October 29, 2024 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon being the second hour of the show with Newsom announcing more funding for the homelessness crisis in California. Gary and Shannon also talk about their upcoming News-n-Brews!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. So does Gavin new some homelessness?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Okay, So here before we get to that, they were
talking while we were talking about baseball and Mayor Bass
was asked about specifically about what the plans are now.
Are we waiting for a parade? Is there something in how.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Can they celebrate safely? Also? Is there a parade being
planned right now?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Of course, first of all, go Dodgers, third game in
a row, one more.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're keeping our fingers.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It has been spectacular to see what we have done.
And then in going to hostile territory. I talked to
Mayor Adams last week. So our bet, I know you
have a bet going on too. Yeah, well our bet
is is that we want to see him in that
Dodger jersey at City Hall in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And we're not going to change.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Anything, but we'll all be watching tonight just to see
if we can like wrap.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This up quickly. Yeah. I don't know if may Or
Adams just taking a lot of phone calls lately. He's busy, Yes,
he's depending off some things going on criminal charges. Then
Governor Newson was asked about it.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Don't run the ninety yard dash.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Cautionary tale, just very brief. The Giants were going to
beat the Angels. It was a done deal. We bought
all this, all we had, all the hell tire parade
was all set up. We had a warehouse filled of
you know, all kinds of you know stuff, celebratory stuff, stuff,
whatever stuff. We lost that World Series. The good news
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is we won in twenty ten and we used all
of that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Uh, it made don't run the ninety yard dash? Finish
the race? Yeah, one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He didn't make sense. That didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You never heard that term before.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh, ok, I hate I hate it when people use
another sport for a sports Analogis it just sounds dumb?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You sound like an idiot.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Don't drop the ball before you get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Is he talking about in two thousand and two, did
the Giants win the first three?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
No, but they were up three games to two, right,
but they didn't win the first three.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, it's a different today. Come back and sweep right, No,
sweet dumbass.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Anyway, So now he's going to throw a bunch more
money at the homelessness issue. Can I just give a
precursor to this, Yes, because our memories are not great
when it comes to proposition spending. In twenty sixteen, we
approved in La County Proposition HHH, which authorized the city
to issue up to one point two billion dollars to
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put homeless people in homes, in apartments, in housing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What have you?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
One point two billion. What happened after we okayed that? Well,
four years later there was a forty five percent increase
in homelessness after we okayed one point two billion dollars.
We had nothing to show for it. In fact, we
were forty five percent off, worse off.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, but he came out today and suggested that this
is not the status quo. We have to.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Address the conditions on the sidewalks with laser focus and
prioritization these encampments intents. You've not been able to do
that and suffering on our watch. There's nothing humane about
stepping over people in the.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Streets or not treating their egyptions. Where's the humanity there?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
We're enforcing our energies and prioritization. At the same time,
as I noted, you've got to address the underlying issue
in the first place. But look, we are addressing those
rightful concerns that are expressed statify any today. We are
not announced seeing an old strategy. We continue to iterate
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in advancing a much more targeted strategy that's focused on results.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Hundreds of millions of dollars. He actually referred to when
he was governor, sorry mayor of San Francisco that the
state was not really involved with homelessness funding or homeless programs.
That it was Governor Jerry Brown who was the first
to really unleash some of the state money and send
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it to local municipal governments to try to handle some
of these issues that were coming up. But that, to
me is not an argument for continuing the same process
over and over again. Okay, so since Jerry Brown did
unleash some state money and send it to municipal governments,
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it's gotten worse, exponentially worse. But the best thing now
is to add another tab of eight. I think it's
eight hundred million total across the state that's now going
from state money to our state coffers to local coffers
so that the local governments can, in his words, realize
the gains themselves and figure out how to do it
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on the ground. I'm lost. I don't know why. That's
why I could never be a politician.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because you because you're not a horrible, narcissistic person who's
looking out for only your back pocket.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh, thank you, you're welcome. It's that you can't see
that this pattern continues. It's just the same thing over
and over again.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yeah, hey, Gary and Phonsie. As far as endorsements go,
in eighty four, I was on the editorial staff for
the State University of New York at Plattsburgh newspaper, and
we had a big argument over who to endorse, because honestly,
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the entire world really depends on the sunny Plattsburgh College
newspaper in order to know who to vote for take care.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Bye. Yeah, it's an excellent point, and I think that.
I mean it's echoed, yes, USA Today and Wall Street
or Washington Post and LA Times. They're big, big papers.
