April 7, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is kind of funny
watching a team go to the White House. They don't
have to tell us what their political affiliations are. You
can just sense it when they're standing there. Yeah, I
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mean you see it. You see it with every president,
with every team, every administration. Usually there's like the you
can tell that the people that are super proud to
be there, the people that are super proud to be
there for this president, the people that don't really want
to be there, the drunk people.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Like it's super.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Obvious when the sports teams that win the national whatever
go take a trip to the White House. Today it
was the Dodgers turn with President Trump, and it was
Clayton Kershaw who.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Got the honor, privilege, whatever word you want to call it,
of presenting President Trump with the number forty seven jeroch
Oh and he loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Like Clayton loved it. You could tell Mookie's not so much.
It's pretty quiet, pretty quiet, still.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Still recovering from his illness.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Or what Trump said, The Dodgers show a spirit that's
not often seen on other teams. He said, based on
what he's seen the season, the team can plan on returning.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To the White House next year. Yeah. Seriously. Nine and
two start to go for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, so your second place Dodgers will be playing in
Washington today. That's why they're in DC in the first place.
They'll be taken on the Nationals. They lost yesterday in
the up and down game against the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I knew the Phillies were going to snap the street gone?
Was that Friday? Yeah, Yeah, I just had a feeling.
I mean, that's what Philadelphia does. You know, They just
they crap on you, you know, whole city.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Listen, there's been already, in a couple of hours of
trading on Wall Street, a couple of big things that
have gone on. One of them was real, one of
them was not, and then another one that's a threat
to be real. Means that we've seen another sell off
on Wall Street. The now Jones and Industrial Average as
of right now is down about eight hundred points, so
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the S and P five hundred the Nasdaq are also
down about a percent and a half. All three of
those indices had shown major You know, four or five
percent losses at the very beginning of trading, and then
because we're talking about terras and we're talking about what
was imposed last week, the weekend that everybody got nervous about,
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and then the selloff that was expected because we sow
it in European markets earlier today as well as Asian markets.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Kind of knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Saw it coming last week because it was like, how
long is a president going to be able to take
this beating on Wall Street?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know, he takes it personally.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know that it's a sign of Wall Street and
investors not having trust in his plan, and he just
he's just not built to withstand that kind of thing.
So it was kind of a thought last week of
all right, so what is he going to say to
calm everyone down? Well, somebody got on the phone somewhere
because it went from the Dow went from down something
like fifteen h hundred.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
To down one hundred and ninety minutes or something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like that, because word got to Wall Street that there
would be a pause in these tariffs. We saw it
with Canada and Mexico. What was that two months ago?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
A month ago and here's here's what added fuel to
that fire. White House Economic Advisor Kevin Hassett, one of
the guys that's been making the rounds and trying to
explain these tariffs and why they would be good for
the United States. He was on Fox this morning and
you can hear almost a throwaway question, or not not
a throw away question, a throwaway response to the question
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of a ninety day pause that some people took as Oh, yes,
there will be ninety day paus.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Will you do a ninety day pausing? Which you consider that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Or built yeah, you know, I think that the president is.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Okay, so he says yeah, I mean right after. But
it wasn't a response to the question.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's one of those tick verbal tick things that people
do when they're trying to respond to the question, just
to go give it a little bit more context, or
bilt yeah, you know, I think that the president is
going to decide what the President's going to decide.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
There are more.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Than fifty countries in negotiation with the president. We've got
the Prime Minister of Israel coming today.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
We've had to reach.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Out overnight from Taiwan.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
But I would urge everyone, especially Bill, to.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
He's up the rhetoric a little bit, okay, So he
goes on to say whatever he does, he the president,
that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
He wasn't there commenting on this ninety day pause.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like you said, the markets are looking for anything
to grab on to to try to claw back some
of their losses. So down sixteen hundred within the first
few minutes of trading, and then it goes back and
almost I mean it does peek into positive territory for
a few minutes. And then the latest is that Trump
is talking about the potential for another fifty percent tariff
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on Chinese goods if they don't end It's this is
this is the weirdest economically speaking, the weirdest few days
I think we've seen in several decades.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, and we saw it coming, but it doesn't make
it any easier to talk about or to get through.
I want to spend a little bit more time on
what you just said, because I think it's key Trump
saying he's going to raise tariffs on China by another
fifty percent if the country doesn't get rid of the
retaliatory tariffs on US goods. That was something that came
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down Friday morning, well, Friday night for China, but for
us Friday morning, when China's like, eh, oh f us
no fu. And so what does that mean? Because while
he's talking on one hand about pausing tariffs, he on
the other hand, he's talking about doubling down with China.
And I got to believe that the China tariffs, when
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it comes to things costing us more, are going to
be much more. Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know how much more harmful or hurtful those
will be as opposed to the other tariffs in place
that he's thinking about pausing.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And as we saw Kevin Hasset say, and we talked
about it last week, that the point of this, the
point of imposing tariffs at all, was to drive those
other countries to the negotiating table, right, and they.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Have come, according to Trump and his team, other countries
have picked up the phone.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They've come to the table to be like, Okay, let's
work this out right, whereas China has not. China is
standing firm.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And so that's why he's hitting back with this crazy
ass number of fifty percent more. I don't know if
that's the way you play with China, I don't know.
I've never played with China.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And if one of his goals is to then isolate
China so much out of them of the international market,
US being their biggest customer, maybe there is some success
to that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I understand the guy's brain because he, as Kevin Hassett
referred to it, Trump's the one making the decisions, and
it doesn't sound like he's taken a lot of guidance
from anybody in the economic team. He's the one who's
making the final decision. He's the president. He can do that.
But when you look at the different reasonings that have
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been given by each of these economic advisors, whether it's
the Secretary of Treasury, you've got Pete Navarro, one of
the White House economic advisors, they all kind of have
slightly different reasons for what the President is doing because
the President himself apparently hasn't been clear in those meetings, like, guys,
here's what we're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, remember when we had the engineers in this room
and they were kind of building it up. We had
moved studios, and they said what do you want and
we said, oh, we'd like stand up desks and if
we could have this and if this board could be
over here, and they just looked at us and they're.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Like, I don't know, I want you to pump the
brakes on all that. Maybe too much.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Maybe that's what I feel like his economic advisors are doing.
