December 4, 2024 • 31 mins
Gary and Shannon being the show with a BIG thank you to all the listeners who came out the 14th annua; Pastathon at the Anaheim White House. Gary and Shannon also talk about the UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brain Thompson, being shot and killed outside a midtown Manhattan hotel, the latest on South Korea and whether Ron DeSantis will be on Trumps cabinet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I was talking about my dog Peter, and said that
his grandmother had a dog very similar like it was
also a Scottish Terrier named Peter Shannon. Oh really yes,
And I said, that's a perfect name.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
For a dog.
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Do you know who sings that song?
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It was an outtake from his weekly sh the Countdown,
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Yes, that's a legendary sound bite. So good, Henry Gross,
I guess yeah, I had never heard of this dog
written about the death of a pet dog that belonged
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Speaker 1 (02:38):
Huge story out of Midtown, New York. This morning, the
CEO of United Healthcare in town for an annual investor conference.
Somebody knew the door he was walking into in that hotel.
Somebody A masked man who waited ten minutes outside in
freezing temperatures, then opened fire with a silencer from about
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twenty feet away, and then took off on a bike.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jessica Tish as the NYPD commissioner.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Many people passed the suspect, but he appeared to wait
for his intended target. The suspect fled first on foot,
then on an e bike, and was last seen in
Central Park on Center Drive early this morning. The victim
was removed to Roosevelt's Hospital, where he was pronounced Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The governor, the police commissioner, the mayor all say this
was a targeted attack, and they said it right away, Yeah,
no question about it.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, pre planned,
targeted attack. Millions of people will be enjoying the tree
lighting tonight, among other holiday events, and the NYPD will
be out there with them keeping them safe.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I might I say this might, you know, put a
damper on that a little bit this, but they I
think that was one of the main reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
They came out right away with that information that this
was not a random attack. So you can feel you
can feel safe going too the annual tree lighting. Unfortunate
that that has to be kind of a PostScript of
the story. Brian Thompson is his name. He's fifty years old.
Don't know much at this point. He was named chief
executive officer for United Healthcare in April twenty twenty one.
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United Healthcare, part of United Health Group, ranked fifth in
Fortune five hundred. The parent company abruptly ended at scheduled
conference this morning.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Obviously, he's been at United health for a long time.
Took over as the leader of the insurance unit a
few years ago, and before that he oversaw the Medicare
Medicaid businesses. He started working at the company twenty years ago.
Graduated from the University of Iowa ninety seven with a
business degree. The first thing that you think of, the
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first conclusion you might want to draw, is that this
is somebody who had United Health insurance and was denied
coverage for something. To me, that's the obvious that would
be the obvious go to, but such a specific target.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
As somebody who just got passed over for insurance wouldn't
know this guy what he looks like when the conference
was that's like a very I mean maybe, but like
that's a very manslaughtery kind of vibe, like I'm so
pissed off I got denied health insurance. I'm gonna go
kill the You wouldn't know where to start, really, if
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that was your emotional stability point. You wouldn't know where
this guy was, who he was when the conference was
going to be, what door he'd be using.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's this to me reeks of either money or.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sex, the two biggies, right, and maybe both maybe, but
that so it would be possible that whoever did this.
First of all, the edition of the silencer is important.
That's not just a common thing that happens, right. He
also that you're talking about the specifics of knowing which
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hotel the guy was in or maybe not apparently he
was going to he's staying in a hotel across the
street from where the conference was taking place. But the
fact that the shooter would know specifically what he looks
like and where he was going that early in the morning, and.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
She's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The conference wasn't even supposed to start until eight o'clock
in the morning, right, No, he was there an hour
and a half early.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The shooter had inside information from somebody close to Brian Thompson.
He had inside information of what he'd be getting there,
what door he'd be using, what he looks like, all
of the things. So this is going to be a
very big mystery. He is survived by his wife, Paulette.
She goes by Pauli Thompson, fifty one years old. Their
two children lived in Minnesota. Tim Walls, a Blast from
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the Past, commented on this as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I saw Lar with him.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I saw a picture of Brian Thompson with Tim Walls recently.
I mean, I don't know how recent it was. They
were in front of a step in repeat that had
like University of Michigan's logo on it or Minnesota sorry,
Minnesota's logo on it with a you know, the big
M stylized M.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
This is it's just a weird thing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What's interesting is watching CNN and Fox and the networks
covered this this morning because this is around the corner, right,
I mean, for all of them, they're all in that
in that Manhattan area they're talking about, Yeah, we saw
the cop cars flying by our windows outside and knew
that something huge had happened.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's right there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And the reference to Jessica Tish, that NYPD commissioner talking
about the tree lighting tonight. They're doing the tree lighting
at Rockefeller Center, which is four blocks with three blocks
away from where this guy was gunned down. I mean,
all of that is just it's a weird It is
a weird, weird case. We're going to do something a
little bit later. Also, I can't remember if we've done
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this before, but it always fascinates me findinancial secrets between spouses.
And I don't just mean like different bank accounts. I
mean you're hiding stuff from from your spouse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I saw this and it's always struck me. I mean,
my husband's a secretive person. I mean just by his
nature and.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
By what he does for work.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But he's not an open book, tell all out of
the gate like I am, Like I have no seat,
like I tell I share my thoughts everything right away.
I'm an impulsive person. I apologize profoundly and profusely, but
I'm totally open with my financial stuff we keep thinks separate.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
For the most part.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We've got a joint account for like you know, joint
expensive things like that. But I'm totally open about all
of that and where everything is. And but I would
and I have no idea, Like I know that I
know that he's got all that information somewhere, but I.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Have no clue.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, and I don't care. I don't care to know.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It's different because to me that the.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Connotation of the word secret means that there's something the
fairy is going on. True, And I don't think talk
about it. Your husband doesn't talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It, right, And I wouldn't be the one to talk
to you. I mean, I talked to my financial planning guy,
and it's having a conversation in Chinese. For me, I've
never taken to econ, I never took to any of that.
