November 7, 2024 • 24 mins
Gary and Shannon start the show off by talking about President Biden giving a speech after VP Kamala Harris loss in the 2024 presidential election. Democrats are blaming Biden for Harris’ loss in the 2024 election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
We'll talk a little bit about that. There's some funny
not funny. This is not I don't mean to poke
fun at this. The Democratic Party is going through a
moment right now where they're trying to figure out what
do we do is what was the problem, why did
we not win, what is going on? How do we
change that in the future, what missteps are we making?
And I actually heard just a short time ago Julia
(00:30):
Riginsky's a long time Democratic strategist who has been lighting
this fire for years, saying, we've got to stop saying
latins or latinx or pronouns or We've got to stop
that because it doesn't make any sense. And I'll actually
play for you in a few minutes. We play for
you part of what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Furthermore, it's misunderstanding the Latino community, Yeah, which is a
very conservative community.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, and it's it's you.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Know, you get talk about keeping the family intact and
family values and all of that, the things that hold
true for Republican platforms for the most part.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That is the Latino community. They don't.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
They don't call themselves LATINX. They call themselves Americans who
care about the family unit. And and you know what
they're not also into is all of those fringe platform
sparkles that the Democratic Party goes after. Yeah, like you know,
gender reassignment surgery for prisoners.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, and that's it's I mean, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Of her point is like we've lost touch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yes, we keep trying to appease the weirdest, smallest little
groups so that they don't get offended, and we lose
track of the vast majority of the people that make
up the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So anyway, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There is something Obviously, the winds have continued, they've died
down significantly, but we are still dealing with wildfire of
course in Ventura County, the one that started in more Park.
It's burned well over fourteen thousand acres, prompted the evacuation
of about ten thousand people throughout More Park, Somas Camarillo
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in those areas. Ventura County officials say that winds that
have pushed this fire to the southwest could we could
see sustained winds of somewhere between thirty and fifty miles
an hour today and even gusts as high as one
hundred in some of those wind prone mountain locations.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So that fire we are not out of the danger
zone yet.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And this morning some of those images of those neighborhoods
just devastating. Ye have We will get an update on
that fire, we believe at ten o'clock is when Ventura
County is going to hold an update.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We'll bring that to you a live. Have you gotten
any laboo boos yet? I don't know. I saw that
word today and I have no idea you don't. I
still don't know it. How do you not know what
a laboo boo is? Well? I are you gonna make
me feel? It is April?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Every new release and restock of la boo boos have
sold out within minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Is it a clothing item? No?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Your ignorance on this matter is shocking. I think it's
about my ignorance.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Um.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You don't think it's about the laboo boos?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I don't. Sometimes it's not about the laboo boo.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Sometimes the la boo boo is the secondary to what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Grown men have fought over the laboo booths that you're
not clearing it up for me at all.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
They're little furry elf dogs. Oh stop it that this
is what they look like. They're a little there la
boo boos. See she's got a bunch of them hanging
off her purse. People are fighting for them. Yeah, they're
collector's items.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would a thousand times take the stuffed Jesus that
you have here.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Ahead of a laboo boo. They're really cute.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
They're like little elves, their little ears, little faces, and
they're furry.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Nope, do they squeak if you because it kind of
looks like a dog toy.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh, I think they're adorable.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Anyway, we'll get into the lubou bu craze that is
coming to Americas.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
President Biden addressed the nation earlier today. None of them.
I will do my stop president, stop, go ahead. I
have never heard none of this. How did he appear? Fine?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He did the little I'm going to run for four
steps and then slow down because I'm about to blow
out my pacemaker.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
I will do my duty as president. I'll fulfill my oath,
and i will want in the Constitution. On January twentieth,
we'll have a peaceful transfer of power here in America.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, he talked about you know how great it was
that his partner, Kamala Harris was able to show America
who she is.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
She ran an inspiring campaign and everyone got to see
something that I learned early on to respect so much
her character. But no, she has a backbone like a Ramrod.
She has great character, true character. She gave her whole
heart effort and she and her entire team should be
proud of the campaign they ran.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
All Right, does Joe Biden get blame for her loss?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Does she gets some of the blame.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
But Joe Biden can't take all of the blame because
there was no there there. Like I said yesterday, and
I kept thinking about this. You take over a job,
or you're running for a job, you're trying to get
a job, You're going to come to the table with
a lot of ideas things that you would do differently
from the person who had that job. And that was
so missing from the whole campaign. Well, there was no substance. Well,
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and the substance.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
In the first couple of weeks, there's almost an expect
There was an expectation I had, which was you don't
have to talk about substance. All you have to talk
about is this is an historic moment in the United
States of America. A woman of color, a woman, a
woman of color.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, she beat us over the head with that, and
I thought that that was a great move, right, But she.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Talked about it being a joyful moment. We're going to
talk about the positives. We're gonna be optimistic about the
future of the country. Because Trump was painting what was
criticized as a very negative view. We're a failing country.
