February 26, 2025 • 29 mins
Gary and Shannon bring you the latest news out of Washington D.C. including Trumps first Cabinet meeting. Gary and Shannon also talk all things parenting with Justin Worsham.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Breaking news out of Hollywood today,
Michelle Trachtenberg, just thirty nine years old, was found dead.
They're saying now that her body may have rejected the
liver transplant she received within the last year, causing complications.
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Her mother found her, of course, Michelle Trachtenberg. She was
in Gossip Girl, Buffy the Vamfire Slayer euro Trip Gossip.
I already mentioned that police sources have confirmed that its
natural causes. The exact cause remains unclear. Police and paramedics
responded to a call for a woman in cardiac arrest
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found her unresponsive dead on the scene. She was pronounced
she had been known to struggle with alcohol and again
had that liver transplant recently within the last year.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Internationally, we know that Hama said it's going to prepare
to release it the last four Israeli hostage bodies included
in the initial phase of this ceasefire deal. In Israeli
official confirmed that they were going to receive the bodies
would be eleven o'clock local time. I believe so that
would be I think it's one o'clock our time. Israel
had previously refused to release the more than six hundred
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Palestinian prisoners and deteenies last weekend because they accused Tamas
of breaching the ceasefire deal by those ridiculous public parading
of the hostages in Gaza before they would turn home
over to the Red Cross, and Egyptian officials who have
been working on this ceasefire have apparently gotten promises from
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Hamas that they won't be doing that again.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
In DC, it's time for swamp watching a politician, which
means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm still in that lollipops.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, we got. The real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I'm not going anywhere. So that is how you train the.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been guman act.
They're not stupid.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Have the people voted for you were not swap watch,
They're all countero.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
President Trump has previewed as plans for a new visa
gold card, describing it as somewhat like a Green card,
but at a higher level of sophistication.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He was signing his latest round of executive orders yesterday,
one of them related to terras on copper imports. Lutnick
Howard Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary, and explained that this
Trump gold Card, as he called it, would replace the
EB five visa, which would also or does also provide
a pathway to citizenship for a wealthy foreign investor, but
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has been an avenue for fraud a lot of places.
Lutnick implied that the administration would be more discerning as
to who would qualify for the gold card, and the
plan is not just we don't want to just get
a bunch of rich people in here.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Obviously their money would be.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great, but it's the idea that they would be smart
enough business owners that they would then turn around and
create jobs in the United States. Is it as simple
as saying it's a five hundred dollars price tag on this,
I don't know. I don't know if that passes legal
muster or if there would be rules against that sort
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of thing when it comes to immigration.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But did you say five hundred or did I have
an aneurysm. No.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I may have said five hundred, but five million is the.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Feeds a million dollars. It's for very high level people
for their route to citizenship. We're going to make sure
they're wonderful, world class global citizens what Nick said. Trump added,
it will be people with money and people that create jobs.
Asked whether a Russian oligarch might be eligible for a
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gold card, Trump seemed amused, Yeah, he replied possibly. He said, hey,
I know some Russian oligarchs that are nice people, if possible,
and then he said they're not as wealthy as they
used to be, but I think they can afford five
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Secretary Lutnik did say that they would have to go
through a vetting, of course, to make sure that they
are wonderful, world class global citizens, and Lutnik is using
the exact same language that his boss is. It sounds
like more than twenty civil service employees resigned from the
Department of Government Efficiency, saying that they're refusing to use
their technical expertise to dismantle critical public services is what
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they see.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
These are the tech workers who are not the doze
rising young stars of Elon Musk's choosing. These are tech
workers that have already been in the federal government and
are raising their hands and saying, we are not using
our skills in the tech world to dismantle what this
country is built on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Essentially, Yeah, they resigned from the US Digital Service, which
is an that was established during Obama's administration after the
incredibly cocked up rollout of the healthcare dot gov web
portal that they completely blew. And again, that's proof that
the government is not good at some things, and this
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was one of those things that the government was not
good at. There's an interesting aspect This story specifically kind
of crystallizes something that I've been thinking about but couldn't
quite put into words.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Seth Moulten, Yes, that's Seth Moulton ran for president. Seth
Moulten talk.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
To everyone remembers that it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Talks about the importance of having an actual plea. You
can't just complain about Elon Musk and Doge. You got
to have a plan.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Actually, the last time there was a big push for
government efficiency, it was under Clinton and Gore, and it
was a widely praised effort. Saved hundreds of billions of dollars,
but didn't create the chaos that Musk is creating today.
My case is Democrats need another plan like that. Do
what Clinton and Gore did, show that we want to
reform government too. We're just going to be more responsible
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about going about it, and we can rather than just
complain about Musk.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now, there's a thing about that he's going that's going
on that I thought he brought to light. I couldn't
crystallize it until he said that. This is similar to
Republicans saying we've got to do away with Obamacare. It's
an absolute mess, it's not doing anybody any favors, but
then not having a plan to replace it with. And
Democrats right now are saying Elon Musk is tearing apart government.
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He shouldn't be going after the waste, fraud, and abuse,
he shouldn't be cutting these programs or these workers, et cetera.
But then they don't have a program to do just
those things. They don't have it. That's set up.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, it's like most people, they don't like the way
things are, but then they don't want change, you know.
It's there was a memo that was distributed today by
Trump his administration that federal agencies must develop plans to
eliminate employee positions. So now they're putting the onus on
the federal agencies. Come up with your own hatchet plan.
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They say, it's going to be a sweeping realignment of
American government. The memo expands Trump's effort to downsize the
federal workforce. He's described it as an impediment to his agenda.
Thousands of sorry probationary employees have already been fired, and
now they're looking at people who have civil service protection
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and get ready for the lawsuits. We're cutting down the
size of government, he says. We have to. We're bloated,
we're sloppy, we have people that are not doing their jobs.
