February 5, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon start the second hour of the show with the Southern California being hit with rain. Gary and Shannon also discuss an arsonist being chases down in Northridge, a Hollywood producer being found guilty in the overdoes death of two women and a man in Pennsylvania who stole 100,000 eggs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kfi
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Because no, we did.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We did not.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Just to be clear, Gary and Shannon k I AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Later in
the show, we're going to talk about how we use
so many less words than we used to every single
day on average, you know, the thousands of words and
the old story that women use so many more words
than men.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
They do, but it's not as many as we think.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And we talked about the importance of just practicing writing,
physically writing things.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Hi, Garyan Shannon. This is Casey and Anaheim Shannon. I
am a letter writer too, and I have a goal
every week for the last few years of sending five letters.
So my wife originally told me to stop buying stamps
and so instead I started using them and then I
used it to improve my handwriting and it has worked.
So look for a letter from me in your mail.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, I can't fight.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh, I can't wait, I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Now I took to writing condolence letters to people. I
didn't write one to you. Well, I'm not I did not.
I mean, I see you every day. It's for people
that I don't see every day that have lost parents
or whatever. I handwrite letters as opposed to getting a
card that says because that card is great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Card is nice, but it's not. It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So but that he says he's writing, he has a
goal at least of writing five a week. I think
I've written a five in probably two years. That's the
other thing that makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You don't go to my wedding. You don't write me
a condolence letter. All the major milestones were just going
to ignore.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
I went to your father's memorial. You did, you did?
I'm totally kidding. I do mom every once in a
while to keep her to hear that. Well, I just
run interference. So okay, I.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Say, hey, in a couple of minutes, sugar Shan is
gonna send you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's about a static No. No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, I'm done obsessing. It's over.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Gary and Shannon have a bunch of stories that we
will follow today. There's new information that came out of
that air traffic control radar from the plane crash. The
American Airlines passenger plane in the black Hawk Army helicopter.
The radar has confirmed that the Blackhawk was flying too high.
NTSB says radar data shows that it was about one
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hundred feet too high, but radar data is rounded to
the nearest one hundred feet, which means the helicopter is
flying somewhere between two fifty and three point fifty when
it should have been at two hundred. That would mean
that it was the American Airlines flight I think was
at three twenty five at the last radar to tame.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right, Well, the first of two Pineapple Express storms,
Good Lord, has arrived in southern California after really delivering
a stronger expected punch to northern California in the Bay
Area up they're breaking rainfall totals from Sonoma County to
Russian River, Haildsburg, Gernville, all of it evacuated there, parts
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of it Gernville due to flooding, which is pretty regular
from what I remember growing up up there. But yeah,
it's February, so we're going to have some rain. They
say about fifteen thousand customers were affected early this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
According to PGNE.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
They said that there could be floods there could be
rock slides triggered on canyon roads, but it's going to
be beneficial for the most part, helping to reduce the risk,
reduce the risk of wildfires, not completely wipe it out,
but definitely mitigate that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, there's a strange line that's drawn.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I don't think I recalled storms like this before, but
there's a strange line. Basically, the Ventura Santa Barbara county
line north has been getting a lot of rain, and
they're talking about somewhere between four and eight inches of
rain for the San Lucia Range, which is right right
over kind of Moro Bay, Pismo Beach kind of area.
Eight inches of rain in just one storm. I told
(04:08):
you the Mount Tamil Pious numbers were astronomical, more than
sixteen inches of rain.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's up farther north, of course.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But I think the most significant thing, just in terms
of what we've been dealing with for the last couple
of weeks, is that the National Weather Service said that
there was a very slim chance of any sort of
significant debrief flow in La or Ventura counties in the
fire scars and fire burn scars. And that's because it's
just light rain. It's not heavy rain. It's not coming
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down fast, it's not ridiculous. It's the kind of rain
that we absolutely needed.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's just a sprinkle. It's just a little sprinkle.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
After the rain tapers off today, they say we'll get
a brief eighteen to twenty four hour break before a
second non atmospheric river storm moves in Thursday.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Ride rain or call it freaking rain?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
How do we not have a name for just well,
we do.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's called non atmospheric river Good lord, you're insufferable, you
meteorologists fearmongers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But not Henry.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, He's never that way. Now calms our fears.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Of all the times to try to light a fire,
I would imagine that now is probably not the best time,
since everybody is still on edge and we still see
the scars left by the wildfires from last month. But
there was a guy who decided that he wanted to
start a brush fire Monday afternoon near the Chatsworth Reservoir,
and as everybody should do, people held him down and
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started to beat the.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Living crap out of him before the cops got there.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I love that, don't you love a vigilante story? Something
makes me want to chase someone down right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, go out in that hallway. Whoever you see first.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, they need to do something wrong first. It's probably true,
that's the whole vigilanti.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But listen, is any of us really clear? We all
have stories. You could probably you could hit anybody in
that hallway, and then they'll tell you, depending on how
hard you punch them or tackle.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Them, they'll tell you what they did, they've done.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And they'll justify it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They'll just break down crying and say, I can't believe
you finally caught me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
A group of neighbors have chased down a guy suspected
of starting a brushfire. Happened in Chatsworth. Guy's name was Alejandro,
forty one years old. There was video posted on Instagram
shows a man running down a road being chased by
a group of people in cars. Several members of the
group physically detained Alejandro, forty one years old. The fire
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was put out by firefighters and they did notice that
there was a group following this guy. When deputies arrived
on the scene, they found Alejandro lying on the ground.