We're garbage. You know, we're not doing what we should do.
Crime is so high, nobody can get ahead. The economy
is awful. He kept pointing to that and saying we
need to do better. She was saying, yes, we're great now,
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but we're fine.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then it got confused with but let's turn the page. Well,
what are we turning the pic? What are we turning
the page from. You are in office right now, you
are currently part of the administration. Are we trying to
turn the page from that? Or do you just not
want Donald Trump to become the president? Because that's a
different message, that's we have to prevent that guy from
taking office again.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
That's what it became. And then that's where it stopped.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It never got into the substance of These are the
policies that worked. These are the ones we need to
work on. These are the ones that I will introduce
that are unique to me. Whatever it was, none of
that stuff materialized.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
This is not Joe Biden's fault. It's not Kamala Harris's fault.
It's not Barack Obama's fault. Is the fault of the
Democratic Party and not knowing how to communicate effectively.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
This is Julie Roginski, a Democratic strategist. I saw her
on CNN this morning and I pulled this because it
made a lot of sense. I know that there was
a lot of post mortem going on the autopsy of
the loss, et cetera. How it is that Kamala Harris
was polling relatively well and then lost every battleground state,
like what exactly happened? And I mean different articles, different
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news outlets, different opinion writers will blame it on different things.
Whether it was her inability to cut through, if it
was Joe Biden's inability to pass the torch effectively, if
it was Barack Obama's fault because he couldn't rat, you know,
as sort of a figurehead at the top of the
Democratic Party because he couldn't galvanize black male voters to
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follow Kamala Harris whatever it was. She says, no, no, no,
it's none of that. It's not individual problems. Are individual
people that are the problem. It's the philosophies and the
practices of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We are not the party of common sense, which is
what the message that voter is sent to us. For
a number of reasons, for a number of reasons, we
don't know how to speak to voters when we address
Latina and language loves and language has meaning. When we
address Latino voters as Latin X, for instance, because that's
the politically correct thing to do, it makes them think
that we don't even live in the same planet as
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they do. When we are too afraid to say that, Hey,
college kids, if you're trashing a campus at Columbia University
because you aren't happy about some sort of policy and
you're taking over a university and you're trashing it and
preventing other students from learning that that is unacceptable. But
we're so worried about alienating one or another cohort in
our coalition.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That we don't know what to say.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
When normal people look at that and say, wait a second,
I send my kids to college so they can learn,
not so that they can burn buildings and trash lawns, right,
and so on and so forth. When we put pronouns
after names and say she her, as opposed to saying,
you know what, if I call you by the wrong pronoun,
call me out, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I won't do it again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But stop with the virtue signaling. This all can just
speak to people like their normal But that's not what
democrats do. We constantly try to parse out different ways
of speaking, different cohorts. Because our focus groups are polling
shows that so and so appeals to such and such.
That's not how normal people think. It's not common sense.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That made perfect sense to me. It all comes from
academia too. Yeah, and the newspapers. All of this labeling,
the whole pronoun movement, all of it comes from those small.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Little pockets that you see when you look.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
At a map of the country in terms of red
versus blue. It's the twenty five percent of people at
the New York Times are from the IVY leagues.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Those aren't real people.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Those aren't the people that are going to talk to
the people that exist in most of this country.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's it's mentality of those blue dots.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, you know, you look at for example, if you
look at the electoral map in not the electoral map,
but the election map in the state of Georgia, you've
got Savannah and Atlanta and maybe a place like Makeum
or something like that. But other than that, the rest
of that country, the rest of that state is bright,
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bright red. And then these pockets, these urban pockets of
the blue dots. And that's what they I kept hearing
referred to on Tuesday Night as the blue dots. It's
that mentality that you think you know better than the
rest of the of your state, or the neighborhood or
whatever it is, whatever location you're talking about. And her point,
Julia Riginski's point of we've got to stop hitching our
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trailers to these really super specialized, smaller factions of the party.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
One percent of people probably spend a lot of time
thinking about gender reassignment surgeries.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Unions are a great example of that, right. I mean,
you've got hard working people in the Upper Midwest, the
rust Belt area who are sick and tired of the union,
for example, the union heads telling them what to do.
They want to work, they want to have enough money
to pay for groceries and keep the lights on and
pay their mortgage. They're not concerned about whether their pronouns
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are properly indicated on their email signature.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You know you're an elite.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know that you have won life if that's what
you're concerned about, because most of America is concerned about
putting food on the table, right Yeah, it's and the
idea and the home and the family unit.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So will they do that? That's the concern.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Next hour, we'll talk a little bit more about what
Gavin Newsom has planned, because he's already taken steps to
get his name on the ballot for twenty twenty eight.