So in this memo this morning, it says agencies are
directed to submit by March thirteenth their plans for what
is known as reduction in force, which would not only
lay off employees, but eliminate the positions all together, which
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would be extensive changes in how government functions. Going to
get rid of a lot of people, and then you're
going to have to come up with new protocols in
all those departments.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The White House says that that large bruise that is
on the back of President Trump's right hand is from
him shaking so many hands.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
He shakes a lot of hands. He shakes hands all day,
every day, is what they say.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
He has had visible bruising or redness on his right
hand on at least two other occasions, in August and
November of last year, which obviously would have been right
in this middle of campaigning stuff. Bruises on his hand
were also noted by various news outlets last year, and
Time magazine quoted Trump in twenty in December of twenty four,
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saying it's from shaking hands with thousands of people.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Daily mail, which is the bastion of journalism as we
know it, ran to a doctor named doctor Stuart Fisher.
Stuart Fisher says that while an aggressive handshake could be
partly to blame, that his age may also provide a clue.
We all know this. We've all had relatives that have
bruises or age spots that look like bruises on their hands.
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I've got a couple of them, he says. The doctor
that old age naturally weakens blood vessels, makes them more brittle,
which makes bruising on any part of the body much
more likely and severe. That osteo arthritis of course breaks
down cartilage and bone and the joints. That could be
another possibility. It can cause easy bruising or discoloration that
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affects joints in the hand. The doctor says he thinks
it's probably all of those things together.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If you look on social media, which is also a
great idea, the suggestion is that this was an IV.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That bruise.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It put an IV on the top of the hand
there and that left a bruise when they removed it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But rich people get dehydration ivs like every day. It's
a thing. It keeps your energy up, you keep those
B twelve shots in. It's a thing. So that also
would not be out of the realm of possibility. And
it wouldn't be like he needed an IV because he's
near death or he's experiencing health problems. It's probably just
because you get a little you get a little boost,
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you get a little hydration. Especially with all the diet
cokese he drinks, probably doesn't drink.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
A lot of water.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I won't be surprised if he got regular hydration ivs.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Are you worried about him?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No, Okay, I just said, I wouldn't be surprised if
he just gets regular hydration IVS.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I know, but that consistent dehydration could be an issue too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No, no, no, it's not like dehydration that can put you
in the hospital. It's just you know, you've seen those places.
They've popped up everywhere now, the hydration therapy. They're in
like strip malls and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The only time I think I've even recognized them was Vegas.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
They're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Sure, yeah, there is a proposal, and I want to
throw this in there only because it's weird. State assembly
Member Rick Chavez Burr introduced a bill last week to
substantially narrow the legal justification for homicide in California. Homicide
is just person on person death. Basically, the term for
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murder actually is illegal homicide, which would mean that there
are legal homicides that are there. For example, if your
life is threatened, you can defend yourself. But they talk
about this bill. Homicide would no longer be justifiable when
it's committed in defensive property or habitation. So somebody could
break into your house, you can't shoot them unless they
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are killing you, or unless they're about to kill you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Kamala Harris said she was going to shoot you if
you broke into her home.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, this is one of those things that it doesn't
make sense to me because I don't know who the
victim is in this case or who assembly Member Rick
Chavez ber is trying to protect.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Are you trying to protect the people who just happen
to break into a house to steal stuff, that's who
you're trying to protect.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Or you're trying to protect.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The law abiding homeowner who wants to protect his fam
And how do I know when you break into my
house in the middle of the night what your intentions are?
And do I have to wait until you try to
kill me before I defend myself.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
That's why you need to get a burn a gun.
You can shoot them, name them and not kill them,
but they won't be breaking into your house again.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, Gun safety advocates said this bill is a way
to prevent armed extremism and vigilante violence. You're not walking
down the street and shooting people. This is if you
are threatened. If someone threatens to you, sorry, it is
a threat to you. It's criminalizing home defense. It's protecting
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the bad guys again. And uh, yeah, I don't know,
and I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That's what you were going to say, Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I do like that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I wonder if if you named a kid a certain name,
if he or she would be more apt to to
shoot people.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What if you named your kids Spider something like that,
or Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Or something Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Just thinking of mafia hit.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think I'm gonna give my baby some time to
develop its nickname in the mafia world. You're gonna think, yeah, exactly.
Justin worship Is with us, host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We like talking parenting things.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The idea of naming your kid is obviously probably step
two or three of being a parent, right in the responsibility.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I like that sequence. I'm afraid to ask what one
number one is?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You gotta make it?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There you go, thanks Gary, or buy it?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, I don't know how people get their kids these. Yeah,
that's true, but step two or.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Three is gonna be okay, So what are we gonna
call this thing?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And there's a lot you're setting up your kid for
financial failure if if you don't pick these top five names.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yep, yeah, if you if you named your kid uh Anna, Maria, Laura, Helen.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Or Sarah, you did good for them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They're gonna do a good female.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah, they're gonna do. They're gonna be great financially. For
the guys, it's Andrew, Sam Alex, Christopher and Darren.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But my husband, I mean, I'm sorry, my brother. That's
a weird slip. My brother's name is Andrew, right at
the top of the list.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Zoom number one. Well, guess what, borrow some money from bro.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
He's loaded.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And then if you're doing poorly. Karen's taken a lot
of hits in these last few years.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
She topped the list of struggling financially, probably because she's
calling the cops on people that now deserve to be
She's getting a lot of lawsuits, so she's got she's
got a lot of retain.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh, Claire, Lisa, Jennifer and Rachel. And then for guys
Allie and Rob, Dan, Chris and Dominic. Which is interesting
because if you shorten it from Christopher, not so good financially,
but if you got the full toafer going on, you were,
you're thriving as a guy.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's just the most ridiculous circle. I've ever read that
in my life. It's insane and ps. Claire is a strong,
firm name. I don't think. I don't think of Claire
as a financial failure. I don't see Claire as somebody
who's in a gutter in financial ruin. But that's how
Claire doesn't live on skid row.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That's how strong Claire is.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
She can make you believe she's thriving when in actuality,
deep down, she's struggling.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
She needs a hug.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, she's not. Claire has a matching sweater set and
