January 30, 2025 • 26 mins
Shannon is out today with a dental emergency, so Gary hosts the show solo. Gary begins the second hour of the show with the news of the investigation on what caused the Palisades and Eaton Fires. Gary also has a GaSWellness segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Big story today, of course, is
this plane crash. The collision between an American Airlines regional
jet on its way in from Wichita, Kansas, that colliding
with an Army helicopter over the Potomac River just just next.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
To Reaga National Airport last night.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Air traffic controllers had warned the helicopter it was on
course to collide with the jet. This helicopter then hit
the bombardier plane operated by an American Airlines subsidiarias approaching
for landing at Reaga National. There was a fireball explosion
that was visible. Many different videos have shown this already,
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and I wouldn't be surprised if we see many, many more,
just based on the fact that there are so many
cameras in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And the surrounding area.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
After this explosion, both of the aircraft landed into the
Potomac River. You hear on some of the air traffic
control tapes gasps in the background. People who had witnessed
this thing firsthand from the tower confirmation hearings continue today.
RFK Junior goes from the Finance Committee in the Senate
(01:14):
to today's Help Committee.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Health is one of the things. Cash Ptel nominated to
take over.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The FBI, goes before the Judiciary Committee, and Tulci Gabbard
has been answering questions about Basha Assad, about Edward Snowden.
She is before the Intelligence Committee. All of that continues
to go on in DC today. We'll talk a little
bit more about a DC issue. At the top of
the hour, we get into Swamp Watch, and that will
(01:40):
include President Trump's plan to use GITMO as a place
to hold illegal alien criminals who were taken out of
the country. So back here at home, the fire cleanup continues,
and as we get through what will be some very
very difficult months and probably a couple of years of
clean up and rebuild. We got to figure out what
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caused these fires in the first place. And there are
two very different tracks for the two largest fires that
we're talking about, the Eton Fire over in Altadena and
the Palisades Fire over Pacific Palisades. The more information that
comes out about the Eton fire, the more it looks
like this was power lines that caused this massive and
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incredibly destructive, deadly fire. In fact, sorry, The New York
Times has an article today that talks with Whisker Labs,
Bob Marshall's co founder, a chief executive of Whisker Labs.
Whisker Labs has a bunch of censors that are installed
in homes around the country measuring abnormal activity on the
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electrical grid. And he describes something Bob Marshall does. He
described something that happened the night of January seventh, when
the Eton fire started, that I've never heard described before.
Moments before the fire actually erupted near transmission towers up
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in the hills above Altadena, some high voltage power lines
faulted in that area. About three seconds after that fault,
another major fault registered right near Altadena. And in fact,
this is the part that I've never heard before. The
two electrical disruptions along those transmission lines were so powerful
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that they reverberated as far away as Oregon and Utah.
And again they could tell because Whisker Labs has a
bunch of these sensors installed in people's homes around the country.
And even Bob Marshall, who does this for a living, says,
we looked at this one, and it was Holy cow.
This is a transmission scale event. Anytime something happens on
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the grid and we see a fault at exactly the
same time on many many sensors, than it is a
fault on the utility grid. Those faults occurred at six
ten PM and six eleven PM. Remember earlier, a few
days ago, one of the law firms had put out
surveillance video that appeared to show flashes.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
In the vicinity of those transmission lines that would coincide.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The flashes on the video would coincide with the timing
of the faults that were detected by Whisker Labs. The
data from Whisker Labs is at this point coincidental. There's
no way to prove that what they saw on their
electrical sensors started that fire in the hills above Altadena,
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but when you have that much evidence that points to
that location at that time, it's hard to not draw
that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You combine all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
With the eyewitness accounts, the people who saw this firsthand
cell phone video of the fire that's shown up between
beneath a set of three of those towers, those big
lat steel lattice towers. The flashes at the gas station
the transmission line owned by so Cal Edison. Edison at
this point has not conceded that its equipment caused the
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eaton FI. Of course they haven't. They're not going to
come out until they're forced to come out and say so.
But they do say that they are conducting their own investigation,
and Edison, to its credit, has agreed to meet with
Whisker Labs about the data as part of its review.