But I don't know anybody who waits until that endorsement
comes out before they make a decision on their own. So, yeah, Hayward,
I never heard anything about Anthony Rizzo. So wrong again, Gary, Well,
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Tom Verducci said it was Anthony Rizzo.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Back then Rizzo broke thetention by quoting his favorite movie
lines with no clothes on, the mood and the attire
a little more serious. Tonight, the meeting was quick. Rizzo
was the only one who spoke, and one player said
it was a bonding experience.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, I looked it up too. He did the naked
motivational speeches with the cubs. So there you go. Got
several different sources here.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Zero homelessness Functional zero is the term they're using for
Redondo Beach, and apparently that the La County Council of
Governments gave Redondo Beach the Functional zero Homelessness accreditation. Functional zero,
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according to them, means a community measurably solves homelessness by
making it rare, by making it brief when it does occur,
and then document the progress with a by name list
updated at least monthly. This is a complete They made
it up themselves with this. I mean it's a good idea,
it's a good goal. I'm just saying it's not a
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widely accepted definition of what functional zero homelessness is.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know how big of a problem it was
in Redondo Beach, which is relatively small, but the first
step was to get control of the city's petty crime problem.
Homeless people were being arrested for trespassing, disorderly conduct, and
drug offenses. So the city attorney back in twenty twenty
had the Superior Court in Torrents send a judge to
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Ronando Beach one day a month to conduct homeless court
so they would lead them to shelter and drug and
or alcohol treatment, which is what we've been saying for years.
You have to triage the problem. It's not a one
size fits all. It's not one band aid that works
for everybody. It's not just throwing people in a home.
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It is treating people who need treatment. If you don't
deal with that first, you're never going to get to
functional zero in LA.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the point that we've said over and over again
is you can't just have the carrot. Sometimes you have
to have the stick. And people who say things like, well,
you're arresting them for being homeless, no them for disorderly conduct,
or you're arresting them for trespassing.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You come in here hooked on heroin.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I Am not going to turn my head the other way,
because I care about you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's humane.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You're not going to hand me some flyers for some
treatment for you.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, And I'm not going to give you clean needles.
Do you use needles?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You do for heroin?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know, but I don't. I'm not going to.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, well, I'm not going to give you the whatever,
the straw. Okay, I'm not going to give you a
clean straw to snort your heroine. I'm going to be
hard on you because that's what humane is when you're
talking about the throes of addictions.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, and it's it's if you care, if you cared
enough about people as opposed to just making them some
sort of political game for you, right, if you cared
about the humanity that is out there on the street.
Treatment is the number one thing it is that those
people need.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It is it is and and you know there's all that. Well,
you can't go into treatment unless you decide want These
people cannot make a decision. They're not thinking clearheadedly, probably
not for weeks, months, years. Sometimes you've got to force
the issue just in case throwing them in treatment gives
them a moment of clarity in ten days where they
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go huh, that was really fed up living in a tent,
shoving needles in my arm right to.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Sharona Winnebago with four dogs and seven other people. Smell
like the point about it. That is frustrating, and you
made it right at the beginning. Ridando Beach is a
pretty small place in terms of comparing it to other
cities in this Their city of sixty eight thousand has
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actually dropped down the list of homelessness per capita down
to fifty first among the counties fifty six people's fifty
six cities that had homeless people in it. That's an
amazing drop based on the simple fact that they realize
step number one has to be petty crime issues. You
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have to get people off the street when they break
the law, and from that point forward you can talk
about treatment. Can you steer them into treatment, Can you
steer them into interim housing? Can you steer them into
work job programs or something like that. But simply saying
walking down the street and offering hugs and tickle time
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is not enough to get people off the streets.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I got a bunch of weird junk calls yesterday, right
every of them.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like I was saying, because I was getting those weird
text messages in the last couple of days. They're coming
after us.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
People speaking of coming after us, listen to this story.
Lisa Joyce lives in Vancouver, and over and over, as
she's walking down the street Vancouver, she noticed the crows
above her started to dive bomb her. They landed on
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her head, They took off again and again eight times
by her count. She was wondering why she had been
singled out, so she goes on Facebook and she finds
out that there's been a lot of women attacked by
crows recently, and they all have one thing in common,
red hair, long blonde hair, blonde hair. So she wonders
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if thelondir if the crows had a problem or a
beef with a fair haired person and they're just lashing
out at all fared haired persons. Turns out crows definitely
definitely hold a grudge. It's not just Vancouver, the Pacific Northwest.
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Here in La a guy named Neil Dave. They probably
didn't like guys with two first names. Neil Dave described
crows attacking his house, slamming their beaks against his glass
door to the point where he was afraid it was
going to shatter.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I've seen that movie. Did they also come down the fireplace?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's the birds? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Tippy Hedron, Yeah, yes, she fights for the elephants. I
interviewed her once about the elephants anyway. Jeane Carter is
a computer specialist in Seattle. He was followed by crows
that lurked outside his windows for the better part of
a year.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
He said, the crows would stare at me in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If I got up and moved around the house, they
would find any place where they could perch and scream
at me. If I walked out to my car, they
would dive bomb me. They would get within an inch
of my head. He knows why too. One day in
his backyard, he saw crows moving in on a robin's nest,
and so he launched a rake into the air. But
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he said he never imagined the crow's revenge would last
so long. Even learned to identify the bus he took
on the way home from work. Wow, they were waiting
for him at the bus stop every single day and
dive bombed me all the way home.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It on. He had to move. He had to move
because of the crows. Well, here's the thing. Neil Savadra
has said that he's trained crows. I wonder if you
could train a crow to go after somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, I know who we could ask John Marsluff. As
a professor, he has spent his career studying human crow interaction.
