December 13, 2024 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon begin the show with the latest on the drones flying over New Jersey. Gary and Shannon also talk about Luigi Mangione not being a member of UnitedHealthcare, the story of a cursed emerald and couple of interesting dogs stories!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
IF I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Okay, we're not doing ailments, okay,
but my husband this morning says, did you get Gary
a Christmas present yet? And I said I did, And
he said, oh, okay, because I was gonna recommend you
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get him that face stuff that I use. And I go,
you know what I thought about it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I said, but that's like.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Weird, Like I'm not going to get him grooming products,
like that's odd.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I actually there's a funny thing. Yes, there is a
line about what you can buy.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, okay, yes, And so then he says it was
a whole thing. So then he says, well, why don't
you tell him that it was from me? And then
it's not weird? And I'm like, that's kind of okay,
that would weird, that would work. Yes, I was actually
going to buy a friend. I was going to buy
a friend some workout shorts that I like that I
that I've used in there. It's a great brand and
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super comfortable and all that sort of stuff. And as
I'm going through and I'm ordering a pair of shorts. Uh,
it says liner or no liner, and I thought that's
too much.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Like I just assumed, like even if it came with
the liner, which is like the built in boxer short
kind of thing, our boxer briefs. Basically, if it had
just come with it, I would have been okay, and
I would have bought the shorts and been like, I
really like these shorts and here's you know, I hope
the right size and if not, very easily don't know.
Just so it was that decision between liner and no liner.
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I was like, that's too far, because then I have
to tell them I assume you like either one or
the other.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Thing about your genitals exactly exactly, I gave any thought
to your genitals, and too far.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I picked a color.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I picked the in seam lengthsage also that's the touchy one,
and then I and then I picked, like, uh, the
size that I thought was appropriate. But then it asked
liner or noliner, and I was like, I'm gonna pull
a plug on that, right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm okay with like small, medium, large choices, but then
like if it gets to be like pants, like.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What's the what's the thirty two, thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Four or the caller side the next size all that
that sounds too intimate.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, there's just a line, right, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, the drones have not not stopped coming, and in fact,
this is getting this is getting kind of weird. There
are briefings that are going on, some of them classified,
some of them not where We've got the FBI, the Coastguard,
Department of Defense, other you know, New Jersey State Police, etc.
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That are briefing lawmakers on what the hell's going on
and the sky's over New Jersey and New York. Congressman
Josh Gotttheimer just this morning held a news conference where
he said, listen, I don't think this is a big deal,
but I need to know this is not and I
need the government to tell me that.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I want you to know that based on the information,
the briefings that I've received to date, I'm not concerned
about any imminent threats to public safety or our national
security regarding these drones. But and I've made this very
clear to the FBI, the Homeland Security in the FAA,
the agency is chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity, they
must immediately disclose more information to the public. It's totally
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completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going
on that people are seeing with their own eyes. And
even if it's not all drone activity, and some of
it is manned aircraft, there appears to be plenty of
drone activity that people are seeing with their own eves.
The fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the
public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Josh Gotttheimer is a Democrat, and he's going after the
sitting administration and the agencies that are working for them
and saying you're not doing enough to assuage the fears
of the people of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Specifically New Jersey. A hobbyist group. Why haven't we heard
from the hobbyist group? And when are people going to
start shooting these things? It's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, there's other we saw.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I don't want to say hysteria because that it brings
with it a negative connotation and awareness of things in
the sky. Think of what happened back when China floated
that balloon across the continental of the United States. People
then started seeing more and more balloons, and we saw
Norads scrambling jets to shoot some balloons out of the
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air because we didn't know what they were doing, and
we didn't know what they were So in this case,
I'm highly suspect of what the government is doing right now,
which is staying incredibly silent about it. It's one thing
to have the guy at the White House Press Briefing podium,
John Kirby, for example, come out and say we believe
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it's manned aircraft. Okay, but what is that me? What
does that mean? Does that mean there is somebody in
a drone? There are big enough you know that style
multi propeller.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Does that make you feel better? Yeah, that's the crime. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So you say it's man where is it going and
what is it doing? Why is it hovering for four
hours in Bob mcgillicutty's backyard.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And what are the rules and why haven't the rules
caught up with the amount of drones out there?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And if this is this is the other part about
it that I think is most frightening. One of the
things that we saw one of the headlines that we've
seen repeatedly over the last couple of years when it
comes to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, when Russia
invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is the use of drones.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Not just drones, you know, predator drones that can drop
our fire missiles, but drones as suicide.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Vehicles or you know, you arm them with.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Explosives and you drive that thing into a tank or
a battalion or whatever. That should be top of mind
for the people who defend us. Why aren't Where is
that defense system against drones? Does it only exist in
those forward operating bases, does it only exist outside of
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the United States? Or do we have the capability here
to defend if this, if these were from uh evildoers.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I think it would just be nice to have an
adult in the room step forward and say, this is
what we have found. This is where they originated, this
is where they're coming from. This is you know it
in the fact that there's no voice, no singular voice.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Can I give you a voice? Yeah, the voice of
the person who is currently in charge. And granted, listen,
if Trump starts sounding like this, I'm gonna play it too.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But this is pretty bad at the moment, and others
could do better than I did. I'm not saying I
was perfect, but ends up at this moment, the best economy,
strongest economy in the world. He sounds full of life
and for all Americans.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Leader, Leader of America, we got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Can't you do not have a lot to do? Kindly
step aside, it is time for you to Also, why
is Nancy Pelosi going to a Battle of the Bulge remembrance?
I mean, I know she was there for it, but
what the hell is she doing being shuttled across the world.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
She's eighty four.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
She's now suffered an injury, admitted to a hospital in Luxembourg.
