February 17, 2025 • 28 mins
Gary begins the second hour of the show with news of LA Mayor Karen Bass apologizing for taking a trip to Afria during the wildfire. Gary also talks about how much damage the wildfires did to our ocean and drones transferring organs. Gary also speaks with NewsNation’s Brian Entin about a news Netflix documentary on Gaby Petito.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, if you didn't hear
Friday show and you don't know exactly why she's not
here today, I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Know what's to tell me.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, Gary, you're doing great playing fellow today. I've got
a couple on my car. Actually one of them is
a friend of mine, name of Bill Bond's company, and
it says my child was inmate of the month at
the local county jail. And then have another one with
Jesus on it and it says I saw that we
need to talk. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By we're taking your talkbacks of your of your best
your best bumper stickers. And like I said, Amy a second.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I really enjoyed your little chat there about your parents,
me and myself. My mother passed away at twenty fifteen,
and you will think about them every day. It's just
something that doesn't go away. You could probably be ninety
years of age if you'll think about your parents. Have
a great one there.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you. We were talking about bumper stickers.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's sorry, Dell in your favorite bumper stickers or license plateholders.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'll take either one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So here we are a month, month and a couple
of weeks after the fires, the Palisades fire and the
Eaten fires, and Karen bask got a lot of criticism
for the way that it has been handled since then.
And one of the issues was where was she when
the fire started in the first place. We all knew,
We all talked about the particularly dangerous red flag fire
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situation that existed. We knew that we hadn't seen significant
rain in months. Remember I think since May there had
been one hundredths of an inch of rain. This was
a disaster waiting to happen. And there were criticisms that
she was not in town because remember she was in
Africa to go see an inauguration of all things, and
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couldn't cancel the trip or couldn't come back. NBC's Conan
Nolan was able to talk to her Thursday of last week,
and this is important. He was talking to her specifically
about storm prep because, by the way, this is another
weather related event, the storm, the rain that came through
on Thursday. Is the city going to be prepared for it?
Because the track record for preparation is not great. And
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he said to her, you've gotten criticism for leaving the city,
the state, and the country before the January seventh fires
broke out.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I respect that trip was a mistake.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah, absolutely, there is no question about that.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
And you spoke of your colleagues. You've had a lot
of criticism. We saw Rick Caruso, the man you defeated
in the race, but you also had Rocanna, a Democratic
congressman from well respected from Silicon Valley. He didn't interview.
He says, hey, you know, Bob Iger, the president of Disney,
would make a great mayor even now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you take that personally?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
And you know what, I am focused on one thing
and one thing only, and that is to make sure
that our city is able to recover and rebuild and
that all of those individuals that lived in the Palisades
can go home. That's my focus, that's my mission, and
that's what I'm going.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
To do every day.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now she does have to, she's got to wear this.
She knows that that was a mistake. Everybody on her
staff knows that was a mistake. Indefensible in terms of
explaining how the fire apparat high in the state of California.
We're all paying attention to southern California that day. Now,
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she had no way of knowing that there was going
to be a disaster of this magnitude, but she knew
that it was a possibility, and it was amazing that
she was gone until the eighth. I mean she once
this broke out, got back on the plane and was
able to come back to La by about eleven o'clock
on the eighth, while the fires were still raging. In
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the wake of the fire. By the way, State Farm
Insurance asked for an emergency premium increase of twenty two
percent for an average California homeowner. Now, Ricardo Lara, the
insurance commissioner for the state of California, has denied the request,
specifically because he says he wants to get more information.
He has been pushing insurance companies to write policies in
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our state again despite the fact that we've seen increasing
wildfire risk. Some of them, including State Farm, have said
that they're not going to renew some policies in some
areas because of the risk. In a letter to State
Farm executives, Ricardo Lara, the commissioner, said that he needs
more information before he'd be able to approve any sort
of increase and has asked them again, not to the
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point of demanding yet, but he has asked them to
appear before him in person next week. I think it's
probably next Wednesday at the insurance Department's office in Oakland
answer questions. He says that this would be an informal conference.
State Farm says it as to seriously consider its options
within the California insurance market going forward. There's a possibility
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they just pull out, which they can do. Not quite
sure how the state's going to force them to stay
in California at least, maybe not cancel the current policies,
but maybe not.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Maybe State Farm doesn't open any new ones.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So the company last week was asking for a rate
increase averaged about twenty two percent for homeowners, fifteen percent
for renters, and a whopping thirty eight percent for condo owners,
because it says it's already paid out a billion dollars
in claims from the Eating Fire and the palis Ades
Fire already and to pay out significantly more, and it
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wants to be able to raise premium starting in May.
Add to that the fact that the California Fair Program
that sort of last chance insurance for homeowners when it
comes to fires, is already out of money and is
going to ask insurance companies to foot another billion dollars
at least into the fund since that's how it's funded
by the insurance companies. Guess who gets to pay all
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of that? Yeah, everybody else. Well, crews are trying to
remove the hundreds of thousands of tons probably of hazardous
materials because of the Eaten fire and Altadena and Palisades
fire over in the Pacific Palisades. Now we're trying to
figure out how the fires have impacted the ocean. And
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you'd think the Palisades fire obviously has a more direct
connection because it is, you know, across pch from the ocean,
and there were plenty of homes right there on the
beach in fact, that burned. And the homes, the businesses,
the cars, the electronics, the stuff turns everyday items into hazardous,
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hazardous ash past asides as best as plastics, led, heavy
metals and all of that, and a lot of that's
going to end up in the ocean, whether you wanted
to or not. A lot of that is that's the
final ending place for some of that runoff. The fire
debris and the toxic ash could make water unsafe for
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surfers and swimmers, obviously, especially after the rainfall, and we
will see more the trash the other hazards that are
making their way into the ocean. Longer term, there's a
concern about how urban contaminants would affect the food supply.