He had surrendered. He had laid down on the ground
and somebody said, as a slap, those handcuffs on him
wrong neighborhood buddy.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
These people said that they tried They saw him try
to light a brush fire near nap Ranch Road to
Woolsey Canyon, followed him in a car as he was
trying to leave the area, and a bunch of people
recorded him on their cell phones showing him setting brush
on fire near their homes. Now, obviously we thank goodness
there's no wind. There could have been much worse. Given
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all the recent fires. Communities and people are just so
much more aware of these types of things now and
they are on high alert. Sheriff's Department said. The person
who reported the incident followed this guy in a car
as I said he tried to start a second fire.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sheriff's Apartment said.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The witnesses said they only saw him set one fire,
but La Department of La Fire Department had to show
up and they did report some smoke near the reservoir
and the initial s was about fifty by fifty foot
spot fire, small, very small fire.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Seventy five thousand dollars bail for this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Said that there was warrant out for his arrest, but
they didn't explain what that warrant would have been.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
For what would you do if you were in your neighborhood.
You've got some hilly areas surrounding your neighborhood. If you
spotted someone in the dry hills trying to ignite a fire,
what would you do? I know, I assume you would
call it in and say, it looks like there's a
guy trying to start a fire.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
But would you personally.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Confront said gentleman? Confront you assuming it's a man.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm assuming it's a man, or if it's a woman.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It depends on would you engage where I don't want
to say confront Would you engage.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Where there's the closest, the closest, say you.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Were on a walk with your dog up the hill
or right there is an area that we go to
that's actually gated. There's a small gate, but it's fenced off.
You could walk down through this empty street that they
have blocked off and it's a couple hundred yards to
basically the wild land. That's where the that's where the
brush would be that he would try probably try to
light on fire.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It depends.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I don't know if I'd let my dog at him,
because he's not really gonna garner the respect that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I think he probably deserves the dog, that is.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But I could lock him in the I could lock
him in that fenced area until the cops get there
or something.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Would you would you say something so you wouldn't chase
him down?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Him to the ground?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Uh, sir, are you trying to start a fire?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
No? I mean you'd say, like, what are you doing
over there?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You wouldn't turn British and call him sir. I don't
know who that person was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Sir, are you trying to start a fire over that?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The constables if you're not careful? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just an idea.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Maybe you start walking the dog with zip ties in
your pocket case you need to.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Uh, if I had to, I would tie him up
with the leash from the from the dog. Yeah, that
would be Yeah, you would use what I had available.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What kind of a knot?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Would you use one of those like figure eight knots
and then pull it tight?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What are those called? Figure eight knots?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Square? Knot square?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Not?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Something that he wouldn't I'm not a knot guy.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I was gonna say are you a knot guy? I
know you're not a watch guy.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Not a boy scout.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I feel like not guys or watch guys.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Sometimes Yeah right, it's the same guy, same guy, not
guys or watch guys.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Huh, all right, your faces. We just uncovered the eighth
mystery of the world. Are there seven wonders? Wonders? If
you were wondering what happened to young sea turtles during
a key part of their lives, we have the answers
what you ask?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well? What?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
For decades, scientists have wondered about what happened during the
lost years between when the tiny hatchlings of sea turtles
leave the beach and when they return to the coastlines
nearly grown about one to ten years. There they disappear.
For where do you think that they were from the
time that they were babies to the time that they
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come back to the coast. What do you think they're doing?
They're out there living their lives. They're living their lives,
they say. New research published just this week shows young
turtles move between continental shelf waters and open to ocean.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Duh, they say.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Data from GPS tags revealed the tiny turtles were actually swimming,
not only drifting from with ocean currents. Of course, that's
what you do. You go out there and you live
your life. You see what's what, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You see what you like I saw find.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's called life scientists. Why don't they just call us
and ask us where do the sea turtles go? We'd
be like, well, they probably swim around, live their lives.
See what's out there.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's a lot of anger towards science. Right there is
this about the statins again.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
This is not.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
A federal judge in Maryland has ordered a second nationwide
pause on President Trump's executive order to seek the to
end birthright citizenship for anyone born into the US to
someone who's in here in the country illegally. The order
was already temporarily on hold nationally because of a separate
suit brought by four states in Washington. In all, now
(12:25):
twenty two states, bunch of other organizations have sued to
try to stop the executive action. The district judge heard
arguments in Maryland's federal court today. Bringing the suit before
her are immigrant rights advocacy groups CASA and Asylum Seeker
Advocacy Project, and a handful of pregnant illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right, So this producer who was found guilty of
two counts of murder seven counts of sexual assault yesterday.
These are the two women he dumped it area hospitals
after a night of partying. It appears that this was
a pattern of behavior. David Pierce is his name. He's
forty two, and we're talking about the deaths of Christy
Giles and Hilda Arizolia Azolia. He was caught on camera
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driving these women to hospitals in a car with no
license plates. Now, prosecutors told the jury that he provided
the drugs that caused the overdoses and then failed to
get them medical attention for hours. Both women were dumped
at hospitals about twelve to fourteen hours after passing out
at his apartment. Let's see, it looks like cocaine, fentanyl, intoxication.
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Where the rulings when it came to the causes of death.
The news of this guy getting arrested at the time
back in twenty twenty one led to at least a
dozen women coming forward accusing him of sexual assault. That
he would pose as this well connected Hollywood figure to
lure them to his apartment after these party nights.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Some of the reported that they lost consciousness or said
they felt paralyzed after he served them a drink, and
some of them woke up while he was assaulting them.