But is he capable of doing that if he thinks
he's going to step up and becomes sort of the
de facto leader of the Democratic Party, which I know
he wants, is he capable?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He's the wrong choice because he's everything that we just
pointed out. He's an elite, he's left, he has no
idea what goes on in most of this country. I mean,
anybody who goes to French laundry is not going to
be representative of this country period. We talked about the
President addressing the nation today, some Democrats are angry with
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Biden over the Harris loss. Joining us now Kelly Meyer
from News Nation about this, Kelly, are these small circles
of Democrats or is this a bigger message?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah? I mean I'm hearing various things from different Democratic sources,
either from Capitol Hill or Biden Harris world, that it's
blaming either Biden or the Harris campaign or just the
Democratic Party as a whole, saying that they aren't connecting
with Democratic voters. But there is also that factor of
President Joe Biden. There are people saying that he didn't
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drop out soon enough, that he should have not ran
and then given room for a democratic primary process where
we saw Dean Phillips trying to challenge him and say, hey,
you know, we should have more options here. But in
the end of at the end of the day, then
it all comes back to as well. Both President Biden,
the incumbent president, and the incumbent Vice president both were
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plagued with the issues of the last four years, which
Republicans were seizing on the economy and immigration and blaming
them both for that. So, whether it was President Biden
or Vice President Harris, they both were, you know, taking
the blame for the issues that were you know, appealing
to voters the most in this election, which were the
economy and immigration the top two issues for voters more
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so than abortion and the threat to democracy, which was
something that they both campaigned on on the campaign trail.
Then that message about former President Trump being a threat
to democracy and a danger wasn't as effective as Democrats
may have thought.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, almost whatever the post mortem looks like, it's almost
like they have to realize that the agenda that they
wanted to push may be completely opposite, at least in
terms of order of importance, completely opposite of what most
voters were thinking.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and I just don't understand why this message wasn't
received an agent of change for the Democratic Party in
twenty sixteen. I feel like the same shock in awe
is happening amongst Democrats of Trump winning again. How could
this happen? But they didn't have this crisis of conscience.
They stuck to these fringe topics.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Right, And a lot of people I talked to are saying,
let's just go in there and you know, gut the
DNC go and you know, bring in new people. A
lot of these campaigns they mentioned, quote recycling officials using
people from various campaigns, former campaigns and bringing them back in,
or even something I heard from covering in the Harris
campaign in Pennsylvania, some Democratic officials in the Philadelphia area,
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for example, said there were people coming in from the
Beltway from DC and taking over the campaigns and not
really knowing the people of that community and having a
different vision than maybe what they wanted. And even then
someone said, if she loses Philly, if she loses Pennsylvania,
it's on them because they had the opportunity to hear
us and listen to us and be on the ground,
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and they thought that they knew what they were talking about,
and apparently maybe they weren't. So there's a lot of
kind of come to Jesus moments, a lot of the
autopsy you mentioned. But then I have also sources that
are saying I'd prefer to look at, you know, living
bodies rather than do the autopsy and just kind of
focus on what can we do going forward. Let's look
at what President Trump or President elect Trump might do.
And let's see where we can go from here. And
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then President Biden, as we run the Rose Garden today,
said let's just focus on the next seventy four days,
close this out strong, essentially, and finish this administration.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I like that focus on the living bodies and not
the autops.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, but they do, though they do so potentially at
the risk of their own perils. And just the idea
that if you don't pay attention to what happened, then
you're just going to make the same mistake.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I mean, part of it was just not a
great candidate. You know, she didn't play nationally, She didn't
get a lot of national support, never had national presence
really aside from being vice president where nothing really was
done in the past four years in that regard out
of that office monumentally and you know, it never went
through the primary process and all of that. So that's
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part of it at one hundred percent. Was just not
a great candidate. But part of it is where's this
party going? Right?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And just going back to that, you know, I talk
with sources about you know, whether or not President Biden
could have you know, dropped out Singer, would she have
been the candidate or you know, the nominee, if there
was that primary process, if she wasn't kind of selected
to replace him at the top of the ticket. And
then you remember last year at this time, all the
polls were saying that President Biden was the one to
take on Trump. So he was given this confidence boost
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by those around him that he could be the only
one or he was the only one to take on Trump.
So it was why he didn't drop out, because I
was asking my sources, why didn't he just drop out?
Singer in any case too, But I guess he truly
did think he would the only one. And then just yeah,
looking at what they do going forward, do they make
these changes? And I think that's where they're at right now,
is really just going back to the drawing board and
really kind of reflecting inward. And I think mostly that's
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what all my sources came back to, is that, yeah,
we could blame you know, the Harris campaign for what
they focused on in their messaging in the final days.
