February 26, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary and Shannon begin the show with the news of President Trumps first Cabinet meeting, Tulsi Gabbard says more than 1000 intelligence officer have been fired for inappropriate chat messages and the Congo reports over 50 deaths from a mystery illness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, this is this is gonna be a fun show.
I've already predicted it. I'm gonna set that out in
that first segment. We're gonna have fun today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, somebody's had a fun morning. What did you do
this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I watched the cabinet meeting this morning. It's actually still
going on. President Trump is holding his first cabinet meeting.
And we'll talk about it in a couple of minutes.
Because Elon Musk is in the room. He doesn't have
a seat at the table literally, he's actually sitting off
to the to the back wall. But he was the
first member of the team, I guess to speak, So
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so we'll.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We'll talk about that coming up. Tulci Gabbert.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This this little chat room that was opened up along
one of the DA Was it NSA servers or something
like that? Employees in the intelligence community who like to
do things a little differently, like this little spike. See
it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, no sex in Tulci Gabbert's NSA chat rooms.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
At least not that kind of sex apparently, as opposed
to what I don't know, I mean, the old normal
whitebread stuff. The in and out menu is opposed to
the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, I never realized the humor in the comparison
between the in and out menu and the cheesecake factory menu?
Did you ever realize that?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I never. I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ever went in an out menu.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, well I got that part, Yes, I do understand.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I never thought about that, the triple on Tandra at
that point.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, all right, So this is the first cabinet meeting.
It's quite orwellian, isn't it. This whole Elon Musk figure
in this administration and what it means? And now he's
sitting off to the corner in the cabinet meeting. It's
all very Korean regime intrigue, isn't it about what exactly
is his role? And is he a hench dog? Right?
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And all these cabinet members are they just kind of
like walking on eggshells around him.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It is a funny storyline, if there's an expectation. I mean,
as of this week, I think there are two or
three separate articles that I saw that were predicting when
Trump is going to get rid of Elon, when he's
going to fly too close to the sun. One of
them was Elon Musk's Icarus moment, or when he's going
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to get sort of out when his story outsizes the
story of a second president Trump term and right, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Funny, you know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, both of them's predicted, the two that I can
remember off the top of my head both predicted September.
By September, Elon Musk is out shooting rockets, but it's
going to have nothing to do with the Department of
Government efficiency or anything to do with his close senior
advisor position that he currently has with the president.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That is a long leash, isn't it. Yeah, I predict July.
I mean, this is going to get to the point
where Trump is not even going to want to look
at Elon Musk's name because it's gonna be everywhere. I mean,
it already is everywhere, but right now it's kind of
in conjunction with Trump's name. But yeah, like you said,
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at one point, he's gonna eclipse Trump in terms of
just people's fascination. He's still relatively a new figure to
consume on this level. If you're not on Twitter, if
you're not involved in what's going on with aerospace and
all of that. In Tesla, he's kind of just this
goofy tech guy, right, But he's about to be mainstream.
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We pay attention every day, so we know who he has,
we've known who he is, but he's about to hit
mainstream and be the water cooler talk. And I think
when it gets to that level, Trump is gonna summa
summarily get rid of him post haste.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, And I'm curious it would be different if Trump
had a mutation for I'm going to bring in anybody
I don't care who they are and let them do
their job at the best of their ability.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But that's not who he is. He's always been, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And he made a comment, I believe it was yesterday
in the anticipation of this cabinet meeting. Some reporter asked him,
how do you compare this cabinet, your your second term cabinet,
to the first meeting of the first cabinet in your
first term?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And he said, this one's much deeper. He's like he said.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Along the lines of I like these guys a little
bit better.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, I had some great people my second time. I
think this is deeper. I think it's better because it's deeper.
I had some people that I didn't really like too
much in my cabinet, but I didn't know Washington then.
But I was a New York person.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Now, and that lends to his.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ego is probably too small a word to talk about
his personality. But he's not going to allow you know,
think of all of those people Jeff Sessions was the
Attorney General of the United States. I mean, just give
you an idea of He is no fan of Jeff
Sessions anymore. Hr McMaster. Any number of Secretaries of State
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that he went through.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Those were all DC people. That's his point, right, these
are all DC people. I'm a New York person. He
likes stars. From what I know about Donald Trump back
when he was on reality TV, he likes to surround
himself with sparkly things a lah Elon Musk. But as
soon as that sparkle gets too bright, goodbye. Never forget that.