The Deputy DA Katherine Mariano, said, he's the guy you
fear your daughter encountering while out celebrating a birthday. He's
the guy you fear at a bar. He's the guy
you fear your friend connecting with on a dating app.
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They couldn't reach the verdict against a co defendant, Apparently
one of the roommates, who faced a couple of charges
of being an accessory prosecutor, said that he helped Pierce
destroy the evidence related to the deaths of these two women.
A toxicology screen did find GHB in Giles system, but
he was not charged with raping either of the women.
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They died in the overdose after partying with him. So
in Christie's body they did find GHB, but not in
Hilda's Barty body.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They say that this guy was a Hollywood producer. That's
what all the headlines say, right, that's more salacious, But
when you dig into what exactly his career in Hollywood was,
it's very scant evidence of any tangible success the La
Times rights in his career is sparse. He booked an
appearance on Dawson's Creek in the nineties, but hasn't been
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publicly credited with anything since two thousand and six. His
mother says the portrait of her son that emerged in
court was not the boy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
She might really. Mom said, David's got.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Some unique equalities that people would never know because he
would never show it to him.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh boy, good lord.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
If you only have one person vouching for you at
your murder trial and it's your mother, there's a kiss
of death.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He did take the stand in his own defense, which
is a pretty unusual, but he admitted he was living
this drug fueled lifestyle that often involved people come into
his apartment and being drunk or high or both and
passing out. But he denied proving, I'm sorry, providing drugs
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to either of these two women, and said he wasn't
even in a room when they took their final bump
a cocaine.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
One of the most chilling things is a text message
that one of the girls sent to the other girls friends.
They had gone out for a party, gone to an
after hours party, ended up at this guy's place, and
like we say, never go to a second location, right,
but you don't learn that lesson for a long time.
These girls were in their mid twenties. One of the
chilling things. And I think a lot of young women
have sent their friends the same message. Time to go,
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let's go, let's get out of here. And that was
the last text message between them, and they both ended
up dying from the drug overdoses that they were given
knowingly or unknowingly. It looks like unknowingly at least to
some extent. But time to go, and then they ended
up just bodies being dropped off at hospitals.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
All right, I'll tell you what I'm gonna I'll make
you happy in the next segment here, really we're going
to do a football quiz. Yes, getting close enough to
the you know, Super Bowl stuff that we should probably
test your football knowledge. President trump proposal that the United
States take over the Gaza Strip and permanently resettled Palestinian
residents there. It's been denounced by a bunch of allies
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and adversaries alike. Saudi Arabia was pretty quick to come in.
They said that the Kingdom has long called for an
independent Palestinian state and said it was a firm, steadfast
and unwavering physician.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Also one of our stronger allies.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albani has told reporters that his
country has long supported a two state solutions in the
Middle East and that nothing has changed. Of course, Hamas
called the proposal a recipe for creating chaos in the region.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Have you heard about the lobster fights?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, We're going to be talking about Canada's lobster fights
coming up in the next hour, because we're talking slashed buoys,
stolen lobster crates, mysterious fires, acts of vandalism where lobster
fishers have been locked in battle for more than three decades.
Lobster men. It's a fight amongst lobster men.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Didn't Jason Bateman play a guy with lobster hands in
a movie recently?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I don't know, pa, what was he?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What was that guy's boy?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'll get it. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was in that one thing with the one thing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, here we go thunder Force.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Why do I I don't think I've ever seen the movie.
I don't even know why.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I know that that's weird that you saw. That is
that like the Melissa McCarthy Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, or there she's they're superheroes. They're like weird superheroes.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Stupid. That sounds very sounds really dumb. Maybe it was great.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Maybe I did see it and I don't want to
remember some.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Maybe that is it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's possible. Hey, super Bowls coming up on on Sunday. Yeah,
and then the dark time time comes for you.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh, the dark time is already here. The dark time
has been. It's been dark since the Chargers lost in Houston.
I don't care about the Eagles or the Chiefs that
nothing about this makes me happy or excited.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
This is a good quiz that the Washington Post put
out today.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And it is are you smarter than an NFL head coach? Take?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
The quiz depends which coach, but okay.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, and it varies because these are these are apparently
real game situations that have happened, some of them recently
within the last couple of weeks. So you may you
may be familiar with them, but it's a question of
what you would do.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
If you're the If you're the head coach, I'm gonna
lose this quiz.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
IBM presents, you make the call.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Okay, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So here you go.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
First question, Yeah, you trailed by three points, it's seven
fifty left in the first quarter. Early in the game,
it's fourth and two from their twenty yard line. You're
on the opponent's twenty yard line. You kick the vel
goal or you go for the first.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Ends on who I'm playing. Am I playing for threes
or seven? The question that there's so much more that
goes on with that question. If you're playing the Chiefs,
you know, if you're playing for a team where you're
not playing for threes, you're playing for sixes, then you're.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Sucking the fun out of you're overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You go for it, but with that early you take.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
The points, I guess would so you say, but if
you want to set the tone, set the momentum, steal
the momentum, if you want to be the Redskins, you're going.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
To go for it. Would you say, I think it's
going to be.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The Redskins scenario, and I think they went for it,
and I think that they were successful.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Go for it.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yes, what happened? Commanders? Technically, Yeah, I know I have
the Buccaneers. I know, first round playoff game. They converted,
they went through, they threw in complete really they turned
over on downs.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They converted at least a couple four downs in that game.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But you were right because it's early enough in the
game make a position. So if you could score, then
you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, if you're conservative, you take the points.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
If you're playing anyway, I have second second, I've litigated
my answer.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yes, you have fourth and goal, fourth and goal from
the two. You're up by five and you got three
twenty nine left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I kicked the field goal in that situation. But again,
where are you playing? Is it an away game? Who
are you playing? All important factors.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
So you kick the field take the point, correct because
at one point the right play might have been to
go for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You go up two scores.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
But this happened Ravens at Bills Divisional round, Buffalo kicked
the field goal to go up eight. Ravens responded by
coming down for the field goal or for a touchdown,
but their two point conversion failed. Of course, Question three, Ready,
first and goal on the one. You're down by nine.