Could take months for them to figure this out, but
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once again, even more evidence that those flashes in the
hills above Altadena just after six o'clock on January seventh
were probably power lines going down or arcing, sparking and
then starting the fire beneath them. Now, the Palisades fire
is very different story. It was windy that day, was
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earlier in the day January seventh, and we were on
the air when it happened. But two leading theories have
come out about exactly what happened. One of the things
I said the day that the Palisades fire started was
that it reminded me of the fire in the Oakland
Hills back in nineteen ninety one, and one of those
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theories tracks with that description. Of what happened in the
Oakland Hills. Shannon's out today's getting her teeth fixed. Don't
worry about it a little. Some dentist was able to
finally fit her in so she can get her tooth fixed,
so she can come back all better tomorrow. Another rain
event coming to southern California. National Weather Service forecasting a
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minor to moderate rain event in La in Ventura Counties
next week from Tuesday through Thursday. Quarter of an inch
to an inch expected Tuesday through Thursday.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Rainfall could be.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A little higher in the mountains and the hills, potentially
totaling one to two inches. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean
an then to fire season, but it does mean that
there is some relief. And I mentioned we're talking last
segment about the investigation into what caused the Eaten fire
in the hills above Altadena. It started on January seventh,
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and it looks more and more like it was power
lines that may have faulted come down something in the
hills above Altadena that eventually that fire was pushed down
by the winds into the neighborhoods there. As for the
Palisades fire, there's an interesting problem with the investigation into
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what started the Palisades fire. It started also January seventh,
but it was at about ten fifteen in the morning,
and that was just a short time before we were
notified about it, right about ten thirty people driving along Pcight.
Somebody had actually called us and left us a talkback
message that said that they could see smoke coming from
the hills above the Palisades, and that started obviously what
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became a couple of weeks of waldewall coverage here on
KFI about both of those fires. Well, for the last
couple of weeks, a team of investigators from the US
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives has been
working out of command post in the neighborhood of Pacific
Palisades and that Highlands neighborhood, and there is a pretty
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popular hiking trail, the Skull Rock trailhead, where they believe
that the fire started. And there's only two real good
theories right now about what started the fire. The first
one is it's human caused, somebody cigarette fireworks something like that.
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January seventh, the morning of extremely windy the fire starts
and gets out of control. The other one, the other
theory that they're looking at is that somehow an almost
weak old fire that actually started on January first was
able to reignite. And I know that sounds weird, but
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the LA Fire Department was called into that area, the
hillside above Pacific Palisades on January first. This would have
been seventeen minutes after midnight January first, and a home
about two blocks away from that Skull Rock trailhead was
the homeowner, I should say about two blocks away was
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the one who first called the fire in said that
they could see the flames and smell the smoke, and
at this point somebody, an investigator, an anonymous investigator has
told the La Times that they believe that that fire,
that January first fire, was sparked by fireworks. Initially, I've
seen this unfortunately before. But initially they could not put
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helicopters in the air because of the wind. But at
about one four in the morning, they started doing an
aerial attack support a cruise on the ground. TV cameras
were there caught the whole thing just about three point thirty,
so about three hours, three plus hours after the fire
was first reported. They said that they had stopped the
forward progress of the fire Now, what happens then, is
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they don't just pack up and leave, Even on a
fire that's that small, relatively small, they don't just pack up.
A little over an hour after the forward progress is stopped.
Lapd says they completed the hose line around the perimeter.
Some of the firefighters stayed there for thirty six hours.
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Someone was on scene for thirty six hours after that
fire was considered stopped. And in fact, they do a
cold trailing operation there. Crews literally feel for any heat
that might be lingering along the edge of the fire.
They'll dig out any hotspot that they find. They trenched
the live edges make sure that nothing flares up. The
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idea then that the January seventh fire was somehow a
remnant of that New Year's Day fire is pretty far fetched,
but it is possible. The LA Fire Department has not
yet said whether or not they did any sort of
thermal imaging of the area after that New Year's Day
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fire to make sure that there were no hotspots. A
lot of times, agencies like that do use thermal imaging
during fires after fires to find the hotspots when there's
no visible light or in conditions when it's a heavy
smog or mist or something like that. And the idea
that this fire, somehow, the Palisades fire, was a remnant
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of that New Year's Day fire is slim. The chances
of it are very slim, but it is still a possibility,
and that's one of the things that they're looking at.
ATF says they want to have a report on the
cause of the Palisades fire sometime within the next sixty days.
That would be considerably faster than the massive fire that
burned on the island of Maui from twenty twenty three
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that took about a year. And it may depend on
whether or not they need to have more tests back
at the fire lab that the ATF has in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And the other thing is this is.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's hard for them to a find the source of ignition.
Where did this thing actually start? Where was the one
point on those hills in the above the Palisades where
this thing actually started, and is it within the fire
perimeter of that New Year's Day fire? That maybe there
was something that continued to smolder for seven days and
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then the high winds that we saw on the morning
of January seventh blew this thing into a fire. But
I mentioned the Oakland Hills fire. It is possible for
a fire like that to rekindle after several days, maybe
even months. The Oakland Hills Fire ninety one destroyed twenty
five hundred different structures. It came a few days after
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there was a small six acre fire in that same area.
Firefighters did have engines there. They weren't constantly looking at
that six acre fire that they had put out, or
they thought they put out. But when the winds picked
up again a couple of days later, that's when the
Oakland Hills fire really erupted and caused all the damage
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from a fire that they thought had been out completely.
All right, Up next, a little bit more about what's
going on for the rain forecast, and it's eagle time.
