March 4, 2025 • 46 mins
Shannon starts the third hour of the show with the latest news out of D.C. including what goods might be affected by Trump’s tariffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Embracing Boredom. There was an article
in Vox all about embracing boredom, something we don't do anymore, and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's pretty good for us.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It turns out we can use boredom to our advantage,
and so we'll talk about that because sometimes you're on
your phone and you're scrolling and you know you're wasting time,
and it's so easy, and you realize that there is
a little benefit or a lot of a benefit to
just sitting in stillness, right. I mean, you don't have
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to be a Buddhist monk and wear the robes and
shave your head and live in silence, but it is
nice not to be inundated with stimulation all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's good for you.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've talked about it before, So a trick on how
to embrace boredom, whether you're standing in the checkout line
or getting the car washed or what have you. Coming
up later in the show, we're going to be talking
about compatibility. There are questions that therapists would ask, and
the love is blind pods to assess compatibility.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
If you haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Love is Blind, good for you. I, on the other hand,
I'm fully entrenched in Love is Blind.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I've watched all of the seasons.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's awful television, highly addictive, garbage television. It does nothing
for your intellectual health.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Love is Blind is a show based on a group
of men and a group of women, usually late twenties,
early thirties, and they meet each other in these pods.
They don't see each other. They have these long conversations.
They are armed with questions for each other to get
to know each other, and at the end they settle
on one person. Usually they they're into two or three people,
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and then they whittle it down to one person, and
then they propose to them at the end, And the
first time that they see each other is after proposal
has already been done, or it's at the time when
they first see each other, as when they propose, and
nobody pulls out of it, because then you look like
an a hole, because then it's just that you don't
like the way he looks or she looks, or what
have you. But anyway, then they follow them to a
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resort where they live together for the first time, and
then they follow them home where they live together the
first time in real life. But there are questions that
arise in the pods of is this somebody who I
could live with forever? And what kind of questions would
you think to ask if your son or daughter brought
home someone and they were serious, what question would you
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say that they would have to get asked before they
took the next step. Let us know using the talkback
feature on the iHeartRadio app, because we will get to
that coming up later this hour. Well, Trump's speech to
Congress has all of the ingredients for a show. In fact,
that is what he is telling us. That is going
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to be must see TV. The Trump says on the
social the night will be big. He will tell it
like it is. And like I said earlier, I mean,
this isn't emboldened Trump. You're coming off the news that
President Zelenski and Ukraine now regrets that Oval Office meeting
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with Trump. That's what he said, It did not go
the way it was supposed to be. That he is ready,
that Ukraine is ready to work fast end the war.
Trump's going to see this as a major win and
tonight will be his victory.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Lap, Make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He is going to be emboldened and it's going to
be interesting to what he says when it comes to
the tariffs. Right when you look at China and Mexico
and Canada and what we bring in.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The Target CEO already.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Saying that you're going to see fruits and vegetable prices
go up because Target relies heavily on Mexico during the winter.
So what kinds of things will we see and how quickly?
And just don't put any credence into those things. When
it comes to what a trade war would do to inflation?
What's the endgame here? Is it just about the fentanyl?
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Will he address that? Those are all things that I'm
interested to hear, and he will be speaking at six
pm our time. You would call it a state of
the Union. I mean, it's got all of the bells
and the whistles. It's got the Chambers of Congress, it's
got the Supreme Court Justices, you've got the secret person
in the secret room. If the whole place is blown up,
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all of that, it's just not called state of the
Union because of where it lands. But this is the
first time that he's going to be addressing Congress since
he took office, So it may be it may be
at the least contentious. There is going to be some protesting.
When it comes to Democrats, there is going to be
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some talking back. It is going to be a show,
make no mistake about it. When it comes to what's
going on locally at LA City Hall. Right now, I
am watching people from the LA Fire Department, whether it's
fire department union members or what have you, kind of
make their way into city Hall chambers. This is the
first time Kristin Crowley has appeared in public since she
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was fired two weeks ago by Karen Bass, the mayor.
This is the fight over who did what or who
didn't do what when it came to the fires. Michael
Monks from KFI News is in the chambers right now.
She's expected Kristin Crowley to make an appeal to the
council to save her job or to get her job
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back as fire chief. And like I said, you could
see the slew of people in LA Fire Department T
shirts make their way inside. Michael Monks from KFI News
is inside. He has been texting me. He says it
is capacity crowd, hot is ticket in town, all the
media is there, a lot of Union supporters there as well,
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but bass Is support are there as well. Public comment
until eleven forty five, he says, and then maybe showtime.
So right now, probably you're going to get a lot
of comments on both sides from people with the fire
department and people with the Bass camp, and then the
council will ask questions or you'll hear from Kristin Crowley
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at eleven forty five, possibly both. Again, I'm not sure
what the council can do in terms of giving her
her job back. Karen Bass is not there, as Michael
Monks reported to us early, She's been going about her
day tweeting about the oscars and things like that kind
of treating this is rather insignificant.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
As she moves forward, We're past that, We're.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Moving on the way that she explained it was that
Kristin Crowley was shown the door at the fire department
because it was under Kristin Crowley's watch that a thousand
firefighters were not at their post when the fire broke out,
that they were in fact sent home. The fact that
Kristin Crowley did not fill out the after action.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Report post fires. This is all clerical and silly.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The reason behind this is that Kristin Crowley came out
and laid Karen Bass squarely under the bus, saying that
City Hall and Karen Bass cut the fire department and
that it showed when those fires made their ways through
the Palisades and Alta Dina. All right, Coming up next,
we will go live to get a reaction on Capitol
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Hill about the address, what lawmakers are expecting, and what
those fireworks will be when we hear from the President
tonight at six. Do you know the story about Ruby Frankie.
This was the mom of six kids who pretty much
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filmed her kids growing up and put it on YouTube.
There's this whole world that I was ignorant to families
that document their kids' lives and they share it and
just some of the intimate stuff as well about their
kids' lives, things that you would never think to share
maybe with your best friend or family or something like
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that about your kids, but putting it out there on
YouTube for everyone to see. It is a whole industry,
and these people are making thousands of dollars, tens of
thousands of dollars a month by seemingly exploiting their kids
for hits and likes and comments and fame, and she
is kind of the poster child for how it can
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all go wrong. There is a new documentary it's called
The Devil in the Family. I fell into it yesterday
on Hulu, and I think my jaw was open for
about eighty percent of the time I was watching this.
It's just three parts, and the husband features prominently in
the documentary, and the whole time, I'm just wondering, what's wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
With this guy?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He seems like such a good guy, normal smart. How
would you just go along for this crazy train ride
for as long as that he did. Anyway, we'll get
into it in the whole industry coming up in true
Crime Tuesday Crime, because yeah, this is a mom that
is serving time because of what she did to her
kids towards the end of seeking fame with her YouTube channel.
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America's two biggest lottery games are on the up and up.
There was no grand prize winner in the Powerball drawing yesterday.
That jackpot has been pushed up to two hundred and
ninety five million dollars ahead of the next drawing on tomorrow.
I believe ahead of that, there's another chance to get
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rich with mega millions. Tonight's drawing stands at two hundred
and fifteen million dollars with a cash option just shy
of one hundred and one million bucks.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Here's something fun to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Possibly, John Stewart is inviting Elon Muks to be a
guest on The Daily Show. Stuart criticized Musk's doze last week,
and Elon posted on X he'd go on the show
if the interview aired unedited, and then on the show yesterday,
John and Stuart says that they would be delighted to
have him. It can be fifteen minutes, an hour, two hours, whatever,
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so that would be fun to watch that conversation between
the two. We are in the midst of swamp watch
and a lot to do. We knew that when Trump
swept back into office there would be no boring swamp watch,
and there hasn't been, and my goodness. Usually a joint
addressed to Congress by a president is a snooze event.
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It is something that we often think, oh, we should
probably listen to this, we should probably hear it, but
you don't really want to. It's not going to be
entertaining with President Biden. It got uncomfortable, didn't it. It
gets boring, It can get preachy at times, depending who
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the president is. It's the same kind of verbiage about
moving America forward, and it's a pat on the back,
and it's here's what I want to do. All these
untenable goals. It's just the same, of the same and
more of the same. But tonight, tonight may be some fireworks.