There's a minute and six left in the fourth quarter.
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In the fourth quarter, you have all three timeouts?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Who are you playing?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's first and this is so stupid. This is the
stupidest quiz I've ever heard. If you don't know who
you're playing and where, then you're down by nine one
oh say left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What do you do? Do you call the running play?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you play for a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Or kick the field goal?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Who's on your line? Who's in the backfield? They don't
tell you any of this. Who wrote this quiz? A
soccer fan? Like they don't tell you who you're blocking with.
They don't tell you. You don't tell you. They don't tell
you who your receivers are. This is ridiculous. No fourth
and one, I'm running the ball, obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh not quite well? Who am I? Who am I
dealing with?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do I have the Eagles line or do I have
the Chargers line?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
This was Bills at the Rams week fourteen. Buffalo called
a quarterback sneak. They didn't score, they needed to call
time out. They killed the chances of getting the ball
back one more time to.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
The well, if you're gonna put Josh Allen over the
left guard every time? Of course, a quarterback. Sneak's not
gonna work. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Question Four, This is silly, stupid game over time in
a playoff game, you win the coin toss, Yeah, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Keep the ball? You want the ball? In overtime you receive, Yes,
that's what that's getting the ball, isn't it. Uh? This
actually says you should kick. You should defer.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
The clearest advantage to receiving is the third possession.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
If both overtime get the number out, you're going to
make me say bad words.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You receive for sudden death chiefs forty nine ers is what.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
The next Come to the party, get very emotional.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Thirty eight seconds to go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Your team scores a touchdown, you are within one point
of the opponent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you kick for the extra point? Or do you
go for the two point conversion?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
How much time is left?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Thirty eight seconds?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
And I'm down?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
What you're down one? Now you've just scored the touchdown?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Oh you have?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So I'm playing for the tire. I'm playing for the win.
Right Who am I playing? Where am I playing?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You're playing? Okay? I don't have the answers to that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I I would kick the I would kick the extra
point correct.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
According to the Washington Post, Bengals at Ravens Week ten,
Cincinnati went for two and didn't convert in Baltimore ended
up winning that game. It's fourth and one from your sixteen,
your own sixteen. You're down by three points. There's two
minutes left in the first half. Do you punt or
you go for it? I'm down by what you're down
by three? Thirty eight seconds left?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Two minutes left in the first half. Coming back from
the commercial?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
How good is my defense? Do I trust my defense?
I know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like, do I trust my defense to hold that going
into the half? What has it been a mistake riddled
first half?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Do I want if you turn over on your own sixteen?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Can turn?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I turn to.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Tell you who the teams are.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
This is a stupid game if you don't know who
the teams are and where you're playing. If you've got
home field advantage, especially in crunch situations with just seconds remaining,
score down territory.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Someone's going to hurt they tell you to go for it.
I would have punted Ravens at Chargers. I'm sorry, Yeah,
I put punt because you weren't answering so they said
you should go for it. Ravens Chargers Week twelve. The
Ravens went for it with two minutes left in the half,
went on to score a touchdown. Interesting, they won by
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And then the last one. We'll end on this one.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Four minutes left. You score a touchdown, So you're within
eight points. Okay, four minutes left?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Wait, what's the score?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You're you're within eight points?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What does that mean? Within eight points.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fourteen to twenty two? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean within eight points, could be six points, be
four points.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You have drawn two, within six eight points, so.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're fourteen tom down, eight down eight you're down eight points.
That's a better way to put it. You have two timeouts,
repaint a remaining Do you kick the extra point?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How much times left?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Four minutes?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Four minutes?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Do you kick the extra point that would take you
to seven? Or do you go for the two point
conversion to take you to six.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Without much time? I go for the two point conversion, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Go for two? Every time. More and more coaches embraced
the math on all of this. They say, the scenario
but happened Buccaneers Lions. It was last season's playoffs, Tampa
Bay went for two after a touchdown made the score
thirty one to twenty three, but failed on the conversion.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Neither team scored again.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But you agree there's a number of other factors that
need to be factory.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
And that's why I thought it was kind of funny,
because it is. It's at least the example of if
you're smart enough to know that there are other factors
in there, then you'll probably ace this test. But if
you if you don't, and you're just like, well, of
course you're on your own, you're on their twenty yard line.
Of course you should kick the field goal, even if
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it's fourth down and there's three timeouts and whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I thought that I would make you happier, and
now I'm just angry here. I think it's a seasonal effective.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No you think so? How about I just played football?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, thank you time.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Give us any part of the show. Always go back
and listen to the podcast. KFIAM six forty dot com
slash Garyanshannon also follow us on social media.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
At Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
We have new videos all by the way that have
been posted on Instagram that you can check out.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
What's going on in the studio.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Sorry for being angry swamp watch when we come back
to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Because no, we did.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We did not.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Just to be clear, Gary and Shannon k I AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Later in
the show, we're going to talk about how we use
so many less words than we used to every single
day on average, you know, the thousands of words and
the old story that women use so many more words
than men.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
They do, but it's not as many as we think.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And we talked about the importance of just practicing writing,
physically writing things.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Hi, Garyan Shannon. This is Casey and Anaheim Shannon. I
am a letter writer too, and I have a goal
every week for the last few years of sending five letters.