You don't get to be a White House economic advisor
by saying.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Hell yeah, let's blow us up, let's go crazy trifs,
hell yeah, fifty percent more.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Let's go That's not what gets you to that point
in your career as an economic advisor. Like the guys
that play fast and loose with this kind of stuff,
they don't reach that echelon of advising the president of
the United States. You know, That's why it's fun and
headline making to bring in someone like Elon Musk to
shake things up.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's done in business, is done in the private sector.
It's usually not done in government, and definitely not done
with Wall Street.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So coming up, we'll talk more about this.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
There is one segment of the economy, well two smaller
segments of the economy that are absolutely on fire right
now in a good way. But also what the President
is saying to you, the American people, about what this
is going to look like.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Over the next couple of days, you're.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Forty husband and I, I'm sorry, what a slow fall?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You ever see an old person fall?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Do you notice that it's oftentimes a slow falk?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yah?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, So I've reached that point in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was walking with my husband on the sidewalk and
I was in flip flops.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's not an excuse.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I stepped on what appeared to be maybe like the
lip of the sidewalk kind of going into like a
planter area, and and I thought, oh, I'm tripping, And
then I thought.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You had the presence of mind.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think I'm going down, and then I'm thinking I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Falling now, And I mean it was like and then
I'm lying there and there's like a dad and his
toddler who's in like one of those wheely cart things,
and there are a couple steps that had and I'm like,
oh my god. And it was one of those things
where they don't even say anything because they're so embarrassed,
Like he's so embarrassed, and I'm like, oh, and.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Then did I pop back up? No, Like it took
me a while because I'm a little sore.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And so it was like a slow rise to get
back up, and no one wanted to admit what happened
what they saw because it was that embarrassing. Kept walking
and I said to him, I go, oh, it was
a slow fall, wasn't it. He's like, yeah, yeah, it
was anyway, and I have this I did.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I was going to ask you where that came from.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You got a flaceration, but I survived it. But yeah,
it was a slow fall. It was very slow and
very embarrassing. And I've reached that point.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So see here we.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Are in a hospital. They'd give you a bracelet that
says you're a fall. I made that joke yesterday. So
maybe maybe get maybe your husband gets you one with
like diamonds on it or something.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, I have this aversion to the Apple Watch. I
don't want it. I understand how great it is. I
know it's magical for everyone and everyone who has it
as an advocate of it, I don't want an Apple Watch.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I like watches, I don't I just don't want that
much inform.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't want it. I don't want it. But it
does have that life alert capability. To where if you
fall like it will, it'll say like, hey, do you
need me to call someone?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Or it's a life alert.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Right, It's like it's a commercial you saw at your
grandparents house when you're at home sick, you know, eating
Flintstone's vitamins and jello out of a cop.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I've fallen and I can't get up.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, And there she is. She's in that kitchen. It
looks kind of nice, looks like a nice life.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But there she is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And then she's got the bracelet and the little the
little thing that Ev had.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That that alerts people.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And uh, it would have been funny if your husband
was walking with you you fell and then he gets
an alert that says, Shannon must have just fallen.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I should check on her. Yeah so but I.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, well, welcome back from your your fall.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You went to Texas?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I did it was you want to move there? It
was really great. You have the conversation we do every time. Yeah,
that's the thing is. And I did go by the
radio station in Wake just to see where it was.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To they have capabilities to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Barely looks like it would survive a tornado.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, you won't have to live in Waco. You could
live in a bigger hub.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, you know, but it was beautiful and it's green
right now, so everything is like the drive is great.
We were on the right on the southern tip of
like all the storms that have been going through, so
it was cloudy and it did rain on Saturday and
some thunder and stuff like that, but it was just
it was super nice and it was great because the
town Waco itself is a cool little town. It's got
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a bunch of little The place that we stayed was
a house that was built in nineteen oh eight and
had been refurbished.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It was a really cool place.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And then we got to meet a bunch of the
people that our daughter works with in this research lab.
So it was a funny kind of putting the personalities
together after hearing her stories about people. Yeah, so't some
of those blank spots. That's very cool that you that
you went out to visit her. That means a lot
to her. I know it would.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, there are the people like me who go anywhere
and like I could live here, I want to live here,
Like I could pretty much anywhere, but Cincinnati. I think
that's the only place I've been where I'm like, absolutely not.
But like I romanticize things like visit travel or whatever.
I could go anywhere. I drive freaking up the ninety
nine and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh, I could live here.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
This is a nice yeah. Selma like, oh, there's a
barn over there. I could live here. But I totally
have that impulse. Sometimes you are not that person, so
I can tell, like when you like love a place
and you're thinking seriously about it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And then yesterday we had some time to kill as
we made our way back to Dallas, so we went
to the fort Worth Stockyards. You ever been me, no
little tourist thing, and they run they run a cattle
drive through there twice a day. We didn't stick around
for that, but it was a cool little yeah. I mean,
like the history of what fort Worth used to be, right.
And then driving from fort Worth into Dallas, you go
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past Globe Life stated the ball park, and then the
football stadium and there's a six flag. We went to
Dealey Plaza where JFK was shot. You got to add
the context. I've seen this thing so many times in
so many different versions to actually drive that little loop there.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Did you play around on the grassy knoll?