The eagles we're talking Keiana respect Keana suggested that this
may be Southern California's Groundhog Day. They were doing this
whole eagle egg watch thing over and over and over
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and expecting different results. But this one is a little
different because now we have three eggs. I guess why
passengers on that flight included a bunch of teenage figure skaters.
They were headed back from the US figure skating championship
in Wichita. Their Russian coaches were also part of it.
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US Figure Skating put out a statement that said that
several skaters, coaches and their family members were on that
flight after attending a development camp that followed the championships
that wrapped up Sunday in Wichita. Internationally, militants freed eight
more hostages from the Gaza Strip, and then Israel turned
around and released one hundred and ten Palestinian prisoners part
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of the ceasefire. There was some chaos though, that took
part some of the hostages. The Hamas held hostages were
pushed through a rowdy crowd by a bunch of masked militants,
and obviously that upset Israel. The Prime Minister, as a
matter of fact, briefly put on hold the prisoner swap.
He demanded that mediators go in and make sure that
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there would be safe exits for the Israeli hostile just
going forward, a commitment that he said he later received.
Then later Thursday, Hamas confirmed the death of Muhammad Dif,
head of its military wing, six months after Israel City
was killed in an air strike there in southern Gaza.
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We'll talk more about what's going on with the confirmation
hearings coming up, we get into swamp Watch. Also more
on President Trump's order about housing illegalalien criminals in Guantanamo Bay.
Sitting there, nobody's using it, so he says they'll probably
start planning on doing that. We are expecting another National
(15:38):
Transportation Safety Board update on the crash that plane versus
helicopter collision in DC, So we'll get to that and
carry some of that live when it happens.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mentioned the fires.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
It looks like there is another cold front off the
Pacific northwest that's going to bring some more rain to
southern California. It's expected Tuesday to Thursday of next week.
Although it's not a huge storm, somewhere between a quarter
of an inch, half an inch, maybe more if you're
a higher elevations. Not quite as heavy as we saw
just last weekend. Obviously, there are some people stranded in
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the snow because the snow level is relatively low. That
prompted some flash flood warnings for parts of Malibu and
the Palisades because of the burned scar area, and then
a full closure of Topanga Canyon from pch Over to
Grand View Drive because of the mud and brief flows
that came as a result of last weekend storm. The temperatures, however,
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warmer temperatures starting tomorrow through Sunday north of Santa Barbara.
You could see some light showers, they're saying. But as
for next week's forecast, National Weather Service said there's still
a range of outcomes where rainfall amounts the timing are concerned,
but there is at least some risk of moderate to
heavy totals and intensities.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So good news.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Now, if you're an eagle egg, I suppose it's going
to be snowy up there in the Big Bear area.
Fan of Jackie and Shadow are cheering on the chances
that are increasing that we'll see a live eagle chick
at some point. Jackie was confirmed to have laid her
third egg this week, according to friends of Big Bear Valley.
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They're the ones that run that live feet of Jackie
in Shadows Nest, and they said the egg came right
on Jackie's schedule. There's a blog post that was published
that says this egg laying process is almost identical to
the previous two and that it took less than four
months to get that final push. The blog post says
Jackie looked down and that third egg have been softly
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laid down beside the other two. Her calmness continues as
she gently talents tucked, stepped back to check on her
eggs and almost immediately settle down on top of them,
ready to keep them warm and protected. Here's an awful
Here's an awful sentence, and if you are any sort
of medical inclination, you will know what this means. About
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fifteen minutes after she laid the egg, Jackie stood up
and rapidly shook all the trauma out of herself before
promptly settling back down on her eggs and falling asleep.
Shadow apparently gave her some much needed space after supplying
her with two fish and then and mating on a
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nearby perch tree on Tuesday. And that means anyway, he
also had some of the nest watching. There are thousands
of people watching the live stream of these eggs, thousands, thousands,
which brings to mind the idea that we should be
doing a phone fee fresh sorry, phone free February. You
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say that, phone free February. I know somebody who's not
here today because she's getting dental work done, who has
been dry all of January and maybe phone free February
is the next way to increase your wellness. A space rock,
they say is between forty and one hundred yards wide,
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spotted on Christmas Day by a telescope in Chile, is
expected to hit sometime in December of twenty thirty two.
Official estimates says there's about a one point two percent
chance that this Christmas asteroid code named twenty twenty four
y R four will hit the Earth at five twenty
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five in the morning Wednesday's December twenty second, twenty thirty two.
So if you're expecting it all to burn, that may
be your day. It's time for our wellness segment of
the day. Oh, I'm sorry, I blew it. I didn't
know that I was going to surprise Jacob with the
wellness segment.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Don't take your head at me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I just wanted to see how quick you were on
the trigger when you find it to play it interrupt me.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Many of us of us have looked at our phones. Okay,
now play.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm feel terrible. He spends most of his day at
the office city the nation, include a variety of activities
and preferably some exercise late in the afternoon. I never
exercised a day in my line. We just got to
sit here and wait. Look done. Every morning I smoke
a cigarette and for lunch, I eat a bacon sandwich,
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and I usually drink my dinner.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's time for Gary and Shannon's periodic Guide for Wellness
and Personal Improvement.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
For your health.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Most of us have had times where we look at
our phone and realize that we've just spent an hour
on the phone and have no idea where the time went.
