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January 21, 2025 24 mins
Gary and Shannon begin the second hour for the show with the news of Vivek Ramaswamy leaving DOGE to run for Ohio Governor. Gary and Shannon also talk about President Trump wanting to buy Greenland and renaming the Gulf of Mexico.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. It is a Tuesday, January twenty first,
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the party that is the Gary and Channon Show.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
We have just made it through the particularly dangerous weather situation.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Are they're going to say a dangerous nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
No, but that means that we've made it this far
without a significant fire threat. There were a couple small ones.
They were put out very quickly. We are still not
outside of our red flag fire warnings because of the
current conditions, and the winds have died down significantly from
what they were yesterday at this time, but again, we're
not completely out of it. The expectation is that the

(00:44):
red flag warnings will stay in effect until about ten
o'clock tonight. Speaking of which, by the way, President Trump
did mention that he's headed out to California the end
of this week to check out fire damage. The expectation
is that he's also going to stop rue North Carolina.
He's going to make a trip there first and then
come out to California North Carolina to follow up on

(01:08):
the hurricane recovery efforts from back there.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, that was a big Republican talking point that Biden
left them out in the cold, so to speak, because
of you know, suppressing the vote or what have you
in a red area, red districts and things like that.
So that was a big thing on the alt right
Twitter world of people going to North Carolina to help
because the Biden administration was doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The President and the First Lady attended a National Prayer
ceremony this morning. He is expected to give a big
speech on infrastructure this afternoon, and he is meeting currently
with House Speaker Mike Johnson, Senate Majority Leader John Thune,
and some other Republican leaders that are the ones who
are going to help him push whatever agenda he's got

(01:53):
through Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
We will get to vivek Ramaswami being forced out of doze,
but first I think everybody's to hear who is the
number one meteorologist according to Google in the Greater Los
Angeles area.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, we're talking about the story because the Weather Channel
is going to be providing weather reports for a series
of television stations around the country. The Weather Channel, based
in Atlanta, is going to outsource these weather reports to
places like Iowa and North Dakota and other places around
the country without having a local meteorologist on the ground.

(02:28):
We were going to ask, you know, who's the best
weather person in Los Angeles? And I wanted to know
if there had ever been a list put together or something,
So I just typed into Google best weather person Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Now you know that people are going to take umbrage
with whatever Google says.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Not me, it's Google.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Don't kill the messenger, folks, it's it's mister Google. Dallas
Rains number one.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
It doesn't even it's not even a list. It's just
Dallas Rains is what comes up. Wow, it's got his
Wikipedia entry, it's got his bio from ABC seven.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's his real name.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I think it's Dallas Rains. I mean, yes, how do
you grow?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
We've done stories like this where people are named things
like Paul Fish and he ends up being a fisherman.
It happens. You think he is named Rains from birth
and he just took a liking to the the rain.
I mean, he's well Rains. He went to d BAC University.
Fling State University is spelled with an e all right,

(03:35):
so interesting. Hmmm, it's just at that point a homonym.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So what you call that?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
The word? Sure, homonym. But we were asking who's your
favorite weather Gillian I can't remember her name, but I
think she was on Channel five with the.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Other woman, Yeah, Jillian Barbary.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And I think the guy that passed away, he did not.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Steve Edwards is alive and well and with us, Jillian Barbary,
they had some good chemistry.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That show.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Steve Edwards with Jillian and Dorothy Lucy was fun.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just remember that. Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So I fancied myself a very serious newsperson at one
point and as a reporter for years. And I came
to LA and I was young, and I thought that
I was a very serious newsperson twenty five, twenty six
years old, and I I'm watching the I turn on
It's my first week in LA, just hired at KFI,

(04:37):
getting ready for work. Turn on the local news and
there's Gillian and Dorothy and Steve Edwards and there's a
shuttle launch that morning, and Jillian is putting on her
lipstick on camera, sitting at the desk, and I was like,
oh my gosh, what have I done? Coming to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
They are not taking this seriously.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Oh how funny man is on kt LA Henry de Carlo.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
He's a great weather man.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's nice to look.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
At and he also gives back to the community.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Keep it right. See it's hard to talk about Henry
and not talk about his looks, though.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Isn't it. I talk about Henry all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I mean he's a good looking guy. I mean my
husband will say it. You know, he's a good looking guy.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, but does he say it unprompted or do you add?
I mean, is he l I think.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Comes up like I don't know, a couple times a day.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Good morning, Gary and Shannon. This is reethe from Long Beach,
of course, Fritz Coleman. It's a great one. Yes, also
great personality. Hey, you missed any part of our show.
You can always check out the podcast. Go to KFI
A M six forty dot com, slash Gary and Shannon,
or just search wherever you listen to your podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Usually we make a pitch for the podcast after we
say something relatively interesting. F YI, that's a good point, right,
But I mean we said interesting things, said Fritz Coleman,
What more do you want it's It's funny how these
things work, palace intrigue things, isn't it. We had first
heard that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami, we're going to