She pulled a Mitch McConnell. It looks like another person
who should be retired.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
A statement from her office said, while traveling with a
bipartisan Congressional delegation speaker Emerita, Nancy Pelosi sustained an injury
during an official engagement and was admitted to the hospital
for evaluation.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But still no work. Did she I mean, she's eighty four.
Did she fall?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That seems the most likely kind of an injury for
someone to It's not like she was arm wrestling somebody
and snapped her timmy in her Wait a minute, no,
we're radius and Ulna.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I don't want to hear about leg Pelosi's body parts.
Same thing like I don't want to hear about your
dry skin patches.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You asked if I put lotion on. I feel like
you opened the door. You're gonna have to hear about it.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Kono from the Morning Show broke news to me that
Nancy Pelosi trades and people mimicking her trades are a
thing I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Oh you, yes, absolutely, people make money. People make money
off of the moves that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
She has made.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, fascinating.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We will continue and in just a couple of minutes
the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder, specifically that
Luigi Guy was not a United Healthcare insurance holder.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Also, if you want to quit this show, leave now.
Do not stand on the sidelines and refuse to play.
Oh if we need a linebacker, we need a linebacker,
don't suit up if you're not going to go be
a linebacker.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, that was the other thing. Cono said. He's bad
mouth and the forty nine ers fix true. You team lost, No,
they didn't lose, they quit.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and there's a different a bad look.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And then I also become that guy who's like, oh,
you got to catch that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
How do you not catch that? Like I could catch
it and you jump.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Up when you say that you throwing this bottle cap
to me right here at a slow speed.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
How do you not catch that?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You sit down? Sit down, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We were talking about the ongoing drone issue over New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do people sound like paranoid idiots? Get it together?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
It's not that we're paranoid that I think this is Aliens,
or that it's Iran.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Or that it's Russia. But to know who it is. Yeah,
that's the part that bothers me is.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That it's that there's been such a vacuum of information
when it comes to this kind of thing. This should be,
I hope a wake up call to federal and state agencies. Hey,
we need to be able to identify what these things
are pretty quickly, because if this was something that was nefarious,
New Jersey would be gone. Because we don't have the
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ability to defend against this.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
The FBI should come out and say, all right, I
understand that there's unease going on right now, but we
know exactly who's flying these drones. It's the New Jersey
Drone Hobbyist Association and they're gearing up for their holiday
show or whatever. It's the NNGDH or it's a run
in China together, just tell me, you know the answer.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Here's what we are going to see, and I think
this weekend is going to be a key for it.
You're going to see a lot of people reporting drones everywhere.
Last night, apparently there were some over Temecula. There's a
report that there was some mysterious lights moving at extreme
speeds in the skies over Eugene, Oregon a couple of
days ago. We're going to see a huge influx of
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mysterious drone sightings over the next couple of days. The
next step in the Luigi Mangioni case is still trying
to figure out why he targeted Brian Thompson, the CEO
at United Healthcare.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And we now know he was not insured by United Healthcare.
There's no record that he was ever insured by the company.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Interesting because Candice Dalan DeLong is a former FBI profiler
and said that may take away one aspect of motive.
But as we've been saying, people are looking for a
hero and feel when the government doesn't have the ability
to do something, they're going to rely on these vigiliantes
to do it for it doesn't matter that.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
He wasn't personally injured. He seems to have taken it
upon himself to be some kind of avenging angel, and
he has, in what he did, kind of wrapped himself
in this cloak of righteousness. I am here to protect
the rest of all of you from evil insurance companies.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
There's an interesting online footprint that this guy had. We
believe that he was right on Reddit about some of
the health issues that he was going through. He's twenty again,
he's twenty six years old, but he was talked about
changing his diet because of irtable ball syndrome, battling his
chronic back pain, restless sleep, he said in twenty three,
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twenty twenty three, posted about how the back pain came
after a vertebrae had split slipped. Sorry, and he wrote
online he said, when my spondee went bad on me
last year, remember spond spond low life thesis. He said,
it was completely devastating as a young athletic person. Seemingly
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all I could read on the internet was that I
was just destined to chronic pain in a desk job.
And he said that representation was terrifying, inaccurate, and completely
destroyed me until I realized the silent majority of fusion
spinal fusions are highly successful. I mean, this is a
guy who was I could not say that at the
age of twenty five or twenty six, I had anywhere
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near as much medical knowledge as this guy did about
my own well, he.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Was very intelligent, is very intelligent. We've seen that throughout
his entire life, like the most intelligent kid at his
very high profile schools.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
There just had to have been.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I just keep going back to this because it seems
like it's the Oulkham Schraser and it's that there's something
that happens sometimes with young men in particular when they
are in their early twenties psychologically, and it causes a
psychotic break.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
If he is taking We don't know much about his medications, obviously,
but he's in chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's talked about that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He said that he's not on any take killers. That's weird, Yeah,
it would be weird. Florida woman has been arrested in
charge please say she ended a phone call with her
health insurance provider with threats mimicking the wording associated with
this shooter. Now she's forty two. Her name's Breonna Boston.
She was speaking with someone from Blue Cross and she
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was told that her medical claim was denied. And then
at the end of the recorded conversation and she can
be heard saying delay denied.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Depose you people are next.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Arrested for that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's interesting that she chose the words that he wrote
on the bullet casings, which was actually different than the
book title. All about the insurance company and how they
deny claims all the time. Yeah, this guy, this Luigi Mangioni,
by the way, may have been identified by San Francisco
police four days before he was arrested.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, remember he was declared missing from his mom to
San Francisco police months ago because she thought that I'm
sorry it was in November. It was mid November, I
believe when she contacted SFPD and said my son's missing.
She believed him to be in San Francisco. There was
a report out that she hadn't talked to him since July.
