January 23, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Before we get into what's happening, some of the developing
stories that we're following today, both two of them coming
from the Senate. On one hand, the Senate did confirm
John Ratcliffe to lead the CIA today. Senators confned him
seventy four to twenty five, so he's now the second
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member of the incoming national security team to be approved
by the upper chamber. Also, senators voted to end debate.
I think that's the cloture vote. They voted to end
debate for Pete Hegseth, which means they've sent him on.
It's likely going to go to a floor vote tomorrow
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in the Senate for Pete Hegseth to become the next
Secretary of Defense. And then the federal judge in Seattle
has blocked temporarily President Trump's attempt to rescind birthright citizenship
spelled out in the fourteenth fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
A bit of breaking news on the firefront the Hues
fire now twenty four percent contained. That's up ten percent
from this morning. This thing erupted into ten thousand acres
as we reported to you as it was happening yesterday
in the Castaic Lake area, prompting more than fifty thousand
different mandatory evacuations. Palisades fire seventy two percent contained at
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this rate twenty three thousand acres is what That one
ate through killed at least eleven people, and the Eaten
fire ninety five percent contained seventeen people dead, fourteen thousand
acres for that one.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What else is going on? Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Wow, it's happening is sponsored by Abner Gas water Damage,
fire damage burglary called Public Adjuster Abner GAT eight one
eight nine one seven five two five six.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
In Nashville, we know more about the school shooting suspect.
There was a seventeen year old kid who shot in
a cafeteria at Antioch High School yesterday, killing sixteen year
old Jostle and Escalante injuring a seventeen year old. A
bullet apparently grazed his arm, and then the shooter, armed
with a pistol, shot himself. The motive is not known,
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but apparently he had a whole social media history. The
Anti Defamation League said that he described himself as an
involuntary in cell self loathing in cell. In one post,
he wrote, I am a worthless of human, A living
breathing disgrace. All my real life friends outgrowmy and act
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like they don't know me. Being me was so humiliating.
That's why I spend all day dissociating.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We've talked about these fires being a generational event, the
way that wind event hit us a few weeks ago
here in southern California. Well they're calling what happened to
the Gulf Coast this week a once in a lifetime type.
Snowstorm struck from Texas to Florida, closing airports, crippling roadways,
freezing temperatures. Ten people now dead across three states as
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they tried to figure out how to deal with a
winter storm in areas where they don't have to deal
with winter storms.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Baton Rouge, Louisiana had seven point six inches of snow
wow back here in beach cities. Following the inauguration of
President Trump and has promised to carry out mass deportations
and fight against sanctuary cities. The city of Huntington Beach
has declared itself a non sanctuary city, to.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Which I say, if you didn't already know that, you
are living with your head in the sand. Huntington Beach
basically toes the Trump agenda to the tee, to the.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Tut And.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's similar to when the LA City Council came out,
was it just a couple of months ago said they
were going to reaffirm their sanctuary city status.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Whatever whatever goes on an LA City haul, it's the
opposite in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Who are you doing that for?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, a man from Wisconsin has pleaded guilty today to
reported false emergencies in places like West Covina and Knox Oxnard,
then using ring cameras at the residences to taunt responding officers.
Get a job, get a hobby, go to the depot,
build something, build a barn in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We mentioned the nominations for the Oscars coming up. Colin O'Brien,
by the way, you're going to host the oscarsh and
Cynthia Arivo nominated for Best Actress as Alphaba in Wicked.
Gives her a chance to be an Egot, Emmy, Grammy,
Oscar Tony.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Can you name anyone else?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's not really my wheelhouse? Ask me NFL stats.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I did not know that there were this many of
the awards. I would have gotten one of them. I
would have gotten probably Rita Moreno, only because it's she
completed the cycle in nineteen seventy seven. But Richard Rogers,
Helen Hayes, John Gilgood, Audrey Hepburn, Marvin Hamlish, mel Brooks.
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A lot of these people are Andrew Lloyd Webber, John Legend, Oh,
Alan Mankin, Jennifer Hudson, Viola Davis, Elton, John You know
who those people?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You could do this. You have all the gifts of theater.
I do not have all the You can act, you
can sing, you can dance. What can you not do?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I can dance. There's no dance award on there.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Theater involves dance.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, they're not winning for I mean, I guess some
of them could could. Yeah, but no, you should use
all of your gifts. Don't put a gift in the
closet and close the door on it. Halle ma uma
ooh crater of the Kilauea volcano. Apparently it is resumed eruptions.
It is the world's most active volcano in Kilauea resumed
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its latest eruption yesterday, noted just before three pm local time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It's fine, everything's fine. We're all fine. Let's just keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
They are.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They say there are significant hazards of the eruption wall instability,
ground cracking, rock falls. These hazards could be enhanced by
any earthquakes hit. You could endanger members of the public
that venture too close to the volcano within the national park.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Everything's fine. How about your Jeopardy question? Yeah, let's get
it losers for four hundred dollars. And there was no
joy in Mudville after this mighty player from a poem
struck out.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
This was like you on the last day of fantasy.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's not funny.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Still hurts.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Hey, you hit a couple doubles. You only struck out twice.
I struck out twice during an one at bat when
I played softball.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How did you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right? Our small business shout out? Will we come back?
Also still ahead this hour? Why monkeys are trying to
have sex with deer? You're not gonna want to miss that.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Good selling Right there.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We do have strange science coming your way, because it
is Thursdays, and what's Thursdays without strange science? The curious
case of the monkeys and their infatuation with the deer.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The fires, of course, continue to be a big deal.
The fire that's burning up near Castaic Lake has been
increased just very slightly from last night's numbers to two
hundred and seventy eight acres at about twenty four percent containment.
