December 10, 2024 • 28 mins
Swamp Watch. Gary and Shannon also talk about the two words someone never wants to see in a text and what is ‘revenge quitting.’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All Right, the Franklin fire burning out in the Malibu area.
CalFire just updated the acreage a short time ago. It's
now close to twenty six hundred acres. That does mean
that it is still growing. There's still plenty of places
with some active fire, active flames, and one of the
ways that you can tell if you're farther away is
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that the smoke is darker. Usually when it's actively burning something,
there's the gray smoke would be a good sign.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We're not seeing a whole lot of that.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is out in the Pepperdine area, and we talked
about overnight. The campus was put on a shelter in
place protocol because of the fire, although outside of it,
coming up to sort of the east side of campus,
everything was okay. The very minor damage if any, according
to Mike Frield, the Directory of Communications that we spoke
to a little bit earlier today, but we are still
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in this very daycarious time. Yeah, very dangerous red flag
warning that will continue till tomorrow. The most dangerous time
is supposed to come and go by this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They said by two pm.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right now through two pm is the high particular danger
zone time. But yeah, the winds will stay till tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Getting through that area is going to be tough because
PCH has been closed between Carbon Canyon and Coral Canyon Road.
The fire itself spread across PCH to Malibu near web Way,
and then Topanga was closed through traffic because of the
fire danger farther east from there, and that was not
because of this fire. That was actually done yesterday just
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as a precaution because they knew the conditions were going
to be dangerous. Pepperdine canceled class today and tomorrow they're
going to have to rejigger their finals week as a
result of that, and then all four Malibu schools are
closed today.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Donald Trump's gonna have a big party Tonight's where we
kick off Swamp Watch.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Swamp is horrible government man, make us like a reality
TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Was a bad Noos, always a.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Hey, Joe, He's a town hall.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Too, clearly built on a swamp and in so many
ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have a watch of Malwarkee. Nobody said drained the swamp.
I said, Oh that's so he keep.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know the thing, big fundraiser tonight at Marra Lago.
He's going to give out Champion of America Awards. I
want to guess who's giving these two?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Uh, everybody in his cabinet.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson. The event is a fundraiser
for the America's Future pack led by Mike Flynn.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
This is a sold out event.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's five thousand dollars per ticket and it's preceded by
a VIP poolside reception for those willing to pay an
additional thirty eight hundred Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, wow, wow Wow. Did you hear what he called
Justin Trudeau?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, he called the Prime Minister of Canada a grave robber.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The Governor of Canada.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Oh, the governor. I was thinking, I got Trudeau mixed
up with Macron. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He had made a joke before about Canada should become
our state. Yeah, should become our fifty first state.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Did he say it seriously or tongue in cheef?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He wrote it out in a wrote it out in
a truth social post just after midnight this morning, saying
it was a pleasure to meet with Governor Justin Trudeau
of the great state of Canada.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Do you think he's going to try and steal Canada? No,
he isn't want candet the military.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
In to get us Canada.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He said, it's a pleasure to have dinner with the
other night with Governor Justin Trudeau. I look forward to
seeing the Governor again soon so that we may continue
our in depth talks on tariffs and trade, the results
of which will be truly spectacular for all if youre member.
Of course, they met at mar A Lago last week,
and then I believe that Trudeau was in France also
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for the reopening of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Trump apparently spoke to Ronda Santas about handing over that
Senate seat to Laura Trump.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
She wants it bad, by all accounts.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
She went on Fox News on Sunday saying, I think
I would say that my track record speaks for itself.
Maybe having the last name Trump is just a little
bit extra. I'm always happy to have it interesting. She
left her gig with the RNC. They say that she
was instrumental helping Trump return to the White House. In
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that post, Yes, she would have kind of an uphill
climb because Ronda Santis is fiercely independent when it comes
to decisions like this.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Obviously, he gets to fill the vacancy as the governor
of Florida. He gets to fill the vacancy that's created
when Marco Rubio is elevated to Secretary of State. And
they said that some allies of Rond de Santa said
that he's considering a bunch of candidates.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It would.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It would go a long way to helping the relationship
between Rond de Santis and Donald Trump, because even if
even as I should say, Ronda Santis, you know, eventually
endorsed Trump, he was pretty adamantly opposed to him early
on in the primaries. It's not a given Florida Attorney
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General Ashley Moody is one of several candidates that are
supposed to be in there. But as one Trump insider
told The Wall Street Journal, the idea has gone from
fancivill wouldn't that be interesting sentiment to a distinct possibility
that he would choose the president elect's daughter in law
to be the Senator from the Great State of Florida
or a senator from the.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Ground Tulsey Gabbard and Ron Pete Pete haig Seth are
both on Capitol Hill trying to do handshaking and other
stuff with the senators trying to make way for their
confirmation to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There was an interesting meeting specifically yesterday between Pete Hegseth
and Jony Earnst, Senator out of Iowa. She said, as
a survivor of a sexual assault, she wanted to have
some very specific and pointed questions.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Interesting for Pete hag Seth.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So I don't know if she's a no on him,
if she's come out that way, but she was one
of the people who was very interested in asking him
some very specific questions.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
An extradition hearing for the suspect in that murder of