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But yeah, it would make sense if he was reported
missing by his mom. It's a rich, high profile family.
It's going to get attention, so they probably had an
id on him.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The San Francisco Chronicle says an SFPD officer tipped off
the FBI after they recognized those surveillance images that were
put out by the NYPD, which of course they would
because hey, they're looking for the guy too. He was reported,
Like you said, November eighteenth was the date that mom
mom reported him.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So oh.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Speaking of the FBI, just a quick headline the new
report that came out yesterday. The FBI did not have
any undercover agents in the crowd in the January sixth
fiasco at the Capitol, but the Justice Department's Inspector General
is a big butt said that they had more than
two dozen informants in the crowd that day. Some of
them were instructed to go there, but many of them
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just went on their own. Three of the informants, referred
to as confidential human sources, were specifically tasked by the
FBI Field Office to go to DC to report on
domestic terrorism case subjects that they had been investigating. And
by the way, a special Holly the edition of Have
you Ever Met This Person before? That's a news feature.
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I guess we're going to start today or something like that. Really, yeah,
I listened to the that's the voice of Russ Taff
and he is the lead singer of the Imperials, or
at least he was when they recorded this.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I listened to the and he is going to join
us later in the show.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You know what's funny is I guess it's not that
big of a coincidence. But I was listening to just
my Spotify Starred playlist or whatever, and that came on
when I got in the car this morning. It was
the first song, but that popped up, and then I
got here and you said, we're interviewing him today.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of course that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, it's not that one.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
College football's bowl season starts tomorrow after Army Navy or
there is the annual Army Navy Game tomorrow, but also
the Jackson State Tigers in South Carolina State Bulldog in
the Cricket Celebration Bowl tomorrow, and the is fourst Salute
to Veterans bull between the South Alabama Jaguars and the
Western Michigan Broncos.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well, it's not the arc of the Covenant, but this
story in the La Times comes straight out of an
Indiana Jones esque type of movie, right, But it's real
life and it's hard to believe that this many people
and this many lives were caught up with this weird
cursed emerald heavy, also very heavy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's emerald.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It's from Brazil.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's called the Bahea Emerald, and it talks about this guy,
this lawyer here in La John Natalenko, who opened up
a letter about ten years ago. It was allegedly from
Brazil and it was a Brazilian government person that wanted
his help to retrieve a stolen eight hundred and thirty
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six pound emerald.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
He said this was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It was the height of the Niget jury and Prince scam,
and I was like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And he just throws it away. I'm a fallen for this.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But then his boss says, could you look into this
to find this Bahea Emerald?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So he's like, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He reaches out to a colleague in his office in Brazil.
I guess it's a big network of PI firms or
what have you, and he learns that the Bahea Emerald
is real and that the Brazilian government was seriously asking
him to help track it down in California.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But I mean trying to trace the lineage.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Of this the provenance of this Bahi emerald is crazy
because it starts back in two thousand and one. A
couple guys from northern California. We're in some financial dire
straits because of a failing tech startup that they got,
So they were going to go and basically buy emeralds
down in Brazil and bring them back to the United
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States and try to make a profit on them to
save this failing investment that they had made.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They were going to use the emeralds as collateral on
a loan to save the startup.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I had never heard of that being done.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So they secured twenty five million dollars, or they would
secure twenty five million dollars worth of small, cut and
polished emeralds from a couple of guys, and they would
use the stones as collateral, like you said, to participate
in the investment program. They was going to make quick money.
They were going to just cash out and everything was
going to be fine. But no one from their group
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was able to assemble a loan that would be used
to buy the cut emeralds in the first place.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But during the trip, the two guys in Brazil who
had actually plucked this thing from a mine in there
in two thousand and one, decided to take the Americans
to show them this Bahea emerald. Remember, they were going
to look for smaller emeralds, and there said, well look
at this one. A month later, one of the guys
from northern California wires one of the guys from Brazil
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sixty thousand dollars a fee that he said was used
to purchase the Bahea emeralds, But in court documents they lied.
They said this was used to cover the cost of
cutting and polishing a collection of emeralds that they had
gathered for this loan. In the meantime, the Bahea emerald
mysteriously disappears in transit to California. They think it was
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someone in the Brazilian government to blame, so they never
file a theft report. Of course, they never file a
theft report because this is all under the table.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Shenanigans now.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And the guy, when he was asked about where the
bill of sale was, did you guys keep the receipt
on this thing? He say, oh, yeah, well actually I
mean I did keep the receipt, but it burned up
when my house burned down in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So a judge gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
In twenty fourteen, a judge in La County and said
that that guy's testimony was like sand in the wind,
constantly shifting and changing its shape.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, the guy that he went with to Brazil, the
other guy from northern California, those two the fall of
their business, had a falling out themselves. Apparently it was
his business partner turned rival that ended up possessing the emeralds.
That guy sent the stone from Northern California to a
storage facility in New Orleans where it happened to become
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submerged for weeks after Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So so what they're going to do is they they're
going to sell this whole thing. If a guy's going
to say, you know what, let's cut our losses. Just
sell this whole, this eight hundred and thirty six pound
block that has a bunch of emeralds in it and
will cash out. So they enlist a couple guys, Larry
and Jerry one Larry the plumber, Jerry the gem dealer.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You can't make this up. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So they ship the stone back to San Jose try
to get a buyer.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They can't, and.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Then Larry the Plumber says to Jerry the gem dealer
that he was kidnapped by Brazilian warlords asked him to
send ransom money. So it was the gem dealer, Jerry,
who decided to take over efforts to sell the stone
because the Plumber had gone off the deep end.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Jerry sells the stone, transports it to a storage facility
in al Monty, couldn't or wanted to sell it, couldn't
find a buyer, but uses it as collateral for some
other gem deals that he's been doing. That deal falls
through the other one that he was using this collateral for.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He moves the stone to Vegas.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Now not happy about the disappearance of the Emerald, the
guy actually reported it stolen, Larry Larry the Plumber reported
it stolen from el Monty. So the La County Sheriff's
Department gets involved. And I can't imagine what that call
was like for these guys who were like, Okay, now
what wait, where did it come from?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You just said it was in Hurricane Katrina. It goes
from there to Idaho, It goes from Idaho to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
My favorite part is when the detectives from the La
County Sheriff's department go to Idaho where they basically threatened
to unwrap every present underneath the Christmas tree and the
home where the gem is supposed to be to look
for it.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
To look for it. Now, a judge finally gets involved.