Speaker 6 (14:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But that's the other part about it that doesn't there's
little guys out there with their stands and their.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Little conspiracy theory books.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Totally yes, and they're and they're walking up down. The
whole little section is kind of coned off. There's a
the museum that's right there this I think they call
it the sixth Floor Museum or whatever. But it was
it was great to see the grassy knoll and go.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's not as big as I thought.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No, I know, it's small, the whole section, the whole
whole area.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I know, I know the.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Library, like that's the craziest it was.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I bet they have a resurgence all the conspiracy people lately,
because wasn't it recently that was it JFK.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Junior that was supposed to come back from.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The dead Daily Plaza, So I bet that that was
another resurgence for them when all those people descended waiting
to see JFK. Junior come back from the dead, Like Jesus,
I don't know, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
There was there were a lot of people there.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I mean, there's several dozen people just kind of standing
on that sidewalk right And like I said, it was
coned off so that people didn't come into traffic because
it's still it's a working street. I mean, they don't
block it off or anything. And then to drive on
that exact road and go under that overpass and get
onto the freeway because you go right past Parkland Memorial
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Hospital where they took him after the shooting, and then
love Field is just beyond that where we flew in
and out of.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So it was it was a really cool. It was
a fun afternoon. It was cold.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
It was it was cold, like never got above maybe
forty six degrees yesterday.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That that is too cold for what I was expecting.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Or then I came to Texas, so if I'm ready
for it, yeah, but then that's the thing is so yeah,
yesterday's high temperature in Waco is fifty. It's going to
be eighty eight degrees there tomorrow. I mean it's just
the wild swings like that are not something I'm used
to because I'm California.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Week.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If I go through another slow fall, don't take me
to Parkland. I don't do well there.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I wanted to point out that there are there are
a couple of places. There's one area that is really
seeing a lot of growth right now. Yeah, despite all
of this, and that happens to be the oil industry
and an oil industry in that gas prices for US
consumers are going down.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There are true oils the lowest it's been in the years.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What is it like, sixty bucks a barrel?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, the gas futures are down about thirty cents.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I think it was thirty three cents.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Specifically that that doesn't automatically immediately translate into lower prices,
but that could come. And then the other thing is
that gold. Gold is still over three thousand dollars an
ounce right now, and a lot of people because of
the uncertainty, have been moving into gold. That will drive
the price up. And a lot of people are now
talking about taking insurance out on their jewelry because it
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is increasing in value.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You'll see, I wore no gold today, just silver. Oh,
protecting my gold?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Where do you keep it? Oh? Don't tell me, don't
tell me.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I should keep it in a little jewelry box your
wife gave me.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Don't tell everybody where you keep your gold. I'm trying
to protect you and your gold.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, Well, here's a fun fact. It's not gold. It's
all costing jewelry. Well, right, nobody, it's all plastic. Anyway,
we will continue.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
By the way, this story about this El Salvadoran guy
who was sent to a prison in El Salvador wrongly,
and the administration admits this is not the guy they
thought it was, or he should not have been sent
to El Salvador in prison, but at this point they
really can't do much about it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Everybody in prison right now is raising their hand and yeah,
I was born here and I'm not I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm spartan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I didn't do it. I am I am Spartakuss.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Big shock. Well, if you know any children, it's not
a big shock. Kids love Minecraft and they have for
a while.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, not not a shock.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Made one hundred and fifty seven million dollars in its
first weekend in theaters. The total marks the biggest opening
of the year, best for any video game adaptation in history.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That was the part that surprised me.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
There have been a lot of a lot of those
video games made into movies, then many of them would
have been more popular.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think about this generation, this is the generation that's
been playing it for five or so years locked down
all of that like Super into Minecraft.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't know if more so.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But good morning Gary and Shannon with the slowfall. This
is Jillian. I'm a nurse.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I love your sh oh you live with me.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Went out strengthening exercise and balance. Check if you can
get down to the ground and back up without using
your hands. So that's a great indication of your stability
and strength. And do it right now.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You got down, okay without your hands, that part's established.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, I mean I use my wrist. Obviously.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You don't even know where it's hurt. You were just
looking for I can't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I don't remember. It's a pretty good wound. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I dictate that's horrible. I learned that from my dad.
Practice this at home safely and you will get stronger
and less likely to fall.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, okay, I'm Jillian.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm not that bad. Like I can get on the
floor and get back up. I'm a fairly active person.
I'm saying this all to try and prove.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
To myself that I can try to stake yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Up, so you could try it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I take the heels off.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Well, I guess if you want to do it not
real world.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Sure, so she just you don't have to go anywhere
where you going.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Just stand right there. Just get down on your butt.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, you made it ow careful with the floor there.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Now can you get up without using your hands?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That was fine, But you have balance, that's the that's
the key, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You did have to lean forward quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, if your ass was this big, you'd need to
stabilize the front of your body.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Too, counterbalance.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is the guy that we're talking about
who has been who has been deported to the terrorism
Confinement Center in El Salvador. This is the notorious prison
down there known as Seacot. And k Abrego Garcia got
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married to an American in twenty nineteen. Jennifer Vasquez Sora
was near the end of a pregnancy. The government was
pressing to deport him to his native l Salvador, and
they thought a wedding in the detention center that he
was in might be their only chance to keep him there.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He had come to the United States without authorization when
he was a teenager. That's called illegal. But the immigration
judge spared him from deportation. At the time, they said
that transporting him back to l Salvador would endanger his life.
This again, the judge said this because a gang had
been targeting his face.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Some minor, it's not illegal, right, Well, what do you
mean him coming to the country as a minor is
not illegal?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Sure it is.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
If he's under eighteen and he's taken here.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
It's still illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But he wouldn't he wouldn't necessarily be deported back. And
that's I think at least part of the reason, also
why the judge took some pity on him. So he
goes back to his wife and kids and kids sorry
in Maryland, go back to work as a sheet metal laborer.
He starts a five year apprenticeship program. He's taking classes
at the University of Maryland. He has regular check ins
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with immigration customs agents. But this year they load him
on a plane middle of March and they send him
to this terrorism confinement center.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
He's still there.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
They're still trying to figure out what to do with
him because federal immigration officials. Current federal immigration officials do
say that he was deported to the prison in error,
but that they don't have the authority to do anything
about it because he's no longer in their system.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
He's now in the system in El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The White House, at least the current one says that
he probably has a connection to MS thirteen, that he's
one of the leaders there, and he has denied any
sort of gang involvement.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It should be pretty easy to iron that out, we'd hope.
So should not if he has no affiliation to MS
MS thirteen. It's very easy to prove no affiliation. It's
also easy to prove affiliation. Just I mean, there's a
million ways well on the sens to show those tentacles.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
According to the judge, a judge heard this case on
Friday about the deportation, and the judge, Paula Zennis, asked
the Justice Department for evidence of gang affiliation and the
Department of Justice was unable to do so.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, well, then, I mean, you either show it or
you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You don't come to the courtroom with he's a member
of MS AT thirteen with no nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
To show for it, right, you can't just say he's
El salvadoran right, exactly. The Justice Department attorney Erez Ruvenni said,
he didn't know the answer to the question of whether
or not he's MS thirteen or any others, including why
they chose this place to send him to, and the
DOJ lawyer said, I'm also frustrated, I have no answers
(23:57):
for you on a lot of these questions. Now, I
believe that this is the same attorney that Pam Bondi
fired because the attorney wasn't vociferously defending the administration on
this case. They said, labeling this guy a gang member
and then sending him to that facility that intentionally mixes
(24:19):
rivals including the gang to threaten to harm him as
a team, puts him at risk. The Trump administration appealed
the order on Friday, but this order does require order
from the judge, requires this guy be returned to the
United States by midnight tonight, and an appeals court has
yet to weigh.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
In on all of that. So this is it's not
getting any easier.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's not as clear cut as saying they just picked
up the wrong guy. This guy had been on the
radar of immigration and Customs enforcement for years.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What is your earliest memory can you think of it?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I know I know the answer to this question because
I talked about it, I know, weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Maybe I feel like we've talked about it before because
I think I told you about this my earliest memory
that I can remember, right, that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yes, I do have one.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, what's your earliest memory? Let us know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Brain scans show infants remember more than we thought. We'll
talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So tomorrow, are you gonna up the game a little
bit in the outfit department?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Might?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Might?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Kind of shoes are we dealing with?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Just the converse?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Ah, it's dirty from start to finish, head to toe.