the United Healthcare CEO is now underway in Pennsylvania. This
could lead to him being extradited, will likely will lead
to him being extradited to New York City where Brian
Thompson was shot and killed. This was the guy apprehended
at McDonald's yesterday, recognized by an employee, and I got
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to believe it's only a few hours away that we
find out who that McDonald's employee is.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The McDonald's itself is being completely inundated with negative reviews online. Wow,
Like I saw ratskering in the kitchen here stay away.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I saw a meme that appeared to be from
Burger King's social media account.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Saw that is that?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Was that real? I?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
They say the I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The comment was we don't snitch or something like that,
but I didn't look it up because I didn't care
enough to look it up.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We were mentioning that Luigi Mangioni, this suspect in the
murder of the United Healthcare CEO from last week, is
in court right now.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
He's there for an extradition hearing.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
As they pulled him out of the cop car to
get him into the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Of course he had something.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Something is an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
He's lost it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So he didn't say anything yesterday when he appeared in court,
or chose not to say anything to detectives when they
first got to him. He only answered yes or no
questions for the judge in that arraignment last night. Again,
this is the extradition hearing, so he'll be likely be
taken back to New York state where he's already facing
murder charges.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
There coming up the two dreaded words in a text
conversation will tell you what those are. Also true crime
Tuesday in the twelve o'clock hour, the girl who went
out for corn flakes and never came back.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
What about I'm pregnant? Is that the two dreaded words.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then now those could be glorious words, could be
glorious words.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
What about He's gone?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Those could be glorious words as well. We are in
the midst of swamp Watch. And did you see the
frosty interaction between Kamala, Harris, and U and the Bidens
at the Kennedy Center Honors on Sunday. So, Kamala, Harris
and Doug are in what appears to be like a
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orchestra or a mezzanine level, and they're clapping, and the
bidens are walking in down the aisle right next to
where Kamala and Harris, Kamala Harrison, Doug are clapping, and
the bidens come out.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They don't even.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Glance their way, and they go right up and to
right up to the edge of the edge of the
balcony and they're waving and they're waving and they don't
even lookledge and then they take the seats right next
to those two on the other side of the aisle
and still don't say anything. Proof to everybody, these people
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hate each other.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It could be that I did see that and I
thought it first, Oh, this is just because I saw
the video where Jill walks down first. President Biden is
behind and they don't even turn to look to their
left at all, and I thought, oh, it's just the
momentary thing. Of course he's going to reach over and
shake the hand of his vice president. But then you
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see the longer version and there's not thing. It's uncomfortable,
nothing at all. In terms of the Democratic Party, obviously
they're dealing with the aftermath of November fifth, when things
did not turn out the way they were expecting. President
Trump was elected to another term in office and Kamala Harris,
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despite her one hundred days and billion plus dollars fundraising,
was unable to pull out the victory. So there, you know,
we did the post mortem in the weeks after that
discussing what the Democratic Party is going to have to
do going forward. And there's an interesting look at this
from NBC News that says that governors. Democratic governors could
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be the future of the party. It's not unusual for
governors to eventually run for president. I mean Ron De
Santis did it obviously. Other governors Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom
have been talked about on the Democratic side that they
will run for governor, but New Jersey's Governor Phil Murphy said,
we can worry later about who we run for president
or policy tweaks, but he says right now, Democrats need
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to build the foundation, the infrastructure. They need to elect
a DNC chairman who is committed to doing just that.
Gavin Newsom is one of those guys who probably is
the loudest voice in the room when it comes to
the Democratic Governor's annual gathering here in California.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But I don't know if he's the most.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Respected because of the way he's kind of handled things
here in the state of California. I don't think he
has a great reputation amongst the Democratic governors that exist there.
Josh Shapiro is one of the few that was potential
running mate for Kamala Harris, of course, but was looked
over in favor of Tim Walls out of Minnesota. But again,
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another one of those potential governors that could be elevated
to a higher tier when we get closer to twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was reading this article in Politico magazine about a
theory that could explain the reaction to this killer in
New York. And it's called social banditry. And it's about
how we saw it all over social media, that people
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were rejoicing over this guy, and that it's kind of
like a political mindset. And it goes back to a
Marxist scholar in the fifties that introduced this term into
the lexicon.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Social banditry.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Social bandits sometimes fictional, sometimes real figures who operated outside.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Of the law, widely revered for their efforts.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To dole out justice in an unjust world, like Robin Hood,
stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think we should get into it tomorrow because it's
too long to get into now. But just this thing
we were all caught up in in terms of group think,
and yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Mean, there's sure there's people who would fantasize about that
kind of thing, but to actually put it into put
it into play, it takes quite the step.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But goes back.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean it has a past. It's not anything new,
it's just a resurgence of it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Luigi Mangioni, the suspect in the United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson's murder, held without bail following his arraignment last night.