You go on your phone, you check a notification, you're
going to look up one thing, You're going to find
one little app that you need to look a I
don't know, bank account or something like that, and you
end up an hour on your phone, scrolling through social
media whatever you're doing on there. It sounds like you.
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Here is an option phone free February Now. The guy
who came up with this, Jacob warren Co, created this
campaign under the Global Solidarity Foundation, whatever the hell that is.
He's not actually asking you to drop your phone completely
for the month of February, although it is the shortest month.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He said.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
The goal is simply for you to reduce your overall
smartphone usage to get you to question what you actually
need your phone for. I know plenty of people who
will take apps off their take Instagram, take Twitter, off face,
whatever it is, a social media TikTok, they'll take it
off their phone because they realize they lose time when
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they're on those apps all the time. Obviously, smartphone usage
ten years ago was nothing compared to what it is today.
But the vast majority of Americas three hundred and forty
million of us, the vast majority, have a smartphone, and
we're all spending more and more time time online. About
a third of people, a third of Americans say they
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are almost constantly online on various devices, which includes their phones, iPads, computers,
whatever you want to talk about. Experts have said there
would be huge benefits to us cutting back. There's research
that shows that more screen time is associated with more obesity,
more sleep problems, more mental health issues. Psychologists say they've
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been treating a whole bunch more people who are addicted
to their devices. What's the likelihood Are you more likely
to forget your wallet or your phone? I mean, that's
a dude thing. Maybe are you more apt to forget
your purse or your phone, or your keys or your phone.
So many people would never leave the house without their phone.
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I mean, think about my kids, for example, They've had
this has been the way that they've lived their lives
for the last ten or twelve years. And anybody under
the age of twenty, anybody under the age of thirty,
probably has their phone basically sewn into their hand or pocket.
The good news is a lot of the harmful effects
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that come from smartphone usage like this, they say would
be reversible. Jennifer Margaret Kesenstein is the director of psychology,
neuropsychology and Social Work JOHNS Hopkins and says reducing your
cell phone use by just one hour a day can
have a huge impact on your quality of life and
the levels of depression that you have.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Curbing screen time.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is a way to make a difference rather than just
go in cold turkey, because a lot of people it's
not realistic for them. You use your phone for work,
you use your phone for staying in touch with family members, etc.
But using a device for things like scrolling through social media,
texting friends, playing games causes the brain to release dopamine.
Obviously that makes us feel pleasure or time. Our brains
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actually develop a dopamine tolerance. You need more game, more
social media, or you need it longer to feel that
same amount of pleasure. And obviously when you do that
over and over again, that can lead to an addiction.
And if you're not sure if you're spending too much
time on your phone, go into your settings, look at
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your average daily screen time and when you see that,
it will probably blow you away. I happen to have
that alert that comes on every Sunday morning. I think
it's Sunday morning. It's either Saturday or Sunday morning. And
what they do is what the phone does is it
tells me I averaged this amount of screen time per
day this last week, and that either represents an increase
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from the week before or a decrease.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And then it gives me a percentage the.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It can be pretty shocking at times, but again I
use my phone a lot for work stuff, and especially
the two weeks of the fires that we were covering,
my phone was on constantly because I was constantly trying
to update information, get the latest information, etc. One of
the ways that you can cut back on screen time
is find a dopamine replacement for that, find some other
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healthier replacement that would provide you with a certain amount
of dopamine. Think about it ahead of time. This is
like preparing a meal ahead of time, being more healthy
than the last minute options that you often have. Ask
make a list of things that you enjoy doing without
your phone, walk outside, read, draw, stretch, work out, something
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like that. One big key they say is to keep
the phone out of your bedroom all the time, not
just at night time when you keep it downstairs, or
you keep it in the front by your keys and
wallet or whatever, but keep it out of your bedroom
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Make it a no go zone for your phone.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
If you are just going back in your bathroom and
take a shower, leave the phone outside. You shouldn't have
your phone in the bathroom anyway, you weirdo. But just
be aware of how much you use your phone. That's
phone free free in quotes, phone free February all right,
swamp watch when we come back. Also an update from
iHeartRadio's aviation expert.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Sneezing.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Sorry, aviation expert A Jay Ratliff is going to join
us and we're going to talk about that plane crash
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Big story today, of course, is
this plane crash. The collision between an American Airlines regional
jet on its way in from Wichita, Kansas, that colliding
with an Army helicopter over the Potomac River just just next.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
To Reaga National Airport last night.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Air traffic controllers had warned the helicopter it was on
course to collide with the jet. This helicopter then hit
the bombardier plane operated by an American Airlines subsidiarias approaching
for landing at Reaga National. There was a fireball explosion
that was visible. Many different videos have shown this already,
(00:43):
and I wouldn't be surprised if we see many, many more,
just based on the fact that there are so many
cameras in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And the surrounding area.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
After this explosion, both of the aircraft landed into the
Potomac River. You hear on some of the air traffic
control tapes gasps in the background. People who had witnessed
this thing firsthand from the tower confirmation hearings continue today.