Most of those areas in and around Castaic, those neighborhoods
at least have been allowed back in all of the
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I shouldn't say all, but most of the evacuation orders
have been reduced to warnings, and some of those warnings
from even this morning have been completely taken down, so
people are allowed back in those.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Areas Wellanuary is something we've talked about a couple of times.
I'm doing dry January for the first time this year.
It actually began in twenty twelve by a British charity
and it's where it's obvious, right common sense. It speaks
for itself it's when you abstain from drinking alcohol for
the entire month of January. And it has grown in
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popularity exponentially. I think it was like three times. A
number of people are doing it now that did it
in like twenty nineteen or what have you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
It's just incredible. O.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Briona mcrenolds owns Burden of Proof, this non alcoholic bottle
shop and mark it down in the South Pasadena area.
Thanks for coming in today, Yeah, thank you for having me.
What's this little mini bar that you've already set up
over here?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Yes, so I heard that there was some dry January
support needed, so we brought a couple of our favorites
and best sellers, tried to diversify and bring something from
each category. We have a phony NEGRONI my favorite name.
We have to to shoots spears like I PA and
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Dark and I heard you guys like Fireball. So we
have a little spice with the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
How can you tell her that you're making this sound.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Like it's on the internet. I found it myself. Once
it's up, it's up. You can't hide.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Actually, our relationship with Fireball is like long documented and.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
And then a sparkling wine, sparkling white.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That will be my favorite probably. I was just reading that. Well,
there's a bunch of articles that have been coming out
all all month long about this, but in terms of
the hit the alcohol industry has been facing and how
they're kind of relying on heavy drinkers this moment because
there are so many light or casual drinkers that are
moving towards and you'll see it in bars and restaurants
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popping up too, that it's it's a thing.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's not going anywhere for a while.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
I think the top selling beer at Whole Foods is Athletic,
which is non alcoholic, and any bar or restaurant that
is not carrying non alcoholic products is so leaving money
on the table. So it's almost like you need to
get with the time.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It used to be you could go to a restaurant
and you'd find, you know, your list of beers and wines,
and there'd be one selection for a non alcoholic something,
some beer of some kind. Yeah, and now there's like
a whole everybody's got they've got the mocktails, they've got
you know, non alcoholic wine. There's three or four different
kinds of beer that you can get that are non alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I noticed this because I when I set out to
do this, I was like, I was going to stay
away from that stuff because I don't know, it's too
close to the real thing. But I went to a
couple dinners for work and I got I had water
at one, and I'm like, this isn't fun.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
This is boring.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I had tea at the other one, and I
just sat there with my tea as everyone was four
years old toddies, and I'm like, this isn't fun. So
this is perfect? Is this all looks very fun?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Awesome? Do you want to try?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We'll start with the uh feline ne Groni.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now negroni is what it is, a liqueur usually.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah, so a negroni is typically like a very dark,
strong drink. I know, my cups don't know their own strength.
They've been doing dry January. So this is actually made
in Brooklyn and this company, Saint Agrestus. Uh, they were
actually just uh alcohol distillers, and then they started experimenting
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with non alcoholic and found this formula.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's a drink that I wouldn't drink probably normally.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, it's a little strong, a little bitter.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
pH balance for a woman yet whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, one of the one of the I guess but
leafs about non alcoholic drinks is that there's a certain
there's a reaction in your mouth that takes place with alcohol,
the burn that whatever it is. If it's a it's
a spirit, if it's a beer, even wine to a
certain degree has that alcohol burn to it, which a
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lot of people crave. This has just the tiniest, tiniest
amount of it. This the phony ne gronie.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, the reason it reminds me of alcohol too is
because you're kind.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Of like, ooh, it's strong.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean that's the that's the the
feeling that you get or the reflex that you have
when you taste when you can taste the alcohol.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Yeah, this one is I'd say the bite is on
the low end. A lot of spirits because people crave that,
they'll use like ginger or pepper or vinegar to give
you that burn. So we even carry some pava products.
Cova is a plant that's been used in the South
Pacific for hundreds of years for sort of ceremonial and
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social purposes.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Actually numbs your mouth. So you're like, whoa, this is working?
Having well this in a while?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm at the dentist.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah that Yeah, okay, I've.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Had the at least the alcohol version of that fresh
squeeze I pa from to Shoot.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So okay, excellent, I have a memory of it. Go
for it.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
So most of the beers and wines are de alcoholized,
meaning that they are brude or fermented all the way through.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To having booze and then and then it's taken out.
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Its exactly like I feel like I'm cheating on dry jack.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
I mean, it's got right, it's got all the same
complexity and hops.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My husband would totally drink that and you wouldn't even know,
you would have no idea.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, right, very much. Wow.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
So the Shoots actually we did a tasting with them
earlier this week, and they have sort of a bespoke
exclusive de alcoholization process.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Everyone's got their own.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
But it might be like a vacuum system or some
sort of science that lowers the boiling point of alcohol,
so the alcohol will boil out.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because there's there's there's a new trend also towards hop waters,
which you know, they're they're more of a Seltzer version
of beer that have that kind of the hoppy taste
to it but doesn't have the alcohol in it. And
those are good too, those those tend to be pretty good.
But this, this tastes like the the Shoots fresh squeezed IPA.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, well that's good. You've tried both.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So. Burden of Proof is a bottle shop, it's a market.