I don't I'm horrible with all of it. So it's
kind of would be a lost conversation anyway. Well, we
will talk about it later in this hour. That men
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are much more likely to have financial secrets than women.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'm curious as to why that is.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, well we'll talk about it. If you have If
you listen. It's totally anonymous. We're not going to tell
anybody who you are unless your spouse is listening to you.
Leave the talk back. They're not going to know either,
but leave us a talkback message. How do you handle finances?
And is there anything that you have kept secret from
a spouse for whatever reason. A couple news stories that
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we're following. We'll talk about it in a few minutes.
But Pete Hagseth is on Capitol Hill. This is the
guy who would be the nominee for a Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
He's talking to senators today.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Very reminiscent of when we saw Gates go to Washington
and talk to senators with with JD.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Vance by his side, and it did not go well.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's more stuff that came out overnight about this guy
being a booze hound and a womanizer.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And his mom went on Fox this morning to try
to defend that email.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh boy, do you do you have the audio of that?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Okay, because I haven't heard that night, I would be
curious to.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Wall Street Journal is also reporting that Trump is considering
loaded the idea of Ronda Santis see the second.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
One and showing growth.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, or is it just.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Is it just a little carrot that he wants to
throw out there for Ronda Santis.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So he gets all excited and then say and then
pull the rug out.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Mitt Romney.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Okay,
I was trying to get more funny. Oh okay, I
was like met Romney, Well he's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well no, wasn't it Amy. Weren't you onee who alerted
me to that one?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah? Remember right after Trump got elected, he was like,
went and had lunch with Romney and it was this
big photo op and they were talking about what position
he may have, and then he goes.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, he doesn't get one. Yeah wait this no.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Years ago? Eight years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, that makes more sense. Yeah, Cuba doesn't have any
power again. O fun, time to go to Cuba.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So here's the latest in South Korea. Top aids to
the president Yunsuk yu'll I have offered to resign this morning.
This guy faces widespread anger over his decision to put
in to affect martial law. He reversed that within hours,
but in the meantime political chaos. They say that he
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may be on his way out, so the chief of
staff has tendered it's his regular resignation. According to the
national broadcaster there, there are thousands of protesters outside the
National Assembly.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's a mess.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
There are six opposition parties that have submitted a motion
to force him from office, likely to be formally introduced
in the legislature there in South Korea Thursday morning, which
is actually just a few hours from now, so they
could see a vote as early as Friday. They can
impeach the president.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The National Assembly can if more than two thirds of
lawmakers vote for it. His party controls one hundred and
eight seats in the three hundred member legislature, so technically
this could definitely happen. This guy has been in a
political standoff with the opposing party which controls the parliament,
the National Assembly there.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I mean, we are not immune, we the United States,
we are not immune from something crazy like this happening.
And it feels like we've tiptoed to this kind of
dramatic government breakdown before and backed away from it. But
imagine this, just before dawn yesterday, while we were doing
the show we're doing Pastathon, all of this was going on,
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So just before dawn less than six hours after he
imposed emergency martial law, he rescinded his emergency martial law.
He said originally he was put in to stop the
anti state activities in the National Assembly. He then deployed
a few hundred troops around the legislature, but the legislators
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literally climbed fences to get back into the chamber so
that they could then vote and overturn his decision.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is what some say Trump will do. He will
use the military to go against people who don't agree
with him politically. That's essentially what happened in South Korea.
The president was pissed off with the opposing party running
the legislature, so he put in to affect martial law
to just get rid of any sort of political demonstration
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or what have you, to silence the opposing party. You know,
this is not unlike what we saw on January sixth, Right,
this is what we saw yesterday in South Korea, with
people pissed off storming the capitol, chanting, protesting outside, setting
fires a whole bit.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would argue that the difference would be in that instance,
the military would have kept them, you know, would have
the concern I think for a lot of people is
that the military would have been used. Trump would have
used the military to shut down the congressional proceedings, when
in fact they would have been used to protect the
congressional proceedings.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Right, But this is and I don't think that this
is the same thing. I'm just saying that this is
what people think Trump will do.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Right, Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The investigation continues in New York after United Healthcare CEO
shot and killed outside a Midtown hotel this morning. Fifty
year old Brian Thompson, heads up United Healthcare is and
insurance division in the city for a conference at the
Hilton Midtown, shot in the chest just before seven o'clock
local time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
They say this was a targeted attack. Everyone says it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The police commissioner, the mayor, the governor of New York says.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
This was a masked man.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He waited outside in freezing temperatures for ten minutes, knew
which door Brian Thompson was going to walk in. He
used a silencer and shot him from twenty feet away
and took off on an e bike into Central Park.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Has not been found.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The conspiracy theories abound right now because there's so little
information about what's going on. It might be very very simple,
could be a very simple explanation, but we'll see it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
If the NYPD has information that comes up, we will
definitely will definitely bring it to you.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Supreme Court has been.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hearing arguments in its second major transgender rights case. This
is stemming from a challenge to a Tennessee law that
bands gender affirming care for minors. This decision is actually
not expected for several months. We'll see it sometime early summer.