RFK Junior goes from the Finance Committee in the Senate
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to today's Help Committee.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Health is one of the things. Cash Ptel nominated to
take over.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The FBI, goes before the Judiciary Committee, and Tulci Gabbard
has been answering questions about Basha Assad, about Edward Snowden.
She is before the Intelligence Committee. All of that continues
to go on in DC today. We'll talk a little
bit more about a DC issue. At the top of
the hour, we get into Swamp Watch, and that will
(01:40):
include President Trump's plan to use GITMO as a place
to hold illegal alien criminals who were taken out of
the country. So back here at home, the fire cleanup continues,
and as we get through what will be some very
very difficult months and probably a couple of years of
clean up and rebuild. We got to figure out what
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caused these fires in the first place. And there are
two very different tracks for the two largest fires that
we're talking about, the Eton Fire over in Altadena and
the Palisades Fire over Pacific Palisades. The more information that
comes out about the Eton fire, the more it looks
like this was power lines that caused this massive and
(02:24):
incredibly destructive, deadly fire. In fact, sorry, The New York
Times has an article today that talks with Whisker Labs,
Bob Marshall's co founder, a chief executive of Whisker Labs.
Whisker Labs has a bunch of censors that are installed
in homes around the country measuring abnormal activity on the
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electrical grid. And he describes something Bob Marshall does. He
described something that happened the night of January seventh, when
the Eton fire started, that I've never heard described before.
Moments before the fire actually erupted near transmission towers up
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in the hills above Altadena, some high voltage power lines
faulted in that area. About three seconds after that fault,
another major fault registered right near Altadena. And in fact,
this is the part that I've never heard before. The
two electrical disruptions along those transmission lines were so powerful
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that they reverberated as far away as Oregon and Utah.
And again they could tell because Whisker Labs has a
bunch of these sensors installed in people's homes around the country.
And even Bob Marshall, who does this for a living, says,
we looked at this one, and it was Holy cow.
This is a transmission scale event. Anytime something happens on
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the grid and we see a fault at exactly the
same time on many many sensors, than it is a
fault on the utility grid. Those faults occurred at six
ten PM and six eleven PM. Remember earlier, a few
days ago, one of the law firms had put out
surveillance video that appeared to show flashes.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
In the vicinity of those transmission lines that would coincide.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
The flashes on the video would coincide with the timing
of the faults that were detected by Whisker Labs. The
data from Whisker Labs is at this point coincidental. There's
no way to prove that what they saw on their
electrical sensors started that fire in the hills above Altadena,
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but when you have that much evidence that points to
that location at that time, it's hard to not draw
that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You combine all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
With the eyewitness accounts, the people who saw this firsthand
cell phone video of the fire that's shown up between
beneath a set of three of those towers, those big
lat steel lattice towers. The flashes at the gas station
the transmission line owned by so Cal Edison. Edison at
this point has not conceded that its equipment caused the
(05:19):
eaton FI. Of course they haven't. They're not going to
come out until they're forced to come out and say so.
But they do say that they are conducting their own investigation,
and Edison, to its credit, has agreed to meet with
Whisker Labs about the data as part of its review.
Could take months for them to figure this out, but
(05:42):
once again, even more evidence that those flashes in the
hills above Altadena just after six o'clock on January seventh
were probably power lines going down or arcing, sparking and
then starting the fire beneath them. Now, the Palisades fire
is very different story. It was windy that day, was
(06:03):
earlier in the day January seventh, and we were on
the air when it happened. But two leading theories have
come out about exactly what happened. One of the things
I said the day that the Palisades fire started was
that it reminded me of the fire in the Oakland
Hills back in nineteen ninety one, and one of those
(06:23):
theories tracks with that description. Of what happened in the
Oakland Hills. Shannon's out today's getting her teeth fixed. Don't
worry about it a little. Some dentist was able to
finally fit her in so she can get her tooth fixed,
so she can come back all better tomorrow. Another rain
event coming to southern California. National Weather Service forecasting a
(06:45):
minor to moderate rain event in La in Ventura Counties
next week from Tuesday through Thursday. Quarter of an inch
to an inch expected Tuesday through Thursday.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Rainfall could be.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A little higher in the mountains and the hills, potentially
totaling one to two inches. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean
an then to fire season, but it does mean that
there is some relief. And I mentioned we're talking last
segment about the investigation into what caused the Eaten fire
in the hills above Altadena. It started on January seventh,
(07:16):
and it looks more and more like it was power
lines that may have faulted come down something in the
hills above Altadena that eventually that fire was pushed down
by the winds into the neighborhoods there. As for the
Palisades fire, there's an interesting problem with the investigation into
(07:39):
what started the Palisades fire. It started also January seventh,
but it was at about ten fifteen in the morning,
and that was just a short time before we were
notified about it, right about ten thirty people driving along Pcight.
