May 9, 2025 • 30 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – The U.S. and China are set to begin trade negotiations in Switzerland this weekend / First Chinese freight ship goods hit with Trump’s 145%-plus tariffs arriving at U.S. ports. The Republicans and Democrats Pulling Off the Unthinkable: Staying Friends. They built a secret apartment in the mall. Now it’s a movie. New Virginia law restricts social media usage for kids.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, Gavin Newsom is not
going to be pleased with all of the press. Somebody
is getting for a potential run for twenty twenty eight
on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is where we kick off the swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
So now you train the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Squad, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You know, Murvans have always been going at president, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Have the people voted for you? When not?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Swamp's so serious, it's a fix this face a lot.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Alright, he's thinking about Gary and Shannon. Who is this
are you talking about? Josh Shapiro? No, who are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'll give you some hints. Okay, He's privately meeting with donors.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Jbie Pritzker.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, he's recording a podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Kevin Newsom, you already said it's not him.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's a former Well, let's just say he.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Has a proven ability to win in Trump country. He
was a two term governor of Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
His name not as Andy Basher. Oh he is. That's
what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, people are saying that this guy was. He is
a two term governor even recognizable. Yeah, last year. Now
he is being talked about. Charlie Kirk has said that
he is going to be one of the toughest Democrats
to beat. He's speaking at the Future Forward Donor summit
this weekend in California. One of the feathers in his
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cap as he continues to court donors, which you have
to do at this point. He's been relatively under the
national radar as an unapologetic Democrat, and he's got to
overcome that obscurity, the lack of name recognition. But they
say the challenge is translating what he calls his reasonable
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and common sense Kentucky story into a national Democratic primary campaign.
They say he's got a low key personality. Will that
be enough to move the needle on the excitement scale
when it comes to Democrats, specifically Democratic donors and primary
voters as well, But he's.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Doing all the work.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Pete gen Greco is a veteran of several Democratic presidential campaigns.
He says he's the kind of guy that's either going
to bump along at two percent never catch fire, or
he'll catch fire and you'll say, where did this guy
come from?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think one thing about Andy Basher that has.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
That has put him on the national in the national
spotlight for bad reasons is Kentucky's been ruined by natural
disasters in the last couple of years and he has
come out and been as you would expect a governor
to be the point man on the recovery efforts. So
that I mean, but outside of that, I don't know
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of anything that has, you know, elevated him to a
national scale.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He's a former attorney general.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He talks about all God's children and he's believable when
he does. So they say he's the exact opposite of
Donald Trump. So he's an intriguing dark horse for a reason.
Work for Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. But he's one
of those rural state Democrats that you give a better
I give a better chance to Andy Basher than Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newsom may be popular on the coasts, but in
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the middle, no, not liked, not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
He doesn't I don't think he realizes that I.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Have a hard time liking that guy. Politics aside, and
I'm going to yoga today. Imagine the guy tending you know,
the back forty or whatever you say when you're tending land,
and how Gavin Newsom comes across as someone who's not
a Californian.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Right, who's never had to do that right life exactly,
all right. So we know that trade negotiations are going
to take place between China and the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
They'll take place in Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
President Trump today suggested that the US levies on Chinese
goods could be lowered down to eighty percent. He posted
on truth Social today, eighty percent tariff on China seems
right exclamation point, and then wrote up to Scott b
referring to Scott Bessens, of course, the Secretary of the Treasury,
who will be taking part in those in those discussions
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in Geneva. The interesting timing of this is that ships
that are making their way into the Ports of La
and Long Beach are now the first ones to be
subject to that massive tariff. So in a few weeks
we might start to see some of our regular staples
that come in from China at exorbitant prices because of
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those tariffs. Gene Soroco, we talked about him, he's execut
the director of the Port of La Earlier this week
he said, we're down thirty five percent compared to the
same time last year, and these cargo ships coming in
are the first ones to be attached to the tariffs
that were levied against China and other locations last month.
So the Port of La did expect eighty ships this month,
(05:20):
eighty ships in May. About twenty percent of those have canceled,
and there have already been at least a dozen canceled
sailings for the month of June. Not that they couldn't
restart them, but it does take a few weeks to
get across the Pacific full of that stuff. So the
timing is significant because we are starting to see the
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first shipments of the very highly tariffed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Goods coming into the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A couple of local stories right now. Mark Geragis is
on the microphone outside of the courthouse in Van Eyes
talking about what's going on with the legal minutia and
the wrangling between him and Nathan Hawkman.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You want it, Oh, sure.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
We also have the habeas in front of a different judge.