Not dirty, I mean laid back in fall. Hey, listen,
it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, listen, And and you don't have to justify to me.
I understand that there are times that you make a
realization about the condition your body's in and it may
not be as the glorious as you think it is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Totally amen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Today is day five of jury selection in the retrial
Karen Reid in Massachusetts. Ten jurors have been seated for
the second trial of courses Is, the woman accused of
killing her Boston police officer boyfriend. The prosecutors say she
hit him with her SUV and he died in the snow.
She and her defense team says something went on with
him and his cop buddies after a night of drinking,
(26:31):
and she had nothing to do with it. They needed
least sixteen jurors, of course twelve and then four alternates.
The judge declared a mistrial last year when the jury
in the first could not reach a unanimous verdict.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Justice Department, I mentioned, did suspend a veteran lawyer after
he said in court that all officials did mistakenly deport
the guy to prison and his home country Bell Salvador
and conceded he didn't know the legal basis for the expulsion.
A Ruvenni had worked at the Justice Department for romals
fifteen years and as I mentioned, Pam Bondi over the
weekend fired him.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pope Francis has made his first public appearance since his
release from the hospital.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So I'm in the wheelchair, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, good for him. Eighty eight years old, comes back
from double pneumonia. Wow, amen, you know what I mean? No,
but I mean that praying. The praying works guys.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, and yeah, a lot of people. It wasn't just him.
You mean the praying for it, I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
All of it, Yeah, all of it. Can you imagine
the amount of prayers that went up for Pope Francis?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Almost all of them? Almost all you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Can imagine almost all of them.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You have no idea how to imagine that kind of
volume of prayer.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
What's the memory you remember?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Earliest memory, the earliest memory I remember, and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It's vivid, probably because it's one of those core memories
they talk about in the animated movies with all the
feelings inside out.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh, I had a breakdown by the way while you
were gone that I haven't told you about. But anyway,
that's neither here nor there. Physical, mental, well not really mental,
just anyway.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, So here's the scene that I remember. I'm in
a stroller, the sun is shining. My mother leaves the stroller.
We're at Pioneer Park in Nevado.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Leaves us. So I'm stroller aged. So whatever that is,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
She goes to get something out of the trunk or something,
or I see her at the trunk or whatever, and
then she I don't see her and I think I
remember it because it's fear.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I guess it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Very strong initial feeling of fear of where is she?
And I just remember being in the stroller and the
sun shining and not knowing where she was. And that
was a very strong feeling that I remember sun shining.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Mine wasn't fear, but it's the earliest I can remember.
I'm sitting on the floor in the kitchen and my
mom is putting shoes on my feet, the blue shoes
on my feet, and she put them on my feet
and then said those are on the wrong feet, and
then switched them and then said, no, they're not and
switched them back. And I remember that because it was
(29:19):
clearly too young to do it myself. But but that
there was like it wasn't just a normal putting your
shoes on. It was she thought she'd screwed it up
and then put Because kids feet, they don't write it's
that's a very common yeah, So but that was it
had to be kind before kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Wow, that's very four three four five. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I like that because that's like a very real moment.
I'm sure that's happened to every parent putting on.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Their kid's shoes.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There was a study that was done that observes the
memory activity in the brains of babies. Now, first of all,
I don't know how you're really able to measure that,
But scientists at Yale gave twenty six kids between the
ages of four months and two years a memory task
while each of them was inside an MRI, which measures
(30:11):
blood flow within your brain, and they were shown pictures.
These babies were shown pictures of faces or objects or landscapes,
while scientists watched how their eyes tracked each image and
how their brains lit up in response, and in some instances,
they said when babies saw an image for the first time,
blood flow increased to the posterior hippocampus. They said that
(30:33):
this is known to be engaged in so called episodic
memory in adults, or the capacity to remember specific event
or experience of the past. When the babies saw those
images again, they looked at them longer, suggesting to the
researchers that the kids remembered having seen them before. Interesting
(30:53):
and in their babyhead thoughts to themselves, it was like
a lifetime ago. When did Y see that before? And
they said, memories are getting into the system. This cognitive
neuroscientist at Yale said the effect was clearest in babies
that were twelve months or older, so maybe that that
(31:14):
would be the cutoff sort of at twelve months is
when you're really able to capture some of those memories
and be able to recall them at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Most studies of memory and.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Kids involve older kids who can answer questions about what
they remember, but they said this one is important because
it opens the door to other studies that could look
at the the most basic memories even earlier than the
four or five six years old, but down to the
two the one the several months a They talk.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
About a study of mice put in a maze, the
adult mice that were put into the same maze as babies,
And I'm thinking to myself, jeez, I stopped short of sacrilegious. There.
We're throwing four month old baby into an MRI machine
that was the only thing, and then we're throwing baby
mice into this maze, and then we're putting them back
(32:06):
into that maze as adults. Like, how many baby mice
and baby babies? Are we just traumatizing for you? And
I to be like, I go lift to the stroller
and put in your part like why why do we
need to know what babies are remembering when it comes
to pictures?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And why are we scanning their brains?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That sounds harmful, sounds unnecessary to be putting a baby
through any sort of MRI machine.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
A baby baby, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
A baby baby as opposed to a baby mouse.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, so that we can say something like this, Hey,
what's your earliest memory?
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It's good for us?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Have you read these reviews?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh really? Yeah, I'm gonna go look at that right now.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's not a great idea, like you said, it's probably,
let's see, not great feedback. See the virus that killed
Gene Hackman's wife. It's not necessarily making a resurgence, but
we are talking about it again. And explain where it
has come into play in California. Coming up next on
Gary and Shannon.
