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February 21, 2025 25 mins
Gary begins the scone hour of the show by talking about thew ongoing fight over what to do with all the debris caused from the LA wildfire, Netflix investing in Mexico and the lates between Israel and Hamas.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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on the iHeartRadio app stories that were following Israeli Prime
Minister of Bannet Yaho has vowed revenge for what he
described as a cruel and malicious violation of the ceasefire
agreement with Hamas, But Hamas apparently released the body that
Israeli authorities found was not that of an Israeli mother

(00:24):
of two young boys. HAMA said that it would conduct
a review of the information regarding the body. The group
suggested that the mix up was possible because they said
Israel bombed the area where the hostages were being held
and that they may have grabbed the wrong body. President
Trump's envoy Ukraine and Russia has says he held extensive

(00:47):
and positive discussions with President Zelenski of Ukraine after about
the three year war. He praised the leader as an
embattled and courageous leader of a nation at war. This
is retired US Lieutenant General Keith. This is quite a
departure from the rebukes of Zelensky that we have seen
by Trump and some other senior US officials. A federal

(01:08):
judge has allowed President Trump's mass firing of federal workers
to move forward. District Judge said he could not grant
emotion from unions that represent the workers to stop the layoffs,
though he did say that there is some chaos as
a result of all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
And the fires.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Palisades fire, the Eton fire wiped out thousands of homes.
That has forced all of these families to find places
to live, and the tenants who were just getting by
before the fires now are facing the search for a
new rental home. La rental market had too few affordable
homes to start with, and now they're suggesting that there

(01:45):
are a lot of rent gougers out there. Attorney General
Rob Bonte has worn property owners against price gouging and
said you cannot accept a rent that exceeds a ten
percent cap, even if the prospective tenant is willing to
pay more. Speaking of our fires, the cleanup is in

(02:05):
full swing and we got to get through the cleanup
before we can do any sort of recovery. And if
you think about the devastation in Altadena or Pacific Palisades,
you're talking about millions of tons of trash. One estimate
is that it's about four and a half million tons

(02:26):
of ash, of wreckage, of junk, of damage, all of that.
That would be one of the largest amounts of disaster
debris in the state history. Now we know that everything
that burned in people's homes, batteries, metals, appliances, televisions, couches,

(02:49):
whatever it is, many of them have toxic chemicals in
them that are released as a gas when they burn
or are just spread out. When it comes to the
ashes that are left over, and the previous assessment found
that the ash did have levels of toxic chemicals that
would be considered chemical considered hazardous by state standards. But

(03:12):
the debris has been taken to landfills before any of
the testing has been performed. As an example, up in
Granada Hills, you got the Sunshine Canyon landfill. If you
go up the New Hall Pass, it's just to the
west of the highway. I go by there every single day,
at least twice. And there are days I haven't figured

(03:35):
out the weather pattern yet, like is it on a
warm day, is it a cold day? But there are
days you can smell that thing because it's a dump.
I mean literally, it's a dump. It's a landfill. It's
where everybody takes their trash, and there is a concern that,
among other things, there's a school about a mile away
van Go Elementary over in Granada Hills. The landfill is

(03:58):
up in an area where there are strong winds that
come through the New Hall Pass and there's a concern
from the people who live in Granada Hills that those
winds are going to blow this dust and ash into
the community's downwind and one of the people who lives
there says, yeah, it's dangerous to us. And the reason
we know that is those guys all wear hazmat suits

(04:19):
when they're messing around with it, and that they're depositing
the material from six in the morning to seven at night.
There are portions of that material that are gonna get dry,
and the winds are going to keep blowing and then
that's going to disperse this particulate matter across the San
Fernando Valley. Another one in Calabasas, they have a landfill.
A bunch of different signs on their policies for toxic

(04:44):
matter or dangerous matter that would go into the landfill.
One of them just simply says no hazardous waste. Another
one says you can't put these electronics, these household items
because they may contain toxic substances. Think about batteries or
cans of paint or spray paint or something like that.
There's a new sign in front of the Calabass landfill

(05:05):
that says any incoming fire debris must have a certificate
that verifies its non hazardous.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
The problem is that.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Only pertains to the private contractors who have been hauling dirt,
not the federally hired crews that are taking part in
the debris removal. Guy lives in Agura Hills, president of
the Loso virgin A School Board in Calabasses, said you
legally cannot throw away a double A battery in this landfill.