Probably could affect similar laws that were enacted by twenty
plus other states in a range of other efforts to
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regulate the lives of the way this is written by
the APIs a little misleading. It says to regulate the
lives of transgender people. It's very specifically talking about medical
interventions for children and whether or not they require a
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more specific protection than would an adult trying to get
the same care.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you hear about the woman in Pennsylvania who may
have fallen into a sinkhole looking for a cat.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, they can't find her.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sixty four year old Elizabeth Pollard. Emergency responders began searching
for her early yesterday morning after finding her, a five
year old granddaughter, in her vehicle outside a restaurant. This
was in Unity Township, about thirty miles southeast of Pittsburgh.
The girl was okay despite being in the car for
twelve hours in below freezing temperatures. Rescue workers say that
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a shoe was found about twenty feet down in the hole,
the sinkhole. It's connected to an old mine. State Police
A rescuers were able to get down into the mine
yesterday evening, but they have not found this woman. They
think that she could be alive underground in an air pocket.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But again, do they hope she it's freezing man.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that and even an air pocket makes it sound
like there would be a limited amount of oxygen.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, so that's not good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Pete hag Seth says he is not withdrawing his name
from consideration for Defense Secretary.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well not yet at least, but he sounds like the
clock is ticking on him.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, he's on Capitol Hill meeting with senators, but Trump
is considering replacing him, which is interesting that that would
come out at the same time it comes out that
Pete Haigsath says he's not withdrawing.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so you know story about this guy. This he's
an Army soldier, former retired. Of course, haig Seth has
been accused of assaulting a woman in twenty seventeen in Monterey.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We've talked about that. He insists it was consensual.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Other reports about abuse in his marriages, extramarital activities which
are well documented. Drinking habits, now, that was also something
that came out yesterday. The lot of his co workers
were concerned about his drinking.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, they're worried that when you get a twenty four
hour a day job like Defense secretary, you've got to
be clear and sober and with it twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Four hours a day because you.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Don't get Tesco's stepbender, ESCO's town globally right. So one
of the things that came out was that The New
York Times published an email that his mother, Penelope, had
sent Pete during one of his divorce proceedings, where he,
I mean she sorry, just railed eviscerates.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Him for being a womanizer, in disrespect to women, belittling.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Them, running around on them, all of it.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And then when that came out and the New York
Times ran with it and printed it, Mom came out
and said No, that's not what I think. That's not
what I feel. That's wrong. And my thought was, well,
you can go after your son in private, to your
son if he's disappointing you, but you would never want
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that to be public. You're going to defend your son
to the grave in public.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I yes, You're not going to continue the narrative that
he's a bad person, especially considering she says. Within an
hour or two, she turned around and wrote an apology
email to him. This is the way she described it
on Fox in an interview this morning.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
They were going through Pete and his wife at the time,
we're going through a very difficult divorce. It was a
very emotional time, and I'm sure many of you across
the country understand how difficult divorce is on a family.
There's emotions, we say things, and I wrote that in haste.
I wrote that with deep emotions. I wrote that as
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a parent, and about two hours later I should I should.
My husband told me I should think through things a
little bit more. But Pete and I are both very
passionate people. I wrote that out of love, just and.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I bet just because you wrote the apology and you
felt bad for how scathing you were.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Doesn't make that scathingness untrue.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
It doesn't make the qualities that you described in him untrue, right,
I agree.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Doors later I retracted it with an apology email, but
nobody's seen that, so it was it was a difficult time.
I want to say something about the media now.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
This is this is where I this is the biggest
problem I have with her defense.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Here. I don't have a problem. I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
A parent dealing emotionally with the feelings that your kid
is not act, or the kid has disappointed you, or
the kid is.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
A bad person or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can't imagine what she was going through to even
write the email. Whether she's super passionate or she's not passionate,
or she thought it out or she didn't think it out.
Just an awful time for her, for him, for them,
I mean just awful. This is where it gets a
little weird for me.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And part of today is to discredit the media and
how they operate when they contact you. I let a
few phone calls go, but then they call you and
say they threaten you. That's the first thing they do.
They say, unless you make a statement and we will
publish it as is. And I think that's a despicable
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way to treat anyone. Threats are dangerous, and they their
heart on families.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yes, so you have a problem with that, Well, here's
because that's the way the media operates. They they offered her,
she admitted, they called me a couple of times and
I ignored it. Well, they gave you one opportunity to
make a comment about it. Listen, I do have it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Playing dirty though, Well for the New York Times to
publish familial drama, That's what I.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Was going to say is I do have a problem
with the origin of this story, which is somebody close
to the family forward of the New York Times this
very personal email between a mother and a son.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It was probably the ex wife. I don't know she
was blind seeded. Somebody else was blind seed seed see
seed on that email. And I got to believe if
she's talking to the wife when they're going through the divorce,
and the wife is telling the mother in.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Law and he did this, and he did that, and
she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, Sweedie.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know, I'm gonna write him right now, and then
she blank carbon copies the wife.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The wife has that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Email or one of the kids or somebody in that
and the wife's family. The wife could have sent it
to her sister and said, look at what Pete's mom did,
Look at what she sent him.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You don't know the chain of custody there, but the
fact that The New York Times gets their hands on
this a private communication between a mother and son and
publishes it. I don't care what this guy is up for.
It doesn't matter that he's a womanized. The drunk thing
is not good. The drunk thing is bad. You do
want to defend secretary who you can call on at
two in the morning and know that they are clear minded, right,
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But like, what business of ours is it that he
was a womanizer? How does that affect the job? I'm
not defending him. I'm just saying I believe that the
public has a right to know to a points right
and for I expect this from like the New York
Post or people. People won't even do this, but you
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know what I mean, like a gossip TMZ, TMZ Daily Mail,
but not the New York Times. Hold yourself to a
higher standard.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Which which is the other part about this, The like
I said, the origin of this is what disturbs me,
I think the most, because if you think about me too,
the most personal communications that you have with family members
right now, Listen, I'm not going to write an email
to my son.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, if I had or my daughter, if they
were having if they were screwing up and I felt
like I needed to document it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Not any email, No, but that was their method of communication.
