March 12, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App.
It is Wednesday, March twelfth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tariff Tuesday has turned into Wild Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Ooh, I like the branding.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The roller coaster tariff issues that we've been sealing. Saw
the President threaten to double duties on Canadian steel and
aluminum to fifty percent. Ontario said that they're going to
place a surcharge on electricity.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
They took that off. Trump took twenty five percent off.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But the European Union is now talking about leveling tariffs
on billions of dollars worth of products like bourbon and
motorcycles and stuff like that from the United States that
goes to Europe.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So I would say new day, new details, but it's
like new hour, new details when it comes to the
tariffs and everyone's reaction to it, whether it is Washington,
Wall Street or other countries. So we'll stay on top
of that Department of Education being gutted. It looks like
they're going to cut about half of it. I was
a little bit surprised at how small, in my opinion,
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the Department of Education is.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's only
about four thousand or plus employees. Yeah, I thought it
would have been into the ten thousand ish, but yeah,
about four thou I think they said four thy one
hundred positions existed in the Department of Education the day
that Trump was inaugurated, and that about sixteen hundred if
not more, of those would be cut along with the
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education employees who had already taken the advanced retirement or
had been you know, let go for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So more importantly, we have a local national nightmare to address.
Do we have any local national nightmare music?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
How about an LA band talking about the national nightmare
that exists?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Okay, so would this be? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I am ashamed of you and I shall not make
eye contact with you for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What do you mean? Who is this?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Is this not? Is this not from my generation?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You could argue that it's not from your generation. But
if you don't know this song, I'm machined Writers on
the Storm. It is Writers on the Storm by.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The guy who is really high all the time?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right, But he was in a band dead now he's dead,
dead dead.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He was in a band with Raymond Zeric.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think he peed on a crowd at one point,
keep going and may have electrocuted himself with the uriner separate,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Played by Val Kilmer, right in the.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Movie Morrison, Jim Morrison, Jim.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Morrison, and he's buried in France. And what do I
know so much? The name of the band is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The Jim Morrison. Sorry, I'm having a brain fog. It's
I have seasonal effective.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Disorder, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Katla's Casey Montoya joins us. She is not just a meteorologist,
not that it's just a meteorologist. That is a lot
of education that you and I could not pomplished. Probably,
not to be rude to you, I'm sure you could
if you put your mind to it, but you haven't.
But Casey is a reporter. She's a journalist. She's fantastic,
she's award winning. And she joins us now because we
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love Kate's La and we love Casey, and she was
kind enough to make some time for us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Casey, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I'm great. I've been thoroughly entertained listening to you guys.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Casey, do you know the name of the band The Okay,
the Doors?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know it's because it's my boyfriend's favorite band. And
if I don't know that, I would die, like he
would probably kill me.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, really love that.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
She did you tell Gary how we kind of met electronically?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I did, and he was kind of creepy about it,
to the point where I didn't know if I wanted
to have you on the show because he was like
she did, she she she listens to the show, and
like she did. But you don't even need to calm
it down before we get her on. I don't want
you to embarrass me, is what I think.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I said, Wait, Gary, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was great, It was very positive. It was just
a nice surprise that people listen to the show I do.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
The crazy thing is so I lived in West Hollywood,
like so close to work for years, and I moved
to the South Bay last summer, so now I had
a commute and I've been listening to you guys for
like since August, and I never because I'm driving, I
never take the time to think like, oh, I should
look up and see you know, what they look like,
and then just randomly, you guys pop up in my
feet and I was like, oh my god, Shannon's hot,
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and so I started messaging her and I was like,
it just makes sense why she knows about football now,
and like our world's colliding, and so you probably think
I'm weird, but that's how it happened.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Not at all weird, And all the weirdness is on
our side of the table. Okay, So who is Henry?
I don't even know who Henry is anymore? Henry who
I don't even know?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Placco right.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The best? So, Casey, what's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Going on with this storm? How long are we going
to be living in this long local nightmare?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So what's really concerning is tonight. And you know what's
so frustrating is that people watch the news and it's
almost like they put mute when I'm on because I
get asked every day, like a dozen times, when's the
rain coming. I'm like, did you watch the news?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, I saw you, but no one pays attention. So tonight, well,
I can't say no one. A lot of people starting tonight,
like La County is going to start getting really heavy
rains first, like maybe around midnight, possibly Ventura County a
little sooner. We're getting like a direct hit from an
atmospheric river, you know, the buzzword of the century, and
it's going to bring a lot of moisture overnight into
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early Thursday morning. And what's so concerning is that this
is going to be so heavy. If we get rainfall
rates of three quarters of an echine hour, that's likely
to produce flooding, not just for burnscar areas, but for
you know, urban areas. So we think that that's likely
going to happen in several spots. And look, the good
news about this happening overnight is that we're not on
the roads driving around like we would be at five pm.
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But it's it's probably going to cost them. The winds
associated with it are likely going to cause some downtrees,
maybe down power lines, and then things will start to
lighten up by nine o'clock tomorrow morning. But then there's
still a chance of seeing possibly heavy showers Thursday throughout
the day, but nothing like what we're going to get overnight.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We when we hit into the beginning of January, we
started the year obviously the fires in Palisades in Altadena,
there was a concern that we had what four tenths
of an inch of rain throughout the entire season. We've
made some good inroads on that, but where do we
stand in terms of average rainfall so far?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I was just looking that up, like it's different
for certain areas, but we're still several inches below where
we should be. And you know, normally like northern California
would be getting a lot of these storms. They're not
getting any of this storm. So we like them to
get rain because then we get snow on the mountains,
which helps as well. But even though it feels like
it's been raining so much lately, we're still several inches
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below where we should be for this time of year.
And even with this series of storms right now, we're
probably not going to cat.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Kacey Montoya kt LA catch her every midday.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I feel like the people in Majesica.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Canyon, they're in Orange County, they just have to have
like a constant evacuation bag at the front door. I
feel like every time it rains, we're talking about them
possibly being evacuated. And that's going back like five hundred years.