a string of pearls on.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, but she's financed. They're all on credit card debt. Shannon, Oh,
maybe that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you Claire is
not okay. If you have a friend named Claire, you
need to call her and make sure she's okay and
buy her lunch.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
She's not going to split yes about Claire.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But they don't even there's no there's no connection, I
mean right, I mean they can't establish what the connection
would be between these names and films.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
They just basically went through and looked at social security
data and figured out who was thriving. Financially and what
the most common names were about for those people that
were thriving financially, and then technically you should all be fired.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Those people should be elon musk. If your job is
to go through Social Security data and find out what
the first name is successful.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
This is a This is a college funded study, So
I don't think this is actually from the federal government.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What was it. I think it was Brigham Yell.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Go back to the Mormons.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
College closed, but they did.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's funny they did kind of what I The reason.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Why I brought this to you guys is for just
the funny of just laughing that your name has anything
to do with your financial success. But I also think
it's a reflection of what I feel that these anks
written parents go through. That we've now added icing onto
a cake, which is this is probably more of a
multiple flower icing flower that's being added on top of
the cake of like things you should worry about. You
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failed your kid because you didn't name them Anna, right,
You would have just named them Anna.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Listen, there's pressure in the process of naming the kid already.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I think that's your point.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And in terms of what we were saying, what my
wife and I were saying when we were doing this
exercise of what would you even begin? Would you want
a family name? Would you want to name it after
your grandfather? Like? What, how do you even begin? There's
plenty of pressure. You got it, and you should cut
down on the rules. The rules are basically for me,
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the rules were, I'm not going to name my son
anything close to one of your ex boyfriends.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That was really the only thing I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That is not ridiculous because she's had so many boyfriends
that the list was pretty small.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
See, this is why I brought this. I didn't know.
This was an undintended consequence. Look at how much fun
we're having.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's such an early twenties thing, like I'm not what
are your ex boyfriends name?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
The fun game I named with I played with my
wife is that my wife had been talking about like
all the girl names, Kiara, Noel, these were all names
that she was thrown around, and Kiara was my favorite.
And so when we bought our house, we adopted this
kind of feral kitten that had lived in the park
across the street and walk up to us, and so
she was.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Like, oh, let's keep the kitten. I was like, you
know what your neighbor is Kiara. That's one of the
names you like.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And my wife is so caught up in the emotional
She's like, that's a great idea, and I'm like, great.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
We never have a daughter named Kiara now.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And then an electric fence was built around the name Kiara.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It is so manipulative.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I know, I know, I'm very I'm very very rarely
am I good at it?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That like, especially my wife peace of who you are?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I know, but it felt so strong. Oh my god,
wait a minute, hold on. I have never felt more
alive than that day.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I don't think that's an immature thing to say, is
you can't name my son after ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm not saying it's immature. I'm saying that, like in
my early twenties, I was more obsessed with like like
my boyfriend or now husband or whatever it was with
their exes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I was more Yeah, she's saying it was a sign
of the time of your age. You're right, because because
if I look, yes, because right now, if I look
three years previous, I'm the only person that my wife
has had sex with.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'm not even.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Thinking about it in your forties or whatever, right, and
when I'm twenty one, yes, I may not be the
only person on that list three years. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm sorky, all right, good, like.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You know what's funny about me? As soon as you
said it, I agreed. I was just like I would
have never thought of that. I'm so glad my maaming
I dotched that bullet.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And the thing is her most I think the boyfriend
that she had before me was also named Andy, and
if that had happened, and like, we named our kid
and I know five million andies now and they all
haunt me because they.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Remind me of my my wife's sex boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I was afraid one of them was going to be
named Alvin, and so she found a loophole with Calvin.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Or Alan or something.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The best part of that is like, and I think
kind of we have a magnetic quality about us. Gary,
Like one of your best friend's name is Andy now, right,
And I think also there's this weird thing that that
just happens. I call you Andy sometimes. My brother's name
is Andy.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And it hurts every time.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And I do that sometimes. I haven't done it in
a long time, But there's something to be said. When
you really don't want something, sometimes the universe.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Does and it hurts because you're not as financially successful as.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The other thing is that my in laws for the
first year that my wife and I were dating, they
called me and no way, absolutely, no, yeah, and they
wouldn't even catch on. Like I remember distinctly, we were
sitting in the backseat of a car. We're going with
them to I had to be dinner somewhere, and we
were visiting them while they were in Seattle and we
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were living in Sacramento, and her mom, my now mother
in law, kind of spun around and was like, so, Andy,
what was it like at work this week? And I
mean direct eye contact and everything, and no, I was like,
nobody was talking to me.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Nobody on this planet is better, by the way than
your Shannon. And like the comedic response take to that
of just like I just imagined going stiff and just
lowering her head at a.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Forty five and.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, my wife said, My wife corrected her right away,
She's like, his name is Gary, And to her credit,
my mother in law now mother in law, was mortified.
But and she said it like at dinner time, I'm
really sorry for calling you that I didn't. I didn't
and my wife then again, she pops up, she's like,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Do it all the time. No, we don't, and yes
you do.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
How long were they together?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Gosh, that's a great question. I don't know. Months.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's it's so weird. And I said, how long were
Shannon and Andy together? Because my whole life it's been
Shannon and Andy, Shannon and Andy.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, we'll try living my life where I go
home and they're like, who who? When I went to
get notarized yesterday's signature and they're like, who's who's signing today?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And I said, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Don't forget to download the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
They together.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think it was a year plus. I don't know.
I honestly don't know. He just got a list. He
didn't get time, pranks.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He just needed seems like it's enough time for the
mother or the father to continually call the new one
the old one.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And nice, and that's what.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Similar.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't think we have time to go into this
blonde hair. He's also addicted to porn. But that's sorry.
I couldn't just let that. Yeah, you had to take
a shot at him. You won, Garrett, It's okay. You wondorn.
