climbing dot com?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Excellent?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Did you know that trees have sex. No, that's where
we kick off strange science.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Strange. It's like weird science, but strange.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
The headline is trees sex or death. A study published
in the journal p l Os Biology says that yes,
certain trees are able to clone themselves, which raises the
possibility that they could live forever. But this study kind

(12:52):
of says, wait, wait, no, you need the sex. The
team at the University of British Columbia, Canada found that
the fertility of clones declines with age, So if a
tree cannot clone itself indefinitely, it must eventually sexually reproduce
or it will die.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Is this the connection between avocado trees? That?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Have you ever heard about this connection between avocado trees?
If you have an ava sorry speaking again, if you
have an avocado tree alone, like no one else in
your area has one, it's not going to produce a
lot of fruit. But if you have one and a
neighbor has one, they'll both produce more fruit. I've never

(13:36):
heard of that anecdotal I've heard that story about avocado trees.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
In the wild.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Trees do resort to cloning when there are no members
of the same species nearby. With which to sexually reproduce.
They how do trees have sex? That's a great question.
It doesn't say in the article. Well, I don't think
it's like trees like rubbing branches, if you know what

(14:06):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, so let's see the Google says.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Sexual reproduction in trees allows male genetic components the pollen
to reach female components of the same species grow to
fertilize an egg and produce a viable embryo within a seed.
The fertilization process is made possible by flowers or cones.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Interesting, so when like a pine cone falls off your tree,
that's not.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Sap what how how dare you make something disgusting out
of something beautiful?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, it's the birds and the bugs, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oftentimes that can take the pollen back and tree eate
a tree.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right, That's why the ecosystem is so beautiful with the
birds and the and the trees.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
No, birds and the bees. Now you get it.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Wow, lucky you you have look at the light go
off in that bright bulb. That is that was pretty
amazing to watch that happen in front of me. You're welcome,
thank you for that moment. That was really great. You

(15:25):
want volcano news, Yes, I got volcano news because you
just flew over this volcano and didn't even probably know it.
We've talked about Mount Rainier, of course, glamorous volcano. You
can climb Mount Rainier for the most part, although it
does take some lives two or three a year. You
could scheme Mount hood Up in the Pacific Northwest also

(15:46):
a volcano.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Or if you were.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Alive, you remember Mount Saint Helen's exploding, erupting.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I guess it's a word that they use.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
But Mount Adams, also located in southern Washington State, is
pretty calm. The US Geological Survey says that Mount Adams
is considered a high threat volcano, but those others that
I mentioned, Raynier, Hood Helen's, they are considered very high
threat volcanoes. Earthquakes normally detected around Mount Adams once every

(16:16):
couple of years. Mount Raynier probably has ten or twenty
a month. So there was an alert that went out
that said that there was a flurry of earthquakes around
Mount Adams. That got some attention from the people who
watch volcanoes or vulcanologist. There have been ten earthquakes recorded
there so far this year, including six in September and
one in the month of October.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
All of it, they say a little out of character
for Mount Adams.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
The earthquakes are small, probably not even felt if anybody
is standing in the area. But the federal government says
it is keeping an eye on the activities below Mount
Adams in the hopes that they don't have to increase
it's volcano alert level.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Wow, but it's a beautiful mountain. It's pretty cool, gorgeous, Yeah,
they are. I didn't see any pictures of Mount Adams, though,
I don't I don't think I took anything. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I'd want to know what my dog would say to
me today, speak today, specifically, just because he got his
you know, taken off yesterday, taken out. It's probably the
better way to put it. Somebody suggested I buy him
some nuticles. Yeah, so he thinks he has balls the
implants so that he thinks, but why he doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
You don't know that that's true? Speak Hi there? Did
that dog just say hi there?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yes, my name is Doug. I have just met you,
and I love you. My master made me his collar.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
He is a coded smart Master and he made me
his collar so that I may talk squirrel.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I love that movie. I do too.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I love that movie. I it's up the movie.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Just to clarify, I don't know about having your dog
talk to you. It might be a fun novelty, but
isn't part of the beauty of dogs is that they
don't talk. They're just unconditionally loving you. What if your
dog starts talking and it's like, are you really leaving
the house in that shirt?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You look ugly? I don't think why fat? Why is
a fat? There are dogs that are taught to connect.
Have you seen the dogs with the buttons? The word buttons? No,
they go through and they'll tap a button and it
says a specific word like love or outside or food
or sleep or whatever. And people say that that's them