So my wife originally told me to stop buying stamps
and so instead I started using them and then I
used it to improve my handwriting and it has worked.
So look for a letter from me in your mail.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, I can't fight.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh, I can't wait, I cannot wait.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Now I took to writing condolence letters to people. I
didn't write one to you. Well, I'm not I did not.
I mean, I see you every day. It's for people
that I don't see every day that have lost parents
or whatever. I handwrite letters as opposed to getting a
card that says because that card is great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Card is nice, but it's not. It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So but that he says he's writing, he has a
goal at least of writing five a week. I think
I've written a five in probably two years. That's the
other thing that makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You don't go to my wedding. You don't write me
a condolence letter. All the major milestones were just going
to ignore.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
I went to your father's memorial. You did, you did?
I'm totally kidding. I do mom every once in a
while to keep her to hear that. Well, I just
run interference. So okay, I.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Say, hey, in a couple of minutes, sugar Shan is
gonna send you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's about a static No. No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, I'm done obsessing. It's over.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Gary and Shannon have a bunch of stories that we
will follow today. There's new information that came out of
that air traffic control radar from the plane crash. The
American Airlines passenger plane in the black Hawk Army helicopter.
The radar has confirmed that the Blackhawk was flying too high.
NTSB says radar data shows that it was about one
(02:32):
hundred feet too high, but radar data is rounded to
the nearest one hundred feet, which means the helicopter is
flying somewhere between two fifty and three point fifty when
it should have been at two hundred. That would mean
that it was the American Airlines flight I think was
at three twenty five at the last radar to tame.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right, Well, the first of two Pineapple Express storms,
Good Lord, has arrived in southern California after really delivering
a stronger expected punch to northern California in the Bay
Area up they're breaking rainfall totals from Sonoma County to
Russian River, Haildsburg, Gernville, all of it evacuated there, parts
(03:13):
of it Gernville due to flooding, which is pretty regular
from what I remember growing up up there. But yeah,
it's February, so we're going to have some rain. They
say about fifteen thousand customers were affected early this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
According to PGNE.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
They said that there could be floods there could be
rock slides triggered on canyon roads, but it's going to
be beneficial for the most part, helping to reduce the risk,
reduce the risk of wildfires, not completely wipe it out,
but definitely mitigate that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, there's a strange line that's drawn.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I don't think I recalled storms like this before, but
there's a strange line. Basically, the Ventura Santa Barbara county
line north has been getting a lot of rain, and
they're talking about somewhere between four and eight inches of
rain for the San Lucia Range, which is right right
over kind of Moro Bay, Pismo Beach kind of area.
Eight inches of rain in just one storm. I told
(04:08):
you the Mount Tamil Pious numbers were astronomical, more than
sixteen inches of rain.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's up farther north, of course.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But I think the most significant thing, just in terms
of what we've been dealing with for the last couple
of weeks, is that the National Weather Service said that
there was a very slim chance of any sort of
significant debrief flow in La or Ventura counties in the
fire scars and fire burn scars. And that's because it's
just light rain. It's not heavy rain. It's not coming
(04:39):
down fast, it's not ridiculous. It's the kind of rain
that we absolutely needed.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's just a sprinkle. It's just a little sprinkle.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
After the rain tapers off today, they say we'll get
a brief eighteen to twenty four hour break before a
second non atmospheric river storm moves in Thursday.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Ride rain or call it freaking rain?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
How do we not have a name for just well,
we do.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's called non atmospheric river Good lord, you're insufferable, you
meteorologists fearmongers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But not Henry.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, He's never that way. Now calms our fears.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Of all the times to try to light a fire,
I would imagine that now is probably not the best time,
since everybody is still on edge and we still see
the scars left by the wildfires from last month. But
there was a guy who decided that he wanted to
start a brush fire Monday afternoon near the Chatsworth Reservoir,
and as everybody should do, people held him down and
(05:39):
started to beat the.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Living crap out of him before the cops got there.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I love that, don't you love a vigilante story? Something
makes me want to chase someone down right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, go out in that hallway. Whoever you see first.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, they need to do something wrong first. It's probably true,
that's the whole vigilanti.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But listen, is any of us really clear? We all
have stories. You could probably you could hit anybody in
that hallway, and then they'll tell you, depending on how
hard you punch them or tackle.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Them, they'll tell you what they did, they've done.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And they'll justify it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They'll just break down crying and say, I can't believe
you finally caught me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
A group of neighbors have chased down a guy suspected
of starting a brushfire. Happened in Chatsworth. Guy's name was Alejandro,
forty one years old. There was video posted on Instagram
shows a man running down a road being chased by
a group of people in cars. Several members of the
group physically detained Alejandro, forty one years old. The fire
(06:43):
was put out by firefighters and they did notice that
there was a group following this guy. When deputies arrived
on the scene, they found Alejandro lying on the ground.
