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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Influence on par with Henry Ford,
Thomas Edison, Bill Gates. That's how Harvard historian Henry Lewis
Gates Junior talked about Quincy Jones that he defined an
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era in the broadest possible way. Oprah Winfrey, who worked
with him he helped produce score the music for the
Color Purple, had a big hand in casting a very
young Oprah in that nineteen eighty five movie, said that
Quincy Jones on a bad day, does more than most
people do in a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Miles Davis put it this way.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Certain paper boys can go in any yard with any
dog and they just won't get bit.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
He just has it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Quincy Delight was his middle name, Quincy Delight Jones Junior,
born in March nineteen thirty three in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
That was his mom's middle name as well. His mom
was put in an institution when he was just seven.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Really dad was a semi pro baseball player and a carpenter.
Mother Sarah bank officer and apartment manager. He had a
younger brother named Lloyd, who passed away back in ninety eight,
said that he was exposed to music, religious music, early
jazz piano. His mother was an avid singer of spirituals
and next door neighbor of his helped Jones learn to
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tap out boogie woogie on the keyboard. When his mother,
like you mentioned, was institutionalized, he began to, you know,
hang out on the streets.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
One day, he's walking home.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
A group of guys pin him to a face, put
a knife blade into one of his hands, stabbed him
in the temple with an ice pick.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So dad said, yeah, it's time to move out of Chicago.
Time to go Bramerton, Washington. M hmm. His dad worked
in the shipyard there.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, future Souwn Naval Shipyard. When the war World War
two ended, they moved moved to Seattle. He eventually kind
of made his way through Seattle University, earned a scholarship
to now it's the Berkeley College of Music in Boston.
He joined Landel Hampton's Big band as a trumpeter and
a ranger. There was an article in The New York
Times that pointed out fourteen of his essential songs from
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all the way back to nineteen fifty seven with evening
in Paris. He was playing trumpet for this group, I
mean this piano that you hear right now, but he
was playing for this group Bernie mann Suits Simms, Hank Jones,
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Charles Mingus.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
One of my favorite stories is when he was fourteen,
he befriends a fellow teenager by the name of Oh,
I don't know. Ray Charles lasted a lifetime, but this
is what opened up a whole new world for Quincy Jones.
He said in Ray Charles, Quincy Jones found this emerging
prodigy of musician who played a blend of blues and
gospel and R and B. And so the two started
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playing together, and it was Ray Charles who urged Quincy
to pursue arranging and composing. Quincy saying, I met Charles
at fourteen. He was sixteen, but he was like one
hundred years older than me.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
One of the things about I mean, we talked about
Michael Jackson and the impact on that Michael Jackson career.
He also had I mean, every art, every artist that
you can think of from the sixties to twenty tens
had some association with Quincy Jones. But a lot of
the music that made him famous was the stuff like that,
you know, that evening in Paris where there were no lyrics.
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This is another one I did not know was a
Quincy Jones too. I mean, if you're of a certain age,
this was the Austin Powers song. It had nothing to
do with soul Boston Nova, which was Quincy Jones version
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of Brazilian music.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
He was asked to write the soundtrack for In Cold
Blood in nineteen eighty seven, and says that Truman Capodi,
who wrote the best selling book the film was based on,
tried to block Quincy from working on the film. That
he told him at the time, I just don't understand
why he'd want a colored man's music in a film
with no negroes. He said, I knew it was going
to be hard for a black guy to break into movies.
That musical score for In Cold Blood won an Academy
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Award nomination nineteen sixty seven, the first of seven times
he was nominated. He was a producer and composed of
theme music for Sanford and Son, The Bill Cosby Show,
among others. In two thoy eleven, he was asked by
the La Times to compare himself to Kanye West. Now remember,
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in twenty eleven, Kanye West was seen as this visionary genius.
He had not gone completely coupants yet. But Quincy Jones
seemed indignant. He said, did Kanye write for a symphony orchestra?