Somebody had actually called us and left us a talkback
message that said that they could see smoke coming from
the hills above the Palisades, and that started obviously what
(08:01):
became a couple of weeks of waldewall coverage here on
KFI about both of those fires. Well, for the last
couple of weeks, a team of investigators from the US
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives has been
working out of command post in the neighborhood of Pacific
Palisades and that Highlands neighborhood, and there is a pretty
(08:23):
popular hiking trail, the Skull Rock trailhead, where they believe
that the fire started. And there's only two real good
theories right now about what started the fire. The first
one is it's human caused, somebody cigarette fireworks something like that.
(08:47):
January seventh, the morning of extremely windy the fire starts
and gets out of control. The other one, the other
theory that they're looking at is that somehow an almost
weak old fire that actually started on January first was
able to reignite. And I know that sounds weird, but
(09:11):
the LA Fire Department was called into that area, the
hillside above Pacific Palisades on January first. This would have
been seventeen minutes after midnight January first, and a home
about two blocks away from that Skull Rock trailhead was
the homeowner, I should say about two blocks away was
(09:31):
the one who first called the fire in said that
they could see the flames and smell the smoke, and
at this point somebody, an investigator, an anonymous investigator has
told the La Times that they believe that that fire,
that January first fire, was sparked by fireworks. Initially, I've
seen this unfortunately before. But initially they could not put
(09:56):
helicopters in the air because of the wind. But at
about one four in the morning, they started doing an
aerial attack support a cruise on the ground. TV cameras
were there caught the whole thing just about three point thirty,
so about three hours, three plus hours after the fire
was first reported. They said that they had stopped the
forward progress of the fire Now, what happens then, is
(10:16):
they don't just pack up and leave, Even on a
fire that's that small, relatively small, they don't just pack up.
A little over an hour after the forward progress is stopped.
Lapd says they completed the hose line around the perimeter.
Some of the firefighters stayed there for thirty six hours.
(10:37):
Someone was on scene for thirty six hours after that
fire was considered stopped. And in fact, they do a
cold trailing operation there. Crews literally feel for any heat
that might be lingering along the edge of the fire.
They'll dig out any hotspot that they find. They trenched
the live edges make sure that nothing flares up. The
(11:00):
idea then that the January seventh fire was somehow a
remnant of that New Year's Day fire is pretty far fetched,
but it is possible. The LA Fire Department has not
yet said whether or not they did any sort of
thermal imaging of the area after that New Year's Day
(11:22):
fire to make sure that there were no hotspots. A
lot of times, agencies like that do use thermal imaging
during fires after fires to find the hotspots when there's
no visible light or in conditions when it's a heavy
smog or mist or something like that. And the idea
that this fire, somehow, the Palisades fire, was a remnant
(11:45):
of that New Year's Day fire is slim. The chances
of it are very slim, but it is still a possibility,
and that's one of the things that they're looking at.
ATF says they want to have a report on the
cause of the Palisades fire sometime within the next sixty days.
That would be considerably faster than the massive fire that
burned on the island of Maui from twenty twenty three
(12:08):
that took about a year. And it may depend on
whether or not they need to have more tests back
at the fire lab that the ATF has in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And the other thing is this is.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's hard for them to a find the source of ignition.
Where did this thing actually start? Where was the one
point on those hills in the above the Palisades where
this thing actually started, and is it within the fire
perimeter of that New Year's Day fire? That maybe there
was something that continued to smolder for seven days and
(12:42):
then the high winds that we saw on the morning
of January seventh blew this thing into a fire. But
I mentioned the Oakland Hills fire. It is possible for
a fire like that to rekindle after several days, maybe
even months. The Oakland Hills Fire ninety one destroyed twenty
five hundred different structures. It came a few days after
(13:08):
there was a small six acre fire in that same area.
Firefighters did have engines there. They weren't constantly looking at
that six acre fire that they had put out, or
they thought they put out. But when the winds picked
up again a couple of days later, that's when the
Oakland Hills fire really erupted and caused all the damage
(13:31):
from a fire that they thought had been out completely.
All right, Up next, a little bit more about what's
going on for the rain forecast, and it's eagle time.
The eagles we're talking Keiana respect Keana suggested that this
may be Southern California's Groundhog Day. They were doing this
whole eagle egg watch thing over and over and over
(13:54):
and expecting different results. But this one is a little
different because now we have three eggs. I guess why
passengers on that flight included a bunch of teenage figure skaters.