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A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is kind of funny
watching a team go to the White House. They don't
have to tell us what their political affiliations are. You
can just sense it when they're standing there. Yeah, I
(00:21):
mean you see it. You see it with every president,
with every team, every administration. Usually there's like the you
can tell that the people that are super proud to
be there, the people that are super proud to be
there for this president, the people that don't really want
to be there, the drunk people.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Like it's super.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Obvious when the sports teams that win the national whatever
go take a trip to the White House. Today it
was the Dodgers turn with President Trump, and it was
Clayton Kershaw who.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Got the honor, privilege, whatever word you want to call it,
of presenting President Trump with the number forty seven jeroch
Oh and he loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Like Clayton loved it. You could tell Mookie's not so much.
It's pretty quiet, pretty quiet, still.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Still recovering from his illness.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Or what Trump said, The Dodgers show a spirit that's
not often seen on other teams. He said, based on
what he's seen the season, the team can plan on returning.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To the White House next year. Yeah. Seriously. Nine and
two start to go for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, so your second place Dodgers will be playing in
Washington today. That's why they're in DC in the first place.
They'll be taken on the Nationals. They lost yesterday in
the up and down game against the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I knew the Phillies were going to snap the street gone?
Was that Friday? Yeah, Yeah, I just had a feeling.
I mean, that's what Philadelphia does. You know, They just
they crap on you, you know, whole city.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Listen, there's been already, in a couple of hours of
trading on Wall Street, a couple of big things that
have gone on. One of them was real, one of
them was not, and then another one that's a threat
to be real. Means that we've seen another sell off
on Wall Street. The now Jones and Industrial Average as
of right now is down about eight hundred points, so
(02:05):
the S and P five hundred the Nasdaq are also
down about a percent and a half. All three of
those indices had shown major You know, four or five
percent losses at the very beginning of trading, and then
because we're talking about terras and we're talking about what
was imposed last week, the weekend that everybody got nervous about,
(02:26):
and then the selloff that was expected because we sow
it in European markets earlier today as well as Asian markets.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Kind of knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Saw it coming last week because it was like, how
long is a president going to be able to take
this beating on Wall Street?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know, he takes it personally.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know that it's a sign of Wall Street and
investors not having trust in his plan, and he just
he's just not built to withstand that kind of thing.
So it was kind of a thought last week of
all right, so what is he going to say to
calm everyone down? Well, somebody got on the phone somewhere
because it went from the Dow went from down something
like fifteen h hundred.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
To down one hundred and ninety minutes or something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like that, because word got to Wall Street that there
would be a pause in these tariffs. We saw it
with Canada and Mexico. What was that two months ago?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
A month ago and here's here's what added fuel to
that fire. White House Economic Advisor Kevin Hassett, one of
the guys that's been making the rounds and trying to
explain these tariffs and why they would be good for
the United States. He was on Fox this morning and
you can hear almost a throwaway question, or not not
a throw away question, a throwaway response to the question
(03:35):
of a ninety day pause that some people took as Oh, yes,
there will be ninety day paus.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Will you do a ninety day pausing? Which you consider that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Or built yeah, you know, I think that the president is.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Okay, so he says yeah, I mean right after. But
it wasn't a response to the question.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's one of those tick verbal tick things that people
do when they're trying to respond to the question, just
to go give it a little bit more context, or
bilt yeah, you know, I think that the president is
going to decide what the President's going to decide.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
There are more.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Than fifty countries in negotiation with the president. We've got
the Prime Minister of Israel coming today.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
We've had to reach.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Out overnight from Taiwan.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
But I would urge everyone, especially Bill, to.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
He's up the rhetoric a little bit, okay, So he
goes on to say whatever he does, he the president,
that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
He wasn't there commenting on this ninety day pause.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like you said, the markets are looking for anything
to grab on to to try to claw back some
of their losses. So down sixteen hundred within the first
few minutes of trading, and then it goes back and
almost I mean it does peek into positive territory for
a few minutes. And then the latest is that Trump
is talking about the potential for another fifty percent tariff
(04:51):
on Chinese goods if they don't end It's this is
this is the weirdest economically speaking, the weirdest few days
I think we've seen in several decades.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, and we saw it coming, but it doesn't make
it any easier to talk about or to get through.
I want to spend a little bit more time on
what you just said, because I think it's key Trump
saying he's going to raise tariffs on China by another
fifty percent if the country doesn't get rid of the
retaliatory tariffs on US goods. That was something that came
(05:25):
down Friday morning, well, Friday night for China, but for
us Friday morning, when China's like, eh, oh f us
no fu. And so what does that mean? Because while
he's talking on one hand about pausing tariffs, he on
the other hand, he's talking about doubling down with China.
And I got to believe that the China tariffs, when
(05:46):
it comes to things costing us more, are going to
be much more. Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know how much more harmful or hurtful those
will be as opposed to the other tariffs in place
that he's thinking about pausing.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And as we saw Kevin Hasset say, and we talked
about it last week, that the point of this, the
point of imposing tariffs at all, was to drive those
other countries to the negotiating table, right, and they.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Have come, according to Trump and his team, other countries
have picked up the phone.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They've come to the table to be like, Okay, let's
work this out right, whereas China has not. China is
standing firm.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And so that's why he's hitting back with this crazy
ass number of fifty percent more. I don't know if
that's the way you play with China, I don't know.
I've never played with China.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And if one of his goals is to then isolate
China so much out of them of the international market,
US being their biggest customer, maybe there is some success
to that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I understand the guy's brain because he, as Kevin Hassett
referred to it, Trump's the one making the decisions, and
it doesn't sound like he's taken a lot of guidance
from anybody in the economic team. He's the one who's
making the final decision. He's the president. He can do that.
But when you look at the different reasonings that have
(07:06):
been given by each of these economic advisors, whether it's
the Secretary of Treasury, you've got Pete Navarro, one of
the White House economic advisors, they all kind of have
slightly different reasons for what the President is doing because
the President himself apparently hasn't been clear in those meetings, like, guys,
here's what we're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, remember when we had the engineers in this room
and they were kind of building it up. We had
moved studios, and they said what do you want and
we said, oh, we'd like stand up desks and if
we could have this and if this board could be
over here, and they just looked at us and they're.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Like, I don't know, I want you to pump the
brakes on all that. Maybe too much.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Maybe that's what I feel like his economic advisors are doing.