It seems like they always get the reins. Maybe some
of the burn areas, but that they're always under this
evacuation warning.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And those those are terrifying to be under. But look
what we've learned. You know a lot of people have
told me personally, you know, I never used to evacuate
when I got a warning, and now they're evacuating before
the warnings, like ahead of the storm. I know several
people who went to go stay in a hotel. So
people are starting to listen. We wish more people would
have listened before the fires, if I'm being honest, But
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you know, we we're here to do a service to
tell people what's what's coming. So you know how to prepare,
because I always say, even on TV, just prepare for
the worst and expect the best.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Excellent stuff. Casey, thanks for taking time for us.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Today, big fan. So I'll hee you guys on the
radio as I get in the car here in a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We'll talk again. If especially if this storm gets any
we should have her over here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We should have her here and hang out with us
for like an hour or something that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
We'll have a lot of clean up and stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
To make it presentable.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Not me, I'm just saying the room.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know, No, I know the whole thing, right, It
starts with you. It starts with you, Casey, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Thank you bye for your patience.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Hey, it's not from my generation either, but it's Jim
and the Morris.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh, somebody's at the door.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I gotta go Frank some cokeson please?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
All right, Crazy tariff Tuesday turns into wacky Wednesday, and
we have no idea what Wall Street's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Live everywhere on the iHeart raid.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is there anybody of any interest?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't think so. I mean there's there's people around,
but I don't know if there's a if it has
tickled any of the you know, bring parts, I don't know.
First of two storms to SoCal is gone. The next
one rolls in tonight, as we saw with our friend Casey,
a new friend, Casey Montoya from KTLA, just talking about
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about one to two inches of rain along the coast,
maybe ups as much as four inches in the valleys.
And if it does get that, if we're on that
end of it, it's going to cause some localized flooding problems.
There is a court date today for Mahmud Khalil. He
is the Columbia University grad student or graduate who was
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picked up over the weekend. His green card was revoked.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, even as a green
card holder, you should not be able to engage in
activities that would form a legal basis to exclude you
from entering the kind of in the first place. And
he was accused of fomenting and leading some of those
pro Palestinian protests there at Columbia University. He's actually got
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a court hearing today, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, Well, we have some reaction to the tariffs. The
European Union today announcing retaliatory trade action with new duties
on US industrial and farm products.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
This is a response, are you going to laugh every
time I say duty?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Do you laugh every time you're in the airport and
you walk by the duty free store? Do you say,
as you're walking by, it ain't duty free? Right now,
I'm I'm about to go make a duty myself. Do
you do that tax?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Get it all out of your system?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Anyway, This is a response within hours to the Trump's
increase in tariffs on steel and aluminum imports to twenty
five percent. We are talking about goods from the US
worth around twenty six billion euros. Not just steel and aluminum,
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but textiles, home impliances, ad goods, motorcycles, bourbon, peanut, butter,
and jeans will also be hit.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The French are very concerned about the cosmetics industry. They
said that France imports about two hundred million euros a
little more than two hundred million dollars worth of American
makeup every year, but ex sports about ten times that
amount in the other direction. The head of the cosmetics
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industry association in France says, we are entering a trade
war that we do not want to be a part of.
I think you're going to see that kind of sentiment
in a lot of different industries. France and Spain and
Italy have all requested that European Commission exclude wine and
spirits from the.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
List of US goods that are targeted with tariffs.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So they're trying to carve out sort of things that
would be safer for them these individual individual I don't
know portions of industry. Now this is not being received well.
Wall Street. We've seen over the last couple of days
in negative territory. This morning that now actually started in
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positive territory because we got actually we got some good
news that inflation had slowed.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
In February.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
The Consumer Price Index measures price increases around the most
commonly purchased goods, showed about a two point eight percent
rise in overall prices in the economy, slowing down compared
to what we saw in January.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So that's good. That caused things to go positive.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But then you turn the corner and you realize that
we don't know how the day is going to end
when it comes to these tariff things. C NBC Steve
Leisman said, this is insanity.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Everyone's trying to add this up to say the math
doesn't make sense here to have all of these things
happening at the same time.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
I'm going to say this at risk of my job, Kelly,
but what President Trump is doing is insane. It is
absolutely insane. It is about the eighth reason we've had
for the tariffs. And now he's saying he's putting fifty
percent tariffs on Canada unless they agree to become the
fifty first state.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now again, that fifty percent was brought back to twenty
five percent.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It seems like the president has an endgame where he
does want the best for America in the long run,
in terms of why aren't we making this stuff here?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why aren't we looking out for us? Number One?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He told CEOs in that business roundtable yesterday that we
talked about that the tariffs are causing companies to invest
in US factories. The problem that some are arguing with
that is that it costs more, obviously to make things
here as opposed to importing it from other countries. The
eight percent drop and the S and P five hundred
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stock index over the past month on fears of deteriorating
growth that did not dissuade him at all. He argued
yesterday that higher tariff rates would be more effective at
bringing back factories to the US. Here's the quote from
the Trump himself. He said, the higher it goes, the
more likely it is they're going to build. The biggest
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win is if they move into our country and produce jobs.
He says, that's a bigger win than the tariffs themselves.
But the tariffs are going to be throwing off a
lot of money to this country, I mean, and that's
a long endgame. That's an endgame when he has left office.
That's an endgame, when the damage has been done, the
detritus is on the floor, and everyone hates Trump for
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a number of years till you And that's assuming that
other administrations will follow suits exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And there's no guarantee, I mean, just based on our
political system, there's no guarantee that even a Republican president
that would be elected in twenty twenty eight would continue
the same policy.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And it's interesting to me because Trump hates to be unpopular.
I mean, you saw it when he addressed Congress. You
can tell it bothers him that half of those chambers
did not stand for him, did not clap for him,
did not do anything, did not even give him the
time of day.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You could tell it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It sticks in his craw that people don't like him,
even if they are Democrats, even if they are the
people that think he is the monster. So the fact
that he would be doing something that is going to
be widely unpopular once the dust settles is odd to me.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There is something We've mentioned this multiple times in the
last couple of days. The Wall Street thrives on known outcomes.
