February 17, 2025 • 31 mins
Gary has the latest stories going on in Washington D.C. including peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
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It's time for swampoint.
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I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
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Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
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The other side never quits.
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So what I'm not going anywhere?
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So that now you train the squat.
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I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know, mervans have always been gone at present, they're
not stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Why have the people voted for you? With na swamp watch,
they're all countera. Well, let's start with something.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Over the weekend, just because it was was making its
way around social media, you may have seen that President
Trump on truth social took a line it looks like
from It's supposed to be a quote by Napoleon, but
the closest resemblance to it is a Rod Steiger line
that he uttered while he was playing Napoleon in the
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old movie Waterlo Waterloo, Trump wrote, he who saves this
country does not violate any law. The official White House
account on Twitter also shared the message, and the quote
from a president with his own ambitions appeared to come
from that movie called Waterloo with the Rod Steiger as Napoleon.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I did not you shirt the crown. I found it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
In the Gutta and I I picked it up with
my sword, with my sword, and it.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Was the people, Alexis. The people will put it on
my head.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
He who saves a nation.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Violates no law.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now everybody's trying to say that Trump is trying to
be Napoleon. Trump's firings of the members of independent agencies
and boards has prompted a string of legal fights. We
could see the first real challenge of these ongoing firings
taken to the Supreme Court to reconsider, potentially overturn a
ninety year old decision that shields certain officials, certain executive
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branch officials from being removed after a political shift in
the White House. So we know that Trump fired the
heads of the National Labor Relations Board, the Merit Systems
Protection Board, as well as the Director of Office of
Government Ethics and the Special Council who oversees the office
that investigates the whistleblower complaints. Some of those officials have
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said that Trump violates federal laws passed by Congress that
created those agencies that limited the president to removing their
members only for cause in cases of neglect or do
neglect of duty, or of malfeasance. Now, specifically, Hampton Dellinger
is the head of the Office of Special Counsel. This
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is not special counsels appointed by the Justice Department. It's
not Jack Smith, it's not those guys. It's called the
head of the Office of Special Counsel. This agency is
charged with safeguarding government employee whistleblowers and enforcing certain laws,
specifically ethics laws. And he had actually been fired in
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a one sentence email back on February seventh, but there
was no reason for firing him, at least not in
that email. And his argument was he has to be
told of inefficiency, neglect, or of malfeasance in office, and
that that never happened.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So he sued.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Judge Amy Burma Jackson of the DC District Court allowed
him to keep his job for a couple of weeks
while she enters a preliminary or she considers whether to
enter into a preliminary injunction. The temporary injunction is usually
not appealable. This preliminary injunction would be and to short
circuit that, the Trump team went to the Supreme Court
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yesterday trying to ask for the power to fire those officials.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Not clear exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I know that there's a lot of a lot of
people ring in their hands that say that the sixth
conservative majority in the Supreme Court means they'll go for Trump.
But we've seen plenty of rulings in the last few
years since it became that six to three ideological makeup,
where the rulings have gone completely against the way that
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you think they would break down. A lot of five
to four decisions with sort of mixed groupings ideologically in
those that had the opinion and those that had the
dissent in the court. We will continue to see news
coming through sort of filtered through Washington d C. About
the ongoing talk now that they have started between Russia
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and the United States concerning Ukraine. Now right now it's
just US and Russia. That doesn't make Vladimir Zelenski happy,
But at least the Trump administration by way of Marco Rubio,
the new Secretary of State. They are trying to figure
out what Russia wants, what it will take for them
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to come to the table and talk about ceasefire. The
hope is that they'll turn around and ask Ukraine the
same things. Although we kind of know what Ukraine wants.
Ukraine wants to join NATO, they want to know that
the other countries in Europe will continue to defend it
against Russian aggression. To be honest, I just on our side,
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on the United States side, nobody appears to be up
for that. Pete Hegseth said that's unlikely. President Trump has
said that that's unlikely. Jd Vance said that's unlikely. Although
all of them have said there's nothing that's off the table,
but they've already given up that negotiating point. There are
land disputes that need to be worked out. Russia has
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annexed regions in eastern Ukraine. Finger quotes annexed that may
be property that Ukraine has to give up. Ukraine may
have to withdraw from the Kersk region, and then Russia
potentially sees some of Crimea given back to Ukraine, possibly
the European Union would be expected to fund a lot
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of the reconstruction and as far as a peacekeeping force,
if there is such a thing that's required in the ceasefire,
it's going to be made up mostly of Europeanian of Europeans.
Ker Starmer, the British Prime Minister, had suggested that British
troops could be on the ground and would be glad
to help, although they don't really have a great position
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right now. Their military has been hurting in terms of
sheer numbers, and then the other sidelight issue to all
of this is what's in it for the United States.
There is a potential for the Ukrainian government to provide
America with some of the critical minerals that they are
sitting on in exchange for continued aid. Maybe that's just
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a sales pipeline where we take some of those minerals,
we write a few checks, and we continue to at
least fund what is going forward in terms of their
ability to self defend. But there's a lot of that
stuff that's still going on. A lot of those talks
are still going on. Like I said, in Russia, Saudi Arabia,
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I'm sorry in Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United States
are supposed to meet for the first time Tomorrow. Secretary
of State Marco Rubio meets with his counterpart on the
Russian side, sergay Lavrov, for what will be the first.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Round of discussions. In all of this, a.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Couple of stories that we are following internationally. Egypt is
looking at a plan to rebuild Gaza without forcing Palestinians
out of Gaza. That would counter President Trump's proposal which
was moved everybody out and start over. The state run
newspaper in Egypt said. The proposal calls for establishing secure
areas within Gaza where Palestinians could live initially, while Egyptian
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and international construction firms remove and rehabilitate the infrastructure there. Well,
it's been about three years of living under constant threat
of Russian airstrikes, and Ukrainians could see the end of
the war soon, but they're afraid that it's going to
come with unfavorable terms.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I mentioned.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
American and Russian officials are meeting tomorrow in Saudi Arabia
discussing ways to end the war, but Kiev won't be
participating at least yet, and some Ukrainians are worried that
they're going to be sidelined in this whole process. I
mentioned this week starts spring training. The first spring training
game of twenty twenty five is going to be Thursday
between the Cubs and the Dodgers. Down the road a
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little bit, one of baseball's best players is going to
switch things up. Angels outfielder. I use that word intentionally.