You know, if my mom went. My mom's held my
brother and I both accountable at times for things. But
she would be mortified if it was broadcast in the
New York Times, because it's like, no, that's my private
family business. And do I think my son's all bad?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I was emotional in that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I was upset with the crumbling of his marriage and
the mistakes that he had made that led up to that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
She also points out, I didn't play it. I mean,
it's a nice lengthy interview, but she says, listen, that
was seven years ago, and there's the amount of time
and the amount of change that we've seen. I mean,
she said in herself, but also in Pete is right.
I don't know if it's enough to keep his nomination
on the table.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Can you remember what your mother called you when you
were dragging your heels to propose to your wife. Yes, yeah,
imagine that in the New York time and her reaction
to that.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
She would have doubled down.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
She but no, she would not have owned that word.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
She probably would have said she didn't say it, even
though I distinctly remember.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
My brain just cramped when she said it.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I did a segment with my brother on the phone
last night about how much I hate what's going on
with Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh, don't the golden at that rule. This is such crap,
Like I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I don't think it's about the golden bat, but it
gets me so fired up.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But it gets me really fired up because it's the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's the whole putting a runner on second base and
extra innings. Okay, so the golden at bat rule would
allow teams to choose one at bat every game to
use their best hitter, regardless.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of who is up in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now, Rob Manfred, the commissioner, says, everyone's so excited about this.
It's only in conversation stages at this point, but everyone's
so excited.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
B S true Baseball.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Fans and listen, I'm not I appreciate this about baseball.
I respect it. It's not really for my personality type.
I prefer sheer violence. But the thing that makes baseball
so special is tradition and longevity and playing by the book.
And that's why the rule book is this big, and
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the rule book for the NFL is this big.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I mean, it's like, there's so much to respect in
the game and the way that things have always been
done to try to get in there and reinvent the wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Is so anti baseball to me. It bothers me.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's going backwards. Listen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
One of the things that makes baseball what it is,
compared to even collegiate softball, which is very competitive, and
I'll watch that too, it's it's the It's the purest
form of the game, right. I mean, I even have
a problem with designated hitter. I mean, that's how much
I want it to just be nine people against nine people.
That that's the way it should be. That's the way
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it's always been.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I hate middle relievers.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Well I don't know about that, but I'm you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It's the purity of.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The game that always has made it special, and I
feel like they're just cheapening it. Yes, they're making it
cheap and gimmicky. I novelty.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
One of the one of the cutoffs should be listen.
If you wouldn't even implement that rule in Beer league softball, yeah,
do not do it in Major League baseball?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Could you imagine that even if you're at your beer
league game?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Though?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Idea? How about we like whoever we want to hit
whenever we want to have them hit.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, Kyle's up. Wait, Kyle's just up. You have but
Kyle's up.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, you're drunk, Bob, Go home, Bob.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's why you're hitting last. Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Financially, there's a study we'll talk about this throughout the show,
but study online since seventy seven percent more men have
financial secrets than women. It's a study done by wallet Hub.
Finance company also said that about one in four people
lie about money all the time. Really, about half little
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more than half say they do have some financial secrets.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What do you think the secrets are like debt? Well,
here we've seen people murdered over debts.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right purchase, large purchases, income savings, credit scores, debt, job status,
inappropriate purchases.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I'm looking at you only fans subscription now, I.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mean inappropriate could be as much as, like, you know,
another pair of shoes, right, inappropriate doesn't need to be
you know, the dirtiest of the dirty.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I would put that as a large purchase depending
on what shoes you get.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
It's just unnecessary shoes. I have unnecessary shoes. So like,
if I order a pair of shoes and that comes
to house, I don't leave it out. I put them
away before he gets home, right, because you're keeping secrets
from him that.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Could be construed as a secret.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
We had a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We did a premaral counseling session at the church where
we got married because we had to use the venue.
Pastor Dede was sat there and we took a test
and she'd asked us a series of questions and she said, basically,
you guys did great on almost everything, like the kids, friends, family, Like,
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we did well on all of it except for finances.
So we had very different ways that we looked at
finances really, and what were those just I came from
a family that was extremely frugal all the time, I
mean all the time, and that was never I never
had like recreational what'd you say, unnecessary shoes?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I didn't have unnecessary shoes growing up.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But my wife grew up in a different Not that
they were wild spenders or anything like that, but she
just grew up differently than I did when it came
to money.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
And that's how it all. That's how difference has happened.
It's how you grow up.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, but I never felt motivated, and I hope she
didn't to keep secrets. That that's the difference here is
but a secret.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
To one person may just be an undisclosed activity to another.
Is it lying by opposition, lying by omission?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yes, you know it could be Again, that's where I
said that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Where is the line The commutation of the word secret
makes it implies that there's something nefarious about it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But also, if my husband came home and I was like,
look at my new shoes, he'd be like, I don't care,
you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh, look another pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
You wouldn't say that. He would just say that's in
his head. He'd think those are unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
But whatever, Kess can't be a teenager anymore getting stabbed
by homeless people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, this is you know, This is part of the problem,
you know, and and unfortunately we need I don't want
to say we need more stories like this, but the
people who just let homeless addicts live free or die
should hear stories like this because it's reality.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
That's up next to Gary and Shannon. We'll continue ran
after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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I had a friend over last night and he said,
I was talking about my dog Peter, and said that
his grandmother had a dog very similar like it was
also a Scottish Terrier named Peter Shannon. Oh really yes,
And I said, that's a perfect name.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
For a dog.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Thank you for a dog specific kind of dog.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Okay, I like that. That's that old song.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ken Schampeau used to say, you know that song about
the dog Shannon Shannon has been swept away.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's about a dog dying.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I had never heard of that song before until
Ken Champeau sang it to me one day.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Do you know who sings that song?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The reason that he remembered it, Ken did is because
it was the song that Casey Caseum was talking out of.