Trump has to be the star of the show that
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he produces. If you get too big, you get canned.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about
what Elon said today again he was the first speaker
outside of the President, and how he described this whole
five bullet point email thing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's very simple when it comes from him. Let him explain.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Temperatures today here in so Cal expected to be about
ten to twenty degrees above normal and tomorrow Tomorrow is
going to be even warmer.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They're expecting some record high temperatures.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But by the time we get around to Sunday and
the oscars, they said it could be raining. Storm expected
to roll through on Friday, could give us a little
bit more rain over the weekend. So and then the
other thing, finally, the up in the skies. Seven planets
all visible in the night sky tonight and tomorrow night
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and maybe into Friday. It's called the Planetary Parade. They said,
it's going to be the last time that seven planets
can be seen simultaneously so well until the year twenty
forty March.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Cool Uranus, Venus, Neptune, Mercury, and Saturn.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I'm gonna have to get out my planet app that
you just pointed at the sky. You point your phone
at the sky and tells you what planet you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Basically, Cool is that saturnded.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm here to Saturn's going to be the hardest, just
because it's going to be low in the horizon. You
might need a telescope to also spot Uranus and neptune.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I love it up here in the Bay Area. For
some reason, the sky is so much clearer at night
than it is where I live down there. Anyway, did
you hear about the rfkaid? I love that this new
term you've been rfkaid.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, of course.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The new director of the Health and Human Services Department,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior shake Shack says that they have
rfkaid their French fries. They are no longer going to
be using vegetable oil for cooking their French fries. Are
any restaurants nationwide beef tallow or something beef tallow? Gary,
(07:39):
I'm glad we're doing this now so we can get
it out of the way before Deborah gets here. Beef
tallow is rendered from beef fat. It's called beef drippings.
It's made by removing, simmering and clarifying the fatty tissue
surrounding the organs of cows, goats, and deer. Rfk Junior
has been pushing the country away from using vegetable oil,
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saying that we're being poisoned by the seed oils and
now we're moving to the beef tallow. Yum, yum, yum.
Give me all the beef drippings right on my fries. See.
This is why I tell Debora to be careful when
John brings her the in and out fries, which I
know are just covered in beef tallow. She says they
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cook them separately.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'm like, mmmmm, sure they do well. This cabinet meeting
is going on right now.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
President Trump is holding his first cabinet meeting of his
second term, and he's answering a bunch of questions. Number one,
just during the commercial break, he did say that Ukrainian
President's Lensky will be here in the United States and
is likely to sign that minerals deal, which gives us
the United States a share of minerals that they sell
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and will help fund the ongoing supply of weapons, etc.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That the United States has been giving.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
The other thing is Elon Musk was first to speak
in this cabinet meeting outside of the president and was
explaining not just the members of the cabinet, but also
reporters who are in the room about what was going
on with that five bullet point email.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think that email perhaps was best interpreted as a
performance review, but actually it was a pulse check review.
Do you have a pulse? You have a pulse at
two neurons, So if you have a pulse into a neurons,
you can reply to an email.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He also said that the email was born out of
the President suggesting to Elon to be a little bit
more bold, a little bit more aggressive, And.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I said, can we send out an email to or
one just saying what did you get done last week?
And the President said yes, So they did that, and
you know, we got the partial response. We're going to
send another email. But our goal is not to be
capricious or unfair. It's we want to give people every
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opportunity to send an email. And the email could simply
be what I'm working on, too sensitible, class fight to describe,
like literally, just that would be sufficient. You know, I
think this is just common sense.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You asked yesterday how many people would reply. Last night
I saw that more than a million people, more than
a million federal workers, had replied to the email. And
that was long before the deadline had come up, so
they weren't sure exactly what the total number was going
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But again, was that like, there's almost half. Almost half.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, and then on top of that, if if more
of them came in right up to the deadline, then
obviously that would be more than half. But his point
was this, this should not have been a difficult subject.
It's not a difficult question to describe what you did
last week and see your boss on it, your your
immediate supervisor, which, like we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's annoying that somebody like Elon musk is your accountability boss,
tell me what you did. Who the hell are you?
Screw you? You're not my boss. But just send the
But then okay, yeah, that's annoying, that's silly, But then
just do the word. Just send the email. I thought
this was funny that came out of the cabinet meeting.
You know how Trump loves nicknames, right you think about
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James Mattis, the Defense secretary. He called him mad Dog Mattis.
By the way, Mattis hated that name. Fun fact. Now,
Trump notes in this meeting that his choice to become
the next chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff Lieutenant
General Dan Cain. His nickname, Trump said today is Raisin Cain.
Trump said today, as soon as I heard his name,
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I said, I like that guy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I like his chicken fingers. He's really great at chicken fingers.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This, oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that
branding opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
This meeting will continue and if anything comes out of it,
well we'll bring it to you. Of course, we'll revisit
when we get up into into swamp watch. One of
the things that has happened is Tulci Gabbard, the new
Director of National Intelligence, has fired more than one hundred
different intelligence officers from fifteen different agencies for a chat
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room that blossomed up and was sort of a playground
for some of the more interesting sexual predilections. President also
yesterday wanted to begin selling said he wanted to begin
selling gold card visas with a price tag of five
million dollars for people who want to come to the
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United States and create jobs. And he said this immigration program,
which he believes is legal, could start in as little
as as two weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Michelle Trachtenberg has died just thirty nine years old. Actress
that was in Gossip Girl as Georgina. She was in
euro Trip, obviously a cult following there. She was in
Buffy and a number of things. Thirty nine years old.