It is in South Pasadena and beyond. You can catch
them really anywhere at Burden of Proof na dot com.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
This is fun.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It is a thoughtfully curated selection by the way of
non alcoholic wine, beer, spirit, something for everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
There's also private.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Events that they do for classes, parties, baby showers, whatever
you're deal.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
You work with your husband, what's that? What's that like?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
We got married last year and we started a business
last year, so we're just going all in.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It's great so far.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
We actually compliment each other really well, and we both
come from the film and video production world, and it's
kind of like, once you've done that, I think you
can do anything.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Everything else is calm by by comparison.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Really, yes, the sparkling the sparkling white is tastes exactly
like a bottle.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Is it blank, it's blanked.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It's made with chardonay grapes up in Healdsberg.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's got taste exactly the same. Those are great, that's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, I've never done that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I've never done, never done I've never had any of
those before.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's never tried that.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
We have tastings every Friday and Saturday, just totally free
because it is so important to try this. A lot
of people think, oh, oh, duels, I don't want to
take exactly, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
It's like, it's odus.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are near beer was the only comparison.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's like I was thinking, well, what's the point, you know,
But it's like there there is a point. It's to
be festive with your friends at our drinking or what
have you.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Totally it's with your lushy friends.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Well it's the ritual of having something just ahday in
your hands, right right right, make for all the difference.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Obriana McReynolds again owner of Burden of Proof. You can
check them out burden of Proof na dot com. Also
burden of Proof NA is the social media handle on
Instagram TikTok. You can find them on Facebook. Burden of Proof.
Thank you for coming in today. Nice surprise.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's so much fun playing into weird conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Af I AM six forty live everywhere on the ihard.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
All you have to do is spend a couple of
days in the algorithm on Twitter that that exposes you
to the Venezuelans. Venezuelans are storming the homes and the
Haitians are eating your dogs.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
To really get into it, the fan is so rich
old days.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Federal judge has temporarily blocked President Trump's executive order that
ends the constitutional sorry that would end the constitutional guarantee
of birthright citizenship regardless of the parents immigration status. The
District Judge John Kunauer ruled today in the case brought
by the states of Washington, Arizona, Illinois, and Oregon. This
is just one of the cases against that executive order.
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The states have argued that the Fourteenth Amendment and Supreme
Court case law have cemented birthright citizenship and really the
only way to change that would be to pass a
constitutional amendment.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Have you heard the rumors about Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yes, and I think that that's where it ends.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
While the Times of India.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Ah, the old Times of India.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Hey, it references a post on X that has gone viral.
Okay that a friend of Jennifer Aniston said everyone close
to her knows she is dating Barack Obama. He's with
Jennifer Aniston, my old friend, now, my old manager, now
a friend is connected to her inner circle. At a
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gathering with Jennifer's friends, the affair came up casually. Jennifer
herself admitted it. They were seated with a psychic, which
made it sound surreal. But it's definitely not a secret
among the closest friends. Well, sometimes girlfriends have a psychic
come in for like a girl's night, and they do readings.
And I've seen it on The Housewives a couple of times.
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Go on, why are you looking at me like I
do this? Said it like that, you said like you
have taken I.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Have done this.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
I have never done this time.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
No, my parents went to a psychic for years, and
now wrap your head around that. As a child, the
two people making decisions for you are going to a
freaking psychic.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Holy hell anyway. Yeah, apparently it's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
All about a leaked DM and this thing has picked
up some traction. Not just the Times of India, Oh no,
there are other outlets like the hind.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Times, Times becomingsoon dot net.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I've heard of comingsoon dot net India today.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Apparently India is all over. This story makes perfect sense.
Somebody was heating up chicken tika masala in the break
room earlier and now I can't stop thinking of.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Butter chicken last nime?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You did?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did It's really good?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Was it homemade?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I love some homemade buttered chicken in real Do you
have any non with it? Do you like garlic? Non?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Do you like cheese filled?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Non?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Me too?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You could you could have put anything after cheese filled,
and I probably would have.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Said, yeh.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you like the grain sauce? What kind of sauce
do you like with your non? I'm don't you just
go straight to butter?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
More butter? You just I could just dip it into
the butter sauce.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
B it's fine.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got a loaf of sourdough bread yesterday and got
into the butter.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Where to go? Where that loaf of bread go? It's
in the car. Mm hmm, you think I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The Senate has advanced the nomination of Pete Heggseth as
the Trump's Defense Secretary. This vote pushes him towards confirmation,
despite some objections from Democrats and at least a couple
of Republicans who have said that they are uneasy to
Republicans right now. Senator is Lisa Mkowski of Alaska and
Susan Collins Maine did break ranks. They have opposed Hegseth
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and said as much. But this former combat vet former
Fox News host is facing allegations of excessive drinking and
aggressive actions towards women, which he has denied. A final
confirmation vote is expected tomorrow. The Senate, meanwhile, did confirm
Trump's pick to lead the CIA. John Ratcliffe, was Director
of National Intelligence during the first term and is the
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first person who have held that position and the top
post at the CIA. Fire Wise, we're just watching what's
going on with the Hughes fire. Thankfully, conditions there have
greatly improved from where we were twenty four hours ago.
It did increase overnight a small bit. It's at ten
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two hundred and seventy eight acres around Castake Lake and
at containment is at about twenty four percent for the
most part. The evacuation areas those heavily populated neighborhoods for
the most part, are under either evacuation warnings or have
had their evacuation warnings listed. Most of the areas that
are still under evacuation orders are pretty sparsely populated.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And may I please have some storytime music to tease
our next story?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Sure? It was wait a minute, I know it kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was twenty fifteen on Japan's forested island of a
Yakushima when a mail macaq.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Jumped onto the back of a female deer. What did
the bacock then try to do.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
It's not rare, It's not the first time, and it
won't be the last.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You said, Oh, Bob, it's just kids, Steph.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Gary and Shannon will return with strange science.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I toyed with the idea of going to see that
just because I love The Lion King. You forget how
dark The Lion King is until you revisit it. And
Disney Movie but I didn't remember it being so dark.