(05:35):
But now they're allowing hundreds of thousands of tons of
burnt batteries, paint chips, and other things into the community
and it's incomprehensible. They're not saying just take it somewhere else,
we don't care where it goes. They're saying that there
are hazardous waste landfills that are equipped to handle the
potential toxic, dangerous material because they have, among other things,

(05:59):
sturdy line in the bottom of them. To prevent leakage.
They have monitors to detect unintended discharges, etc. LA City
Councilman John Lee represents that northwest side of the San
Fernando Valley. He has introduced a measure calling on the
city attorney to take legal action to block any of
the wildfire debris from being dumped at Sunshine Canyon and

(06:22):
said the proposal without sufficient testing and oversight, would be
an insult. The proposal for them to accept the debris,
he said, it would be an insult to the communities
that are located near the landfill. The district has already
faced numerous environmental challenges and simply can't allow another one
to make its way into the neighborhoods the landfill. According
to the landfill people, Republic Services is the owner of

(06:44):
the landfill at Sunshine Canyon. They say they are equipped
to handle this. They said, it's a strong community partner.
It's responsible option for the non hazardous waste. They have
extensive experience firing handling fire waste. Land Bill does have
one of those state of the art liner systems, a
cover system, a gas collection system. All of them helped

(07:08):
to ensure that the material is managed safely and responsibly.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
This is another one of those fights.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
There's kind of an aftermath of the disaster that we
saw back on January seventh, started on January seventh, that's
not going to end anytime soon as this cleanup continues.
Speaking of though, yesterday we spent some time talking about
how Karen Bass has been in the hot seat, a
well deserved hot seat, since she left Ta Ghana when

(07:36):
we knew that there was this dangerous wind situation that
was happening in the hills. Gavin Newsom is another one
of those guys who's going to be judged by guys,
I mean politicians, who's going to be judged based on
the response to this disaster. It's not just another wildfire.
This is the largest disaster that we've seen in California history,

(07:57):
at least monetarily speaking. Gavin Newsom has been seen in
and around south southern California, La County, La City specifically
since the fire started back on January seventh.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
He was here the next day.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
He has been living and working out of the Governor's office,
the one that exists here in LA for quite a while.
And listen, I am not one who is a giant
fan of Gavin Newsom, but I got to give him
credit for being here. Cal Matters actually wrote up an
article that said that a politician at whatever level can

(08:34):
rise or fall depending on the way they respond to disasters,
and in this case, they're suggesting that because the governor
has been so present after the fires, that he might
even be considered the governor of Los Angeles. Interesting title,

(08:55):
but this is clearly a crucial moment in whatever legacy
he's going to have as a two term governor of
the state of California and whatever political future that he's
got working around that finally quaffed head of his And
as much as he wants to deny that that's on
his mind, that's completely on his mind. There's a guy

(09:18):
who a journalist wrote a biography about former Governor Brown
and now teaches at UCLA. Said people do turn to
leadership state or federal when all hell is breaking loose.
We know that, and said it's a time when you
can really seal the affections of people by seeming to
be there for them. And sometimes it's a term that
my father in law used to use or still uses.

(09:40):
It's called the ministry of presence. Sometimes people just need
to know that you're physically there when they're going through something.
And to his credit, Gavin Newsom has been at every
one of these photo ops, every one of these not everyone,
but most of these news conferences, the higher profile ones.
When cal Matters went to the governor's office and asked

(10:00):
for comment on all of this and asked to speak
to the governor, they turned him down.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
They said, nah, he's too busy.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But the senior advisor for communications did insist that the
governor and his staff are not contemplating his legacy as
they navigate the response to the fires.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
How is that possible.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Gavin Newsom was one of the loudest people, the loudest politicians,
the loudest Democratic politicians that was going against a second
Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Remember the campaign.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
He was going to travel around the country and he
was going to help safeguard states from the power that
was the evil Republican Party. That's what he was planning
to do. He's been really quiet on the second Trump
administration since it's come to fruition, since inauguration day.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
On January twentieth.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
He was in southern California on January seventh. Lucky for
him because he was already there for an event with
Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Joe Biden was in town. You remember that night too.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
That event was ultimately scrapped because of the fires that
were going on, and Gavin Newsom made it to the
fire zones within a couple of hours and said, when
it became very clear, this is his communications director, when
it became clear that this was one of the worst
disasters in California history. We stayed being down there seeing
the level of devastation. It was clear that this was
something that was going to take all of his time. Now,

(11:28):
think about the difference between that attitude and the attitude
that Karen Bass had, And again we talked about it before.
She says she was never warned about the potential danger.
Gavin Newsom gets lucky by being in southern California. I
don't think he would have come down here if he
knew just that the red flag warning was considered a
particularly dangerous situation. But he gets to have the slight

(11:50):
positive bump, while Karen Bass is dealing with the negative
bump for the way that she handled it. And to
be honest, and at least part of it is just
the bad timing of the Biden request that she go
to Ghana to act as a sort of a diplomatic
liaison for the United States at that inauguration there in Ghana.