Has there ever been a disaster like that where that
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many different kinds of toxic chemicals make their way into
the ocean? Yeah, oil spills one thing. Right, If an
anchor drags along and cracks open a pipeline down on Huntington,
there's one specific pollutant and that is the oil. In
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this case, Like I said, you're talking about pesticides and
leads and plastics and asbestos. One of the concerns for
the ocean water contamination is that smoke and ash settle
at sea, and the way that the winds were blowing
those few days from January seventh until the fires were
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put out was basically from the northeast to the southwest,
so the smoke and the ash would go over the
ocean and settle there. Scientists that were on board a
research vessel during the fires detected ash and waste on
the water as far as one hundred miles offshore, things
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like twigs and shard. They said the smell was similar
to what you smell when electronics burn, and not like
a nice camfire that camp fire that is just wood.
Runoff from the rains are also a big concern. So
the U SEE San Diego scripts Institute of Oceanography is
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dealing with this and trying to figure out rainfall is
going to pick up contaminants and trash obviously while flushing
cowards the sea, the drains, the rivers, the creeks and
everything that eventually end up in the ocean, and that
runoff is what could contain a lot of the nitrogen
and the phosphate that end up in the ash of
the burn material that goes into the water. You know,
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phosphate nitrogen aren't necessarily awful because they're naturally occurring. It's
those heavy metals which are given off when you burn
different types of fuel. The soil and the burnscarred burnscar
is obviously less able to absorb the rainfall. That's why
we were causing that's why we were calling for everybody
to be careful last week when those rains came in,
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so La County has set up thousands of feet of
concrete barriers and the silt socks and the sand bags
and ever everything else to prevent debris from reaching the beaches,
but they're not going to be able to prevent all
of it. Beyond the usual samples, State water officials and
other are testing for total and dissolved metals, things like arsenic, lead, aluminum,
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volatile organic compounds. They're also looking for microplastics polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarbons or PAHs that are not good for us and
for aquatic life, and also the polychlorinated by phenols the PCBs.
That's a group of chemicals, man made chemicals that are
shown to cause cancer and animals and other serious health effects.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's going to be a wattle.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's going to be a while before they figure out
exactly the extent of this, and County public health officials
have said the chemical tests of water samples last month
didn't raise any health concerns, so they actually downgraded one
beach closure to an ocean water advisory. They're still telling
people you should probably stay out of water, but they
haven't closed the beaches. Things like forest fires are obviously
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naturally occurring. They can actually deposit things like iron nitrogen
into the ocean ecosystem that actually helps the growth of
stuff like fido plankton that could create this positive cascading
effect across the ecosystem. It's the potentially toxic ash from
not forest, from homes and cars and other things that burned.
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That's what everybody is concerned of concerned about in terms
of the ongoing potential damage.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
To the oceans from the fires.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
In a couple of minutes, we're going to talk with
Brian Enton, a reporter for News Nation.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You remember the story about Gabby Patino.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Of course, Gabby Potito was the woman who was killed
by her boyfriend, Brian Laundry on this cross country trip.
The video showed them being stopped by cops and she
looked like she was having trouble, but the cops didn't
pin it on him just yet. She eventually ended up
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dead and he killed her and left her body in
a in the forest out there and killed himself. Well,
there's a new documentary that's coming out. Brian Entton's going
to join us and talk about that. We're also talking
about the Best Bumper, Sticky Marney.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
This is Stacy from Huntington Beach. I was behind at
Tesla the other day and now on the back and said,
I bought this car before I found out that Elon
Musk was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I thought that was pretty funny. All right, what's your
favorite bumper sticker?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
If you're driving around today and you see one, let
us know what it is or and I very magnanimously
will allow license plate holders as well, because they can
be entertaining a bunch of stories that we are following.
Big storms rolled through the South and the Southeast this weekend.
We saw a death toll of at least eleven as
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this massive storm system pounded the area. Most of the
deaths occurred in Kentucky. They said ten people died. Severe
storms came during flash flood emergencies from places like Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Virginia on Saturday and then into yesterday. Still another sixty
seven peep million people under winter weather alerts as the
storm made its way through Georgia and Alabama and Mississippi.
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We're also going to see yet another polar vortex coming
in today. About sixty million people from montanaa, Maine, and
as far south as Oklahoma could see sub zero temperatures.