Poor little Simba.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Before we get to strange science, another recall maybe on
the horizon for governor news.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh I heard about this?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Is this from kitson Saving California. Is this newly formed
coalition They want to serve him with official recall papers
citing our rising taxes, cost of living, ineffective emergency responses,
population decline.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Randy Economy is the group's founder.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Okay, we know him.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
This would be the eighth attempt to recall Governor Nusom sins.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's usually involved with all of them. I think, all right,
it is time for strange science.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Sence. It's like weird science, but strange.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Well, you've been.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Talking about this all day, and I can understand why
it would stick in your cra there. It's odd when
you think about monkeys and deer having sexy times together.
Or maybe it's not sexy, maybe it's just for survival.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So you were talking this story on the island of Yakushima,
male macock monkey jumped onto the back of a female
seek a deer and tried to make one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Now it's important to understand the social status of the
macock the macaw. What kind of low ranking status, which
they believed maybe driving the unusual behavior, like maybe the
male macoq.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is not.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Man enough or monkey enough.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Monkey enough to hook up with the female maccox because
they are put on a pedestal, so they went to
the lesser thought of species when it comes to the
macawk world of the deer, and it's like, ah, well,
I'm not gonna be able to hook up with a
female maccoq, so I'm going to hook up with this.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Dough right here. Okay, that's fine. But in twenty eighteen
it happened again, but the roles were reversed. Five female
maccoqs were riding and rubbing male deer.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I could do without you saying the phrase riding and
rubbing male deer.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I know it says that right here in the article.
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So this is a totally new area that you speak
up as well. This was near Osaka, which is like
three hundred and seventy miles away from Yakushima across the
Pacific Ocean. So it's not like one monkey saw this
other macoque bone in the deer and was like, hey,
I heard we can get with deer.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Now let's go it's go on a.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Deer hunt, and the five chicks, the five female maccocks,
are like, let's go find us some deer and if
the question I see it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Happen question technical, Yeah, you said that he was bring.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Isn't an attempted I mean, just just to clarify feel
it feels like there should be like did the deed
get done?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah? I don't think it is. I think this guy. Listen,
this same.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Mighty nose is also done. You know the sex organs
of deer Nora.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Maccox pretty similar to there's a other mammal and a
place for it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Right, Okay, that's an interesting way to put it. Well,
I'm trying to keep it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Have a children lot be twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
twenty twenty three. They saw these same deer mounting behavior
and they believe it's the same monkey each time. They
said that this one based on his almond shaped eyes,
although they can't be absolutely certain. They haven't tagged him
or spray painted him.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
He's in a deer.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You had that one friend that was into something different, right.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Dave, Dave, Dave, do you know anything about Dave?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Dave's always into different.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now the male has ascended to a dominant rank, the
females around him might be doing it too. And that said,
the behavior is changing over time. Maybe the first time
he did it was because of frustration. So for one specific.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Purpose liking a blonde versus a brunette. Right, maybe this
month is absolutely just like deer and not into other monkeys.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But you're saying that.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I don't think you should.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't think that you should have to stick to
your species if you're a monkey, like maybe you don't
find the macocks attractive. So maybe that monkey looks in
the mirror and it's not like uh, maybe he sees
a deer and he's like peaceful regal.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
This is not just I mean, this is this is
a new level for the relationship between the deer and
the monkeys on this island. Because they said the deer
often follow monkeys around, they eat food that they drop
out of the trees, and they nibble on monkey feces.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Interesting, maybe that's where I go, and.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then the monkeys will munch on the ticks and other
parasites that they groom from the deer.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So could it be a territorial thing where the Macoque
sees the deer in its feces and other things, and
it's like, stay away from my stuff, and so you
like attacks the deer at tax him.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well that's what no. I think it's more of they
have learned to coexists. They have this symbiotic relationship. And
then whatever happened, Like it used to be that the
deer would pick something up that the monkey dropped out
of the tree, and then it became the monkey grabs
a tick off the deer and eat it, and then
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it just kind of escalates whatever The next behavior up
on the thing is.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Can I get to the love portion of the event?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I don't know if there is such a thing, but
go on.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
There is because listen to this most of the time.
This is according to a paper published in the journal Primates.
It's a very good journal. It's the best, the best
of all the Primates journals. Most of the accounts are
involving a monkey that seems to just jump up onto
the deer's back and rest and sleep.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They just wanted to cuddle.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
They just want to cuddle. They just want the warmth,
the bodily contact. That's the thing, guys. It's not just
about the sex. It's about the sleeping and the cuddling
between the deer.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
How many times do have to tell that to women?
Sometimes it's just about they just want someone to hold
on to. I think that's true. It's not true. Maybe
maybe strong way to end. Well, thanks for ruining love.
If you listen any part of our Monkey Deer Love stories,
(29:03):
you can always go back and listen on the podcast.
Just go to kfiam six forty dot com slash Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Keep in mind, most of the time the deer and
the maccocks were seen together, they were just chilling.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
They were just snapping and cuddling.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
One guy took it too far. He's got to ruin
it for everybody.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We were talking to someone earlier about how long we've
been doing this show, and you said, we're coming up
on nine years.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
No, we are in nine years, okay whatever, this is
our tenth year.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Anyway, and then we do segments like that and you
wonder why, and I wonder why.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well, we'll see what the future holds, won't.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Wait, John, This is all John's fault.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
John Cobelt Show's coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow.
