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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app US confirming North Korea has
sent troops to Russia.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's where we kick off. Swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Swamp is horrible, So the government doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Man, gonna make this like a reality TV show.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
A bad noos.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hey, Joe.
Speaker 6 (00:26):
A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and
in so many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I have to watch your malarkey.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Boy said drained the swamp. I said, Oh that's so hope,
keep you know the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin saying today there's been evidence of
North Korean troops there in Russia. It's unclear what exactly
they're doing. They're working to gain more information on the situation.
He says it is a serious issue of North Korea's
intention is to participate in the war in defense of Russia.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But what the hell else would they be doing there?
Speaker 7 (01:00):
Cook hell, training but triton but not taking part in
the week tighting, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Last week about how Zelensky accused North Korea of preparing
to send about ten thousand troops to Ukraine to fight
alongside Russian forces.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Well, we are now less than two weeks away from
election day, and that means that things are heating up
on the campaign trail.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Vice President Harris.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Doing a televised town hall tonight hosted by CNN in
Chester Township, Pennsylvania. Former President Trump is in Georgia. Trump
campaign also announced that he will be sitting down for
an interview with Joe Rogan coming up. I believe Friday
is the day that they're going to tape that. So
there's a lot that's been said about. Some new comments
(01:44):
come out from John Kelly, a former White House Chief
of Staff. He talked with The New York Times. He
was Homeland Security under Trump Homeland Security Secretary enter Trump
before he moved to the White House in July of
twenty seventeen and spent time working as close as you
can get with former President Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He says that Trump is a fascist who said Adolf
Hitler did some good things.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, looking at the definition of fascism, it's a far right, authoritarian,
ulter nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by atoral leader,
centralized hypocrisy, militarism, explicitical suppression of opposition, belief in a
natural social hierarchy. So certainly, in my experience, those.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
Are the times he thinks would have worked better in
terms of running America.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
He said he prefers the dictator approach to government. He
said the former president never accepted the fact that he
wasn't the most powerful man in the world, and by
power I mean an ability to do anything he wanted
any time he wanted. John Bolton, no longer a friend
of well not really ever really a friend of the
former president, came out and suggested the same thing, but
(03:07):
in a different way, saying Trump isn't even smart enough
to be a fascist.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Well, I think it's extremely important that John has gone
public to the extent he has in The Atlantic and
the New York Times just a couple of weeks before
the election, because even though some of the things in
these articles have been reported publicly before, to have them
all in one place, in effect two places, I guess,
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and from John directly, I think is something the American
people should listen to. I think it's a mistake to
get into a controversy over whether Trump meets the definition
of fascist or not. I think his behavior alone is
troubling enough.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
To be a.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Fascist, you have to have a philosophy. Trump's not capable
of that. Adolph Hitler wrote found only troubling book called
min kompf My Struggle. Donald Trump couldn't even read his
way all the way through that book, let alone write
something like it now.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Because he doesn't have a tension span for anything that
doesn't involve him, but that he couldn't read it.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
So there's also a discussion about Trump hiding his ancestry.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Trump is a German name, but the I guess.
Speaker 9 (04:24):
In his book Art of the Deal, he wrote that
he actually has Swedish ancestry to try to avoid any
connections to Hitler because when Trump senior or I guess,
it would be Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Donald Trump's father came to the United States and was
a landlord. He downplayed his German ancestry because so many
of his tenants were Jewish and they didn't want to
make a big deal out of it. So Vice President
Harris came out and a short time ago stood outside
the Naval Observatory there in Washington, d C. The official
residence and explained that this is who you're voting for.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
If you're not voting for her. We know what Donald
Trump wants. He wants unchecked power.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
The question in thirteen days will be what do the
American people want?
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Okay, now, be careful what you say there, because if
you lose this thing, that's an indictment on you. Also,
if you're painting this guy as Hitler but other people
choose him over you, it's a day.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But he knows that she's done. If she doesn't win this, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well that's that's going to be clear.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
But she This is where we are is we're talking
about people's opinions of We give our opinions every day,
but we're talking about people's opinions of these two personalities
as opposed to just simple, basic, boring political stances on things.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yes, and it's almost like you know, Michelle Obama, when
they go low, we go high. They've kind of gone
low with meeting Trump in the Mud. It's very low
hanging fruit. To compare someone to Hitler, compare something to
the Holocaust, I'm so over that. Lazy, what would you
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call it?