You don't get to be a White House economic advisor
by saying.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Hell yeah, let's blow us up, let's go crazy trifs,
hell yeah, fifty percent more.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Let's go That's not what gets you to that point
in your career as an economic advisor. Like the guys
that play fast and loose with this kind of stuff,
they don't reach that echelon of advising the president of
the United States. You know, That's why it's fun and
headline making to bring in someone like Elon Musk to
shake things up.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's done in business, is done in the private sector.
It's usually not done in government, and definitely not done
with Wall Street.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So coming up, we'll talk more about this.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
There is one segment of the economy, well two smaller
segments of the economy that are absolutely on fire right
now in a good way. But also what the President
is saying to you, the American people, about what this
is going to look like.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Over the next couple of days, you're.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Forty husband and I, I'm sorry, what a slow fall?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You ever see an old person fall?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Do you notice that it's oftentimes a slow falk?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yah?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, So I've reached that point in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was walking with my husband on the sidewalk and
I was in flip flops.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's not an excuse.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I stepped on what appeared to be maybe like the
lip of the sidewalk kind of going into like a
planter area, and and I thought, oh, I'm tripping, And
then I thought.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You had the presence of mind.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think I'm going down, and then I'm thinking I'm.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Falling now, And I mean it was like and then
I'm lying there and there's like a dad and his
toddler who's in like one of those wheely cart things,
and there are a couple steps that had and I'm like,
oh my god. And it was one of those things
where they don't even say anything because they're so embarrassed,
Like he's so embarrassed, and I'm like, oh, and.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Then did I pop back up? No, Like it took
me a while because I'm a little sore.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And so it was like a slow rise to get
back up, and no one wanted to admit what happened
what they saw because it was that embarrassing. Kept walking
and I said to him, I go, oh, it was
a slow fall, wasn't it. He's like, yeah, yeah, it
was anyway, and I have this I did.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I was going to ask you where that came from.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You got a flaceration, but I survived it. But yeah,
it was a slow fall. It was very slow and
very embarrassing. And I've reached that point.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So see here we.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Are in a hospital. They'd give you a bracelet that
says you're a fall. I made that joke yesterday. So
maybe maybe get maybe your husband gets you one with
like diamonds on it or something.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, I have this aversion to the Apple Watch. I
don't want it. I understand how great it is. I
know it's magical for everyone and everyone who has it
as an advocate of it, I don't want an Apple Watch.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I like watches, I don't I just don't want that
much inform.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't want it. I don't want it. But it
does have that life alert capability. To where if you
fall like it will, it'll say like, hey, do you
need me to call someone?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Or it's a life alert.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Right, It's like it's a commercial you saw at your
grandparents house when you're at home sick, you know, eating
Flintstone's vitamins and jello out of a cop.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I've fallen and I can't get up.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, And there she is. She's in that kitchen. It
looks kind of nice, looks like a nice life.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But there she is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And then she's got the bracelet and the little the
little thing that Ev had.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That that alerts people.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And uh, it would have been funny if your husband
was walking with you you fell and then he gets
an alert that says, Shannon must have just fallen.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I should check on her. Yeah so but I.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, well, welcome back from your your fall.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You went to Texas?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I did it was you want to move there? It
was really great. You have the conversation we do every time. Yeah,
that's the thing is. And I did go by the
radio station in Wake just to see where it was.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To they have capabilities to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Barely looks like it would survive a tornado.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, you won't have to live in Waco. You could
live in a bigger hub.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, you know, but it was beautiful and it's green
right now, so everything is like the drive is great.
We were on the right on the southern tip of
like all the storms that have been going through, so
it was cloudy and it did rain on Saturday and
some thunder and stuff like that, but it was just
it was super nice and it was great because the
town Waco itself is a cool little town. It's got
(12:32):
a bunch of little The place that we stayed was
a house that was built in nineteen oh eight and
had been refurbished.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It was a really cool place.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And then we got to meet a bunch of the
people that our daughter works with in this research lab.
So it was a funny kind of putting the personalities
together after hearing her stories about people. Yeah, so't some
of those blank spots. That's very cool that you that
you went out to visit her. That means a lot
to her. I know it would.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, there are the people like me who go anywhere
and like I could live here, I want to live here,
Like I could pretty much anywhere, but Cincinnati. I think
that's the only place I've been where I'm like, absolutely not.
But like I romanticize things like visit travel or whatever.
I could go anywhere. I drive freaking up the ninety
nine and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh, I could live here.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
This is a nice yeah. Selma like, oh, there's a
barn over there. I could live here. But I totally
have that impulse. Sometimes you are not that person, so
I can tell, like when you like love a place
and you're thinking seriously about it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And then yesterday we had some time to kill as
we made our way back to Dallas, so we went
to the fort Worth Stockyards. You ever been me, no
little tourist thing, and they run they run a cattle
drive through there twice a day. We didn't stick around
for that, but it was a cool little yeah. I mean,
like the history of what fort Worth used to be, right.
And then driving from fort Worth into Dallas, you go
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past Globe Life stated the ball park, and then the
football stadium and there's a six flag. We went to
Dealey Plaza where JFK was shot. You got to add
the context. I've seen this thing so many times in
so many different versions to actually drive that little loop there.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Did you play around on the grassy knoll?