Did he write for a jazz orchestra? Come on, man,
he said, I'm not pulling him down or making a
judgment or anything, but we come from two different sides
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of the planet.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Good for him. What was the name?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I was just looking this up. What was the name
of that documentary? Oh? We Are the World. The story
behind the song was all about how that We Are
the World song came together and Quincy Jones obviously was
the producer on it, and how he was able to
get everybody into that room the night after the Emmys and.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Deal with all the personalities and all the pull I mean,
you think about the great you know politicians of the
past that were able to bring Congress together to agree
on something like this is the guy who could deal
with all the personalities, Like going back to Miles Davis's
quote that you know he could go in any yard
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with any dog, not get bit.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Other songs that appear on that list, by the way
of fourteen Central songs to describe his legacy, The Street
Beater from nineteen seventy two. I just played that, the
theme song to Sanford and Son Body Heat, Michael Jackson's
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough Just Once that was
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voiced by James Ingram turned him into a huge star.
Billy Jean from Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He did a lot of collaborations with Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra,
you mentioned Leslie Gore, It's my Party.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I want to put just a quick, just a word
of caution as we pay respect to Quincy Jones. One
of the songs on that list is from a Gregory
Peck movie called Mirage, And they said it's a pretty
obscure song because nobody you don't think of it, probably
wouldn't even know the name of it if you knew it.
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If you knew the song, it's called Booby Baby. Don't
type it in. Don't type in Booby Baby to a
Google search.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I just thought it was interesting that there was a
Gregory Peck connection, Truman Compodi connection, to kill a Mockingbird connection,
all those things.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
All right, what is it called booby What Booby Baby
just said? Don't search it Booby Baby's song. Well, I
didn't type in song. I just figured Booby Baby was enough,
and apparently it's not. It's not. Yeah, so just oh,
it's an instrumental. Well I know that now, I sure do.
Oh you typed that earlier? Did you see? Well? What
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do you think I saw? Booby Yes? And babies? Yes? Well,
what's wrong with that? Nothing? It's nature, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
If passed, Prop thirty six would see people who failed
to complete drug treatment jailed. Increased punishments for some theft
in drug crimes, including turn some misdemeanors into back into felonies.
I should say, requires courts to warn people convicted or
selling or providing illegal drugs to others that they can
be charged with murder if they keep doing so and
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someone dies.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's a funny thing because the way I've seen this
written up many times is similar to what it is
in Politico, that this is a turnabout triggered by a
pandemic era spike in property crimes, publicized videos of smash
and grab robberies, and shops locking up basic household goods
in response, and the way.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It could be my bias reading that, but.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It almost sounds as if someone's trying to justify the
need for justice and law and order in a society. Well,
it's only it's just a knee jerk reaction to stuff
that we've seen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Not computer generated images of people marauding through a department
store and taking out raw or even just three days ago,
after five days ago, I guess it was after the
Dodgers won the World Series, people thinking that breaking into
the Nike store is a great way to celebrate because
they know they're going to get away with it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's not just a knee jerk reaction.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
We've had years of PROPS forty seven and fifty seven.
We've had years of seeing what effects not enforcing law
and order and justice, what those effects are, And it's
more crime.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The criminals aren't stupid.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The words spread very quickly that they could steal up
to nine hundred and fifty dollars worth of stuff and
it's still being a misdemeanor. You get a slap on
the risk, you get your picture taken, you get released,
and the next game, next day goes steal another nine
hundred and forty nine dollars and fifty cents worth of stuff.
And that in that results in people not wanting to
go shopping. It results in people not wanting to go
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to those community hubs because they're terrified of all the
criminals that have overrun them.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It is, it is drifted into.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Orange County when you look at the brazen broad daylight
robberies that went on at Fashion Island and South Coast Plaza.
I mean when you get people rich people in Orange
County scared to go to their favorite high end stores, Well,
how does that affect the economy and the community and everything.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This article also points out that Prop thirty six echoes
what would have been Proposition twenty back in the year
twenty twenty, and that it was a similar measure and
that it was supposed to tighten up some of the
things that Props fifty forty seven and fifty seven loosened up.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But the timing of it was all wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's when the George Floyd protests were going on and
the like and everything.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, it would have They said that exquisitely poor timing
because a month before the twenty twenty ballot was finalized,
George Floyd's death occurred in Minnesota or Minneapolis, and Prop
twenty was asking US voters in California to move away
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from the trend that had been sort of more liberal
policing policies, more lenient incarceration rules and things like that,
right at a time when everybody was saying, that's what
part of the problem is is over incarceration and over policing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So that stood no chance.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Basically in twenty twenty, you voted no.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You vote to a pulling place person. I like to
get the temperature. I like to see how people are behaving.