I did not want to without a fully developed record
because I just got this information Brian will talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, So Garigis wanted the DA's office to accuse itself
from the case.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He has pulled that motion again.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's all weedy legal stuff and now it's just it's
it's devolved into a Mark Garrigus Nathan Hawkman dog and
pony show outside of that courthouse. The news is nothing
happened on the Menanda's Brothers front today.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
There you go, and I think they scheduled another hearing
for next week exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
The other big local story is the guy who they
were looking for for two weeks, a manhunt that lasted
two weeks long, has now been arrested. This is the
guy that they like for the murder inside that upscale
Valley Village apartment complex. He was taken into custody at
a mental hospital. I believe so the victim fifty three
(07:00):
old Manny was killed in that apartment complex in Valley Village.
But they now have the guy that did it, so
people can rest easy there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Something we have been preaching but haven't been seeing very
much is people willing to look the other way when
it comes to whatever political party you have behind your name,
if you identify that way. And we'll talk about how
Republicans and Democrats in DC can remain friends despite you know, well,
(07:31):
there's that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm glad that microphone wasn't.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
On mine was.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Gary and Shannon will continue a reminder tonight Dodgers taken
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Speaker 1 (07:51):
We have a big announcement coming up at noon. We're
giving away some Mother's Day gifts still to come, a
couple of them coming up on the show, So keep
it right here.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We've talked about people crossing the isle and being friends.
I look no further than Ruth Bader Ginsburg right on
the on the Supreme Court with antonin Scalia. You look
at James Carvill and his wife. You know, you look
at Joe Biden several times when he still had it
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together and spent forty years reaching across the isle and
made front. But the difference is now we are playing
so much dirtier, it seems, or at least all the
dirtors is out in the open flying around.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
There was an interesting Wall Street Journal article that talks
about Republicans and Democrats doing or pulling off the unthinkable,
and that is staying friends even in a political environment
that is so divided like we've seen in the last
fifteen twenty years. Whatever it is, and they refer specifically,
there is a bipartisan group of lawmakers that meets every
(09:04):
morning in the House gym six thirty in the morning
and they do an hour of cardio and waits. They
do not talk about politics. It's forbidden. In fact, they say,
the biggest point of contention in that hour long gym
session first thing in the morning is Congressman Darren Lehood's
Pandora subscription because this Republican out of Illinois refuses to upgrade,
(09:26):
so he's got the basic level. And there's a bunch
of ads that promote funny businesses in Peoria, Illinois that
regularly interrupt your gym vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Whatever it is. That's the way it kind of should be.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Right now, what I think is surprising to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I believe this is a guess.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I believe a lot more people are paying attention to
politics now than they did ten years ago. And it's
more common for people to follow politics now than they
did ten years ago, for no other reason than for
social media.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right, But if you look at the.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
The sniping, angry tone that you hear in some of
the committee hearings, for example, that every politician knows is
going to be televised and they want to get their
viral moment out there. Just think of Marjorie Taylor Green
and Jasmine Crockett going after each other's looks.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That type of thing is on display in DC.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
But that a lot of people would be surprised at
how friendly and cordial and respectful the lawmakers are when
there is no camera around, when there is no microphone
in front of their faces. Obviously, antagonism has grown between
Republicans and Democrats, and one of the reasons that this
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article points out is jerrymandering, you know, the sort of
artificial reconfiguring the borders of congressional districts, because it has
shrunk the number of those competitive elections. And if you
reward or if you cater to your party's base, there's
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a like more stronger, more stronger, a stronger likely or
that you're going to be elected. I mean, Marjorie Taylor
Green is one of the examples of a very very conservative,
right wing person out of Georgia who in days past
might not have gotten elected simply because she wouldn't have
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been moderate enough she would have to appeal to some
of the Democrats. So they also said that fundraising tactics
have diminished the power of the party leaders, so that
those loudest lawmakers think AOC are the ones that are
going to raise the most money. And I mean, anything
that's happened in the last ten years politically has only
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ratcheted up those tensions. And the guy like they use
the example of John Fetterman out of Pennsylvania. Have you
noticed the number of articles about John Fetterman and that
are questioning his mental capacity to do work now as
a senator. There's a dozen of them out there within
the last week, and he has fought back against those
(12:12):
and just said, hey, listen, it's like goodfellas. Everybody's got
to take a whacken now and then. And he's an
outspoken guy who has said that he fully understands and
supports some Trump policies. Not that he's ever going to
change his party affiliation to Republican, but he's a guy
who otherwise probably wouldn't be re elected in the state
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of Pennsylvania just based on the way it leans. So
at the orientation for new senators a few years ago,
Alabama Republican Katie Britt made friends with a couple of Democrats.