Speaker 6 (14:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But that's the other part about it that doesn't there's
little guys out there with their stands and their.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Little conspiracy theory books.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Totally yes, and they're and they're walking up down. The
whole little section is kind of coned off. There's a
the museum that's right there this I think they call
it the sixth Floor Museum or whatever. But it was
it was great to see the grassy knoll and go.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's not as big as I thought.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No, I know, it's small, the whole section, the whole
whole area.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I know, I know the.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Library, like that's the craziest it was.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I bet they have a resurgence all the conspiracy people lately,
because wasn't it recently that was it JFK.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Junior that was supposed to come back from.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The dead Daily Plaza, So I bet that that was
another resurgence for them when all those people descended waiting
to see JFK. Junior come back from the dead, Like Jesus,
I don't know, I don't know how that works.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
There was there were a lot of people there.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I mean, there's several dozen people just kind of standing
on that sidewalk right And like I said, it was
coned off so that people didn't come into traffic because
it's still it's a working street. I mean, they don't
block it off or anything. And then to drive on
that exact road and go under that overpass and get
onto the freeway because you go right past Parkland Memorial
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Hospital where they took him after the shooting, and then
love Field is just beyond that where we flew in
and out of.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
So it was it was a really cool. It was
a fun afternoon. It was cold.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
It was it was cold, like never got above maybe
forty six degrees yesterday.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That that is too cold for what I was expecting.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Or then I came to Texas, so if I'm ready
for it, yeah, but then that's the thing is so yeah,
yesterday's high temperature in Waco is fifty. It's going to
be eighty eight degrees there tomorrow. I mean it's just
the wild swings like that are not something I'm used
to because I'm California.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Week.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If I go through another slow fall, don't take me
to Parkland. I don't do well there.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I wanted to point out that there are there are
a couple of places. There's one area that is really
seeing a lot of growth right now. Yeah, despite all
of this, and that happens to be the oil industry
and an oil industry in that gas prices for US
consumers are going down.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There are true oils the lowest it's been in the years.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What is it like, sixty bucks a barrel?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, the gas futures are down about thirty cents.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I think it was thirty three cents.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Specifically that that doesn't automatically immediately translate into lower prices,
but that could come. And then the other thing is
that gold. Gold is still over three thousand dollars an
ounce right now, and a lot of people because of
the uncertainty, have been moving into gold. That will drive
the price up. And a lot of people are now
talking about taking insurance out on their jewelry because it
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is increasing in value.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You'll see, I wore no gold today, just silver. Oh,
protecting my gold?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Where do you keep it? Oh? Don't tell me, don't
tell me.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I should keep it in a little jewelry box your
wife gave me.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Don't tell everybody where you keep your gold. I'm trying
to protect you and your gold.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, Well, here's a fun fact. It's not gold. It's
all costing jewelry. Well, right, nobody, it's all plastic. Anyway,
we will continue.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
By the way, this story about this El Salvadoran guy
who was sent to a prison in El Salvador wrongly,
and the administration admits this is not the guy they
thought it was, or he should not have been sent
to El Salvador in prison, but at this point they
really can't do much about it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Everybody in prison right now is raising their hand and yeah,
I was born here and I'm not I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm spartan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I didn't do it. I am I am Spartakuss.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Big shock. Well, if you know any children, it's not
a big shock. Kids love Minecraft and they have for
a while.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, not not a shock.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Made one hundred and fifty seven million dollars in its
first weekend in theaters. The total marks the biggest opening
of the year, best for any video game adaptation in history.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That was the part that surprised me.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
There have been a lot of a lot of those
video games made into movies, then many of them would
have been more popular.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think about this generation, this is the generation that's
been playing it for five or so years locked down
all of that like Super into Minecraft.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I don't know if more so.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But good morning Gary and Shannon with the slowfall. This
is Jillian. I'm a nurse.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I love your sh oh you live with me.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Went out strengthening exercise and balance. Check if you can
get down to the ground and back up without using
your hands. So that's a great indication of your stability
and strength. And do it right now.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You got down, okay without your hands, that part's established.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, I mean I use my wrist. Obviously.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You don't even know where it's hurt. You were just
looking for I can't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I don't remember. It's a pretty good wound. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I dictate that's horrible. I learned that from my dad.
Practice this at home safely and you will get stronger
and less likely to fall.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, okay, I'm Jillian.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm not that bad. Like I can get on the
floor and get back up. I'm a fairly active person.
I'm saying this all to try and prove.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
To myself that I can try to stake yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Up, so you could try it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I take the heels off.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Well, I guess if you want to do it not
real world.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Sure, so she just you don't have to go anywhere
where you going.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Just stand right there. Just get down on your butt.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, you made it ow careful with the floor there.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Now can you get up without using your hands?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That was fine, But you have balance, that's the that's
the key, all right.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You did have to lean forward quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, if your ass was this big, you'd need to
stabilize the front of your body.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Too, counterbalance.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is the guy that we're talking about
who has been who has been deported to the terrorism
Confinement Center in El Salvador. This is the notorious prison
down there known as Seacot. And k Abrego Garcia got
(20:52):
married to an American in twenty nineteen. Jennifer Vasquez Sora
was near the end of a pregnancy. The government was
pressing to deport him to his native l Salvador, and
they thought a wedding in the detention center that he
was in might be their only chance to keep him there.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He had come to the United States without authorization when
he was a teenager. That's called illegal. But the immigration
judge spared him from deportation. At the time, they said
that transporting him back to l Salvador would endanger his life.
This again, the judge said this because a gang had
been targeting his face.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Some minor, it's not illegal, right, Well, what do you
mean him coming to the country as a minor is
not illegal?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Sure it is.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
If he's under eighteen and he's taken here.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
It's still illegal.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But he wouldn't he wouldn't necessarily be deported back. And
that's I think at least part of the reason, also
why the judge took some pity on him. So he
goes back to his wife and kids and kids sorry
in Maryland, go back to work as a sheet metal laborer.
He starts a five year apprenticeship program. He's taking classes
at the University of Maryland. He has regular check ins
(22:07):
with immigration customs agents. But this year they load him
on a plane middle of March and they send him
to this terrorism confinement center.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
He's still there.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
They're still trying to figure out what to do with
him because federal immigration officials. Current federal immigration officials do
say that he was deported to the prison in error,
but that they don't have the authority to do anything
about it because he's no longer in their system.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
He's now in the system in El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
The White House, at least the current one says that
he probably has a connection to MS thirteen, that he's
one of the leaders there, and he has denied any
sort of gang involvement.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It should be pretty easy to iron that out, we'd hope.
So should not if he has no affiliation to MS
MS thirteen. It's very easy to prove no affiliation. It's
also easy to prove affiliation. Just I mean, there's a
million ways well on the sens to show those tentacles.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
According to the judge, a judge heard this case on
Friday about the deportation, and the judge, Paula Zennis, asked
the Justice Department for evidence of gang affiliation and the
Department of Justice was unable to do so.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, well, then, I mean, you either show it or
you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You don't come to the courtroom with he's a member
of MS AT thirteen with no nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
To show for it, right, you can't just say he's
El salvadoran right, exactly. The Justice Department attorney Erez Ruvenni said,
he didn't know the answer to the question of whether
or not he's MS thirteen or any others, including why
they chose this place to send him to, and the
DOJ lawyer said, I'm also frustrated, I have no answers
(23:57):
for you on a lot of these questions. Now, I
believe that this is the same attorney that Pam Bondi
fired because the attorney wasn't vociferously defending the administration on
this case. They said, labeling this guy a gang member
and then sending him to that facility that intentionally mixes
(24:19):
rivals including the gang to threaten to harm him as
a team, puts him at risk. The Trump administration appealed
the order on Friday, but this order does require order
from the judge, requires this guy be returned to the
United States by midnight tonight, and an appeals court has
yet to weigh.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
In on all of that. So this is it's not
getting any easier.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's not as clear cut as saying they just picked
up the wrong guy. This guy had been on the
radar of immigration and Customs enforcement for years.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What is your earliest memory can you think of it?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I know I know the answer to this question because
I talked about it, I know, weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Maybe I feel like we've talked about it before because
I think I told you about this my earliest memory
that I can remember, right, that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yes, I do have one.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, what's your earliest memory? Let us know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Brain scans show infants remember more than we thought. We'll
talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So tomorrow, are you gonna up the game a little
bit in the outfit department?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Might?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Might?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Kind of shoes are we dealing with?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Just the converse?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Ah, it's dirty from start to finish, head to toe.