Like this morning on the drive to work, it's like
peak election. Everyone is upset with everyone else moment this morning,
he'll cutting people off left and right. I think everyone's
just done with this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Was the time change part of your calcil? Oh, oh,
I'm glad you brought that up. You're welcome. No, And
I get in the car.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's a radio show on an FM radio show, and
Collar and called in and the DJ says, oh, how
are you doing on this this Monday, after the first
Monday since the time change? And the caller says, she says, oh,
you know, I'm getting there, And I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Like, what the hell, what the hell are you talking about?
You got an extra hour of sleep. You're getting there.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Getting there, getting where, I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What kind of struggle do you face when you get
an extra hour sleep?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I thought it was delightful yesterday. It's wonderful. And here's
the math on it.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Also, So you get an extra hour of sleep, and
if your body, you know, lets you, you stay in
bed for that extra hour, and then as the day
goes by, you're like, wow, I'm starting to get tired.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's only seven fifteen. And then you know what, go.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
To bed, go to get another great night sleep, yet
earlier than you expected.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Getting there, getting there, we're such weak. It's an hour.
It is an hour.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I'm not arguing in favor or against it, because
I do think it's a little archaic.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's still, let's not, you know, getting there.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
This week, with inflation continuing to cool, allegedly, the FED
is set to cut interest rates for a second time
this year. The Fed's future actions, they say, will become
more unsettled once a new president in Congress take office
in January, particularly if Trump were to win the White
House again. Trump's proposals to impose high tariffs on all
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imports and launch mass deportations of unauthorized immigrants, and his
threat to intrude on the fed's normally and independent rate
decisions could send inflation surging. Who do you think wrote that?
Do you think that was MSNBC? Do you think that
was CNN? No, that was your associated press with that
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highly slanted report, highly slanted.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know what they're doing now. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I used to be able to read their headlines and
be completely confident that, even though I had not pre
read it, that it would be completely not biased. And
now you start reading their simple headlines and it's wildly tilted.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
There's no there's no editors anymore that have any sort
of credibility to them.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's awful.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
There was an article in the New York Times today
that was discussing there was the New York Times, I
think at The Atlantic also had an article and it
was about the day after days, I should say, after
election Day being just as, if not more important than
Election Day itself. You've got obviously poll workers who tomorrow
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who have been up to this point in some places,
but tomorrow are going to be working their tails off
to get these votes counted. And that there is a
concern that during the interval between polls close and Winter
declared is going to be longer than we've seen in
the past. If you remember four years ago, it really
didn't come out until Saturday that most media organizations were
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going to be calling the election for Biden. It took
that long, and that interval, which could be a few
hours but most likely would be a few days. That
in that vacuum, everybody's going to be looking for developments,
and every little thing could potentially be amplified. The watchful
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press will be desperate for new developments. The conspiracy theorists
are going to be out there sewing chaos, sewing doubt
about what's going on, especially if it starts to look
like the polls are going away from whatever team they
think they're rooting for, then we're going to see some
some crazy things. So one of the questions that we
asked earlier was what is it that you do? I
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almost want to narrow it down. Is there a specific
kind of video that you look for to make you happy?