He's been in court today already for his extradition. Hearing
that's going on right now. A former roommate said that
Mangioni suffered a back injury so severe that he was
unable to have sex.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
R J.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Martin actually lived with this guy for about six months
at a co living space in Hawaii, and he told
The New York Times quote, he knew that dating and
being physically intimate with his back condition wasn't possible describe
if it was simply pain related, like it would hurt
to do that, or if it was some sort of
nerve damage or other issues that came from that. So
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we told you repeatedly about how crazy air travel has
been this year, that we've seen some records set back
in May, and we saw him again in July and
then around Thanksgiving. Air passenger numbers next year forecast to
top five billion for the first time. Passenger numbers expected
to reach five point two billion next year, a six
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point seven percent rise compared to what we saw a
record breaking year this year.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Already, thousands of people have been evacuated because of the
fire burning through Malibu that just exploded overnight thanks to
those brutal Santa Annas that are just whipping through the
whole area adding fuel to the fire. They say more
than twenty two twenty five hundred acres have been burned
through zero containment. An additional six thousand people under evacuation
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warnings on top of the eighteen thousand that were ordered
to evacuate. All we're hearing is that a minimal number
of homes had been destroyed. I don't know what that means,
but we're keeping an eye on this. They're fighting this
thing from the ground and from the air. Again, we
are in the particularly dangerous Santa Ana wind event until
two pm right now.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You ever received a text message that you didn't quite
understand or maybe terrified you because you didn't quite understand
what the person was trying to say.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
A cryptic text message, cryptic text.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Message that might be taken.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
The wrong way, potentially interpreted the wrong way. My mom
is guilty of doing these a lot. You know, call
me right away to where you think she's trapped under
a car right and it's like, what do you want
for a breakfast when you're here on Saturday kind of
a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, maybe she's in store at that moment and where
she's exactly what she's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Of course she is.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
She has no patience, negative patience for any sort of
wait time. For instance, she texted me recently something to
the effect of, Hey, I need a favor from you.
In January. I have a doctor's appointment to which I
see when we're doing the show, and I just don't
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respond right away, right by the time the next break
comes by, so like eight nine minutes down. Never mind
about January, I have a ride, which then makes me
feel inconsiderate for not riding back immediately. But I'm not
always I don't have my phone on ring, I'm not
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always looking at it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
My sister texted me on Thanksgiving she was going on
a trip the next day.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
She left on Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
She's back home now, but so I knew that this
was coming up, and I was going to call her
and say Happy Thanksgiving and all that sort of stuff.
But she texted me at about twelve forty five on Thanksgiving.
It says, are you busy?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, that's one of those right down the middle of
the road. Could be really bad, could be really good.
We've had a series of rough years in our family.
We've lost a lot of people, and we don't need
any more bad news. So I'm thinking, why would you
Why would you tell me something bad on Thanksgiving? Which
I started getting worried about. And I immediately responded, I'm
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not busy. Wait, let me just let me just pull
the car over here. Yes, if something bad happened to her,
you would want her to wait till after Thanksgiving as
to not ruin your Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, I wouldn't say that. You're right.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I that didn't come out right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
My sentiment was wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I should have said something like, ugh, do we need
more bad news on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There you go now, as opposed to, hey, could you
just put off for like twenty four hours? I call
me right after midnight, after cram verry basting right now. No,
And it was an announcement that my nephew her son
is going to have a baby, that they're pregnant. So
we're looking for a late spring, early summer. Baby, that
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was fantastic news for Thanksgiving, right, But in the event
that someone texts you the two words call me, that's
almost as bad as receiving a call from someone who
almost never calls you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yes, the way it's written up in the Wall Street Journal,
did someone die or did the family member just need
help logging into Netflix? It creates a sense of urgency
where it's not needed. And I think now in today's
land of anxiety and a focus on anxiety, it creates
anxiety on top of anxiety where you don't need any
extra anxiety because we're all stocked up here.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, and I love the clarification they make the differences
between three different call mees. If you have call me
with a funny little jiff or an emoji or something
like that, it probably doesn't mean anything. Is definitely important.
If you use a.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Period call me period, that may be a sign of trump.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And then call me with no punctuation or all caps, well,
that might be an emergency like that. The three different
versions I thought were kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Uh yeah. Well, and then there's the this person talks
about their mother as well and gives examples of the
mother texting, call me please when you can, but asap,
and then please call me. And then I just tried
to call you, called me back please. When somebody texted
me I just tried to call you. It drives me
insane because I know I'm looking at what is supposed
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to be used as a phone, primarily I know that you've.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Called it already says yes, you missed one call.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I just tried to call you.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's like I know you did and I couldn't answer,
and texting doesn't help me get back to you faster or.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I intentionally didn't answer.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But then how about this d Josh who screened? Who
screen published a screenshot of his interaction with a family member,
and the text coming into Josh is call me, and
he writes back, don't do that unless it is an emergency.
And then another text put your message in text form,
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and then whoever was texting Josh wrote sorry, just wanted
to talk about Christmas, and then he writes back, I'm
tweeting this as a PSA for other old people. Screw you, Josh,
that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What if it was his mom?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It probably you just deal with it. You don't like
call him out on it, and I don't know. It's
kind of rude, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I think it's rude, Josh. I hope his mom continues
to say, call me. I hope she just calls him. Well,
my mother would say, I don't want to bother you.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Then leave a message.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Assume you check your messages. I check it with my mother.