He had surrendered. He had laid down on the ground
and somebody said, as a slap, those handcuffs on him
wrong neighborhood buddy.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
These people said that they tried They saw him try
to light a brush fire near nap Ranch Road to
Woolsey Canyon, followed him in a car as he was
trying to leave the area, and a bunch of people
recorded him on their cell phones showing him setting brush
on fire near their homes. Now, obviously we thank goodness
there's no wind. There could have been much worse. Given
(07:27):
all the recent fires. Communities and people are just so
much more aware of these types of things now and
they are on high alert. Sheriff's Department said. The person
who reported the incident followed this guy in a car
as I said he tried to start a second fire.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sheriff's Apartment said.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
The witnesses said they only saw him set one fire,
but La Department of La Fire Department had to show
up and they did report some smoke near the reservoir
and the initial s was about fifty by fifty foot
spot fire, small, very small fire.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Seventy five thousand dollars bail for this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Said that there was warrant out for his arrest, but
they didn't explain what that warrant would have been.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
For what would you do if you were in your neighborhood.
You've got some hilly areas surrounding your neighborhood. If you
spotted someone in the dry hills trying to ignite a fire,
what would you do? I know, I assume you would
call it in and say, it looks like there's a
guy trying to start a fire.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
But would you personally.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Confront said gentleman? Confront you assuming it's a man.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm assuming it's a man, or if it's a woman.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It depends on would you engage where I don't want
to say confront Would you engage.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Where there's the closest, the closest, say you.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Were on a walk with your dog up the hill
or right there is an area that we go to
that's actually gated. There's a small gate, but it's fenced off.
You could walk down through this empty street that they
have blocked off and it's a couple hundred yards to
basically the wild land. That's where the that's where the
brush would be that he would try probably try to
light on fire.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It depends.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I don't know if I'd let my dog at him,
because he's not really gonna garner the respect that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I think he probably deserves the dog, that is.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But I could lock him in the I could lock
him in that fenced area until the cops get there
or something.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Would you would you say something so you wouldn't chase
him down?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Him to the ground?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Uh, sir, are you trying to start a fire?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
No? I mean you'd say, like, what are you doing
over there?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You wouldn't turn British and call him sir. I don't
know who that person was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Sir, are you trying to start a fire over that?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The constables if you're not careful? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just an idea.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Maybe you start walking the dog with zip ties in
your pocket case you need to.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Uh, if I had to, I would tie him up
with the leash from the from the dog. Yeah, that
would be Yeah, you would use what I had available.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What kind of a knot?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Would you use one of those like figure eight knots
and then pull it tight?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What are those called? Figure eight knots?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Square? Knot square?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Not?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Something that he wouldn't I'm not a knot guy.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I was gonna say are you a knot guy? I
know you're not a watch guy.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Not a boy scout.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I feel like not guys or watch guys.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Sometimes Yeah right, it's the same guy, same guy, not
guys or watch guys.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Huh, all right, your faces. We just uncovered the eighth
mystery of the world. Are there seven wonders? Wonders? If
you were wondering what happened to young sea turtles during
a key part of their lives, we have the answers
what you ask?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well? What?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
For decades, scientists have wondered about what happened during the
lost years between when the tiny hatchlings of sea turtles
leave the beach and when they return to the coastlines
nearly grown about one to ten years. There they disappear.
For where do you think that they were from the
time that they were babies to the time that they
(11:18):
come back to the coast. What do you think they're doing?
They're out there living their lives. They're living their lives,
they say. New research published just this week shows young
turtles move between continental shelf waters and open to ocean.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Duh, they say.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Data from GPS tags revealed the tiny turtles were actually swimming,
not only drifting from with ocean currents. Of course, that's
what you do. You go out there and you live
your life. You see what's what, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You see what you like I saw find.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's called life scientists. Why don't they just call us
and ask us where do the sea turtles go? We'd
be like, well, they probably swim around, live their lives.
See what's out there.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's a lot of anger towards science. Right there is
this about the statins again.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
This is not.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
A federal judge in Maryland has ordered a second nationwide
pause on President Trump's executive order to seek the to
end birthright citizenship for anyone born into the US to
someone who's in here in the country illegally. The order
was already temporarily on hold nationally because of a separate
suit brought by four states in Washington. In all, now
(12:25):
twenty two states, bunch of other organizations have sued to
try to stop the executive action. The district judge heard
arguments in Maryland's federal court today. Bringing the suit before
her are immigrant rights advocacy groups CASA and Asylum Seeker
Advocacy Project, and a handful of pregnant illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right, So this producer who was found guilty of
two counts of murder seven counts of sexual assault yesterday.
These are the two women he dumped it area hospitals
after a night of partying. It appears that this was
a pattern of behavior. David Pierce is his name. He's
forty two, and we're talking about the deaths of Christy
Giles and Hilda Arizolia Azolia. He was caught on camera
(13:13):
driving these women to hospitals in a car with no
license plates. Now, prosecutors told the jury that he provided
the drugs that caused the overdoses and then failed to
get them medical attention for hours. Both women were dumped
at hospitals about twelve to fourteen hours after passing out
at his apartment. Let's see, it looks like cocaine, fentanyl, intoxication.
(13:39):
Where the rulings when it came to the causes of death.
The news of this guy getting arrested at the time
back in twenty twenty one led to at least a
dozen women coming forward accusing him of sexual assault. That
he would pose as this well connected Hollywood figure to
lure them to his apartment after these party nights.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Some of the reported that they lost consciousness or said
they felt paralyzed after he served them a drink, and
some of them woke up while he was assaulting them.