Was apparently having some some issues. Is so her death
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is not being investigated as suspicious. She was found around
eight am this morning in her luxury apartment in Central
Park South there in New York. I said she had
posted a series of troubling photos in recent months on Instagram.
She appeared gaunt frail, prompting some fans to comment about
her startling weight loss, asking if she was on drugs
as well, but very sad, very coming of age type
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actress in the nineties, early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah you said, thirty nine, Yeah wow. Gavin Newsom is
going to hold a news conference at eleven o'clock hour today,
says he's going to unveil a major statewide economic initiative,
including new funding and some targeted support to accelerate the
economic recovery after our fires. That's coming up eleven thirty,
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top of the hour. By the way, we're going to
talk about the absolute can we call it an s storm?
Whatever's going on with Karen Bass and the fire airing
of fire Chief Kristen Crowley, and how many people are
pushing back against it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The funny thing about scapegoats, you kind of got to
make an escape scapegoat right away, don't you hope that
they kind of goes away. This has not gone away
for Karen Bass. Maybe the beginning of the end for her.
We'll have to get into it. Tulci Gabbard, the new
Director of National Intelligence, said today that more than one
hundred intelligence officers from fifteen agencies had been fired for
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having sexually explicit discussions on a government chat tool.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Is not at all to America. It is not to
the American people or the Constitution. It is to themselves.
And these are exactly the kind of people that we
need to root out, get rid of, so that the
patriots who do work in this area, who are committed
to our core mission can actually focus on that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is this like our I don't know, because I don't
engage in our own company chat program? Is it like
the teams type thing that people try to get started
with us?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I guess so, only because I don't. It's hard for
me to understand exactly. But even if that was the case,
even if it was just a simple tool, like our
corporation uses Microsoft Teams for a lot of these meetings,
et cetera. How would you find this chat, this very
specific chat topic, and then use it to and then
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think to yourself that you'd be able to get away
with it, because listen, I don't think it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Was one topic though, was it. I mean, I think
it sounds like it was pretty pervasive of just people
running fast and loose with what they were saying. Well,
you said discussions that contain sexual themes. Chats often included
explicit discussion of gender transition surgery as well, Oh my god,
that's like the Holy Grail. You can't touch that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We get a little notice and when we log into
our computers every day that says, hey, just so you know,
the corporation has access to everything that you use this
computer for, right and for in your case, they try
to scrub your browser. But we know that working in
a dumb place like this, those people are literally working
for the intelligence agencies of the United States and nobody.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They still have something of humor. They still do balls jokes,
just like we do this. They're just like us.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
This was beyond balls jokes at least.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
How do you know? Tell me give me details. I
didn't find any in the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You haven't seen any of the discussions.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So it was it was about these people living out
and again it's all personal stuff, but they're living out
their dream of having transitioned, what it's like to have
breasts for the first time, or what it was like
to get a double mass dectomy.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
So I could appear male.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean that kind of stuff which clearly has no nothing,
but it has nothing to do with your job. And
why would you put that on a discussion group in
when you're working for an intelligence agent.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let me play Devil's advocate. Everything has gone online, people
are working from home. Are you still having the same
conversations with co workers online using these teams, platforms or
whatever the platform the NSA uses. Are you still having
conversations with people you work with when you're working from
home that may involve outside topics? Probably?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Probably, But I also understand that the corporation has every
right to come after me and say you cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean, if you're siting.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
More information about like what was talked about, I mean,
do you have any examples?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I can find I read through them yesterday. I can
find a couple of them for you.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's like, how egregious are we talking about? Like you know,
you know, I want Sarah in accounting naked in front
of me? Or is it Sarah in accounting is going
through the change? How cool for her? I wonder what
that feels like. I mean, how agreed to? Are they threatening?
Are they too sexual? Or is it just mentioning sex
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changes or what have you in a polite professional way.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't know. But even then, what does that have
to do? Here you go?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
They discussed hair removal, estrogen injections, the experience of sexual
pleasure post castration.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We've all talked about these things. Does it still work
the same way?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Getting my bottom?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'll just say that zapped by a laser was shocking,
said someone. Another one said, look, I just enjoy helping
other people experience boobs. One other one said, one of
the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when I urinate,
I don't have to push anything down to make sure
it aims right.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I would welcome these conversations in the workplace. How many
people have undergone.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The surgery about a normal workplace.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
We're not talking about the uh, I don't know, the
script writing room over at NBC. You're talking about the
intelligence community in the you know what.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Here's the thing. We are such pollyannas sometimes, so we
hold up specific professions as holier than now. People that
you would think are so above board and they're so
serious and they're so committed to keeping the country safe
and that's what they live and work and breathe and bleed.
