October 25, 2024 • 25 mins
Gary and Shannon talk about LA’s soon to be traffic nightmare with several sporting events scheduled tonight and LA DA Georges Gascon’s decision on the Menendez Brothers cases.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. The former CEO of Abercrombie and
Fitch and two associates are expected to be a rain
this afternoon on Long Island on those federal sex trafficking charges.
Prosecutors accuse Michael Jeffries and two others of using their money,
power influence to prey on young boys for their own
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sexual gratification. They held sex events, according to the prosecutors
all over the world. Jeffries and at least one associate
will be in federal court this afternoon. A third is
being transported from Florida to New York.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The campaign stops in Texas today. Former President Trump is
in Austin. He's going to be talking the border. He's
going to be talking with Joe Rogan, Kamala Harris, the
Vice president is in Houston. She'll be talking about abortion
apparently and taking the stage with Beyonce and Willie Nelson.
The latest and apparently final New York Times Siena College
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pool for this election shows that they're in a dead heat.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Forty eight forty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's the best funded poll. I believe.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, it gets good.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It gets good reviews, shall we say from pole watchers.
The results are now, obviously less than two weeks before
the election. In recent elections, Democrats have had an edge
in the popular vote even when they have lost the
Electoral College and the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Therefore, so you could argue that a.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Forty eight to forty eight tie in the popular vote
would be an advantage for Trump going into November fifth.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
We are spread pretty thin here in Los Angeles today.
We have what they call a heightened security atmosphere as
we are host of several high profile sporting events. Really
started last night with Thursday Night football, and hey, you're
a Rams fan. The Rams are back right at those
receivers back Matt Stafford looks lights out, able to knock
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off the Vikings and just pick apart that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Justin. Jefferson was very angry last night.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I understand why so large crowds expected for the
lakers second home game of the season at Crypto dot
Com Arena. Usc football takes on Rutgers at the Coliseum.
You've got the East LA Big High school football game
with Garfield and Roosevelt halftime concert by Black Eyed Peas
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by the way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
At so Far Yeah, at the high school football game.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, and then of course the biggest one game one
of the World Series at Dodger Stadium. Mayor Karen bassaid
that she activated the city's emergency Response center to ensure
a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I did like watching some of that news conference that
she did yesterday from City Hall, just because she was
talking about how she's got it, she knows this is coming,
She's got to do this sort of a thing. But
she said, right after they won the championship Series over
the Mets, she immediately called for this to be set up,
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knowing that this was going to be a big day
in LA just because of the everything else that was
going on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So they say, if you're headed to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Pack your patients and dress warmly, but also bring a sweater.
Metro's Dodger Stadium Express ferries fans up to the ballpark
from Union Station and from the Harbor Gateway transit Center.
They said you can get past all of the car
traffic on sud Set thanks to their own dedicated laye there.
The service also runs after the game.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That sounds nice. There's some live traffic noise.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Sounds like traffic.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh, that's gonna be a lot of honking. Speaking of honks,
So did you see the picture. I don't know if
this is just the digital LA Times story on this event,
this mass security event or security test pre Olympic security test,
but the picture that they chose to print, at least
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on the print edition of the story is from Dodger
Stadium in twenty twenty I'm assuming or twenty twenty one.
Everyone's wearing masks and it's a Giants game. Yeah, and
it's this odd picture of the ground of just like
an officer standing outside of one of the gates of
Dodger Stadium and everyone's in masks and it's Giants fans.
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Why would you ever choose this picture to go along
with this story?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Do you think the people who are writing the stories
at the LA Times are big Dodgers fans outside of
the guys from.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The sports past.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't think you have to be a big Dodger fan.
I think you just have to have something bigger than
a brain stem to not choose this picture.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I will say this, I know a lot of people
who are not sports fans. I mean, couldn't tell you
the first thing about sports, and that it's the kind
of picture that they would choose.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay. Also, half of this article is about the altercations
at Dodgers games. Brian Stowe is mentioned, Okay, several fights.
Half the story three pages is about the security at
Dodger Stadium. If I'm paying fifteen hundred dollars for my
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World Series ticket, I'm not gonna get wasted off twenty
five dollars beers and get into a fight. That's not
what this crowd is. When they say pre Olympic security tests,
they mean security like for a UTA bomber or what
have you, not a drunken guy from East LA who's
gonna pick a fight with a Yankees fight. It could
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be Sonart, it could be any of these.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
What if it's Manhattan Beach, That's.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Not what it is. Actually, that probably is what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Hey, Gary Channon, love you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Go Dodgers.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Got to start off with that.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But this is SoSE from Lakewood.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just want to say that I'm on the one
ten freeway at the transition of the ninety one, heading
towards downtown.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
LA, and it's already bumper to bumper.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, I'm probably doing two.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Miles an hour two Most of the time my foot's
on the break.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I hope everybody gets to their destination safely.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Go Dodgers and let me guys.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Thank you, go blue out today. Let us know about
your traffic situation today, and are you brave enough to
drive a stick in traffic? I miss a manual transmission too.