They find it in Vegas, they bring it back to
it's an evidence now here in La County. The judge
decides after all of this, it still belongs to the
government of Brazil, and basically what it is is that
if there's no appeal, they're going to do a full
repatriation ceremony for this eight hundred and thirty six pound
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emerald back to Brazil.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But the stone, when smuggled here back in two thousand
and five, came with it. All of these crazy stories, right,
some are fact, some are fiction. There's the guy from
northern California who swore his house burned to the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
There was the.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Startup guys who lost it to the flooding of the hurricane.
There was the plumber that I aimed he was kidnapped
by Brazilian war lords. So there's all this talk about
it being a cursed gem. I think the people involved
with the gem and acquiring the gem were just a
bunch of liars and charlatans, and that's where these stories
came from. However, the detective right the PI that was
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contacted by the Brazilian government says, I'd love to see
it in person, but there's a small part of me
that may just throw salt over my left shoulder, keep
my fingers crossed behind my back.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Stay away.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I have always dreamed about a dog that could speak
and understand what I tell it.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Speak Hi there?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Did that dog just say Hi there?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, my name is Doug. I have just met you,
and I love you. My master made me his collar.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He is a coded smart master, and he made me
his collar so that I may talk squirrel.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And you may have seen the videos.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
There have been plenty of them, even small documentaries made
about dogs using sound boards, where you teach a dog
certain words. You know, you push a little button like
the little Staples buttons, little red button. You push the
button and it says a word, and the dog knows
that that word and that button gets it something, gets it, food,
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gets it, pet get petted, petited, petted, gets it to
go outside. Gets it's a toy, whatever it is. But
I mean those you can train a dog to do that.
You can train a bunch of animals to do that.
But there you see San Diego Comparative Cognition lab, which
when I go back to school, that's exactly where I'm going,
shows that dogs that are trained to use these soundboards
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are capable of making two word combinations that go beyond
what would otherwise be random behavior or a simple imitation
of what their owners are teaching it. That's that they
can at least put together two words. Frederico Rozzano is
an associate professor of cognitive science that you see San
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Diego and said, dogs are pressing buttons purposefully to express
their desires and needs, for example, words like outside or
treat or play or potty but I hate that word potty. Notably,
accommodations like outside and potty or food and water are
used in meaningful ways that they occur more frequently than
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they would if it was just left up to simple chance.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
What do you hate worse? Potty or tummy?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I said the word scramby when I was offering to
make my wife eggs.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
How do you want your eggs?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You want a little scram maybe?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
She said, never, never say it straight face, angry tone. Yeah,
never say that again, because it's not sexy. She said,
she didn't say that, but what she said was low tea,
Yeah exactly. And I said, and then I go, you
can't tell me not to do something, because then I said,
would would mommy like scramby eggs for her tummy? And
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then she turned around and left. Yes, I haven't seen
her for three days. For three days, is.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Your dog still unwrapping presence under the tree?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Uh? No, thankfully?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
What did you do to deter this behavior?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
There's a gate, there's a there's a little gate, so
he can't.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Get the puppy gate, so little Poppy can't go to
the potty.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What I.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Need is to put a train around the bottom of
my tree so that the train runs them over, like my.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Child at home.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You don't have a child.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You have a husband who puts a train under the tree.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But he did he call it a chu chuo? No, no, see,
you would say, you'd say low tea, and you'd turn
around and leave. That would be the last words that
he heard you say.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
See, that's great.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
One of the other dog stories that I found also was,
she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
There are dogs I wish I could.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
There are dogs that have been captured near the Chernobyl
nuclear power plant, and they said that they have developed.
I mean there have been a couple generations. Obviously, the
Chernobyl was eighty six, right, there have been a couple
of generations of dogs that have been born since then.
And the current crop of dogs that exist in that
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Chernobyl exclusion zone are they use the word immune to radiation,
but I don't know if they're immune to it, but
they're at least not as affected by it as other
organisms would be. So in other words, what they did
to conduct this study about these dogs, these feral dogs
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that live there is the blood samples were collected during
vaccination procedures back in twenty eighteen and nineteen, and the
samples are transported to America where we did DNA extraction
and analysis, and they said that there were four hundred
outer outlier low SI genomic locations showed extremely divergent patterns
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from the rest of the genome. Fifty two of those
genes associated with out the outlier low side that could
be linked to environmental contamination because of the nuclear power plant,
and those mutations have been passed down through generations. But
They said that those mutations are the things that enabled
these dogs to live in the conditions of the exclusion zones.