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President Trump calling it must see TV, saying it's going
to be a big night. We've got the backdrop, a
backdrop of a trade war. We've got Ukrainian President Zelenski
coming out and saying he regrets what happened in the
Oval Office, which is sure to be a win in
Trump's mind. Kelly Meyer joins US Now Washington correspondent in
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DC for our News Nation. Kelly is the one who
asks all the tough questions running around Capitol Hill all
day long. And Kelly, what is the vibe today on
Capitol Hill? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And right now we're actually over at the White House
right now as President Trump is getting ready for his
speech tonight, and this will be his big address to Congress,
of his first address to Congress, of his second term.
A White House special to tell us that it's expected
to go about an hour, but they do tell us
as well that he's going to address some of the accomplishments,
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they say, of his first month in office, talking Bucky economy,
the border, and also foreign policy. So we can expect
to hear more on the plan for peace as he's
called it in Ukraine, as has been back and forth
between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zlinsky, to say the
least after that Oval Office blow up last Friday. We'll
also be watching for this trade war that's kind of
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really been kicking off just in the last few hours here,
as President Trump put those twenty five percent tariffs on
Canada and Mexico. Then now we're seeing and as well
as China, and then now we're seeing those countries firing
back against Trump. So now this is kind of going
back and forth, so we can't expect maybe more talk
of that tonight too, but as always, we're kind of
expecting the unexpected as well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About the trade wars.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
This is something that the President has not wavered on
because he has said it has to do with fentanyl
crossing the borders, at least when it comes to Mexico
and Canada. Taken to the numbers, Mexico's much more the culprit.
I believe there were maybe nineteen interactions involving fentanyl at
the US Canadian border just last year, as opposed to
something like ninety six hundred with Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Is it just about the fentanyl?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Will he lay out his end game for these tariffs
now that we've been hit with retaliatory tariffs?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, even he is threatening, just not too long
ago on truth Social about putting more tariffs back on Canada.
If they're hitting back with retaliatory tariffs, he's talking about
the reciprocal tariffs that will go back on in the
same amount. So he's still playing hardball with this. He's
still threatening to come back with even more tariffs on
these countries. We don't know exactly what kind of impact
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we're going to see here. I've talked to advisors here
at the White House. They said that this is going
to not hurt American pocketbooks. But there are Democrats on
Capitol Hill kind of rallying ahead of this address tonight,
saying it is going to be consumers that are going
to be hit hard from these tariffs, so a lot
up in the air, but a lot happening in the
last few hours.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So Elon Musk will be there tonight. We saw him
at the Cabinet meeting last week. He seems to be
a common fixture there. What administration officials saying this afternoon
there will be a lot of surprises and a lot
of made for TV moments. Any idea what those would entail,
We don't know just yet.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We are at the White House that we might check
back and see if there's anything else they could share.
A lot they're keeping under wraps. We know the theme,
we know what they're going to hit on, we know
some of the guests they're going to have there with
the First Lady, about fifteen guests total, and traditionally presidents
use that as a way to highlight parts of their agenda.
But we don't know exactly what the surprises might be.
But we do know if they've been pointing to this
as more of a you know, made for TV production type.
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He has done reality TV. It is somewhat of the
Trump Show. So they did say to Toomid and that
they called it must see TV. At least Caroline Levett
herself called it that to us.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Have you heard anything in in terms of protests.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I read that there are some Democrats that will have
some sort of showing of resistance, I guess for lack
of a better word.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, And I think we can't expect that there's going
to be some members that are just not going at all.
We've heard more and more throughout the day that there's
some members announcing that they're just not going to go.
There's something, you know, they'll wear something specific or color
and as a way of kind of protesting. We don't
know if we'll see any actions you know, we've seen
in the past, you know, Pelosi rip up the speech
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or do the kind of side alligator clap back. So
there may be some moments, but it's definitely going to
be something to watch to see exactly how they kind
of push back against this. But we also know there's
been things happening throughout the day outside the capital with
Democrats speaking out with protests, so we can't expect it
to be very lively for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
All Right, Kelly Meyer, White House correspondent there with News Nation,
Thanks so much. A lot going on there today and
you will stay on top of it. Just like News
Nation always so appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
All right, coming up, Well, we will stand top of
what's going on there and KFI will take the address
live tonight at six o'clock. And if they're advertising made
for TV moments, I think that's what we're going to get.
This is not a Pambondi special. I think there is
something in these binders, but we will find out. Remember
to let us know what is your compatibility question? There
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are therapists that work for the Love Is Blind franchise
and say they've got a series of questions that they
use for the kids and the pods to figure out
if they're compatible with whoever's on the opposite side of
the pod. What's your compatibility question? What do you think
a couple should agree upon to go the distance? Let
us know using that talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app
and we will tackle that later this hour. Big day
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locally and nationally when it comes to politics. Right now,
all the doings going on are at La City Hall,
where ousted fire chief Kristin Crowley is expected to plead
for her job back to the city council. KFI news
as Michael Monks is in the chambers and says the
action's about to start within about ten minutes in terms
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of that agenda item coming.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Up, so we will take you there.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Lives should s go down, for lack of a better term,
We've got President Trump addressing a joint session of Congress
tonight at six pm, where.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He says it will be must see TV.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of course, the backdrop of a trade war, all this
mess with Ukraine. The Ukrainian President coming out today and
basically giving President Trump a win, saying he regrets what
happened in the Oval Office and that he's willing to
work with the United States for peace.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Big news coming.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Out of the NFL Eagles rewarding Saquon Barkley with a
two year, forty one point two million dollar contract extension
makes him the highest paid running back in NFL history.
Running Backs have had a tough road d hoe in
recent years in terms of getting paid of viewed as expungible.
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This makes Saquon the NFL's first twenty million plus per
year running back. Huge deal, not just for Saquon Barkley,
but what it means for other running backs. Not that
he is not different, he is almost breaking Eric Dickerson's
record for single season rushing yards this season alone, and
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just a great guy. I don't know him, but seemingly
not a better guy. That could happen too. Dolly Parton's son,
excuse me, she never had kids. Dolly Parton and her husband,
they were together for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Carl Dean, eighty two years.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Old, has died, and there are so many fun little
things about their life together. That odd thing, I mean,
I guess it's not odd, but they didn't have kids.
In fact, that he kind of stayed out of the limelight.
He went to one award show with her in sixty
six and then said, you know what, I'm done with those.
I love you, I'll support you, but I'm not dealing
with that anymore. She was talking in recent interviews about
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how the two would always have pancakes or waffles on
the weekend, that it was their breakfast ritual, that those
were comfort foods, and that they would share Sunday brunch together,
and she said that that he was always her safety,
her security, her strength. He's been a good husband, We've
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had a good life, and that she would have all
she was She always said she'd put it all aside
if he needed her. She said, I would only retire
if I was ill or if my husband was ill
and he needed me. So together sixty years met at
the Wishy Washy laundromat. I love that, and he said,
upon meeting her, that's the one I'm going to marry.
I love those stories boredom. There was an article in
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Vox about boredom because there was a guy who wrote
a book about it. James Dackert is him Professor of
Cognitive Neuroscience at the University of Waterloo, and his book
is called Out of My Skull, The Psychology of Boredom,
and it was interesting to me because we are not
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bored anymore. You probably remember life before cell phones. Maybe
it was a long summer day, you didn't have anything
going on, you didn't have to go to school, and
the boredom sets in.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm bored.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
If you had parents that said i'll give you something
to be bored about, good for you. But it's not
a thing that we engage in anymore. We don't have to.
We're constantly stimulated by our phones, and you can argue
whether that's good or that's bad, but there's no shortage
of things to fill our time, if we're standing in
line at the check stand or waiting for the car
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to get washed or what have you. But James Dankert
has written a book all about it and making the
most out of boredom if it does strike you, and
he's got these these ways of coping that I think
could be helpful, probably for children, but now we're all
children because we are so we have the ten and
span of a gnat now because of the phones.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not just the kids that are addicted.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If we're being honest with ourselves, we're all addicted to
being stimulated all the time. And so he says that
when the feeling does arise is boredom, to use it
as a reminder that what you're doing is not meaningful
and seek out something that is. For instance, pop in
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a podcast while you're folding laundry. If you're dreading folding
laundry because it's so bored, throw on a podcast. It
makes it feel less like drudgery. Perhaps you go to
YouTube you find a tutorial on making bread or something
like that. On an afternoon where the sky is gray
and you've got nothing planned, Hey look at making bread
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and maybe get into that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But I will caution you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Once you get into bread making, or in my situation,
my husband got into bread making, it is a dangerous road.