It thrives on consistency, and when it's volatile like this,
that's when it's most dangerous for people who are in
the stock market. They call this the Cebo Volatility Index,
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known as the VICS, is what they refer to as
the fear game, and they said it has surged over
sixty percent so far this year to trade above twenty
seven point three earlier this week. They said it's a
statistically unusual level. And if we continue at this pace,
if we continue with all of this volatility, it erodes
the confidence that people have in stocks, and that's not.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Good for in the long term.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You shouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's not good for everybody, because not everybody's in the
stock market, But if you've got a four oh one K,
you're in it. If you have these other investments, you're
in it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Potentially bad and bless your heart if you and I
don't mean to be condescending, I mean truly bless your
heart if you're one of the people that checks your
four oh one K all the time, because that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Thing, you can't live or die with a day to
day on the four oh one k.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's too much. It's like it's It's like gambling. You
got to know you're not going to win that big
first hand right away. You got to play for a
long time and somebody had a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Why, Like, somebody's got a little bit of an addiction
they're working through.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Even then, the numbers are always in the house's favor.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
The longer you play, the less likely you are.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
To have one chance that I checked that for one case, there's.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Just one chance that I hit that number. Thirty two
on roulette.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what I always bet on. How did you know that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I've been there with you? Oh, I didn't know. That's
a wild guest.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, really that's my number, Like, that's my number,
and I don't just bet one. I bet like five
thirty two. Why thirty two? There's so many reasons, so
many okay, so little time.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Uh, would you survive the apocalypse? Would I.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Ow?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I like, how long after the.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
World would you survive the apocalypse? Did you give it
a day?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I find it interesting that there's so many shows, and
it's not just a recent thing a trend. How many
shows throughout the generations are centered around the apocalypse. Were
obviously extremely interested in the end of the world and
what it means and how we'll react. So there is
a new guide on how to survive the apocalypse at
least for ten days.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It is Wednesday, so late in the show, we'll be
doing what you're watching Wednesday. Let us know what it
is that you have been following up on. We have
some great trailers that are coming up. We're going to
post those up as well. Hacks season four, in fact,
is coming up next month already, so we'll talk about
stuff that's on television. Let you know what we've been
watching as well the stories that we're following. An American
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wrestler has been named a person of interest in the
disappearance of that pit student at the Dominican Republic. A
twenty four year old guy named Joshua Ribby being investigated
by a sheriff's office in Virginia after twenty year old
Sudiska Konaki vanished at the beginning of the month during
a break in Punta Kana. Now, he is reportedly being
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cooperative with authorities. According to the Dominican authorities. He's not
considered a suspect, just one of the guys that was
last seen with Sudiksha before she disappeared. Dominican authorities apparently
have taken his passport. However, according to a couple of
different sources, that doesn't mean that he's not free to leave.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
He can pick it up any time he wants, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Also space news is that this afternoon a launch expected
from Cape Canaveral, where the Boeing Boeing spacecraft that crapped
out a new one is supposed to be headed up
to the International Space Station to go pick up Sonny
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Williams and Butcher Wilmore.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I of suddenly am just overwhelmed with a smell. How's
the shower going, Well, it's just that they've had the
same underwear.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh, you're having a sensory, you're having a sympathetic one.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm thinking about what it smells inside that capsule on
the way home again.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think you're overestimating the amount of underpant that they have.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I think they're just they're done.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, you're right. Wow, do you think they ever wear
underwear again?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Why?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I mean they would did without for so long? Why
even go through the rigamarole of underwear anymore for the
rest of your days.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, for him, he's still got stuff that hangs, and
you don't want the gravitational pull once you get back
to Earth.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Could probably be I wonder how that works.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So like you just don't feel your genitals, Like, he
doesn't need underwear in space, right because they just kind
of like.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What are you doing with your hands?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, they just float up here right like.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I suppose I've never been.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's going to be quite a a re entry. Yeah,
if you haven't felt your genitals like that, that's why
he's got a sill.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Weight of your genitals. You haven't felt them for months.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They both have to sit down for a week basically.
But when they get home home to Earth because the
gravitational poll is going to be such a is that true, Absolutely,
they are not going to be moving very much for
the next Well, so tonight is when there's the thing launches.
Tonight it meets up with the space station, I believe
tomorrow at some point, I don't know what the exact
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timeline is to get them in that return capsule and
back down to Earth.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I would like someone to make a movie about this
about the people that go up to space. They expect
to be there for eight days or there for eight months.
They run out of underwear, they don't feel their genitals.
They come back maybe gravity, yeah, but did they come back?
And then they sit down for a long time and
then they refeel their genitals and it's a whole thing.
And where do they go with the underwear moving forward?
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These are the things that I want to be dealt
with in a major emotion picture.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
A writer for the New York Times lived through Hurricane Sandy.
Let other people think about that nobody does about thirteen
years ago, and he said that his awakening to prepping,
like doomsday prepping, came after that massive storm hit New York.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I didn't know they have these, but they have these.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He went to a ten day survival intensive This happened
to be in Mexico. Consists of a series of skill
learning workshops all about how to survive the apocalypse. Here
is one of the tips. Remember the ABC's of survival.
What are the ABC's.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Always be crafting, always be, always be closing.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
A b C A always b b C closing, always
be closing, always be closing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Is that from like the Wolf of Wall Street or something.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Something like that. What is it that's Glengarry Glenn?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Okay, so similar.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, well that is not right in this case. When
it comes to survival, it's always be crafting. You forget
a thing like a spoon, which he did, you learn
how to make one. Always be crafting. It's like Maguiver,
you want to fix that transmission. Here's a ballpoint pen.