The study that reveals that parents do have a favorite child,
and to break it down, by U and Western University
looked at all of these different things. Kids who are
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favored tend to have better mental health, to do better
in school, to have better family relationships.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's the cause or the effect of being a favorite
or but they also said that the older child and
often girls, yes, tend to be the favorite child.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Daughters predominantly are favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And this is what I love is bringing this in
is that both of you guys have siblings that, like,
you have a sister, Shannon has a brother.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Do you think that your sister got favorite of treatment.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think they at times did get the favorite treatment, Yeah,
but for different reasons. I mean, one of them was
very school minded and driven and was the first to
graduate college because she was older. But but and then
the other one was very sporty, like she was super.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Involved and.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, and then I was like, hey, there's there's that
guy keeps showing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Up at our house every day.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That was the opinion on you.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah, Shannon, do you think that you got I think,
like Gary, you're a rule follower, like before you got here.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Justin we were talking about it and Gary said that
his parents routinely told him that he was the favorite.
And and I think that you are really good with
following rules and not getting like you get into the
correct amount of trouble without being a like a problem
or a problem or a worry. Yeah, whereas your sisters
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there was two of them. Girls are kind of tricky
boys a lot of the time. I think probably get
the bad rap because they're little boys, and they're all
over the place, and they're dirty, and they're not rule followers,
and they're you know, they're rambunctious, and that's just what
little boys are. And I think that that's probably it.
Girls are probably more self contained for the most part.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, because what I've heard is that like daughters feel
like they aren't that the brother always has more leeway,
particularly like going out to parties and dating, because for
whatever reason, parents worry less about their sons, but brothers
feel like the girls get away with more because they
get treated with a little bit more mittens and like
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and tenderly than the boy would.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's like, and I think the other thing that this
article kind of talks about, which I kind of agree with,
is that this is really about a kid's perception. This
opened my eyes because I think if you were to
ask me until recently, I would probably if I had to,
like gun to my head, I had to pick a
favorite kid, it would be my older son until recently.
Now my younger son is probably more my favorite because
he's employed. I've decided that having a child.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
In two weeks.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, I've decided that having a child that has a
job is my new favorite thing about being a father.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's the thing we were talking about, too, is how
it changes, like your favorite kid changes.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
My dad said.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
The way he I asked him, and I know I've
said this multiple times here is that I said, do
you really have a favorite? And he was like, you
don't have a favorite, You just always have. It rotates
who you're worried about, Like there's always he said, there's
always one of you that your mom and I are
worried about. And then when that one starts to like rally,
he goes, you don't stop worrying because now you're like
looking at the other two of going Okay, which what's
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going to happen to you two now because all three
of you are never thriving at the same time.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Like, it just doesn't work out that way. Yeah, and
we've used the quote before. I heard it said by
Heraldo Rivera, but I don't know if he was the
one who originated it, which is your never as you're
only as happy as your unhappiest child, and that, I
mean that kind of plays into it. There you go
back and forth, they go through different light and depending
on how old they are too, if there's a wide
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age separation, they're going to go through different life stages
at very different times and give you sort of the
roller coaster effect of got to pay attention to this
one as she's a preteen, but that guy's going to
be an you know, late adolescent.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
What's happening with their and vice versa.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Because like like it says, the more agreeable child is
also usually the more favorite, which is I think what
Shannon's saying about you. I would also say that about
my older son. It's just always been easier for me
to talk to my older son. He's like me, he
likes to talk things out. My younger son is like
my wife. He holds it in if he's upset and
you have to pull it out of him. But I
would also argue that if you're talking about favoritism my
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older son, I think thinks that we favor the younger
one because I have to try, I have to put
in an effort to get things out of my younger son,
whereas I don't have to do anything with my older
son to feel like I have, like that he knows
that there's a connection there. I guess I don't know,
but it's all perception. Nothing is real, because how do
you sit down and have a sincere conversation about who
do you think mom and dad love more?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right? And when I talked about it last week, there
were people who were upset that I would even entertain
the thought of telling one of my children that they
were my favorite, Like, what good is that? You're just
going to sew division between the two of them, which
I've never I want to tell these people shut up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, I would never.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Also, I don't think I would ever seriously say to them, Hey,
it's like, sit them both down and go. You know
it's been bugging me for a long time. You I
hate you, But she I like her? She for you're
a moron, but he's really got his stuff together right now, and.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Listen, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not
perfect or do we all this great? But I'll tell
you like, we have videos of my wife telling me
she was pregnant with each of our sons, and with
the second one, it was not a happy moment. It
was definitely like we were struggling financially. And after the video,
she goes, should I delete this, like basically erasing the evidence?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And I said no, I said, because yes, this is.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Kind of like a oh crap moment, But in reality,
I go, if this kid looks at this video at
twenty two years of age and doesn't laugh at it
because he has spent the last twenty two years of
his life being loved and growing in this family and
being supported, then yeah, we were hosted to begin with.
And that video didn't change any of it. Like that
doesn't make any difference, I said, so I think it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Is what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
And both of my sons have listened to both all
of my comedy albums, which is just me jokingly like
making fun of being them and talking about how bad
being a dad is, and they laugh like, I don't
think it really matters. It matters when it's like when
I guess it's real, Like I think if you genuinely
told your kids, like.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Oh, you're my favorite, I don't think it's really that sincere.
You know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's really sweet that your kids have listened to your albums.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Oh it scared me. My dad played them when he
brought him home.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
He played all three of them when they were like
four and seven, and I'm like, Dad, did you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Give any context?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
He's like, no, I just thought theyd get a kick
out of hearing their dad do what he does, and
they still to this day.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, they like it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
They think it's funny, like which I agree, Shannon, it does.