Dangerous road when you come home and you smell that
fresh loaf of sourdough on the counter, something that you
don't ever want to give up, and nor do your thighs.
For circumstances, he writes, where you're unable to up and leave,
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like school or work, he says, try to make the
experience more profound. Focus on why I am here and
what's the deeper purpose so that the experience feels more meaningful.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh yeah, that's great advice.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're sitting there bored at work or school, and you're
supposed to think about why am I here? What gives
this meaning? That's awful advice. I mean, come on, start
making up false narratives about people you work with in
their lives. That's a fun time. You're sitting in a
boring meeting to be like, I wonder what he's into
at home? You know, is this a guy who walks
around in his underwear? Is his wife tired of that?
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That gives you more entertainment than thinking about your meaning
and your workplace. I say, if you're growing impatient on
a long road trip, find challenges or ways to make
the situation more stimulating, that car games exists for a reason,
or make your own up. The author says, my brother
and I growing up used to play this game called
who would You ask for Help? In this room right now?
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If you had to pick one person to ask for help,
who would it be? And why that's stupid? As well?
Whether there's the fun in that find the most reliable
person and identify them. Now you want to play the
game called who would you not ask for help? And
then talk about why they're awful and why they would
not be the person that you that you look to.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know what, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
An awful book. I mean, I'm sure there's some I'm
sure there's some good things in here. They say that
the solution to a soul crushingly boring job might be
to find another one. Well, no, s but it's not
always easy or realistic for many people. So he suggests
reframing your current employment situation. You're not living to work,
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you're working to live. Now that I can get on
board with. I think too infrequently you're thinking that your
job should be everything and it should be perfect for you.
And that's not what it's there for. It's just there
for the money. You're just going there for the paycheck.
If you're looking for fulfillment, look elsewhere. It's not at work.
Probably except for my job. I feel totally fulfilled. I
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love it here. Coming up after Deborah's news at the
top of the hour, Well, of course, Deborah will have
all the news, and we will try to even give
you more news when we talk about what's happening and
everything everyone's talking about everywhere. We tackle it all every
day here at twelve o'clock on the Gary and Shannon Show.
If you missed any of the show, make sure you
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Gary and Shannon, we are awaiting two things. One of
the things is happening right now at La City Hall,
as ousted fire Chief Kristin Crowley is there inside the
chambers expected to ask the city council for her job.
This is, I want to say, unprecedented, at least in
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the twenty years that I've been reporting in La. This
doesn't happen the mayor there.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh, and this is now do we have this anywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
She has just taken a seat behind the podium there
inside the council chambers. Kristin Crawley has to appeal to
the City Council to be reinstated with her job.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We should have it up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Channel four has it if we can pull that up,
guys getting around to the plaza there, Kristin Crowley is
it's filled, by the way. The chambers is with LA
Fire Department officials, union members. They put out the call
this morning and people answered. It is standing room only
inside the LA City Hall chambers right now as she
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appeals for her job back.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We extended an invitation to Chief Crowley to speak to
this hearing this morning to make the case, and so
she has contented to join us this morning, and so
we will hear from her first.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, Council President. Are honored and
very very honored City Council members, our community members that
have taken the time to be here and to listen
in and two are amazing and incredible LAFD firefighters who
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do the work every single day. Thank you so much
for being here. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I stand.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Or sit.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Before you today not only as the former fire chief
appealing to be reinstated, but as a leader who has
always placed the safety, health and well being of our
incredible and heroic firefighters first, while always balancing and prioritizing
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the needs of the community that we love to serve. Now,
our firefighters, as you all know, are the absolute heart
and soul of the LAFD. As public servants, we took
an oath to place the needs of others before our
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own at great personal risk. We will do anything and
everything that we can do to save lives and to
protect property. It is our calling and it is our duty.
Now adds the fire Chief, it was my duty and
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responsibility to ensure that our firefighters have everything they need
to do their jobs and to make sure that they
go home to their families the next day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Standing up.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Doing the right thing, and advocating for our firefighters, their families,
and for the communities that we serve are the reasons
that I am here today. Over my twenty five year career,
in all of the ranks that I have held, I
have seen our fire department struggle from year to year
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with limited funding, staffing, and resources. We are past the
point of sustaining our services without compromising public safety and
the safety of our firefighters. For nearly three years as
the fire chief, I have submitted realistic budget requests that
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were carefully crafted based on data, reports, analysis, and recommendations
from outside independent agencies that show just how understaffed and
under resource the LAFD is. Since twenty ten, there's been
a fifty five percent increase in overall calls for fire
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and emergency services with fewer firefighters providing those life saving services.
And yes, the LAFD is half the size we should
be regarding the firefighter or paramedic positions. Lack of long
term investments in the LAFD. Budget cuts have led to
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increased response times, lack of available fire engines, trucks and ambulances,
deleted civilians, support staff and mechanics, identified gaps in fire
and emergency services, infrastructure challenges, firefighter fatigue, firefighter mental health concerns,
and injuries to our firefighters. We know that our firefighters
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are asked to do more with less every single day.
When we fail to take care of our firefighters, we
fail to take care of our communities. I do believe
that there is a path forward, one that finds a
way to keep our communities safe by investing in long
term strategies to build out the LAFD the right way,
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through your leadership, every single person around this horseshoe, through
your leadership, the support of our amazing communities that we
love to serve, and the continued dedication and commitment sacrifice
of our firefighters. I am certain, deep down in my
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heart that we can find a way to fund and
support the LAFD now and into the future. Next, in
regard to my appeal, now, I will set the record
straight about the multiple false accusations that were made against me. First,
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I did not refuse to conduct an after action report,
and let me be clear, this is a false accusation.
During our discussions after an action after report, I should say,
during our discussions about and after action report, I advised
the fire commissioners about my opinion that was best in
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regard to how to use LAFD resources, I said that
the LFD is not capable nor do we have the
proper resources to adequately conduct an after action report for
the Palisades fire. Due to the sheer, magnitude, scope and
complexity of the incident, we are already understaffed, under resourced, underfunded,
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and based on my knowledge of the lafd's resources and capabilities,
I recommended simply to collaborate with Governor Newsom's already selected
and funded Agency Fire Safety Research Institute or FSRI, because
they are already conducting in independent analysis of the windstorm
and fire events in the Los Angeles and Ventura Counties.
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In contrast to the LAFD, FSRI has a capability to
conduct a proper, thoroughly researched and analyzed after action report
and wildfire analysis.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And listening to Kristin Crowley, ousted fired chief here in
La pleading for her job back at city Hall, you're
listening to KFI kosd HD two Los Angeles or Inn County.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
This is what they are already being paid to do.
Prior to me leaving the meeting, the fire commissioners agreed
with my recommendation that FSRI is the best equipped to
conduct the after action report. FSRI will also be publishing
its findings and recommendations, like it did for the line
of fire that occurred in early August twenty twenty three
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on the island of Maui. Now, my position has not changed,
and I wholeheartedly support the need for a professional organization
to conduct a full analysis of the Palisades fire. We
owe that to the community. We owe that to the
Fire Service, and that is the path forward. These steps
are essential to improving response efforts, guiding recovery, and building
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a better and safer disaster resilience community for our future. Second,
on the morning of the fire, I did not send
home one thousand firefighters who could have hopped on fire
engine and fought the Palisades fired, Nor did I leave
forty available fire engines unstaffed. These are all false accusations.
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As well, the forty fire engines in question were already
staffed and running nine one one calls with on duty
personnel in their normal configuration when the Palisades fire broke out.