We will during Swamp Watch at the top of the
hour get into a little bit more about what's going
on the latest today in discussions in Saudi Arabia between
the United States and Russia trying to end some somehow
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end the conflict where Russia invaded Ukraine. Well, if you
remember the story of Gabby Petito, she and her boyfriend
Brian Laundry went on a road trip across America a
few years ago. He eventually killed her. There is a
new documentary out part of the American Murder series on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Gabby and Brian seemed like a loving couple talking about
you baby Berne hut oh, but behind the scenes they
would get into argument snop.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Turn it next to you.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The happiest people on social media usually have the darkest skeletons.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
In their closet.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Now went there was a lot that went into this
because Brian Laundry's parents, it appears, tried to cover up
what was going on with their son, who they knew
was a complete a hole. And this new three part
documentary series on Netflix, for the first time Gabby's parents
have sat down for a face to face interview and
they did so with Brian Enton, who is with News
(14:29):
Nation by the way, hosting for Chris Cuomo tonight five
o'clock here on the West Coast. Brian, thanks for taking
time for us today.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
This has got to be This is probably a tough interview, right,
I mean talking to parents who lost a young daughter
like this under these circumstances.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yeah, it's so sad. I covered the story really extensively
three and a half years ago when she went missing
and everything unfolded with her fiance. Brian Laundry and I
had interviewed the parents a couple times, but I hadn't
seen them in a while, and we did the interview
on Friday, And yeah, it's emotional. I mean, they're still
really emotional about the whole thing. Just wonderful people who
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have been through so much and are trying to sort of,
you know, deal with the pain by trying to help
other people. They've got something called the Gaby Potito Foundation
where they try to help other victims of domestic violence
and missing people and are still trying to just sort
through their own pain from the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, yeah, that's kind of a question.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I would have for them, and maybe you did ask
them specifically, how do you go forward after this? I mean,
I have a daughter that's about that age, and it
would be I mean, it's inconceivable that there is a
future after losing somebody in a situation like that. How
did they do that?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
And I think with a lot of people who lose
a loved one or they have a loved one who's murdered,
you know, they want justice. There's a trial that unfortunately
couldn't happen for them because Brian Laundry, who killed Gabby Petito,
you know, her fiance, took his own life behind a note,
you know, admitting that he did it. They went after
his parents. There was a civil lawsuit that was long
and drawn out and there are all sorts of depositions,
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and it came out through that that Brian Laundry's parents
knew something was going on. They knew that quote Gabby
was gone. They never admitted to knowing that she was murdered.
But from the very beginning they wouldn't cooperate with police.
They hired a lawyer right away, wanted everything to go
through their lawyer. I was out there covering it at
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their house at the time, and it was very bizarre
because when when Gaby went missing and then Brian Laundry
was also missing at one point, like his parents would't
even come out of the house, which from the beginning
just was very unusual and you could kind of tell
that there was something strange going on. So I think
they felt like they got some justice through that process
of of suing the Laundry parents and some of the
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truth coming out through that. But you know, they told
me like, there is no closure. You know you always
hear in movies and on TV shows, though the closure.
They're like, there really is no closure when you lose
a daughter. And I think all they can really do
now is focus on their foundation really and how they
can help other people.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What is there any current relationship between them and the Laundries,
And I don't mean relationship. It sounds like a positive thing,
but do they have they ever been in contact outside
of court?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
No, and they've never apologized, They've never They had to
be in the same room at one point during the deposition,
which I know is very uncomfortable for them, But I mean,
you think back and just watching the documentary reminded me
of all of our coverage when it was happening. I
mean when Gaby went missing. They went on the craft
country road trip, and Gaby went missing, they started texting
Brian's parents. You know, they all knew each other, they
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were engaged, it was like a normal family thing, and
Brian's parents just ignored them and blocked their phone number
from the very beginning when they said, Hey, have you
heard from Brian and Gabby? Like, what's been eight days?
We're so worried. So I kind of forgot some of
those deepes of just how awful it was, and so no,
they've had no communication. They've never gotten In apology, they
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settled the lawsuits. They said they would love for there
to be some kind of criminal charges against the Laundry parents,
just based on the fact that there was this massive
nationwide search and all these law enforcement resources, and that
it came out later that the parents likely knew that
she was already dead. But it seems like at this
point the case has just closed and that'll probably never happen.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Did you get an impression of how cooperative Gabby's parents
were with the production of this of this documentary.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Yeah, these things they were in it. So they did
interviews and provided some video and you know, some text
messages with Gabby that they had on their phones and
that kind of thing. So they definitely participated. And I've
worked with them on some other projects before. I mean,
they you know, they pick and shoot which ones they
want to do. There's obviously a lot of interest in
the case, but I think they, you know, they want
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to get the word out. It's interesting every time I
interview them, they're always at the end like, okay, well,
you know the routine, like make sure you be have
the domestic violence hotline, which by the way, is the
one eight hundred and seventy nine nine safe. They're like please,
they just push. I think that's why they want the
story to keep getting out there. They just want to
make sure, you know, other women don't fall victim to
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the same kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That I think is a question I've never heard them
answer explicitly. Did they believe that there was abuse in
the relationship before before it became obvious.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Not any physical abuse and not like overt emotional abuse
though they looking back now and you know though they
were just you know, they didn't have any experience with
domestic violence in their families, so they didn't know what
to look for. Then, now that they've become experts through
their foundation, they see the signs. I mean, you know,
the Gabby was pulling away from them, and you know
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even the way that Brian was acting and trying to
control her and er, you know, farther and farther away
from your old friends and that kind of thing. So
in the moment, not so much, but looking back now
they definitely see that something was going on.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, all right, Brian, thank you for your time. We'll
be watching that interview tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You bet Brian Inton from News Nation again. He's going
to be a guest hosting tonight for Cuomo at five
o'clock Pacific time. You can leave us a message on
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on the app, there's a little button that's got a
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quick message. Tell us what's your what is your favorite
bumper sticker that you're seeing while you're driving around. Drones
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are all over the place. Drones. Some are great, some
are evil. Some are used in war, some are used
in peace, and doctors and hospitals are now looking to
drones to deliver things drugs, supplies, even organs.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The most high profile story we've seen about drones in
the last say month obviously the moron who ended up
flying a drone into one of the super Scooper airplanes
off the coast here, but also the drone that allegedly
hit Chernobyle light last week and the containment dome. Those
are those are some bad drone stories, but hospitals and
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doctors are increasingly looking at the use of drones to
deliver things like medications, lab tests, even supplies to patients
who are being treated at home. Some are even said
to be testing drones that would be used to deliver
organs for transplant more quickly and cheaply, and in some cities,
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a nine to one to one call today could set
off a drone carrying a defibrillator or narcan or a
tourniquet to the scene of emergency ahead of the paramedics
that get there. An interesting study from a consulting from
last year said the global value of goods delivered by
drones could row to more than sixty five billion over
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the over the next decade from about two hundred and
fifty one million last year, and a lot of benefits
are expected.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
In the healthcare industry.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Some doctors are saying that the drones could be used
to speed up and reduce the craw of the cost
of sensitive medical items like lab samples, the super fragile
lab samples. I don't think you can get any more
valuable than organs for transplant, and the speed when it
comes to organs themselves is incredibly important because the speed
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of getting an organ out of a patient into a
new patient, it becomes less viable if they're held up
in traffic, or if they are on an airplane airline
flight delay and they can't arrive in a timely manner.