It warms my heart.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But your point also is they probably don't take it seriously.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
They don't. They know much. I love them.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I cry at everything they do, and I hug them
all the time. Again, like this idea that we worry
that the kids don't feel like you love them, I
start crying right now.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I already am.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
As the greatest affter half an hour. Thank you, justin.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
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They're saying now that her body may have rejected the
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Her mother found her, of course, Michelle Trachtenberg. She was
in Gossip Girl, Buffy the Vamfire Slayer euro Trip Gossip.
I already mentioned that police sources have confirmed that its
natural causes. The exact cause remains unclear. Police and paramedics
responded to a call for a woman in cardiac arrest
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found her unresponsive dead on the scene. She was pronounced
she had been known to struggle with alcohol and again
had that liver transplant recently within the last year.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Internationally, we know that Hama said it's going to prepare
to release it the last four Israeli hostage bodies included
in the initial phase of this ceasefire deal. In Israeli
official confirmed that they were going to receive the bodies
would be eleven o'clock local time. I believe so that
would be I think it's one o'clock our time. Israel
had previously refused to release the more than six hundred
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Palestinian prisoners and deteenies last weekend because they accused Tamas
of breaching the ceasefire deal by those ridiculous public parading
of the hostages in Gaza before they would turn home
over to the Red Cross, and Egyptian officials who have
been working on this ceasefire have apparently gotten promises from
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Hamas that they won't be doing that again.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
In DC, it's time for swamp watching a politician, which
means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm still in that lollipops.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, we got. The real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I'm not going anywhere. So that is how you train the.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been guman act.
They're not stupid.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Have the people voted for you were not swap watch,
They're all countero.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
President Trump has previewed as plans for a new visa
gold card, describing it as somewhat like a Green card,
but at a higher level of sophistication.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He was signing his latest round of executive orders yesterday,
one of them related to terras on copper imports. Lutnick
Howard Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary, and explained that this
Trump gold Card, as he called it, would replace the
EB five visa, which would also or does also provide
a pathway to citizenship for a wealthy foreign investor, but
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has been an avenue for fraud a lot of places.
Lutnick implied that the administration would be more discerning as
to who would qualify for the gold card, and the
plan is not just we don't want to just get
a bunch of rich people in here.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Obviously their money would be.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great, but it's the idea that they would be smart
enough business owners that they would then turn around and
create jobs in the United States. Is it as simple
as saying it's a five hundred dollars price tag on this,
I don't know. I don't know if that passes legal
muster or if there would be rules against that sort
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of thing when it comes to immigration.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But did you say five hundred or did I have
an aneurysm. No.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I may have said five hundred, but five million is the.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Feeds a million dollars. It's for very high level people
for their route to citizenship. We're going to make sure
they're wonderful, world class global citizens what Nick said. Trump added,
it will be people with money and people that create jobs.
Asked whether a Russian oligarch might be eligible for a
(03:51):
gold card, Trump seemed amused, Yeah, he replied possibly. He said, hey,
I know some Russian oligarchs that are nice people, if possible,
and then he said they're not as wealthy as they
used to be, but I think they can afford five
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Secretary Lutnik did say that they would have to go
through a vetting, of course, to make sure that they
are wonderful, world class global citizens, and Lutnik is using
the exact same language that his boss is. It sounds
like more than twenty civil service employees resigned from the
Department of Government Efficiency, saying that they're refusing to use
their technical expertise to dismantle critical public services is what
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they see.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
These are the tech workers who are not the doze
rising young stars of Elon Musk's choosing. These are tech
workers that have already been in the federal government and
are raising their hands and saying, we are not using
our skills in the tech world to dismantle what this
country is built on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Essentially, Yeah, they resigned from the US Digital Service, which
is an that was established during Obama's administration after the
incredibly cocked up rollout of the healthcare dot gov web
portal that they completely blew. And again, that's proof that
the government is not good at some things, and this
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was one of those things that the government was not
good at. There's an interesting aspect This story specifically kind
of crystallizes something that I've been thinking about but couldn't
quite put into words.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Seth Moulten, Yes, that's Seth Moulton ran for president. Seth
Moulten talk.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
To everyone remembers that it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Talks about the importance of having an actual plea. You
can't just complain about Elon Musk and Doge. You got
to have a plan.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Actually, the last time there was a big push for
government efficiency, it was under Clinton and Gore, and it
was a widely praised effort. Saved hundreds of billions of dollars,
but didn't create the chaos that Musk is creating today.
My case is Democrats need another plan like that. Do
what Clinton and Gore did, show that we want to
reform government too. We're just going to be more responsible
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about going about it, and we can rather than just
complain about Musk.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now, there's a thing about that he's going that's going
on that I thought he brought to light. I couldn't
crystallize it until he said that. This is similar to
Republicans saying we've got to do away with Obamacare. It's
an absolute mess, it's not doing anybody any favors, but
then not having a plan to replace it with. And
Democrats right now are saying Elon Musk is tearing apart government.
(06:27):
He shouldn't be going after the waste, fraud, and abuse,
he shouldn't be cutting these programs or these workers, et cetera.
But then they don't have a program to do just
those things. They don't have it. That's set up.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, it's like most people, they don't like the way
things are, but then they don't want change, you know.
It's there was a memo that was distributed today by
Trump his administration that federal agencies must develop plans to
eliminate employee positions. So now they're putting the onus on
the federal agencies. Come up with your own hatchet plan.
(07:01):
They say, it's going to be a sweeping realignment of
American government. The memo expands Trump's effort to downsize the
federal workforce. He's described it as an impediment to his agenda.
Thousands of sorry probationary employees have already been fired, and
now they're looking at people who have civil service protection
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and get ready for the lawsuits. We're cutting down the
size of government, he says. We have to. We're bloated,
we're sloppy, we have people that are not doing their jobs.