He describes the crows as flying monkeys because of their
aptitude as well as their large brains relative to their size.
He says that he has answered the question of how
long the crows hold a grudge, and that the answer
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around seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Listen to this story a decade ago?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Is this where he where's the mask?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh, that part disturbed me.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was weird.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
But we could talk about that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But a decade ago, Jill Bennett, a radio host there
in Vancouver, was relentlessly attacked by crows as she was
walking her dog. In fact, she was only able to
escape when she ducked into a parking garage. She says,
I've never done anything mean or violent toward the crows.
But when it happened again, she started keeping kibble and
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peanuts in her purse, and so she would just kind
of dispense this as she took her walks with the dog,
and a pair of crows took to following her like
a protective entourage. When a third crow with distinctive feathering
dive bombed her this past summer, the entourage went on
the offensive, chasing away the interloping crow. Mind you, this
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is ten years of paying off the crows. She likens
it to a mafia style shakedown. It's protection money, she says,
the price of knowing you will not be attacked from
the sky, she says.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
She calls it the crow tax.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That Doctor John marslof Guy works University Washington in Seattle,
and he studies these birds. He said seven crows were
captured by Oh. He captured these seven crows with a
net while he was wearing an ogre mask, and the
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birds were soon set free, but he said they episode
traumatized the crows and other members of the murder. That's
the group of crows that witnessed it. So to test
how long they would hold this grudge, he and his
research assistance would put on an ogre mask every once
in a while and walk around campus recording how many
crows let out the aggressive cause, which he referred to
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as scolding. The number of scolding crows crescendo, crescendoed. Around
seven years into the experiment, went around half the crows
he encountered cawed vociferously. But over the next decade, doctor
Marslof collected not yet published, the numbers of grudge holding
crows dually tapered off. During his walk in September, doctor
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marslave for Recorder in his notebook that he encountered sixteen
crows and for the first time, they all ignored him.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, And the thing is is they have that mob
mentality because crows only live seven to eight years. So
the newly the crows that were just born or hatched
or what have you, they don't even know about the grudges.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The others let them know.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, we know. You can learn to hate.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes we do. Babies don't come out hating, nor do crows.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, but they learn they learn it from watching us.
That's a good story. Oh, that's a good story. Current
Vice President Kamala Harris is delivering her closing arguments of
voters tonight at the Ellipse, which is the park that
is between the White House and the National Mall. There
similar to where Donald Trump addressed his supporters back on
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January twenty sixth. Sorry, January sixth, twenty twenty one. Jade
Vance couple of events in the battleground state of Michigan.
Tim Walls a couple of events in the battleground state
of Georgia today. Well, I'm not sure we're going to
tell me about it. I just don't know which hero
song you were. This is Bonnie Tyler. Yeah, that's the
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one with the synth drums, because the other one was
this one that I didn't know if this was more
your speed?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
No, absolutely not. Why would you ever think of that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Because Jennifer love Hewett, don't sleep on Mariah Carey hero?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did you sleep on that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I didn't even think about that one? To be honest,
it's a good one. I mean it's not bad, but
it's not Bonnie Tyler, and I think that's the important part.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But but Mariah Carey will tell you to look inside
your heart.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, nobody needs so.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You don't need to be afraid of what you are. Yeah,
that's not the there's an answer.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You not the hero that I'm talking about. Okay. A
Fresno police sergeant was ambushed via a murder suspect over
the weekend and shot several times and then chase the
guy down.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Wow, where was he shot?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Got into a gunfight in Fresno, No, in his body
and then got into a gunfight with the guy before
he was before the suspect was killed, Chuck Connors, No kidding.
So the current Fresno police chief is an interim police chief,
but she was describing exactly what he was going through.
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And then the mayor of Fresno, also a longtime police officer,
knew this guy there. She goes, let me turn that
up a little bit because I turned it down because
it's bunny timer or something.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
He was shot.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He didn't even say that over the radio.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He was shot.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He knew he was shot. He activates his body camera,
he's calling out that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He's in pursuit of this suspect, and he puts his
vehicle in drive and takes chase.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Chief Mindy Casto at that news conference yesterday she said
they will eventually release that body camera footage, which every
time you see it is just based on the description.
This sergeant shot at least twice in the legs, had
several shrapnel wounds from broken glass, etc. Because the guy
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was standing outside his driver's side door, and you could
see at least seven bullet holes in the door of
the car. One of the bullets apparently hit his taser.
That can't feel good now. Even if the bullet stops,
you're going to end up with a giant bruise on
that side of your body. They said it was the
department's first officer involved shooting of twenty twenty four. Fresno's
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Mayor Jerry Dyer, served as a police chief for eighteen years.