The Deputy DA Katherine Mariano, said, he's the guy you
fear your daughter encountering while out celebrating a birthday. He's
the guy you fear at a bar. He's the guy
you fear your friend connecting with on a dating app.
(14:24):
They couldn't reach the verdict against a co defendant, Apparently
one of the roommates, who faced a couple of charges
of being an accessory prosecutor, said that he helped Pierce
destroy the evidence related to the deaths of these two women.
A toxicology screen did find GHB in Giles system, but
he was not charged with raping either of the women.
(14:46):
They died in the overdose after partying with him. So
in Christie's body they did find GHB, but not in
Hilda's Barty body.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
They say that this guy was a Hollywood producer. That's
what all the headlines say, right, that's more salacious, But
when you dig into what exactly his career in Hollywood was,
it's very scant evidence of any tangible success the La
Times rights in his career is sparse. He booked an
appearance on Dawson's Creek in the nineties, but hasn't been
(15:15):
publicly credited with anything since two thousand and six. His
mother says the portrait of her son that emerged in
court was not the boy.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
She might really. Mom said, David's got.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Some unique equalities that people would never know because he
would never show it to him.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh boy, good lord.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
If you only have one person vouching for you at
your murder trial and it's your mother, there's a kiss
of death.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He did take the stand in his own defense, which
is a pretty unusual, but he admitted he was living
this drug fueled lifestyle that often involved people come into
his apartment and being drunk or high or both and
passing out. But he denied proving, I'm sorry, providing drugs
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to either of these two women, and said he wasn't
even in a room when they took their final bump
a cocaine.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
One of the most chilling things is a text message
that one of the girls sent to the other girls friends.
They had gone out for a party, gone to an
after hours party, ended up at this guy's place, and
like we say, never go to a second location, right,
but you don't learn that lesson for a long time.
These girls were in their mid twenties. One of the
chilling things. And I think a lot of young women
have sent their friends the same message. Time to go,
(16:29):
let's go, let's get out of here. And that was
the last text message between them, and they both ended
up dying from the drug overdoses that they were given
knowingly or unknowingly. It looks like unknowingly at least to
some extent. But time to go, and then they ended
up just bodies being dropped off at hospitals.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
All right, I'll tell you what I'm gonna I'll make
you happy in the next segment here, really we're going
to do a football quiz. Yes, getting close enough to
the you know, Super Bowl stuff that we should probably
test your football knowledge. President trump proposal that the United
States take over the Gaza Strip and permanently resettled Palestinian
residents there. It's been denounced by a bunch of allies
(17:08):
and adversaries alike. Saudi Arabia was pretty quick to come in.
They said that the Kingdom has long called for an
independent Palestinian state and said it was a firm, steadfast
and unwavering physician.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Also one of our stronger allies.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albani has told reporters that his
country has long supported a two state solutions in the
Middle East and that nothing has changed. Of course, Hamas
called the proposal a recipe for creating chaos in the region.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Have you heard about the lobster fights?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, We're going to be talking about Canada's lobster fights
coming up in the next hour, because we're talking slashed buoys,
stolen lobster crates, mysterious fires, acts of vandalism where lobster
fishers have been locked in battle for more than three decades.
Lobster men. It's a fight amongst lobster men.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Didn't Jason Bateman play a guy with lobster hands in
a movie recently?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I don't know, pa, what was he?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What was that guy's boy?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'll get it. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It was in that one thing with the one thing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh yeah, here we go thunder Force.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Why do I I don't think I've ever seen the movie.
I don't even know why.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I know that that's weird that you saw. That is
that like the Melissa McCarthy Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, or there she's they're superheroes. They're like weird superheroes.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Stupid. That sounds very sounds really dumb. Maybe it was great.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Maybe I did see it and I don't want to
remember some.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Maybe that is it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's possible. Hey, super Bowls coming up on on Sunday. Yeah,
and then the dark time time comes for you.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh, the dark time is already here. The dark time
has been. It's been dark since the Chargers lost in Houston.
I don't care about the Eagles or the Chiefs that
nothing about this makes me happy or excited.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
This is a good quiz that the Washington Post put
out today.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And it is are you smarter than an NFL head coach? Take?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
The quiz depends which coach, but okay.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, and it varies because these are these are apparently
real game situations that have happened, some of them recently
within the last couple of weeks. So you may you
may be familiar with them, but it's a question of
what you would do.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
If you're the If you're the head coach, I'm gonna
lose this quiz.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
IBM presents, you make the call.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Okay, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So here you go.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
First question, Yeah, you trailed by three points, it's seven
fifty left in the first quarter. Early in the game,
it's fourth and two from their twenty yard line. You're
on the opponent's twenty yard line. You kick the vel
goal or you go for the first.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Ends on who I'm playing. Am I playing for threes
or seven? The question that there's so much more that
goes on with that question. If you're playing the Chiefs,
you know, if you're playing for a team where you're
not playing for threes, you're playing for sixes, then you're.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Sucking the fun out of you're overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You go for it, but with that early you take.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
The points, I guess would so you say, but if
you want to set the tone, set the momentum, steal
the momentum, if you want to be the Redskins, you're going.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
To go for it. Would you say, I think it's
going to be.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The Redskins scenario, and I think they went for it,
and I think that they were successful.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Go for it.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yes, what happened? Commanders? Technically, Yeah, I know I have
the Buccaneers. I know, first round playoff game. They converted,
they went through, they threw in complete really they turned
over on downs.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They converted at least a couple four downs in that game.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But you were right because it's early enough in the
game make a position. So if you could score, then
you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, if you're conservative, you take the points.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
If you're playing anyway, I have second second, I've litigated
my answer.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yes, you have fourth and goal, fourth and goal from
the two. You're up by five and you got three
twenty nine left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I kicked the field goal in that situation. But again,
where are you playing? Is it an away game? Who
are you playing? All important factors.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
So you kick the field take the point, correct because
at one point the right play might have been to
go for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You go up two scores.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
But this happened Ravens at Bills Divisional round, Buffalo kicked
the field goal to go up eight. Ravens responded by
coming down for the field goal or for a touchdown,
but their two point conversion failed. Of course, Question three, Ready,
first and goal on the one. You're down by nine.