Make it happen. There's certain people that are good with
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this kind of thing. There's people that are good with
just thinking out of the box.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, like my brother.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Like if I had to survive the apocalypse, I would
use my brother. He would be the person that I
would bring with me on my apocalyptic journey because he
thinks differently and he could live off the land. I
think he could skin a raccoon and figure out a
way to eat it. Yeah, you I think have that
in you.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I could do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean I don't know how I'd kill the raccoon
in the first place, because they're wily little creatures. Yeah,
they're nasty. There are certain people if I hit it
with a car or somebody else hit it with a
car and softened up that meat a little bit, before
I got.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It, tendardized it with a car tire tenderdized.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Tenderized, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We'll talk about what this guy went through in this
ten day survival course down in Mexico, and what the
strange thing is the very first step has nothing to
do with survival.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We'll explain what that is when we come out.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Oh one quick thing before he.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Oh, hey, Gary and Shannon. I'm just taking my eighteen
year old daughter to college and we listened to you
guys in the car, and finally she was like, what
do they look like. I looked up Shannon and was like, okay, okay,
and I told her, you guys are Shennon's about the
same age as I am, early forties. But then she
(24:44):
looked up Gary. It was like, there's a cellist also
named Gary Hoffman, and then she had to look up
Gary KFI. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Do you remember said cellist? You remember Commander Bill up
in Sacramento. This was a long time excuse me, a
long time traffic traffic guy.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
He was the best.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Commander.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Bill was a legendary and Sacramento and flew a plane
for forty years or something like that. He used to
come into the radio station and would ask me, where's
your cello?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And for years I had no idea what he was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Oh wow, And when I when the that was before internet,
you know, before you would look up your own name
on the internet. Right, And a few years later, I'm
in Seattle and the internet comes out and Microsoft, whatever
their browser was, I looked it up and I remember
thinking just all falling into place, the dozens of times
that he would come in and ask me where my
(25:38):
cello was. And finally I was like, oh my gosh,
I need to call Commander Bill and find and say
to him I finally get what you said to me
all those years, you crazy old man.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
That's funny, though, You're right.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I mean, can you imagine a time when you couldn't
just google something?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
There was no internet.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So somebody coming in and saying that to you, you know,
there's got to be some sort of connection.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean the only other thing you would do is
go to the library and look through the card catalog
for your name.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, And even then, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I missed the card catalog. I like hunting for things
using the card catalog. There was a show recently that
involved a card catalog, and I thought I missed.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That this ten day crash course on surviving the apocalypse.
A rider for the New York Times did this ten
day crash course that takes place down in Mexico.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Apparently a third of all Americans say they spend some
part of their household budget on prepping for the end
of the world. Late last year, a book called a
Navy Seals bug In Guide was in heavy rotation on TikTok.
It offers tips on explaining away your ownership of large
(26:47):
quantities of canned goods. Here's one tip. You can just
say my wife slash husband got into couponing.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It is a situation.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Twenty million Americans identify as preppers. They are working on
self reliance. I was exposed to this recently when I
watched that documentary about the YouTuber family Ruby Frankie and
how towards the end of Crazy of the Trip on
the Crazy Train, she and her friend, who was also
a scammer, seemed to be very much into prepping for
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the end of the world.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Well, the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Guy who's doing this again, the writer for The New
York Times meets up with this guy who had grown
up in El Salvador, I believe it was, and the
crime ridden country eventually comes to the United States and
gets an art degree of all things and is now
leading these survival courses. And the very first thing he teaches,
he said, the most important lesson of survival is understanding
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your physiological and psychological response to threats. What happens when
your body is threatened, whether it's by a predator, by
the way weather, by conditions that you simply don't quite understand.
Your thoughts race, your heart pounds, your breathings r.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So I would assume it's acknowledge all that and don't
get freaked out by it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's just your body reacting. Acknowledge it, Yeah, figure out
why it's happening. What does your body know that you
don't about what's about to happen to you, or what
does it perceive is going to happen, and then basically
control yourself, like slap yourself in the face, slap it down,
snap out of it, excuse me, and then they he said.
One of the things to do is as you walk around,
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keep your bubble of awareness bigger than your bubble of disturbance.
So you talked about he said, you needn't have a spoon,
and he had to figure out how to get a spoon.
That's what you should be looking for, is keeping an
eye on everything that's around you and how you could
potentially use that, whether it's a tree that you could
climb up to escape something, whether it's a tree limb
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that's on the ground that you could use as a weapon,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know, it's interesting you say that, keep a you know,
focus on awareness, not disturbance within yourself. That's like a
pretty common tactic when it comes to calming yourself down
period in life. Stop worrying about all the voices in
the head what's going on, and live in the moment.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
To deal with what's right now.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
What do you see? What do you smell? That whole thing?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Al pacinos six inches in front of your face. That's
what you're going for, is that one inch that's right there.
He says, his philosophy is always to prioritize fire.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yes, fire is one of those things.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's why Tom Hanks screamed about he is a god
when he did it, for when he was stranded on
that island for the volleyball, yeah, Wilson right. The other
one is they talked about making a compass from a leaf,
a needle and a magnet. How to open a coconut
without tools, handlining, which is fishing by hand without a pole,
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but to find a string, a loose line, and a hook.
All of those things are what you would Here's the thing. Yeah,
if you're lost in the jungle, yes, these things are
going to happen. If you're lost on an island somewhere
in the Caribbean where the weather is not necessarily an issue,
you're okay. If you're in Alaska and you get separated
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from your fellow hunters or campers or whatever you're doing
out there, the time limit is very shrunk.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
The idea that you have.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Ten days to survive is not very realistic, and I
think that's kind of funny. But the other aspect of
this is the headline uses the word apocalypse. When you
think apocalypse, I think something along the lines of a
Morgan Freeman movie where an asteroid's about to hit the
Earth or all full global nuclear war.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Apocalypse is actually Greek. Do you want to know what
it means?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Please?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It means revelation or hidden knowledge. The Greek word is apocalypsis,
and it means revelation or hidden knowledge. Kind of makes
you think about the apocalypse differently.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We'll know then, right, will know then exactly what's going on?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Between hearing about duty underwear and genitals, I swear I'm
listening to the Bill Handle show.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Get it, You're right, I know. I put the genitals away.