Mike Trout said he's going to switch positions. He said
he just kind of threw everything on the table when
he was talking with team officials as in what's best
for him body wise to stay on the field. He said,
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the conclusion is, I'm going to go to right field.
He's been a career center fielder since his major league
debut at the Angels thirteen fourteen years ago. He's played
right field in that entire time, fourteen years. He's played
right field just eleven time, sorry, seventeen times. So looks
like that's where he's going to be.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
President Trump pardoned a bunch of the January sixth rioters.
Some defendants are now looking to have other charges erased.
For example, a guy named Edward Kelly pardoned despite the
fact that he assaulted police at the US Capitol. But
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he's now fighting in another case because in November a
jury convicted him of conspiring to murder the FBI agents
who investigated him dissipating in January sixth, including evidence that
he had a kill list of targets. He's now saying
that that conviction should be tossed out as well, because
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he believes that the Trump pardon covers offenses related to
events that occurred at or near the Capitol on January sixth.
He says it extends beyond that. Other defendants have been
arguing similarly that they should be absolved of other alleged
crimes like illegal gun possession or you know, child pornography.
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Their argument is those things were discovered during the January
sixth investigation. Dozens of defendants have joined forces on social
media to try to compile and publicize the names of
at least one hundred and twenty four people who had
a hand in their convictions, most of them prosecutors. There
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are a few judges' names in there, and FBI agents,
and the post of names, with about sixty thousand views,
includes pictures and disparaging remarks and demands for accountability. Back
on the twenty seventh of January, prosecutors down in Houston
announced they were looking for Andrew Tacki, a January sixth
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defendant who was being looked for on a charge of
online solicitation of a minor. Now that happened a long
time ago. It was eight years ago that that charge
came out. He had been serving a seventy four month
sentence after pleading guilty to violence at the Capitol. Prosecutors
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said he sprayed police officers with bear spray four separate
times and hit one law enforcement officer with a medal whip.
The Harris County DA's office that had asked federal prison
officials to hold him, but instead he was let out
of a Colorado jail back on January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
After the pardon.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The DA's office said rearresting people like this Andrew Tacki
who were released pending state warrants will require significant resources.
He was eventually tracked down, but just about well it
was the sixth of February at home.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
An' white took them to be found at home. Federal agents.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Others are concerned that there will be some sort of
retaliation for investigating the Capital Riot Department of Justice leaders
have demanded a list of all the agents involved. The
agent sued, saying that it would put them that their
families at risk from the now pardoned and at large
convicted felons. So the federal government temporarily agreed not to
make the list public, and the judge is trying to
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figure out should this be a long term ban. A
district judge said, if this information is released, I think
there's no question that it would put a number of
FBI agents in significant and immediate danger. And like I said,
some of these January sixth people who have been pardoned
are taken it upon themselves to publicize those names. Timothy
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Lewis Hale Cosanelli is a guy from New Jersey served
three years in prison for his role in the January sixth.
He created the post on Twitter that asked fellow defendants
to name their prosecutors. He said, I'd like to see
the judges exposed. One person responded, not sure what you
can do about them, but they probably don't like their
names out there after releasing a bunch of angry bees.
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Another one said take a names and kick an ass.
Another one every time a name would be posted this
Timothy Lewis Hale Quassanelli would write got him. He was
an army reservist at the time that he stormed the Capitol. He,
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they said, was among the first to enter the building
and was ordering others to advance into the building. They
said he made harassing and derogatory statements to police. He
spoke of a coming revolution. Another woman who helped smash
a window with a battering rams shouted through a bullhorn,
added her prosecutor's name to list. She accused the prosecutor
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of telling lies and called for consequences such as prison
time or termination of the allegations as if they are substantiated.
Things like murder plots and illegal gun possession and child pornography.
Those better not be those better not be pardoned as
a result of what the President did. When we rebuild,
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and we will rebuild in the Palisades and the Altadena areas,
there is a new plan that might take flight, and
that is builders permitting their own projects be unheard of
in a place like California, where they've got to have
their fingers and everything. The La Times is out with
the story today about how irreverend bumper stickers have taken
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over La we wanted to know what your what your
favorites were.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We'll talk. We'll play a bunch of them a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Spencer from Fountain Valley. There used to be a car
in my neighborhood when I was younger. The bumper sticker said,
do not tailgate or I'll flick a bigger on your windshield.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Always a classic.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
As we race to rebuild after the fires over in
Pacific Palisades and also in Altadena, there is going to
be a bureaucratic mess that takes place. Even if it
runs as smooth as it ever has, the sheer number
of permits that have to be pulled for the thousands
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of structures that need to be rebuilt would be a problem.
So we're trying to figure out the most creative way
to grease the skids on that, not in a negative way,
but just to make sure that all of it gets built.
Our friend Dean Sharp, host of Home with Dean Shark
on the Weekends here on KFI, has done this, has
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dealt with permits, has had to deal with the bureaucracy
that comes with the building or improving properties that you're on, Dean,
is it a sweater day today?