You don't get a little notification of a voicemail. I do,
but I rarely listen to them. Why because it's all junk,
it's all garbage. It's all although it did miss a
tax appointment last week that I'm just learning about right now.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Anyway, Okay, coming, I'm next.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A trend for twenty twenty five is being predicted, and
it's called the trend.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Of revenge quitting.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It some workers feel burned out and undervalued, in part
to increased workloads and a back and forth about hybrid working.
So a lot of people are thinking in twenty twenty five,
new year, new job, because the job market is starting
to loosen up. Yeah, sometimes you need a new environment
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for your job. You know. It's like it's like a
coach in the NFL, Like sometimes you stay with a
team four or five years and yeaht where you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You need a new environment.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Your stick has has been exhausted.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, I need players too, I mean all the difference
between Jared Goff and Matt Stafford. They trade teams and
have wildly different outcomes, right, I mean, And so that
that's a kind of a thing. Edel holiday Quinn is
a self described business psychologist and said that revenge quitting
is where employees leave not just to move on, but
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to make a point.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like what if we left and went to a new
radio station where I don't know, Okay, Wichita.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Ah a strong market.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I flew over Wichita and it looked like a nice place.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A lot of radio towers, a lot of flat Employment.
Analysts have said that during the Great Detachment is plaguing workplaces.
One of the biggest challenges that leaders face, obvious is
when the pandemic hit and everybody was terrified to go
to work or was told not to come to work.
That got a lot of people used to wearing soft
pants around the house and doing work every once in
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a while from home and never at the office, and
it became easier for people to switch jobs, especially if
they had that sort of hybrid work environment where they
could stay home a lot. But the fact that it's
could be easier to switch jobs next to your employers
could soon realize that their best talent is going to
jump ship.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, So let's see here in Wichita. We've got one
oh two point one the bull. Okay, that would work
for us. Country good country music. It is country. Yeah,
they've got alt one oh seven point three, kind of
get that one. They've got ninety seven to nine B
ninety eight, B ninety eight B ninety eight, a sense
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of ninety seven point nine B ninety eight. Welcome to
the holiday season. Does that sounds that's close?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And now another Mariah Careys it's soft rock, right exactly?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I told jo Okay, how about channel ninety six point three,
that's top forty and pop Okay, right, channel ninety six three,
join us on TikTok Gary and Shannon and now Kendrick Lamar.
That you got to change that voice that sounded like
summer stock.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And now Kendrick Lamar, they said.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
According to a workplace experts, employees across all industries are
increasingly engaging what they call productivity theater performative busyness to
get through their day.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I've seen that, We've seen that, We've seen that in action.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That the whole, that the workforce as a whole is disengaged.
I think this is also a time of year thing
as well. A lot of times, I mean, this is
the time of year people are thinking about did I
get my Amazon packages? When am I going to finish
my shopping? Do I need to eat that? How am
I going to start the new year? All of that
sort of thing, and they're not in as necessarily concentrating
on their work. For the ninth year in a row,
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HR professionals have said that the forty two percent said
that sorry, forty two percent of all respondents regular workers,
and fifty two percent of CEOs say they work in
a toxic environment.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
What is under the toxic umbrella? What constitutes as toxic?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, I mean we've seen it around here, Like what,
I don't know. I'm just trying to make it sense.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think I was labeled as toxic because of the
post its that I left on Oscar's computer because you
said Oscar sucks. Yeah, you suck, Oscar. Go home, Oscar garbage.
Go back to your garbage. Can Oscar trash to take
the trash out oscar and that someone thought that that
was real.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Someone took that picture of that and sent it to.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
HR, but they didn't know that you did it. I
mean that came out later.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But that's like that's what friends do, little light hazing
around the office. But I think in twenty twenty four
somebody could see that and think of it as toxic,
when I see it and think of it as fun.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
The same business psychologist who talked about revenge quitting said
that rage applying from last year is sort of the
precursor to revenge quitting, where good, see your winter cold
has come. Rage applying was just spitting out resumes to
places because you want almost wanted your boss to find
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out that you were looking. Oh now this is the
second half of that, where you actually do get a
job and you revenge quit just to prove your point.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Wow, it sounds like it's not about the job, you know,
sounds like maybe you need some other happiness in life
if this is what you're thinking about.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, here's kind of where they point the problem is
directly at CEOs. They say fifty five percent of CEOs
believe they lead with ympathy at work. Twenty eight percent
of employees agree with them. So they said, listening can
go a long way if you're a CEO or an
upper management or in the C suite.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, but whenever they they tell you they're listening, sometimes
you can tell they're not listening. They're just saying that
they're listening.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Because they're already thinking about firing you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah. Rarely do I think that the powers that be
are actually listening. Say it again, But I also talk
too much, so I understand that people tune out.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
See now you understand my struggle.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I understand that I'm just going to stop talking to you.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, that's it. Oh you were serious? Okay. Gary and
Shannon will be back right after this. You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
All Right, the Franklin fire burning out in the Malibu area.