I have read an article I think it was in
The Atlantic this week, and I almost put it in
the show at some point, but then I realized that
this is my own personal bugaboo. It's called or. The
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headline was the death of parallel parking, and like I
always thought that was like one of the major things
you need to know how to parallel park. And it's
growing up in the city and stuff like that, driving
a stick on hills and stuff like that. Parallel parking.
These are things that are going away.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
It's why we're softening.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's why we're softening. It's the automatic transmission. Real Americans
know how to parallel park right stiction and roll down
their window okay with the crank easy.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Presidential elections get plenty of people upset. This may be
one of the most nerve wracking elections we've seen in
a very long time. More than sixty percent of Americans
in a new poll say that their mental health has
been slightly, moderately or significantly impacted by the upcoming election.
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Forty six percent say they have anxiety, thirty seven percent
say they're stressed out, thirty one percent say they experience fear,
and they think about the upcoming election.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I feel all of those things when it comes to
the fact that Tua is going to start for Miami
this Weekend's.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That will generate tensiinge.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And tension, and is what I feel. Two has been
cleared to play against the Cardinals on Sunday, first start
since being concussed in Week two, that terrifying concussion that
we saw. They say he has met with numerous medical
experts who deemed it safe for him to play football again.
I say he was examined yesterday by an independent neurological consultant.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Doctor Nick Riviera from The Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It was probably one of those It's like an expert
witnesses at a trial. You know, you pay him enough,
they'll tell you whatever you want to hear. There is
a an awful story out of Washington State you may
remember we talked about it earlier. A fifteen year old
boy charged with the murder of his parents and three
of his siblings this week in the area called Falls City.
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It's east of Seattle as you head towards say snow
Qualmy Pass. It's outpasted Issaquah, very nice, mostly rural setting,
and they live on this place called Lake Alice with
you know, multi million dollar homes.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Their house was beautiful. I think dad was an engineer,
Mom was a nurse. Prosecutor said that this fifteen year
old kid called nine one one at about five in
the morning and said that his younger thirteen year old
brother had killed the family and himself because the thirteen
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year old was caught looking at pornography.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
There were other little kids like seven, I believe, and nine.
But an eleven year.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Old sister was shot twice, survived, was able to escape
the house, and at about the same time that the
fifteen year old called nine one one to lie about
what happened, the eleven year old had made it to
a neighbor's house, and the neighbor was able to call
nine one one and explain what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What a horrific story. It's all the way around.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
For some reason, the fifteen year old also had to
be told by the judge that they he could not
have contact with his little sister, which I don't know
if that was just a common thing, but that became
one of the headlines that came out of that story
that the judge told him specifically not to contact his sisters.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They say that with all of those.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That would make sense, And what kind of contact would
he have. I mean, he's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
In and he's a psychopath. Yeah, I mean to be
fifteen and come up with that story and slaughter your
family like that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The eleven year old said they had always had weapons
in the home and they were very careful with them,
that they all knew how to shoot, but that the
fifteen year old was the only one of the kids
who had the combination to the gun safe to get
access to them.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, that is wild, is an awful story. Well, we
saw this hail Mary being launched for quite some time.
George Gascone said it himself, the habeas petition did not
need to be dealt with until late November, but you
know what happens before late November.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
November fifth comes to November.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Fifth comes in early November, and he wanted to milk
the publicity cycle of this thing leading up to the election,
and so he decided to play politics with two spoiled,
entitled kids who killed their parents in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I believe that they have paid their debt to society,
and the system provides a vehicle for their case to
be reviewed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
By a parole bar and the parole.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Concurs with my assessment, and it will be their decision.
They will be released accordingly.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Of course, nobody, somebody who has never tried a case
does not understand the importance of evidence.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, there's that to your point about this being clearly
a re election tool, because he's being outraised by Nathan
Hockman somewhere like ten to one in terms of the
money falling into their campaign coffers. He was asked by
a reporter yesterday at this news conference about re election
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and Gascon loses his mind in the middle of this question.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I don't believe that the manslaughter would have been the
appropriate charge. Give him the premeditation that was involved in
the murders. I believe that this were clearly murders that
were premeditated now the motivation, that's where you know, the
differences of opinion come up. But I don't think it
will be appropriate to all the way down to man'slaughter,
for every election. Would you please stop. I am not
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going to talk about reelection. Okay, I will talk later.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, that's nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'm sorry you're interrupted, sir.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So my god, not protest too much.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, there's a staff member behind him, one of the
DA's office workers that was there, and tells the reporter,
I wish I knew who it was. Something like that's
in the inappropriate question. That is entirely appropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The timing of this is.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So us it's it's pretty ridiculous. The last piece is
sound from Gascoon.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I have to tell you that, after a very careful
review of all the arguments that were made for people
on both sides of this equation, I came to a
place where I believe that under the law, resentencing is appropriate,
and I am going to recommend that to a court tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
There's all of these conspiracy theorists that are getting so
much attention now because of the way the podcast game works.