Was it too much on Trump? Was it not enough
on the issues? They could blame Biden And did he
not drop out sooner? Why you know, why did he
even run a second time? But at the end of
the day, it all comes back to the Democratic Party
as a whole and what can they be doing differently?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Kelly, great stuff, Thank you, Thank you. Kelly Meyer there
with News Nation. You know the one name that I
have not heard when it comes to these articles and
opinion pieces about who Democrats can blame for this Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, because you think about the role that she played
in convincing the president to step down or to step
off of the ticket and pull out of the campaign. Yeah,
that she could have potentially wielded that power earlier. I mean,
I don't know the actual inner workings, but her name
hasn't come up that I've seen.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Elwood Edwards has died. Do you know who that is?
One of the Blues Brothers.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The iconic voice of AOL's You've Got Mail?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It was the day before his seventy fifth birthday and
when he died, as former employer wk YCTV Studios in
Cleveland confirmed the Sad News. He was a staple at
that station for years, worked as a graphics whiz, camera operator,
among other roles. But it was back in nineteen eighty
nine when Elwood struck gold earning worldwide fame as the
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voice of America onlines You've got mail message, He was
asked to record just four simple lines, Welcome, you've got mail,
files done, and goodbye. In exchange, he got How much
did he get for that voice over work? Ten thousand
dollars two hundred dollars what the company, known famously as
AOL blew up. Millions worldwide heard his voice every time
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they logged onto the internet.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Man, would you have the would you have the smart
to say? I'll I just give me one tenth of
one percent of the company's revenue each year.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I mean at the time, it was nothing. It was nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I did a voiceover for a makeup company once. Uh
you know it could have have you gone on to
be mad looreal. I think it was my husband who
said he passed on AOL stock right right at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I when I moved to Seattle in nineteen ninety eight,
everybody was like, you got to buy stock in this bookstore.
I was like, why would anybody name a bookstore Amazon?
That's so stupid. I would never do that. There are
a couple of people I know who were just dumping
money into Amazon stock and are very very well.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, Microsoft on we got that hot bitcoin tip at
the car dealership.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was bitcoin was six hundred bucks and yesterday we
we're talking it hit seventy five thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We were so dumb.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're just not risk takers when it comes to you know,
because we had invested in it, it would have died
then Murphy's law. Did you hear about the Emperor penguin?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, An emperor penguin is surprising Australians by turning up
on a beach thousands of miles from its Antarctica home.
The penguin showed up on Ocean beach in Western Australia.
The penguin was malnourished. The animal is now under the
care of a trained local wildlife carer. The rehab will
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take a few weeks for the penguin. I don't know
how they have a trained local wildlife care of penguins
in Australia. Do they even know what they're doing there
with this penguin?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sound very upset about that?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, I would get somebody from Antarctica, a lot of
people there to tom down and tell me how to
take care of the penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
A lot of people in Antarctica right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Now, somebody with some sort of knowledge, what kind of
Australian is going to know about taking care of a penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think Australians have an innate sense of animals.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well they do. They do have the Google. Let's see
if I can figure out how to care for a penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That'd be a great idea.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So a judge in Boise is considering arguments now from
prosecutors and defense lawyers over the merits of capital punishment
and whether Brian Coburger poses a future danger to others.
Brian Coburger is the man accused of murdering those four
University of Idaho students a couple of years ago, trying
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to figure out if he could be punished with the
death penalty if convicted. Prosecutors have said in their court
filings that these there are aggravating factors that exist in
this case, and they say that this is more severe
and that the death penalty would be warranted. Among them
the fact that there are multiple victims, that they were
especially heinous, atrocious or cruel, that the suspect exhibited utter
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disregard for human life, and that the Brian Coberger has
a propensity to commit murder, which will probably constitute a
continuing threat to society. Defense Lawyer has asked the judge
to strike the state's death penaltry request because he said
that executing Brian Coburger by lethal injection actually violates his
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right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. It's
the that's the ongoing question about death penalties and the
states that still do the death penalty. We technically here
in California still have it on the books. It's just
been under moratorium for six or seven years, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, here's what you do.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
If you come across a malnourished penguin, you need to
provideo No, I'm telling you right now. Oh, you need
to provide fish for the penguin to eat. Hand feeding
can ensure that the penguin gets enough nutrition. Not the
only way to feed it, but you can mix in
some hand feedings of the fish to the penguins. Yeah,
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go on, provide nesting boxes so that the penguin can
nest in the box. Okay, And that would increase breeding
success as well.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay, So start with fish, hands feeding, you said.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
And then.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So this is the order that I'm doing it right
so the fish. Yeah, feed it by hand, let it
sit in the box. Okay, got it, and for a
penguin saved.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
We'll talk a little bit about that. There's some funny
not funny. This is not I don't mean to poke
fun at this. The Democratic Party is going through a
moment right now where they're trying to figure out what
do we do is what was the problem, why did
we not win, what is going on? How do we
change that in the future, what missteps are we making?