Guy who is the professor and vice chair I should
say a doctor. He's not just a guy. Doctor who's
a professor and a vice chair of surgery and a
director of Innovation at the Medical University of South Carolina
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is trying to conduct a large clinical trial to study
the safety and efficacy of using drones to carry organs
at a commercial scale. I mean imagine a place like
LA may not be the best example, but I mean
you've got dozens of hospitals and many of them do
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the organ transplant or at least organ recovery, depending on
what kind of hospital it is, depending on what kind
of units they have. You can have somebody donate organs
and there is almost always full time staff. They're ready
to take it and get it to where it needs
to go. If you were able to do that, say
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north Ridge Hospital has a liver and they want to
transplant it to UC I'm sorry, transfer it to UCLA
or USC something like that. It would take minutes, depending
on how they're able to use this drone, minutes to
get it there, as opposed to an hour and a
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half in LA traffic, even with lights and sirens, which
I don't know what they do with the organ transplants necessarily,
but those types of things are the things that doctors
and hospitals are looking at. Delivering the drugs, delivering the supplies,
delivering organs. And imagine if this was if this was
used on a large scale for emergency response. Think of
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the hurricane that rolls through North Carolina, the fires that
roll through southern California. If you're able to take in
emergency supplies with drones when you cannot use helicopters, trucks, airplanes, whatever,
there was a drone delivery of a kidney for transplant
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in a project at the University of Maryland's Medical Center
five years ago. Six years ago, and that same professor
from University of South Carolina created a technology platform that
would connect the surge, the hospitals and the organs and
provided them away to track and monitor the health of
the organ in real time during transport. He said, this
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was its infrastructure that would be absolutely necessary if these
drones are to become part of a larger scale transport system.
The greater visibility of not only the location, but the
status of that organ, making sure that it arrives on
time and the condition. All of that advantageous for transplant
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because every minute that goes by, there's some damage to
the organ. It's not part of a living body. There
is always going to be some amount of damage to
the new organ the well, I guess it's the old
organ going into the new body. Even during the pandemic,
some hospitals pharmacies were experimenting with drones to deliver things
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like COVID tests prescriptions as demand for the contact lists
delivery drew, and now they're looking at drone delivery projects
expanding mass General Brigham in Boss working with the drone
operator to test the safety and effectiveness of a medical
drone delivery program. Most of those would be for an
at home care program. A patient would receive hospital level
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care in their own home, but they wouldn't need to
be in the hospital. They obviously have healthcare providers coming
into their house, but with the equipment that's delivered to
them via drone. That program still in the proof of
concept phase, but there's been a range of potential use
cases urgent on demand delivery of advanced medical supplies, things
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like IV medications, AEDs, collection of blood and urine samples.
They couldn't be analyzed at home. One of the issues
when both my parents were on hospice was or before
they went on hospice, but when they were in home,
there were consistent tests that would happen. The nurse would
come out and draw some blood and they'd take it
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to the lab a couple of week, every week, every
couple of days and get those tests back.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But there was an issue because the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Nurse also had other stops to go to and if
they timed it wrong, the labs were going to be
all screwed up because the condition of the blood was bad.
If you were to be able to just take a
blood sample, immediately stick it into a drone and have
that thing fly off to the lab, you don't have
to wait for all of the other stops that that
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nurse is going on before they get the blood to
the lab. Obviously, there are some public safety issues here.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You can't just have.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All kinds of drones flying around as we saw in
the fires. You'd have to come up with the air
traffic corridors as to how high they fly, make sure
that they're not in the airspace of airliners coming into
burbank or smaller planes coming into van eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But you could make it happen.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And these autonomous drones, once they're programmed with where they
need to go, maybe this is the future of getting
that stuff around where it needs to go and do
it quickly and safely. Swamp watch when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, Gary, you're doing great playing fellow today. I've got
a couple on my car. Actually one of them is
a friend of mine, name of Bill Bond's company, and
it says my child was inmate of the month at
the local county jail. And then have another one with
Jesus on it and it says I saw that we
need to talk. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
By we're taking your talkbacks of your of your best
your best bumper stickers. And like I said, Amy a second.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I really enjoyed your little chat there about your parents,
me and myself. My mother passed away at twenty fifteen,
and you will think about them every day. It's just
something that doesn't go away. You could probably be ninety
years of age if you'll think about your parents. Have
a great one there.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you. We were talking about bumper stickers.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's sorry, Dell in your favorite bumper stickers or license plateholders.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'll take either one of them.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So here we are a month, month and a couple
of weeks after the fires, the Palisades fire and the
Eaten fires, and Karen bask got a lot of criticism
for the way that it has been handled since then.