Fetterman was one of them, Peter Welch of Vermont was
the other one, And Welch then invited the two again
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fresh co freshman senators over for dinner one night, and
he served salmon with arugula giant blueberries, and Katie Britt said,
wait a minute, that's next level. Why are you treating
me so nicely that this Republican out of Alabama is
surprised that this democrat out of Vermont is finding common
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ground in Hey, we're in this together. We're both freshmen
and the Senate. We got to kind of watch each
other's backs and help each other out, even though we
may be going down the statee different paths when it
comes to politically speaking. But they've kept up this tradition
of dinner that they regularly get together and have enjoyed
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each other's company and the spouses and all of that
sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't know if Fetterman's wife is around. She seems
to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
A group of guys built a secret apartment in a mall,
and now this secret apartment is making headlines and it
is getting its own television treatment and will tell you
a story when we come back. Also coming up in
the show, we have a big announcement to make at noon.
We're giving away a couple of Mother's Day gifts. If
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you've been slow to the uptake on what to get mom,
we can help you out in that department. Or if
you are a mom, now for you out to get
it for yourself.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Yeah, Happy Friday, guys, I hope you can hear me.
I'm outside getting my house painted today, and I wanted
to check on the painters and shot out here, I'm
having the house painted kind of pale yellow, and hey,
that's white.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
See what he did?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I see what he is? That's white.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Bro. Well, I wanted to make it clear that that
was white smoke and that we indeed had a pope.
And listen, we all have regrets in life.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
You don't regret that regret that you said it twice
because you said it differently.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's white. Yeah, that's white, bro.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Bro, that's white. Oh my god, that's white.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Bro. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I wouldn't say it's always been a dream of mine,
but I've always had this weird image of what happens
in stores after they close. When I was a kid,
I've told the story before. We used to go to
Mervin's to do our back to school shopping. Not to brag,
but we lived pretty high on the hog at the
Murmur and I would remember open. I remember climbing into
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those clothes racks, you know, the big circular rack got
five hundred shirts on it, and you climb into the
middle of it, and it was quiet in there, and
no one could see you in there.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I bet you if I stayed in there.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
For hours forgotten you, it would close the store and
I would have the run of the place by myself.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Everybody had that sort of fantasy. In the eighties, there
were a number of films about people hanging out in
malls after they were closed. Mannequin Mannequin maybe the most popular,
and Manniquin two Electric Boogaloo. Sure well. There was a
group of artists using air quotes here who in two
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thousand and three were kind of priced out of their
community in Providence, Rhode Island. They were living in an
artist commune that had been gentrified, and so they had
nowhere to go. They didn't have a lot of money,
and they found this like space, this crawl space, essentially
inside the nearby Providence placemall.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I have been to this mall anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It was a seven hundred and fifty square foot space
hidden inside. They would sneak in through a parking garage stairwell.
There's also a way to get it in through a
bunch of emergency exits. Anyway, they managed to bring in furniture,
a TV gaming console. Again, this is two thousand and three,
they tap into the mall's electricity. They construct their own
cinder block walls with a lockable door.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
This whole thing, we had eight different people, artists specifically,
so make your own judgment with that word. Eight artists
live there for weeks at a time until the year
two thousand and seven when Michael Townsend was caught by
a trio of security guards.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Them being again artists with finger air quotes here. They
were approached by several people who found out about this
are authors, filmmakers, TV creators. People wanted to adapt this
into a story, and because they're artists, they said, nobody
seemed like the right person for the job. Could you
imagine that you're like a broke artist living in a
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room in a mall and people are approaching you to
tell your story and how you guys were able to
do this for four years, and you're like, h, you
don't seem like the right guy to put our story
on the television.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
That's something an artist, of course, it is a finger quotes, Yes, artists.
So they did find a guy who is also a
documentary filmmaker who wanted to do this, and he convinced
them to go with him because he wanted to highlight
the act of resistance. He referred to it that underlied
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the whole stunt in the first place, which was to
build and maintain Actually this secret apartment inside this mall.