That is not the case. We are all the freaking
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same I mean, Pete, the same jokes that we make
you're gonna hear at the nssay. These are people who
are just like everybody else. And if the topic of
gender reassignment surgery is floating around like it does in
governmental spaces the way it does, I mean we've had
to take training about it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We have.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's been like this, this thing that the government has
been a obsessed with, locally, statewide, nationwide for like a
few years now. When we're beaten over the head with
literature and with online training over gender reassignment and which
pronouns to use, of course, it's going to lend itself
to these conversations.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I totally agree with part of what you're saying. But
you got to you got to know that there's an
expectation when you're working in an intelligence agency. I'm not
saying it's not it's not a normal office environment, because
obviously it is. But when you're working in an intelligence agency,
or you're working for the military, or you're working for
a law enforcement agency or something, you've got to have here.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You get into the military and law enforcement, those jokes
will make you blush.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
But they do it personally, they do it face to face.
They do these things. I mean, I'm not I don't
want people to stop talking about this. I just don't
want them to use government chat rooms that are designed
to share information about actual task oriented you know, job
oriented stuff, to talk about getting your bottom butttom zapped
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by a laser and how appealing it is to you.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That's the part that bothers me. Well, you called me Pollyanna.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I didn't. I said, we contend we as humans tend
to be Pollyanna when we think of people in positions
that are highly placed positions, Shall we say we think
that they're all above board, and that they only have
serious conversations and that they're focused on just intelligence and
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intelligent talk and all of that, and it's not the case.
It's not true at all. And of course it's going
to spill over to these online chats when that's all
we do now. Nobody talks face to face anymore. It's
all through chats or DMS or texts or what have you.
Very little person to person communication happens anymore. And who
do you think these people are that work in the NSA.
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They're probably like twenty seven years.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Old as well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, they grew up talking to each talking to
each other in these chat rooms or on text. That's
the way they communicate.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And that's why people go by the name big Balls.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What's your screen name? Also, when you peed, you have
to point it down, like how does that work? Do
you have to like force it down or can it
just like does it? Just like?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I would kill to have instant messaging that is curated
and populated by Shannon and all the things that she says,
just even whatever pops in her head. It would be
a nice anecdote for the nonsense that goes on. My
I am take care, guys, hope your mom's.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It would be a dangerous ticket do that we could
do that. Don't wear that four hours a day. It
feels like it's already here, that's true.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Isn't it enough? Isn't it enough?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He wants to see it in his inbox? Hey, here's
what Shannon thought. Oh, frame, I have health news. I
have a quick update on health.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Are you not mine?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Not mine? Sorry? Not the Pope's health? All right?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They did say he's doing well, he's doing a little
bit better, continues to improve.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Does that mean doing a little bit better?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, the bar kind of low. They say, continues to improve,
but that there is another instance of mild renal failure.
So his kidneys are still having.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the whole kidney thing. It doesn't just go away.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Not when you're eighty eight and dealing with other stuff.
That's that's not great.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
How do you feel about Elon Musk wearing a ball
cap to the cabinet meeting? You've been very, very very
upset when people have not had fashion decorum and previously
on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's it's, first of all, it's an ill fitting baseball cap.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It is ill fitting.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
It looks cheap, it does look it's not. I bet
you it's not. I bet you it's pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You tried to buy one of those black make America
Dark Great Again?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't think I see him as not being a
guy who's label conscience. Like I think he would wear
like Amart T shirts probably well.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And there's the T shirt that he's wearing under a
sport coat says tech support. And I don't know if
this is the exact right way to put it. When
Rush Limbaugh used to come around and do shows from
individual radio stations as opposed to the network studio that
he had at his house for a long time, he
would always smoke a cigar. He didn't care if you
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lived in an area where smoking indoors was illegal, like
Seattle or Sacramento or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I'm not taking my behavioral cues from Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'm saying there's a certain level that you achieve. Dave
Chappelle is another guy. Dave Chappelle smokes say wherever he
wants to. He doesn't care if in the city of
New York at thirty Rockefeller Center it's illegal to smoke indoors,
He's gonna smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I don't know if Elon Musk has reached that level.
But doesn't that make.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You a complete a hole? Like if you think you've
reached a certain place in life that you get to
behave however the hell you want to behave rules be damned. Yes,
I mean I think that you're an awful person. Like
if I ever am that person who's like, what do
I do? What do I like to do? That's not
I don't know. Some incertain behavior here just because I've
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made it to some place like just punch me in
the face till I don't speak.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Back, Uh until.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You know if you start, if you start doing your
weird stuff in places where we public, I'm gonna call
you out.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I don't know if it makes you a bad person,
but it does make you well, I was gonna say
it makes you an a hole, but I guess that
would be the definition questionable character.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Questionable character.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, I don't like the decisions that you make. What
are you?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm saying you're the bad person and a very personal
I slowed what I did was I slowed down. I
should have just sped through the statement and nobody would
have been the wiser. You would driven me to this
apple that I was talking about. You Gary and Channon
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, this is this is gonna be a fun show.