He's known this guy. In fact, he worked with him
for the entire time he was on the department.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
After you've been shot, it's not natural to pursue a
suspect like this sergeant did because he knew that he
was a danger, He presented a danger to the public,
and he was not going to allow that person to
get away.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I was wondering that very thing. How much of this
was pissed off?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You shot me? Oh you shot me, I'm going to
get you back? Or was it?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is somebody who's going to take shots and an
armed officer in public, not provoked?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
What have you?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And they? What else are they going to go on
to do? Probably both, there's probably both at play.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But even if those two things, but let's say let's
I'll give you that both of them are in play.
He knows he's got a duty to protect the people
of Fresno, and you shot you just shot me, right,
And that's but he had the presence of mind, like
the chief was saying, yeah, activate the body camera, right
to call for help, to call for an ambulance for
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himself and the suspect.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Usually you have no idea what kind of condition you
are in, right, It's like when that forty nine er
receiver got shot square going to with a signing and
like the story went that the paramedic, you know, could
tell he was you know, but he was like, am
I going to be okay?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Am I going to die? You don't know, you've never
been shot before. You have no idea, you know, you're
normally I think the normal response is you go to
kind of worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. Mayor Dyer, again, who was a longtime police officer, said,
when you consider the number of rounds that were fired
from close proximity and the number of rounds that struck
that patrol car and the rounds that ultimately struck this
sergeant both of his legs very, very fortunate that we're
not here today talking about the death of a police officer. Yeah. Now,
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the guy who did this, it doesn't matter what his
name is. Forty year old guy rolled up on the car.
So the sergeant was actually responding to a nine to
one to one call of a homicide and this forty
year old suspect that shot the officer was the suspect
in the murder, so he had something to prove whatever was.
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He fired two two three rounds from an ar pistol
before he drove off, and that's when the officer gave chase.
He was previously convicted. This may surprise you. He does
have a criminal sorry, did have a criminal record. He's
now room temperature. He was previously convicted for assault the
deadly weapon with a bat, previously arrested for duy, domestic violence,
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and weapons related charges. The pistol that he was using
again shocker. He was not legally allowed to own it. No, Yes,
he was breaking gun laws. No, they're still awaiting a
toxicology report on this guy to see if he was
under the influence of any drugs, but investigators said they
did find a controlled substance near him. This revealed after
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the shootout that he was the suspect in the homicide
that the sergeant was on scene to investigate, apparently with
some childhood friend found dead inside a home from gunshot
and stab wounds. And they said a very vicious crime scene.
This forty year old suspect a known gang member. But
investigator said they may never fully understand the motivation behind
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the murder or why he shot at that sergeant. So
I said that the community, the neighborhood, everybody that's living there,
very forthcoming with a lot of the information that was necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So all right, coming up next ballot drop, boss, boxes
set on fire?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Are we going to see more of us?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We'll get into all of the great swamp watch news
when we come.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh wait, it's way too early. I wasn't looking at
the clock.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Jacob's like, are you okay?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Are you having a stroke because we could talk about this.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I thought it said fifty six, not fifty four. I
maybe my eyes checked. Yes, we have a huge announcement
to make.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This is a pregame show, news and bruise for the
Luchador Brewing Company in Chino Hills coming up on Friday,
November eighth, pregame beca cause. The next day, on Saturday,
November ninth, they're hosting hops in the Hills at at
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at Lucidor and Chino Hills.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Are we just going to spend the night at Luchador
so we could go to both events?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I don't know if they have cots available to us, Yeah,
but they might. There is a there is a place
right across the street, get a couple of rooms. Yeah,
you could join like a super eight or something something
like that Econo Lodge motel. So did you take the
wife there first annual? No? Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Well, why do you know the location of I just.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Know where we've been. We've been to Luchador before.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, but why would you know? Like, why would that?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Why would I note that there was a forty nine
dollars a night motel next door? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did you need an ass implant or something?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They are holding their first annual Hops in the Hills
Brewfest on Saturday. We're going to be there on Friday
to help them set up. I think we're putting up
like pop ups and fold up tables and things like that.
But we're gonna be doing our news and brews out
there from Luchador Brewing in Chino Hills. A portion of
the proceeds, by the way, to the Hops in the
Hills Brewfest is going to be donated to the Chino
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Valley Firefighter Foundation. If you go on, we'll be Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You're right, I parked right outside that hotel. I know,
and I'll have you know it's one hundred and fifty
nine dollars a night, sir. Well, you got to know people.
But once you get in there.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The Chino Valley Fire Foundation, by the way, nonprofit dedicated
to promoting life, safety and welfare of the public through
educational programs, direct assistants, financial support, victims of tragedies, and
injured firefighters and their families as well. So this is
going to be an absolute blast. The Hops in the
Hills Brewfest is on Saturday, but we'll be out there
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on Friday getting everything ready for Hops in the Hills
with our friends at Luchador Brewing in Chino Hills. Friday
November eighth.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And Veterans Day is Mondays, So just make a four
day weekend out of it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Hell, get yourselves a couple rooms out there.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
For a buck fifty a night. Yeah, maybe you could
share one and we are giving away tickets to the
Hops and the Hills. So if you come to the
News and Bruise and get some of those tickets, just
amble across the street, Gramble, grab one of those suits.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Amble, amble. That's a good word.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Swamp wat schall, we come back. You've been listening to
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. So does Gavin new some homelessness?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Okay, So here before we get to that, they were
talking while we were talking about baseball and Mayor Bass
was asked about specifically about what the plans are now.