We also got a text from Clay. He said Gary's back,
and so is Shannon's genital obsession.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'm putting it away.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you miss the first hour, you can always go
back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But I will say, in my defense, it has crossed
your mind when it comes to the astronauts with the underwear,
has it not.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
No, that's that's unique to me.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You don't assume that they have a supply of fresh
underpaid months worth.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Do you go eight months without washing your own?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
They don't have?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, but they only packed for eight.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Days, so you have eight pairs.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I see, Okay, I see what you're saying. All right,
I'm over it. Okay, So you just had to reason
with me? Man, Can I remind you of that at
least twice a day.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh, you had to do. It's reason with me and
I'd come down off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
My apocalyptic dirty underpron can have saved us all of this.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Gary Shannon, We'll continue right after this. You've been listening
to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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It is Wednesday, March twelfth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tariff Tuesday has turned into Wild Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Ooh, I like the branding.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The roller coaster tariff issues that we've been sealing. Saw
the President threaten to double duties on Canadian steel and
aluminum to fifty percent. Ontario said that they're going to
place a surcharge on electricity.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
They took that off. Trump took twenty five percent off.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But the European Union is now talking about leveling tariffs
on billions of dollars worth of products like bourbon and
motorcycles and stuff like that from the United States that
goes to Europe.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So I would say new day, new details, but it's
like new hour, new details when it comes to the
tariffs and everyone's reaction to it, whether it is Washington,
Wall Street or other countries. So we'll stay on top
of that Department of Education being gutted. It looks like
they're going to cut about half of it. I was
a little bit surprised at how small, in my opinion,
(01:09):
the Department of Education is.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's only
about four thousand or plus employees. Yeah, I thought it
would have been into the ten thousand ish, but yeah,
about four thou I think they said four thy one
hundred positions existed in the Department of Education the day
that Trump was inaugurated, and that about sixteen hundred if
not more, of those would be cut along with the
(01:32):
education employees who had already taken the advanced retirement or
had been you know, let go for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So more importantly, we have a local national nightmare to address.
Do we have any local national nightmare music?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
How about an LA band talking about the national nightmare
that exists?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Okay, so would this be? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I am ashamed of you and I shall not make
eye contact with you for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What do you mean? Who is this?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Is this not? Is this not from my generation?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You could argue that it's not from your generation. But
if you don't know this song, I'm machined Writers on
the Storm. It is Writers on the Storm by.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
The guy who is really high all the time?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right, But he was in a band dead now he's dead,
dead dead.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He was in a band with Raymond Zeric.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think he peed on a crowd at one point,
keep going and may have electrocuted himself with the uriner separate,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Played by Val Kilmer, right in the.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Movie Morrison, Jim Morrison, Jim.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Morrison, and he's buried in France. And what do I
know so much? The name of the band is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The Jim Morrison. Sorry, I'm having a brain fog. It's
I have seasonal effective.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Disorder, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Katla's Casey Montoya joins us. She is not just a meteorologist,
not that it's just a meteorologist. That is a lot
of education that you and I could not pomplished. Probably,
not to be rude to you, I'm sure you could
if you put your mind to it, but you haven't.
But Casey is a reporter. She's a journalist. She's fantastic,
she's award winning. And she joins us now because we
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love Kate's La and we love Casey, and she was
kind enough to make some time for us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Casey, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I'm great. I've been thoroughly entertained listening to you guys.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Casey, do you know the name of the band The Okay,
the Doors?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know it's because it's my boyfriend's favorite band. And
if I don't know that, I would die, like he
would probably kill me.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, really love that.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
She did you tell Gary how we kind of met electronically?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I did, and he was kind of creepy about it,
to the point where I didn't know if I wanted
to have you on the show because he was like
she did, she she she listens to the show, and
like she did. But you don't even need to calm
it down before we get her on. I don't want
you to embarrass me, is what I think.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I said, Wait, Gary, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was great, It was very positive. It was just
a nice surprise that people listen to the show I do.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
The crazy thing is so I lived in West Hollywood,
like so close to work for years, and I moved
to the South Bay last summer, so now I had
a commute and I've been listening to you guys for
like since August, and I never because I'm driving, I
never take the time to think like, oh, I should
look up and see you know, what they look like,
and then just randomly, you guys pop up in my
feet and I was like, oh my god, Shannon's hot,
(04:31):
and so I started messaging her and I was like,
it just makes sense why she knows about football now,
and like our world's colliding, and so you probably think
I'm weird, but that's how it happened.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Not at all weird, And all the weirdness is on
our side of the table. Okay, So who is Henry?
I don't even know who Henry is anymore? Henry who
I don't even know?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Placco right.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The best? So, Casey, what's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Going on with this storm? How long are we going
to be living in this long local nightmare?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So what's really concerning is tonight. And you know what's
so frustrating is that people watch the news and it's
almost like they put mute when I'm on because I
get asked every day, like a dozen times, when's the
rain coming. I'm like, did you watch the news?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, I saw you, but no one pays attention. So tonight, well,
I can't say no one. A lot of people starting tonight,
like La County is going to start getting really heavy
rains first, like maybe around midnight, possibly Ventura County a
little sooner. We're getting like a direct hit from an
atmospheric river, you know, the buzzword of the century, and
it's going to bring a lot of moisture overnight into
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early Thursday morning. And what's so concerning is that this
is going to be so heavy. If we get rainfall
rates of three quarters of an echine hour, that's likely
to produce flooding, not just for burnscar areas, but for
you know, urban areas. So we think that that's likely
going to happen in several spots. And look, the good
news about this happening overnight is that we're not on
the roads driving around like we would be at five pm.
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But it's it's probably going to cost them. The winds
associated with it are likely going to cause some downtrees,
maybe down power lines, and then things will start to
lighten up by nine o'clock tomorrow morning. But then there's
still a chance of seeing possibly heavy showers Thursday throughout
the day, but nothing like what we're going to get overnight.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We when we hit into the beginning of January, we
started the year obviously the fires in Palisades in Altadena,
there was a concern that we had what four tenths
of an inch of rain throughout the entire season. We've
made some good inroads on that, but where do we
stand in terms of average rainfall so far?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I was just looking that up, like it's different
for certain areas, but we're still several inches below where
we should be. And you know, normally like northern California
would be getting a lot of these storms. They're not
getting any of this storm. So we like them to
get rain because then we get snow on the mountains,
which helps as well. But even though it feels like
it's been raining so much lately, we're still several inches
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below where we should be for this time of year.
And even with this series of storms right now, we're
probably not going to cat.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Kacey Montoya kt LA catch her every midday.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I feel like the people in Majesica.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Canyon, they're in Orange County, they just have to have
like a constant evacuation bag at the front door. I
feel like every time it rains, we're talking about them
possibly being evacuated. And that's going back like five hundred years.