Those fire engines were appropriately staffed and were used where
they were needed. Additionally, at eight hundred hours on January seventh,
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twenty twenty five, the LAFD pre deployed twenty four engines,
three battalion command teams, five brush patrols, two water tenders,
additional air operations personnel, and additional dispatchers. These one hundred
and twenty eight pre deployed and augmented personnel were strategically
placed in wildfire prone areas across the entire city, near
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multiple freeways to ensure a rapid response. Our action were
based on the recommendations of our subject matter experts, the
lafd's emergency operations staff. As for the thousand firefighters who
allegedly were sent home prior to the fires, we did
not have enough apparatus to put them on because of
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the budget cuts and lack of investments in our fleet maintenance.
Over one hundred of our fire engines, fire trucks and
ambulances sat broken down in our maintenance yards, unable to
be used to help during one of the worst wildfire
events in our history. And third, it is also a
false allegation that we failed to notify the Mayor's office
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about the upcoming weather event. I stand by our previous
statements about this. The LAFD engaged in all of its
standard communications, including emailing two separate media advisories, conducting multiple
live and recorded media interviews about the predicted extreme weather
and fire danger, and also notify in city officials about
the upcoming war other events. The Emergency Management Department also
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plays a key role in notifying the Mayor's Office. In
City officials and the Mayor's office itself also set out
multiple media messages prior to the fire's warnings about the
expected destructive and potential life threatening windstorm. It is never
the wrong time to do the right thing and to
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speak the truth. And the truth is that the fire
chief should not be prevented from or punished for speaking
openly and honestly about the needs and capabilities of the LFD,
or for doing their best to protect our firefighters and
our communities. In closing, it has been an absolute honor
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of my life to serve and represent the incredible men
and women of the LAFD as their fire chief. Our
people do amazing things every single day and I am
so grateful beyond words to have been in this position
for nearly three years. We have much to be proud of,
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and we stand with and always will stand with the
communities that we serve with integrity, compassion and courage. I
urge you to vote to reinstate me as a fire chief.
But no matter how the vote goes, the LAFD, your
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LAFD deserves to be properly funded, staffed, and resourced so
that we can meet the ever growing needs of the community.
We owe that to the LAFD, and we owe that
to those we serve. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's Kristin Crowley, ousted fire chief there making her case
to the city council to reinstate her as chief. We'll
see if any of the council members ask questions of
her or speak up here a couple of rows of
firefighters applauding her comments there, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Mister city attorney.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
So to the extent and thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
The extent that.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
There is any additional discussion, I would just like to
remind people in detail, because I know you were at
the table at the time, that to please be cognizant
of the attorney client privilege when it comes to answers
or questions. That includes discussions that were held in closed session.
That includes individual communications via email, text, or during conversations
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with the attorneys.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
So thank you, all right, Council Member Rodriguez, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
You Chief Crowley for being here. So, mister Harris Dawson,
I have a question because there's also some additional information
that I believe can corroborate some of what Chief Crowley
has asserted in terms of her cooperation that could be
validated by the CEO's office. Is it an opportunity for
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if Matt Zabo or Ben Seharer here to answer any questions,
because what we're.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Discussing is Monica Rodriguez, council member from the seventh District.
Speaker 8 (39:38):
Afford and honor the chief's appeal based on the cited
reasons that we're disclosed by the mayor for her dismissal,
and if we have facts to corroborate her position, I
think that's that's warranted to be heard. And so my
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question is, would I be afforded the opportunity to ask
mister Zabel to come forward on some of the assertions
that were made that led to her dismissal so that
we could correct the record.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I will defer to the city attorney on that question,
but I will point out I will disagree with councilor.
Remember Rodriguez, the city attorney was very clear that the
mayor can fire the chief for any reason or for
no reason at all. So whether or not we establish
that we agree with the assessment that the mayor made
or we don't agree with the assessment, it doesn't call
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into question the mayor's authority to make the decision that
she did.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
It's not questioning the mayor's authority. I'm not questioning the
mayor's authority. I'm questioning what was cited as the reason.
And if we're going to consider Chief Crowley's appeal, why
wouldn't we consider the facts as we know them that
could be corroborated by the CEO's office. And that's what
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So they're asking this one who can show the math
of why Kristin Crowley was showing the.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
So again, it's fine to do that. I just want
to be clear that even if you were to discredit
every one of the reasons, it does not it does
not in any way shade the mayor's authority in this regard.
But we'll call the city administrative officer up to take
the questions that you have, and we'll excuse Miss Crowley
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from the table at this time.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Matt Zabo, by the way, used to be Viara Gosa's
a DRED years ago.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
During our budget deliberations, your office recommended when we had
requested investigating the fire department's request for the additional mechanics
to repair the apparatus, when your office recommended against funding
those positions. Was there anybody on your staff that went
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out to verify the number of apparatus that were out
of commission at the time. I'm looking at a memo
dated May eighth, twenty twenty four, that your office does
not recommend the department's requests for the additional positions.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I don't believe so, Matzebo, City Administrative Officer. The recommendation
in the budget memo would have been related to the
fact that the positions that were eliminated were vacant positions,
and many of them had been vacant for some time.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
All Right, So we'll pull away from this because they're
going to get into the weeds of line by line
of why the city Council made the decisions that it
made with the help of the mayor to go ahead
with these cuts that Christen Crowley just testified before the
City Council, if that's the right word, that really led
to the department being understaffed and underfunded to take on
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fires of this size are really just everyday business for
the fire department. Michael Monks from KFI News has been
covering this story, joins us now and it seems like now, Michael,
the city council members are asking the Controller's office for
the city to kind of show the math behind the
decision to get rid of Kristin Crowley, and because she's
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pushing back saying that she didn't make the decisions to
keep those one thousand firefighters home, and that she gave
the right reasons for more money to be sent to
the fire department before the council.
Speaker 9 (43:34):
Absolutely, I mean, this is going to be an argument
today about math in a lot of ways. The main
math equation we've been talking about is she needs ten
on a of fifteen council members. But there's also budget
math to look at, because in the aftermath of these fires,
we heard Chief Crowley say, we didn't get the funding
that we need to be as prepared as we should
be for a massive wildfire like the one that devastated
the Palisades. We don't have the manpower, and when we
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do have manpower, we don't have the equipment. And so
that's what they're going to be digging into. That's been
her defense in many ways all along. Was the disaster
unfolded the way it did not because I didn't send
a text message to Mayor Bass about the forecast, but
because we are not physically prepared to attack a fire
of this nature in those conditions, because of decisions made
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outside of this department by city Hall.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Now she's making it less about her and her performance
and more about the fact that she came before these
same people and to her point, laid out why they
are basically compromising the safety of all of us in
Los Angeles and themselves with being so underfunded that there
was outside resources, outside agencies that came in even and
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made the case that the LA Fire Department is vastly underfunded.
So I guess we're going to hear a lot more
of what was already litigated before these same people.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Certainly, you've got Matt Sabo, the city administrator there, who
crafts the budget and presents it to council each year.
I sat through a lot of budget meetings fast fiscal
year leading up to this very budget that was approved,
and there were certainly declarations of upset about the fire
Department's budget, but every department was cut except for the
Police department, Street Services, animal Services, public works. All of
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the departments took hits except for the police department. But
the Fire department was very vocal and even then that
they were not getting their fair share of what they need.
So that is documented. This city is in a financial crisis.
Just about as it is anyway. Their financial condition has
only gotten worse this year. That guy that you just
heard speaking, Matt Zabo, has his hands full with getting
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ready to enter another budget season in a year that's
going to be far worse than it was last year,
which was already bad.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
All right, Michael Monks. Michael, by the way, came to
LA and said, I want to live at City Hall.