I've already predicted it. I'm gonna set that out in
that first segment. We're gonna have fun today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, somebody's had a fun morning. What did you do
this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I watched the cabinet meeting this morning. It's actually still
going on. President Trump is holding his first cabinet meeting.
And we'll talk about it in a couple of minutes.
Because Elon Musk is in the room. He doesn't have
a seat at the table literally, he's actually sitting off
to the to the back wall. But he was the
first member of the team, I guess to speak, So
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so we'll.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We'll talk about that coming up. Tulci Gabbert.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This this little chat room that was opened up along
one of the DA Was it NSA servers or something
like that? Employees in the intelligence community who like to
do things a little differently, like this little spike. See
it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, no sex in Tulci Gabbert's NSA chat rooms.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
At least not that kind of sex apparently, as opposed
to what I don't know, I mean, the old normal
whitebread stuff. The in and out menu is opposed to
the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, I never realized the humor in the comparison
between the in and out menu and the cheesecake factory menu?
Did you ever realize that?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I never. I don't think I.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ever went in an out menu.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, well I got that part, Yes, I do understand.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I never thought about that, the triple on Tandra at
that point.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, all right, So this is the first cabinet meeting.
It's quite orwellian, isn't it. This whole Elon Musk figure
in this administration and what it means? And now he's
sitting off to the corner in the cabinet meeting. It's
all very Korean regime intrigue, isn't it about what exactly
is his role? And is he a hench dog? Right?
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And all these cabinet members are they just kind of
like walking on eggshells around him.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It is a funny storyline, if there's an expectation. I mean,
as of this week, I think there are two or
three separate articles that I saw that were predicting when
Trump is going to get rid of Elon, when he's
going to fly too close to the sun. One of
them was Elon Musk's Icarus moment, or when he's going
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to get sort of out when his story outsizes the
story of a second president Trump term and right, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Funny, you know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, both of them's predicted, the two that I can
remember off the top of my head both predicted September.
By September, Elon Musk is out shooting rockets, but it's
going to have nothing to do with the Department of
Government efficiency or anything to do with his close senior
advisor position that he currently has with the president.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That is a long leash, isn't it. Yeah, I predict July.
I mean, this is going to get to the point
where Trump is not even going to want to look
at Elon Musk's name because it's gonna be everywhere. I mean,
it already is everywhere, but right now it's kind of
in conjunction with Trump's name. But yeah, like you said,
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at one point, he's gonna eclipse Trump in terms of
just people's fascination. He's still relatively a new figure to
consume on this level. If you're not on Twitter, if
you're not involved in what's going on with aerospace and
all of that. In Tesla, he's kind of just this
goofy tech guy, right, But he's about to be mainstream.
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We pay attention every day, so we know who he has,
we've known who he is, but he's about to hit
mainstream and be the water cooler talk. And I think
when it gets to that level, Trump is gonna summa
summarily get rid of him post haste.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, And I'm curious it would be different if Trump
had a mutation for I'm going to bring in anybody
I don't care who they are and let them do
their job at the best of their ability.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
But that's not who he is. He's always been, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And he made a comment, I believe it was yesterday
in the anticipation of this cabinet meeting. Some reporter asked him,
how do you compare this cabinet, your your second term cabinet,
to the first meeting of the first cabinet in your
first term?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And he said, this one's much deeper. He's like he said.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Along the lines of I like these guys a little
bit better.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, I had some great people my second time. I
think this is deeper. I think it's better because it's deeper.
I had some people that I didn't really like too
much in my cabinet, but I didn't know Washington then.
But I was a New York person.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Now, and that lends to his.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ego is probably too small a word to talk about
his personality. But he's not going to allow you know,
think of all of those people Jeff Sessions was the
Attorney General of the United States. I mean, just give
you an idea of He is no fan of Jeff
Sessions anymore. Hr McMaster. Any number of Secretaries of State
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that he went through.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Those were all DC people. That's his point, right, these
are all DC people. I'm a New York person. He
likes stars. From what I know about Donald Trump back
when he was on reality TV, he likes to surround
himself with sparkly things a lah Elon Musk. But as
soon as that sparkle gets too bright, goodbye. Never forget that.