CalFire just updated the acreage a short time ago. It's
now close to twenty six hundred acres. That does mean
that it is still growing. There's still plenty of places
with some active fire, active flames, and one of the
ways that you can tell if you're farther away is
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that the smoke is darker. Usually when it's actively burning something,
there's the gray smoke would be a good sign.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We're not seeing a whole lot of that.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is out in the Pepperdine area, and we talked
about overnight. The campus was put on a shelter in
place protocol because of the fire, although outside of it,
coming up to sort of the east side of campus,
everything was okay. The very minor damage if any, according
to Mike Frield, the Directory of Communications that we spoke
to a little bit earlier today, but we are still
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in this very daycarious time. Yeah, very dangerous red flag
warning that will continue till tomorrow. The most dangerous time
is supposed to come and go by this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They said by two pm.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right now through two pm is the high particular danger
zone time. But yeah, the winds will stay till tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Getting through that area is going to be tough because
PCH has been closed between Carbon Canyon and Coral Canyon Road.
The fire itself spread across PCH to Malibu near web Way,
and then Topanga was closed through traffic because of the
fire danger farther east from there, and that was not
because of this fire. That was actually done yesterday just
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as a precaution because they knew the conditions were going
to be dangerous. Pepperdine canceled class today and tomorrow they're
going to have to rejigger their finals week as a
result of that, and then all four Malibu schools are
closed today.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Donald Trump's gonna have a big party Tonight's where we
kick off Swamp Watch.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Swamp is horrible government man, make us like a reality
TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Was a bad Noos, always a.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Hey, Joe, He's a town hall.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Too, clearly built on a swamp and in so many
ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I have a watch of Malwarkee. Nobody said drained the swamp.
I said, Oh that's so he keep.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know the thing, big fundraiser tonight at Marra Lago.
He's going to give out Champion of America Awards. I
want to guess who's giving these two?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Uh, everybody in his cabinet.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson. The event is a fundraiser
for the America's Future pack led by Mike Flynn.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
This is a sold out event.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's five thousand dollars per ticket and it's preceded by
a VIP poolside reception for those willing to pay an
additional thirty eight hundred Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, wow, wow Wow. Did you hear what he called
Justin Trudeau?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, he called the Prime Minister of Canada a grave robber.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The Governor of Canada.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Oh, the governor. I was thinking, I got Trudeau mixed
up with Macron. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
He had made a joke before about Canada should become
our state. Yeah, should become our fifty first state.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Did he say it seriously or tongue in cheef?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He wrote it out in a wrote it out in
a truth social post just after midnight this morning, saying
it was a pleasure to meet with Governor Justin Trudeau
of the great state of Canada.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Do you think he's going to try and steal Canada? No,
he isn't want candet the military.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
In to get us Canada.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He said, it's a pleasure to have dinner with the
other night with Governor Justin Trudeau. I look forward to
seeing the Governor again soon so that we may continue
our in depth talks on tariffs and trade, the results
of which will be truly spectacular for all if youre member.
Of course, they met at mar A Lago last week,
and then I believe that Trudeau was in France also
(04:04):
for the reopening of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Trump apparently spoke to Ronda Santas about handing over that
Senate seat to Laura Trump.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
She wants it bad, by all accounts.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
She went on Fox News on Sunday saying, I think
I would say that my track record speaks for itself.
Maybe having the last name Trump is just a little
bit extra. I'm always happy to have it interesting. She
left her gig with the RNC. They say that she
was instrumental helping Trump return to the White House. In
(04:37):
that post, Yes, she would have kind of an uphill
climb because Ronda Santis is fiercely independent when it comes
to decisions like this.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Obviously, he gets to fill the vacancy as the governor
of Florida. He gets to fill the vacancy that's created
when Marco Rubio is elevated to Secretary of State. And
they said that some allies of Rond de Santa said
that he's considering a bunch of candidates.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It would.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It would go a long way to helping the relationship
between Rond de Santis and Donald Trump, because even if
even as I should say, Ronda Santis, you know, eventually
endorsed Trump, he was pretty adamantly opposed to him early
on in the primaries. It's not a given Florida Attorney
(05:28):
General Ashley Moody is one of several candidates that are
supposed to be in there. But as one Trump insider
told The Wall Street Journal, the idea has gone from
fancivill wouldn't that be interesting sentiment to a distinct possibility
that he would choose the president elect's daughter in law
to be the Senator from the Great State of Florida
or a senator from the.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Ground Tulsey Gabbard and Ron Pete Pete haig Seth are
both on Capitol Hill trying to do handshaking and other
stuff with the senators trying to make way for their
confirmation to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There was an interesting meeting specifically yesterday between Pete Hegseth
and Jony Earnst, Senator out of Iowa. She said, as
a survivor of a sexual assault, she wanted to have
some very specific and pointed questions.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Interesting for Pete hag Seth.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So I don't know if she's a no on him,
if she's come out that way, but she was one
of the people who was very interested in asking him
some very specific questions.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
An extradition hearing for the suspect in that murder of
the United Healthcare CEO is now underway in Pennsylvania. This