I want to be the reporter that pays attention to
everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
And he did. He basically lived at City.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Hall for a very long time and is entrenched for
days like today when we need to know what the
hell is going on. Everybody has their own story and
he's been able to dig through the details and tell
us what's what. Appreciate your time Michael today and he
will be monitoring things as they continue there in the
chambers and City Hall. We'll bring you all the pertinent
information that comes out of that. Again, it's going to
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get very granular when it comes to line by line
budget items of who's telling the right story. We're probably
going to find out in the end that yes, the
LA Fire Department is underfunded, where's up money going and
where did it go? Instead of the Fire Department. We
don't have those answers at this point, but this may
go the distance through the afternoon. Again, We'll stay on
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top of it, as will Michael Monks there from KFI
News at La City Hall.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
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Speaker 9 (46:44):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Embracing Boredom. There was an article
in Vox all about embracing boredom, something we don't do anymore, and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's pretty good for us.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It turns out we can use boredom to our advantage,
and so we'll talk about that because sometimes you're on
your phone and you're scrolling and you know you're wasting time,
and it's so easy, and you realize that there is
a little benefit or a lot of a benefit to
just sitting in stillness, right. I mean, you don't have
(00:39):
to be a Buddhist monk and wear the robes and
shave your head and live in silence, but it is
nice not to be inundated with stimulation all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's good for you.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've talked about it before, So a trick on how
to embrace boredom, whether you're standing in the checkout line
or getting the car washed or what have you. Coming
up later in the show, we're going to be talking
about compatibility. There are questions that therapists would ask, and
the love is blind pods to assess compatibility.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
If you haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Love is Blind, good for you. I, on the other hand,
I'm fully entrenched in Love is Blind.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I've watched all of the seasons.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's awful television, highly addictive, garbage television. It does nothing
for your intellectual health.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Love is Blind is a show based on a group
of men and a group of women, usually late twenties,
early thirties, and they meet each other in these pods.
They don't see each other. They have these long conversations.
They are armed with questions for each other to get
to know each other, and at the end they settle
on one person. Usually they they're into two or three people,
(01:51):
and then they whittle it down to one person, and
then they propose to them at the end, And the
first time that they see each other is after proposal
has already been done, or it's at the time when
they first see each other, as when they propose, and
nobody pulls out of it, because then you look like
an a hole, because then it's just that you don't
like the way he looks or she looks, or what
have you. But anyway, then they follow them to a
(02:15):
resort where they live together for the first time, and
then they follow them home where they live together the
first time in real life. But there are questions that
arise in the pods of is this somebody who I
could live with forever? And what kind of questions would
you think to ask if your son or daughter brought
home someone and they were serious, what question would you
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say that they would have to get asked before they
took the next step. Let us know using the talkback
feature on the iHeartRadio app, because we will get to
that coming up later this hour. Well, Trump's speech to
Congress has all of the ingredients for a show. In fact,
that is what he is telling us. That is going
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to be must see TV. The Trump says on the
social the night will be big. He will tell it
like it is. And like I said earlier, I mean,
this isn't emboldened Trump. You're coming off the news that
President Zelenski and Ukraine now regrets that Oval Office meeting
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with Trump. That's what he said, It did not go
the way it was supposed to be. That he is ready,
that Ukraine is ready to work fast end the war.
Trump's going to see this as a major win and
tonight will be his victory.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Lap, Make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He is going to be emboldened and it's going to
be interesting to what he says when it comes to
the tariffs. Right when you look at China and Mexico
and Canada and what we bring in.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The Target CEO already.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Saying that you're going to see fruits and vegetable prices
go up because Target relies heavily on Mexico during the winter.
So what kinds of things will we see and how quickly?
And just don't put any credence into those things. When
it comes to what a trade war would do to inflation?
What's the endgame here? Is it just about the fentanyl?
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Will he address that? Those are all things that I'm
interested to hear, and he will be speaking at six
pm our time. You would call it a state of
the Union. I mean, it's got all of the bells
and the whistles. It's got the Chambers of Congress, it's
got the Supreme Court Justices, you've got the secret person
in the secret room. If the whole place is blown up,
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all of that, it's just not called state of the
Union because of where it lands. But this is the
first time that he's going to be addressing Congress since
he took office, So it may be it may be
at the least contentious. There is going to be some protesting.
When it comes to Democrats, there is going to be
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some talking back. It is going to be a show,
make no mistake about it. When it comes to what's
going on locally at LA City Hall. Right now, I
am watching people from the LA Fire Department, whether it's
fire department union members or what have you, kind of
make their way into city Hall chambers. This is the
first time Kristin Crowley has appeared in public since she
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was fired two weeks ago by Karen Bass, the mayor.
This is the fight over who did what or who
didn't do what when it came to the fires. Michael
Monks from KFI News is in the chambers right now.
She's expected Kristin Crowley to make an appeal to the
council to save her job or to get her job
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back as fire chief. And like I said, you could
see the slew of people in LA Fire Department T
shirts make their way inside. Michael Monks from KFI News
is inside. He has been texting me. He says it
is capacity crowd, hot is ticket in town, all the
media is there, a lot of Union supporters there as well,
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but bass Is support are there as well. Public comment
until eleven forty five, he says, and then maybe showtime.
So right now, probably you're going to get a lot
of comments on both sides from people with the fire
department and people with the Bass camp, and then the
council will ask questions or you'll hear from Kristin Crowley
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at eleven forty five, possibly both. Again, I'm not sure
what the council can do in terms of giving her
her job back. Karen Bass is not there, as Michael
Monks reported to us early, She's been going about her
day tweeting about the oscars and things like that kind
of treating this is rather insignificant.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
As she moves forward, We're past that, We're.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Moving on the way that she explained it was that
Kristin Crowley was shown the door at the fire department
because it was under Kristin Crowley's watch that a thousand
firefighters were not at their post when the fire broke out,
that they were in fact sent home. The fact that
Kristin Crowley did not fill out the after action.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Report post fires. This is all clerical and silly.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
The reason behind this is that Kristin Crowley came out
and laid Karen Bass squarely under the bus, saying that
City Hall and Karen Bass cut the fire department and
that it showed when those fires made their ways through
the Palisades and Alta Dina. All right, Coming up next,
we will go live to get a reaction on Capitol
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Hill about the address, what lawmakers are expecting, and what
those fireworks will be when we hear from the President
tonight at six. Do you know the story about Ruby Frankie.
This was the mom of six kids who pretty much
(07:47):
filmed her kids growing up and put it on YouTube.
There's this whole world that I was ignorant to families
that document their kids' lives and they share it and
just some of the intimate stuff as well about their
kids' lives, things that you would never think to share
maybe with your best friend or family or something like
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that about your kids, but putting it out there on
YouTube for everyone to see. It is a whole industry,
and these people are making thousands of dollars, tens of
thousands of dollars a month by seemingly exploiting their kids
for hits and likes and comments and fame, and she
is kind of the poster child for how it can
(08:28):
all go wrong. There is a new documentary it's called
The Devil in the Family. I fell into it yesterday
on Hulu, and I think my jaw was open for
about eighty percent of the time I was watching this.
It's just three parts, and the husband features prominently in
the documentary, and the whole time, I'm just wondering, what's wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
With this guy?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He seems like such a good guy, normal smart. How
would you just go along for this crazy train ride
for as long as that he did. Anyway, we'll get
into it in the whole industry coming up in true
Crime Tuesday Crime, because yeah, this is a mom that
is serving time because of what she did to her
kids towards the end of seeking fame with her YouTube channel.
(09:11):
America's two biggest lottery games are on the up and up.
There was no grand prize winner in the Powerball drawing yesterday.
That jackpot has been pushed up to two hundred and
ninety five million dollars ahead of the next drawing on tomorrow.
I believe ahead of that, there's another chance to get
(09:31):
rich with mega millions. Tonight's drawing stands at two hundred
and fifteen million dollars with a cash option just shy
of one hundred and one million bucks.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Here's something fun to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Possibly, John Stewart is inviting Elon Muks to be a
guest on The Daily Show. Stuart criticized Musk's doze last week,
and Elon posted on X he'd go on the show
if the interview aired unedited, and then on the show yesterday,
John and Stuart says that they would be delighted to
have him. It can be fifteen minutes, an hour, two hours, whatever,
(10:06):
so that would be fun to watch that conversation between
the two. We are in the midst of swamp watch
and a lot to do. We knew that when Trump
swept back into office there would be no boring swamp watch,
and there hasn't been, and my goodness. Usually a joint
addressed to Congress by a president is a snooze event.
(10:28):
It is something that we often think, oh, we should
probably listen to this, we should probably hear it, but
you don't really want to. It's not going to be
entertaining with President Biden. It got uncomfortable, didn't it. It
gets boring, It can get preachy at times, depending who
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the president is. It's the same kind of verbiage about
moving America forward, and it's a pat on the back,
and it's here's what I want to do. All these
untenable goals. It's just the same, of the same and
more of the same. But tonight, tonight may be some fireworks.