And one of the issues was where was she when
the fire started in the first place. We all knew,
We all talked about the particularly dangerous red flag fire
(01:38):
situation that existed. We knew that we hadn't seen significant
rain in months. Remember I think since May there had
been one hundredths of an inch of rain. This was
a disaster waiting to happen. And there were criticisms that
she was not in town because remember she was in
Africa to go see an inauguration of all things, and
(02:02):
couldn't cancel the trip or couldn't come back. NBC's Conan
Nolan was able to talk to her Thursday of last week,
and this is important. He was talking to her specifically
about storm prep because, by the way, this is another
weather related event, the storm, the rain that came through
on Thursday. Is the city going to be prepared for it?
Because the track record for preparation is not great. And
(02:24):
he said to her, you've gotten criticism for leaving the city,
the state, and the country before the January seventh fires
broke out.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I respect that trip was a mistake.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah, absolutely, there is no question about that.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
And you spoke of your colleagues. You've had a lot
of criticism. We saw Rick Caruso, the man you defeated
in the race, but you also had Rocanna, a Democratic
congressman from well respected from Silicon Valley. He didn't interview.
He says, hey, you know, Bob Iger, the president of Disney,
would make a great mayor even now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you take that personally?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
And you know what, I am focused on one thing
and one thing only, and that is to make sure
that our city is able to recover and rebuild and
that all of those individuals that lived in the Palisades
can go home. That's my focus, that's my mission, and
that's what I'm going.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
To do every day.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now she does have to, she's got to wear this.
She knows that that was a mistake. Everybody on her
staff knows that was a mistake. Indefensible in terms of
explaining how the fire apparat high in the state of California.
We're all paying attention to southern California that day. Now,
(03:38):
she had no way of knowing that there was going
to be a disaster of this magnitude, but she knew
that it was a possibility, and it was amazing that
she was gone until the eighth. I mean she once
this broke out, got back on the plane and was
able to come back to La by about eleven o'clock
on the eighth, while the fires were still raging. In
(03:59):
the wake of the fire. By the way, State Farm
Insurance asked for an emergency premium increase of twenty two
percent for an average California homeowner. Now, Ricardo Lara, the
insurance commissioner for the state of California, has denied the request,
specifically because he says he wants to get more information.
He has been pushing insurance companies to write policies in
(04:21):
our state again despite the fact that we've seen increasing
wildfire risk. Some of them, including State Farm, have said
that they're not going to renew some policies in some
areas because of the risk. In a letter to State
Farm executives, Ricardo Lara, the commissioner, said that he needs
more information before he'd be able to approve any sort
of increase and has asked them again, not to the
(04:42):
point of demanding yet, but he has asked them to
appear before him in person next week. I think it's
probably next Wednesday at the insurance Department's office in Oakland
answer questions. He says that this would be an informal conference.
State Farm says it as to seriously consider its options
within the California insurance market going forward. There's a possibility
(05:05):
they just pull out, which they can do. Not quite
sure how the state's going to force them to stay
in California at least, maybe not cancel the current policies,
but maybe not.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Maybe State Farm doesn't open any new ones.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So the company last week was asking for a rate
increase averaged about twenty two percent for homeowners, fifteen percent
for renters, and a whopping thirty eight percent for condo owners,
because it says it's already paid out a billion dollars
in claims from the Eating Fire and the palis Ades
Fire already and to pay out significantly more, and it
(05:40):
wants to be able to raise premium starting in May.
Add to that the fact that the California Fair Program
that sort of last chance insurance for homeowners when it
comes to fires, is already out of money and is
going to ask insurance companies to foot another billion dollars
at least into the fund since that's how it's funded
by the insurance companies. Guess who gets to pay all
(06:02):
of that? Yeah, everybody else. Well, crews are trying to
remove the hundreds of thousands of tons probably of hazardous
materials because of the Eaten fire and Altadena and Palisades
fire over in the Pacific Palisades. Now we're trying to
figure out how the fires have impacted the ocean. And
(06:26):
you'd think the Palisades fire obviously has a more direct
connection because it is, you know, across pch from the ocean,
and there were plenty of homes right there on the
beach in fact, that burned. And the homes, the businesses,
the cars, the electronics, the stuff turns everyday items into hazardous,
(06:51):
hazardous ash past asides as best as plastics, led, heavy
metals and all of that, and a lot of that's
going to end up in the ocean, whether you wanted
to or not. A lot of that is that's the
final ending place for some of that runoff. The fire
debris and the toxic ash could make water unsafe for
(07:12):
surfers and swimmers, obviously, especially after the rainfall, and we
will see more the trash the other hazards that are
making their way into the ocean. Longer term, there's a
concern about how urban contaminants would affect the food supply.