It seems like they always get the reins. Maybe some
of the burn areas, but that they're always under this
evacuation warning.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And those those are terrifying to be under. But look
what we've learned. You know a lot of people have
told me personally, you know, I never used to evacuate
when I got a warning, and now they're evacuating before
the warnings, like ahead of the storm. I know several
people who went to go stay in a hotel. So
people are starting to listen. We wish more people would
have listened before the fires, if I'm being honest, But
(07:50):
you know, we we're here to do a service to
tell people what's what's coming. So you know how to prepare,
because I always say, even on TV, just prepare for
the worst and expect the best.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Excellent stuff. Casey, thanks for taking time for us.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Today, big fan. So I'll hee you guys on the
radio as I get in the car here in a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We'll talk again. If especially if this storm gets any
we should have her over here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We should have her here and hang out with us
for like an hour or something that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
We'll have a lot of clean up and stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
To make it presentable.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Not me, I'm just saying the room.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know, No, I know the whole thing, right, It
starts with you. It starts with you, Casey, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Thank you bye for your patience.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Hey, it's not from my generation either, but it's Jim
and the Morris.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh, somebody's at the door.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I gotta go Frank some cokeson please?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
All right, Crazy tariff Tuesday turns into wacky Wednesday, and
we have no idea what Wall Street's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Live everywhere on the iHeart raid.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is there anybody of any interest?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't think so. I mean there's there's people around,
but I don't know if there's a if it has
tickled any of the you know, bring parts, I don't know.
First of two storms to SoCal is gone. The next
one rolls in tonight, as we saw with our friend Casey,
a new friend, Casey Montoya from KTLA, just talking about
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about one to two inches of rain along the coast,
maybe ups as much as four inches in the valleys.
And if it does get that, if we're on that
end of it, it's going to cause some localized flooding problems.
There is a court date today for Mahmud Khalil. He
is the Columbia University grad student or graduate who was
(09:46):
picked up over the weekend. His green card was revoked.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, even as a green
card holder, you should not be able to engage in
activities that would form a legal basis to exclude you
from entering the kind of in the first place. And
he was accused of fomenting and leading some of those
pro Palestinian protests there at Columbia University. He's actually got
(10:09):
a court hearing today, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, Well, we have some reaction to the tariffs. The
European Union today announcing retaliatory trade action with new duties
on US industrial and farm products.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
This is a response, are you going to laugh every
time I say duty?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Do you laugh every time you're in the airport and
you walk by the duty free store? Do you say,
as you're walking by, it ain't duty free? Right now,
I'm I'm about to go make a duty myself. Do
you do that tax?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Get it all out of your system?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Anyway, This is a response within hours to the Trump's
increase in tariffs on steel and aluminum imports to twenty
five percent. We are talking about goods from the US
worth around twenty six billion euros. Not just steel and aluminum,
(11:09):
but textiles, home impliances, ad goods, motorcycles, bourbon, peanut, butter,
and jeans will also be hit.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The French are very concerned about the cosmetics industry. They
said that France imports about two hundred million euros a
little more than two hundred million dollars worth of American
makeup every year, but ex sports about ten times that
amount in the other direction. The head of the cosmetics
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industry association in France says, we are entering a trade
war that we do not want to be a part of.
I think you're going to see that kind of sentiment
in a lot of different industries. France and Spain and
Italy have all requested that European Commission exclude wine and
spirits from the.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
List of US goods that are targeted with tariffs.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So they're trying to carve out sort of things that
would be safer for them these individual individual I don't
know portions of industry. Now this is not being received well.
Wall Street. We've seen over the last couple of days
in negative territory. This morning that now actually started in
(12:24):
positive territory because we got actually we got some good
news that inflation had slowed.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
In February.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
The Consumer Price Index measures price increases around the most
commonly purchased goods, showed about a two point eight percent
rise in overall prices in the economy, slowing down compared
to what we saw in January.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So that's good. That caused things to go positive.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But then you turn the corner and you realize that
we don't know how the day is going to end
when it comes to these tariff things. C NBC Steve
Leisman said, this is insanity.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Everyone's trying to add this up to say the math
doesn't make sense here to have all of these things
happening at the same time.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
I'm going to say this at risk of my job, Kelly,
but what President Trump is doing is insane. It is
absolutely insane. It is about the eighth reason we've had
for the tariffs. And now he's saying he's putting fifty
percent tariffs on Canada unless they agree to become the
fifty first state.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Now again, that fifty percent was brought back to twenty
five percent.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It seems like the president has an endgame where he
does want the best for America in the long run,
in terms of why aren't we making this stuff here?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why aren't we looking out for us? Number One?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He told CEOs in that business roundtable yesterday that we
talked about that the tariffs are causing companies to invest
in US factories. The problem that some are arguing with
that is that it costs more, obviously to make things
here as opposed to importing it from other countries. The
eight percent drop and the S and P five hundred
(13:57):
stock index over the past month on fears of deteriorating
growth that did not dissuade him at all. He argued
yesterday that higher tariff rates would be more effective at
bringing back factories to the US. Here's the quote from
the Trump himself. He said, the higher it goes, the
more likely it is they're going to build. The biggest
(14:20):
win is if they move into our country and produce jobs.
He says, that's a bigger win than the tariffs themselves.
But the tariffs are going to be throwing off a
lot of money to this country, I mean, and that's
a long endgame. That's an endgame when he has left office.
That's an endgame, when the damage has been done, the
detritus is on the floor, and everyone hates Trump for
(14:43):
a number of years till you And that's assuming that
other administrations will follow suits exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And there's no guarantee, I mean, just based on our
political system, there's no guarantee that even a Republican president
that would be elected in twenty twenty eight would continue
the same policy.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And it's interesting to me because Trump hates to be unpopular.
I mean, you saw it when he addressed Congress. You
can tell it bothers him that half of those chambers
did not stand for him, did not clap for him,
did not do anything, did not even give him the
time of day.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You could tell it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It sticks in his craw that people don't like him,
even if they are Democrats, even if they are the
people that think he is the monster. So the fact
that he would be doing something that is going to
be widely unpopular once the dust settles is odd to me.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There is something We've mentioned this multiple times in the
last couple of days. The Wall Street thrives on known outcomes.