Smile and I keep it clean, but to smile.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Like the like the what is it jay? It's a
baby wail?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, something like that, or succulent Chinese male.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Maybe it's a maybe you have a whole playlist of
videos that's nothing but deployed soldier comes home to welcoming animal,
right and the dog runs down or the dog isn't
quite sure who they are, or babies wearing glasses for
the first time, or babies getting hearing aids for the
first time.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But no babies on the tarmac that have never met
their father because they were born while he was deployed.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh that does those are wow? Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
So let us know on the talkback feature on the
iHeart app what kind what have those videos that get
you every time? Because you're going to need some distraction
over the course of the next week or so.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
For me, it's bring out the olives from Morey Povich.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But that's cruel. Yeah, that's true. That is mean. You'll
have our thing that is really mean.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, we've got some red flag warnings this week, gusty
conditions to large areas of southern California, strong winds from
the north blowing across the San Fernando, Santa Clarita Valleys
Santa Monica Mountains. Of course, this raises the risk of
wildfires despite it being November. Some people in Porter Ranch
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reported gusts of sixty miles an hour. Santa Monica and
La X recorded winds in the twenty to thirty mile
per hour range.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, and do free I mean, obviously we think of
fires during the summer, but some of the largest and
most destructive fires have taken place in October, November, December
here in southern California. So we do expect highs and
low to mid seventies through this week. Warm temperatures expected
to remain pretty steady in terms of the high temperatures
that we will see as we get deeper into election week.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I guess you want to call it, hey, a reminder.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
One of the things that we can look forward to
is on Friday, that's this Friday, November eighth, we are
going to be live for our latest news and bruise
at Luchidore Brewing Company over in Chino Hills, all the
great stuff that we've had. We have had a couple
of great times there. They are planning the Hops in
the Hills event on Saturday, so we're going to be
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there and helping sort of pre game that show, maybe
preview what they're going to do.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
For Hops in the Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That is going to be unlimited beer tastings in Lucha
Libre wrestling and a live DJ and food and games
and raffles and free access to the after party. That's
Hops in the Hills on November ninth. And we're actually
going to be giving away tickets to Hops in the
Hills when we show up on Friday again Luchador Brewing
in Chino Hills. A portion of the tickets for Hops
in the Hills will be donated to the Chino Valley
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Fire Foundation. So it's not just a good time, it's
a good time for a good reason. And it's at
least a three day weekend because of Veterans Day on Monday,
so a lot of people, you might as well just
stretch that out into a four day maybe three and
a half day weekend and show up early at work
so that you could take off it, you know, in
early lunch and come by and say him.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I just don't go to work. I just don't go
to work. There's always that diarrhea, remember, works every time.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You don't actually have to no, you don't have to
go through with it to say it's a little white lie.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Are you ready for your Jeopardy question.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Sure, I've decided to give you something nice in this
season of angst. Okay, I'm going to do baseball questions, Well.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Who hit the most? Actually, no, I'm not going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, which player holds the record for most MVP awards?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The most MVP awards right now? I mean it's gonna
change when Sho Tani wins him all forever. Yeah, I
think of longevity. Yeah, MVP though, mm hmm, do you
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want to hint?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, when I say longevity, there's a big difference between
his rookie year card and the.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Last Barry Bonds.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yes, yeah, I was gonna say Barry Bonds or Mike
Trout but I don't think Mike Trout is.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He's on the list for multiples, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
One of the questions was who hit the most home
runs in a single baseball contest in any league? But
they don't tell you what the number is, which bothers me.
What's the answer, Jay Clark? Okay, he should it should
say in you know, he hit six, but.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That doesn't explain what level of baseball or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Canadian baseball player Catcher played in the MLB for nine
seasons with the Tigers, Cleveland's Cleveland Naps, Saint Louis Brown's
Phillies and Pirates back in the old days. He died
in nineteen forty nine.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I was going to say that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Would have been twenties and thirties prom so, all right,
six home runs, that seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, we are talking to reporters scattered throughout the country
on this election eve.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Leland Vittert is one of them.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
News Nations Chief Washington anchor and Leland if you look
at the polls, well, first of all, who's looking at
the polls? We all kind of stopped looking at them.
But it seems like this thing is a razor thin
margin that we're dealing with up until the election arrives tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
All said that the polling says things are very close.
I would suggest to you as you watch News Nation
tomorrow evening and into the morning, that before the sun
comes up, we will have a president. And that's because
the polling is going to break one way or the other,
meaning either the pollsters undercounted or underpredicted how many women
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were going to show up, especially young single white women,
or they undercounted how many iron workers and white working
class men and young Latino men, especially in Pennsylvania and Michigan.
We're going to show up for Donald Trump. So it's
going to go one way or the other. And my prediction,
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since you asked me, is that it will not be close.