Speaker 9 (06:14):
It's just a trope at this point, it's it's overused,
it's lazy.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's a compare the lazy the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, okay, so we were talking about early vote totals,
and early vote totals when you look at the swing
states this week, do indicate that Trump will win this thing. Now,
there are things to keep in mind, because you can't
have misplaced confidence when you look at these totals. So
I'll get to there's just simply too many variables to
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make projections of an election's outcome on this one basis.
The main problem is there's simply too much we cannot know.
What about the voters who are not registered as Democratic
or Republican.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Who are they casting their ballots for?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Does it increase early vote numbers, indicate unusual voter enthusiasm,
or just as shift in voting habits.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
These are people that won't turn up or you know
that they're vote.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
They're choosing to vote early as opposed to going to
their polling place on day of. However, that all said,
Republicans are making up a larger share of early voters
this year among their own numbers Republican numbers from four
years ago. So, just to show our math, here in
North Carolina, registered Republicans have cast almost as many votes
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as registered Democrats so far.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But the key is.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Roughly thirty four percent of early ballots have been cast
by Republicans in North Carolina. That's double the eighteen percent
cast by Republican voters during the same period in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Double.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Does that mean there's more voter enthusiasm for Republicans this
time around?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Does it just mean that eighteen percent chose to do
early voting for the first time or chose to do it,
and they did choose to do it in twenty twenty,
which is weird because in twenty twenty, remember we were
in the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everyone was voting by mail.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, And it's also interesting because Trump has kind of
sent a mixed message when it comes to early voting
and mail in ballots and things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right Pennsylvania, the biggest battleground, Republicans have cast about twenty
eight percent of early ballots that was by yesterday. That's
up from twenty four percent in the overall early voting
period in twenty twenty. And you're saying the same thing
play out in Nevada as well, where she's pulling well,
(08:40):
but the votes say Republicans are turning out more.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
University of Florida has an election lab that tracks early voters,
and they said as of this morning, twenty one point
two million people have cast an early vote. So far,
seven point eight million have voted in person, thirteen point
three have voted via mail in bat ballots, and more
than sixty two and a half million mail in ballots
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have been requested. In forty eight of fifty states, you
have an option to vote early. Forty eight of fifty.
The only two Alabama and Mississippi, the only states that
don't have universal early voting. You can get an absentee ballot,
but you have to have a reason to get an
absentee ballot in those two states. But I mean, those
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are you know, Mississippi and Alabama are going to be
for the most part Republican unless something absolutely bonkers goes on,
and hey, it's not out of the realm of boxing.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well of bonkers. Mark Halpern reporting this morning that he
has been shopped a story that would end Trump's campaign
if it's true.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Talk about what that could be when we come back.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
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Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, there was a report out today from political journalist
Mark Halpern that he has been shopped and other major
news outlets have been shopped a story about Trump that,
if true, would end his campaign.
Speaker 9 (11:23):
And that Okay, so I have a follow up to
what you were saying earlier. This thing that would end
the campaign is this allegation that it was Trump that
leaked this latest Israel war plan intelligence that just hit
social media over the weekend. And we now know the FBI,
the Department of Justice, etc. They're all investigating, Department of
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Defense investigating where this stuff actually came from.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But I have a hiccup to that.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Back in August, Trump said that he was not going
to be receiving any classified briefings because because he was
afraid that he would be accused of being the leaker.