It was an outtake from his weekly sh the Countdown,
and he freaking lost it on his like producers or whoever.
It was like, don't have me fan talking about a
dead dog ever again.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes, that's a legendary sound bite. So good, Henry Gross,
I guess yeah, I had never heard of this dog
written about the death of a pet dog that belonged
to Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
WHOA, that's a deep cut.
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Speaker 1 (02:38):
Huge story out of Midtown, New York. This morning, the
CEO of United Healthcare in town for an annual investor conference.
Somebody knew the door he was walking into in that hotel.
Somebody A masked man who waited ten minutes outside in
freezing temperatures, then opened fire with a silencer from about
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twenty feet away, and then took off on a bike.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Jessica Tish as the NYPD commissioner.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Many people passed the suspect, but he appeared to wait
for his intended target. The suspect fled first on foot,
then on an e bike, and was last seen in
Central Park on Center Drive early this morning. The victim
was removed to Roosevelt's Hospital, where he was pronounced Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The governor, the police commissioner, the mayor all say this
was a targeted attack, and they said it right away, Yeah,
no question about it.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, pre planned,
targeted attack. Millions of people will be enjoying the tree
lighting tonight, among other holiday events, and the NYPD will
be out there with them keeping them safe.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I might I say this might, you know, put a
damper on that a little bit this, but they I
think that was one of the main reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
They came out right away with that information that this
was not a random attack. So you can feel you
can feel safe going too the annual tree lighting. Unfortunate
that that has to be kind of a PostScript of
the story. Brian Thompson is his name. He's fifty years old.
Don't know much at this point. He was named chief
executive officer for United Healthcare in April twenty twenty one.
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United Healthcare, part of United Health Group, ranked fifth in
Fortune five hundred. The parent company abruptly ended at scheduled
conference this morning.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Obviously, he's been at United health for a long time.
Took over as the leader of the insurance unit a
few years ago, and before that he oversaw the Medicare
Medicaid businesses. He started working at the company twenty years ago.
Graduated from the University of Iowa ninety seven with a
business degree. The first thing that you think of, the
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first conclusion you might want to draw, is that this
is somebody who had United Health insurance and was denied
coverage for something. To me, that's the obvious that would
be the obvious go to, but such a specific target.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
As somebody who just got passed over for insurance wouldn't
know this guy what he looks like when the conference
was that's like a very I mean maybe, but like
that's a very manslaughtery kind of vibe, like I'm so
pissed off I got denied health insurance. I'm gonna go
kill the You wouldn't know where to start, really, if
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that was your emotional stability point. You wouldn't know where
this guy was, who he was when the conference was
going to be, what door he'd be using.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's this to me reeks of either money or.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sex, the two biggies, right, and maybe both maybe, but
that so it would be possible that whoever did this.
First of all, the edition of the silencer is important.
That's not just a common thing that happens, right. He
also that you're talking about the specifics of knowing which
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hotel the guy was in or maybe not apparently he
was going to he's staying in a hotel across the
street from where the conference was taking place. But the
fact that the shooter would know specifically what he looks
like and where he was going that early in the morning, and.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
She's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The conference wasn't even supposed to start until eight o'clock
in the morning, right, No, he was there an hour
and a half early.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The shooter had inside information from somebody close to Brian Thompson.
He had inside information of what he'd be getting there,
what door he'd be using, what he looks like, all
of the things. So this is going to be a
very big mystery. He is survived by his wife, Paulette.
She goes by Pauli Thompson, fifty one years old. Their
two children lived in Minnesota. Tim Walls, a Blast from
(06:55):
the Past, commented on this as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I saw Lar with him.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I saw a picture of Brian Thompson with Tim Walls recently.
I mean, I don't know how recent it was. They
were in front of a step in repeat that had
like University of Michigan's logo on it or Minnesota sorry,
Minnesota's logo on it with a you know, the big
M stylized M.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
This is it's just a weird thing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What's interesting is watching CNN and Fox and the networks
covered this this morning because this is around the corner, right,
I mean, for all of them, they're all in that
in that Manhattan area they're talking about, Yeah, we saw
the cop cars flying by our windows outside and knew
that something huge had happened.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, that's right there.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And the reference to Jessica Tish, that NYPD commissioner talking
about the tree lighting tonight. They're doing the tree lighting
at Rockefeller Center, which is four blocks with three blocks
away from where this guy was gunned down. I mean,
all of that is just it's a weird It is
a weird, weird case. We're going to do something a
little bit later. Also, I can't remember if we've done
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this before, but it always fascinates me findinancial secrets between spouses.
And I don't just mean like different bank accounts. I
mean you're hiding stuff from from your spouse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I saw this and it's always struck me. I mean,
my husband's a secretive person. I mean just by his
nature and.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
By what he does for work.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But he's not an open book, tell all out of
the gate like I am, Like I have no seat,
like I tell I share my thoughts everything right away.
I'm an impulsive person. I apologize profoundly and profusely, but
I'm totally open with my financial stuff we keep thinks separate.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
For the most part.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We've got a joint account for like you know, joint
expensive things like that. But I'm totally open about all
of that and where everything is. And but I would
and I have no idea, Like I know that I
know that he's got all that information somewhere, but I.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Have no clue.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, and I don't care. I don't care to know.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It's different because to me that the.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Connotation of the word secret means that there's something the
fairy is going on. True, And I don't think talk
about it. Your husband doesn't talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It, right, And I wouldn't be the one to talk
to you. I mean, I talked to my financial planning guy,
and it's having a conversation in Chinese. For me, I've
never taken to econ, I never took to any of that.