Your election will not be close.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
So well, we've been talking about how the expectation is
that we're going to be kind of on the edge
of our seats for the next few days, and you're
saying you don't think that's going to be the case.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, very puissible that this. You know, there's a
scenario in which this goes until Sunday and then there's
all sorts of legal challenges and everything else. My general
rule is you never worry about the right things. So
the fact that everyone's talking about it tells me it
is probably not going to happen. Like in twenty twenty
two there was going to be a red wave, there wasn't,
and there was all sorts of preparations for violence in
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you know, county clerks were going to be overrun by
proud boys. That didn't happen either. So I just I've
done this long enough that whatever body every tells me
to worry about I generally don't.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I have this theory that a lot of people one
of the reasons why the polling was so wrong in
twenty sixteen is that a lot of people back.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Then would never admit that they were voting for Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That there is a section of the country that will
lie to their friends or their family, or the polls
or what have you, and just not admit it. I
almost feel like that section of America has grown in
eight years, the people that will just be closet Trump voters,
and that when you know it is an overwhelming victory
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on election night, that everyone will have the same scratching
their head, Wait, how could this happen vibe that they
had in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think that is a real possibility. I'll give you
one more. There's a real possibility that there's a hidden
Harris vote of women in rural America rule Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan,
also in suburban Georgia, who will, for lack of a
better term, break with their husbands. Juliet Roberts voice in
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ad saying the last place women have choice is in
the ballot box and vote your conscious and that we're
gonna wake up on Wednesday morning and say there was
a hidden Harris vote, as there was in twenty twenty two.
You know, the polls are wrong, and the way they
are in twenty sixteen, they're abslute, right, Donald Trump wins
in a landslide. If the poles are wrong the way
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they were in twenty twenty two, Harris wins in a landslide.
Twenty sixteen, the polling obviously missed exactly who you were
talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
How does News Nation determine which polls they keep an
eye on, which ones they trust?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Which one? I mean, how do you keep an eye
on the pollsters?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Boy, it's a great it's a great question, which is
you don't trust any of them. So we work with
Decision Desk HQ, who's the best data guys in the business.
They're the ones who make our race calls. And that's
what matters, right, you know, all the polls, all the punditry,
all the hackery, none of it matters on election Day
because then we have data and the American people are speaking,
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and that's what that's what will drive our coverage tomorrow
night and then through you know, through the inauguration into
the next president and Congress looking at how poles move over.
Time tells you which you know, who has momentum. But
the problem is is I got to look, you know,
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a week from now, I'll be able to tell you
who had momentum right now. I can tell you right
now who had momentum a week ago, but I can't
tell you who has it right now. You know, we
write about this a lot in war Notes, that's our
newsletter that comes out every day. And get a war
notes dot com to subscribe for free. And what I
think is so important is the smartest people, the smartest
pollsters are saying, we have no idea.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We were talking about the betting market.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's the betting markets currently have Trump and have a
sixty two percent chance of winning. And so you're gonna
hear from people that the betting markets are never wrong,
and they're not. But if you're a gambler, a degenerate
like I am, you know that the house always wins.
So if you know, if they're saying, oh, Vegas must
know something, that can be just a bunch of bologny.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Well listen, a little bit like betting on sports, right
that the sports book takes a cut, right, They just
want action but I'll give you a different way of
looking at this from a gambling perspective. Right, everybody saying, oh,
it's fifty five to forty five trump, it's the best,
it's sixty forty trump. Well they've knowld casinos based on
those odds, right, because if you have you play that
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game a thousand times or one hundred thousand times, the
house is going to win sixty forty. But if you
just play one hit in the blackjack it's fifty five
forty five or fifty three forty seven, whatever it is,
or one spin of the roulette wheel, well then it
doesn't really matter whether it's fifty five forty five or
fifty three forty seven or fifty to fifty. Anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, we'll watch you tonight on Balance with Leland Viddt
comes on four o'clock our time on News Nation. Leland
Vindt again News Nation's chief Washington anchor. Have fun over
these next few days.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Hey, this is this is like our Super Bowl. Al
Michael says, root for drama and we're going to have it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, that's very very well said.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
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