could lead to him being extradited, will likely will lead
to him being extradited to New York City where Brian
Thompson was shot and killed. This was the guy apprehended
at McDonald's yesterday, recognized by an employee, and I got
(06:51):
to believe it's only a few hours away that we
find out who that McDonald's employee is.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The McDonald's itself is being completely inundated with negative reviews online. Wow,
Like I saw ratskering in the kitchen here stay away.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So I saw a meme that appeared to be from
Burger King's social media account.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Saw that is that?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Was that real? I?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
They say the I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The comment was we don't snitch or something like that,
but I didn't look it up because I didn't care
enough to look it up.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
We were mentioning that Luigi Mangioni, this suspect in the
murder of the United Healthcare CEO from last week, is
in court right now.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
He's there for an extradition hearing.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
As they pulled him out of the cop car to
get him into the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Of course he had something.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Something is an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
He's lost it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So he didn't say anything yesterday when he appeared in court,
or chose not to say anything to detectives when they
first got to him. He only answered yes or no
questions for the judge in that arraignment last night. Again,
this is the extradition hearing, so he'll be likely be
taken back to New York state where he's already facing
murder charges.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
There coming up the two dreaded words in a text
conversation will tell you what those are. Also true crime
Tuesday in the twelve o'clock hour, the girl who went
out for corn flakes and never came back.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
What about I'm pregnant? Is that the two dreaded words.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then now those could be glorious words, could be
glorious words.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
What about He's gone?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Those could be glorious words as well. We are in
the midst of swamp Watch. And did you see the
frosty interaction between Kamala, Harris, and U and the Bidens
at the Kennedy Center Honors on Sunday. So, Kamala, Harris
and Doug are in what appears to be like a
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orchestra or a mezzanine level, and they're clapping, and the
bidens are walking in down the aisle right next to
where Kamala and Harris, Kamala Harrison, Doug are clapping, and
the bidens come out.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They don't even.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Glance their way, and they go right up and to
right up to the edge of the edge of the
balcony and they're waving and they're waving and they don't
even lookledge and then they take the seats right next
to those two on the other side of the aisle
and still don't say anything. Proof to everybody, these people
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hate each other.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It could be that I did see that and I
thought it first, Oh, this is just because I saw
the video where Jill walks down first. President Biden is
behind and they don't even turn to look to their
left at all, and I thought, oh, it's just the
momentary thing. Of course he's going to reach over and
shake the hand of his vice president. But then you
(10:10):
see the longer version and there's not thing. It's uncomfortable,
nothing at all. In terms of the Democratic Party, obviously
they're dealing with the aftermath of November fifth, when things
did not turn out the way they were expecting. President
Trump was elected to another term in office and Kamala Harris,
(10:30):
despite her one hundred days and billion plus dollars fundraising,
was unable to pull out the victory. So there, you know,
we did the post mortem in the weeks after that
discussing what the Democratic Party is going to have to
do going forward. And there's an interesting look at this
from NBC News that says that governors. Democratic governors could
(10:55):
be the future of the party. It's not unusual for
governors to eventually run for president. I mean Ron De
Santis did it obviously. Other governors Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom
have been talked about on the Democratic side that they
will run for governor, but New Jersey's Governor Phil Murphy said,
we can worry later about who we run for president
or policy tweaks, but he says right now, Democrats need
(11:17):
to build the foundation, the infrastructure. They need to elect
a DNC chairman who is committed to doing just that.
Gavin Newsom is one of those guys who probably is
the loudest voice in the room when it comes to
the Democratic Governor's annual gathering here in California.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
But I don't know if he's the most.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Respected because of the way he's kind of handled things
here in the state of California. I don't think he
has a great reputation amongst the Democratic governors that exist there.
Josh Shapiro is one of the few that was potential
running mate for Kamala Harris, of course, but was looked
over in favor of Tim Walls out of Minnesota. But again,
(11:56):
another one of those potential governors that could be elevated
to a higher tier when we get closer to twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I was reading this article in Politico magazine about a
theory that could explain the reaction to this killer in
New York. And it's called social banditry. And it's about
how we saw it all over social media, that people
(12:29):
were rejoicing over this guy, and that it's kind of
like a political mindset. And it goes back to a
Marxist scholar in the fifties that introduced this term into
the lexicon.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Social banditry.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Social bandits sometimes fictional, sometimes real figures who operated outside.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Of the law, widely revered for their efforts.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To dole out justice in an unjust world, like Robin Hood,
stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think we should get into it tomorrow because it's
too long to get into now. But just this thing
we were all caught up in in terms of group think,
and yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Mean, there's sure there's people who would fantasize about that
kind of thing, but to actually put it into put
it into play, it takes quite the step.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But goes back.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean it has a past. It's not anything new,
it's just a resurgence of it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Luigi Mangioni, the suspect in the United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson's murder, held without bail following his arraignment last night.