It thrives on consistency, and when it's volatile like this,
that's when it's most dangerous for people who are in
the stock market. They call this the Cebo Volatility Index,
(15:56):
known as the VICS, is what they refer to as
the fear game, and they said it has surged over
sixty percent so far this year to trade above twenty
seven point three earlier this week. They said it's a
statistically unusual level. And if we continue at this pace,
if we continue with all of this volatility, it erodes
the confidence that people have in stocks, and that's not.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Good for in the long term.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You shouldn't say.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's not good for everybody, because not everybody's in the
stock market, But if you've got a four oh one K,
you're in it. If you have these other investments, you're
in it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Potentially bad and bless your heart if you and I
don't mean to be condescending, I mean truly bless your
heart if you're one of the people that checks your
four oh one K all the time, because that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Thing, you can't live or die with a day to
day on the four oh one k.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's too much. It's like it's It's like gambling. You
got to know you're not going to win that big
first hand right away. You got to play for a
long time and somebody had a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Why, Like, somebody's got a little bit of an addiction
they're working through.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Even then, the numbers are always in the house's favor.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
The longer you play, the less likely you are.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
To have one chance that I checked that for one case, there's.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Just one chance that I hit that number. Thirty two
on roulette.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what I always bet on. How did you know that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I've been there with you? Oh, I didn't know. That's
a wild guest.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, really that's my number, Like, that's my number,
and I don't just bet one. I bet like five
thirty two. Why thirty two? There's so many reasons, so
many okay, so little time.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Uh, would you survive the apocalypse? Would I.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Ow?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I like, how long after the.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
World would you survive the apocalypse? Did you give it
a day?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I find it interesting that there's so many shows, and
it's not just a recent thing a trend. How many
shows throughout the generations are centered around the apocalypse. Were
obviously extremely interested in the end of the world and
what it means and how we'll react. So there is
a new guide on how to survive the apocalypse at
least for ten days.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It is Wednesday, so late in the show, we'll be
doing what you're watching Wednesday. Let us know what it
is that you have been following up on. We have
some great trailers that are coming up. We're going to
post those up as well. Hacks season four, in fact,
is coming up next month already, so we'll talk about
stuff that's on television. Let you know what we've been
watching as well the stories that we're following. An American
(18:39):
wrestler has been named a person of interest in the
disappearance of that pit student at the Dominican Republic. A
twenty four year old guy named Joshua Ribby being investigated
by a sheriff's office in Virginia after twenty year old
Sudiska Konaki vanished at the beginning of the month during
a break in Punta Kana. Now, he is reportedly being
(19:00):
cooperative with authorities. According to the Dominican authorities. He's not
considered a suspect, just one of the guys that was
last seen with Sudiksha before she disappeared. Dominican authorities apparently
have taken his passport. However, according to a couple of
different sources, that doesn't mean that he's not free to leave.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
He can pick it up any time he wants, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Also space news is that this afternoon a launch expected
from Cape Canaveral, where the Boeing Boeing spacecraft that crapped
out a new one is supposed to be headed up
to the International Space Station to go pick up Sonny
(19:43):
Williams and Butcher Wilmore.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I of suddenly am just overwhelmed with a smell. How's
the shower going, Well, it's just that they've had the
same underwear.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh, you're having a sensory, you're having a sympathetic one.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm thinking about what it smells inside that capsule on
the way home again.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think you're overestimating the amount of underpant that they have.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I think they're just they're done.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, you're right. Wow, do you think they ever wear
underwear again?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Why?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I mean they would did without for so long? Why
even go through the rigamarole of underwear anymore for the
rest of your days.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well, for him, he's still got stuff that hangs, and
you don't want the gravitational pull once you get back
to Earth.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Could probably be I wonder how that works.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So like you just don't feel your genitals, Like, he
doesn't need underwear in space, right because they just kind
of like.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What are you doing with your hands?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, they just float up here right like.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I suppose I've never been.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's going to be quite a a re entry. Yeah,
if you haven't felt your genitals like that, that's why
he's got a sill.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Weight of your genitals. You haven't felt them for months.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They both have to sit down for a week basically.
But when they get home home to Earth because the
gravitational poll is going to be such a is that true, Absolutely,
they are not going to be moving very much for
the next Well, so tonight is when there's the thing launches.
Tonight it meets up with the space station, I believe
tomorrow at some point, I don't know what the exact
(21:13):
timeline is to get them in that return capsule and
back down to Earth.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I would like someone to make a movie about this
about the people that go up to space. They expect
to be there for eight days or there for eight months.
They run out of underwear, they don't feel their genitals.
They come back maybe gravity, yeah, but did they come back?
And then they sit down for a long time and
then they refeel their genitals and it's a whole thing.
And where do they go with the underwear moving forward?
(21:40):
These are the things that I want to be dealt
with in a major emotion picture.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
A writer for the New York Times lived through Hurricane Sandy.
Let other people think about that nobody does about thirteen
years ago, and he said that his awakening to prepping,
like doomsday prepping, came after that massive storm hit New York.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I didn't know they have these, but they have these.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He went to a ten day survival intensive This happened
to be in Mexico. Consists of a series of skill
learning workshops all about how to survive the apocalypse. Here
is one of the tips. Remember the ABC's of survival.
What are the ABC's.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Always be crafting, always be, always be closing.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
A b C A always b b C closing, always
be closing, always be closing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Is that from like the Wolf of Wall Street or something.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Something like that. What is it that's Glengarry Glenn?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Okay, so similar.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, well that is not right in this case. When
it comes to survival, it's always be crafting. You forget
a thing like a spoon, which he did, you learn
how to make one. Always be crafting. It's like Maguiver,
you want to fix that transmission. Here's a ballpoint pen.