Speaker 5 (16:02):
It is not a sweater day. I'm inside, I'm in
my studio designing, so things are nice and cozy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's why, Okay, just.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The basics of when I'm rebuilding a house, even if
it was just a single house, single house fire, what
is the permit process for that?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
That's there's a lot to it. There really is a
lot to it. There is. Well, let me just I
don't want to bury the lead. I just want to
start by saying that some of the proposals that are
being forwarded right now by the city council members that
they're considering about this idea of self reporting permitting, you know,
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I'm in favor of it. I think that I've got
there's absolutely no problem with cutting through red tape, especially
at a time like this. It's an idea that's already
proven to work. It's working in a lot of places already,
places like San Diego, San Diego County. City of Bellflower
has been doing this for like ten years now. I
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think it's gonna help. But just understand, streamlining the permit
process is way. It is a much bigger snake to
wrangle than most people think, and so this is not
going to be just a panacea, because there's so much
more that goes into permitting, to your question than simple
simply checking the plans against the building code, which by
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the way, is the easiest part of the entire thing.
And you would think most home owners think, well, that's
the whole thing, right, No, no, it's not. Actually in
my experience, and I do a lot of custom homes,
obviously almost all exclusively custom homes, we get held up
with the city when it comes to the planning department
and zoning requirements and endless zoning ordinances. And let me
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tell you, the Palisades is an area where there are
zoning requirements and ordinances overlapping on top of each other
in multiple ways. So the idea of hey, let's streamline
the permitting process in plan check for just looking at
your plans and asking the question do they comply with
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building codes? That's kind of plan check one oh one.
That does not take very long to do with a
residential home. And so when you even if just a
single house, you just lost your house in a house fire,
everything else, all things being equal, you're going to have
to jump back through the zoning hoops, all the regulations
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that have been laid on top of that, and also
prove that the house that you're planning to build comports
with the building code. But like in the Palisades, you know,
it's like, there's the Palisades Commercial Village Zoning Area, there's
the Neighborhood Specific Plan, there's the Brentwood Palisades Community Plan.
Parts of the Palisades are governed by the Brentwood Pacific
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Palisades Dual Coastal Plan Zone. Other parts are governed by
the Mulholland Specific Parkway Specific Plan. There's the Hillside Ordans,
the relatively new anti mansioning Ordinance. And yes, some Pacific
Palisades homes are subject to the dreaded California Coastal Commission.
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And everything I just mentioned has nothing to do with
whether the plans for the house that you're submitting are
in accordance with the building code. That's just zoning stuff.
And I don't know how to cut through that stuff, honestly. Well,
I mean it takes I don't want to say, a
bigger man than you. It takes a team effort of
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people in the right political position, I think to make
that a priority. Because even Gavin Newsom, for example, Gavin
Newsom has issued an executive order just last week that
would loosen a building permit rule if you recently built
your house and you still have the plans on file,
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I mean within the last I don't know what the
limit was, but let's just say you built a house
in the last four years and you live in the
palais Age and you lost it in that fire. His
executive order would make it simple where you just go,
I've already been approved for all of this stuff. You know,
cuts basically to the front of the line because we've
had everything approved. It's going to take that kind of creativity,
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I think, to get some of that stuff out of
the way. But let me ask you quickly, I don't
know if if you would even envision how this would work.
But one of the things that Rick Caruso had said
was he wants to see AI used for permitting, where
instead of days or weeks to get human eyeballs on
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some of these building plans, you shove them into AI.
They basically tell you whether or not their code compliant
and what changes need to be made, so that within
hours you know and can make your you know your
addendums or make your changes and then get that building
permit process, you know, down five percent of what it
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would have been otherwise. Have you heard much of that
you if you, is that a real thing that exists
or is he kind of pie in the sky so far? Well,
I mean, you know, I don't know if it's a
real thing that exists. That's not something we've experienced thus far.
But then again, you know, two years ago, the amount
of things that AI is involved in has just gone
through the roof, so it's not outside of the realm
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of possibility. And again, I mean know, I don't really
have a problem with it. Why not run it through
an algorithm first and then let it red flag things
and then let a human being look at those red
flags and resolve those things instead of having somebody to
go through and pick through all the numbers and so on.
There's a lot of infrastructure that would have to be
built into that because like when, for instance, in your plans,
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it's not just looking at a plan set. The structural
engineer has to submit along with their plans, they have
to submit their load calculation. So now we're going to
tell a structural engineer that those calculations have to be
put in a particular software format that AI knows how
to read, to double check and so on. That's all
human checked right now. So theoretically sure, and again I
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don't have any problem with it, But still that conversation
gear is still just about building code compliance and has
nothing to do with all of the other things that
we have to wrestle with when we're trying to build
a place, a specific kind of house on a specific
kind of lot anywhere in southern California.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't know if this is right allegory During COVID,
restaurants were allowed to open up sidewalk a dining and
in many places it's still allowed because it turned out
to be fun and popular and it's a good way
for a restaurant to kind of soft expand without buying
new property. Is this a scenario you think where where
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we change permitting because of a disaster.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean that we've seen creep.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Let's use the ninety four northrich earthquake as the last
time that we saw something like this, that we saw
the creep of bureaucracy where everybody gets to pile on
and like you said, you had all those different zoning
groups and boards and everybody's got a piece of the pie.
Is this one of those scenarios where we it kind
of snaps us back into reality and we say we've
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done too much and we are strangling what should be
a pretty healthy construction process here.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, I think so. I think I think it is,
and so I'm hopeful about that. I wish it is
something that we could have accomplished earlier. And honestly, I'll
be just one hundred percent honest if this had only
been an issue with the Alta Dina fire, the Eaten fire,
I don't think we would see this happening the same way.