So in this memo this morning, it says agencies are
directed to submit by March thirteenth their plans for what
is known as reduction in force, which would not only
lay off employees, but eliminate the positions all together, which
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would be extensive changes in how government functions. Going to
get rid of a lot of people, and then you're
going to have to come up with new protocols in
all those departments.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The White House says that that large bruise that is
on the back of President Trump's right hand is from
him shaking so many hands.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
He shakes a lot of hands. He shakes hands all day,
every day, is what they say.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
He has had visible bruising or redness on his right
hand on at least two other occasions, in August and
November of last year, which obviously would have been right
in this middle of campaigning stuff. Bruises on his hand
were also noted by various news outlets last year, and
Time magazine quoted Trump in twenty in December of twenty four,
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saying it's from shaking hands with thousands of people.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Daily mail, which is the bastion of journalism as we
know it, ran to a doctor named doctor Stuart Fisher.
Stuart Fisher says that while an aggressive handshake could be
partly to blame, that his age may also provide a clue.
We all know this. We've all had relatives that have
bruises or age spots that look like bruises on their hands.
(09:00):
I've got a couple of them, he says. The doctor
that old age naturally weakens blood vessels, makes them more brittle,
which makes bruising on any part of the body much
more likely and severe. That osteo arthritis of course breaks
down cartilage and bone and the joints. That could be
another possibility. It can cause easy bruising or discoloration that
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affects joints in the hand. The doctor says he thinks
it's probably all of those things together.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If you look on social media, which is also a
great idea, the suggestion is that this was an IV.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That bruise.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It put an IV on the top of the hand
there and that left a bruise when they removed it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But rich people get dehydration ivs like every day. It's
a thing. It keeps your energy up, you keep those
B twelve shots in. It's a thing. So that also
would not be out of the realm of possibility. And
it wouldn't be like he needed an IV because he's
near death or he's experiencing health problems. It's probably just
because you get a little you get a little boost,
(10:03):
you get a little hydration. Especially with all the diet
cokese he drinks, probably doesn't drink.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
A lot of water.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I won't be surprised if he got regular hydration ivs.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Are you worried about him?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No, Okay, I just said, I wouldn't be surprised if
he just gets regular hydration IVS.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I know, but that consistent dehydration could be an issue too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No, no, no, it's not like dehydration that can put you
in the hospital. It's just you know, you've seen those places.
They've popped up everywhere now, the hydration therapy. They're in
like strip malls and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The only time I think I've even recognized them was Vegas.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
They're all over the place.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Sure, yeah, there is a proposal, and I want to
throw this in there only because it's weird. State assembly
Member Rick Chavez Burr introduced a bill last week to
substantially narrow the legal justification for homicide in California. Homicide
is just person on person death. Basically, the term for
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murder actually is illegal homicide, which would mean that there
are legal homicides that are there. For example, if your
life is threatened, you can defend yourself. But they talk
about this bill. Homicide would no longer be justifiable when
it's committed in defensive property or habitation. So somebody could
break into your house, you can't shoot them unless they
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are killing you, or unless they're about to kill you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Kamala Harris said she was going to shoot you if
you broke into her home.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, this is one of those things that it doesn't
make sense to me because I don't know who the
victim is in this case or who assembly Member Rick
Chavez ber is trying to protect.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Are you trying to protect the people who just happen
to break into a house to steal stuff, that's who
you're trying to protect.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Or you're trying to protect.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The law abiding homeowner who wants to protect his fam
And how do I know when you break into my
house in the middle of the night what your intentions are?
And do I have to wait until you try to
kill me before I defend myself.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
That's why you need to get a burn a gun.
You can shoot them, name them and not kill them,
but they won't be breaking into your house again.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, Gun safety advocates said this bill is a way
to prevent armed extremism and vigilante violence. You're not walking
down the street and shooting people. This is if you
are threatened. If someone threatens to you, sorry, it is
a threat to you. It's criminalizing home defense. It's protecting
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the bad guys again. And uh, yeah, I don't know,
and I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
That's what you were going to say, Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I do like that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I wonder if if you named a kid a certain name,
if he or she would be more apt to to
shoot people.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What if you named your kids Spider something like that,
or Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Or something Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Just thinking of mafia hit.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think I'm gonna give my baby some time to
develop its nickname in the mafia world. You're gonna think, yeah, exactly.
Justin worship Is with us, host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
We like talking parenting things.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The idea of naming your kid is obviously probably step
two or three of being a parent, right in the responsibility.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I like that sequence. I'm afraid to ask what one
number one is?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You gotta make it?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There you go, thanks Gary, or buy it?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean, I don't know how people get their kids these. Yeah,
that's true, but step two or.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Three is gonna be okay, So what are we gonna
call this thing?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And there's a lot you're setting up your kid for
financial failure if if you don't pick these top five names.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yep, yeah, if you if you named your kid uh Anna, Maria, Laura, Helen.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Or Sarah, you did good for them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They're gonna do a good female.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah, they're gonna do. They're gonna be great financially. For
the guys, it's Andrew, Sam Alex, Christopher and Darren.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Good for you.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But my husband, I mean, I'm sorry, my brother. That's
a weird slip. My brother's name is Andrew, right at
the top of the list.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Zoom number one. Well, guess what, borrow some money from bro.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
He's loaded.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And then if you're doing poorly. Karen's taken a lot
of hits in these last few years.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
She topped the list of struggling financially, probably because she's
calling the cops on people that now deserve to be
She's getting a lot of lawsuits, so she's got she's
got a lot of retain.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh, Claire, Lisa, Jennifer and Rachel. And then for guys
Allie and Rob, Dan, Chris and Dominic. Which is interesting
because if you shorten it from Christopher, not so good financially,
but if you got the full toafer going on, you were,
you're thriving as a guy.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's just the most ridiculous circle. I've ever read that
in my life. It's insane and ps. Claire is a strong,
firm name. I don't think. I don't think of Claire
as a financial failure. I don't see Claire as somebody
who's in a gutter in financial ruin. But that's how
Claire doesn't live on skid row.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That's how strong Claire is.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
She can make you believe she's thriving when in actuality,
deep down, she's struggling.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
She needs a hug.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, she's not. Claire has a matching sweater set and
a string of pearls on.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, but she's financed. They're all on credit card debt. Shannon, Oh,
maybe that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you Claire is
not okay. If you have a friend named Claire, you
need to call her and make sure she's okay and
buy her lunch.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
She's not going to split yes about Claire.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
But they don't even there's no there's no connection, I
mean right, I mean they can't establish what the connection
would be between these names and films.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
They just basically went through and looked at social security
data and figured out who was thriving. Financially and what
the most common names were about for those people that
were thriving financially, and then technically you should all be fired.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Those people should be elon musk. If your job is
to go through Social Security data and find out what
the first name is successful.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
This is a This is a college funded study, So
I don't think this is actually from the federal government.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
What was it. I think it was Brigham Yell.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Go back to the Mormons.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
College closed, but they did.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's funny they did kind of what I The reason.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Why I brought this to you guys is for just
the funny of just laughing that your name has anything
to do with your financial success. But I also think
it's a reflection of what I feel that these anks
written parents go through. That we've now added icing onto
a cake, which is this is probably more of a
multiple flower icing flower that's being added on top of
the cake of like things you should worry about. You
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failed your kid because you didn't name them Anna, right,
You would have just named them Anna.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Listen, there's pressure in the process of naming the kid already.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I think that's your point.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And in terms of what we were saying, what my
wife and I were saying when we were doing this
exercise of what would you even begin? Would you want
a family name? Would you want to name it after
your grandfather? Like? What, how do you even begin? There's
plenty of pressure. You got it, and you should cut
down on the rules. The rules are basically for me,
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the rules were, I'm not going to name my son
anything close to one of your ex boyfriends.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That was really the only thing I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That is not ridiculous because she's had so many boyfriends
that the list was pretty small.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
See, this is why I brought this. I didn't know.