Stay drive everybody blessings. You've been listening to The Gary
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Before we get into what's happening, some of the developing
stories that we're following today, both two of them coming
from the Senate. On one hand, the Senate did confirm
John Ratcliffe to lead the CIA today. Senators confned him
seventy four to twenty five, so he's now the second
(00:29):
member of the incoming national security team to be approved
by the upper chamber. Also, senators voted to end debate.
I think that's the cloture vote. They voted to end
debate for Pete Hegseth, which means they've sent him on.
It's likely going to go to a floor vote tomorrow
(00:49):
in the Senate for Pete Hegseth to become the next
Secretary of Defense. And then the federal judge in Seattle
has blocked temporarily President Trump's attempt to rescind birthright citizenship
spelled out in the fourteenth fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
A bit of breaking news on the firefront the Hues
fire now twenty four percent contained. That's up ten percent
from this morning. This thing erupted into ten thousand acres
as we reported to you as it was happening yesterday
in the Castaic Lake area, prompting more than fifty thousand
different mandatory evacuations. Palisades fire seventy two percent contained at
(01:26):
this rate twenty three thousand acres is what That one
ate through killed at least eleven people, and the Eaten
fire ninety five percent contained seventeen people dead, fourteen thousand
acres for that one.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What else is going on? Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
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fire damage burglary called Public Adjuster Abner GAT eight one
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
In Nashville, we know more about the school shooting suspect.
There was a seventeen year old kid who shot in
a cafeteria at Antioch High School yesterday, killing sixteen year
old Jostle and Escalante injuring a seventeen year old. A
bullet apparently grazed his arm, and then the shooter, armed
with a pistol, shot himself. The motive is not known,
(02:20):
but apparently he had a whole social media history. The
Anti Defamation League said that he described himself as an
involuntary in cell self loathing in cell. In one post,
he wrote, I am a worthless of human, A living
breathing disgrace. All my real life friends outgrowmy and act
(02:42):
like they don't know me. Being me was so humiliating.
That's why I spend all day dissociating.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We've talked about these fires being a generational event, the
way that wind event hit us a few weeks ago
here in southern California. Well they're calling what happened to
the Gulf Coast this week a once in a lifetime type.
Snowstorm struck from Texas to Florida, closing airports, crippling roadways,
freezing temperatures. Ten people now dead across three states as
(03:12):
they tried to figure out how to deal with a
winter storm in areas where they don't have to deal
with winter storms.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Baton Rouge, Louisiana had seven point six inches of snow
wow back here in beach cities. Following the inauguration of
President Trump and has promised to carry out mass deportations
and fight against sanctuary cities. The city of Huntington Beach
has declared itself a non sanctuary city, to.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Which I say, if you didn't already know that, you
are living with your head in the sand. Huntington Beach
basically toes the Trump agenda to the tee, to the.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Tut And.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's similar to when the LA City Council came out,
was it just a couple of months ago said they
were going to reaffirm their sanctuary city status.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Whatever whatever goes on an LA City haul, it's the
opposite in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Who are you doing that for?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, a man from Wisconsin has pleaded guilty today to
reported false emergencies in places like West Covina and Knox Oxnard,
then using ring cameras at the residences to taunt responding officers.
Get a job, get a hobby, go to the depot,
build something, build a barn in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We mentioned the nominations for the Oscars coming up. Colin O'Brien,
by the way, you're going to host the oscarsh and
Cynthia Arivo nominated for Best Actress as Alphaba in Wicked.
Gives her a chance to be an Egot, Emmy, Grammy,
Oscar Tony.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Can you name anyone else?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's not really my wheelhouse? Ask me NFL stats.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I did not know that there were this many of
the awards. I would have gotten one of them. I
would have gotten probably Rita Moreno, only because it's she
completed the cycle in nineteen seventy seven. But Richard Rogers,
Helen Hayes, John Gilgood, Audrey Hepburn, Marvin Hamlish, mel Brooks.
(05:18):
A lot of these people are Andrew Lloyd Webber, John Legend, Oh,
Alan Mankin, Jennifer Hudson, Viola Davis, Elton, John You know
who those people?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You could do this. You have all the gifts of theater.
I do not have all the You can act, you
can sing, you can dance. What can you not do?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I can dance. There's no dance award on there.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Theater involves dance.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, they're not winning for I mean, I guess some
of them could could. Yeah, but no, you should use
all of your gifts. Don't put a gift in the
closet and close the door on it. Halle ma uma
ooh crater of the Kilauea volcano. Apparently it is resumed eruptions.
It is the world's most active volcano in Kilauea resumed
(06:04):
its latest eruption yesterday, noted just before three pm local time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It's fine, everything's fine. We're all fine. Let's just keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
They are.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They say there are significant hazards of the eruption wall instability,
ground cracking, rock falls. These hazards could be enhanced by
any earthquakes hit. You could endanger members of the public
that venture too close to the volcano within the national park.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Everything's fine. How about your Jeopardy question? Yeah, let's get
it losers for four hundred dollars. And there was no
joy in Mudville after this mighty player from a poem
struck out.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
This was like you on the last day of fantasy.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's not funny.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Still hurts.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Hey, you hit a couple doubles. You only struck out twice.
I struck out twice during an one at bat when
I played softball.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
How did you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right? Our small business shout out? Will we come back?
Also still ahead this hour? Why monkeys are trying to
have sex with deer? You're not gonna want to miss that.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Good selling Right there.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We do have strange science coming your way, because it
is Thursdays, and what's Thursdays without strange science? The curious
case of the monkeys and their infatuation with the deer.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
The fires, of course, continue to be a big deal.
The fire that's burning up near Castaic Lake has been
increased just very slightly from last night's numbers to two
hundred and seventy eight acres at about twenty four percent containment.