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One of the most interesting things they said was that
they found about ten percent of the DNA of all
of the dogs they tested, about ten percent of it
was German shepherd and they don't know if there's they
don't know if it's that's just the kind of dog
that was living in the area, that was predominant in
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the area at the time that this family tree started,
or if it was something specific about the German shepherd
DNA that made it more resilient and therefore it was
the it was the genetic soup that survived.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Chernobyl genetic soup. Yeah, if you didn't have that on
your Bengo card, well for this day.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
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but my husband this morning says, did you get Gary
a Christmas present yet? And I said I did, And
he said, oh, okay, because I was gonna recommend you
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get him that face stuff that I use. And I go,
you know what I thought about it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I said, but that's like.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Weird, Like I'm not going to get him grooming products,
like that's odd.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I actually there's a funny thing. Yes, there is a
line about what you can buy.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, okay, yes, And so then he says it was
a whole thing. So then he says, well, why don't
you tell him that it was from me? And then
it's not weird? And I'm like, that's kind of okay,
that would weird, that would work. Yes, I was actually
going to buy a friend. I was going to buy
a friend some workout shorts that I like that I
that I've used in there. It's a great brand and
(01:00):
super comfortable and all that sort of stuff. And as
I'm going through and I'm ordering a pair of shorts. Uh,
it says liner or no liner, and I thought that's
too much.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Like I just assumed, like even if it came with
the liner, which is like the built in boxer short
kind of thing, our boxer briefs. Basically, if it had
just come with it, I would have been okay, and
I would have bought the shorts and been like, I
really like these shorts and here's you know, I hope
the right size and if not, very easily don't know.
Just so it was that decision between liner and no liner.
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I was like, that's too far, because then I have
to tell them I assume you like either one or
the other.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Thing about your genitals exactly exactly, I gave any thought
to your genitals, and too far.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I picked a color.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I picked the in seam lengthsage also that's the touchy one,
and then I and then I picked, like, uh, the
size that I thought was appropriate. But then it asked
liner or noliner, and I was like, I'm gonna pull
a plug on that, right.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm okay with like small, medium, large choices, but then
like if it gets to be like pants, like.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What's the what's the thirty two, thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Four or the caller side the next size all that
that sounds too intimate.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, there's just a line, right, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, the drones have not not stopped coming, and in fact,
this is getting this is getting kind of weird. There
are briefings that are going on, some of them classified,
some of them not where We've got the FBI, the Coastguard,
Department of Defense, other you know, New Jersey State Police, etc.
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That are briefing lawmakers on what the hell's going on
and the sky's over New Jersey and New York. Congressman
Josh Gotttheimer just this morning held a news conference where
he said, listen, I don't think this is a big deal,
but I need to know this is not and I
need the government to tell me that.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I want you to know that based on the information,
the briefings that I've received to date, I'm not concerned
about any imminent threats to public safety or our national
security regarding these drones. But and I've made this very
clear to the FBI, the Homeland Security in the FAA,
the agency is chiefly responsible for monitoring drone activity, they
must immediately disclose more information to the public. It's totally
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completely unacceptable that you have all this drone activity going
on that people are seeing with their own eyes. And
even if it's not all drone activity, and some of
it is manned aircraft, there appears to be plenty of
drone activity that people are seeing with their own eves.
The fact that the federal agencies responsible for briefing the
public have not come forward in a clear way is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Josh Gotttheimer is a Democrat, and he's going after the
sitting administration and the agencies that are working for them
and saying you're not doing enough to assuage the fears
of the people of the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Specifically New Jersey. A hobbyist group. Why haven't we heard
from the hobbyist group? And when are people going to
start shooting these things? It's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, there's other we saw.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I don't want to say hysteria because that it brings
with it a negative connotation and awareness of things in
the sky. Think of what happened back when China floated
that balloon across the continental of the United States. People
then started seeing more and more balloons, and we saw
Norads scrambling jets to shoot some balloons out of the
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air because we didn't know what they were doing, and
we didn't know what they were So in this case,
I'm highly suspect of what the government is doing right now,
which is staying incredibly silent about it. It's one thing
to have the guy at the White House Press Briefing podium,
John Kirby, for example, come out and say we believe
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it's manned aircraft. Okay, but what is that me? What
does that mean? Does that mean there is somebody in
a drone? There are big enough you know that style
multi propeller.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Does that make you feel better? Yeah, that's the crime. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
So you say it's man where is it going and
what is it doing? Why is it hovering for four
hours in Bob mcgillicutty's backyard.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And what are the rules and why haven't the rules
caught up with the amount of drones out there?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And if this is this is the other part about
it that I think is most frightening. One of the
things that we saw one of the headlines that we've
seen repeatedly over the last couple of years when it
comes to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, when Russia
invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is the use of drones.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Not just drones, you know, predator drones that can drop
our fire missiles, but drones as suicide.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Vehicles or you know, you arm them with.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Explosives and you drive that thing into a tank or
a battalion or whatever. That should be top of mind
for the people who defend us. Why aren't Where is
that defense system against drones? Does it only exist in
those forward operating bases, does it only exist outside of
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the United States? Or do we have the capability here
to defend if this, if these were from uh evildoers.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I think it would just be nice to have an
adult in the room step forward and say, this is
what we have found. This is where they originated, this
is where they're coming from. This is you know it
in the fact that there's no voice, no singular voice.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Can I give you a voice? Yeah, the voice of
the person who is currently in charge. And granted, listen,
if Trump starts sounding like this, I'm gonna play it too.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But this is pretty bad at the moment, and others
could do better than I did. I'm not saying I
was perfect, but ends up at this moment, the best economy,
strongest economy in the world. He sounds full of life
and for all Americans.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Leader, Leader of America, we got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Can't you do not have a lot to do? Kindly
step aside, it is time for you to Also, why
is Nancy Pelosi going to a Battle of the Bulge remembrance?
I mean, I know she was there for it, but
what the hell is she doing being shuttled across the world.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
She's eighty four.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
She's now suffered an injury, admitted to a hospital in Luxembourg.
She pulled a Mitch McConnell. It looks like another person
who should be retired.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
A statement from her office said, while traveling with a
bipartisan Congressional delegation speaker Emerita, Nancy Pelosi sustained an injury
during an official engagement and was admitted to the hospital
for evaluation.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But still no work. Did she I mean, she's eighty four.