(11:09):
President Trump calling it must see TV, saying it's going
to be a big night. We've got the backdrop, a
backdrop of a trade war. We've got Ukrainian President Zelenski
coming out and saying he regrets what happened in the
Oval Office, which is sure to be a win in
Trump's mind. Kelly Meyer joins US Now Washington correspondent in
(11:30):
DC for our News Nation. Kelly is the one who
asks all the tough questions running around Capitol Hill all
day long. And Kelly, what is the vibe today on
Capitol Hill? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And right now we're actually over at the White House
right now as President Trump is getting ready for his
speech tonight, and this will be his big address to Congress,
of his first address to Congress, of his second term.
A White House special to tell us that it's expected
to go about an hour, but they do tell us
as well that he's going to address some of the accomplishments,
(12:03):
they say, of his first month in office, talking Bucky economy,
the border, and also foreign policy. So we can expect
to hear more on the plan for peace as he's
called it in Ukraine, as has been back and forth
between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zlinsky, to say the
least after that Oval Office blow up last Friday. We'll
also be watching for this trade war that's kind of
(12:26):
really been kicking off just in the last few hours here,
as President Trump put those twenty five percent tariffs on
Canada and Mexico. Then now we're seeing and as well
as China, and then now we're seeing those countries firing
back against Trump. So now this is kind of going
back and forth, so we can't expect maybe more talk
of that tonight too, but as always, we're kind of
expecting the unexpected as well.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About the trade wars.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
This is something that the President has not wavered on
because he has said it has to do with fentanyl
crossing the borders, at least when it comes to Mexico
and Canada. Taken to the numbers, Mexico's much more the culprit.
I believe there were maybe nineteen interactions involving fentanyl at
the US Canadian border just last year, as opposed to
something like ninety six hundred with Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Is it just about the fentanyl?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Will he lay out his end game for these tariffs
now that we've been hit with retaliatory tariffs?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, even he is threatening, just not too long
ago on truth Social about putting more tariffs back on Canada.
If they're hitting back with retaliatory tariffs, he's talking about
the reciprocal tariffs that will go back on in the
same amount. So he's still playing hardball with this. He's
still threatening to come back with even more tariffs on
these countries. We don't know exactly what kind of impact
(13:45):
we're going to see here. I've talked to advisors here
at the White House. They said that this is going
to not hurt American pocketbooks. But there are Democrats on
Capitol Hill kind of rallying ahead of this address tonight,
saying it is going to be consumers that are going
to be hit hard from these tariffs, so a lot
up in the air, but a lot happening in the
last few hours.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So Elon Musk will be there tonight. We saw him
at the Cabinet meeting last week. He seems to be
a common fixture there. What administration officials saying this afternoon
there will be a lot of surprises and a lot
of made for TV moments. Any idea what those would entail,
We don't know just yet.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We are at the White House that we might check
back and see if there's anything else they could share.
A lot they're keeping under wraps. We know the theme,
we know what they're going to hit on, we know
some of the guests they're going to have there with
the First Lady, about fifteen guests total, and traditionally presidents
use that as a way to highlight parts of their agenda.
But we don't know exactly what the surprises might be.
But we do know if they've been pointing to this
as more of a you know, made for TV production type.
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He has done reality TV. It is somewhat of the
Trump Show. So they did say to Toomid and that
they called it must see TV. At least Caroline Levett
herself called it that to us.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Have you heard anything in in terms of protests.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I read that there are some Democrats that will have
some sort of showing of resistance, I guess for lack
of a better word.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, And I think we can't expect that there's going
to be some members that are just not going at all.
We've heard more and more throughout the day that there's
some members announcing that they're just not going to go.
There's something, you know, they'll wear something specific or color
and as a way of kind of protesting. We don't
know if we'll see any actions you know, we've seen
in the past, you know, Pelosi rip up the speech
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or do the kind of side alligator clap back. So
there may be some moments, but it's definitely going to
be something to watch to see exactly how they kind
of push back against this. But we also know there's
been things happening throughout the day outside the capital with
Democrats speaking out with protests, so we can't expect it
to be very lively for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
All Right, Kelly Meyer, White House correspondent there with News Nation,
Thanks so much. A lot going on there today and
you will stay on top of it. Just like News
Nation always so appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
All right, coming up, Well, we will stand top of
what's going on there and KFI will take the address
live tonight at six o'clock. And if they're advertising made
for TV moments, I think that's what we're going to get.
This is not a Pambondi special. I think there is
something in these binders, but we will find out. Remember
to let us know what is your compatibility question? There
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are therapists that work for the Love Is Blind franchise
and say they've got a series of questions that they
use for the kids and the pods to figure out
if they're compatible with whoever's on the opposite side of
the pod. What's your compatibility question? What do you think
a couple should agree upon to go the distance? Let
us know using that talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app
and we will tackle that later this hour. Big day
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locally and nationally when it comes to politics. Right now,
all the doings going on are at La City Hall,
where ousted fire chief Kristin Crowley is expected to plead
for her job back to the city council. KFI news
as Michael Monks is in the chambers and says the
action's about to start within about ten minutes in terms
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of that agenda item coming.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Up, so we will take you there.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Lives should s go down, for lack of a better term,
We've got President Trump addressing a joint session of Congress
tonight at six pm, where.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He says it will be must see TV.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of course, the backdrop of a trade war, all this
mess with Ukraine. The Ukrainian President coming out today and
basically giving President Trump a win, saying he regrets what
happened in the Oval Office and that he's willing to
work with the United States for peace.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Big news coming.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Out of the NFL Eagles rewarding Saquon Barkley with a
two year, forty one point two million dollar contract extension
makes him the highest paid running back in NFL history.
Running Backs have had a tough road d hoe in
recent years in terms of getting paid of viewed as expungible.
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This makes Saquon the NFL's first twenty million plus per
year running back. Huge deal, not just for Saquon Barkley,
but what it means for other running backs. Not that
he is not different, he is almost breaking Eric Dickerson's
record for single season rushing yards this season alone, and
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just a great guy. I don't know him, but seemingly
not a better guy. That could happen too. Dolly Parton's son,
excuse me, she never had kids. Dolly Parton and her husband,
they were together for sixty years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Carl Dean, eighty two years.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Old, has died, and there are so many fun little
things about their life together. That odd thing, I mean,
I guess it's not odd, but they didn't have kids.
In fact, that he kind of stayed out of the limelight.
He went to one award show with her in sixty
six and then said, you know what, I'm done with those.
I love you, I'll support you, but I'm not dealing
with that anymore. She was talking in recent interviews about
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how the two would always have pancakes or waffles on
the weekend, that it was their breakfast ritual, that those
were comfort foods, and that they would share Sunday brunch together,
and she said that that he was always her safety,
her security, her strength. He's been a good husband, We've
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had a good life, and that she would have all
she was She always said she'd put it all aside
if he needed her. She said, I would only retire
if I was ill or if my husband was ill
and he needed me. So together sixty years met at
the Wishy Washy laundromat. I love that, and he said,
upon meeting her, that's the one I'm going to marry.
I love those stories boredom. There was an article in
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Vox about boredom because there was a guy who wrote
a book about it. James Dackert is him Professor of
Cognitive Neuroscience at the University of Waterloo, and his book
is called Out of My Skull, The Psychology of Boredom,
and it was interesting to me because we are not
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bored anymore. You probably remember life before cell phones. Maybe
it was a long summer day, you didn't have anything
going on, you didn't have to go to school, and
the boredom sets in.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm bored.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
If you had parents that said i'll give you something
to be bored about, good for you. But it's not
a thing that we engage in anymore. We don't have to.
We're constantly stimulated by our phones, and you can argue
whether that's good or that's bad, but there's no shortage
of things to fill our time, if we're standing in
line at the check stand or waiting for the car
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to get washed or what have you. But James Dankert
has written a book all about it and making the
most out of boredom if it does strike you, and
he's got these these ways of coping that I think
could be helpful, probably for children, but now we're all
children because we are so we have the ten and
span of a gnat now because of the phones.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not just the kids that are addicted.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If we're being honest with ourselves, we're all addicted to
being stimulated all the time. And so he says that
when the feeling does arise is boredom, to use it
as a reminder that what you're doing is not meaningful
and seek out something that is. For instance, pop in
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a podcast while you're folding laundry. If you're dreading folding
laundry because it's so bored, throw on a podcast. It
makes it feel less like drudgery. Perhaps you go to
YouTube you find a tutorial on making bread or something
like that. On an afternoon where the sky is gray
and you've got nothing planned, Hey look at making bread
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and maybe get into that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But I will caution you.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Once you get into bread making, or in my situation,
my husband got into bread making, it is a dangerous road.