He's been in court today already for his extradition. Hearing
that's going on right now. A former roommate said that
Mangioni suffered a back injury so severe that he was
unable to have sex.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
R J.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Martin actually lived with this guy for about six months
at a co living space in Hawaii, and he told
The New York Times quote, he knew that dating and
being physically intimate with his back condition wasn't possible describe
if it was simply pain related, like it would hurt
to do that, or if it was some sort of
nerve damage or other issues that came from that. So
(14:12):
we told you repeatedly about how crazy air travel has
been this year, that we've seen some records set back
in May, and we saw him again in July and
then around Thanksgiving. Air passenger numbers next year forecast to
top five billion for the first time. Passenger numbers expected
to reach five point two billion next year, a six
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point seven percent rise compared to what we saw a
record breaking year this year.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Already, thousands of people have been evacuated because of the
fire burning through Malibu that just exploded overnight thanks to
those brutal Santa Annas that are just whipping through the
whole area adding fuel to the fire. They say more
than twenty two twenty five hundred acres have been burned
through zero containment. An additional six thousand people under evacuation
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warnings on top of the eighteen thousand that were ordered
to evacuate. All we're hearing is that a minimal number
of homes had been destroyed. I don't know what that means,
but we're keeping an eye on this. They're fighting this
thing from the ground and from the air. Again, we
are in the particularly dangerous Santa Ana wind event until
two pm right now.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You ever received a text message that you didn't quite
understand or maybe terrified you because you didn't quite understand
what the person was trying to say.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
A cryptic text message, cryptic text.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Message that might be taken.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
The wrong way, potentially interpreted the wrong way. My mom
is guilty of doing these a lot. You know, call
me right away to where you think she's trapped under
a car right and it's like, what do you want
for a breakfast when you're here on Saturday kind of
a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, maybe she's in store at that moment and where
she's exactly what she's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Of course she is.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
She has no patience, negative patience for any sort of
wait time. For instance, she texted me recently something to
the effect of, Hey, I need a favor from you.
In January. I have a doctor's appointment to which I
see when we're doing the show, and I just don't
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respond right away, right by the time the next break
comes by, so like eight nine minutes down. Never mind
about January, I have a ride, which then makes me
feel inconsiderate for not riding back immediately. But I'm not
always I don't have my phone on ring, I'm not
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always looking at it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
My sister texted me on Thanksgiving she was going on
a trip the next day.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
She left on Friday.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
She's back home now, but so I knew that this
was coming up, and I was going to call her
and say Happy Thanksgiving and all that sort of stuff.
But she texted me at about twelve forty five on Thanksgiving.
It says, are you busy?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Now, that's one of those right down the middle of
the road. Could be really bad, could be really good.
We've had a series of rough years in our family.
We've lost a lot of people, and we don't need
any more bad news. So I'm thinking, why would you
Why would you tell me something bad on Thanksgiving? Which
I started getting worried about. And I immediately responded, I'm
(17:32):
not busy. Wait, let me just let me just pull
the car over here. Yes, if something bad happened to her,
you would want her to wait till after Thanksgiving as
to not ruin your Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, I wouldn't say that. You're right.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I that didn't come out right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
My sentiment was wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I should have said something like, ugh, do we need
more bad news on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
There you go now, as opposed to, hey, could you
just put off for like twenty four hours? I call
me right after midnight, after cram verry basting right now. No,
And it was an announcement that my nephew her son
is going to have a baby, that they're pregnant. So
we're looking for a late spring, early summer. Baby, that
(18:15):
was fantastic news for Thanksgiving, right, But in the event
that someone texts you the two words call me, that's
almost as bad as receiving a call from someone who
almost never calls you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yes, the way it's written up in the Wall Street Journal,
did someone die or did the family member just need
help logging into Netflix? It creates a sense of urgency
where it's not needed. And I think now in today's
land of anxiety and a focus on anxiety, it creates
anxiety on top of anxiety where you don't need any
extra anxiety because we're all stocked up here.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, and I love the clarification they make the differences
between three different call mees. If you have call me
with a funny little jiff or an emoji or something
like that, it probably doesn't mean anything. Is definitely important.
If you use a.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Period call me period, that may be a sign of trump.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And then call me with no punctuation or all caps, well,
that might be an emergency like that. The three different
versions I thought were kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Uh yeah. Well, and then there's the this person talks
about their mother as well and gives examples of the
mother texting, call me please when you can, but asap,
and then please call me. And then I just tried
to call you, called me back please. When somebody texted
me I just tried to call you. It drives me
insane because I know I'm looking at what is supposed
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to be used as a phone, primarily I know that you've.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Called it already says yes, you missed one call.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I just tried to call you.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's like I know you did and I couldn't answer,
and texting doesn't help me get back to you faster or.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I intentionally didn't answer.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But then how about this d Josh who screened? Who
screen published a screenshot of his interaction with a family member,
and the text coming into Josh is call me, and
he writes back, don't do that unless it is an emergency.
And then another text put your message in text form,
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and then whoever was texting Josh wrote sorry, just wanted
to talk about Christmas, and then he writes back, I'm
tweeting this as a PSA for other old people. Screw you, Josh,
that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What if it was his mom?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It probably you just deal with it. You don't like
call him out on it, and I don't know. It's
kind of rude, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I think it's rude, Josh. I hope his mom continues
to say, call me. I hope she just calls him. Well,
my mother would say, I don't want to bother you.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Then leave a message.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Assume you check your messages. I check it with my mother.