Mid August, he says, I don't need the briefing. They
come in, they give you a briefing, and then two
days later they leak it, and then they say you
(12:12):
leaked it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Interest.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
So the only way to solve that problem is not
to take it. I'll have plenty of briefings when I
get in. That again, was from August. I don't know
if it changes you mentioned obviously he had a conversation
with Benjamin that Yahoo, I.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Think that even if this was the case, if this
if he was responsible for the leak, and there's no
evidence to suggests that that.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, he tweeted on Trump's social about it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He said right before the FBI announced its investigation into this,
hours before, he said, US leaked highly confidential demo documents
from Israel.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
May have come from Defense Department.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Israel has been seriously damaged and compromised by this wartime strategy,
and data probably came from the Defense Department. Must find
the leaker. Israel no longer wants to share documents with US,
and who can blame them? Like, why would he say
that if he was the one who leaked it?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Very did you order the code red esque?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
But even if it is true, even if he did
leak it, and again no evidence to that, not enough
people are paying attention to this, nor care to affect
the election.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Well, a great way, we've said it, you know, and
it's come out. I think in the last couple of days,
you know, a couple of weeks. Specifically, is those those
undecided voters. The number of people who claim to be
undecided is so small right now that it's not even
the undecideds that could change this the course of this election.
It's those unenthusiastic people who look at this and think
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to themselves, Like we've said multiple times, although I am
going to vote, it's these two that's all.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That's who I have to choose from these two.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
In a bit of fun swamp news, we mentioned it yesterday,
Rudy Giuliani being ordered to hand over his assets to
two election workers he defamed in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
This order requires.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Juliani to give control of his New York penthouse, thirty
eight luxury watches, his Mercedes, and cash to Ruby Freeman
and Shay Moss, mother and daughter.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
He said that they took part in the election fraud.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
In twenty twenty, he was ordered to pay them almost
one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Thirty eight luxury watches? How many is too many?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I know guys like their watches sometimes if you're a
watch guy, you're not a watch guy, but there are
guys that are watch guys. Thirty eight seems still too many?
Or is it like shoes for women where you just
you can't have too many.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
But shoes you can wear and shy.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Watches are you wear? And show.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
I can understand, but I mean, you're talking about the
cost of cars. In some cases nice cars too for
some of these watches, and a car you can get
use out of.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't understand what you need a watch for anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Watches are great. I love watches as an accessory. I'm
not wearing one today, do you often? I wear one
every day. Usually it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Rare that I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Every day, except you know today today I have Let's see,
I have three or four watches, and I love a
but I love a clock, like that's part of it.
Like our job revolves around a clock. I love a clock.
I love to be on time. I love all the
things about clocks. I like things to be all things
to be on time.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think the last watch.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I think my wife bought me a watch early in
our marriage, and I had that thing for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
This is why you're always late getting us to a break,
and I usually nail it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh I'm sorry, we no, because I'm watching the clock.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Oh okay.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
Justin Worship is a host of the dad podcast.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Hi Halla Halla Halla, Like Deep in North Carolina, holler
yes or yes, thank you for always knowing exactly what
I'm mean, exactly deep in the hollers of the Carolinas. Well, listen,
we talk about we talk about a lot of stuff
on this this segment about parenting and people overdoing it
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when it comes to parenting.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Intensive parenting. Yeah, it's a new thing.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
So everybody loves to talk about how people in Norway
are always the happiest people in the world. And this
is fascinating because Science of Norway I think was the website.
I don't know, I'm too excited about just the general topic.
They're talking about intensive parenting like it's a new thing.
It's like Norway, maybe this is why they're so happy.
It's like they're in a bubble over there. Sure, And
(17:02):
really what's happening is it's like helicopter parenting is flying
in over their society and.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They're like, guys, this is going bad.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
This is like and they're saying all the things that
we've been seeing for like twenty plus years in regards
to this.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I'm just gonna blow through through some quotes here.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
The modern family has clearly become more child centered, So
there's a great book called Oktum Baby. It's about a
parent who a mom who moved I think from Oregon
somewhere here in the States, and her husband got a
job in Germany and so she had to travel around
Europe with her kid, and she was fascinated how everywhere
in Europe people will like just park their baby in
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a stroller a block and a half away outside from
a coffee shop, and that's just where the baby is
and that's just how it goes. Or they'll drop their
kid off at a park and they'll go someplace else
and their response is always, well, what if the kid
gets hurt, I don't know, somebody else will be there,
or they'll be walking by, somebody will take care of it.