This was an undintended consequence. Look at how much fun
we're having.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's such an early twenties thing, like I'm not what
are your ex boyfriends name?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
The fun game I named with I played with my
wife is that my wife had been talking about like
all the girl names, Kiara, Noel, these were all names
that she was thrown around, and Kiara was my favorite.
And so when we bought our house, we adopted this
kind of feral kitten that had lived in the park
across the street and walk up to us, and so
she was.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Like, oh, let's keep the kitten. I was like, you
know what your neighbor is Kiara. That's one of the
names you like.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And my wife is so caught up in the emotional
She's like, that's a great idea, and I'm like, great.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
We never have a daughter named Kiara now.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And then an electric fence was built around the name Kiara.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It is so manipulative.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I know, I know, I'm very I'm very very rarely
am I good at it?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That like, especially my wife peace of who you are?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I know, but it felt so strong. Oh my god,
wait a minute, hold on. I have never felt more
alive than that day.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I don't think that's an immature thing to say, is
you can't name my son after ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm not saying it's immature. I'm saying that, like in
my early twenties, I was more obsessed with like like
my boyfriend or now husband or whatever it was with
their exes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I was more Yeah, she's saying it was a sign
of the time of your age. You're right, because because
if I look, yes, because right now, if I look
three years previous, I'm the only person that my wife
has had sex with.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'm not even.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Thinking about it in your forties or whatever, right, and
when I'm twenty one, yes, I may not be the
only person on that list three years. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm sorky, all right, good, like.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You know what's funny about me? As soon as you
said it, I agreed. I was just like I would
have never thought of that. I'm so glad my maaming
I dotched that bullet.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And the thing is her most I think the boyfriend
that she had before me was also named Andy, and
if that had happened, and like, we named our kid
and I know five million andies now and they all
haunt me because they.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Remind me of my my wife's sex boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I was afraid one of them was going to be
named Alvin, and so she found a loophole with Calvin.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Or Alan or something.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The best part of that is like, and I think
kind of we have a magnetic quality about us. Gary,
Like one of your best friend's name is Andy now, right,
And I think also there's this weird thing that that
just happens. I call you Andy sometimes. My brother's name
is Andy.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And it hurts every time.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And I do that sometimes. I haven't done it in
a long time, But there's something to be said. When
you really don't want something, sometimes the universe.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Does and it hurts because you're not as financially successful as.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The other thing is that my in laws for the
first year that my wife and I were dating, they
called me and no way, absolutely, no, yeah, and they
wouldn't even catch on. Like I remember distinctly, we were
sitting in the backseat of a car. We're going with
them to I had to be dinner somewhere, and we
were visiting them while they were in Seattle and we
(20:46):
were living in Sacramento, and her mom, my now mother
in law, kind of spun around and was like, so, Andy,
what was it like at work this week? And I
mean direct eye contact and everything, and no, I was like,
nobody was talking to me.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Nobody on this planet is better, by the way than
your Shannon. And like the comedic response take to that
of just like I just imagined going stiff and just
lowering her head at a.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Forty five and.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, my wife said, My wife corrected her right away,
She's like, his name is Gary, And to her credit,
my mother in law now mother in law, was mortified.
But and she said it like at dinner time, I'm
really sorry for calling you that I didn't. I didn't
and my wife then again, she pops up, she's like,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Do it all the time. No, we don't, and yes
you do.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
How long were they together?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Gosh, that's a great question. I don't know. Months.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It's it's so weird. And I said, how long were
Shannon and Andy together? Because my whole life it's been
Shannon and Andy, Shannon and Andy.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, we'll try living my life where I go
home and they're like, who who? When I went to
get notarized yesterday's signature and they're like, who's who's signing today?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And I said, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Don't forget to download the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
They together.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think it was a year plus. I don't know.
I honestly don't know. He just got a list. He
didn't get time, pranks.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
He just needed seems like it's enough time for the
mother or the father to continually call the new one
the old one.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And nice, and that's what.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Similar.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't think we have time to go into this
blonde hair. He's also addicted to porn. But that's sorry.
I couldn't just let that. Yeah, you had to take
a shot at him. You won, Garrett, It's okay. You wondorn.