Did she fall?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That seems the most likely kind of an injury for
someone to It's not like she was arm wrestling somebody
and snapped her timmy in her Wait a minute, no,
we're radius and Ulna.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I don't want to hear about leg Pelosi's body parts.
Same thing like I don't want to hear about your
dry skin patches.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You asked if I put lotion on. I feel like
you opened the door. You're gonna have to hear about it.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Kono from the Morning Show broke news to me that
Nancy Pelosi trades and people mimicking her trades are a
thing I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Oh you, yes, absolutely, people make money. People make money
off of the moves that.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
She has made.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, fascinating.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We will continue and in just a couple of minutes
the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder, specifically that
Luigi Guy was not a United Healthcare insurance holder.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Also, if you want to quit this show, leave now.
Do not stand on the sidelines and refuse to play.
Oh if we need a linebacker, we need a linebacker,
don't suit up if you're not going to go be
a linebacker.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, that was the other thing. Cono said. He's bad
mouth and the forty nine ers fix true. You team lost, No,
they didn't lose, they quit.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and there's a different a bad look.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And then I also become that guy who's like, oh,
you got to catch that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
How do you not catch that? Like I could catch
it and you jump.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Up when you say that you throwing this bottle cap
to me right here at a slow speed.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
How do you not catch that?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You sit down? Sit down, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We were talking about the ongoing drone issue over New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do people sound like paranoid idiots? Get it together?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
It's not that we're paranoid that I think this is Aliens,
or that it's Iran.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Or that it's Russia. But to know who it is. Yeah,
that's the part that bothers me is.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That it's that there's been such a vacuum of information
when it comes to this kind of thing. This should be,
I hope a wake up call to federal and state agencies. Hey,
we need to be able to identify what these things
are pretty quickly, because if this was something that was nefarious,
New Jersey would be gone. Because we don't have the
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ability to defend against this.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
The FBI should come out and say, all right, I
understand that there's unease going on right now, but we
know exactly who's flying these drones. It's the New Jersey
Drone Hobbyist Association and they're gearing up for their holiday
show or whatever. It's the NNGDH or it's a run
in China together, just tell me, you know the answer.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Here's what we are going to see, and I think
this weekend is going to be a key for it.
You're going to see a lot of people reporting drones everywhere.
Last night, apparently there were some over Temecula. There's a
report that there was some mysterious lights moving at extreme
speeds in the skies over Eugene, Oregon a couple of
days ago. We're going to see a huge influx of
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mysterious drone sightings over the next couple of days. The
next step in the Luigi Mangioni case is still trying
to figure out why he targeted Brian Thompson, the CEO
at United Healthcare.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And we now know he was not insured by United Healthcare.
There's no record that he was ever insured by the company.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Interesting because Candice Dalan DeLong is a former FBI profiler
and said that may take away one aspect of motive.
But as we've been saying, people are looking for a
hero and feel when the government doesn't have the ability
to do something, they're going to rely on these vigiliantes
to do it for it doesn't matter that.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
He wasn't personally injured. He seems to have taken it
upon himself to be some kind of avenging angel, and
he has, in what he did, kind of wrapped himself
in this cloak of righteousness. I am here to protect
the rest of all of you from evil insurance companies.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
There's an interesting online footprint that this guy had. We
believe that he was right on Reddit about some of
the health issues that he was going through. He's twenty again,
he's twenty six years old, but he was talked about
changing his diet because of irtable ball syndrome, battling his
chronic back pain, restless sleep, he said in twenty three,
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twenty twenty three, posted about how the back pain came
after a vertebrae had split slipped. Sorry, and he wrote
online he said, when my spondee went bad on me
last year, remember spond spond low life thesis. He said,
it was completely devastating as a young athletic person. Seemingly
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all I could read on the internet was that I
was just destined to chronic pain in a desk job.
And he said that representation was terrifying, inaccurate, and completely
destroyed me until I realized the silent majority of fusion
spinal fusions are highly successful. I mean, this is a
guy who was I could not say that at the
age of twenty five or twenty six, I had anywhere
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near as much medical knowledge as this guy did about
my own well, he.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Was very intelligent, is very intelligent. We've seen that throughout
his entire life, like the most intelligent kid at his
very high profile schools.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
There just had to have been.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I just keep going back to this because it seems
like it's the Oulkham Schraser and it's that there's something
that happens sometimes with young men in particular when they
are in their early twenties psychologically, and it causes a
psychotic break.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And I wonder if.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
If he is taking We don't know much about his medications, obviously,
but he's in chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's talked about that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He said that he's not on any take killers. That's weird, Yeah,
it would be weird. Florida woman has been arrested in
charge please say she ended a phone call with her
health insurance provider with threats mimicking the wording associated with
this shooter. Now she's forty two. Her name's Breonna Boston.
She was speaking with someone from Blue Cross and she
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was told that her medical claim was denied. And then
at the end of the recorded conversation and she can
be heard saying delay denied.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Depose you people are next.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Arrested for that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's interesting that she chose the words that he wrote
on the bullet casings, which was actually different than the
book title. All about the insurance company and how they
deny claims all the time. Yeah, this guy, this Luigi Mangioni,
by the way, may have been identified by San Francisco
police four days before he was arrested.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, remember he was declared missing from his mom to
San Francisco police months ago because she thought that I'm
sorry it was in November. It was mid November, I
believe when she contacted SFPD and said my son's missing.
She believed him to be in San Francisco. There was
a report out that she hadn't talked to him since July.
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But yeah, it would make sense if he was reported
missing by his mom. It's a rich, high profile family.