There's a minute and six left in the fourth quarter.
(21:49):
In the fourth quarter, you have all three timeouts?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Who are you playing?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's first and this is so stupid. This is the
stupidest quiz I've ever heard. If you don't know who
you're playing and where, then you're down by nine one
oh say left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What do you do? Do you call the running play?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you play for a touchdown?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Or kick the field goal?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Who's on your line? Who's in the backfield? They don't
tell you any of this. Who wrote this quiz? A
soccer fan? Like they don't tell you who you're blocking with.
They don't tell you. You don't tell you. They don't tell
you who your receivers are. This is ridiculous. No fourth
and one, I'm running the ball, obviously.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You're gonna run.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh not quite well? Who am I? Who am I
dealing with?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Do I have the Eagles line or do I have
the Chargers line?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
This was Bills at the Rams week fourteen. Buffalo called
a quarterback sneak. They didn't score, they needed to call
time out. They killed the chances of getting the ball
back one more time to.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
The well, if you're gonna put Josh Allen over the
left guard every time? Of course, a quarterback. Sneak's not
gonna work. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Question Four, This is silly, stupid game over time in
a playoff game, you win the coin toss, Yeah, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Keep the ball? You want the ball? In overtime you receive, Yes,
that's what that's getting the ball, isn't it. Uh? This
actually says you should kick. You should defer.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
The clearest advantage to receiving is the third possession.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
If both overtime get the number out, you're going to
make me say bad words.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You receive for sudden death chiefs forty nine ers is what.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
The next Come to the party, get very emotional.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Thirty eight seconds to go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Your team scores a touchdown, you are within one point
of the opponent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you kick for the extra point? Or do you
go for the two point conversion?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
How much time is left?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Thirty eight seconds?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
And I'm down?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
What you're down one? Now you've just scored the touchdown?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Oh you have?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So I'm playing for the tire. I'm playing for the win.
Right Who am I playing? Where am I playing?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You're playing? Okay? I don't have the answers to that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I I would kick the I would kick the extra
point correct.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
According to the Washington Post, Bengals at Ravens Week ten,
Cincinnati went for two and didn't convert in Baltimore ended
up winning that game. It's fourth and one from your sixteen,
your own sixteen. You're down by three points. There's two
minutes left in the first half. Do you punt or
you go for it? I'm down by what you're down
by three? Thirty eight seconds left?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Two minutes left in the first half. Coming back from
the commercial?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
How good is my defense? Do I trust my defense?
I know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Like, do I trust my defense to hold that going
into the half? What has it been a mistake riddled
first half?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Do I want if you turn over on your own sixteen?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Can turn?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I turn to.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Tell you who the teams are.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
This is a stupid game if you don't know who
the teams are and where you're playing. If you've got
home field advantage, especially in crunch situations with just seconds remaining,
score down territory.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Someone's going to hurt they tell you to go for it.
I would have punted Ravens at Chargers. I'm sorry, Yeah,
I put punt because you weren't answering so they said
you should go for it. Ravens Chargers Week twelve. The
Ravens went for it with two minutes left in the half,
went on to score a touchdown. Interesting, they won by
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And then the last one. We'll end on this one.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Four minutes left. You score a touchdown, So you're within
eight points. Okay, four minutes left?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Wait, what's the score?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You're you're within eight points?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What does that mean? Within eight points.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fourteen to twenty two? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I mean within eight points, could be six points, be
four points.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You have drawn two, within six eight points, so.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're fourteen tom down, eight down eight you're down eight points.
That's a better way to put it. You have two timeouts,
repaint a remaining Do you kick the extra point?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
How much times left?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Four minutes?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Four minutes?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Do you kick the extra point that would take you
to seven? Or do you go for the two point
conversion to take you to six.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Without much time? I go for the two point conversion, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Go for two? Every time. More and more coaches embraced
the math on all of this. They say, the scenario
but happened Buccaneers Lions. It was last season's playoffs, Tampa
Bay went for two after a touchdown made the score
thirty one to twenty three, but failed on the conversion.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Neither team scored again.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But you agree there's a number of other factors that
need to be factory.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
And that's why I thought it was kind of funny,
because it is. It's at least the example of if
you're smart enough to know that there are other factors
in there, then you'll probably ace this test. But if
you if you don't, and you're just like, well, of
course you're on your own, you're on their twenty yard line.
Of course you should kick the field goal, even if
(26:41):
it's fourth down and there's three timeouts and whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I thought that I would make you happier, and
now I'm just angry here. I think it's a seasonal effective.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No you think so? How about I just played football?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, thank you time.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
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slash Garyanshannon also follow us on social media.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
At Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
We have new videos all by the way that have
been posted on Instagram that you can check out.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
What's going on in the studio.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Sorry for being angry swamp watch when we come back
to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
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Speaker 4 (27:31):
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