(06:10):
team up to get rid of government waste. They were
going to create this new government agency, the Department of
Government Efficiency, and they were asking people to work for free,
eighty ninety hour work weeks for free, to go through
all the weedy things in government and weed out all
of the blubber, all the fat, all the waste.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I thought it sounded good.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I know people that work for the federal government who
are scared that their jobs will be eliminated. However, you
were one of the first people to bring up, wait
a minute here, how are these two type A alpha
dogs going to work together?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
How is this going to work?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, it turns out it didn't last very long for
that reason on its face, and yesterday we heard that
through out the weekend there was this move to push
out Vivek and I materialized yesterday all with this whole
weird subplot that he's going to announce a run for
Ohio governor next week. And I say, pallets at the

(07:14):
intrigue for that point, alone, the fact that he's going
to run for Ohio governor. That's a very powerful governor
post Ohio a very powerful state. They just came off
winning the national championship, and you know there's got to
be national influence at play for you to capture Ohio.
So you've got to believe he was given the blessing. Hey,

(07:34):
we'll get you Ohio if you step down from this
and let Elon run the show.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah. I think that that's got to be the way
that it went. Yeah, because he The other aspect of
it is he has enough of a personality. And we've
talked about this before. What does it take for someone
to run for president? You got to have a pretty
outsized ego, and those people who run for president just

(08:00):
generally have outsized egos. Now, some of them deserve it,
some of them don't. Some of them are running because
they're I don't know why. But but he had that ego,
and he I think convinced himself that he was capable
of doing that because he can win arguments. He's a
smart enough guy, very learned, very well spoken. He he

(08:22):
believes that he can win that sort of thing. So
I almost feel like he took this this position at
Doge just to kind of keep his.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hat in the ring, sure, just enough, just to be
in the orbit, get people to keep talking about him.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
So that yeah, so that in the event he does
need to cash in his chips, this is how he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think I believe this was the play from the beginning,
and everybody knew it. I believe Elon Musk knew it,
Vivek knew it, Trump knew it that they were going
to use this as a launching pad. And I think
that Vivek maybe got a little too mouthy recently talking
about the H.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
One N one.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, that's not right, b Visas, and that was kind
of the nail and the coffin there they said.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
One of the reasons that Republicans would have probably been
frustrated was when we were discussing discussing H one B Visas,
he criticized American culture, and he went on X and
said that tech companies higher foreign workers in part because
of a mindset in the country that has venerated mediocrity
over excellence. Some people had told Politico, for example, that

(09:28):
they wanted him out before that, but they kicked him
to the curb when that came out, and again, I
don't think it's a matter of necessarily them kicking him
to the curb. I think, more to your point, it's
him cashing in his chips. He was an ardent supporter
of Donald Trump. Once he dropped out of the race,
he threw all of his weight behind Donald Trump, and
I think this is a repayment for that.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I don't understand the fight over the H one B
visas because Elon Musk, Trump and Vivek or all fans
of the H one B visa. These are the visas
where we find the best, in the best and the
brightest abroad and bring them over so that they can
do the best and the brightest work here for America.

(10:10):
Isn't Elon Musk one of those people?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I've never understood. I don't understand why. What's the downside
of an H one B visa?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I'm they're they're saying that the fact that he
went on this rant about H one B visas hastened
his demise. But isn't he in favor of them? Are
they all in favor of them? I'm very confused.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I would be I would only get there.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
There's a faction of the Trump maga people who hate
these things because they're visas in any regard.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's but I don't I don't think that's a large population.
When Vivec leaves, there is a guy, an investment firm
CEO who is an outside advisor to the Trump Government
Efficiency Commission, who said that he could fill the void
left by Vivik Ramaswan's departure, James fish Back, not to