I don't I'm horrible with all of it. So it's
kind of would be a lost conversation anyway. Well, we
will talk about it later in this hour. That men
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are much more likely to have financial secrets than women.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'm curious as to why that is.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, well we'll talk about it. If you have If
you listen. It's totally anonymous. We're not going to tell
anybody who you are unless your spouse is listening to you.
Leave the talk back. They're not going to know either,
but leave us a talkback message. How do you handle finances?
And is there anything that you have kept secret from
a spouse for whatever reason. A couple news stories that
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we're following. We'll talk about it in a few minutes.
But Pete Hagseth is on Capitol Hill. This is the
guy who would be the nominee for a Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
He's talking to senators today.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Very reminiscent of when we saw Gates go to Washington
and talk to senators with with JD.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Vance by his side, and it did not go well.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's more stuff that came out overnight about this guy
being a booze hound and a womanizer.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And his mom went on Fox this morning to try
to defend that email.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh boy, do you do you have the audio of that?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Okay, because I haven't heard that night, I would be
curious to.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Wall Street Journal is also reporting that Trump is considering
loaded the idea of Ronda Santis see the second.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
One and showing growth.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, or is it just.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Is it just a little carrot that he wants to
throw out there for Ronda Santis.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So he gets all excited and then say and then
pull the rug out.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Mitt Romney.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Okay,
I was trying to get more funny. Oh okay, I
was like met Romney, Well he's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well no, wasn't it Amy. Weren't you onee who alerted
me to that one?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah? Remember right after Trump got elected, he was like,
went and had lunch with Romney and it was this
big photo op and they were talking about what position
he may have, and then he goes.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, he doesn't get one. Yeah wait this no.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Years ago? Eight years ago?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, that makes more sense. Yeah, Cuba doesn't have any
power again. O fun, time to go to Cuba.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So here's the latest in South Korea. Top aids to
the president Yunsuk yu'll I have offered to resign this morning.
This guy faces widespread anger over his decision to put
in to affect martial law. He reversed that within hours,
but in the meantime political chaos. They say that he
(11:56):
may be on his way out, so the chief of
staff has tendered it's his regular resignation. According to the
national broadcaster there, there are thousands of protesters outside the
National Assembly.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's a mess.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
There are six opposition parties that have submitted a motion
to force him from office, likely to be formally introduced
in the legislature there in South Korea Thursday morning, which
is actually just a few hours from now, so they
could see a vote as early as Friday. They can
impeach the president.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The National Assembly can if more than two thirds of
lawmakers vote for it. His party controls one hundred and
eight seats in the three hundred member legislature, so technically
this could definitely happen. This guy has been in a
political standoff with the opposing party which controls the parliament,
the National Assembly there.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I mean, we are not immune, we the United States,
we are not immune from something crazy like this happening.
And it feels like we've tiptoed to this kind of
dramatic government breakdown before and backed away from it. But
imagine this, just before dawn yesterday, while we were doing
the show we're doing Pastathon, all of this was going on,
(13:16):
So just before dawn less than six hours after he
imposed emergency martial law, he rescinded his emergency martial law.
He said originally he was put in to stop the
anti state activities in the National Assembly. He then deployed
a few hundred troops around the legislature, but the legislators
(13:37):
literally climbed fences to get back into the chamber so
that they could then vote and overturn his decision.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is what some say Trump will do. He will
use the military to go against people who don't agree
with him politically. That's essentially what happened in South Korea.
The president was pissed off with the opposing party running
the legislature, so he put in to affect martial law
to just get rid of any sort of political demonstration
(14:04):
or what have you, to silence the opposing party. You know,
this is not unlike what we saw on January sixth, Right,
this is what we saw yesterday in South Korea, with
people pissed off storming the capitol, chanting, protesting outside, setting
fires a whole bit.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would argue that the difference would be in that instance,
the military would have kept them, you know, would have
the concern I think for a lot of people is
that the military would have been used. Trump would have
used the military to shut down the congressional proceedings, when
in fact they would have been used to protect the
congressional proceedings.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Right, But this is and I don't think that this
is the same thing. I'm just saying that this is
what people think Trump will do.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Right, Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The investigation continues in New York after United Healthcare CEO
shot and killed outside a Midtown hotel this morning. Fifty
year old Brian Thompson, heads up United Healthcare is and
insurance division in the city for a conference at the
Hilton Midtown, shot in the chest just before seven o'clock
local time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
They say this was a targeted attack. Everyone says it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The police commissioner, the mayor, the governor of New York says.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
This was a masked man.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He waited outside in freezing temperatures for ten minutes, knew
which door Brian Thompson was going to walk in. He
used a silencer and shot him from twenty feet away
and took off on an e bike into Central Park.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Has not been found.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
The conspiracy theories abound right now because there's so little
information about what's going on. It might be very very simple,
could be a very simple explanation, but we'll see it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
If the NYPD has information that comes up, we will
definitely will definitely bring it to you.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Supreme Court has been.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hearing arguments in its second major transgender rights case. This
is stemming from a challenge to a Tennessee law that
bands gender affirming care for minors. This decision is actually
not expected for several months. We'll see it sometime early summer.