It's not a problem. And so it just feels like
Norway's now having this. Today's parents no longer trust their
(17:59):
natural instinct. Parents have become very concerned with protecting their
children from a lot of the adult world. Instead, they
could be preparing their children to face that world.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Do you know what opptune means?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Attack?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Danger?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I always thought it was attack.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
It was three years of German and Modesta High School
was no good.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
What that means no, excuse me, Yeah, come on.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
Weirdly enough, I only used German once in a North
Carolina airport in the holler.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Really yeah, in the collar. I really brought it.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Announced.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
I was doing stand up and they announced like, hey,
if anybody speaks German, if you could come to Gate
twenty seven. And I'm like, they're not talking to me,
and like twenty minutes goes by, and they go again,
if anybody speaks German, if you could come to gate
twenty seven. I was like, all right, So I walk
up there and I said, hey, I took three years
of German in high school. I don't know if I
could help them to go. We just need her to
know that her plane isn't going to ride for fifteen minutes.
And I said, oh fum Saint Monwton and she goes
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Danka and she walked away. I was like worth it, Wow,
three years of my life for that up to an
old lady who only spoke German visiting the States.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Wait a minute, you're doing stand up in the airport
at North Carolina or you were in North Carolina. I
was in North Carolina to do stand up and was
heading back home when that happened.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
To see what's your welcome?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Is that bitta the bita vilkomen or illo? I think
if I remember credits, like how they say hello, but
bitta is like how they say yes yeh, like it's
even though it means please, but that's like everything's like yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I was saying bitta to doanka doing it wrong?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
I think so Donka's thank you if I'm not missing
it's been a while. It's been a while, but to
get back to Norway. Sorry, I don't like it's I
don't know what you guys think of this. I am
fascinated by this idea that it seems to be like
a microcosm of a society that is now already seeing
because they're they're fresh, it's fresh to them, and they're
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seeing the dangers of how their kids are not able
to handle negative emotions, they're not or negative experiences, and
they're their academics are saying like, guys, this isn't like,
this isn't the way to do it, Like why are
we doing this? And I imagine this is what academics
were probably saying in the seventies to parents in America,
but at that time, nobody cared what kids thought right,
(20:10):
So I don't know that they were academics going, what
are you doing well?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
And I love is this delight?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
The holidays are being planned or according to the child's wishes,
what my.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Child gets to aside what we do for the holidays.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
You know how many people that like it's one thing
if you're making plans to say, like hey, I want
to let me talk to the.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Wife or my husband, that kind of thing.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
But I know people that are like, well, I just
got to see what the kids feel about it. I
don't know how this makes me a bad person. I
could care less what my children think about most things.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Sometimes and I love them a lot, Sometimes they don't
have feelings, or at least feelings that that we should
care about it.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
I told you before we started this segment I went
through I've gone through something very like in my opinion,
I have tried very very hard to not like raise
my voice a ton, because mostly because my kids are
getting older and they're teenagers.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
But they'll start fighting back soon. He did.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
My sixteen year old gave me a little verbal tongue
lashing in the car this morning, and he was lucky
he had to get to school and he was already
running late.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Was he doing that for you?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I he he's getting ready for his choir show. And
he would be so mad at me because I.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Was born with fully functional legs. He was out of
that car exactly. Oh, you have no idea, Gary, You
have no idea. If I was married to you Hoffman,
it would be so different.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Think about that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Wait to wait what?
Speaker 9 (21:31):
So he was getting ready and you forgot costume pieces.
And I had to go back to the house twice
because I help out at the choir. I'm there at
the rehearsals. At one point, I'm facetiming him because.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
His room is just a duster disaster. There's literally all
of his clothes are on the floor, all of them.
Boy dirty. Everybody says that this is my first experience. Listen,
I'm shouting, you need to.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Go into your kids rooms every once in a while. Well,
I do you got drugs in there?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I've read like the things is this is Regulahit dumb parrot,
not my son, Shannon, not my heart.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
We've done We've done segments on you.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Before you know, he may get a little Seconday's copteraction
rehab and rehab and acquire friend ye he goes to.