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The simple fact of the matter is there are a
lot of people with a lot of money and a
lot of influence in the Palisades, and you know, in
the world that we live in, money talks, influence is effective.
And because of that, I think this is probably going
to be a reality and will end up betting fitting
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everybody else. But I think that's the I mean, there
were none of these discussions when the entire city of
Paradise burnt to the ground a few years back. You know,
it is the fact that it has hit a wealthy,
influential area and people with influence. That's okay, fine, let's
let's see it go through and thin out some of
this bureaucratic red tape.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, there's a good point.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
They have all the money, they have, all the power,
they have all the influence. What they don't have is
the patience exactly. That combination is going to be could
be the death knell for some of this permitting progress.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Hey Dean, it's always great to talk to you on
a Monday.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Happy President's Day, you too, Bud, always here to help
all right. Up next, there was a little shake her
over the weekend, little Malibu or I.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Felt both of them.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I know you did.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I took a sleeping pill, okay, because I was very
sleep deprived.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And why are you so sleep deprived?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
It's a long story, but I felt it. I woke
up and that.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Made you even more sleep Well, we'll talk about that. Also,
do not this is specifically for you, Deborah. Do not
go to the Greek island of Santorini. Why because they
are dealing with hundreds of earthquakes. Yeah, you would not
like it. Not comfortable, not a good vacation for you.
Egypt is said to be developing a plan to rebuild
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Gaza without forcing anybody out. That would be different than
President Trump's proposal to depopulate the Gaza strips.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The US would be able to take it over.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The Egyptian officials said they've been discussing this plan with
diplomats from Europe, diplomats from other Arab countries, as well
as ways that they might be able to fund it.
And again, the polar vortex is back. This is a
normal pattern that actually gets stronger in winter and keeps
some of the coldest weather bottled up near the north Pole.
Sometimes it comes down move south. We're going to see
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it again this week, they said. Between Maine and Montana
and as far south as Oklahoma, people could see temperatures
into below freezing for the most part. Couple small earthquakes
hit Malibu Friday and Saturday. First one was a late
Friday night registered at a three point seven, and then
the second quake was about six thirty Saturday morning, measured
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about a three point five struck in roughly the same area.
Some people in Ventura County say that it felt like
a pretty sharp jolt. Some car alarms went off. There
was a third one, but it was way out to
the east of US. The third quake measured about three
point five near the San Jua Sindo Mountains in Riverside County.
That would have been about two in the afternoon on Saturday.
The epicenter near Idlewild, just south of Idlewild, Greece is
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dealing with a series of earthquakes.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They guess.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
They would call it a swarm of earthquakes that have
rattled the island of Santorini and some other minor islands
in the area. It is a volcanic island in the
a GNC. It's been shaken by tens of thousands of
earthquakes if you want to count the smallest ones, but
tens of thousands of them since late January, and everybody,
not everybody, thousands of people have decided they want to
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get out of there, so authorities have banned construction activity
on the island of Santorini. They have shut down schools,
they have told everybody to stay away from the nearby islands. Now,
no major damage has been reported, but scientists have said
that this is unprecedented, even in a place like Greece
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where they do get earthquakes. They've not ruled out bigger
earthquakes coming, saying that these all might be four shocks to.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
A big one.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So they've identified the main faery port now at the
foot of a big long slow and some other sites
across Santorini as weak links, although they have not said
that they couldn't be used in an emergency situation. They
are trying to figure out what to do when they said,
along with a new port in Santorini which is being built,
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there was a decision for setting up an escape port
on part of the island where passenger ferries would be
able to dock in an emergency. So they said that
the earthquakes themselves have kind of slowed the pace over
the last couple of days. Local authorities did extend the
emergency measures for a third week, and they've reiterated calls
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for people to stay away from coastal areas, stay away
from the steep hillsides that might be prone to landslides.
They said that Santorini took its current shape after one
of the largest volcanic eruptions in history, which was about
thirty seven hundred years ago. Seismologists have said that this
latest seismic activity as the results of the tectonic plates
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in the magma and has pushed subsurface layers of the
island upwards in some areas, and they're suggesting that the
big one could still come, even though the last few
days have been a little quieter.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
So don't go to Santorini.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I have been many, many years ago, and it's on
my list to spend more time there.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But not now. Let's wait. Yeah, let's wait until you
know what.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I have the worst luck and so you know what,
if I do go, then for sure the.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Big one's going to hit. Where were you last, Dubai? No,
you was it, Dubai. You were going to go, You're
going to fly through Israel.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Oh, one week to the day that I was going
to Israel. We were going to Israel, Egypt and Jordan.
The Hamas attacked Israel literally on the Saturday. It was
a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We were going very next Saturday. You were going to
go on the fourteenth, Yes, And the attack happened on.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The seventh exactly. And then Dubai, we have the massive flooding.
I can go on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Remind me to get a copy of your track.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Everybody says the opposite place of the exact other side
of the world. We were talking earlier about the bumper stickers.
Coming up at twelve twenty, we'll take some of your
talkbacks about your favorite bumper stickers that you've seen.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hey, Gary, this is Tim and Burbank.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I saw a bumper sticker years ago that has stuck
with me all through the years. I don't know why
it tickled me so much, but it said I can't
see you, so don't pretend you're there.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Kind of an existentialist message or something. I don't know.