Most of those areas in and around Castaic, those neighborhoods
at least have been allowed back in all of the
(07:47):
I shouldn't say all, but most of the evacuation orders
have been reduced to warnings, and some of those warnings
from even this morning have been completely taken down, so
people are allowed back in those.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Areas Wellanuary is something we've talked about a couple of times.
I'm doing dry January for the first time this year.
It actually began in twenty twelve by a British charity
and it's where it's obvious, right common sense. It speaks
for itself it's when you abstain from drinking alcohol for
the entire month of January. And it has grown in
(08:21):
popularity exponentially. I think it was like three times. A
number of people are doing it now that did it
in like twenty nineteen or what have you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
It's just incredible. O.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Briona mcrenolds owns Burden of Proof, this non alcoholic bottle
shop and mark it down in the South Pasadena area.
Thanks for coming in today, Yeah, thank you for having me.
What's this little mini bar that you've already set up
over here?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Yes, so I heard that there was some dry January
support needed, so we brought a couple of our favorites
and best sellers, tried to diversify and bring something from
each category. We have a phony NEGRONI my favorite name.
We have to to shoots spears like I PA and
(09:05):
Dark and I heard you guys like Fireball. So we
have a little spice with the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
How can you tell her that you're making this sound.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Like it's on the internet. I found it myself. Once
it's up, it's up. You can't hide.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Actually, our relationship with Fireball is like long documented and.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 8 (09:32):
And then a sparkling wine, sparkling white.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That will be my favorite probably. I was just reading that. Well,
there's a bunch of articles that have been coming out
all all month long about this, but in terms of
the hit the alcohol industry has been facing and how
they're kind of relying on heavy drinkers this moment because
there are so many light or casual drinkers that are
moving towards and you'll see it in bars and restaurants
(09:57):
popping up too, that it's it's a thing.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's not going anywhere for a while.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
I think the top selling beer at Whole Foods is Athletic,
which is non alcoholic, and any bar or restaurant that
is not carrying non alcoholic products is so leaving money
on the table. So it's almost like you need to
get with the time.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It used to be you could go to a restaurant
and you'd find, you know, your list of beers and wines,
and there'd be one selection for a non alcoholic something,
some beer of some kind. Yeah, and now there's like
a whole everybody's got they've got the mocktails, they've got
you know, non alcoholic wine. There's three or four different
kinds of beer that you can get that are non alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I noticed this because I when I set out to
do this, I was like, I was going to stay
away from that stuff because I don't know, it's too
close to the real thing. But I went to a
couple dinners for work and I got I had water
at one, and I'm like, this isn't fun.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
This is boring.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I had tea at the other one, and I
just sat there with my tea as everyone was four
years old toddies, and I'm like, this isn't fun. So
this is perfect? Is this all looks very fun?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Awesome? Do you want to try?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We'll start with the uh feline ne Groni.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now negroni is what it is, a liqueur usually.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah, so a negroni is typically like a very dark,
strong drink. I know, my cups don't know their own strength.
They've been doing dry January. So this is actually made
in Brooklyn and this company, Saint Agrestus. Uh, they were
actually just uh alcohol distillers, and then they started experimenting
(11:41):
with non alcoholic and found this formula.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's a drink that I wouldn't drink probably normally.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, it's a little strong, a little bitter.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
pH balance for a woman yet whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, one of the one of the I guess but
leafs about non alcoholic drinks is that there's a certain
there's a reaction in your mouth that takes place with alcohol,
the burn that whatever it is. If it's a it's
a spirit, if it's a beer, even wine to a
certain degree has that alcohol burn to it, which a
(12:15):
lot of people crave. This has just the tiniest, tiniest
amount of it. This the phony ne gronie.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, the reason it reminds me of alcohol too is
because you're kind.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Of like, ooh, it's strong.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean that's the that's the the
feeling that you get or the reflex that you have
when you taste when you can taste the alcohol.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Yeah, this one is I'd say the bite is on
the low end. A lot of spirits because people crave that,
they'll use like ginger or pepper or vinegar to give
you that burn. So we even carry some pava products.
Cova is a plant that's been used in the South
Pacific for hundreds of years for sort of ceremonial and
(12:54):
social purposes.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Actually numbs your mouth. So you're like, whoa, this is working?
Having well this in a while?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, I'm at the dentist.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah that Yeah, okay, I've.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Had the at least the alcohol version of that fresh
squeeze I pa from to Shoot.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So okay, excellent, I have a memory of it. Go
for it.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
So most of the beers and wines are de alcoholized,
meaning that they are brude or fermented all the way through.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To having booze and then and then it's taken out.
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Its exactly like I feel like I'm cheating on dry jack.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
I mean, it's got right, it's got all the same
complexity and hops.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My husband would totally drink that and you wouldn't even know,
you would have no idea.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, right, very much. Wow.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
So the Shoots actually we did a tasting with them
earlier this week, and they have sort of a bespoke
exclusive de alcoholization process.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Everyone's got their own.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
But it might be like a vacuum system or some
sort of science that lowers the boiling point of alcohol,
so the alcohol will boil out.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because there's there's there's a new trend also towards hop waters,
which you know, they're they're more of a Seltzer version
of beer that have that kind of the hoppy taste
to it but doesn't have the alcohol in it. And
those are good too, those those tend to be pretty good.
But this, this tastes like the the Shoots fresh squeezed IPA.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, well that's good. You've tried both.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So. Burden of Proof is a bottle shop, it's a market.