Dangerous road when you come home and you smell that
fresh loaf of sourdough on the counter, something that you
don't ever want to give up, and nor do your thighs.
For circumstances, he writes, where you're unable to up and leave,
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like school or work, he says, try to make the
experience more profound. Focus on why I am here and
what's the deeper purpose so that the experience feels more meaningful.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh yeah, that's great advice.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're sitting there bored at work or school, and you're
supposed to think about why am I here? What gives
this meaning? That's awful advice. I mean, come on, start
making up false narratives about people you work with in
their lives. That's a fun time. You're sitting in a
boring meeting to be like, I wonder what he's into
at home? You know, is this a guy who walks
around in his underwear? Is his wife tired of that?
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That gives you more entertainment than thinking about your meaning
and your workplace. I say, if you're growing impatient on
a long road trip, find challenges or ways to make
the situation more stimulating, that car games exists for a reason,
or make your own up. The author says, my brother
and I growing up used to play this game called
who would You ask for Help? In this room right now?
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If you had to pick one person to ask for help,
who would it be? And why that's stupid? As well?
Whether there's the fun in that find the most reliable
person and identify them. Now you want to play the
game called who would you not ask for help? And
then talk about why they're awful and why they would
not be the person that you that you look to.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know what, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
An awful book. I mean, I'm sure there's some I'm
sure there's some good things in here. They say that
the solution to a soul crushingly boring job might be
to find another one. Well, no, s but it's not
always easy or realistic for many people. So he suggests
reframing your current employment situation. You're not living to work,
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you're working to live. Now that I can get on
board with. I think too infrequently you're thinking that your
job should be everything and it should be perfect for you.
And that's not what it's there for. It's just there
for the money. You're just going there for the paycheck.
If you're looking for fulfillment, look elsewhere. It's not at work.
Probably except for my job. I feel totally fulfilled. I
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love it here. Coming up after Deborah's news at the
top of the hour, Well, of course, Deborah will have
all the news, and we will try to even give
you more news when we talk about what's happening and
everything everyone's talking about everywhere. We tackle it all every
day here at twelve o'clock on the Gary and Shannon Show.
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Gary and Shannon, we are awaiting two things. One of
the things is happening right now at La City Hall,
as ousted fire Chief Kristin Crowley is there inside the
chambers expected to ask the city council for her job.
This is, I want to say, unprecedented, at least in
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the twenty years that I've been reporting in La. This
doesn't happen the mayor there.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh, and this is now do we have this anywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
She has just taken a seat behind the podium there
inside the council chambers. Kristin Crawley has to appeal to
the City Council to be reinstated with her job.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We should have it up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Channel four has it if we can pull that up,
guys getting around to the plaza there, Kristin Crowley is
it's filled, by the way. The chambers is with LA
Fire Department officials, union members. They put out the call
this morning and people answered. It is standing room only
inside the LA City Hall chambers right now as she
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appeals for her job back.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
We extended an invitation to Chief Crowley to speak to
this hearing this morning to make the case, and so
she has contented to join us this morning, and so
we will hear from her first.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, Council President. Are honored and
very very honored City Council members, our community members that
have taken the time to be here and to listen
in and two are amazing and incredible LAFD firefighters who
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do the work every single day. Thank you so much
for being here. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I stand.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Or sit.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Before you today not only as the former fire chief
appealing to be reinstated, but as a leader who has
always placed the safety, health and well being of our
incredible and heroic firefighters first, while always balancing and prioritizing
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the needs of the community that we love to serve. Now,
our firefighters, as you all know, are the absolute heart
and soul of the LAFD. As public servants, we took
an oath to place the needs of others before our
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own at great personal risk. We will do anything and
everything that we can do to save lives and to
protect property. It is our calling and it is our duty.
Now adds the fire Chief, it was my duty and
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responsibility to ensure that our firefighters have everything they need
to do their jobs and to make sure that they
go home to their families the next day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Standing up.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Doing the right thing, and advocating for our firefighters, their families,
and for the communities that we serve are the reasons
that I am here today. Over my twenty five year career,
in all of the ranks that I have held, I
have seen our fire department struggle from year to year
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with limited funding, staffing, and resources. We are past the
point of sustaining our services without compromising public safety and
the safety of our firefighters. For nearly three years as
the fire chief, I have submitted realistic budget requests that
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were carefully crafted based on data, reports, analysis, and recommendations
from outside independent agencies that show just how understaffed and
under resource the LAFD is. Since twenty ten, there's been
a fifty five percent increase in overall calls for fire
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and emergency services with fewer firefighters providing those life saving services.
And yes, the LAFD is half the size we should
be regarding the firefighter or paramedic positions. Lack of long
term investments in the LAFD. Budget cuts have led to
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increased response times, lack of available fire engines, trucks and ambulances,
deleted civilians, support staff and mechanics, identified gaps in fire
and emergency services, infrastructure challenges, firefighter fatigue, firefighter mental health concerns,
and injuries to our firefighters. We know that our firefighters
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are asked to do more with less every single day.
When we fail to take care of our firefighters, we
fail to take care of our communities. I do believe
that there is a path forward, one that finds a
way to keep our communities safe by investing in long
term strategies to build out the LAFD the right way,
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through your leadership, every single person around this horseshoe, through
your leadership, the support of our amazing communities that we
love to serve, and the continued dedication and commitment sacrifice
of our firefighters. I am certain, deep down in my
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heart that we can find a way to fund and
support the LAFD now and into the future. Next, in
regard to my appeal, now, I will set the record
straight about the multiple false accusations that were made against me. First,
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I did not refuse to conduct an after action report,
and let me be clear, this is a false accusation.
During our discussions after an action after report, I should say,
during our discussions about and after action report, I advised
the fire commissioners about my opinion that was best in
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regard to how to use LAFD resources, I said that
the LFD is not capable nor do we have the
proper resources to adequately conduct an after action report for
the Palisades fire. Due to the sheer, magnitude, scope and
complexity of the incident, we are already understaffed, under resourced, underfunded,
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and based on my knowledge of the lafd's resources and capabilities,
I recommended simply to collaborate with Governor Newsom's already selected
and funded Agency Fire Safety Research Institute or FSRI, because
they are already conducting in independent analysis of the windstorm
and fire events in the Los Angeles and Ventura Counties.
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In contrast to the LAFD, FSRI has a capability to
conduct a proper, thoroughly researched and analyzed after action report
and wildfire analysis.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And listening to Kristin Crowley, ousted fired chief here in
La pleading for her job back at city Hall, you're
listening to KFI kosd HD two Los Angeles or Inn County.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
This is what they are already being paid to do.
Prior to me leaving the meeting, the fire commissioners agreed
with my recommendation that FSRI is the best equipped to
conduct the after action report. FSRI will also be publishing
its findings and recommendations, like it did for the line
of fire that occurred in early August twenty twenty three
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on the island of Maui. Now, my position has not changed,
and I wholeheartedly support the need for a professional organization
to conduct a full analysis of the Palisades fire. We
owe that to the community. We owe that to the
Fire Service, and that is the path forward. These steps
are essential to improving response efforts, guiding recovery, and building
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a better and safer disaster resilience community for our future. Second,
on the morning of the fire, I did not send
home one thousand firefighters who could have hopped on fire
engine and fought the Palisades fired, Nor did I leave
forty available fire engines unstaffed. These are all false accusations.
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As well, the forty fire engines in question were already
staffed and running nine one one calls with on duty
personnel in their normal configuration when the Palisades fire broke out.