Probably could affect similar laws that were enacted by twenty
plus other states in a range of other efforts to
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regulate the lives of the way this is written by
the APIs a little misleading. It says to regulate the
lives of transgender people. It's very specifically talking about medical
interventions for children and whether or not they require a
(16:32):
more specific protection than would an adult trying to get
the same care.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you hear about the woman in Pennsylvania who may
have fallen into a sinkhole looking for a cat.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, they can't find her.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sixty four year old Elizabeth Pollard. Emergency responders began searching
for her early yesterday morning after finding her, a five
year old granddaughter, in her vehicle outside a restaurant. This
was in Unity Township, about thirty miles southeast of Pittsburgh.
The girl was okay despite being in the car for
twelve hours in below freezing temperatures. Rescue workers say that
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a shoe was found about twenty feet down in the hole,
the sinkhole. It's connected to an old mine. State Police
A rescuers were able to get down into the mine
yesterday evening, but they have not found this woman. They
think that she could be alive underground in an air pocket.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But again, do they hope she it's freezing man.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, that and even an air pocket makes it sound
like there would be a limited amount of oxygen.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, so that's not good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Pete hag Seth says he is not withdrawing his name
from consideration for Defense Secretary.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well not yet at least, but he sounds like the
clock is ticking on him.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, he's on Capitol Hill meeting with senators, but Trump
is considering replacing him, which is interesting that that would
come out at the same time it comes out that
Pete Haigsath says he's not withdrawing.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, so you know story about this guy. This he's
an Army soldier, former retired. Of course, haig Seth has
been accused of assaulting a woman in twenty seventeen in Monterey.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We've talked about that. He insists it was consensual.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Other reports about abuse in his marriages, extramarital activities which
are well documented. Drinking habits, now, that was also something
that came out yesterday. The lot of his co workers
were concerned about his drinking.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, they're worried that when you get a twenty four
hour a day job like Defense secretary, you've got to
be clear and sober and with it twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Four hours a day because you.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Don't get Tesco's stepbender, ESCO's town globally right. So one
of the things that came out was that The New
York Times published an email that his mother, Penelope, had
sent Pete during one of his divorce proceedings, where he,
I mean she sorry, just railed eviscerates.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Him for being a womanizer, in disrespect to women, belittling.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Them, running around on them, all of it.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And then when that came out and the New York
Times ran with it and printed it, Mom came out
and said No, that's not what I think. That's not
what I feel. That's wrong. And my thought was, well,
you can go after your son in private, to your
son if he's disappointing you, but you would never want
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that to be public. You're going to defend your son
to the grave in public.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I yes, You're not going to continue the narrative that
he's a bad person, especially considering she says. Within an
hour or two, she turned around and wrote an apology
email to him. This is the way she described it
on Fox in an interview this morning.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
They were going through Pete and his wife at the time,
we're going through a very difficult divorce. It was a
very emotional time, and I'm sure many of you across
the country understand how difficult divorce is on a family.
There's emotions, we say things, and I wrote that in haste.
I wrote that with deep emotions. I wrote that as
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a parent, and about two hours later I should I should.
My husband told me I should think through things a
little bit more. But Pete and I are both very
passionate people. I wrote that out of love, just and.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I bet just because you wrote the apology and you
felt bad for how scathing you were.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Doesn't make that scathingness untrue.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
It doesn't make the qualities that you described in him untrue, right,
I agree.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Doors later I retracted it with an apology email, but
nobody's seen that, so it was it was a difficult time.
I want to say something about the media now.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
This is this is where I this is the biggest
problem I have with her defense.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Here. I don't have a problem. I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
A parent dealing emotionally with the feelings that your kid
is not act, or the kid has disappointed you, or
the kid is.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
A bad person or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can't imagine what she was going through to even
write the email. Whether she's super passionate or she's not passionate,
or she thought it out or she didn't think it out.
Just an awful time for her, for him, for them,
I mean just awful. This is where it gets a
little weird for me.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And part of today is to discredit the media and
how they operate when they contact you. I let a
few phone calls go, but then they call you and
say they threaten you. That's the first thing they do.
They say, unless you make a statement and we will
publish it as is. And I think that's a despicable
(21:39):
way to treat anyone. Threats are dangerous, and they their
heart on families.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yes, so you have a problem with that, Well, here's
because that's the way the media operates. They they offered her,
she admitted, they called me a couple of times and
I ignored it. Well, they gave you one opportunity to
make a comment about it. Listen, I do have it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Playing dirty though, Well for the New York Times to
publish familial drama, That's what I.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Was going to say is I do have a problem
with the origin of this story, which is somebody close
to the family forward of the New York Times this
very personal email between a mother and a son.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It was probably the ex wife. I don't know she
was blind seeded. Somebody else was blind seed seed see
seed on that email. And I got to believe if
she's talking to the wife when they're going through the divorce,
and the wife is telling the mother in.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Law and he did this, and he did that, and
she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, Sweedie.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know, I'm gonna write him right now, and then
she blank carbon copies the wife.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The wife has that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Email or one of the kids or somebody in that
and the wife's family. The wife could have sent it
to her sister and said, look at what Pete's mom did,
Look at what she sent him.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You don't know the chain of custody there, but the
fact that The New York Times gets their hands on
this a private communication between a mother and son and
publishes it. I don't care what this guy is up for.
It doesn't matter that he's a womanized. The drunk thing
is not good. The drunk thing is bad. You do
want to defend secretary who you can call on at
two in the morning and know that they are clear minded, right,
(23:15):
But like, what business of ours is it that he
was a womanizer? How does that affect the job? I'm
not defending him. I'm just saying I believe that the
public has a right to know to a points right
and for I expect this from like the New York
Post or people. People won't even do this, but you
(23:36):
know what I mean, like a gossip TMZ, TMZ Daily Mail,
but not the New York Times. Hold yourself to a
higher standard.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Which which is the other part about this, The like
I said, the origin of this is what disturbs me,
I think the most, because if you think about me too,
the most personal communications that you have with family members
right now, Listen, I'm not going to write an email
to my son.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, if I had or my daughter, if they
were having if they were screwing up and I felt
like I needed to document it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Not any email, No, but that was their method of communication.