Let's pick a case dissected and come up with a
different alternative ending and then sell you on that how
to do with the evidence, forget about all the evidence.
I want to pedal my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And some of them are very entertaining. Sure I leave
it at that, but it is entertainment. The idea then
that you And again not to say that some of
these podcasts aren't well researched, but you as a podcaster,
doing better research than.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Investigators, detectives, prosecutors, jurors that came to their own conclusions.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But there are cases listen and you bring that up,
and I think of your own backyard podcast, the one
about the Kristen Smart murder in.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sam Paul Flora is when it happens.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Which is weird, and I don't know why. I mean,
it doesn't You're right, it doesn't change. Most of the
detectives and investigators that were involved in that case had
their belief that it was Paul Flora's all along and
that his dad probably helped him. But they couldn't put
those pieces together. And not that the podcast put those
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pieces together. It just kind of filled in some of
the low spots.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
For Sometimes more attention to cold cases is a good
thing if you stick to the evidence, right. There's so
many of these that do not stick to the evidence.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, and this is one of those cases. Now, Kitty
Menendez was not.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The most likely thing. Oukham's razor right, it's the most
likely thing. There was mountains of evidence that these kids
were spoiled brats and that the gravy train was was done.
The parents were going to cut them off and they
wouldn't be able to live their lavish lifestyle. They didn't
want to go to work. They were flunkies at school
and at jobs, and they had no path towards living
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the lifestyle that they were living and that they wanted,
and they were frustrated, and they it was more than premeditated.
It was months. This molestation story is so far fetched
and so not the likeliest thing that happened. The fact
that a father would molest his own sons for decades
is insanity.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The person I think that's got the most attention is
Kitty Menendez's brother. He has not been speaking to the media,
but his attorney has. Her name is Kathy Katie, and
she said, among other things, this is exactly what George
Gascon does and what his pattern has been, which is
ignoring the victims of crime.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Despite repeated requests to mister Gascon that he meet with
my client so that he could hear both sides of
the argument, he has never done so. He has never
responded to mister Anderson. He has not listened to mister Anderson.
He has been ignoring mister Anderson, and that, unfortunately, is
what he does whenever he doesn't like people who have
opinions who go against him.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And to our point at last hour, you have to
have the conversation, even if you don't believe in what
the other person's saying, be open to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
She was on Fox this morning.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I think that the polls right now show him being
down thirty points, so it's pretty clear that he will lose.
But it's also clear he hasn't gotten any money. He
hasn't been able to raise any money, so holding press
conferences are essentially free media for him to get his
face in front of the viewers. And I think that
it was a last minute grab on his part to
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try to get his face in front of the viewers,
remind people of who he is, try to show that
he's whatever a sympathetic guy. I can't begin to get
into his mind.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's uh, Kathy, I want to play it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Kathleen Katie is a retired LA DA. She is somebody
who works pro bono for victims. She's the one who
will go to these parole hearings when Gascon came in
and told his attorneys they were no longer able to
go to parole hearings to fight to keep people in prison,
no longer able to go to those hearings and say,
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these are the facts of the case. This woman next
to me, her son was murdered, and this is what happened,
and that's why we need to keep this murderer behind bars. Now,
it's that very mother who has to go into these
parole hearings and make the case for keeping her son's
murderer in prison. Kathleen Katie is one of those people
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who has gone to these parole hearings to avoid that
from happening. Because Gascone doesn't care about crime victims or
their families.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I remember, the key piece of evidence that Gascone is
referring to when he talks about he wants to have
these guys resentenced is this letter that one of the
brothers allegedly wrote to a cousin describing abuse, described ongoing abuse, etc.
The letter never appeared. The letter appeared during the first trials.
The letter appeared in twenty fifteen. Right where did the
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letter come from? Well, and that's what she said earlier today.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I have received a number of emails and information that
would seem to indicate that the evidence that the Menendez
brothers are trying to put forward now may not be true.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's all she says.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I mean, but there's clearly something to be said about
her having represented Kitty Menendez's brother and that of the
family that believes these guys are guilty of sin.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And also go back in history, do your own research.