He tells me about what happens at these parties, but
he says he never partakes, so I'm not worried about it.
His mother and I know that he's just so eye
rolling on the radio. So anyway, what he.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm like, what is that? I go, that's it?
Speaker 9 (22:26):
After and then he set me back a second time
because he forgot his pants, like twenty minutes later.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Pants.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Scary, Shannon, he forgotten it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I said that sixteen year.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Old somewhat responsible, I thought, And so I just said, hey,
I've been nice about this. Your room will never look
like this again. That's always been my approach to everything
they've done. It's like, I will give you the freedom
until you can't handle the freedom when you're not being
a responsible person. Because now your lack of organization and
over like general slotty lists.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I don't even know the term.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Thank you. Yes, now it's affecting my life, so now
I get to inter in yours. I've also told them
multiple times, they said one day you were going to
live with a woman, and they will not tolerate this.
I can't look my future daughter in law and the
eye knowing that this is what I have given her
to deal with.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And the drugs.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Will continue. In just a moment, you're.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Justin Morsham has joined us. He's the uh, he's the
guy that we maybe I should have called by show
the mom ket about that would have been funny.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Funny, I'll be honest.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Sixty seven percent of the listeners of the Dad Podcast
were women, and when we did a survey, we found
that they listened to it to try to get an
understanding into their husband's minds when it comes to parents,
and they.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Realized they're looking in the mirror. I think it was
that they were like, yeah, no, I really understand where
this guy is coming.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Most dads wouldn't want to sit down and dive into
being a dad on a podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I did a couple of times with you.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yes, I don't think I cried.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
No, you laughed?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean I was telling bipolar.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Are you crying right now?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Share?
Speaker 7 (24:09):
I don't think that guys uh talk about parenting in
order to look for advice. It's just to share. I
think it's because it's to share funny stories.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
I mean, you know there's a lot of stupid stuff
that goes on. Did you talk about the sex with what?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
I know we at least talked about the time that
h Again, Yeah, we've talked about that. The only reason
I know that is because when Michelle found out you
were going to be on the show, she insisted that
you retell that story.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
She says, he probably won't want to, but you have
to make because it's so good.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
For handle that day, and so it was morning show material.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Yes, yeah, so we talked about that, but I was
looking for advice, like what do you do when your
son walks in on you having sex? That didn't No, Yeah,
you're right, and we didn't.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I mean I didn't.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
It wasn't really an advice show other than when I.
I had a sex and family therapist and a pediatrician
as regular guests, and so people would write in with questions,
but it was more of just sharing funny stories or the.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Hassles of it, like the struggles of it.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
I think that my attempt was to try to normalize
that it wasn't regular, which going back to I don't
know if you want to keep talking about Norway, but
that's another thing that they point out is that there's
this growing trend in social media in Norway about where
people are talking about their parenting life. Well, we've talked
before about the necessity of shame in popular culture. There
are times when people do need to be shamed out
(25:32):
of their behavior, but there are times also when shame
is used when it's not necessary. And this is it
sounds like, I mean, it sounds like shame associated with
parenting is generally unhealthy. That you're made to feel like
you're not doing enough because you know your neighbor or
the somebody in the next town over has their kid
(25:52):
in four travel baseball teams and a hockey team, and
I mean, you just feel like you're not doing enough.
I don't even think the kids are aware of what
the other kids are doing necessarily.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
No, I don't. Yeah, I don't think so. That not
in my experience.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
I mean, I'm around a lot of now high school
and middle school age kids, and I don't really there
was not a lot of There was more like comparing
yourself for keeping up with the joneses. I feel like
when I was a kid than there is that I'm
seeing with my kids. The only thing that they seem
to want is a phone that seemed other than that.