You don't get a little notification of a voicemail. I do,
but I rarely listen to them. Why because it's all junk,
it's all garbage. It's all although it did miss a
tax appointment last week that I'm just learning about right now.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Anyway, Okay, coming, I'm next.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A trend for twenty twenty five is being predicted, and
it's called the trend.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Of revenge quitting.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It some workers feel burned out and undervalued, in part
to increased workloads and a back and forth about hybrid working.
So a lot of people are thinking in twenty twenty five,
new year, new job, because the job market is starting
to loosen up. Yeah, sometimes you need a new environment
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for your job. You know. It's like it's like a
coach in the NFL, Like sometimes you stay with a
team four or five years and yeaht where you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You need a new environment.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Your stick has has been exhausted.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, I need players too, I mean all the difference
between Jared Goff and Matt Stafford. They trade teams and
have wildly different outcomes, right, I mean, And so that
that's a kind of a thing. Edel holiday Quinn is
a self described business psychologist and said that revenge quitting
is where employees leave not just to move on, but
(22:35):
to make a point.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like what if we left and went to a new
radio station where I don't know, Okay, Wichita.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Ah a strong market.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I flew over Wichita and it looked like a nice place.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A lot of radio towers, a lot of flat Employment.
Analysts have said that during the Great Detachment is plaguing workplaces.
One of the biggest challenges that leaders face, obvious is
when the pandemic hit and everybody was terrified to go
to work or was told not to come to work.
That got a lot of people used to wearing soft
pants around the house and doing work every once in
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a while from home and never at the office, and
it became easier for people to switch jobs, especially if
they had that sort of hybrid work environment where they
could stay home a lot. But the fact that it's
could be easier to switch jobs next to your employers
could soon realize that their best talent is going to
jump ship.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, So let's see here in Wichita. We've got one
oh two point one the bull. Okay, that would work
for us. Country good country music. It is country. Yeah,
they've got alt one oh seven point three, kind of
get that one. They've got ninety seven to nine B
ninety eight, B ninety eight B ninety eight, a sense
(23:53):
of ninety seven point nine B ninety eight. Welcome to
the holiday season. Does that sounds that's close?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And now another Mariah Careys it's soft rock, right exactly?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I told jo Okay, how about channel ninety six point three,
that's top forty and pop Okay, right, channel ninety six three,
join us on TikTok Gary and Shannon and now Kendrick Lamar.
That you got to change that voice that sounded like
summer stock.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And now Kendrick Lamar, they said.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
According to a workplace experts, employees across all industries are
increasingly engaging what they call productivity theater performative busyness to
get through their day.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
I've seen that, We've seen that, We've seen that in action.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That the whole, that the workforce as a whole is disengaged.
I think this is also a time of year thing
as well. A lot of times, I mean, this is
the time of year people are thinking about did I
get my Amazon packages? When am I going to finish
my shopping? Do I need to eat that? How am
I going to start the new year? All of that
sort of thing, and they're not in as necessarily concentrating
on their work. For the ninth year in a row,
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HR professionals have said that the forty two percent said
that sorry, forty two percent of all respondents regular workers,
and fifty two percent of CEOs say they work in
a toxic environment.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
What is under the toxic umbrella? What constitutes as toxic?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, I mean we've seen it around here, Like what,
I don't know. I'm just trying to make it sense.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think I was labeled as toxic because of the
post its that I left on Oscar's computer because you
said Oscar sucks. Yeah, you suck, Oscar. Go home, Oscar garbage.
Go back to your garbage. Can Oscar trash to take
the trash out oscar and that someone thought that that
was real.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Someone took that picture of that and sent it to.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
HR, but they didn't know that you did it. I
mean that came out later.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But that's like that's what friends do, little light hazing
around the office. But I think in twenty twenty four
somebody could see that and think of it as toxic,
when I see it and think of it as fun.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
The same business psychologist who talked about revenge quitting said
that rage applying from last year is sort of the
precursor to revenge quitting, where good, see your winter cold
has come. Rage applying was just spitting out resumes to
places because you want almost wanted your boss to find
(26:33):
out that you were looking. Oh now this is the
second half of that, where you actually do get a
job and you revenge quit just to prove your point.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Wow, it sounds like it's not about the job, you know,
sounds like maybe you need some other happiness in life
if this is what you're thinking about.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, here's kind of where they point the problem is
directly at CEOs. They say fifty five percent of CEOs
believe they lead with ympathy at work. Twenty eight percent
of employees agree with them. So they said, listening can
go a long way if you're a CEO or an
upper management or in the C suite.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, but whenever they they tell you they're listening, sometimes
you can tell they're not listening. They're just saying that
they're listening.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Because they're already thinking about firing you.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah. Rarely do I think that the powers that be
are actually listening. Say it again, But I also talk
too much, so I understand that people tune out.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
See now you understand my struggle.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I understand that I'm just going to stop talking to you.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, that's it. Oh you were serious? Okay. Gary and
Shannon will be back right after this. You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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