It's worth a google to find out the craze that
was going on in the late eighties about kids being
molested and abused. It was very in It was a
very in craze and concern that was going on. The
McMartin trial was one of the examples of this. And
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it's just all way too convenient that they were looking
for a way to get away with murder and this
is what they landed on.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Earlier, we talked about this statement from jd.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
He was at a News Nation town hall last night
with Chris Cuomo and was asked about what he believed
was the biggest threat to democracy. He went on to
say censorship, but added this line, which I thought was
important for all of us.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Don't cast aside family members in lifelong friendships. Politics is
not worth it. And I think we follow that principle
hill of the divide in this country.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I was curious if this has happened to people. I mean, yeah,
and if you don't have to tell me what side
you're on or who your vote doesn't matter, but you
just if there's a disagreement about politics that has upended
relationships that you have, or just.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Kept you from maybe reaching out and talking to a
friend or a family member, especially this time of year
as we get closer to the.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Election, because you know politics is going to come up.
You don't want to have that conversation. Exactly less than
two weeks before election day, we are seeing the campaigns
go through Texas.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Today.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Vice President Harris is in Houston, former President Trump is
in Austin. NBC News shows they're tracking shows almost thirty
three million people have already voted in this election, either
through mail in ballots or early in person voting. This
story actually came out. There are two things that prompted
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me to think about this today. Number one was this
study that came out that said over sixty percent of
a man can say that this election has damaged their
mental health to some degree. Forty six percent say they
have feelings of anxiety, thirty seven percent say they're stressed out,
thirty one percent experiencing fear. And this statement from jd
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Vance from yesterday in the town hall meeting that he
was doing on News Nation, and we can't This is
my most important advice.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Whether you vote for me, whether you vote for Donald Trump,
whether you vote for Kamala Harris, don't cast aside family
members in lifelong friendships. Politics is not worth it. And
I think we follow that principle will hill of the
divide in this country.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And we've we've heard it before.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We've heard from other politicians, other people, from family members,
from pastors, from friends, whatever. Do not let this be
the thing that destroys a relationship with a family member
or friend.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Morre Gary and Shannon, I just felt like I wanted
to say thank you for bringing this topic up because
I am an independent conservative and my parents are blue
card carrying Democrats and it has been really rough because
a lot of what I am fighting for I believe
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for my kids, and I am clashing so much with them.
So I appreciate the thoughts.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yep, it's not easy, but doesn't mean that you can't
talk about politics. Just don't you remember where politics is
supposed to fit in your world, right and your family's
supposed to be more important than that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well yeah, I mean, and it does come up, like
my mom is a very strong Democrat, always husband, and
if I say anything that is not favorable, well, it's
a sense of like because I am also like that him.
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I am more of a moderate independent conservative if I
had to pick. But it's it gets frustrating when the
like if Kama for instance, the instance I'm thinking of
is Kamala did one of her word salad moments and
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it was on the news or what have you, and
it was like, you know, I want to hear what
she has to say, and I said something like, she's
just gonna speak in a word salad. Oh, Shannon, you
don't know it. You don't know that. I'm like, no,
I do, because I'm watching and you know, and it's
just like those little ten moments and it's like, so
I just don't. I just don't say anything anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It doesn't mean that I'm going to talk to my
mother less. It's just I'm not going to bring anything up.
I'm not going to even say the words Kamala Harris.
I'm not going to say anything. I see the landmines.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, Gary, really, really you don't think this has occurred?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
No, I think it does.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Look at today the world everyone's divided. You don't think
this has occurred at home? I do you if you
can come up with some better material, work out something.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I don't think it's the milk.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I haven't talked to my own parents in weeks, maybe months,
because of the political rhetoric that goes on every.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Time in our house. Interesting they cannot stop.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I've asked them to talk about other things, family things, memories.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
No always political, and I get that too.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Even if there are family members or friends that I
agree with politically, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Want to talk about it. I'm the same way. I mean,
And I wonder if it's because we have to talk
about it here. I mean, I guess we don't have to,
but it is something that's going on, and I wonder
if I've just I'm talked out of it by the
time I go home or I live my real life.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Hi, Garyan Shannon, I'm not going to be able to
go back to Iowa for my sister's eighty fifth birthday
due to our differences in the election. I am going
to go after the election. I thought I would be
able to to go, but I just realized it would
cause way too much stress for the both of us.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, I guess that's I guess that's good that you
recognize it.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's just sad that that's the way it's got to be.
The relationship with my sudden law.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That hasn't changed. But about five years ago, during the last.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Presidential election, we declined a.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Our fiftieth anniversary free trip to Hawaii for a week
because we didn't want to spend a week with our
sudden law. This makes me so sad.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
With three days about as much as we can take.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, that's anybody though, right, Like that's par six aside.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
There is a time limit, right, there is a timeline.