They were headed back from the US figure skating championship
in Wichita. Their Russian coaches were also part of it.
(14:14):
US Figure Skating put out a statement that said that
several skaters, coaches and their family members were on that
flight after attending a development camp that followed the championships
that wrapped up Sunday in Wichita. Internationally, militants freed eight
more hostages from the Gaza Strip, and then Israel turned
around and released one hundred and ten Palestinian prisoners part
(14:35):
of the ceasefire. There was some chaos though, that took
part some of the hostages. The Hamas held hostages were
pushed through a rowdy crowd by a bunch of masked militants,
and obviously that upset Israel. The Prime Minister, as a
matter of fact, briefly put on hold the prisoner swap.
He demanded that mediators go in and make sure that
(14:57):
there would be safe exits for the Israeli hostile just
going forward, a commitment that he said he later received.
Then later Thursday, Hamas confirmed the death of Muhammad Dif,
head of its military wing, six months after Israel City
was killed in an air strike there in southern Gaza.
(15:17):
We'll talk more about what's going on with the confirmation
hearings coming up, we get into swamp Watch. Also more
on President Trump's order about housing illegalalien criminals in Guantanamo Bay.
Sitting there, nobody's using it, so he says they'll probably
start planning on doing that. We are expecting another National
(15:38):
Transportation Safety Board update on the crash that plane versus
helicopter collision in DC, So we'll get to that and
carry some of that live when it happens.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I mentioned the fires.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
It looks like there is another cold front off the
Pacific northwest that's going to bring some more rain to
southern California. It's expected Tuesday to Thursday of next week.
Although it's not a huge storm, somewhere between a quarter
of an inch, half an inch, maybe more if you're
a higher elevations. Not quite as heavy as we saw
just last weekend. Obviously, there are some people stranded in
(16:12):
the snow because the snow level is relatively low. That
prompted some flash flood warnings for parts of Malibu and
the Palisades because of the burned scar area, and then
a full closure of Topanga Canyon from pch Over to
Grand View Drive because of the mud and brief flows
that came as a result of last weekend storm. The temperatures, however,
(16:33):
warmer temperatures starting tomorrow through Sunday north of Santa Barbara.
You could see some light showers, they're saying. But as
for next week's forecast, National Weather Service said there's still
a range of outcomes where rainfall amounts the timing are concerned,
but there is at least some risk of moderate to
heavy totals and intensities.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So good news.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Now, if you're an eagle egg, I suppose it's going
to be snowy up there in the Big Bear area.
Fan of Jackie and Shadow are cheering on the chances
that are increasing that we'll see a live eagle chick
at some point. Jackie was confirmed to have laid her
third egg this week, according to friends of Big Bear Valley.
(17:17):
They're the ones that run that live feet of Jackie
in Shadows Nest, and they said the egg came right
on Jackie's schedule. There's a blog post that was published
that says this egg laying process is almost identical to
the previous two and that it took less than four
months to get that final push. The blog post says
Jackie looked down and that third egg have been softly
(17:38):
laid down beside the other two. Her calmness continues as
she gently talents tucked, stepped back to check on her
eggs and almost immediately settle down on top of them,
ready to keep them warm and protected. Here's an awful
Here's an awful sentence, and if you are any sort
of medical inclination, you will know what this means. About
(18:01):
fifteen minutes after she laid the egg, Jackie stood up
and rapidly shook all the trauma out of herself before
promptly settling back down on her eggs and falling asleep.
Shadow apparently gave her some much needed space after supplying
her with two fish and then and mating on a
(18:24):
nearby perch tree on Tuesday. And that means anyway, he
also had some of the nest watching. There are thousands
of people watching the live stream of these eggs, thousands, thousands,
which brings to mind the idea that we should be
doing a phone fee fresh sorry, phone free February. You
(18:45):
say that, phone free February. I know somebody who's not
here today because she's getting dental work done, who has
been dry all of January and maybe phone free February
is the next way to increase your wellness. A space rock,
they say is between forty and one hundred yards wide,
(19:06):
spotted on Christmas Day by a telescope in Chile, is
expected to hit sometime in December of twenty thirty two.
Official estimates says there's about a one point two percent
chance that this Christmas asteroid code named twenty twenty four
y R four will hit the Earth at five twenty
(19:29):
five in the morning Wednesday's December twenty second, twenty thirty two.
So if you're expecting it all to burn, that may
be your day. It's time for our wellness segment of
the day. Oh, I'm sorry, I blew it. I didn't
know that I was going to surprise Jacob with the
wellness segment.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Don't take your head at me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I just wanted to see how quick you were on
the trigger when you find it to play it interrupt me.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Many of us of us have looked at our phones. Okay,
now play.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm feel terrible. He spends most of his day at
the office city the nation, include a variety of activities
and preferably some exercise late in the afternoon. I never
exercised a day in my line. We just got to
sit here and wait. Look done. Every morning I smoke
a cigarette and for lunch, I eat a bacon sandwich,
(20:24):
and I usually drink my dinner.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's time for Gary and Shannon's periodic Guide for Wellness
and Personal Improvement.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
For your health.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Most of us have had times where we look at
our phone and realize that we've just spent an hour
on the phone and have no idea where the time went.