It just made me laugh. It's still best have a
great day, all right.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We'll do that coming up at twelve twenty, twelve thirty, sorry,
twelve thirty, we'll go through those bumper stickers. If you've
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's time for swampoint.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
So that now you train the squat.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know, mervans have always been gone at present, they're
not stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Why have the people voted for you? With na swamp watch,
they're all countera. Well, let's start with something.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Over the weekend, just because it was was making its
way around social media, you may have seen that President
Trump on truth social took a line it looks like
from It's supposed to be a quote by Napoleon, but
the closest resemblance to it is a Rod Steiger line
that he uttered while he was playing Napoleon in the
(01:01):
old movie Waterlo Waterloo, Trump wrote, he who saves this
country does not violate any law. The official White House
account on Twitter also shared the message, and the quote
from a president with his own ambitions appeared to come
from that movie called Waterloo with the Rod Steiger as Napoleon.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I did not you shirt the crown. I found it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
In the Gutta and I I picked it up with
my sword, with my sword, and it.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Was the people, Alexis. The people will put it on
my head.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
He who saves a nation.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Violates no law.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now everybody's trying to say that Trump is trying to
be Napoleon. Trump's firings of the members of independent agencies
and boards has prompted a string of legal fights. We
could see the first real challenge of these ongoing firings
taken to the Supreme Court to reconsider, potentially overturn a
ninety year old decision that shields certain officials, certain executive
(02:25):
branch officials from being removed after a political shift in
the White House. So we know that Trump fired the
heads of the National Labor Relations Board, the Merit Systems
Protection Board, as well as the Director of Office of
Government Ethics and the Special Council who oversees the office
that investigates the whistleblower complaints. Some of those officials have
(02:46):
said that Trump violates federal laws passed by Congress that
created those agencies that limited the president to removing their
members only for cause in cases of neglect or do
neglect of duty, or of malfeasance. Now, specifically, Hampton Dellinger
is the head of the Office of Special Counsel. This
(03:08):
is not special counsels appointed by the Justice Department. It's
not Jack Smith, it's not those guys. It's called the
head of the Office of Special Counsel. This agency is
charged with safeguarding government employee whistleblowers and enforcing certain laws,
specifically ethics laws. And he had actually been fired in
(03:31):
a one sentence email back on February seventh, but there
was no reason for firing him, at least not in
that email. And his argument was he has to be
told of inefficiency, neglect, or of malfeasance in office, and
that that never happened.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So he sued.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Judge Amy Burma Jackson of the DC District Court allowed
him to keep his job for a couple of weeks
while she enters a preliminary or she considers whether to
enter into a preliminary injunction. The temporary injunction is usually
not appealable. This preliminary injunction would be and to short
circuit that, the Trump team went to the Supreme Court
(04:11):
yesterday trying to ask for the power to fire those officials.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Not clear exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I know that there's a lot of a lot of
people ring in their hands that say that the sixth
conservative majority in the Supreme Court means they'll go for Trump.
But we've seen plenty of rulings in the last few
years since it became that six to three ideological makeup,
where the rulings have gone completely against the way that
(04:41):
you think they would break down. A lot of five
to four decisions with sort of mixed groupings ideologically in
those that had the opinion and those that had the
dissent in the court. We will continue to see news
coming through sort of filtered through Washington d C. About
the ongoing talk now that they have started between Russia
(05:02):
and the United States concerning Ukraine. Now right now it's
just US and Russia. That doesn't make Vladimir Zelenski happy,
But at least the Trump administration by way of Marco Rubio,
the new Secretary of State. They are trying to figure
out what Russia wants, what it will take for them
(05:24):
to come to the table and talk about ceasefire. The
hope is that they'll turn around and ask Ukraine the
same things. Although we kind of know what Ukraine wants.
Ukraine wants to join NATO, they want to know that
the other countries in Europe will continue to defend it
against Russian aggression. To be honest, I just on our side,
(05:45):
on the United States side, nobody appears to be up
for that. Pete Hegseth said that's unlikely. President Trump has
said that that's unlikely. Jd Vance said that's unlikely. Although
all of them have said there's nothing that's off the table,
but they've already given up that negotiating point. There are
land disputes that need to be worked out. Russia has
(06:08):
annexed regions in eastern Ukraine. Finger quotes annexed that may
be property that Ukraine has to give up. Ukraine may
have to withdraw from the Kersk region, and then Russia
potentially sees some of Crimea given back to Ukraine, possibly
the European Union would be expected to fund a lot
(06:31):
of the reconstruction and as far as a peacekeeping force,
if there is such a thing that's required in the ceasefire,
it's going to be made up mostly of Europeanian of Europeans.
Ker Starmer, the British Prime Minister, had suggested that British
troops could be on the ground and would be glad
to help, although they don't really have a great position
(06:51):
right now. Their military has been hurting in terms of
sheer numbers, and then the other sidelight issue to all
of this is what's in it for the United States.
There is a potential for the Ukrainian government to provide
America with some of the critical minerals that they are
sitting on in exchange for continued aid. Maybe that's just
(07:12):
a sales pipeline where we take some of those minerals,
we write a few checks, and we continue to at
least fund what is going forward in terms of their
ability to self defend. But there's a lot of that
stuff that's still going on. A lot of those talks
are still going on. Like I said, in Russia, Saudi Arabia,
(07:32):
I'm sorry in Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United States
are supposed to meet for the first time Tomorrow. Secretary
of State Marco Rubio meets with his counterpart on the
Russian side, sergay Lavrov, for what will be the first.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Round of discussions. In all of this, a.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Couple of stories that we are following internationally. Egypt is
looking at a plan to rebuild Gaza without forcing Palestinians
out of Gaza. That would counter President Trump's proposal which
was moved everybody out and start over. The state run
newspaper in Egypt said. The proposal calls for establishing secure
areas within Gaza where Palestinians could live initially, while Egyptian
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and international construction firms remove and rehabilitate the infrastructure there. Well,
it's been about three years of living under constant threat
of Russian airstrikes, and Ukrainians could see the end of
the war soon, but they're afraid that it's going to
come with unfavorable terms.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I mentioned.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
American and Russian officials are meeting tomorrow in Saudi Arabia
discussing ways to end the war, but Kiev won't be
participating at least yet, and some Ukrainians are worried that
they're going to be sidelined in this whole process. I
mentioned this week starts spring training. The first spring training
game of twenty twenty five is going to be Thursday
between the Cubs and the Dodgers. Down the road a
(08:49):
little bit, one of baseball's best players is going to
switch things up. Angels outfielder. I use that word intentionally.