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on the iHeartRadio app. The former CEO of Abercrombie and
Fitch and two associates are expected to be a rain
this afternoon on Long Island on those federal sex trafficking charges.
Prosecutors accuse Michael Jeffries and two others of using their money,
power influence to prey on young boys for their own
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sexual gratification. They held sex events, according to the prosecutors
all over the world. Jeffries and at least one associate
will be in federal court this afternoon. A third is
being transported from Florida to New York.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The campaign stops in Texas today. Former President Trump is
in Austin. He's going to be talking the border. He's
going to be talking with Joe Rogan, Kamala Harris, the
Vice president is in Houston. She'll be talking about abortion
apparently and taking the stage with Beyonce and Willie Nelson.
The latest and apparently final New York Times Siena College
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pool for this election shows that they're in a dead heat.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Forty eight forty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's the best funded poll. I believe.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, it gets good.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It gets good reviews, shall we say from pole watchers.
The results are now, obviously less than two weeks before
the election. In recent elections, Democrats have had an edge
in the popular vote even when they have lost the
Electoral College and the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Therefore, so you could argue that a.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Forty eight to forty eight tie in the popular vote
would be an advantage for Trump going into November fifth.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
We are spread pretty thin here in Los Angeles today.
We have what they call a heightened security atmosphere as
we are host of several high profile sporting events. Really
started last night with Thursday Night football, and hey, you're
a Rams fan. The Rams are back right at those
receivers back Matt Stafford looks lights out, able to knock
(01:58):
off the Vikings and just pick apart that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Justin. Jefferson was very angry last night.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I understand why so large crowds expected for the
lakers second home game of the season at Crypto dot
Com Arena. Usc football takes on Rutgers at the Coliseum.
You've got the East LA Big High school football game
with Garfield and Roosevelt halftime concert by Black Eyed Peas
(02:27):
by the way.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
At so Far Yeah, at the high school football game.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, and then of course the biggest one game one
of the World Series at Dodger Stadium. Mayor Karen bassaid
that she activated the city's emergency Response center to ensure
a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I did like watching some of that news conference that
she did yesterday from City Hall, just because she was
talking about how she's got it, she knows this is coming,
She's got to do this sort of a thing. But
she said, right after they won the championship Series over
the Mets, she immediately called for this to be set up,
(03:06):
knowing that this was going to be a big day
in LA just because of the everything else that was
going on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So they say, if you're headed to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Pack your patients and dress warmly, but also bring a sweater.
Metro's Dodger Stadium Express ferries fans up to the ballpark
from Union Station and from the Harbor Gateway transit Center.
They said you can get past all of the car
traffic on sud Set thanks to their own dedicated laye there.
The service also runs after the game.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That sounds nice. There's some live traffic noise.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Sounds like traffic.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh, that's gonna be a lot of honking. Speaking of honks,
So did you see the picture. I don't know if
this is just the digital LA Times story on this event,
this mass security event or security test pre Olympic security test,
but the picture that they chose to print, at least
(04:08):
on the print edition of the story is from Dodger
Stadium in twenty twenty I'm assuming or twenty twenty one.
Everyone's wearing masks and it's a Giants game. Yeah, and
it's this odd picture of the ground of just like
an officer standing outside of one of the gates of
Dodger Stadium and everyone's in masks and it's Giants fans.
(04:31):
Why would you ever choose this picture to go along
with this story?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Do you think the people who are writing the stories
at the LA Times are big Dodgers fans outside of
the guys from.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
The sports past.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't think you have to be a big Dodger fan.
I think you just have to have something bigger than
a brain stem to not choose this picture.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I will say this, I know a lot of people
who are not sports fans. I mean, couldn't tell you
the first thing about sports, and that it's the kind
of picture that they would choose.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay. Also, half of this article is about the altercations
at Dodgers games. Brian Stowe is mentioned, Okay, several fights.
Half the story three pages is about the security at
Dodger Stadium. If I'm paying fifteen hundred dollars for my
(05:24):
World Series ticket, I'm not gonna get wasted off twenty
five dollars beers and get into a fight. That's not
what this crowd is. When they say pre Olympic security tests,
they mean security like for a UTA bomber or what
have you, not a drunken guy from East LA who's
gonna pick a fight with a Yankees fight. It could
(05:47):
be Sonart, it could be any of these.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
What if it's Manhattan Beach, That's.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Not what it is. Actually, that probably is what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Hey, Gary Channon, love you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Go Dodgers.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Got to start off with that.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But this is SoSE from Lakewood.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just want to say that I'm on the one
ten freeway at the transition of the ninety one, heading
towards downtown.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
LA, and it's already bumper to bumper.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, I'm probably doing two.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Miles an hour two Most of the time my foot's
on the break.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I hope everybody gets to their destination safely.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Go Dodgers and let me guys.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Thank you, go blue out today. Let us know about
your traffic situation today, and are you brave enough to
drive a stick in traffic? I miss a manual transmission too.