It is in South Pasadena and beyond. You can catch
them really anywhere at Burden of Proof na dot com.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
This is fun.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It is a thoughtfully curated selection by the way of
non alcoholic wine, beer, spirit, something for everybody.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
There's also private.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Events that they do for classes, parties, baby showers, whatever
you're deal.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
You work with your husband, what's that? What's that like?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
We got married last year and we started a business
last year, so we're just going all in.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It's great so far.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
We actually compliment each other really well, and we both
come from the film and video production world, and it's
kind of like, once you've done that, I think you
can do anything.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Everything else is calm by by comparison.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Really, yes, the sparkling the sparkling white is tastes exactly
like a bottle.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Is it blank, it's blanked.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
It's made with chardonay grapes up in Healdsberg.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's got taste exactly the same. Those are great, that's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, I've never done that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I've never done, never done I've never had any of
those before.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's never tried that.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
We have tastings every Friday and Saturday, just totally free
because it is so important to try this. A lot
of people think, oh, oh, duels, I don't want to
take exactly, that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
It's like, it's odus.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Are near beer was the only comparison.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's like I was thinking, well, what's the point, you know,
But it's like there there is a point. It's to
be festive with your friends at our drinking or what
have you.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Totally it's with your lushy friends.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
Well it's the ritual of having something just ahday in
your hands, right right right, make for all the difference.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Obriana McReynolds again owner of Burden of Proof. You can
check them out burden of Proof na dot com. Also
burden of Proof NA is the social media handle on
Instagram TikTok. You can find them on Facebook. Burden of Proof.
Thank you for coming in today. Nice surprise.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's so much fun playing into weird conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Af I AM six forty live everywhere on the ihard.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
All you have to do is spend a couple of
days in the algorithm on Twitter that that exposes you
to the Venezuelans. Venezuelans are storming the homes and the
Haitians are eating your dogs.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
To really get into it, the fan is so rich
old days.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Federal judge has temporarily blocked President Trump's executive order that
ends the constitutional sorry that would end the constitutional guarantee
of birthright citizenship regardless of the parents immigration status. The
District Judge John Kunauer ruled today in the case brought
by the states of Washington, Arizona, Illinois, and Oregon. This
is just one of the cases against that executive order.
(17:24):
The states have argued that the Fourteenth Amendment and Supreme
Court case law have cemented birthright citizenship and really the
only way to change that would be to pass a
constitutional amendment.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Have you heard the rumors about Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yes, and I think that that's where it ends.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
While the Times of India.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Ah, the old Times of India.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Hey, it references a post on X that has gone viral.
Okay that a friend of Jennifer Aniston said everyone close
to her knows she is dating Barack Obama. He's with
Jennifer Aniston, my old friend, now, my old manager, now
a friend is connected to her inner circle. At a
(18:13):
gathering with Jennifer's friends, the affair came up casually. Jennifer
herself admitted it. They were seated with a psychic, which
made it sound surreal. But it's definitely not a secret
among the closest friends. Well, sometimes girlfriends have a psychic
come in for like a girl's night, and they do readings.
And I've seen it on The Housewives a couple of times.
(18:34):
Go on, why are you looking at me like I
do this? Said it like that, you said like you
have taken I.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Have done this.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
I have never done this time.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
No, my parents went to a psychic for years, and
now wrap your head around that. As a child, the
two people making decisions for you are going to a
freaking psychic.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Holy hell anyway. Yeah, apparently it's.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
All about a leaked DM and this thing has picked
up some traction. Not just the Times of India, Oh no,
there are other outlets like the hind.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Times, Times becomingsoon dot net.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I've heard of comingsoon dot net India today.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Apparently India is all over. This story makes perfect sense.
Somebody was heating up chicken tika masala in the break
room earlier and now I can't stop thinking of.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Butter chicken last nime?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You did?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did It's really good?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Was it homemade?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I love some homemade buttered chicken in real Do you
have any non with it? Do you like garlic? Non?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Do you like cheese filled?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Non?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Me too?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You could you could have put anything after cheese filled,
and I probably would have.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Said, yeh.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you like the grain sauce? What kind of sauce
do you like with your non? I'm don't you just
go straight to butter?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
More butter? You just I could just dip it into
the butter sauce.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
B it's fine.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got a loaf of sourdough bread yesterday and got
into the butter.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Where to go? Where that loaf of bread go? It's
in the car. Mm hmm, you think I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The Senate has advanced the nomination of Pete Heggseth as
the Trump's Defense Secretary. This vote pushes him towards confirmation,
despite some objections from Democrats and at least a couple
of Republicans who have said that they are uneasy to
Republicans right now. Senator is Lisa Mkowski of Alaska and
Susan Collins Maine did break ranks. They have opposed Hegseth
(20:33):
and said as much. But this former combat vet former
Fox News host is facing allegations of excessive drinking and
aggressive actions towards women, which he has denied. A final
confirmation vote is expected tomorrow. The Senate, meanwhile, did confirm
Trump's pick to lead the CIA. John Ratcliffe, was Director
of National Intelligence during the first term and is the
(20:56):
first person who have held that position and the top
post at the CIA. Fire Wise, we're just watching what's
going on with the Hughes fire. Thankfully, conditions there have
greatly improved from where we were twenty four hours ago.
It did increase overnight a small bit. It's at ten
(21:16):
two hundred and seventy eight acres around Castake Lake and
at containment is at about twenty four percent for the
most part. The evacuation areas those heavily populated neighborhoods for
the most part, are under either evacuation warnings or have
had their evacuation warnings listed. Most of the areas that
are still under evacuation orders are pretty sparsely populated.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And may I please have some storytime music to tease
our next story?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Sure? It was wait a minute, I know it kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was twenty fifteen on Japan's forested island of a
Yakushima when a mail macaq.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Jumped onto the back of a female deer. What did
the bacock then try to do.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
It's not rare, It's not the first time, and it
won't be the last.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You said, Oh, Bob, it's just kids, Steph.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Gary and Shannon will return with strange science.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I toyed with the idea of going to see that
just because I love The Lion King. You forget how
dark The Lion King is until you revisit it. And
Disney Movie but I didn't remember it being so dark.