It's going to get attention, so they probably had an
id on him.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The San Francisco Chronicle says an SFPD officer tipped off
the FBI after they recognized those surveillance images that were
put out by the NYPD, which of course they would
because hey, they're looking for the guy too. He was reported,
Like you said, November eighteenth was the date that mom
mom reported him.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So oh.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Speaking of the FBI, just a quick headline the new
report that came out yesterday. The FBI did not have
any undercover agents in the crowd in the January sixth
fiasco at the Capitol, but the Justice Department's Inspector General
is a big butt said that they had more than
two dozen informants in the crowd that day. Some of
them were instructed to go there, but many of them
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just went on their own. Three of the informants, referred
to as confidential human sources, were specifically tasked by the
FBI Field Office to go to DC to report on
domestic terrorism case subjects that they had been investigating. And
by the way, a special Holly the edition of Have
you Ever Met This Person before? That's a news feature.
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I guess we're going to start today or something like that. Really, yeah,
I listened to the that's the voice of Russ Taff
and he is the lead singer of the Imperials, or
at least he was when they recorded this.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I listened to the and he is going to join
us later in the show.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You know what's funny is I guess it's not that
big of a coincidence. But I was listening to just
my Spotify Starred playlist or whatever, and that came on
when I got in the car this morning. It was
the first song, but that popped up, and then I
got here and you said, we're interviewing him today.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Of course that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, it's not that one.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
College football's bowl season starts tomorrow after Army Navy or
there is the annual Army Navy Game tomorrow, but also
the Jackson State Tigers in South Carolina State Bulldog in
the Cricket Celebration Bowl tomorrow, and the is fourst Salute
to Veterans bull between the South Alabama Jaguars and the
Western Michigan Broncos.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well, it's not the arc of the Covenant, but this
story in the La Times comes straight out of an
Indiana Jones esque type of movie, right, But it's real
life and it's hard to believe that this many people
and this many lives were caught up with this weird
cursed emerald heavy, also very heavy.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's emerald.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It's from Brazil.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's called the Bahea Emerald, and it talks about this guy,
this lawyer here in La John Natalenko, who opened up
a letter about ten years ago. It was allegedly from
Brazil and it was a Brazilian government person that wanted
his help to retrieve a stolen eight hundred and thirty
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six pound emerald.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
He said this was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It was the height of the Niget jury and Prince scam,
and I was like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And he just throws it away. I'm a fallen for this.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But then his boss says, could you look into this
to find this Bahea Emerald?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So he's like, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He reaches out to a colleague in his office in Brazil.
I guess it's a big network of PI firms or
what have you, and he learns that the Bahea Emerald
is real and that the Brazilian government was seriously asking
him to help track it down in California.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But I mean trying to trace the lineage.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Of this the provenance of this Bahi emerald is crazy
because it starts back in two thousand and one. A
couple guys from northern California. We're in some financial dire
straits because of a failing tech startup that they got,
So they were going to go and basically buy emeralds
down in Brazil and bring them back to the United
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States and try to make a profit on them to
save this failing investment that they had made.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They were going to use the emeralds as collateral on
a loan to save the startup.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I had never heard of that being done.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So they secured twenty five million dollars, or they would
secure twenty five million dollars worth of small, cut and
polished emeralds from a couple of guys, and they would
use the stones as collateral, like you said, to participate
in the investment program. They was going to make quick money.
They were going to just cash out and everything was
going to be fine. But no one from their group
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was able to assemble a loan that would be used
to buy the cut emeralds in the first place.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But during the trip, the two guys in Brazil who
had actually plucked this thing from a mine in there
in two thousand and one, decided to take the Americans
to show them this Bahea emerald. Remember, they were going
to look for smaller emeralds, and there said, well look
at this one. A month later, one of the guys
from northern California wires one of the guys from Brazil
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sixty thousand dollars a fee that he said was used
to purchase the Bahea emeralds, But in court documents they lied.
They said this was used to cover the cost of
cutting and polishing a collection of emeralds that they had
gathered for this loan. In the meantime, the Bahea emerald
mysteriously disappears in transit to California. They think it was
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someone in the Brazilian government to blame, so they never
file a theft report. Of course, they never file a
theft report because this is all under the table.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Shenanigans now.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And the guy, when he was asked about where the
bill of sale was, did you guys keep the receipt
on this thing? He say, oh, yeah, well actually I
mean I did keep the receipt, but it burned up
when my house burned down in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So a judge gets involved.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
In twenty fourteen, a judge in La County and said
that that guy's testimony was like sand in the wind,
constantly shifting and changing its shape.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, the guy that he went with to Brazil, the
other guy from northern California, those two the fall of
their business, had a falling out themselves. Apparently it was
his business partner turned rival that ended up possessing the emeralds.
That guy sent the stone from Northern California to a
storage facility in New Orleans where it happened to become
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submerged for weeks after Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So so what they're going to do is they they're
going to sell this whole thing. If a guy's going
to say, you know what, let's cut our losses. Just
sell this whole, this eight hundred and thirty six pound
block that has a bunch of emeralds in it and
will cash out. So they enlist a couple guys, Larry
and Jerry one Larry the plumber, Jerry the gem dealer.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You can't make this up. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So they ship the stone back to San Jose try
to get a buyer.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
They can't, and.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Then Larry the Plumber says to Jerry the gem dealer
that he was kidnapped by Brazilian warlords asked him to
send ransom money. So it was the gem dealer, Jerry,
who decided to take over efforts to sell the stone
because the Plumber had gone off the deep end.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Jerry sells the stone, transports it to a storage facility
in al Monty, couldn't or wanted to sell it, couldn't
find a buyer, but uses it as collateral for some
other gem deals that he's been doing. That deal falls
through the other one that he was using this collateral for.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
He moves the stone to Vegas.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Now not happy about the disappearance of the Emerald, the
guy actually reported it stolen, Larry Larry the Plumber reported
it stolen from el Monty. So the La County Sheriff's
Department gets involved. And I can't imagine what that call
was like for these guys who were like, Okay, now
what wait, where did it come from?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You just said it was in Hurricane Katrina. It goes
from there to Idaho, It goes from Idaho to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
My favorite part is when the detectives from the La
County Sheriff's department go to Idaho where they basically threatened
to unwrap every present underneath the Christmas tree and the
home where the gem is supposed to be to look
for it.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
To look for it. Now, a judge finally gets involved.