And I actually heard just a short time ago Julia
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Riginsky's a long time Democratic strategist who has been lighting
this fire for years, saying, we've got to stop saying
latins or latinx or pronouns or We've got to stop
that because it doesn't make any sense. And I'll actually
play for you in a few minutes. We play for
you part of what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Furthermore, it's misunderstanding the Latino community, Yeah, which is a
very conservative community.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, and it's it's you.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Know, you get talk about keeping the family intact and
family values and all of that, the things that hold
true for Republican platforms for the most part.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That is the Latino community. They don't.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
They don't call themselves LATINX. They call themselves Americans who
care about the family unit. And and you know what
they're not also into is all of those fringe platform
sparkles that the Democratic Party goes after. Yeah, like you know,
gender reassignment surgery for prisoners.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, and that's it's I mean, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Of her point is like we've lost touch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yes, we keep trying to appease the weirdest, smallest little
groups so that they don't get offended, and we lose
track of the vast majority of the people that make
up the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So anyway, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
There is something Obviously, the winds have continued, they've died
down significantly, but we are still dealing with wildfire of
course in Ventura County, the one that started in more Park.
It's burned well over fourteen thousand acres, prompted the evacuation
of about ten thousand people throughout More Park, Somas Camarillo
(02:12):
in those areas. Ventura County officials say that winds that
have pushed this fire to the southwest could we could
see sustained winds of somewhere between thirty and fifty miles
an hour today and even gusts as high as one
hundred in some of those wind prone mountain locations.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So that fire we are not out of the danger
zone yet.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And this morning some of those images of those neighborhoods
just devastating. Ye have We will get an update on
that fire, we believe at ten o'clock is when Ventura
County is going to hold an update.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We'll bring that to you a live. Have you gotten
any laboo boos yet? I don't know. I saw that
word today and I have no idea you don't. I
still don't know it. How do you not know what
a laboo boo is? Well? I are you gonna make
me feel? It is April?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Every new release and restock of la boo boos have
sold out within minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Is it a clothing item? No?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Your ignorance on this matter is shocking. I think it's
about my ignorance.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Um.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You don't think it's about the laboo boos?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I don't. Sometimes it's not about the laboo boo.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Sometimes the la boo boo is the secondary to what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Grown men have fought over the laboo booths that you're
not clearing it up for me at all.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
They're little furry elf dogs. Oh stop it that this
is what they look like. They're a little there la
boo boos. See she's got a bunch of them hanging
off her purse. People are fighting for them. Yeah, they're
collector's items.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would a thousand times take the stuffed Jesus that
you have here.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Ahead of a laboo boo. They're really cute.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
They're like little elves, their little ears, little faces, and
they're furry.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Nope, do they squeak if you because it kind of
looks like a dog toy.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh, I think they're adorable.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Anyway, we'll get into the lubou bu craze that is
coming to Americas.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
President Biden addressed the nation earlier today. None of them.
I will do my stop president, stop, go ahead. I
have never heard none of this. How did he appear? Fine?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He did the little I'm going to run for four
steps and then slow down because I'm about to blow
out my pacemaker.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
I will do my duty as president. I'll fulfill my oath,
and i will want in the Constitution. On January twentieth,
we'll have a peaceful transfer of power here in America.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, he talked about you know how great it was
that his partner, Kamala Harris was able to show America
who she is.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
She ran an inspiring campaign and everyone got to see
something that I learned early on to respect so much
her character. But no, she has a backbone like a Ramrod.
She has great character, true character. She gave her whole
heart effort and she and her entire team should be
proud of the campaign they ran.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
All Right, does Joe Biden get blame for her loss?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Does she gets some of the blame.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
But Joe Biden can't take all of the blame because
there was no there there. Like I said yesterday, and
I kept thinking about this. You take over a job,
or you're running for a job, you're trying to get
a job, You're going to come to the table with
a lot of ideas things that you would do differently
from the person who had that job. And that was
so missing from the whole campaign. Well, there was no substance. Well,
(05:39):
and the substance.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
In the first couple of weeks, there's almost an expect
There was an expectation I had, which was you don't
have to talk about substance. All you have to talk
about is this is an historic moment in the United
States of America. A woman of color, a woman, a
woman of color.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, she beat us over the head with that, and
I thought that that was a great move, right, But she.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Talked about it being a joyful moment. We're going to
talk about the positives. We're gonna be optimistic about the
future of the country. Because Trump was painting what was
criticized as a very negative view. We're a failing country.
We're garbage. You know, we're not doing what we should do.