Has there ever been a disaster like that where that
(07:33):
many different kinds of toxic chemicals make their way into
the ocean? Yeah, oil spills one thing. Right, If an
anchor drags along and cracks open a pipeline down on Huntington,
there's one specific pollutant and that is the oil. In
(07:54):
this case, Like I said, you're talking about pesticides and
leads and plastics and asbestos. One of the concerns for
the ocean water contamination is that smoke and ash settle
at sea, and the way that the winds were blowing
those few days from January seventh until the fires were
(08:16):
put out was basically from the northeast to the southwest,
so the smoke and the ash would go over the
ocean and settle there. Scientists that were on board a
research vessel during the fires detected ash and waste on
the water as far as one hundred miles offshore, things
(08:36):
like twigs and shard. They said the smell was similar
to what you smell when electronics burn, and not like
a nice camfire that camp fire that is just wood.
Runoff from the rains are also a big concern. So
the U SEE San Diego scripts Institute of Oceanography is
(09:00):
dealing with this and trying to figure out rainfall is
going to pick up contaminants and trash obviously while flushing
cowards the sea, the drains, the rivers, the creeks and
everything that eventually end up in the ocean, and that
runoff is what could contain a lot of the nitrogen
and the phosphate that end up in the ash of
the burn material that goes into the water. You know,
(09:20):
phosphate nitrogen aren't necessarily awful because they're naturally occurring. It's
those heavy metals which are given off when you burn
different types of fuel. The soil and the burnscarred burnscar
is obviously less able to absorb the rainfall. That's why
we were causing that's why we were calling for everybody
to be careful last week when those rains came in,
(09:43):
so La County has set up thousands of feet of
concrete barriers and the silt socks and the sand bags
and ever everything else to prevent debris from reaching the beaches,
but they're not going to be able to prevent all
of it. Beyond the usual samples, State water officials and
other are testing for total and dissolved metals, things like arsenic, lead, aluminum,
(10:05):
volatile organic compounds. They're also looking for microplastics polycyclic aromatic
hydrocarbons or PAHs that are not good for us and
for aquatic life, and also the polychlorinated by phenols the PCBs.
That's a group of chemicals, man made chemicals that are
shown to cause cancer and animals and other serious health effects.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's going to be a wattle.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's going to be a while before they figure out
exactly the extent of this, and County public health officials
have said the chemical tests of water samples last month
didn't raise any health concerns, so they actually downgraded one
beach closure to an ocean water advisory. They're still telling
people you should probably stay out of water, but they
haven't closed the beaches. Things like forest fires are obviously
(10:55):
naturally occurring. They can actually deposit things like iron nitrogen
into the ocean ecosystem that actually helps the growth of
stuff like fido plankton that could create this positive cascading
effect across the ecosystem. It's the potentially toxic ash from
not forest, from homes and cars and other things that burned.
(11:18):
That's what everybody is concerned of concerned about in terms
of the ongoing potential damage.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
To the oceans from the fires.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
In a couple of minutes, we're going to talk with
Brian Enton, a reporter for News Nation.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You remember the story about Gabby Patino.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Of course, Gabby Potito was the woman who was killed
by her boyfriend, Brian Laundry on this cross country trip.
The video showed them being stopped by cops and she
looked like she was having trouble, but the cops didn't
pin it on him just yet. She eventually ended up
(11:54):
dead and he killed her and left her body in
a in the forest out there and killed himself. Well,
there's a new documentary that's coming out. Brian Entton's going
to join us and talk about that. We're also talking
about the Best Bumper, Sticky Marney.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
This is Stacy from Huntington Beach. I was behind at
Tesla the other day and now on the back and said,
I bought this car before I found out that Elon
Musk was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I thought that was pretty funny. All right, what's your
favorite bumper sticker?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
If you're driving around today and you see one, let
us know what it is or and I very magnanimously
will allow license plate holders as well, because they can
be entertaining a bunch of stories that we are following.
Big storms rolled through the South and the Southeast this weekend.
We saw a death toll of at least eleven as
(12:43):
this massive storm system pounded the area. Most of the
deaths occurred in Kentucky. They said ten people died. Severe
storms came during flash flood emergencies from places like Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Virginia on Saturday and then into yesterday. Still another sixty
seven peep million people under winter weather alerts as the
storm made its way through Georgia and Alabama and Mississippi.
(13:06):
We're also going to see yet another polar vortex coming
in today. About sixty million people from montanaa, Maine, and
as far south as Oklahoma could see sub zero temperatures.