Are we waiting for a parade? Is there something in how.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Can they celebrate safely? Also? Is there a parade being
planned right now?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Of course, first of all, go Dodgers, third game in
a row, one more.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're keeping our fingers.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It has been spectacular to see what we have done.
And then in going to hostile territory. I talked to
Mayor Adams last week. So our bet, I know you
have a bet going on too. Yeah, well our bet
is is that we want to see him in that
Dodger jersey at City Hall in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And we're not going to change.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Anything, but we'll all be watching tonight just to see
if we can like wrap.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This up quickly. Yeah. I don't know if may Or
Adams just taking a lot of phone calls lately. He's busy, Yes,
he's depending off some things going on criminal charges. Then
Governor Newson was asked about it.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Don't run the ninety yard dash.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Cautionary tale, just very brief. The Giants were going to
beat the Angels. It was a done deal. We bought
all this, all we had, all the hell tire parade
was all set up. We had a warehouse filled of
you know, all kinds of you know stuff, celebratory stuff, stuff,
whatever stuff. We lost that World Series. The good news
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is we won in twenty ten and we used all
of that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Uh, it made don't run the ninety yard dash? Finish
the race? Yeah, one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He didn't make sense. That didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You never heard that term before.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh, ok, I hate I hate it when people use
another sport for a sports Analogis it just sounds dumb?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You sound like an idiot.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Don't drop the ball before you get into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Is he talking about in two thousand and two, did
the Giants win the first three?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
No, but they were up three games to two, right,
but they didn't win the first three.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, it's a different today. Come back and sweep right, No,
sweet dumbass.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Anyway, So now he's going to throw a bunch more
money at the homelessness issue. Can I just give a
precursor to this, Yes, because our memories are not great
when it comes to proposition spending. In twenty sixteen, we
approved in La County Proposition HHH, which authorized the city
to issue up to one point two billion dollars to
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put homeless people in homes, in apartments, in housing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What have you?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
One point two billion. What happened after we okayed that? Well,
four years later there was a forty five percent increase
in homelessness after we okayed one point two billion dollars.
We had nothing to show for it. In fact, we
were forty five percent off, worse off.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, but he came out today and suggested that this
is not the status quo. We have to.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Address the conditions on the sidewalks with laser focus and
prioritization these encampments intents. You've not been able to do
that and suffering on our watch. There's nothing humane about
stepping over people in the.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Streets or not treating their egyptions. Where's the humanity there?
Speaker 5 (03:43):
We're enforcing our energies and prioritization. At the same time,
as I noted, you've got to address the underlying issue
in the first place. But look, we are addressing those
rightful concerns that are expressed statify any today. We are
not announced seeing an old strategy. We continue to iterate
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in advancing a much more targeted strategy that's focused on results.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Hundreds of millions of dollars. He actually referred to when
he was governor, sorry mayor of San Francisco that the
state was not really involved with homelessness funding or homeless programs.
That it was Governor Jerry Brown who was the first
to really unleash some of the state money and send
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it to local municipal governments to try to handle some
of these issues that were coming up. But that, to
me is not an argument for continuing the same process
over and over again. Okay, so since Jerry Brown did
unleash some state money and send it to municipal governments,
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it's gotten worse, exponentially worse. But the best thing now
is to add another tab of eight. I think it's
eight hundred million total across the state that's now going
from state money to our state coffers to local coffers
so that the local governments can, in his words, realize
the gains themselves and figure out how to do it
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on the ground. I'm lost. I don't know why. That's
why I could never be a politician.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because you because you're not a horrible, narcissistic person who's
looking out for only your back pocket.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh, thank you, you're welcome. It's that you can't see
that this pattern continues. It's just the same thing over
and over again.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yeah, hey, Gary and Phonsie. As far as endorsements go,
in eighty four, I was on the editorial staff for
the State University of New York at Plattsburgh newspaper, and
we had a big argument over who to endorse, because honestly,
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the entire world really depends on the sunny Plattsburgh College
newspaper in order to know who to vote for take care.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Bye. Yeah, it's an excellent point, and I think that.
I mean it's echoed, yes, USA Today and Wall Street
or Washington Post and LA Times. They're big, big papers.
But I don't know anybody who waits until that endorsement
comes out before they make a decision on their own. So, yeah, Hayward,
I never heard anything about Anthony Rizzo. So wrong again, Gary, Well,
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Tom Verducci said it was Anthony Rizzo.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Back then Rizzo broke thetention by quoting his favorite movie
lines with no clothes on, the mood and the attire
a little more serious. Tonight, the meeting was quick. Rizzo
was the only one who spoke, and one player said
it was a bonding experience.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, I looked it up too. He did the naked
motivational speeches with the cubs. So there you go. Got
several different sources here.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Zero homelessness Functional zero is the term they're using for
Redondo Beach, and apparently that the La County Council of
Governments gave Redondo Beach the Functional zero Homelessness accreditation. Functional zero,
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according to them, means a community measurably solves homelessness by
making it rare, by making it brief when it does occur,
and then document the progress with a by name list
updated at least monthly. This is a complete They made
it up themselves with this. I mean it's a good idea,
it's a good goal. I'm just saying it's not a
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widely accepted definition of what functional zero homelessness is.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know how big of a problem it was
in Redondo Beach, which is relatively small, but the first
step was to get control of the city's petty crime problem.