Crime is so high, nobody can get ahead. The economy
is awful. He kept pointing to that and saying we
need to do better. She was saying, yes, we're great now,
(06:24):
but we're fine.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then it got confused with but let's turn the page. Well,
what are we turning the pic? What are we turning
the page from. You are in office right now, you
are currently part of the administration. Are we trying to
turn the page from that? Or do you just not
want Donald Trump to become the president? Because that's a
different message, that's we have to prevent that guy from
taking office again.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
That's what it became. And then that's where it stopped.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It never got into the substance of These are the
policies that worked. These are the ones we need to
work on. These are the ones that I will introduce
that are unique to me. Whatever it was, none of
that stuff materialized.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
This is not Joe Biden's fault. It's not Kamala Harris's fault.
It's not Barack Obama's fault. Is the fault of the
Democratic Party and not knowing how to communicate effectively.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
This is Julie Roginski, a Democratic strategist. I saw her
on CNN this morning and I pulled this because it
made a lot of sense. I know that there was
a lot of post mortem going on the autopsy of
the loss, et cetera. How it is that Kamala Harris
was polling relatively well and then lost every battleground state,
like what exactly happened? And I mean different articles, different
(07:39):
news outlets, different opinion writers will blame it on different things.
Whether it was her inability to cut through, if it
was Joe Biden's inability to pass the torch effectively, if
it was Barack Obama's fault because he couldn't rat, you know,
as sort of a figurehead at the top of the
Democratic Party because he couldn't galvanize black male voters to
(08:01):
follow Kamala Harris whatever it was. She says, no, no, no,
it's none of that. It's not individual problems. Are individual
people that are the problem. It's the philosophies and the
practices of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We are not the party of common sense, which is
what the message that voter is sent to us. For
a number of reasons, for a number of reasons, we
don't know how to speak to voters when we address
Latina and language loves and language has meaning. When we
address Latino voters as Latin X, for instance, because that's
the politically correct thing to do, it makes them think
that we don't even live in the same planet as
(08:36):
they do. When we are too afraid to say that, Hey,
college kids, if you're trashing a campus at Columbia University
because you aren't happy about some sort of policy and
you're taking over a university and you're trashing it and
preventing other students from learning that that is unacceptable. But
we're so worried about alienating one or another cohort in
our coalition.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
That we don't know what to say.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
When normal people look at that and say, wait a second,
I send my kids to college so they can learn,
not so that they can burn buildings and trash lawns, right,
and so on and so forth. When we put pronouns
after names and say she her, as opposed to saying,
you know what, if I call you by the wrong pronoun,
call me out, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I won't do it again.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But stop with the virtue signaling. This all can just
speak to people like their normal But that's not what
democrats do. We constantly try to parse out different ways
of speaking, different cohorts. Because our focus groups are polling
shows that so and so appeals to such and such.
That's not how normal people think. It's not common sense.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That made perfect sense to me. It all comes from
academia too. Yeah, and the newspapers. All of this labeling,
the whole pronoun movement, all of it comes from those small.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Little pockets that you see when you look.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
At a map of the country in terms of red
versus blue. It's the twenty five percent of people at
the New York Times are from the IVY leagues.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Those aren't real people.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Those aren't the people that are going to talk to
the people that exist in most of this country.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's it's mentality of those blue dots.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, you know, you look at for example, if you
look at the electoral map in not the electoral map,
but the election map in the state of Georgia, you've
got Savannah and Atlanta and maybe a place like Makeum
or something like that. But other than that, the rest
of that country, the rest of that state is bright,
(10:26):
bright red. And then these pockets, these urban pockets of
the blue dots. And that's what they I kept hearing
referred to on Tuesday Night as the blue dots. It's
that mentality that you think you know better than the
rest of the of your state, or the neighborhood or
whatever it is, whatever location you're talking about. And her point,
Julia Riginski's point of we've got to stop hitching our
(10:51):
trailers to these really super specialized, smaller factions of the party.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
One percent of people probably spend a lot of time
thinking about gender reassignment surgeries.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Unions are a great example of that, right. I mean,
you've got hard working people in the Upper Midwest, the
rust Belt area who are sick and tired of the union,
for example, the union heads telling them what to do.
They want to work, they want to have enough money
to pay for groceries and keep the lights on and
pay their mortgage. They're not concerned about whether their pronouns
(11:28):
are properly indicated on their email signature.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You know you're an elite.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know that you have won life if that's what
you're concerned about, because most of America is concerned about
putting food on the table, right Yeah, it's and the
idea and the home and the family unit.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So will they do that? That's the concern.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Next hour, we'll talk a little bit more about what
Gavin Newsom has planned, because he's already taken steps to
get his name on the ballot for twenty twenty eight.