(11:03):
be confused with doctor George fish Beck, the longtime meteorologist
here in LA. So that's what's going on. The discussion.
Also about Greenland.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yes, Trump says we need Greenland to combat Russia and China.
Also the Gulf of Mexico can he rename it, and
Canada is lashing out and prepares to retaliate upon everyone
talking about us making Canada our fifty first state, kid
Rock being the most recent one yesterday.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh boy, oh boy, guys, we're all in it together.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Remember the story of Dorothea Puente out of Sacramento. This
was a woman who was a serial killer. It's always
fascinating when it's a woman. I remember this story from
years ago. One of the first true crime deep dives
I did before true crime was so popular.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think it was because we were up there and
so Sacremento.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
She ran a boarding house for troubled youth and ended up,
I don't know, killing all of the troubled youth. Fascinating
the way she was able to get away for years
with what she was doing. We'll talk about that coming
up for True Crime Tuesday in the twelve o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
We'll also next hour dip back into our story about
your favorite weather person from Los Angeles. A lot of
votes for doctor George Fishback.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yes, the name of I had not heard before.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
He's still with us.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's a good question. If I had to guess, I
would say no, but I am not certain dead.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh died in March twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's too bad, and that was before our show started,
so we couldn't have gotten him on anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, that's pretty sad. If you think you.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Don't even know who he is. I know you've just
learned about him.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
He meant something to a lot about.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Now you're emoting, well.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I feel like I'm in touch with my feelings, except
this guy. I don't. It's funny how you guys are
just passing up to you okay, for I can barely
hear you it wasn't a Nazi salute?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What is He's mad at us that we're not bringing
it up.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
He's mad that we're not believing that it was a
Nazi salute. Watch the context of the whole thing. I
don't have to explain Elon Musk. Elon Musk being a
Nazi or not a Nazi has zero impact on me.
But but what explain to me the benefit of that.
Let's say let's say he thought to himself, I know
what I'll do in front of a crowd of thousands

(13:36):
of people in a clip that will go viral for
the rest of my life. I'll give a Nazi salute
to what end?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't know if Elon Musk thinks mouths much about
what he's gonna do, certainly not his physical motions. Do
you remember, You're but you're not gonna change anyone's mind.
If they believe he was doing a Nazi salute. That's
what they're gonna believe. Do you remember the uh interview
he did? See if I I think I have this
the interview he did.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Where he was talking about being what was it being
blackmailed over advertisements? On Twitter back in the day, and
he was saying, you're going to blackmail me with money, right,
and he said it go after yourself. Yeah, and that
was this big thing. He doesn't he doesn't think those

(14:29):
things through now. And the idea that it was a
Nazi salute is that move on as we will.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
The United States should acquire Greenland for international security. That
is what Trump reiterated yesterday, alluding to threats from Russia
and China. He was speaking to reporters in the Oval
Office as he signed those executive orders, and he says
Denmark was unable to keep Greenland, which is a self

(14:58):
ruling Danish territory. He said, Greenland is a wonderful place.
We need it for international security, and I'm sure Denmark
will come along. He said, You've got Russian boats all
over the place, You've got China's boats all over the place, warships,
and Denmark can't maintain it. So they say that we

(15:18):
should acquire Greenland. It's an absolute necessity. He refused to
rule out using military force. Remember there are no roads
in Greenland. Well, there are no roads, there are no doors.
You've got to get around by snowmobile and sled and plane.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
He doesn't take things off the table. No, that's his
negotiation construct. He doesn't take things off the table. Would
you use nuclear weapons to acquire Greenland? I'm not going
to say what I'm going to do. I'm not going
to do that ruins my negotiation status. Not only is
it geographically important, I mean physically the location of it
would be important. Greenland happens to be one of the

(15:57):
most mineral rich areas in the entire world, which would
be helpful for US.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Gulf of Mexico to become the Gulf of America.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Can he do this?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
This is the order called Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.
It's funny how the names of these things are just
so like a name. An executive order in seventh grade,
maybe not even maybe fifth grade, restoring Names that honor
American greatness.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
They also demanded that the highest peak Denale to be
reverted back to Mount McKinley, which was the name of
it prior to twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So can he change these? Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
And no?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
They say, well, yes, because you can call it whatever you.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Want exactly, but the paperwork may not be all filled
out correctly, and the papers may not exist that te's
not cross, the eyes not dotted, but you can refer
to it as whatever you want, and to that effect,
so can the rest of the world. Other countries will
probably still call it the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Claudia Shinbaum is the president of Mexico, and she responded
when this idea first came up that North America should
be renamed America, Mexicana or Mexican America, and Mexico's refusal
to use a different name doesn't do anything to our
ability or not to call it what we want to

(17:19):
call it.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Also, we only control about twelve nautical miles of the
Gulf of Mexico. They for the most part it's international waters,
not owned by any country, So there's that. So those
twelve nautical miles Gulf of America.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, and the other one of the major geographic landmarks
in that part of the world is the Rio Grand
River that we call the Rio Grand River, although it's duplicative.
They call it Rio Bravo, they being people in Mexico.
And then Canada.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Canada was booted around yesterday by kid Rock is becoming
the fifty first state of the United States. Trump is
threatened to impose twenty five percent tariffs on Canada within
two weeks, and Canada says, bring it, we will respond.
The country, they say, is working on retaliation.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
But that they would continue to work on preventing tariffs.
The Finance Minister said that Canada has prepared for any
developments until the ap None of this is surprising. We
are absolutely ready to respond to any one of these scenarios.
And it would be a mistake for the American government
to proceed with imposing tariffs in terms of the cost living,
in terms of the cost living, cost of living in