We will during Swamp Watch at the top of the
hour get into a little bit more about what's going
on the latest today in discussions in Saudi Arabia between
the United States and Russia trying to end some somehow
(13:29):
end the conflict where Russia invaded Ukraine. Well, if you
remember the story of Gabby Petito, she and her boyfriend
Brian Laundry went on a road trip across America a
few years ago. He eventually killed her. There is a
new documentary out part of the American Murder series on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Gabby and Brian seemed like a loving couple talking about
you baby Berne hut oh, but behind the scenes they
would get into argument snop.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Turn it next to you.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The happiest people on social media usually have the darkest skeletons.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
In their closet.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Now went there was a lot that went into this
because Brian Laundry's parents, it appears, tried to cover up
what was going on with their son, who they knew
was a complete a hole. And this new three part
documentary series on Netflix, for the first time Gabby's parents
have sat down for a face to face interview and
they did so with Brian Enton, who is with News
(14:29):
Nation by the way, hosting for Chris Cuomo tonight five
o'clock here on the West Coast. Brian, thanks for taking
time for us today.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
This has got to be This is probably a tough interview, right,
I mean talking to parents who lost a young daughter
like this under these circumstances.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yeah, it's so sad. I covered the story really extensively
three and a half years ago when she went missing
and everything unfolded with her fiance. Brian Laundry and I
had interviewed the parents a couple times, but I hadn't
seen them in a while, and we did the interview
on Friday, And yeah, it's emotional. I mean, they're still
really emotional about the whole thing. Just wonderful people who
(15:11):
have been through so much and are trying to sort of,
you know, deal with the pain by trying to help
other people. They've got something called the Gaby Potito Foundation
where they try to help other victims of domestic violence
and missing people and are still trying to just sort
through their own pain from the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, yeah, that's kind of a question.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I would have for them, and maybe you did ask
them specifically, how do you go forward after this? I mean,
I have a daughter that's about that age, and it
would be I mean, it's inconceivable that there is a
future after losing somebody in a situation like that. How
did they do that?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
And I think with a lot of people who lose
a loved one or they have a loved one who's murdered,
you know, they want justice. There's a trial that unfortunately
couldn't happen for them because Brian Laundry, who killed Gabby Petito,
you know, her fiance, took his own life behind a note,
you know, admitting that he did it. They went after
his parents. There was a civil lawsuit that was long
and drawn out and there are all sorts of depositions,
(16:12):
and it came out through that that Brian Laundry's parents
knew something was going on. They knew that quote Gabby
was gone. They never admitted to knowing that she was murdered.
But from the very beginning they wouldn't cooperate with police.
They hired a lawyer right away, wanted everything to go
through their lawyer. I was out there covering it at
(16:33):
their house at the time, and it was very bizarre
because when when Gaby went missing and then Brian Laundry
was also missing at one point, like his parents would't
even come out of the house, which from the beginning
just was very unusual and you could kind of tell
that there was something strange going on. So I think
they felt like they got some justice through that process
of of suing the Laundry parents and some of the
(16:55):
truth coming out through that. But you know, they told
me like, there is no closure. You know you always
hear in movies and on TV shows, though the closure.
They're like, there really is no closure when you lose
a daughter. And I think all they can really do
now is focus on their foundation really and how they
can help other people.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
What is there any current relationship between them and the Laundries,
And I don't mean relationship. It sounds like a positive thing,
but do they have they ever been in contact outside
of court?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
No, and they've never apologized, They've never They had to
be in the same room at one point during the deposition,
which I know is very uncomfortable for them, But I mean,
you think back and just watching the documentary reminded me
of all of our coverage when it was happening. I
mean when Gaby went missing. They went on the craft
country road trip, and Gaby went missing, they started texting
Brian's parents. You know, they all knew each other, they
(17:45):
were engaged, it was like a normal family thing, and
Brian's parents just ignored them and blocked their phone number
from the very beginning when they said, Hey, have you
heard from Brian and Gabby? Like, what's been eight days?
We're so worried. So I kind of forgot some of
those deepes of just how awful it was, and so no,
they've had no communication. They've never gotten In apology, they
(18:08):
settled the lawsuits. They said they would love for there
to be some kind of criminal charges against the Laundry parents,
just based on the fact that there was this massive
nationwide search and all these law enforcement resources, and that
it came out later that the parents likely knew that
she was already dead. But it seems like at this
point the case has just closed and that'll probably never happen.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Did you get an impression of how cooperative Gabby's parents
were with the production of this of this documentary.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Yeah, these things they were in it. So they did
interviews and provided some video and you know, some text
messages with Gabby that they had on their phones and
that kind of thing. So they definitely participated. And I've
worked with them on some other projects before. I mean,
they you know, they pick and shoot which ones they
want to do. There's obviously a lot of interest in
the case, but I think they, you know, they want
(18:58):
to get the word out. It's interesting every time I
interview them, they're always at the end like, okay, well,
you know the routine, like make sure you be have
the domestic violence hotline, which by the way, is the
one eight hundred and seventy nine nine safe. They're like please,
they just push. I think that's why they want the
story to keep getting out there. They just want to
make sure, you know, other women don't fall victim to
(19:18):
the same kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That I think is a question I've never heard them
answer explicitly. Did they believe that there was abuse in
the relationship before before it became obvious.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Not any physical abuse and not like overt emotional abuse
though they looking back now and you know though they
were just you know, they didn't have any experience with
domestic violence in their families, so they didn't know what
to look for. Then, now that they've become experts through
their foundation, they see the signs. I mean, you know,
the Gabby was pulling away from them, and you know
(19:56):
even the way that Brian was acting and trying to
control her and er, you know, farther and farther away
from your old friends and that kind of thing. So
in the moment, not so much, but looking back now
they definitely see that something was going on.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, all right, Brian, thank you for your time. We'll
be watching that interview tonight.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You bet Brian Inton from News Nation again. He's going
to be a guest hosting tonight for Cuomo at five
o'clock Pacific time. You can leave us a message on
the talkback feature on the iHeart app. When you're listening
on the app, there's a little button that's got a
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quick message. Tell us what's your what is your favorite
bumper sticker that you're seeing while you're driving around. Drones
(20:40):
are all over the place. Drones. Some are great, some
are evil. Some are used in war, some are used
in peace, and doctors and hospitals are now looking to
drones to deliver things drugs, supplies, even organs.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The most high profile story we've seen about drones in
the last say month obviously the moron who ended up
flying a drone into one of the super Scooper airplanes
off the coast here, but also the drone that allegedly
hit Chernobyle light last week and the containment dome. Those
are those are some bad drone stories, but hospitals and
(21:19):
doctors are increasingly looking at the use of drones to
deliver things like medications, lab tests, even supplies to patients
who are being treated at home. Some are even said
to be testing drones that would be used to deliver
organs for transplant more quickly and cheaply, and in some cities,
(21:42):
a nine to one to one call today could set
off a drone carrying a defibrillator or narcan or a
tourniquet to the scene of emergency ahead of the paramedics
that get there. An interesting study from a consulting from
last year said the global value of goods delivered by
drones could row to more than sixty five billion over
(22:03):
the over the next decade from about two hundred and
fifty one million last year, and a lot of benefits
are expected.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
In the healthcare industry.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Some doctors are saying that the drones could be used
to speed up and reduce the craw of the cost
of sensitive medical items like lab samples, the super fragile
lab samples. I don't think you can get any more
valuable than organs for transplant, and the speed when it
comes to organs themselves is incredibly important because the speed
(22:36):
of getting an organ out of a patient into a
new patient, it becomes less viable if they're held up
in traffic, or if they are on an airplane airline
flight delay and they can't arrive in a timely manner.