But is he capable of doing that if he thinks
he's going to step up and becomes sort of the
de facto leader of the Democratic Party, which I know
he wants, is he capable?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He's the wrong choice because he's everything that we just
pointed out. He's an elite, he's left, he has no
idea what goes on in most of this country. I mean,
anybody who goes to French laundry is not going to
be representative of this country period. We talked about the
President addressing the nation today, some Democrats are angry with
(12:30):
Biden over the Harris loss. Joining us now Kelly Meyer
from News Nation about this, Kelly, are these small circles
of Democrats or is this a bigger message?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah? I mean I'm hearing various things from different Democratic sources,
either from Capitol Hill or Biden Harris world, that it's
blaming either Biden or the Harris campaign or just the
Democratic Party as a whole, saying that they aren't connecting
with Democratic voters. But there is also that factor of
President Joe Biden. There are people saying that he didn't
(13:04):
drop out soon enough, that he should have not ran
and then given room for a democratic primary process where
we saw Dean Phillips trying to challenge him and say, hey,
you know, we should have more options here. But in
the end of at the end of the day, then
it all comes back to as well. Both President Biden,
the incumbent president, and the incumbent Vice president both were
(13:24):
plagued with the issues of the last four years, which
Republicans were seizing on the economy and immigration and blaming
them both for that. So, whether it was President Biden
or Vice President Harris, they both were, you know, taking
the blame for the issues that were you know, appealing
to voters the most in this election, which were the
economy and immigration the top two issues for voters more
(13:44):
so than abortion and the threat to democracy, which was
something that they both campaigned on on the campaign trail.
Then that message about former President Trump being a threat
to democracy and a danger wasn't as effective as Democrats
may have thought.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, almost whatever the post mortem looks like, it's almost
like they have to realize that the agenda that they
wanted to push may be completely opposite, at least in
terms of order of importance, completely opposite of what most
voters were thinking.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and I just don't understand why this message wasn't
received an agent of change for the Democratic Party in
twenty sixteen. I feel like the same shock in awe
is happening amongst Democrats of Trump winning again. How could
this happen? But they didn't have this crisis of conscience.
They stuck to these fringe topics.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Right, And a lot of people I talked to are saying,
let's just go in there and you know, gut the
DNC go and you know, bring in new people. A
lot of these campaigns they mentioned, quote recycling officials using
people from various campaigns, former campaigns and bringing them back in,
or even something I heard from covering in the Harris
campaign in Pennsylvania, some Democratic officials in the Philadelphia area,
(15:00):
for example, said there were people coming in from the
Beltway from DC and taking over the campaigns and not
really knowing the people of that community and having a
different vision than maybe what they wanted. And even then
someone said, if she loses Philly, if she loses Pennsylvania,
it's on them because they had the opportunity to hear
us and listen to us and be on the ground,
(15:20):
and they thought that they knew what they were talking about,
and apparently maybe they weren't. So there's a lot of
kind of come to Jesus moments, a lot of the
autopsy you mentioned. But then I have also sources that
are saying I'd prefer to look at, you know, living
bodies rather than do the autopsy and just kind of
focus on what can we do going forward. Let's look
at what President Trump or President elect Trump might do.
And let's see where we can go from here. And
(15:40):
then President Biden, as we run the Rose Garden today,
said let's just focus on the next seventy four days,
close this out strong, essentially, and finish this administration.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I like that focus on the living bodies and not
the autops.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, but they do, though they do so potentially at
the risk of their own perils. And just the idea
that if you don't pay attention to what happened, then
you're just going to make the same mistake.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, I mean, part of it was just not a
great candidate. You know, she didn't play nationally, She didn't
get a lot of national support, never had national presence
really aside from being vice president where nothing really was
done in the past four years in that regard out
of that office monumentally and you know, it never went
through the primary process and all of that. So that's
(16:20):
part of it at one hundred percent. Was just not
a great candidate. But part of it is where's this
party going? Right?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And just going back to that, you know, I talk
with sources about you know, whether or not President Biden
could have you know, dropped out Singer, would she have
been the candidate or you know, the nominee, if there
was that primary process, if she wasn't kind of selected
to replace him at the top of the ticket. And
then you remember last year at this time, all the
polls were saying that President Biden was the one to
take on Trump. So he was given this confidence boost
(16:49):
by those around him that he could be the only
one or he was the only one to take on Trump.
So it was why he didn't drop out, because I
was asking my sources, why didn't he just drop out?
Singer in any case too, But I guess he truly
did think he would the only one. And then just yeah,
looking at what they do going forward, do they make
these changes? And I think that's where they're at right now,
is really just going back to the drawing board and
really kind of reflecting inward. And I think mostly that's
(17:12):
what all my sources came back to, is that, yeah,
we could blame you know, the Harris campaign for what
they focused on in their messaging in the final days.