Homeless people were being arrested for trespassing, disorderly conduct, and
drug offenses. So the city attorney back in twenty twenty
had the Superior Court in Torrents send a judge to
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Ronando Beach one day a month to conduct homeless court
so they would lead them to shelter and drug and
or alcohol treatment, which is what we've been saying for years.
You have to triage the problem. It's not a one
size fits all. It's not one band aid that works
for everybody. It's not just throwing people in a home.
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It is treating people who need treatment. If you don't
deal with that first, you're never going to get to
functional zero in LA.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the point that we've said over and over again
is you can't just have the carrot. Sometimes you have
to have the stick. And people who say things like, well,
you're arresting them for being homeless, no them for disorderly conduct,
or you're arresting them for trespassing.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You come in here hooked on heroin.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I Am not going to turn my head the other way,
because I care about you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's humane.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You're not going to hand me some flyers for some
treatment for you.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, And I'm not going to give you clean needles.
Do you use needles?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You do for heroin?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know, but I don't. I'm not going to.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, well, I'm not going to give you the whatever,
the straw. Okay, I'm not going to give you a
clean straw to snort your heroine. I'm going to be
hard on you because that's what humane is when you're
talking about the throes of addictions.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, and it's it's if you care, if you cared
enough about people as opposed to just making them some
sort of political game for you, right, if you cared
about the humanity that is out there on the street.
Treatment is the number one thing it is that those
people need.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It is it is and and you know there's all that. Well,
you can't go into treatment unless you decide want These
people cannot make a decision. They're not thinking clearheadedly, probably
not for weeks, months, years. Sometimes you've got to force
the issue just in case throwing them in treatment gives
them a moment of clarity in ten days where they
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go huh, that was really fed up living in a tent,
shoving needles in my arm right to.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Sharona Winnebago with four dogs and seven other people. Smell
like the point about it. That is frustrating, and you
made it right at the beginning. Ridando Beach is a
pretty small place in terms of comparing it to other
cities in this Their city of sixty eight thousand has
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actually dropped down the list of homelessness per capita down
to fifty first among the counties fifty six people's fifty
six cities that had homeless people in it. That's an
amazing drop based on the simple fact that they realize
step number one has to be petty crime issues. You
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have to get people off the street when they break
the law, and from that point forward you can talk
about treatment. Can you steer them into treatment, Can you
steer them into interim housing? Can you steer them into
work job programs or something like that. But simply saying
walking down the street and offering hugs and tickle time
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is not enough to get people off the streets.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I got a bunch of weird junk calls yesterday, right
every of them.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Like I was saying, because I was getting those weird
text messages in the last couple of days. They're coming
after us.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
People speaking of coming after us, listen to this story.
Lisa Joyce lives in Vancouver, and over and over, as
she's walking down the street Vancouver, she noticed the crows
above her started to dive bomb her. They landed on
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her head, They took off again and again eight times
by her count. She was wondering why she had been
singled out, so she goes on Facebook and she finds
out that there's been a lot of women attacked by
crows recently, and they all have one thing in common,
red hair, long blonde hair, blonde hair. So she wonders
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if thelondir if the crows had a problem or a
beef with a fair haired person and they're just lashing
out at all fared haired persons. Turns out crows definitely
definitely hold a grudge. It's not just Vancouver, the Pacific Northwest.
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Here in La a guy named Neil Dave. They probably
didn't like guys with two first names. Neil Dave described
crows attacking his house, slamming their beaks against his glass
door to the point where he was afraid it was
going to shatter.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I've seen that movie. Did they also come down the fireplace?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's the birds? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Years ago?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Tippy Hedron, Yeah, yes, she fights for the elephants. I
interviewed her once about the elephants anyway. Jeane Carter is
a computer specialist in Seattle. He was followed by crows
that lurked outside his windows for the better part of
a year.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
He said, the crows would stare at me in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If I got up and moved around the house, they
would find any place where they could perch and scream
at me. If I walked out to my car, they
would dive bomb me. They would get within an inch
of my head. He knows why too. One day in
his backyard, he saw crows moving in on a robin's nest,
and so he launched a rake into the air. But
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he said he never imagined the crow's revenge would last
so long. Even learned to identify the bus he took
on the way home from work. Wow, they were waiting
for him at the bus stop every single day and
dive bombed me all the way home.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It on. He had to move. He had to move
because of the crows. Well, here's the thing. Neil Savadra
has said that he's trained crows. I wonder if you
could train a crow to go after somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, I know who we could ask John Marsluff. As
a professor, he has spent his career studying human crow interaction.