Poor little Simba.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Before we get to strange science, another recall maybe on
the horizon for governor news.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh I heard about this?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Is this from kitson Saving California. Is this newly formed
coalition They want to serve him with official recall papers
citing our rising taxes, cost of living, ineffective emergency responses,
population decline.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Randy Economy is the group's founder.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Okay, we know him.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
This would be the eighth attempt to recall Governor Nusom sins.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's usually involved with all of them. I think, all right,
it is time for strange science.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Sence. It's like weird science, but strange.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Well, you've been.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Talking about this all day, and I can understand why
it would stick in your cra there. It's odd when
you think about monkeys and deer having sexy times together.
Or maybe it's not sexy, maybe it's just for survival.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So you were talking this story on the island of Yakushima,
male macock monkey jumped onto the back of a female
seek a deer and tried to make one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Now it's important to understand the social status of the
macock the macaw. What kind of low ranking status, which
they believed maybe driving the unusual behavior, like maybe the
male macoq.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Is not.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Man enough or monkey enough.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Monkey enough to hook up with the female maccox because
they are put on a pedestal, so they went to
the lesser thought of species when it comes to the
macawk world of the deer, and it's like, ah, well,
I'm not gonna be able to hook up with a
female maccoq, so I'm going to hook up with this.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Dough right here. Okay, that's fine. But in twenty eighteen
it happened again, but the roles were reversed. Five female
maccoqs were riding and rubbing male deer.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I could do without you saying the phrase riding and
rubbing male deer.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I know it says that right here in the article.
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So this is a totally new area that you speak
up as well. This was near Osaka, which is like
three hundred and seventy miles away from Yakushima across the
Pacific Ocean. So it's not like one monkey saw this
other macoque bone in the deer and was like, hey,
I heard we can get with deer.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Now let's go it's go on a.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Deer hunt, and the five chicks, the five female maccocks,
are like, let's go find us some deer and if
the question I see it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Happen question technical, Yeah, you said that he was bring.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Isn't an attempted I mean, just just to clarify feel
it feels like there should be like did the deed
get done?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah? I don't think it is. I think this guy. Listen,
this same.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Mighty nose is also done. You know the sex organs
of deer Nora.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Maccox pretty similar to there's a other mammal and a
place for it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Right, Okay, that's an interesting way to put it. Well,
I'm trying to keep it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Have a children lot be twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
twenty twenty three. They saw these same deer mounting behavior
and they believe it's the same monkey each time. They
said that this one based on his almond shaped eyes,
although they can't be absolutely certain. They haven't tagged him
or spray painted him.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
He's in a deer.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
You had that one friend that was into something different, right.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Dave, Dave, Dave, do you know anything about Dave?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Dave's always into different.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now the male has ascended to a dominant rank, the
females around him might be doing it too. And that said,
the behavior is changing over time. Maybe the first time
he did it was because of frustration. So for one specific.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Purpose liking a blonde versus a brunette. Right, maybe this
month is absolutely just like deer and not into other monkeys.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But you're saying that.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I don't think you should.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't think that you should have to stick to
your species if you're a monkey, like maybe you don't
find the macocks attractive. So maybe that monkey looks in
the mirror and it's not like uh, maybe he sees
a deer and he's like peaceful regal.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
This is not just I mean, this is this is
a new level for the relationship between the deer and
the monkeys on this island. Because they said the deer
often follow monkeys around, they eat food that they drop
out of the trees, and they nibble on monkey feces.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Interesting, maybe that's where I go, and.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then the monkeys will munch on the ticks and other
parasites that they groom from the deer.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So could it be a territorial thing where the Macoque
sees the deer in its feces and other things, and
it's like, stay away from my stuff, and so you
like attacks the deer at tax him.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well that's what no. I think it's more of they
have learned to coexists. They have this symbiotic relationship. And
then whatever happened, Like it used to be that the
deer would pick something up that the monkey dropped out
of the tree, and then it became the monkey grabs
a tick off the deer and eat it, and then
(28:01):
it just kind of escalates whatever The next behavior up
on the thing is.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Can I get to the love portion of the event?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I don't know if there is such a thing, but
go on.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
There is because listen to this most of the time.
This is according to a paper published in the journal Primates.
It's a very good journal. It's the best, the best
of all the Primates journals. Most of the accounts are
involving a monkey that seems to just jump up onto
the deer's back and rest and sleep.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They just wanted to cuddle.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
They just want to cuddle. They just want the warmth,
the bodily contact. That's the thing, guys. It's not just
about the sex. It's about the sleeping and the cuddling
between the deer.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
How many times do have to tell that to women?
Sometimes it's just about they just want someone to hold
on to. I think that's true. It's not true. Maybe
maybe strong way to end. Well, thanks for ruining love.
If you listen any part of our Monkey Deer Love stories,
(29:03):
you can always go back and listen on the podcast.
Just go to kfiam six forty dot com slash Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Keep in mind, most of the time the deer and
the maccocks were seen together, they were just chilling.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
They were just snapping and cuddling.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
One guy took it too far. He's got to ruin
it for everybody.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
We were talking to someone earlier about how long we've
been doing this show, and you said, we're coming up
on nine years.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
No, we are in nine years, okay whatever, this is
our tenth year.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Anyway, and then we do segments like that and you
wonder why, and I wonder why.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well, we'll see what the future holds, won't.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Wait, John, This is all John's fault.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
John Cobelt Show's coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow.
Stay drive everybody blessings. You've been listening to The Gary
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