(12:12):
So big stories out of Hollywood today as well. Netflix
is going to drop all kinds of money in another
country for some of the production for TV and movies.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is a new one we haven't heard before. That.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And James Bond, the property that is James Bond is
now owned by another evil genius. A couple stories that
we're following throughout the day today. I don't know what
kind of a mess this made, but six elephants were
killed when a passenger train collided with a herd in
Sri Lanka. They said it was four young elephants and

(12:50):
two adult elephants near a wildlife sanctuary there in Sri Lanka.
That just sounds absolutely awful. Luigimangioni is doing court today.
Man accused of shooting the CEO of United Healthcare back
in New York City and then leading everybody on a manhunt,
scheduled to be in court today for the first time
since his arraignment on state murder and terror charges in December.

(13:11):
Prosecutors and his defense attorneys are expected to do a
bunch of updates and stuff, status of the case, etc.
But the judge could set the deadlines for some of
the pre trial paperwork and possibly even a trial date.
And then Ukrainian intelligence is suggesting that Vladimir Putin is

(13:34):
preparing an announcement to declare victory in its war with Ukraine.
That he's expected to frame this announcement not only as
a triumph over Ukraine but also over NATO and portraying
this conflict as a broader defeat for the West. We'll
talk a little bit more about that we get in
a swamp watch just in terms of this would be
similar to what President Trump has been giving to Vladimir Putin.

(13:58):
But these already getting a bunch of pushback from some
pretty high high profile Conservatives and Republicans who disagree with
the way that he's going about trying to broker a
peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. All Right, So Netflix
is planning to spend a billion dollars in Mexico over
the next few years. Ted Sarandos, of course, the head

(14:22):
co founder I believe it is co CEO, announced the
plan yesterday during a press conference with the President of
Mexico Claudia Shinbaum. They said it could fund about twenty
productions per year on average. During the event, they also
announced two million dollars in Mexico City's studios called Churubusco
Studios to improve their facilities. Mexico, they said, is a

(14:46):
key place in Netflix's history because the TV show Club
de Quervos, produced in Mexico, premier back in twenty fifteen,
was the first Netflix series that was shot outside of
the the United States. Since then, they've put a bunch
of projects in Mexico. Have been popular films like Roma
and Bardo and Pinocchio by Mexican directors. They've been standouts

(15:11):
for Netflix. In twenty twenty, they established the Latin American
headquarters for Netflix there in Mexico City, and they said
for the last five years, the workforce in that office
has grown tenfold, which is pretty amazing. The CEO Ted
Sarandos again revealed that the production of the feature film

(15:31):
Pedro Parramo contributed more than eighteen and a half million
dollars to the GDP of Mexico and generated thousands of
jobs in those sectors, and he spoke very eloquently about
the scenes.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
There the journey in Mexico. This is Ted Sarando speaking.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Our journey in Mexico has taken us from north to south,
from sunsets on the Baja California Peninsula to sunrises on
the Caribbean. We have produced more than in more than
fifty locations in twenty five states. With this renewed commitment,
we look forward to deepening our partnership even more. The
business opportunities there are all over the place, and you

(16:11):
think about this, just if all you did was look
at the number of potential streaming customers in Mexico. A
lot of them, just like we hear in the United States,
maintained several subscriptions at a time. They said Netflix is
among the three most popular streaming platforms among Mexican people,

(16:32):
is the second most used video on demand application, with
a market share about twenty one percent. So they're pouring
a lot of money into that market.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
And then James Bond, this is a shakeup.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
They're saying, they could stir the film industry, get it shaken, stirred.
Amazon MGM announced that the studio has taken the creative
rain of the Double O seven franchise from the family
that controlled it for a long time. Michael Wilson and
Barbara Brockley said they were going to be stepping back,
so Amazon MGM, Wilson, Brockley they formed a new joint

(17:13):
venture in which they all co own the intellectual property rights,
but it's Amazon that's going to have creative control on this.
They didn't explain how much this is a few hundred
million dollars, but they said it's expected to close sometime
over the next year. Amazon bought MGM for six billion
in change a few years ago. They said it's significantly

(17:37):
motivated by the acquisition of one of the movies most
beloved and long time franchises. Of course, No Time to
Die was the last James Bond. There's a question now
about what they're going to do with this. Do they
turn this into sort of the Star Wars, I mean
a huge franchise like this, Think think Star Wars, I
think Marvel movies.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
There's a lot of off shoots that you can do
that have never really been done with James Bond. Yeah,
the character's been in dozens, if not a couple one
hundred different stories in book form, movie forum, et cetera.
But they've never done the beginning of James Bond, the
life story of this guy. How did he become the

(18:19):
world's most handsome secret agent?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And what about the other people that he works with?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Are there backstories to these other characters that are involved
that that could have some sort of spin off on
all of them? What Joe Russo though Marvel Cinematic Universe
co director guy he did Avengers Endgame, he says, don't
Cinematic Universe James Bond stick with just James Bond movies.