(18:40):
the United States, jobs in the United States, and security
of supply chains. This is why, this is why Trump
did this in the first place, is to get them
to come to the table and to put he fired
the first shot, so you could argue that that puts
the United States in a better negotiating position than it
does Canada.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's good, it's great. You did a bang up job.
You know, you're kind of like a great quarterback. You
don't always get a game ball because you do a
great job pretty consistently, so you don't get the accolades
of like, hey, great job, because people just expected of

(19:19):
you and you do a very good job on the
production pieces, and so I would like to give you this.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
You need to borrow money.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Game ball?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Are you doing this for?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't have a ball, but just envision me giving
you a game, like six.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Of them down the hallway by that basket.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
We got rid of our balls. I think we just
put them and we just they were deflated. I pumped
them up first.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Still there.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I think I just left the pump for their own balls.
I don't need to be doing that for you. Go
fundme is where people are going to raise money for
victims their own families after many things fire as well.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
But there's a problem. If you're going to use a
GoFundMe page to raise money for yourself, FEMA is going
to look at that GoFundMe page. I mean, I don't
know how. I don't know how actively they're going to
go looking for this kind of.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Don't they have other things to be doing?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I do.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I don't know how writing checks right.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
But in this there is a law that since twenty
twenty two, the agency cannot duplicate benefits that you get
from another source.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
This is like when you are.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Put out, shall we say, from like an airline or something.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
They they they make you stay in the airport for
two days, they cancel all the flights. It's not weather related,
it's their own screw up or what have you. And
then they offer you like a two hundred dollars voucher.
You take it, you use it, and then the lawyers
come calling and they go, hey, were you part of
that mess that where you were stuck in the airport
for two day?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And you're like, yeah, that was me.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
And they're like, well, did you accept the voucher and
they say yeah, we did. Oh, then wait, we can't
help you. That's why you never accept that kind of stuff.
You wait for if there is a legitimate legal beef.
You wait for the legitimate legal beef, and you don't
take the easy out in the voucher.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I will say this to FEMA's credit, they know this
limitation and they know that it could be a hardship
for people who are still who are trying to raise everything.
Basically they're starting over from scratch in many cases. One
video came out from State Senator Sasha rene Perez where
she explained, hey, you got to be careful with how

(21:37):
you do this. If you apply for benefits through FEMA.
Know what your GoFundMe page also says, we want to
be sure.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
That your go Fundme page is drafted in a way
that is requesting assistance for general items.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
If you have, for example, a go.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Fundme page that is focused on raising funds for a
car that you may have lost in the fire, you
cannot then utilize FEMA relief for a car that you
lost in the fire.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Now, and to their credit, FEMA has also come out
and said as much. They said that go fund me
could be a great way to cover immediate expenses, but
it's important to know using it for certain purposes could
affect your eligibility for that federal assistance. So if your
go Fundme clearly states that the funds you're raising are
going to be used to replace your car as that

(22:26):
same example, FEMA won't be able to provide assistance for
that specific need. So if you are putting up go
Fundme pages for yourself, for family members, for friends who
may have lost everything in the fire, they said you
have to be general and just say we're trying to
help Uncle Bob and Aunt Mary cover unforeseen expenses, or

(22:47):
without getting super specific about it, or say it's for
their shoelace collection. And that way, FEMA is not going
to be like, well, we can't replace shoelace collection.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
The tortoise.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
The tortoise, the tortoise that may have been displaced in
the fire.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
You got to get a new case.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Heard about the tortoise, right, There was a tortoise that
was displaced in the fires.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was one of the first stories that came out.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
No I saw last night, an awful story of a
family looking through the burned out remains of the home
for the dog that they couldn't find.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Like they.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Really stopped depicting in areas of the house, Oh God,
shelter and didn't make it up.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
TV News needs to back off, man, back off.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
We don't need to see the people out of the
assisted living senior care facility in various states of undress
being wheeled out in the flames.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
They've already lost their dignity. We don't need to give
them another dose of that. Good Lord, Good lord.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Coming up next, what are we talking about? Ooh, the
debut of the new swamp Watch. Do you think people
are gonna lose their minds? Once we get out with
the old swamp Watch. People have actually been asking for
a new swamp watch, haven't they.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, and we told them to hold your horses, drain
the swamp. We're gonna drain now.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
This is the old one.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's the old old one.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Are we gonna play the old old one and then
the old one and then the new one?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh that's exciting. What a treat, What a musical treat.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
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