He describes the crows as flying monkeys because of their
aptitude as well as their large brains relative to their size.
He says that he has answered the question of how
long the crows hold a grudge, and that the answer
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around seventeen years.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Listen to this story a decade ago?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Is this where he where's the mask?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh, that part disturbed me.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It was weird.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
But we could talk about that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But a decade ago, Jill Bennett, a radio host there
in Vancouver, was relentlessly attacked by crows as she was
walking her dog. In fact, she was only able to
escape when she ducked into a parking garage. She says,
I've never done anything mean or violent toward the crows.
But when it happened again, she started keeping kibble and
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peanuts in her purse, and so she would just kind
of dispense this as she took her walks with the dog,
and a pair of crows took to following her like
a protective entourage. When a third crow with distinctive feathering
dive bombed her this past summer, the entourage went on
the offensive, chasing away the interloping crow. Mind you, this
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is ten years of paying off the crows. She likens
it to a mafia style shakedown. It's protection money, she says,
the price of knowing you will not be attacked from
the sky, she says.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
She calls it the crow tax.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That Doctor John marslof Guy works University Washington in Seattle,
and he studies these birds. He said seven crows were
captured by Oh. He captured these seven crows with a
net while he was wearing an ogre mask, and the
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birds were soon set free, but he said they episode
traumatized the crows and other members of the murder. That's
the group of crows that witnessed it. So to test
how long they would hold this grudge, he and his
research assistance would put on an ogre mask every once
in a while and walk around campus recording how many
crows let out the aggressive cause, which he referred to
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as scolding. The number of scolding crows crescendo, crescendoed. Around
seven years into the experiment, went around half the crows
he encountered cawed vociferously. But over the next decade, doctor
Marslof collected not yet published, the numbers of grudge holding
crows dually tapered off. During his walk in September, doctor
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marslave for Recorder in his notebook that he encountered sixteen
crows and for the first time, they all ignored him.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, And the thing is is they have that mob
mentality because crows only live seven to eight years. So
the newly the crows that were just born or hatched
or what have you, they don't even know about the grudges.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The others let them know.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, we know. You can learn to hate.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes we do. Babies don't come out hating, nor do crows.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, but they learn they learn it from watching us.
That's a good story. Oh, that's a good story. Current
Vice President Kamala Harris is delivering her closing arguments of
voters tonight at the Ellipse, which is the park that
is between the White House and the National Mall. There
similar to where Donald Trump addressed his supporters back on
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January twenty sixth. Sorry, January sixth, twenty twenty one. Jade
Vance couple of events in the battleground state of Michigan.
Tim Walls a couple of events in the battleground state
of Georgia today. Well, I'm not sure we're going to
tell me about it. I just don't know which hero
song you were. This is Bonnie Tyler. Yeah, that's the
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one with the synth drums, because the other one was
this one that I didn't know if this was more
your speed?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
No, absolutely not. Why would you ever think of that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Because Jennifer love Hewett, don't sleep on Mariah Carey hero?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Did you sleep on that?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I didn't even think about that one? To be honest,
it's a good one. I mean it's not bad, but
it's not Bonnie Tyler, and I think that's the important part.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
But but Mariah Carey will tell you to look inside
your heart.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, nobody needs so.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You don't need to be afraid of what you are. Yeah,
that's not the there's an answer.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You not the hero that I'm talking about. Okay. A
Fresno police sergeant was ambushed via a murder suspect over
the weekend and shot several times and then chase the
guy down.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Wow, where was he shot?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Got into a gunfight in Fresno, No, in his body
and then got into a gunfight with the guy before
he was before the suspect was killed, Chuck Connors, No kidding.
So the current Fresno police chief is an interim police chief,
but she was describing exactly what he was going through.
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And then the mayor of Fresno, also a longtime police officer,
knew this guy there. She goes, let me turn that
up a little bit because I turned it down because
it's bunny timer or something.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
He was shot.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
He didn't even say that over the radio.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
He was shot.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He knew he was shot. He activates his body camera,
he's calling out that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He's in pursuit of this suspect, and he puts his
vehicle in drive and takes chase.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Chief Mindy Casto at that news conference yesterday she said
they will eventually release that body camera footage, which every
time you see it is just based on the description.
This sergeant shot at least twice in the legs, had
several shrapnel wounds from broken glass, etc. Because the guy
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was standing outside his driver's side door, and you could
see at least seven bullet holes in the door of
the car. One of the bullets apparently hit his taser.
That can't feel good now. Even if the bullet stops,
you're going to end up with a giant bruise on
that side of your body. They said it was the
department's first officer involved shooting of twenty twenty four. Fresno's
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Mayor Jerry Dyer, served as a police chief for eighteen years.