You know, if my mom went. My mom's held my
brother and I both accountable at times for things. But
she would be mortified if it was broadcast in the
New York Times, because it's like, no, that's my private
family business. And do I think my son's all bad?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I was emotional in that moment.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I was upset with the crumbling of his marriage and
the mistakes that he had made that led up to that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
She also points out, I didn't play it. I mean,
it's a nice lengthy interview, but she says, listen, that
was seven years ago, and there's the amount of time
and the amount of change that we've seen. I mean,
she said in herself, but also in Pete is right.
I don't know if it's enough to keep his nomination
on the table.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Can you remember what your mother called you when you
were dragging your heels to propose to your wife. Yes, yeah,
imagine that in the New York time and her reaction
to that.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
She would have doubled down.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
She but no, she would not have owned that word.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
She probably would have said she didn't say it, even
though I distinctly remember.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
My brain just cramped when she said it.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I did a segment with my brother on the phone
last night about how much I hate what's going on
with Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh, don't the golden at that rule. This is such crap,
Like I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I don't think it's about the golden bat, but it
gets me so fired up.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But it gets me really fired up because it's the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's the whole putting a runner on second base and
extra innings. Okay, so the golden at bat rule would
allow teams to choose one at bat every game to
use their best hitter, regardless.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of who is up in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now, Rob Manfred, the commissioner, says, everyone's so excited about this.
It's only in conversation stages at this point, but everyone's
so excited.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
B S true Baseball.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Fans and listen, I'm not I appreciate this about baseball.
I respect it. It's not really for my personality type.
I prefer sheer violence. But the thing that makes baseball
so special is tradition and longevity and playing by the book.
And that's why the rule book is this big, and
(26:23):
the rule book for the NFL is this big.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I mean, it's like, there's so much to respect in
the game and the way that things have always been
done to try to get in there and reinvent the wheel.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Is so anti baseball to me. It bothers me.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's going backwards. Listen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
One of the things that makes baseball what it is,
compared to even collegiate softball, which is very competitive, and
I'll watch that too, it's it's the It's the purest
form of the game, right. I mean, I even have
a problem with designated hitter. I mean, that's how much
I want it to just be nine people against nine people.
That that's the way it should be. That's the way
(27:02):
it's always been.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I hate middle relievers.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Well I don't know about that, but I'm you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It's the purity of.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The game that always has made it special, and I
feel like they're just cheapening it. Yes, they're making it
cheap and gimmicky. I novelty.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
One of the one of the cutoffs should be listen.
If you wouldn't even implement that rule in Beer league softball, yeah,
do not do it in Major League baseball?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Could you imagine that even if you're at your beer
league game?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Though?
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Idea? How about we like whoever we want to hit
whenever we want to have them hit.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, Kyle's up. Wait, Kyle's just up. You have but
Kyle's up.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, you're drunk, Bob, Go home, Bob.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That's why you're hitting last. Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Financially, there's a study we'll talk about this throughout the show,
but study online since seventy seven percent more men have
financial secrets than women. It's a study done by wallet Hub.
Finance company also said that about one in four people
lie about money all the time. Really, about half little
(28:08):
more than half say they do have some financial secrets.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What do you think the secrets are like debt? Well,
here we've seen people murdered over debts.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right purchase, large purchases, income savings, credit scores, debt, job status,
inappropriate purchases.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I'm looking at you only fans subscription now, I.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Mean inappropriate could be as much as, like, you know,
another pair of shoes, right, inappropriate doesn't need to be
you know, the dirtiest of the dirty.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But I would put that as a large purchase depending
on what shoes you get.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
It's just unnecessary shoes. I have unnecessary shoes. So like,
if I order a pair of shoes and that comes
to house, I don't leave it out. I put them
away before he gets home, right, because you're keeping secrets
from him that.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Could be construed as a secret.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
We had a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We did a premaral counseling session at the church where
we got married because we had to use the venue.
Pastor Dede was sat there and we took a test
and she'd asked us a series of questions and she said, basically,
you guys did great on almost everything, like the kids, friends, family, Like,
(29:23):
we did well on all of it except for finances.
So we had very different ways that we looked at
finances really, and what were those just I came from
a family that was extremely frugal all the time, I
mean all the time, and that was never I never
had like recreational what'd you say, unnecessary shoes?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I didn't have unnecessary shoes growing up.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But my wife grew up in a different Not that
they were wild spenders or anything like that, but she
just grew up differently than I did when it came
to money.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
And that's how it all. That's how difference has happened.
It's how you grow up.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, but I never felt motivated, and I hope she
didn't to keep secrets. That that's the difference here is
but a secret.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
To one person may just be an undisclosed activity to another.
Is it lying by opposition, lying by omission?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yes, you know it could be Again, that's where I
said that.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Where is the line The commutation of the word secret
makes it implies that there's something nefarious about it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But also, if my husband came home and I was like,
look at my new shoes, he'd be like, I don't care,
you know, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh, look another pair of shoes.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
You wouldn't say that. He would just say that's in
his head. He'd think those are unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
But whatever, Kess can't be a teenager anymore getting stabbed
by homeless people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, this is you know, This is part of the problem,
you know, and and unfortunately we need I don't want
to say we need more stories like this, but the
people who just let homeless addicts live free or die
should hear stories like this because it's reality.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
That's up next to Gary and Shannon. We'll continue ran
after this. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
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