Not dirty, I mean laid back in fall. Hey, listen,
it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, listen, And and you don't have to justify to me.
I understand that there are times that you make a
realization about the condition your body's in and it may
not be as the glorious as you think it is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Totally amen.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Today is day five of jury selection in the retrial
Karen Reid in Massachusetts. Ten jurors have been seated for
the second trial of courses Is, the woman accused of
killing her Boston police officer boyfriend. The prosecutors say she
hit him with her SUV and he died in the snow.
She and her defense team says something went on with
him and his cop buddies after a night of drinking,
(26:31):
and she had nothing to do with it. They needed
least sixteen jurors, of course twelve and then four alternates.
The judge declared a mistrial last year when the jury
in the first could not reach a unanimous verdict.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Justice Department, I mentioned, did suspend a veteran lawyer after
he said in court that all officials did mistakenly deport
the guy to prison and his home country Bell Salvador
and conceded he didn't know the legal basis for the expulsion.
A Ruvenni had worked at the Justice Department for romals
fifteen years and as I mentioned, Pam Bondi over the
weekend fired him.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pope Francis has made his first public appearance since his
release from the hospital.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So I'm in the wheelchair, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, good for him. Eighty eight years old, comes back
from double pneumonia. Wow, amen, you know what I mean? No,
but I mean that praying. The praying works guys.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, and yeah, a lot of people. It wasn't just him.
You mean the praying for it, I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
All of it, Yeah, all of it. Can you imagine
the amount of prayers that went up for Pope Francis?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Almost all of them? Almost all you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Can imagine almost all of them.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You have no idea how to imagine that kind of
volume of prayer.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
What's the memory you remember?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Earliest memory, the earliest memory I remember, and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It's vivid, probably because it's one of those core memories
they talk about in the animated movies with all the
feelings inside out.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh, I had a breakdown by the way while you
were gone that I haven't told you about. But anyway,
that's neither here nor there. Physical, mental, well not really mental,
just anyway.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, So here's the scene that I remember. I'm in
a stroller, the sun is shining. My mother leaves the stroller.
We're at Pioneer Park in Nevado.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Leaves us. So I'm stroller aged. So whatever that is,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
She goes to get something out of the trunk or something,
or I see her at the trunk or whatever, and
then she I don't see her and I think I
remember it because it's fear.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I guess it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Very strong initial feeling of fear of where is she?
And I just remember being in the stroller and the
sun shining and not knowing where she was. And that
was a very strong feeling that I remember sun shining.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Mine wasn't fear, but it's the earliest I can remember.
I'm sitting on the floor in the kitchen and my
mom is putting shoes on my feet, the blue shoes
on my feet, and she put them on my feet
and then said those are on the wrong feet, and
then switched them and then said, no, they're not and
switched them back. And I remember that because it was
(29:19):
clearly too young to do it myself. But but that
there was like it wasn't just a normal putting your
shoes on. It was she thought she'd screwed it up
and then put Because kids feet, they don't write it's
that's a very common yeah, So but that was it
had to be kind before kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Wow, that's very four three four five. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I like that because that's like a very real moment.
I'm sure that's happened to every parent putting on.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Their kid's shoes.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There was a study that was done that observes the
memory activity in the brains of babies. Now, first of all,
I don't know how you're really able to measure that,
But scientists at Yale gave twenty six kids between the
ages of four months and two years a memory task
while each of them was inside an MRI, which measures
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blood flow within your brain, and they were shown pictures.
These babies were shown pictures of faces or objects or landscapes,
while scientists watched how their eyes tracked each image and
how their brains lit up in response, and in some instances,
they said when babies saw an image for the first time,
blood flow increased to the posterior hippocampus. They said that
(30:33):
this is known to be engaged in so called episodic
memory in adults, or the capacity to remember specific event
or experience of the past. When the babies saw those
images again, they looked at them longer, suggesting to the
researchers that the kids remembered having seen them before. Interesting
(30:53):
and in their babyhead thoughts to themselves, it was like
a lifetime ago. When did Y see that before? And
they said, memories are getting into the system. This cognitive
neuroscientist at Yale said the effect was clearest in babies
that were twelve months or older, so maybe that that
(31:14):
would be the cutoff sort of at twelve months is
when you're really able to capture some of those memories
and be able to recall them at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Most studies of memory and.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Kids involve older kids who can answer questions about what
they remember, but they said this one is important because
it opens the door to other studies that could look
at the the most basic memories even earlier than the
four or five six years old, but down to the
two the one the several months a They talk.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
About a study of mice put in a maze, the
adult mice that were put into the same maze as babies,
And I'm thinking to myself, jeez, I stopped short of sacrilegious. There.
We're throwing four month old baby into an MRI machine
that was the only thing, and then we're throwing baby
mice into this maze, and then we're putting them back
(32:06):
into that maze as adults. Like, how many baby mice
and baby babies? Are we just traumatizing for you? And
I to be like, I go lift to the stroller
and put in your part like why why do we
need to know what babies are remembering when it comes
to pictures?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And why are we scanning their brains?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That sounds harmful, sounds unnecessary to be putting a baby
through any sort of MRI machine.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
A baby baby, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
A baby baby as opposed to a baby mouse.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, so that we can say something like this, Hey,
what's your earliest memory?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
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Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh really? Yeah, I'm gonna go look at that right now.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's not a great idea, like you said, it's probably,
let's see, not great feedback. See the virus that killed
Gene Hackman's wife. It's not necessarily making a resurgence, but
we are talking about it again. And explain where it
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