Guy who is the professor and vice chair I should
say a doctor. He's not just a guy. Doctor who's
a professor and a vice chair of surgery and a
director of Innovation at the Medical University of South Carolina
(22:58):
is trying to conduct a large clinical trial to study
the safety and efficacy of using drones to carry organs
at a commercial scale. I mean imagine a place like
LA may not be the best example, but I mean
you've got dozens of hospitals and many of them do
(23:19):
the organ transplant or at least organ recovery, depending on
what kind of hospital it is, depending on what kind
of units they have. You can have somebody donate organs
and there is almost always full time staff. They're ready
to take it and get it to where it needs
to go. If you were able to do that, say
(23:42):
north Ridge Hospital has a liver and they want to
transplant it to UC I'm sorry, transfer it to UCLA
or USC something like that. It would take minutes, depending
on how they're able to use this drone, minutes to
get it there, as opposed to an hour and a
(24:04):
half in LA traffic, even with lights and sirens, which
I don't know what they do with the organ transplants necessarily,
but those types of things are the things that doctors
and hospitals are looking at. Delivering the drugs, delivering the supplies,
delivering organs. And imagine if this was if this was
used on a large scale for emergency response. Think of
(24:28):
the hurricane that rolls through North Carolina, the fires that
roll through southern California. If you're able to take in
emergency supplies with drones when you cannot use helicopters, trucks, airplanes, whatever,
there was a drone delivery of a kidney for transplant
(24:48):
in a project at the University of Maryland's Medical Center
five years ago. Six years ago, and that same professor
from University of South Carolina created a technology platform that
would connect the surge, the hospitals and the organs and
provided them away to track and monitor the health of
the organ in real time during transport. He said, this
(25:08):
was its infrastructure that would be absolutely necessary if these
drones are to become part of a larger scale transport system.
The greater visibility of not only the location, but the
status of that organ, making sure that it arrives on
time and the condition. All of that advantageous for transplant
(25:29):
because every minute that goes by, there's some damage to
the organ. It's not part of a living body. There
is always going to be some amount of damage to
the new organ the well, I guess it's the old
organ going into the new body. Even during the pandemic,
some hospitals pharmacies were experimenting with drones to deliver things
(25:49):
like COVID tests prescriptions as demand for the contact lists
delivery drew, and now they're looking at drone delivery projects
expanding mass General Brigham in Boss working with the drone
operator to test the safety and effectiveness of a medical
drone delivery program. Most of those would be for an
at home care program. A patient would receive hospital level
(26:12):
care in their own home, but they wouldn't need to
be in the hospital. They obviously have healthcare providers coming
into their house, but with the equipment that's delivered to
them via drone. That program still in the proof of
concept phase, but there's been a range of potential use
cases urgent on demand delivery of advanced medical supplies, things
(26:34):
like IV medications, AEDs, collection of blood and urine samples.
They couldn't be analyzed at home. One of the issues
when both my parents were on hospice was or before
they went on hospice, but when they were in home,
there were consistent tests that would happen. The nurse would
come out and draw some blood and they'd take it
(26:56):
to the lab a couple of week, every week, every
couple of days and get those tests back.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But there was an issue because the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Nurse also had other stops to go to and if
they timed it wrong, the labs were going to be
all screwed up because the condition of the blood was bad.
If you were to be able to just take a
blood sample, immediately stick it into a drone and have
that thing fly off to the lab, you don't have
to wait for all of the other stops that that
(27:27):
nurse is going on before they get the blood to
the lab. Obviously, there are some public safety issues here.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You can't just have.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
All kinds of drones flying around as we saw in
the fires. You'd have to come up with the air
traffic corridors as to how high they fly, make sure
that they're not in the airspace of airliners coming into
burbank or smaller planes coming into van eyes.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But you could make it happen.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And these autonomous drones, once they're programmed with where they
need to go, maybe this is the future of getting
that stuff around where it needs to go and do
it quickly and safely. Swamp watch when we come back.
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