He's known this guy. In fact, he worked with him
for the entire time he was on the department.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
After you've been shot, it's not natural to pursue a
suspect like this sergeant did because he knew that he
was a danger, He presented a danger to the public,
and he was not going to allow that person to
get away.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I was wondering that very thing. How much of this
was pissed off?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You shot me? Oh you shot me, I'm going to
get you back? Or was it?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This is somebody who's going to take shots and an
armed officer in public, not provoked?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
What have you?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And they? What else are they going to go on
to do? Probably both, there's probably both at play.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But even if those two things, but let's say let's
I'll give you that both of them are in play.
He knows he's got a duty to protect the people
of Fresno, and you shot you just shot me, right,
And that's but he had the presence of mind, like
the chief was saying, yeah, activate the body camera, right
to call for help, to call for an ambulance for
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himself and the suspect.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Usually you have no idea what kind of condition you
are in, right, It's like when that forty nine er
receiver got shot square going to with a signing and
like the story went that the paramedic, you know, could
tell he was you know, but he was like, am
I going to be okay?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Am I going to die? You don't know, you've never
been shot before. You have no idea, you know, you're
normally I think the normal response is you go to
kind of worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. Mayor Dyer, again, who was a longtime police officer, said,
when you consider the number of rounds that were fired
from close proximity and the number of rounds that struck
that patrol car and the rounds that ultimately struck this
sergeant both of his legs very, very fortunate that we're
not here today talking about the death of a police officer. Yeah. Now,
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the guy who did this, it doesn't matter what his
name is. Forty year old guy rolled up on the car.
So the sergeant was actually responding to a nine to
one to one call of a homicide and this forty
year old suspect that shot the officer was the suspect
in the murder, so he had something to prove whatever was.
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He fired two two three rounds from an ar pistol
before he drove off, and that's when the officer gave chase.
He was previously convicted. This may surprise you. He does
have a criminal sorry, did have a criminal record. He's
now room temperature. He was previously convicted for assault the
deadly weapon with a bat, previously arrested for duy, domestic violence,
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and weapons related charges. The pistol that he was using
again shocker. He was not legally allowed to own it. No, Yes,
he was breaking gun laws. No, they're still awaiting a
toxicology report on this guy to see if he was
under the influence of any drugs, but investigators said they
did find a controlled substance near him. This revealed after
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the shootout that he was the suspect in the homicide
that the sergeant was on scene to investigate, apparently with
some childhood friend found dead inside a home from gunshot
and stab wounds. And they said a very vicious crime scene.
This forty year old suspect a known gang member. But
investigator said they may never fully understand the motivation behind
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the murder or why he shot at that sergeant. So
I said that the community, the neighborhood, everybody that's living there,
very forthcoming with a lot of the information that was necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So all right, coming up next ballot drop, boss, boxes
set on fire?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Are we going to see more of us?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We'll get into all of the great swamp watch news
when we come.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh wait, it's way too early. I wasn't looking at
the clock.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Jacob's like, are you okay?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Are you having a stroke because we could talk about this.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I thought it said fifty six, not fifty four. I
maybe my eyes checked. Yes, we have a huge announcement
to make.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This is a pregame show, news and bruise for the
Luchador Brewing Company in Chino Hills coming up on Friday,
November eighth, pregame beca cause. The next day, on Saturday,
November ninth, they're hosting hops in the Hills at at
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at Lucidor and Chino Hills.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Are we just going to spend the night at Luchador
so we could go to both events?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I don't know if they have cots available to us, Yeah,
but they might. There is a there is a place
right across the street, get a couple of rooms. Yeah,
you could join like a super eight or something something
like that Econo Lodge motel. So did you take the
wife there first annual? No? Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Well, why do you know the location of I just.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Know where we've been. We've been to Luchador before.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, but why would you know? Like, why would that?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Why would I note that there was a forty nine
dollars a night motel next door? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did you need an ass implant or something?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They are holding their first annual Hops in the Hills
Brewfest on Saturday. We're going to be there on Friday
to help them set up. I think we're putting up
like pop ups and fold up tables and things like that.
But we're gonna be doing our news and brews out
there from Luchador Brewing in Chino Hills. A portion of
the proceeds, by the way, to the Hops in the
Hills Brewfest is going to be donated to the Chino
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Valley Firefighter Foundation. If you go on, we'll be Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You're right, I parked right outside that hotel. I know,
and I'll have you know it's one hundred and fifty
nine dollars a night, sir. Well, you got to know people.
But once you get in there.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The Chino Valley Fire Foundation, by the way, nonprofit dedicated
to promoting life, safety and welfare of the public through
educational programs, direct assistants, financial support, victims of tragedies, and
injured firefighters and their families as well. So this is
going to be an absolute blast. The Hops in the
Hills Brewfest is on Saturday, but we'll be out there
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on Friday getting everything ready for Hops in the Hills
with our friends at Luchador Brewing in Chino Hills. Friday
November eighth.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
And Veterans Day is Mondays, So just make a four
day weekend out of it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Hell, get yourselves a couple rooms out there.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
For a buck fifty a night. Yeah, maybe you could
share one and we are giving away tickets to the
Hops and the Hills. So if you come to the
News and Bruise and get some of those tickets, just
amble across the street, Gramble, grab one of those suits.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Amble, amble. That's a good word.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
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