I have read an article I think it was in
The Atlantic this week, and I almost put it in
the show at some point, but then I realized that
this is my own personal bugaboo. It's called or. The
(06:45):
headline was the death of parallel parking, and like I
always thought that was like one of the major things
you need to know how to parallel park. And it's
growing up in the city and stuff like that, driving
a stick on hills and stuff like that. Parallel parking.
These are things that are going away.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
It's why we're softening.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's why we're softening. It's the automatic transmission. Real Americans
know how to parallel park right stiction and roll down
their window okay with the crank easy.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Presidential elections get plenty of people upset. This may be
one of the most nerve wracking elections we've seen in
a very long time. More than sixty percent of Americans
in a new poll say that their mental health has
been slightly, moderately or significantly impacted by the upcoming election.
(07:36):
Forty six percent say they have anxiety, thirty seven percent
say they're stressed out, thirty one percent say they experience fear,
and they think about the upcoming election.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I feel all of those things when it comes to
the fact that Tua is going to start for Miami
this Weekend's.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That will generate tensiinge.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And tension, and is what I feel. Two has been
cleared to play against the Cardinals on Sunday, first start
since being concussed in Week two, that terrifying concussion that
we saw. They say he has met with numerous medical
experts who deemed it safe for him to play football again.
I say he was examined yesterday by an independent neurological consultant.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Doctor Nick Riviera from The Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It was probably one of those It's like an expert
witnesses at a trial. You know, you pay him enough,
they'll tell you whatever you want to hear. There is
a an awful story out of Washington State you may
remember we talked about it earlier. A fifteen year old
boy charged with the murder of his parents and three
of his siblings this week in the area called Falls City.
(08:47):
It's east of Seattle as you head towards say snow
Qualmy Pass. It's outpasted Issaquah, very nice, mostly rural setting,
and they live on this place called Lake Alice with
you know, multi million dollar homes.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Their house was beautiful. I think dad was an engineer,
Mom was a nurse. Prosecutor said that this fifteen year
old kid called nine one one at about five in
the morning and said that his younger thirteen year old
brother had killed the family and himself because the thirteen
(09:21):
year old was caught looking at pornography.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
There were other little kids like seven, I believe, and nine.
But an eleven year.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Old sister was shot twice, survived, was able to escape
the house, and at about the same time that the
fifteen year old called nine one one to lie about
what happened, the eleven year old had made it to
a neighbor's house, and the neighbor was able to call
nine one one and explain what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What a horrific story. It's all the way around.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
For some reason, the fifteen year old also had to
be told by the judge that they he could not
have contact with his little sister, which I don't know
if that was just a common thing, but that became
one of the headlines that came out of that story
that the judge told him specifically not to contact his sisters.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They say that with all of those.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
That would make sense, And what kind of contact would
he have. I mean, he's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
In and he's a psychopath. Yeah, I mean to be
fifteen and come up with that story and slaughter your
family like that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The eleven year old said they had always had weapons
in the home and they were very careful with them,
that they all knew how to shoot, but that the
fifteen year old was the only one of the kids
who had the combination to the gun safe to get
access to them.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, that is wild, is an awful story. Well, we
saw this hail Mary being launched for quite some time.
George Gascone said it himself, the habeas petition did not
need to be dealt with until late November, but you
know what happens before late November.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
November fifth comes to November.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Fifth comes in early November, and he wanted to milk
the publicity cycle of this thing leading up to the election,
and so he decided to play politics with two spoiled,
entitled kids who killed their parents in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I believe that they have paid their debt to society,
and the system provides a vehicle for their case to
be reviewed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
By a parole bar and the parole.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Concurs with my assessment, and it will be their decision.
They will be released accordingly.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Of course, nobody, somebody who has never tried a case
does not understand the importance of evidence.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, there's that to your point about this being clearly
a re election tool, because he's being outraised by Nathan
Hockman somewhere like ten to one in terms of the
money falling into their campaign coffers. He was asked by
a reporter yesterday at this news conference about re election
(12:07):
and Gascon loses his mind in the middle of this question.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I don't believe that the manslaughter would have been the
appropriate charge. Give him the premeditation that was involved in
the murders. I believe that this were clearly murders that
were premeditated now the motivation, that's where you know, the
differences of opinion come up. But I don't think it
will be appropriate to all the way down to man'slaughter,
for every election. Would you please stop. I am not
(12:31):
going to talk about reelection. Okay, I will talk later.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, that's nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'm sorry you're interrupted, sir.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So my god, not protest too much.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, there's a staff member behind him, one of the
DA's office workers that was there, and tells the reporter,
I wish I knew who it was. Something like that's
in the inappropriate question. That is entirely appropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The timing of this is.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So us it's it's pretty ridiculous. The last piece is
sound from Gascoon.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I have to tell you that, after a very careful
review of all the arguments that were made for people
on both sides of this equation, I came to a
place where I believe that under the law, resentencing is appropriate,
and I am going to recommend that to a court tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
There's all of these conspiracy theorists that are getting so
much attention now because of the way the podcast game works.