Trump has to be the star of the show that
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he produces. If you get too big, you get canned.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about
what Elon said today again he was the first speaker
outside of the President, and how he described this whole
five bullet point email thing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's very simple when it comes from him. Let him explain.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Temperatures today here in so Cal expected to be about
ten to twenty degrees above normal and tomorrow Tomorrow is
going to be even warmer.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They're expecting some record high temperatures.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But by the time we get around to Sunday and
the oscars, they said it could be raining. Storm expected
to roll through on Friday, could give us a little
bit more rain over the weekend. So and then the
other thing, finally, the up in the skies. Seven planets
all visible in the night sky tonight and tomorrow night
(06:23):
and maybe into Friday. It's called the Planetary Parade. They said,
it's going to be the last time that seven planets
can be seen simultaneously so well until the year twenty
forty March.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Cool Uranus, Venus, Neptune, Mercury, and Saturn.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I'm gonna have to get out my planet app that
you just pointed at the sky. You point your phone
at the sky and tells you what planet you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Basically, Cool is that saturnded.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm here to Saturn's going to be the hardest, just
because it's going to be low in the horizon. You
might need a telescope to also spot Uranus and neptune.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I love it up here in the Bay Area. For
some reason, the sky is so much clearer at night
than it is where I live down there. Anyway, did
you hear about the rfkaid? I love that this new
term you've been rfkaid.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, of course.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The new director of the Health and Human Services Department,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior shake Shack says that they have
rfkaid their French fries. They are no longer going to
be using vegetable oil for cooking their French fries. Are
any restaurants nationwide beef tallow or something beef tallow? Gary,
(07:39):
I'm glad we're doing this now so we can get
it out of the way before Deborah gets here. Beef
tallow is rendered from beef fat. It's called beef drippings.
It's made by removing, simmering and clarifying the fatty tissue
surrounding the organs of cows, goats, and deer. Rfk Junior
has been pushing the country away from using vegetable oil,
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saying that we're being poisoned by the seed oils and
now we're moving to the beef tallow. Yum, yum, yum.
Give me all the beef drippings right on my fries. See.
This is why I tell Debora to be careful when
John brings her the in and out fries, which I
know are just covered in beef tallow. She says they
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cook them separately.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'm like, mmmmm, sure they do well. This cabinet meeting
is going on right now.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
President Trump is holding his first cabinet meeting of his
second term, and he's answering a bunch of questions. Number one,
just during the commercial break, he did say that Ukrainian
President's Lensky will be here in the United States and
is likely to sign that minerals deal, which gives us
the United States a share of minerals that they sell
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and will help fund the ongoing supply of weapons, etc.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That the United States has been giving.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
The other thing is Elon Musk was first to speak
in this cabinet meeting outside of the president and was
explaining not just the members of the cabinet, but also
reporters who are in the room about what was going
on with that five bullet point email.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think that email perhaps was best interpreted as a
performance review, but actually it was a pulse check review.
Do you have a pulse? You have a pulse at
two neurons, So if you have a pulse into a neurons,
you can reply to an email.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He also said that the email was born out of
the President suggesting to Elon to be a little bit
more bold, a little bit more aggressive, And.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I said, can we send out an email to or
one just saying what did you get done last week?
And the President said yes, So they did that, and
you know, we got the partial response. We're going to
send another email. But our goal is not to be
capricious or unfair. It's we want to give people every
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opportunity to send an email. And the email could simply
be what I'm working on, too sensitible, class fight to describe,
like literally, just that would be sufficient. You know, I
think this is just common sense.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You asked yesterday how many people would reply. Last night
I saw that more than a million people, more than
a million federal workers, had replied to the email. And
that was long before the deadline had come up, so
they weren't sure exactly what the total number was going
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But again, was that like, there's almost half. Almost half.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, and then on top of that, if if more
of them came in right up to the deadline, then
obviously that would be more than half. But his point
was this, this should not have been a difficult subject.
It's not a difficult question to describe what you did
last week and see your boss on it, your your
immediate supervisor, which, like we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's annoying that somebody like Elon musk is your accountability boss,
tell me what you did. Who the hell are you?
Screw you? You're not my boss. But just send the
But then okay, yeah, that's annoying, that's silly, But then
just do the word. Just send the email. I thought
this was funny that came out of the cabinet meeting.
You know how Trump loves nicknames, right you think about
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James Mattis, the Defense secretary. He called him mad Dog Mattis.
By the way, Mattis hated that name. Fun fact. Now,
Trump notes in this meeting that his choice to become
the next chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff Lieutenant
General Dan Cain. His nickname, Trump said today is Raisin Cain.
Trump said today, as soon as I heard his name,
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I said, I like that guy.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I like his chicken fingers. He's really great at chicken fingers.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This, oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that
branding opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
This meeting will continue and if anything comes out of it,
well we'll bring it to you. Of course, we'll revisit
when we get up into into swamp watch. One of
the things that has happened is Tulci Gabbard, the new
Director of National Intelligence, has fired more than one hundred
different intelligence officers from fifteen different agencies for a chat
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room that blossomed up and was sort of a playground
for some of the more interesting sexual predilections. President also
yesterday wanted to begin selling said he wanted to begin
selling gold card visas with a price tag of five
million dollars for people who want to come to the
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United States and create jobs. And he said this immigration program,
which he believes is legal, could start in as little
as as two weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Michelle Trachtenberg has died just thirty nine years old. Actress
that was in Gossip Girl as Georgina. She was in
euro Trip, obviously a cult following there. She was in
Buffy and a number of things. Thirty nine years old.