Mike Trout said he's going to switch positions. He said
he just kind of threw everything on the table when
he was talking with team officials as in what's best
for him body wise to stay on the field. He said,
(09:10):
the conclusion is, I'm going to go to right field.
He's been a career center fielder since his major league
debut at the Angels thirteen fourteen years ago. He's played
right field in that entire time, fourteen years. He's played
right field just eleven time, sorry, seventeen times. So looks
like that's where he's going to be.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
President Trump pardoned a bunch of the January sixth rioters.
Some defendants are now looking to have other charges erased.
For example, a guy named Edward Kelly pardoned despite the
fact that he assaulted police at the US Capitol. But
(09:50):
he's now fighting in another case because in November a
jury convicted him of conspiring to murder the FBI agents
who investigated him dissipating in January sixth, including evidence that
he had a kill list of targets. He's now saying
that that conviction should be tossed out as well, because
(10:11):
he believes that the Trump pardon covers offenses related to
events that occurred at or near the Capitol on January sixth.
He says it extends beyond that. Other defendants have been
arguing similarly that they should be absolved of other alleged
crimes like illegal gun possession or you know, child pornography.
(10:34):
Their argument is those things were discovered during the January
sixth investigation. Dozens of defendants have joined forces on social
media to try to compile and publicize the names of
at least one hundred and twenty four people who had
a hand in their convictions, most of them prosecutors. There
(10:55):
are a few judges' names in there, and FBI agents,
and the post of names, with about sixty thousand views,
includes pictures and disparaging remarks and demands for accountability. Back
on the twenty seventh of January, prosecutors down in Houston
announced they were looking for Andrew Tacki, a January sixth
(11:17):
defendant who was being looked for on a charge of
online solicitation of a minor. Now that happened a long
time ago. It was eight years ago that that charge
came out. He had been serving a seventy four month
sentence after pleading guilty to violence at the Capitol. Prosecutors
(11:38):
said he sprayed police officers with bear spray four separate
times and hit one law enforcement officer with a medal whip.
The Harris County DA's office that had asked federal prison
officials to hold him, but instead he was let out
of a Colorado jail back on January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
After the pardon.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The DA's office said rearresting people like this Andrew Tacki
who were released pending state warrants will require significant resources.
He was eventually tracked down, but just about well it
was the sixth of February at home.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
An' white took them to be found at home. Federal agents.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Others are concerned that there will be some sort of
retaliation for investigating the Capital Riot Department of Justice leaders
have demanded a list of all the agents involved. The
agent sued, saying that it would put them that their
families at risk from the now pardoned and at large
convicted felons. So the federal government temporarily agreed not to
make the list public, and the judge is trying to
(12:39):
figure out should this be a long term ban. A
district judge said, if this information is released, I think
there's no question that it would put a number of
FBI agents in significant and immediate danger. And like I said,
some of these January sixth people who have been pardoned
are taken it upon themselves to publicize those names. Timothy
(13:00):
Lewis Hale Cosanelli is a guy from New Jersey served
three years in prison for his role in the January sixth.
He created the post on Twitter that asked fellow defendants
to name their prosecutors. He said, I'd like to see
the judges exposed. One person responded, not sure what you
can do about them, but they probably don't like their
names out there after releasing a bunch of angry bees.
(13:22):
Another one said take a names and kick an ass.
Another one every time a name would be posted this
Timothy Lewis Hale Quassanelli would write got him. He was
an army reservist at the time that he stormed the Capitol. He,
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they said, was among the first to enter the building
and was ordering others to advance into the building. They
said he made harassing and derogatory statements to police. He
spoke of a coming revolution. Another woman who helped smash
a window with a battering rams shouted through a bullhorn,
added her prosecutor's name to list. She accused the prosecutor
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of telling lies and called for consequences such as prison
time or termination of the allegations as if they are substantiated.
Things like murder plots and illegal gun possession and child pornography.
Those better not be those better not be pardoned as
a result of what the President did. When we rebuild,
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and we will rebuild in the Palisades and the Altadena areas,
there is a new plan that might take flight, and
that is builders permitting their own projects be unheard of
in a place like California, where they've got to have
their fingers and everything. The La Times is out with
the story today about how irreverend bumper stickers have taken
(14:52):
over La we wanted to know what your what your
favorites were.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We'll talk. We'll play a bunch of them a little
bit later.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Spencer from Fountain Valley. There used to be a car
in my neighborhood when I was younger. The bumper sticker said,
do not tailgate or I'll flick a bigger on your windshield.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Always a classic.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
As we race to rebuild after the fires over in
Pacific Palisades and also in Altadena, there is going to
be a bureaucratic mess that takes place. Even if it
runs as smooth as it ever has, the sheer number
of permits that have to be pulled for the thousands
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of structures that need to be rebuilt would be a problem.
So we're trying to figure out the most creative way
to grease the skids on that, not in a negative way,
but just to make sure that all of it gets built.
Our friend Dean Sharp, host of Home with Dean Shark
on the Weekends here on KFI, has done this, has
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dealt with permits, has had to deal with the bureaucracy
that comes with the building or improving properties that you're on, Dean,
is it a sweater day today?