Everybody seems to have their own sense of style.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's sad that that has replaced everything.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, well, a funny thing.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
I made a joke about my son going to parties
and saying, like I made a joke. I'm like, do
you want me to get you some cigarettes and to
take to this court. He was going to a party
with some older kids and everything.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
He was like, he goes, actually, I have nicotine.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
What he said was actually that people would be mad
at me, like they're okay if you bring some beer,
or if you bring a vate pen or some gummies,
but if you bring actual tobacco, Like, what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
A vape pen? At the football.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Game Seattle nin or football game I went to, and
I'm like, what's the allure?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's the allure of that? Like I understood the alllut
of cigarettes? Right, it was like romantic. It was in
the movies.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're doing something I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Speaking of which, that's funny that you mentioned that. I
just started watching a show called The Franchise. It's supposed
to be like the behind the scenes of a Marvel
superhero style series of movies, and one of the main
characters is constantly vaping, and I don't think I've ever
seen it before.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's popular TV movie.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I think I've not seen it at all.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I haven't either.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's so annoying.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
But if in like fifty years, then now there's a
movement to push that out of movies, like you like,
it's a big deal now to have somebody actually smoking
a cigarette as a warning.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, were you watching the franchise to get ideas about
space Wars?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So anyway, the kids.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
The kids and the things.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Here's the point is that parents in Norway are getting
more anxious and for the first time are feeling like
they're not doing enough, which is I think a way
that parents here in America have at least felt for
about twenty years, based on what I have at least
experienced through talking to experts.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And I want everybody to.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
Know this because if we start seeing Norway and other
Scandinavian countries start to fall from being like the happiest
place on earth. We now know that happiness is directly
correlated to how much you worry or care about.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Your children's happiness.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
And if we could go back to being the parents
that most of us had where they didn't care about
our happiness or what we thought that we would all
be happier.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Weirdly enough, make parenting great again? That what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Oh, if I started saying that my social circles, I would.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Get so much trouble parenting less about the kids again
again something like that, Well, clunky, we're work.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Shopping, right, We'll do that in the next break. I
don't need to do this on the air.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
Oh are you a watch? I see you're wearing watch,
but you wear an Apple watch.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I've always wore a watch.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I heard you talking about, like because Shannon has multiple watches.
When I was a kid, I always had a watch
from the time I was in third grade. It was
like a calculator watch because I thought that was fun.
But I didn't use it to cheat. I just liked
I've always liked having a watch.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Dude Houser, Yeah, this is an Apple watch.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
This is an Apple watch.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
You could do more than I'm But we're talking about
like people spending fifty grand on a watch.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
As a matter of we're gonna rag down watch collectors now.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I guess I have almost one hundred watches from forty
five thousand dollars to three hundred dollars, and I certainly
don't wear them to tell the time. I have an
eye watch for that. The eye watch is on a
lanyard around my neck.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'm so mad, bro, So I would hope you would.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Be kinder, gentler to watch collectors. Okay, I was.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Gary, Gary, Gary, and Shannon love you both anyway, Gary,
gold and diamonds. Come on, that's a great investment.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Watches.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
They are dumb, really, but gold and silver has kept
its value. And I'm sure those are made out of
pure gold, probably eighteen carrot plus and beautiful diamonds in them. Yeah,
good investment, and they're probably doubled in value, maybe tripled
in value.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Okay, I just want to throw this out there.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I was so upset.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah, if it's a good investment, don't you think more
people would do it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't think it was about the watch. I think
something else is gone on, about something else.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, it's possible, and he's taking it. I'm not going
to convince me to invest in watching watches.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
What about the other guy?
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Are you going to ease up on your TI raids
and rants against that's watch collectors that you've done.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
All of Today. To Shannon's point, there was not a tirade.
It was just a I don't understand why people buy
watches like that. Why would you do fifteen twenty thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I don't appreciate a nice watch on a man.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Not a time.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I've tried to get my husband to be a watch guy.
It's he's not a watch guy.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
What's a nice watch? Like? Is this?
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Is this?
Speaker 9 (31:08):
I watch a night like? Will you look at this
and go? That's a that's a solid risk on a
good man. No, okay, you could have waited until I
finished the question to start checking your head. All right, Debra,
I'm gonna cry again.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Please throw to Debra for crying out loud.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Don't know that's not That's a pretty couple, man, Stop it,
stop it pretty.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It looks pretty with your eyes.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Thank you, justin thank you. You've been listening to The
Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
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