Was apparently having some some issues. Is so her death
(13:01):
is not being investigated as suspicious. She was found around
eight am this morning in her luxury apartment in Central
Park South there in New York. I said she had
posted a series of troubling photos in recent months on Instagram.
She appeared gaunt frail, prompting some fans to comment about
her startling weight loss, asking if she was on drugs
as well, but very sad, very coming of age type
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actress in the nineties, early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah you said, thirty nine, Yeah wow. Gavin Newsom is
going to hold a news conference at eleven o'clock hour today,
says he's going to unveil a major statewide economic initiative,
including new funding and some targeted support to accelerate the
economic recovery after our fires. That's coming up eleven thirty,
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top of the hour. By the way, we're going to
talk about the absolute can we call it an s storm?
Whatever's going on with Karen Bass and the fire airing
of fire Chief Kristen Crowley, and how many people are
pushing back against it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The funny thing about scapegoats, you kind of got to
make an escape scapegoat right away, don't you hope that
they kind of goes away. This has not gone away
for Karen Bass. Maybe the beginning of the end for her.
We'll have to get into it. Tulci Gabbard, the new
Director of National Intelligence, said today that more than one
hundred intelligence officers from fifteen agencies had been fired for
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having sexually explicit discussions on a government chat tool.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Is not at all to America. It is not to
the American people or the Constitution. It is to themselves.
And these are exactly the kind of people that we
need to root out, get rid of, so that the
patriots who do work in this area, who are committed
to our core mission can actually focus on that.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is this like our I don't know, because I don't
engage in our own company chat program? Is it like
the teams type thing that people try to get started
with us?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I guess so, only because I don't. It's hard for
me to understand exactly. But even if that was the case,
even if it was just a simple tool, like our
corporation uses Microsoft Teams for a lot of these meetings,
et cetera. How would you find this chat, this very
specific chat topic, and then use it to and then
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think to yourself that you'd be able to get away
with it, because listen, I don't think it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Was one topic though, was it. I mean, I think
it sounds like it was pretty pervasive of just people
running fast and loose with what they were saying. Well,
you said discussions that contain sexual themes. Chats often included
explicit discussion of gender transition surgery as well, Oh my god,
that's like the Holy Grail. You can't touch that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
We get a little notice and when we log into
our computers every day that says, hey, just so you know,
the corporation has access to everything that you use this
computer for, right and for in your case, they try
to scrub your browser. But we know that working in
a dumb place like this, those people are literally working
for the intelligence agencies of the United States and nobody.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They still have something of humor. They still do balls jokes,
just like we do this. They're just like us.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
This was beyond balls jokes at least.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
How do you know? Tell me give me details. I
didn't find any in the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You haven't seen any of the discussions.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So it was it was about these people living out
and again it's all personal stuff, but they're living out
their dream of having transitioned, what it's like to have
breasts for the first time, or what it was like
to get a double mass dectomy.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
So I could appear male.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean that kind of stuff which clearly has no nothing,
but it has nothing to do with your job. And
why would you put that on a discussion group in
when you're working for an intelligence agent.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let me play Devil's advocate. Everything has gone online, people
are working from home. Are you still having the same
conversations with co workers online using these teams, platforms or
whatever the platform the NSA uses. Are you still having
conversations with people you work with when you're working from
home that may involve outside topics? Probably?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Probably, But I also understand that the corporation has every
right to come after me and say you cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean, if you're siting.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
More information about like what was talked about, I mean,
do you have any examples?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I can find I read through them yesterday. I can
find a couple of them for you.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's like, how egregious are we talking about? Like you know,
you know, I want Sarah in accounting naked in front
of me? Or is it Sarah in accounting is going
through the change? How cool for her? I wonder what
that feels like. I mean, how agreed to? Are they threatening?
Are they too sexual? Or is it just mentioning sex
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changes or what have you in a polite professional way.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't know. But even then, what does that have
to do? Here you go?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
They discussed hair removal, estrogen injections, the experience of sexual
pleasure post castration.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We've all talked about these things. Does it still work
the same way?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Getting my bottom?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'll just say that zapped by a laser was shocking,
said someone. Another one said, look, I just enjoy helping
other people experience boobs. One other one said, one of
the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when I urinate,
I don't have to push anything down to make sure
it aims right.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I would welcome these conversations in the workplace. How many
people have undergone.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The surgery about a normal workplace.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
We're not talking about the uh, I don't know, the
script writing room over at NBC. You're talking about the
intelligence community in the you know what.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Here's the thing. We are such pollyannas sometimes, so we
hold up specific professions as holier than now. People that
you would think are so above board and they're so
serious and they're so committed to keeping the country safe
and that's what they live and work and breathe and bleed.