Was it too much on Trump? Was it not enough
on the issues? They could blame Biden And did he
not drop out sooner? Why you know, why did he
even run a second time? But at the end of
the day, it all comes back to the Democratic Party
as a whole and what can they be doing differently?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Kelly, great stuff, Thank you, Thank you. Kelly Meyer there
with News Nation. You know the one name that I
have not heard when it comes to these articles and
opinion pieces about who Democrats can blame for this Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, because you think about the role that she played
in convincing the president to step down or to step
off of the ticket and pull out of the campaign. Yeah,
that she could have potentially wielded that power earlier. I mean,
I don't know the actual inner workings, but her name
hasn't come up that I've seen.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Elwood Edwards has died. Do you know who that is?
One of the Blues Brothers.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The iconic voice of AOL's You've Got Mail?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It was the day before his seventy fifth birthday and
when he died, as former employer wk YCTV Studios in
Cleveland confirmed the Sad News. He was a staple at
that station for years, worked as a graphics whiz, camera operator,
among other roles. But it was back in nineteen eighty
nine when Elwood struck gold earning worldwide fame as the
(18:37):
voice of America onlines You've got mail message, He was
asked to record just four simple lines, Welcome, you've got mail,
files done, and goodbye. In exchange, he got How much
did he get for that voice over work? Ten thousand
dollars two hundred dollars what the company, known famously as
AOL blew up. Millions worldwide heard his voice every time
(19:00):
they logged onto the internet.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Man, would you have the would you have the smart
to say? I'll I just give me one tenth of
one percent of the company's revenue each year.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I mean at the time, it was nothing. It was nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I did a voiceover for a makeup company once. Uh
you know it could have have you gone on to
be mad looreal. I think it was my husband who
said he passed on AOL stock right right at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I when I moved to Seattle in nineteen ninety eight,
everybody was like, you got to buy stock in this bookstore.
I was like, why would anybody name a bookstore Amazon?
That's so stupid. I would never do that. There are
a couple of people I know who were just dumping
money into Amazon stock and are very very well.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, Microsoft on we got that hot bitcoin tip at
the car dealership.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was bitcoin was six hundred bucks and yesterday we
we're talking it hit seventy five thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We were so dumb.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're just not risk takers when it comes to you know,
because we had invested in it, it would have died
then Murphy's law. Did you hear about the Emperor penguin?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, An emperor penguin is surprising Australians by turning up
on a beach thousands of miles from its Antarctica home.
The penguin showed up on Ocean beach in Western Australia.
The penguin was malnourished. The animal is now under the
care of a trained local wildlife carer. The rehab will
(20:40):
take a few weeks for the penguin. I don't know
how they have a trained local wildlife care of penguins
in Australia. Do they even know what they're doing there
with this penguin?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sound very upset about that?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, I would get somebody from Antarctica, a lot of
people there to tom down and tell me how to
take care of the penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
A lot of people in Antarctica right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Now, somebody with some sort of knowledge, what kind of
Australian is going to know about taking care of a penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think Australians have an innate sense of animals.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well they do. They do have the Google. Let's see
if I can figure out how to care for a penguin.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That'd be a great idea.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
So a judge in Boise is considering arguments now from
prosecutors and defense lawyers over the merits of capital punishment
and whether Brian Coburger poses a future danger to others.
Brian Coburger is the man accused of murdering those four
University of Idaho students a couple of years ago, trying
(21:42):
to figure out if he could be punished with the
death penalty if convicted. Prosecutors have said in their court
filings that these there are aggravating factors that exist in
this case, and they say that this is more severe
and that the death penalty would be warranted. Among them
the fact that there are multiple victims, that they were
especially heinous, atrocious or cruel, that the suspect exhibited utter
(22:06):
disregard for human life, and that the Brian Coberger has
a propensity to commit murder, which will probably constitute a
continuing threat to society. Defense Lawyer has asked the judge
to strike the state's death penaltry request because he said
that executing Brian Coburger by lethal injection actually violates his
(22:28):
right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. It's
the that's the ongoing question about death penalties and the
states that still do the death penalty. We technically here
in California still have it on the books. It's just
been under moratorium for six or seven years, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, here's what you do.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
If you come across a malnourished penguin, you need to
provideo No, I'm telling you right now. Oh, you need
to provide fish for the penguin to eat. Hand feeding
can ensure that the penguin gets enough nutrition. Not the
only way to feed it, but you can mix in
some hand feedings of the fish to the penguins. Yeah,
(23:08):
go on, provide nesting boxes so that the penguin can
nest in the box. Okay, And that would increase breeding
success as well.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay, So start with fish, hands feeding, you said.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
And then.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So this is the order that I'm doing it right
so the fish. Yeah, feed it by hand, let it
sit in the box. Okay, got it, and for a
penguin saved.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
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