Speaker 5 (16:02):
It is not a sweater day. I'm inside, I'm in
my studio designing, so things are nice and cozy.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's why, Okay, just.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The basics of when I'm rebuilding a house, even if
it was just a single house, single house fire, what
is the permit process for that?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
That's there's a lot to it. There really is a
lot to it. There is. Well, let me just I
don't want to bury the lead. I just want to
start by saying that some of the proposals that are
being forwarded right now by the city council members that
they're considering about this idea of self reporting permitting, you know,
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I'm in favor of it. I think that I've got
there's absolutely no problem with cutting through red tape, especially
at a time like this. It's an idea that's already
proven to work. It's working in a lot of places already,
places like San Diego, San Diego County. City of Bellflower
has been doing this for like ten years now. I
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think it's gonna help. But just understand, streamlining the permit
process is way. It is a much bigger snake to
wrangle than most people think, and so this is not
going to be just a panacea, because there's so much
more that goes into permitting, to your question than simple
simply checking the plans against the building code, which by
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the way, is the easiest part of the entire thing.
And you would think most home owners think, well, that's
the whole thing, right, No, no, it's not. Actually in
my experience, and I do a lot of custom homes,
obviously almost all exclusively custom homes, we get held up
with the city when it comes to the planning department
and zoning requirements and endless zoning ordinances. And let me
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tell you, the Palisades is an area where there are
zoning requirements and ordinances overlapping on top of each other
in multiple ways. So the idea of hey, let's streamline
the permitting process in plan check for just looking at
your plans and asking the question do they comply with
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building codes? That's kind of plan check one oh one.
That does not take very long to do with a
residential home. And so when you even if just a
single house, you just lost your house in a house fire,
everything else, all things being equal, you're going to have
to jump back through the zoning hoops, all the regulations
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that have been laid on top of that, and also
prove that the house that you're planning to build comports
with the building code. But like in the Palisades, you know,
it's like, there's the Palisades Commercial Village Zoning Area, there's
the Neighborhood Specific Plan, there's the Brentwood Palisades Community Plan.
Parts of the Palisades are governed by the Brentwood Pacific
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Palisades Dual Coastal Plan Zone. Other parts are governed by
the Mulholland Specific Parkway Specific Plan. There's the Hillside Ordans,
the relatively new anti mansioning Ordinance. And yes, some Pacific
Palisades homes are subject to the dreaded California Coastal Commission.
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And everything I just mentioned has nothing to do with
whether the plans for the house that you're submitting are
in accordance with the building code. That's just zoning stuff.
And I don't know how to cut through that stuff, honestly. Well,
I mean it takes I don't want to say, a
bigger man than you. It takes a team effort of
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people in the right political position, I think to make
that a priority. Because even Gavin Newsom, for example, Gavin
Newsom has issued an executive order just last week that
would loosen a building permit rule if you recently built
your house and you still have the plans on file,
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I mean within the last I don't know what the
limit was, but let's just say you built a house
in the last four years and you live in the
palais Age and you lost it in that fire. His
executive order would make it simple where you just go,
I've already been approved for all of this stuff. You know,
cuts basically to the front of the line because we've
had everything approved. It's going to take that kind of creativity,
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I think, to get some of that stuff out of
the way. But let me ask you quickly, I don't
know if if you would even envision how this would work.
But one of the things that Rick Caruso had said
was he wants to see AI used for permitting, where
instead of days or weeks to get human eyeballs on
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some of these building plans, you shove them into AI.
They basically tell you whether or not their code compliant
and what changes need to be made, so that within
hours you know and can make your you know your
addendums or make your changes and then get that building
permit process, you know, down five percent of what it
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would have been otherwise. Have you heard much of that
you if you, is that a real thing that exists
or is he kind of pie in the sky so far? Well,
I mean, you know, I don't know if it's a
real thing that exists. That's not something we've experienced thus far.
But then again, you know, two years ago, the amount
of things that AI is involved in has just gone
through the roof, so it's not outside of the realm
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of possibility. And again, I mean know, I don't really
have a problem with it. Why not run it through
an algorithm first and then let it red flag things
and then let a human being look at those red
flags and resolve those things instead of having somebody to
go through and pick through all the numbers and so on.
There's a lot of infrastructure that would have to be
built into that because like when, for instance, in your plans,
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it's not just looking at a plan set. The structural
engineer has to submit along with their plans, they have
to submit their load calculation. So now we're going to
tell a structural engineer that those calculations have to be
put in a particular software format that AI knows how
to read, to double check and so on. That's all
human checked right now. So theoretically sure, and again I
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don't have any problem with it, But still that conversation
gear is still just about building code compliance and has
nothing to do with all of the other things that
we have to wrestle with when we're trying to build
a place, a specific kind of house on a specific
kind of lot anywhere in southern California.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't know if this is right allegory During COVID,
restaurants were allowed to open up sidewalk a dining and
in many places it's still allowed because it turned out
to be fun and popular and it's a good way
for a restaurant to kind of soft expand without buying
new property. Is this a scenario you think where where
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we change permitting because of a disaster.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean that we've seen creep.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Let's use the ninety four northrich earthquake as the last
time that we saw something like this, that we saw
the creep of bureaucracy where everybody gets to pile on
and like you said, you had all those different zoning
groups and boards and everybody's got a piece of the pie.
Is this one of those scenarios where we it kind
of snaps us back into reality and we say we've
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done too much and we are strangling what should be
a pretty healthy construction process here.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, I think so. I think I think it is,
and so I'm hopeful about that. I wish it is
something that we could have accomplished earlier. And honestly, I'll
be just one hundred percent honest if this had only
been an issue with the Alta Dina fire, the Eaten fire,
I don't think we would see this happening the same way.