You go on your phone, you check a notification, you're
going to look up one thing, You're going to find
one little app that you need to look a I
don't know, bank account or something like that, and you
end up an hour on your phone, scrolling through social
media whatever you're doing on there. It sounds like you.
(20:59):
Here is an option phone free February Now. The guy
who came up with this, Jacob warren Co, created this
campaign under the Global Solidarity Foundation, whatever the hell that is.
He's not actually asking you to drop your phone completely
for the month of February, although it is the shortest month.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He said.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
The goal is simply for you to reduce your overall
smartphone usage to get you to question what you actually
need your phone for. I know plenty of people who
will take apps off their take Instagram, take Twitter, off face,
whatever it is, a social media TikTok, they'll take it
off their phone because they realize they lose time when
(21:43):
they're on those apps all the time. Obviously, smartphone usage
ten years ago was nothing compared to what it is today.
But the vast majority of Americas three hundred and forty
million of us, the vast majority, have a smartphone, and
we're all spending more and more time time online. About
a third of people, a third of Americans say they
(22:05):
are almost constantly online on various devices, which includes their phones, iPads, computers,
whatever you want to talk about. Experts have said there
would be huge benefits to us cutting back. There's research
that shows that more screen time is associated with more obesity,
more sleep problems, more mental health issues. Psychologists say they've
(22:29):
been treating a whole bunch more people who are addicted
to their devices. What's the likelihood Are you more likely
to forget your wallet or your phone? I mean, that's
a dude thing. Maybe are you more apt to forget
your purse or your phone, or your keys or your phone.
So many people would never leave the house without their phone.
(22:53):
I mean, think about my kids, for example, They've had
this has been the way that they've lived their lives
for the last ten or twelve years. And anybody under
the age of twenty, anybody under the age of thirty,
probably has their phone basically sewn into their hand or pocket.
The good news is a lot of the harmful effects
(23:14):
that come from smartphone usage like this, they say would
be reversible. Jennifer Margaret Kesenstein is the director of psychology,
neuropsychology and Social Work JOHNS Hopkins and says reducing your
cell phone use by just one hour a day can
have a huge impact on your quality of life and
the levels of depression that you have.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Curbing screen time.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is a way to make a difference rather than just
go in cold turkey, because a lot of people it's
not realistic for them. You use your phone for work,
you use your phone for staying in touch with family members, etc.
But using a device for things like scrolling through social media,
texting friends, playing games causes the brain to release dopamine.
Obviously that makes us feel pleasure or time. Our brains
(24:02):
actually develop a dopamine tolerance. You need more game, more
social media, or you need it longer to feel that
same amount of pleasure. And obviously when you do that
over and over again, that can lead to an addiction.
And if you're not sure if you're spending too much
time on your phone, go into your settings, look at
(24:22):
your average daily screen time and when you see that,
it will probably blow you away. I happen to have
that alert that comes on every Sunday morning. I think
it's Sunday morning. It's either Saturday or Sunday morning. And
what they do is what the phone does is it
tells me I averaged this amount of screen time per
day this last week, and that either represents an increase
(24:45):
from the week before or a decrease.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And then it gives me a percentage the.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It can be pretty shocking at times, but again I
use my phone a lot for work stuff, and especially
the two weeks of the fires that we were covering,
my phone was on constantly because I was constantly trying
to update information, get the latest information, etc. One of
the ways that you can cut back on screen time
is find a dopamine replacement for that, find some other
(25:15):
healthier replacement that would provide you with a certain amount
of dopamine. Think about it ahead of time. This is
like preparing a meal ahead of time, being more healthy
than the last minute options that you often have. Ask
make a list of things that you enjoy doing without
your phone, walk outside, read, draw, stretch, work out, something
(25:40):
like that. One big key they say is to keep
the phone out of your bedroom all the time, not
just at night time when you keep it downstairs, or
you keep it in the front by your keys and
wallet or whatever, but keep it out of your bedroom
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Make it a no go zone for your phone.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
If you are just going back in your bathroom and
take a shower, leave the phone outside. You shouldn't have
your phone in the bathroom anyway, you weirdo. But just
be aware of how much you use your phone. That's
phone free free in quotes, phone free February all right,
swamp watch when we come back. Also an update from
iHeartRadio's aviation expert.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Sneezing.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Sorry, aviation expert A Jay Ratliff is going to join
us and we're going to talk about that plane crash
into the Potomac in DC. If you miss any part
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(26:42):
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