(18:47):
Don't get into those other character discussions and offshoot movies.
All right, changing gears significantly in the next segment, something
happened yesterday that I talked about at the beginning of
the show yesterday, and this was the turnover of the
bodies of Israeli hostages by Hamas. Two of those were

(19:12):
of babies, when was nine months old, when was four
years old, and then their mother. The problem, according to
Israel is that body was not their mother. And Benjamin
Netanyaho has basically said, in echoing Trump, all hell is
going to break loose.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
The story out of Israel got gruesome.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That place has been absolutely showered in blood for year decade.
I mean it is a hard place to be. The
ceasefire that we've seen between Israel and Hamas has at
the very least resulted in some hostages being released.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yesterday was.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Very sad chapter in that because four dead hostages. The
bodies of those four hostages were released, but it didn't
go as planned. Talked yesterday about how Hamas was parading
these flag draped not flag draped, a cloth, black cloth

(20:20):
draped coffins that were apparently locked, and when they were
finally handed over to the Red Cross, the Red Cross
hands them over to the Israeli Defense Forces. The IDF
then does forensic tests, autopsy basically on the remains of
those four people. Two of them were Aril and Kafir Bibas,

(20:46):
the youngest of the hostages that were taken back on
October seventh of twenty twenty three, and Hamas had said
that they died in an Israeli air strike. Now we've
talked with ABC's Jordana Miller. She filed this report from Jerusalem.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Terris and Gaza murdered quote with their bare hands, nine
month old fear Bibus and his four year old brother Aril.
Those are the gruesome results from Israel's National forensic institute
that identified and did autopsies on the bodies of the
young Israeli hostages. It's another painful blow for the Bebas
family and Israeli's at large after Hamas failed on Thursday

(21:25):
to return the body of the children's mother, Shiri, handing
over instead the body of a Gazen woman Jordana Miller,
ABC News Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
So it's hard to figure out what is true, what
is not true, what's going on back there. Benjamin Etna
who recorded a speech to the Israeli people and said,
may God avenge their blood and we will also have
our vengeance. Now, a lot of people in Israel if
those allegations are true, that these kids were literally killed

(21:57):
by Hamas, not by an Israeli strike. If that is
not the body of Shiri Bibas, their mother, people want
Hamas wiped off the face of the earth.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Enough.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Toylie Bennett, a former Prime minister, said that the treatment
of that family, the Bebas family, shows the majority of
Gozen's want to murder all of the Israelis, and for
some of the people who live in Israel, they have said,
this is exactly why we need to not stop this war.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
They don't like the ceasefire. Now.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
The ceasefire itself is supposed to end early in March,
and when that happens, at least the way it's gone
in the past, is Israel picks up right where they
left off and blows up things and breaks things. Buzzel
Schmotrich is a far right finance minister in Israel and

(22:55):
said the only solution is the destruction of Hamas and
this must not be postponed. There are voices that are
calling for calm that the fate of the family. The
Bebas family exemplified why they need to extend the ceasefire
to bring home the seventy hostages that are still there
and in some cases dead. Hamas said in a statement

(23:20):
it's investigating the claims that that wasn't Shiri Bibas's body
and said that they may have mistakenly confused her body
for that of a dead Palestinian woman in the aftermath
of the bombing that they said took place late in
twenty twenty three. That they've been sitting on these bodies
literally for well over a year before they return them.

(23:45):
Nobody has been able to verify the accounts of either
side of them of either side here, whether in fact
it was a mistaken Palestinian woman, if it was a
game that was being played by Hamas, if this was
something that Israel is saying simply to stoke up anger, whatever,
We just there's really no way to independently verify that.
While that was going on, three buses exploded near Tel Aviv,

(24:08):
and what Israeli police said was a suspected coordinated terror attack.
The buses where the bombs exploded were empty. They were
in separate parking lots about five hundred yards away from
each other. No injuries reported from the explosions.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
They said.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Another bomb is also found undetonated on a fourth bus.
The explosive devices, they said, resembled bombs that Israeli police
have seen throughout the West Bank. One person has been arrested,
but they haven't given a whole lot of other details.
There was a note on one of the bombs that
said revenge revenge against the tul Karm camp, referring to

(24:45):
one of the Israeli operations in the West Bank last week.
So all right, swamp Watch, we'll get into the stories
about what's going on in DC. The importance of using
weights in your strength training dogs, sleeping.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I mean, these are all Friday topics, are they not.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
We'll talk about some of the fun stuff and the
tickets to that Lumineer's album release party coming up next hour.
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