Let's pick a case dissected and come up with a
different alternative ending and then sell you on that how
to do with the evidence, forget about all the evidence.
I want to pedal my conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And some of them are very entertaining. Sure I leave
it at that, but it is entertainment. The idea then
that you And again not to say that some of
these podcasts aren't well researched, but you as a podcaster,
doing better research than.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Investigators, detectives, prosecutors, jurors that came to their own conclusions.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But there are cases listen and you bring that up,
and I think of your own backyard podcast, the one
about the Kristen Smart murder in.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sam Paul Flora is when it happens.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Which is weird, and I don't know why. I mean,
it doesn't You're right, it doesn't change. Most of the
detectives and investigators that were involved in that case had
their belief that it was Paul Flora's all along and
that his dad probably helped him. But they couldn't put
those pieces together. And not that the podcast put those
(14:54):
pieces together. It just kind of filled in some of
the low spots.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
For Sometimes more attention to cold cases is a good
thing if you stick to the evidence, right. There's so
many of these that do not stick to the evidence.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, and this is one of those cases. Now, Kitty
Menendez was not.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The most likely thing. Oukham's razor right, it's the most
likely thing. There was mountains of evidence that these kids
were spoiled brats and that the gravy train was was done.
The parents were going to cut them off and they
wouldn't be able to live their lavish lifestyle. They didn't
want to go to work. They were flunkies at school
and at jobs, and they had no path towards living
(15:37):
the lifestyle that they were living and that they wanted,
and they were frustrated, and they it was more than premeditated.
It was months. This molestation story is so far fetched
and so not the likeliest thing that happened. The fact
that a father would molest his own sons for decades
is insanity.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The person I think that's got the most attention is
Kitty Menendez's brother. He has not been speaking to the media,
but his attorney has. Her name is Kathy Katie, and
she said, among other things, this is exactly what George
Gascon does and what his pattern has been, which is
ignoring the victims of crime.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Despite repeated requests to mister Gascon that he meet with
my client so that he could hear both sides of
the argument, he has never done so. He has never
responded to mister Anderson. He has not listened to mister Anderson.
He has been ignoring mister Anderson, and that, unfortunately, is
what he does whenever he doesn't like people who have
opinions who go against him.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And to our point at last hour, you have to
have the conversation, even if you don't believe in what
the other person's saying, be open to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
She was on Fox this morning.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I think that the polls right now show him being
down thirty points, so it's pretty clear that he will lose.
But it's also clear he hasn't gotten any money. He
hasn't been able to raise any money, so holding press
conferences are essentially free media for him to get his
face in front of the viewers. And I think that
it was a last minute grab on his part to
(17:10):
try to get his face in front of the viewers,
remind people of who he is, try to show that
he's whatever a sympathetic guy. I can't begin to get
into his mind.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's uh, Kathy, I want to play it.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Kathleen Katie is a retired LA DA. She is somebody
who works pro bono for victims. She's the one who
will go to these parole hearings when Gascon came in
and told his attorneys they were no longer able to
go to parole hearings to fight to keep people in prison,
no longer able to go to those hearings and say,
(17:45):
these are the facts of the case. This woman next
to me, her son was murdered, and this is what happened,
and that's why we need to keep this murderer behind bars. Now,
it's that very mother who has to go into these
parole hearings and make the case for keeping her son's
murderer in prison. Kathleen Katie is one of those people
(18:06):
who has gone to these parole hearings to avoid that
from happening. Because Gascone doesn't care about crime victims or
their families.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I remember, the key piece of evidence that Gascone is
referring to when he talks about he wants to have
these guys resentenced is this letter that one of the
brothers allegedly wrote to a cousin describing abuse, described ongoing abuse, etc.
The letter never appeared. The letter appeared during the first trials.
The letter appeared in twenty fifteen. Right where did the
(18:35):
letter come from? Well, and that's what she said earlier today.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I have received a number of emails and information that
would seem to indicate that the evidence that the Menendez
brothers are trying to put forward now may not be true.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's all she says.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I mean, but there's clearly something to be said about
her having represented Kitty Menendez's brother and that of the
family that believes these guys are guilty of sin.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And also go back in history, do your own research.