That is not the case. We are all the freaking
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same I mean, Pete, the same jokes that we make
you're gonna hear at the nssay. These are people who
are just like everybody else. And if the topic of
gender reassignment surgery is floating around like it does in
governmental spaces the way it does, I mean we've had
to take training about it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We have.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's been like this, this thing that the government has
been a obsessed with, locally, statewide, nationwide for like a
few years now. When we're beaten over the head with
literature and with online training over gender reassignment and which
pronouns to use, of course, it's going to lend itself
to these conversations.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I totally agree with part of what you're saying. But
you got to you got to know that there's an
expectation when you're working in an intelligence agency. I'm not
saying it's not it's not a normal office environment, because
obviously it is. But when you're working in an intelligence agency,
or you're working for the military, or you're working for
a law enforcement agency or something, you've got to have here.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You get into the military and law enforcement, those jokes
will make you blush.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
But they do it personally, they do it face to face.
They do these things. I mean, I'm not I don't
want people to stop talking about this. I just don't
want them to use government chat rooms that are designed
to share information about actual task oriented you know, job
oriented stuff, to talk about getting your bottom butttom zapped
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by a laser and how appealing it is to you.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That's the part that bothers me. Well, you called me Pollyanna.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I didn't. I said, we contend we as humans tend
to be Pollyanna when we think of people in positions
that are highly placed positions, Shall we say we think
that they're all above board, and that they only have
serious conversations and that they're focused on just intelligence and
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intelligent talk and all of that, and it's not the case.
It's not true at all. And of course it's going
to spill over to these online chats when that's all
we do now. Nobody talks face to face anymore. It's
all through chats or DMS or texts or what have you.
Very little person to person communication happens anymore. And who
do you think these people are that work in the NSA.
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They're probably like twenty seven years.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Old as well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, they grew up talking to each talking to
each other in these chat rooms or on text. That's
the way they communicate.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And that's why people go by the name big Balls.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What's your screen name? Also, when you peed, you have
to point it down, like how does that work? Do
you have to like force it down or can it
just like does it? Just like?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I would kill to have instant messaging that is curated
and populated by Shannon and all the things that she says,
just even whatever pops in her head. It would be
a nice anecdote for the nonsense that goes on. My
I am take care, guys, hope your mom's.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It would be a dangerous ticket do that we could
do that. Don't wear that four hours a day. It
feels like it's already here, that's true.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Isn't it enough? Isn't it enough?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He wants to see it in his inbox? Hey, here's
what Shannon thought. Oh, frame, I have health news. I
have a quick update on health.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Are you not mine?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Not mine? Sorry? Not the Pope's health? All right?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They did say he's doing well, he's doing a little
bit better, continues to improve.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Does that mean doing a little bit better?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, the bar kind of low. They say, continues to improve,
but that there is another instance of mild renal failure.
So his kidneys are still having.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the whole kidney thing. It doesn't just go away.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Not when you're eighty eight and dealing with other stuff.
That's that's not great.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
How do you feel about Elon Musk wearing a ball
cap to the cabinet meeting? You've been very, very very
upset when people have not had fashion decorum and previously
on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It's it's, first of all, it's an ill fitting baseball cap.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It is ill fitting.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
It looks cheap, it does look it's not. I bet
you it's not. I bet you it's pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You tried to buy one of those black make America
Dark Great Again?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't think I see him as not being a
guy who's label conscience. Like I think he would wear
like Amart T shirts probably well.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And there's the T shirt that he's wearing under a
sport coat says tech support. And I don't know if
this is the exact right way to put it. When
Rush Limbaugh used to come around and do shows from
individual radio stations as opposed to the network studio that
he had at his house for a long time, he
would always smoke a cigar. He didn't care if you
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lived in an area where smoking indoors was illegal, like
Seattle or Sacramento or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I'm not taking my behavioral cues from Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'm saying there's a certain level that you achieve. Dave
Chappelle is another guy. Dave Chappelle smokes say wherever he
wants to. He doesn't care if in the city of
New York at thirty Rockefeller Center it's illegal to smoke indoors,
He's gonna smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I don't know if Elon Musk has reached that level.
But doesn't that make.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You a complete a hole? Like if you think you've
reached a certain place in life that you get to
behave however the hell you want to behave rules be damned. Yes,
I mean I think that you're an awful person. Like
if I ever am that person who's like, what do
I do? What do I like to do? That's not
I don't know. Some incertain behavior here just because I've
(25:34):
made it to some place like just punch me in
the face till I don't speak.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Back, Uh until.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
You know if you start, if you start doing your
weird stuff in places where we public, I'm gonna call
you out.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I don't know if it makes you a bad person,
but it does make you well, I was gonna say
it makes you an a hole, but I guess that
would be the definition questionable character.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Questionable character.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, I don't like the decisions that you make. What
are you?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm saying you're the bad person and a very personal
I slowed what I did was I slowed down. I
should have just sped through the statement and nobody would
have been the wiser. You would driven me to this
apple that I was talking about. You Gary and Channon
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Just type in Gary Channon, what kind of apple?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You never answered my pea Questionney Chris.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Jump off and now we're up against the break again.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh well, here we go.
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