(18:36):
communicating with us.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's just it's training. I mean, it's it's not as it's.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Not as complex as them coming up with language. I
don't know what they would say in the event that
we could understand their length. Their vocabulary wouldn't be that large.
They could probably do a radio talk show, but I
wouldn't say that they'd be able to communicate effectively.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
What do you mean I just mean that they listen
to you talk all the time. Yeah, but that's how
they kids learn how to talk. That doesn't mean you
they know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
They're just hearing the words coming out of my mouth,
something like you do when you look at me and you're.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Like, okay that my face doesn't do that. What do
you think your face is doing right now? I know
what it's saying, do you?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
This Shazam Band cannot be real because all it is
is a series of voices that have been messages that
have been pre recorded and loaded onto this this link
well as an example, this is the commercial for them
that shows up on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
So now I don't know coda, can you understand us?
I can always understand you. Wait, can you understand me?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Really?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Joes running around the house? Ah, Jose was like the
best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So there are twenty five different personas you can choose
between for your pet. Each one is effectively a different voice.
During your first thirty days of owning the Shazam Band,
you get to try them all out before you settle
on the persona that best suits your pet.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
The band has a bunch of censors in it. It
says which would listen not only to the words that
you say to your dog, but would sense what your
dog is doing at that time.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
You can do accents too, like Peter would have a
Scottish accent, yes, even though he's from Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, he's from the West Valley, right, Technically I think
he's in Ventura County, Okay, so we'd have more of
a surfer Scottish surfer accents.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay. The result is what the Shazam band calls.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Just always asks you to put on the Foo Fighters.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Sentience augmentation, and what that means is that it would
articulate your pet's mood experience and then responses back to
you as they're happening with little sound bites like I'm
feeling sad right now or something along the lines of
you know, I'm down to snuggle.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh de. That would creep me out, man.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
The idea is that you start to get having, you
start to get into having a conversation with your pet,
and over time, they say, it lurks, sorry, it learns
and becomes more natural.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Speaking of that, dogs, they say, are undergoing a third
wave of domestication, driven by humans desire for pets that
are friendly, calm and well suited to a lazy ass lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
We are training the work out of our dogs.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Decades ago, canines were seen as working animals, right, hunting, herding,
guarding homes. But now since we are all lazy pieces
of s that don't leave the couch and just sit
and scroll in our candy jet.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
What did I call it? Candy candy jet blaster, candy blaster?
Oh the game.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, we're all sitting on our couch playing candy Blaster,
and the dog is just like lern is, evolving to
be lazy too.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
This is crazy, they said. They researched dog's social skills.
They know that they're ingrained in their genetics, specifically genes
that control their sensitivity to oxytocin, for example. So that's
why when you look at the dog's eyes and the
dog looks at your eyes, you're both getting the oxytocin hit.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Right, you're hot railing that oxytocin.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, they observed sixty golden retrievers as they attempted to
lift a lid off a jar of treats which the
scientists intentionally put on in a way that was impossible
to remove. And what they did was. They took DNA
swabs from inside the nose to determine which variant of

(23:04):
the oxytocin receptor each one had, and they found that
service dogs have a higher level of oxytocin than do
pet dogs. The dogs performed the behavioral test twice, once
after they received of oxy a dose of oxytocin nasal spray,
and they said they wanted to see how long it
would these dogs would attempt to open these jar of

(23:25):
treats themselves before they turned to you and asked for help.
And they said those dogs with this particular genetic variant
of the receptor had a stronger reaction to the oxytocin
spray than the other dogs, that the oxytocin dose made
them more likely to look to you for help opening
a jar.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Huh. But that's also one of the tests.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
They do to see if the dog would be a
good service dog, because if they're willing to continue at
it and work the problem out theirselves, they would be
more apt to that kind of work.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Parents are going viral for doing a different kind of
gender reveal.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Have you heard about this?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Instead of the explosion of pink or blue, it's green.
Green signifies that they'll let the baby come out and
decide what gender it is.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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