The study that reveals that parents do have a favorite child,
and to break it down, by U and Western University
looked at all of these different things. Kids who are
(22:43):
favored tend to have better mental health, to do better
in school, to have better family relationships.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's the cause or the effect of being a favorite
or but they also said that the older child and
often girls, yes, tend to be the favorite child.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Daughters predominantly are favorite.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And this is what I love is bringing this in
is that both of you guys have siblings that, like,
you have a sister, Shannon has a brother.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Do you think that your sister got favorite of treatment.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think they at times did get the favorite treatment, Yeah,
but for different reasons. I mean, one of them was
very school minded and driven and was the first to
graduate college because she was older. But but and then
the other one was very sporty, like she was super.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Involved and.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, and then I was like, hey, there's there's that
guy keeps showing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Up at our house every day.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That was the opinion on you.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah, Shannon, do you think that you got I think,
like Gary, you're a rule follower, like before you got here.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Justin we were talking about it and Gary said that
his parents routinely told him that he was the favorite.
And and I think that you are really good with
following rules and not getting like you get into the
correct amount of trouble without being a like a problem
or a problem or a worry. Yeah, whereas your sisters
(24:09):
there was two of them. Girls are kind of tricky
boys a lot of the time. I think probably get
the bad rap because they're little boys, and they're all
over the place, and they're dirty, and they're not rule followers,
and they're you know, they're rambunctious, and that's just what
little boys are. And I think that that's probably it.
Girls are probably more self contained for the most part.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, because what I've heard is that like daughters feel
like they aren't that the brother always has more leeway,
particularly like going out to parties and dating, because for
whatever reason, parents worry less about their sons, but brothers
feel like the girls get away with more because they
get treated with a little bit more mittens and like
(24:48):
and tenderly than the boy would.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's like, and I think the other thing that this
article kind of talks about, which I kind of agree with,
is that this is really about a kid's perception. This
opened my eyes because I think if you were to
ask me until recently, I would probably if I had to,
like gun to my head, I had to pick a
favorite kid, it would be my older son until recently.
Now my younger son is probably more my favorite because
he's employed. I've decided that having a child.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
In two weeks.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, I've decided that having a child that has a
job is my new favorite thing about being a father.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's the thing we were talking about, too, is how
it changes, like your favorite kid changes.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
My dad said.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
The way he I asked him, and I know I've
said this multiple times here is that I said, do
you really have a favorite? And he was like, you
don't have a favorite, You just always have. It rotates
who you're worried about, Like there's always he said, there's
always one of you that your mom and I are
worried about. And then when that one starts to like rally,
he goes, you don't stop worrying because now you're like
looking at the other two of going Okay, which what's
(25:47):
going to happen to you two now because all three
of you are never thriving at the same time.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Like, it just doesn't work out that way. Yeah, and
we've used the quote before. I heard it said by
Heraldo Rivera, but I don't know if he was the
one who originated it, which is your never as you're
only as happy as your unhappiest child, and that, I
mean that kind of plays into it. There you go
back and forth, they go through different light and depending
on how old they are too, if there's a wide
(26:12):
age separation, they're going to go through different life stages
at very different times and give you sort of the
roller coaster effect of got to pay attention to this
one as she's a preteen, but that guy's going to
be an you know, late adolescent.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
What's happening with their and vice versa.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Because like like it says, the more agreeable child is
also usually the more favorite, which is I think what
Shannon's saying about you. I would also say that about
my older son. It's just always been easier for me
to talk to my older son. He's like me, he
likes to talk things out. My younger son is like
my wife. He holds it in if he's upset and
you have to pull it out of him. But I
would also argue that if you're talking about favoritism my
(26:48):
older son, I think thinks that we favor the younger
one because I have to try, I have to put
in an effort to get things out of my younger son,
whereas I don't have to do anything with my older
son to feel like I have, like that he knows
that there's a connection there. I guess I don't know,
but it's all perception. Nothing is real, because how do
you sit down and have a sincere conversation about who
do you think mom and dad love more?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right? And when I talked about it last week, there
were people who were upset that I would even entertain
the thought of telling one of my children that they
were my favorite, Like, what good is that? You're just
going to sew division between the two of them, which
I've never I want to tell these people shut up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, I would never.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Also, I don't think I would ever seriously say to them, Hey,
it's like, sit them both down and go. You know
it's been bugging me for a long time. You I
hate you, But she I like her? She for you're
a moron, but he's really got his stuff together right now, and.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Listen, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not
perfect or do we all this great? But I'll tell
you like, we have videos of my wife telling me
she was pregnant with each of our sons, and with
the second one, it was not a happy moment. It
was definitely like we were struggling financially. And after the video,
she goes, should I delete this, like basically erasing the evidence?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And I said no, I said, because yes, this is.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Kind of like a oh crap moment, But in reality,
I go, if this kid looks at this video at
twenty two years of age and doesn't laugh at it
because he has spent the last twenty two years of
his life being loved and growing in this family and
being supported, then yeah, we were hosted to begin with.
And that video didn't change any of it. Like that
doesn't make any difference, I said, so I think it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Is what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
And both of my sons have listened to both all
of my comedy albums, which is just me jokingly like
making fun of being them and talking about how bad
being a dad is, and they laugh like, I don't
think it really matters. It matters when it's like when
I guess it's real, Like I think if you genuinely
told your kids, like.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Oh, you're my favorite, I don't think it's really that sincere.
You know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's really sweet that your kids have listened to your albums.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Oh it scared me. My dad played them when he
brought him home.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
He played all three of them when they were like
four and seven, and I'm like, Dad, did you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Give any context?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
He's like, no, I just thought theyd get a kick
out of hearing their dad do what he does, and
they still to this day.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, they like it.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
They think it's funny, like which I agree, Shannon, it does.
It warms my heart.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But your point also is they probably don't take it seriously.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
They don't. They know much. I love them.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I cry at everything they do, and I hug them
all the time. Again, like this idea that we worry
that the kids don't feel like you love them, I
start crying right now.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I already am.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
As the greatest affter half an hour. Thank you, justin.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
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