Those fire engines were appropriately staffed and were used where
they were needed. Additionally, at eight hundred hours on January seventh,
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twenty twenty five, the LAFD pre deployed twenty four engines,
three battalion command teams, five brush patrols, two water tenders,
additional air operations personnel, and additional dispatchers. These one hundred
and twenty eight pre deployed and augmented personnel were strategically
placed in wildfire prone areas across the entire city, near
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multiple freeways to ensure a rapid response. Our action were
based on the recommendations of our subject matter experts, the
lafd's emergency operations staff. As for the thousand firefighters who
allegedly were sent home prior to the fires, we did
not have enough apparatus to put them on because of
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the budget cuts and lack of investments in our fleet maintenance.
Over one hundred of our fire engines, fire trucks and
ambulances sat broken down in our maintenance yards, unable to
be used to help during one of the worst wildfire
events in our history. And third, it is also a
false allegation that we failed to notify the Mayor's office
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about the upcoming weather event. I stand by our previous
statements about this. The LAFD engaged in all of its
standard communications, including emailing two separate media advisories, conducting multiple
live and recorded media interviews about the predicted extreme weather
and fire danger, and also notify in city officials about
the upcoming war other events. The Emergency Management Department also
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plays a key role in notifying the Mayor's Office. In
City officials and the Mayor's office itself also set out
multiple media messages prior to the fire's warnings about the
expected destructive and potential life threatening windstorm. It is never
the wrong time to do the right thing and to
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speak the truth. And the truth is that the fire
chief should not be prevented from or punished for speaking
openly and honestly about the needs and capabilities of the LFD,
or for doing their best to protect our firefighters and
our communities. In closing, it has been an absolute honor
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of my life to serve and represent the incredible men
and women of the LAFD as their fire chief. Our
people do amazing things every single day and I am
so grateful beyond words to have been in this position
for nearly three years. We have much to be proud of,
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and we stand with and always will stand with the
communities that we serve with integrity, compassion and courage. I
urge you to vote to reinstate me as a fire chief.
But no matter how the vote goes, the LAFD, your
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LAFD deserves to be properly funded, staffed, and resourced so
that we can meet the ever growing needs of the community.
We owe that to the LAFD, and we owe that
to those we serve. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's Kristin Crowley, ousted fire chief there making her case
to the city council to reinstate her as chief. We'll
see if any of the council members ask questions of
her or speak up here a couple of rows of
firefighters applauding her comments there, all right.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Mister city attorney.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
So to the extent and thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
The extent that.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
There is any additional discussion, I would just like to
remind people in detail, because I know you were at
the table at the time, that to please be cognizant
of the attorney client privilege when it comes to answers
or questions. That includes discussions that were held in closed session.
That includes individual communications via email, text, or during conversations
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with the attorneys.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
So thank you, all right, Council Member Rodriguez, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
You Chief Crowley for being here. So, mister Harris Dawson,
I have a question because there's also some additional information
that I believe can corroborate some of what Chief Crowley
has asserted in terms of her cooperation that could be
validated by the CEO's office. Is it an opportunity for
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if Matt Zabo or Ben Seharer here to answer any questions,
because what we're.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Discussing is Monica Rodriguez, council member from the seventh District.
Speaker 8 (39:38):
Afford and honor the chief's appeal based on the cited
reasons that we're disclosed by the mayor for her dismissal,
and if we have facts to corroborate her position, I
think that's that's warranted to be heard. And so my
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question is, would I be afforded the opportunity to ask
mister Zabel to come forward on some of the assertions
that were made that led to her dismissal so that
we could correct the record.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I will defer to the city attorney on that question,
but I will point out I will disagree with councilor.
Remember Rodriguez, the city attorney was very clear that the
mayor can fire the chief for any reason or for
no reason at all. So whether or not we establish
that we agree with the assessment that the mayor made
or we don't agree with the assessment, it doesn't call
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into question the mayor's authority to make the decision that
she did.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
It's not questioning the mayor's authority. I'm not questioning the
mayor's authority. I'm questioning what was cited as the reason.
And if we're going to consider Chief Crowley's appeal, why
wouldn't we consider the facts as we know them that
could be corroborated by the CEO's office. And that's what
I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So they're asking this one who can show the math
of why Kristin Crowley was showing the.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
So again, it's fine to do that. I just want
to be clear that even if you were to discredit
every one of the reasons, it does not it does
not in any way shade the mayor's authority in this regard.
But we'll call the city administrative officer up to take
the questions that you have, and we'll excuse Miss Crowley
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from the table at this time.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Matt Zabo, by the way, used to be Viara Gosa's
a DRED years ago.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
During our budget deliberations, your office recommended when we had
requested investigating the fire department's request for the additional mechanics
to repair the apparatus, when your office recommended against funding
those positions. Was there anybody on your staff that went
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out to verify the number of apparatus that were out
of commission at the time. I'm looking at a memo
dated May eighth, twenty twenty four, that your office does
not recommend the department's requests for the additional positions.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I don't believe so, Matzebo, City Administrative Officer. The recommendation
in the budget memo would have been related to the
fact that the positions that were eliminated were vacant positions,
and many of them had been vacant for some time.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
All Right, So we'll pull away from this because they're
going to get into the weeds of line by line
of why the city Council made the decisions that it
made with the help of the mayor to go ahead
with these cuts that Christen Crowley just testified before the
City Council, if that's the right word, that really led
to the department being understaffed and underfunded to take on
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fires of this size are really just everyday business for
the fire department. Michael Monks from KFI News has been
covering this story, joins us now and it seems like now, Michael,
the city council members are asking the Controller's office for
the city to kind of show the math behind the
decision to get rid of Kristin Crowley, and because she's
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pushing back saying that she didn't make the decisions to
keep those one thousand firefighters home, and that she gave
the right reasons for more money to be sent to
the fire department before the council.
Speaker 9 (43:34):
Absolutely, I mean, this is going to be an argument
today about math in a lot of ways. The main
math equation we've been talking about is she needs ten
on a of fifteen council members. But there's also budget
math to look at, because in the aftermath of these fires,
we heard Chief Crowley say, we didn't get the funding
that we need to be as prepared as we should
be for a massive wildfire like the one that devastated
the Palisades. We don't have the manpower, and when we
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do have manpower, we don't have the equipment. And so
that's what they're going to be digging into. That's been
her defense in many ways all along. Was the disaster
unfolded the way it did not because I didn't send
a text message to Mayor Bass about the forecast, but
because we are not physically prepared to attack a fire
of this nature in those conditions, because of decisions made
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outside of this department by city Hall.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Now she's making it less about her and her performance
and more about the fact that she came before these
same people and to her point, laid out why they
are basically compromising the safety of all of us in
Los Angeles and themselves with being so underfunded that there
was outside resources, outside agencies that came in even and
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made the case that the LA Fire Department is vastly underfunded.
So I guess we're going to hear a lot more
of what was already litigated before these same people.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Certainly, you've got Matt Sabo, the city administrator there, who
crafts the budget and presents it to council each year.
I sat through a lot of budget meetings fast fiscal
year leading up to this very budget that was approved,
and there were certainly declarations of upset about the fire
Department's budget, but every department was cut except for the
Police department, Street Services, animal Services, public works. All of
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the departments took hits except for the police department. But
the Fire department was very vocal and even then that
they were not getting their fair share of what they need.
So that is documented. This city is in a financial crisis.
Just about as it is anyway. Their financial condition has
only gotten worse this year. That guy that you just
heard speaking, Matt Zabo, has his hands full with getting
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ready to enter another budget season in a year that's
going to be far worse than it was last year,
which was already bad.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
All right, Michael Monks. Michael, by the way, came to
LA and said, I want to live at City Hall.
I want to be the reporter that pays attention to
everything that's going on.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
And he did. He basically lived at City.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Hall for a very long time and is entrenched for
days like today when we need to know what the
hell is going on. Everybody has their own story and
he's been able to dig through the details and tell
us what's what. Appreciate your time Michael today and he
will be monitoring things as they continue there in the
chambers and City Hall. We'll bring you all the pertinent
information that comes out of that. Again, it's going to
(46:15):
get very granular when it comes to line by line
budget items of who's telling the right story. We're probably
going to find out in the end that yes, the
LA Fire Department is underfunded, where's up money going and
where did it go? Instead of the Fire Department. We
don't have those answers at this point, but this may
go the distance through the afternoon. Again, We'll stay on
(46:37):
top of it, as will Michael Monks there from KFI
News at La City Hall.
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