The filmmaker, they said, was somebody who seems to be
fascinated by eccentric or obsessive people and uses his films
to make them accessible.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So the.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Documentary Secret Mall Apartment relies on old footage and a
bunch of new interviews to talk about the Okay, now
buckle in, because this is where it starts to lose
touch with reality. It relies on old footage and new
interviews to probe the impact of rampant capitalism.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
On individual people.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Nobody's asking you for that message.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Well, all we want to hear about is a few
dudes living in a crawl space.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
The filmmaker a guy named Jeremy Workman. He says, documentaries
are good at capturing the strata of time. We went
through this cycle where malls were really important for our communities,
and now we're in this dead mall period. Like, wait,
is it better that malls don't exist now that that
in and of itself, yes, that might be something that's
worth a discussion. We all know places that we either
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grew up around, you know, malls that were brand new
when we were kids, that have now just completely been mothballed,
some that have been torn down, some that do not
look anything like they did even ten years ago. And
that is a legitimate discussion, That is a legitimate question
of where are we on this on the timeline of
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what a mall is and can be for a community.
But a lot of this, you know, these people talk
about the passion and for malls, has waned in recent years.
A lot of people, including some of some of Townsend's friends,
distanced themselves from the whole thing. They didn't want to
be the guy known as the guy who lived in
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the mall. So a bunch of Michael Townsend's friends just said, hey,
you're on your own finger quotes. Artists, do your own
finger quotes art on your own time. We don't want
to have anything to do with it. All eight of
the people that did live in that secret mall apartment
appear in the documentary. Some of them are a little
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bit more prominent than others. They appear in hours of
footage that were captured, not just during their mall days
on the old Pentax cameras. It's funny because the way
that it's the way Michael Townsend says, all of that
old footage, the old stuff was never really meant to
be seen by anyone. They never had an intention of
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putting this together as a documentary. And he said, there
was some very pure about what we were doing at
the time. It could be dumb, it could be profound,
whatever you think of it, but it's pure because they
were just doing it for the sake of doing it,
to live in this secret apartment even.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Though they didn't have to.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
So again, this secret mall apartment is this new documentary
that's out there for these people who lived in a fake,
made up corner of a mall for the.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Course of about four years before they got caught.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There is a new lawn in Virginia actually that restricts
social media usage for kids.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Bless their hearts. How do you put the.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Toothpaste back into the tube? How would you enforce this?
How would you have parents enforce this? It seems kind
of silly, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's like me being pissed that so Viet spacecraft isn't
crashing into us.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Stupid Africa. They get everything.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Yeah, all right, we will next hour, of course, get
into what's going on, what's happening. We have a big
announcement that's coming up. We have some things we're going
to be giving away, including a couple of Burke Williams
gift cards for Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
If you're a mom, or you want to pretend you're
a mom, how do listen?
Speaker 6 (22:24):
It's up to you, however you want to do it
and get a Burke Williams gift card. Will tell you
how you can win that. Coming up tonight, the Dodgers
is going to take on the Diamondbacks in Arizona.
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First pitch is going to be at six point forty.
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Zenshi handcrafted sushi made fresh daily. It's at the Ralphs
right near the deli counter, you know, back there and
all the less.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I love the Ralps. Everyone's so friendly at the Ralves,
aren't they my Ralphs, Great Ralphs.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It's funny if you live in a place where you
have a choice between the Ralphs and a Vaughan's. It's
like Ford and Chevy.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I go through phases. Do you really like a nail slon?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, I know, yeah, right? But uh yeah, I mean
but I love I.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If I don't want to have any polite conversation with anyone,
will go to the Vaughns because the Vonds people aren't
as chatty there. Really, Ralph's everyone's real polite and chatty
and friendly.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Mine is completely opposite, really opposite.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Wow, maybe the people at my Ralphs get off work
at my Ralphs and they go work at your Vaughn's.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Surely, I'm sure they do.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Parents in Virginia are going to have a backstop when
it comes to limiting their kids social media usage. A
new law signed in by Governor Glenn Youngkin in Virginia
will restrict kids under sixteen to one hour of social
media per day. This article out of WSLS in Virginia
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talks to one parent, Ashley Mullins two young kids already
trying to figure out how to manage screen time, and
she says, it makes sense. I think these kids are
on their phones way too much. They like to be
on their tablets and watch TV. I notice a difference
when I limit that, right.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
When you limit that as the parent.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't like the government telling me what to do
with my children.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I don't like them stepping in and saying I parent
better than you do parent. I know your kids better
than you do.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I hate that for parents when other parents tell parents
how to parent. That drives me crazy too. And yeah,
I don't have kids. I can't imagine how i'd feel
if I did. But do you feel that way of like, hey, yeah,
I get what you're saying, but I'm the parent.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I call the shots in my house.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well, it's it doesn't impose the law on the parents.