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The simple fact of the matter is there are a
lot of people with a lot of money and a
lot of influence in the Palisades, and you know, in
the world that we live in, money talks, influence is effective.
And because of that, I think this is probably going
to be a reality and will end up betting fitting
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everybody else. But I think that's the I mean, there
were none of these discussions when the entire city of
Paradise burnt to the ground a few years back. You know,
it is the fact that it has hit a wealthy,
influential area and people with influence. That's okay, fine, let's
let's see it go through and thin out some of
this bureaucratic red tape.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, there's a good point.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
They have all the money, they have, all the power,
they have all the influence. What they don't have is
the patience exactly. That combination is going to be could
be the death knell for some of this permitting progress.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Hey Dean, it's always great to talk to you on
a Monday.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Happy President's Day, you too, Bud, always here to help
all right. Up next, there was a little shake her
over the weekend, little Malibu or I.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Felt both of them.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I know you did.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I took a sleeping pill, okay, because I was very
sleep deprived.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And why are you so sleep deprived?
Speaker 6 (25:12):
It's a long story, but I felt it. I woke
up and that.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Made you even more sleep Well, we'll talk about that. Also,
do not this is specifically for you, Deborah. Do not
go to the Greek island of Santorini. Why because they
are dealing with hundreds of earthquakes. Yeah, you would not
like it. Not comfortable, not a good vacation for you.
Egypt is said to be developing a plan to rebuild
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Gaza without forcing anybody out. That would be different than
President Trump's proposal to depopulate the Gaza strips.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The US would be able to take it over.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The Egyptian officials said they've been discussing this plan with
diplomats from Europe, diplomats from other Arab countries, as well
as ways that they might be able to fund it.
And again, the polar vortex is back. This is a
normal pattern that actually gets stronger in winter and keeps
some of the coldest weather bottled up near the north Pole.
Sometimes it comes down move south. We're going to see
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it again this week, they said. Between Maine and Montana
and as far south as Oklahoma, people could see temperatures
into below freezing for the most part. Couple small earthquakes
hit Malibu Friday and Saturday. First one was a late
Friday night registered at a three point seven, and then
the second quake was about six thirty Saturday morning, measured
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about a three point five struck in roughly the same area.
Some people in Ventura County say that it felt like
a pretty sharp jolt. Some car alarms went off. There
was a third one, but it was way out to
the east of US. The third quake measured about three
point five near the San Jua Sindo Mountains in Riverside County.
That would have been about two in the afternoon on Saturday.
The epicenter near Idlewild, just south of Idlewild, Greece is
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dealing with a series of earthquakes.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
They guess.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
They would call it a swarm of earthquakes that have
rattled the island of Santorini and some other minor islands
in the area. It is a volcanic island in the
a GNC. It's been shaken by tens of thousands of
earthquakes if you want to count the smallest ones, but
tens of thousands of them since late January, and everybody,
not everybody, thousands of people have decided they want to
(27:23):
get out of there, so authorities have banned construction activity
on the island of Santorini. They have shut down schools,
they have told everybody to stay away from the nearby islands. Now,
no major damage has been reported, but scientists have said
that this is unprecedented, even in a place like Greece
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where they do get earthquakes. They've not ruled out bigger
earthquakes coming, saying that these all might be four shocks to.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
A big one.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So they've identified the main faery port now at the
foot of a big long slow and some other sites
across Santorini as weak links, although they have not said
that they couldn't be used in an emergency situation. They
are trying to figure out what to do when they said,
along with a new port in Santorini which is being built,
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there was a decision for setting up an escape port
on part of the island where passenger ferries would be
able to dock in an emergency. So they said that
the earthquakes themselves have kind of slowed the pace over
the last couple of days. Local authorities did extend the
emergency measures for a third week, and they've reiterated calls
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for people to stay away from coastal areas, stay away
from the steep hillsides that might be prone to landslides.
They said that Santorini took its current shape after one
of the largest volcanic eruptions in history, which was about
thirty seven hundred years ago. Seismologists have said that this
latest seismic activity as the results of the tectonic plates
(28:57):
in the magma and has pushed subsurface layers of the
island upwards in some areas, and they're suggesting that the
big one could still come, even though the last few
days have been a little quieter.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
So don't go to Santorini.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I have been many, many years ago, and it's on
my list to spend more time there.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But not now. Let's wait. Yeah, let's wait until you
know what.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I have the worst luck and so you know what,
if I do go, then for sure the.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Big one's going to hit. Where were you last, Dubai? No,
you was it, Dubai. You were going to go, You're
going to fly through Israel.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Oh, one week to the day that I was going
to Israel. We were going to Israel, Egypt and Jordan.
The Hamas attacked Israel literally on the Saturday. It was
a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We were going very next Saturday. You were going to
go on the fourteenth, Yes, And the attack happened on.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The seventh exactly. And then Dubai, we have the massive flooding.
I can go on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Remind me to get a copy of your track.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Everybody says the opposite place of the exact other side
of the world. We were talking earlier about the bumper stickers.
Coming up at twelve twenty, we'll take some of your
talkbacks about your favorite bumper stickers that you've seen.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hey, Gary, this is Tim and Burbank.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I saw a bumper sticker years ago that has stuck
with me all through the years. I don't know why
it tickled me so much, but it said I can't
see you, so don't pretend you're there.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Kind of an existentialist message or something. I don't know.
It just made me laugh. It's still best have a
great day, all right.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We'll do that coming up at twelve twenty, twelve thirty, sorry,
twelve thirty, we'll go through those bumper stickers. If you've
has had any part of the show, go back and
check out the podcast. Any place you find your favorite podcast,
just type in Gary and Shannon and see our little pictures,
and then you could listen to every show.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We'll do what's happening right after this. You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
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