Make it happen. There's certain people that are good with
(23:14):
this kind of thing. There's people that are good with
just thinking out of the box.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, like my brother.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Like if I had to survive the apocalypse, I would
use my brother. He would be the person that I
would bring with me on my apocalyptic journey because he
thinks differently and he could live off the land. I
think he could skin a raccoon and figure out a
way to eat it. Yeah, you I think have that
in you.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I could do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean I don't know how I'd kill the raccoon
in the first place, because they're wily little creatures. Yeah,
they're nasty. There are certain people if I hit it
with a car or somebody else hit it with a
car and softened up that meat a little bit, before
I got.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It, tendardized it with a car tire tenderdized.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Tenderized, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We'll talk about what this guy went through in this
ten day survival course down in Mexico, and what the
strange thing is the very first step has nothing to
do with survival.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
We'll explain what that is when we come out.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Oh one quick thing before he.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
Oh, hey, Gary and Shannon. I'm just taking my eighteen
year old daughter to college and we listened to you
guys in the car, and finally she was like, what
do they look like. I looked up Shannon and was like, okay, okay,
and I told her, you guys are Shennon's about the
same age as I am, early forties. But then she
(24:44):
looked up Gary. It was like, there's a cellist also
named Gary Hoffman, and then she had to look up
Gary KFI. I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Do you remember said cellist? You remember Commander Bill up
in Sacramento. This was a long time excuse me, a
long time traffic traffic guy.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
He was the best.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Commander.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Bill was a legendary and Sacramento and flew a plane
for forty years or something like that. He used to
come into the radio station and would ask me, where's
your cello?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And for years I had no idea what he was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Oh wow, And when I when the that was before internet,
you know, before you would look up your own name
on the internet. Right, And a few years later, I'm
in Seattle and the internet comes out and Microsoft, whatever
their browser was, I looked it up and I remember
thinking just all falling into place, the dozens of times
that he would come in and ask me where my
(25:38):
cello was. And finally I was like, oh my gosh,
I need to call Commander Bill and find and say
to him I finally get what you said to me
all those years, you crazy old man.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
That's funny, though, You're right.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I mean, can you imagine a time when you couldn't
just google something?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
There was no internet.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So somebody coming in and saying that to you, you know,
there's got to be some sort of connection.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean the only other thing you would do is
go to the library and look through the card catalog
for your name.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, And even then, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I missed the card catalog. I like hunting for things
using the card catalog. There was a show recently that
involved a card catalog, and I thought I missed.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That this ten day crash course on surviving the apocalypse.
A rider for the New York Times did this ten
day crash course that takes place down in Mexico.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Apparently a third of all Americans say they spend some
part of their household budget on prepping for the end
of the world. Late last year, a book called a
Navy Seals bug In Guide was in heavy rotation on TikTok.
It offers tips on explaining away your ownership of large
(26:47):
quantities of canned goods. Here's one tip. You can just
say my wife slash husband got into couponing.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It is a situation.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Twenty million Americans identify as preppers. They are working on
self reliance. I was exposed to this recently when I
watched that documentary about the YouTuber family Ruby Frankie and
how towards the end of Crazy of the Trip on
the Crazy Train, she and her friend, who was also
a scammer, seemed to be very much into prepping for
(27:21):
the end of the world.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Well, the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Guy who's doing this again, the writer for The New
York Times meets up with this guy who had grown
up in El Salvador, I believe it was, and the
crime ridden country eventually comes to the United States and
gets an art degree of all things and is now
leading these survival courses. And the very first thing he teaches,
he said, the most important lesson of survival is understanding
(27:50):
your physiological and psychological response to threats. What happens when
your body is threatened, whether it's by a predator, by
the way weather, by conditions that you simply don't quite understand.
Your thoughts race, your heart pounds, your breathings r.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So I would assume it's acknowledge all that and don't
get freaked out by it.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's just your body reacting. Acknowledge it, Yeah, figure out
why it's happening. What does your body know that you
don't about what's about to happen to you, or what
does it perceive is going to happen, and then basically
control yourself, like slap yourself in the face, slap it down,
snap out of it, excuse me, and then they he said.
One of the things to do is as you walk around,
(28:31):
keep your bubble of awareness bigger than your bubble of disturbance.
So you talked about he said, you needn't have a spoon,
and he had to figure out how to get a spoon.
That's what you should be looking for, is keeping an
eye on everything that's around you and how you could
potentially use that, whether it's a tree that you could
climb up to escape something, whether it's a tree limb
(28:52):
that's on the ground that you could use as a weapon,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know, it's interesting you say that, keep a you know,
focus on awareness, not disturbance within yourself. That's like a
pretty common tactic when it comes to calming yourself down
period in life. Stop worrying about all the voices in
the head what's going on, and live in the moment.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
To deal with what's right now.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
What do you see? What do you smell? That whole thing?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Al pacinos six inches in front of your face. That's
what you're going for, is that one inch that's right there.
He says, his philosophy is always to prioritize fire.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yes, fire is one of those things.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's why Tom Hanks screamed about he is a god
when he did it, for when he was stranded on
that island for the volleyball, yeah, Wilson right. The other
one is they talked about making a compass from a leaf,
a needle and a magnet. How to open a coconut
without tools, handlining, which is fishing by hand without a pole,
(29:48):
but to find a string, a loose line, and a hook.
All of those things are what you would Here's the thing. Yeah,
if you're lost in the jungle, yes, these things are
going to happen. If you're lost on an island somewhere
in the Caribbean where the weather is not necessarily an issue,
you're okay. If you're in Alaska and you get separated
(30:09):
from your fellow hunters or campers or whatever you're doing
out there, the time limit is very shrunk.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
The idea that you have.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Ten days to survive is not very realistic, and I
think that's kind of funny. But the other aspect of
this is the headline uses the word apocalypse. When you
think apocalypse, I think something along the lines of a
Morgan Freeman movie where an asteroid's about to hit the
Earth or all full global nuclear war.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Apocalypse is actually Greek. Do you want to know what
it means?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Please?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It means revelation or hidden knowledge. The Greek word is apocalypsis,
and it means revelation or hidden knowledge. Kind of makes
you think about the apocalypse differently.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We'll know then, right, will know then exactly what's going on?
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Between hearing about duty underwear and genitals, I swear I'm
listening to the Bill Handle show.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Get it, You're right, I know. I put the genitals away.
We also got a text from Clay. He said Gary's back,
and so is Shannon's genital obsession.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I'm putting it away.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you miss the first hour, you can always go
back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But I will say, in my defense, it has crossed
your mind when it comes to the astronauts with the underwear,
has it not.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
No, that's that's unique to me.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You don't assume that they have a supply of fresh
underpaid months worth.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Do you go eight months without washing your own?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
They don't have?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, but they only packed for eight.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Days, so you have eight pairs.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I see, Okay, I see what you're saying. All right,
I'm over it. Okay, So you just had to reason
with me? Man, Can I remind you of that at
least twice a day.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh, you had to do. It's reason with me and
I'd come down off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
My apocalyptic dirty underpron can have saved us all of this.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Gary Shannon, We'll continue right after this. You've been listening
to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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