They find it in Vegas, they bring it back to
it's an evidence now here in La County. The judge
decides after all of this, it still belongs to the
government of Brazil, and basically what it is is that
if there's no appeal, they're going to do a full
repatriation ceremony for this eight hundred and thirty six pound
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emerald back to Brazil.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But the stone, when smuggled here back in two thousand
and five, came with it. All of these crazy stories, right,
some are fact, some are fiction. There's the guy from
northern California who swore his house burned to the ground.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
There was the.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Startup guys who lost it to the flooding of the hurricane.
There was the plumber that I aimed he was kidnapped
by Brazilian war lords. So there's all this talk about
it being a cursed gem. I think the people involved
with the gem and acquiring the gem were just a
bunch of liars and charlatans, and that's where these stories
came from. However, the detective right the PI that was
(24:18):
contacted by the Brazilian government says, I'd love to see
it in person, but there's a small part of me
that may just throw salt over my left shoulder, keep
my fingers crossed behind my back.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Stay away.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I have always dreamed about a dog that could speak
and understand what I tell it.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Speak Hi there?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Did that dog just say Hi there?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, my name is Doug. I have just met you,
and I love you. My master made me his collar.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
He is a coded smart master, and he made me
his collar so that I may talk squirrel.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And you may have seen the videos.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
There have been plenty of them, even small documentaries made
about dogs using sound boards, where you teach a dog
certain words. You know, you push a little button like
the little Staples buttons, little red button. You push the
button and it says a word, and the dog knows
that that word and that button gets it something, gets it, food,
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gets it, pet get petted, petited, petted, gets it to
go outside. Gets it's a toy, whatever it is. But
I mean those you can train a dog to do that.
You can train a bunch of animals to do that.
But there you see San Diego Comparative Cognition lab, which
when I go back to school, that's exactly where I'm going,
shows that dogs that are trained to use these soundboards
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are capable of making two word combinations that go beyond
what would otherwise be random behavior or a simple imitation
of what their owners are teaching it. That's that they
can at least put together two words. Frederico Rozzano is
an associate professor of cognitive science that you see San
(25:58):
Diego and said, dogs are pressing buttons purposefully to express
their desires and needs, for example, words like outside or
treat or play or potty but I hate that word potty. Notably,
accommodations like outside and potty or food and water are
used in meaningful ways that they occur more frequently than
(26:22):
they would if it was just left up to simple chance.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
What do you hate worse? Potty or tummy?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I said the word scramby when I was offering to
make my wife eggs.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
How do you want your eggs?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You want a little scram maybe?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
She said, never, never say it straight face, angry tone. Yeah,
never say that again, because it's not sexy. She said,
she didn't say that, but what she said was low tea,
Yeah exactly. And I said, and then I go, you
can't tell me not to do something, because then I said,
would would mommy like scramby eggs for her tummy? And
(26:57):
then she turned around and left. Yes, I haven't seen
her for three days. For three days, is.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Your dog still unwrapping presence under the tree?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Uh? No, thankfully?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
What did you do to deter this behavior?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
There's a gate, there's a there's a little gate, so
he can't.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Get the puppy gate, so little Poppy can't go to
the potty.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What I.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Need is to put a train around the bottom of
my tree so that the train runs them over, like my.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Child at home.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You don't have a child.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You have a husband who puts a train under the tree.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But he did he call it a chu chuo? No, no, see,
you would say, you'd say low tea, and you'd turn
around and leave. That would be the last words that
he heard you say.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
See, that's great.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
One of the other dog stories that I found also was,
she's so funny.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
There are dogs I wish I could.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
There are dogs that have been captured near the Chernobyl
nuclear power plant, and they said that they have developed.
I mean there have been a couple generations. Obviously, the
Chernobyl was eighty six, right, there have been a couple
of generations of dogs that have been born since then.
And the current crop of dogs that exist in that
(28:11):
Chernobyl exclusion zone are they use the word immune to radiation,
but I don't know if they're immune to it, but
they're at least not as affected by it as other
organisms would be. So in other words, what they did
to conduct this study about these dogs, these feral dogs
(28:31):
that live there is the blood samples were collected during
vaccination procedures back in twenty eighteen and nineteen, and the
samples are transported to America where we did DNA extraction
and analysis, and they said that there were four hundred
outer outlier low SI genomic locations showed extremely divergent patterns
(28:53):
from the rest of the genome. Fifty two of those
genes associated with out the outlier low side that could
be linked to environmental contamination because of the nuclear power plant,
and those mutations have been passed down through generations. But
They said that those mutations are the things that enabled
these dogs to live in the conditions of the exclusion zones.
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One of the most interesting things they said was that
they found about ten percent of the DNA of all
of the dogs they tested, about ten percent of it
was German shepherd and they don't know if there's they
don't know if it's that's just the kind of dog
that was living in the area, that was predominant in
(29:35):
the area at the time that this family tree started,
or if it was something specific about the German shepherd
DNA that made it more resilient and therefore it was
the it was the genetic soup that survived.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Chernobyl genetic soup. Yeah, if you didn't have that on
your Bengo card, well for this day.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
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