It's worth a google to find out the craze that
was going on in the late eighties about kids being
molested and abused. It was very in It was a
very in craze and concern that was going on. The
McMartin trial was one of the examples of this. And
(19:25):
it's just all way too convenient that they were looking
for a way to get away with murder and this
is what they landed on.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Earlier, we talked about this statement from jd.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
He was at a News Nation town hall last night
with Chris Cuomo and was asked about what he believed
was the biggest threat to democracy. He went on to
say censorship, but added this line, which I thought was
important for all of us.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Don't cast aside family members in lifelong friendships. Politics is
not worth it. And I think we follow that principle
hill of the divide in this country.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I was curious if this has happened to people. I mean, yeah,
and if you don't have to tell me what side
you're on or who your vote doesn't matter, but you
just if there's a disagreement about politics that has upended
relationships that you have, or just.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Kept you from maybe reaching out and talking to a
friend or a family member, especially this time of year
as we get closer to the.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Election, because you know politics is going to come up.
You don't want to have that conversation. Exactly less than
two weeks before election day, we are seeing the campaigns
go through Texas.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Today.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Vice President Harris is in Houston, former President Trump is
in Austin. NBC News shows they're tracking shows almost thirty
three million people have already voted in this election, either
through mail in ballots or early in person voting. This
story actually came out. There are two things that prompted
(20:54):
me to think about this today. Number one was this
study that came out that said over sixty percent of
a man can say that this election has damaged their
mental health to some degree. Forty six percent say they
have feelings of anxiety, thirty seven percent say they're stressed out,
thirty one percent experiencing fear. And this statement from jd
(21:14):
Vance from yesterday in the town hall meeting that he
was doing on News Nation, and we can't This is
my most important advice.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Whether you vote for me, whether you vote for Donald Trump,
whether you vote for Kamala Harris, don't cast aside family
members in lifelong friendships. Politics is not worth it. And
I think we follow that principle will hill of the
divide in this country.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And we've we've heard it before.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We've heard from other politicians, other people, from family members,
from pastors, from friends, whatever. Do not let this be
the thing that destroys a relationship with a family member
or friend.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Morre Gary and Shannon, I just felt like I wanted
to say thank you for bringing this topic up because
I am an independent conservative and my parents are blue
card carrying Democrats and it has been really rough because
a lot of what I am fighting for I believe
(22:12):
for my kids, and I am clashing so much with them.
So I appreciate the thoughts.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yep, it's not easy, but doesn't mean that you can't
talk about politics. Just don't you remember where politics is
supposed to fit in your world, right and your family's
supposed to be more important than that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well yeah, I mean, and it does come up, like
my mom is a very strong Democrat, always husband, and
if I say anything that is not favorable, well, it's
a sense of like because I am also like that him.
(22:55):
I am more of a moderate independent conservative if I
had to pick. But it's it gets frustrating when the
like if Kama for instance, the instance I'm thinking of
is Kamala did one of her word salad moments and
(23:15):
it was on the news or what have you, and
it was like, you know, I want to hear what
she has to say, and I said something like, she's
just gonna speak in a word salad. Oh, Shannon, you
don't know it. You don't know that. I'm like, no,
I do, because I'm watching and you know, and it's
just like those little ten moments and it's like, so
I just don't. I just don't say anything anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It doesn't mean that I'm going to talk to my
mother less. It's just I'm not going to bring anything up.
I'm not going to even say the words Kamala Harris.
I'm not going to say anything. I see the landmines.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, Gary, really, really you don't think this has occurred?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
No, I think it does.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Look at today the world everyone's divided. You don't think
this has occurred at home? I do you if you
can come up with some better material, work out something.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I don't think it's the milk.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I haven't talked to my own parents in weeks, maybe months,
because of the political rhetoric that goes on every.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Time in our house. Interesting they cannot stop.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I've asked them to talk about other things, family things, memories.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
No always political, and I get that too.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Even if there are family members or friends that I
agree with politically, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Want to talk about it. I'm the same way. I mean,
And I wonder if it's because we have to talk
about it here. I mean, I guess we don't have to,
but it is something that's going on, and I wonder
if I've just I'm talked out of it by the
time I go home or I live my real life.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Hi, Garyan Shannon, I'm not going to be able to
go back to Iowa for my sister's eighty fifth birthday
due to our differences in the election. I am going
to go after the election. I thought I would be
able to to go, but I just realized it would
cause way too much stress for the both of us.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, I guess that's I guess that's good that you
recognize it.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's just sad that that's the way it's got to be.
The relationship with my sudden law.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That hasn't changed. But about five years ago, during the last.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Presidential election, we declined a.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Our fiftieth anniversary free trip to Hawaii for a week
because we didn't want to spend a week with our
sudden law. This makes me so sad.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
With three days about as much as we can take.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, that's anybody though, right, Like that's par six aside.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
There is a time limit, right, there is a timeline.
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