In this case, this law would impose restrictions on the
social media company.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What it does is.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It requires a social media platform to implement what they
say are commercially commercially reasonable methods to verify.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
What if you you have a kid who is a
different kid and is only learning or interacting with people
through screens or whatever. You know what I mean, Like,
there's just different You could get to make the rules
under your own roof, is what I'm saying, And that's
the way it should be.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Well, if you are somebody like Ashley Mullens who has
thought about how am I going to help?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
How am I going to limit my.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Kid's access to social media? This makes it where they
register for a social media account and then that social
media company has to make sure that that kid can
only be on that account for one hour a day. Listen,
I don't know how they're going to do that. That's
what people write code for and they make a whole
lot more money than we do. But they would say
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that if you have one of those specialized situations, there's
a work around.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
It feels like it's almost the Hey, we know that
not everybody's going to be down with this, and we're
making it easy enough for you to get around the
law if you want to do it that way. But
if you're a parent who has struggled with this and
you don't know how to do it, this is one
of the things that you can use in your tool
bag to try to restrict your kid's use of social
media and phones in general, phones, tablets, whatever it is.
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The executive director for Partnership for Community Wellness talks about
the need for proactive parenting. Nancy says, you wouldn't hand
the keys to the car at age six and say
go off and do what you want. This is a
digital highway without any seat belts, and we have to
be intentional. Other people have said that this reduces their
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exposure to potential predators and other dangers.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That we see online.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
So it's fine, it's fine to me in that this
is not You're not going to get parents in trouble
for doing something.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
This is. This puts the onus on social media to.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Rein in the amount of hours a day that a
kid could use. But it's really easy to get around.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, but what is the state of Virginia.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
What is their jurisdiction over social media companies?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
We'll see, I mean maybe this is maybe this gets
challenged in court and it goes by the way.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Still to me has an air of I'm going to
tell you how to parent, and I'm going to tell
you what your kids should be doing. You know better
about what your kids should be doing as their parent
than anybody else, certainly in the state house.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
What do you support taking phones out of schools?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, because that's not under my roof. That's where they
should be learning.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Okay, that's a good I like the difference. Yeah, I
mean it makes sense.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
This is Jim from BLI.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Hey, Gary, I think you got the Mannequin two mixed
up with break In two Electric Google is.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I just want to give your heads up on that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Have a great thanks to make sure you get that
worked out there and that noggin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Eric's out there. It's Eric's birthday, birthday music. I'm not
a singer, you're the singer. I can't say Musico will
run into a wall.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Now get out of here.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We don't get out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Come back, Come back, Eric, come back. How old are you?
That's right?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I keep wanting to say you're twenty nine because I
just can't bring myself to realize that you turned thirty
last year.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
How does that feel?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
My back hurts? Yeah? No, hell, my knees hurt yep.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Men in their thirties, man, that's a rough patch.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Should just give up now.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But the good news is when you're forty five bingo.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh really, that's what I got to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm going to hate your men age pretty darn well.
I think Harry.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Look at him, he looks like the same that he
did when he was twenty one.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I don't know about that, not twenty He didn't have
a beard when you were twenty one. I know I did,
Did you really? I did?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah? No, I think you look a solid twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Oh, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, what I have?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I don't have a birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Are you going to get married and make some kids?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, like I said, find me a nice Jewish girl
and we can get to get started on that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Have you sing your mom this weekend?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I am she can have the same conversation with you. No, no, okay,
she's cool. Then she's unlike me.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, no, you're cool.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I just want to get a baby around here.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It would just be a little more of it. I
don't think you want a baby from me around here.
I do know it's wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Don't sell yourself short. You're gonna make great babies.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Weird ones out there. You have to misshaped heads on
those look.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, we don't need to know everything.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I just want to know why he feels inadequate when
it comes to we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You're doing I think you're doing great, Eric, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The thing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio ap
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, Gavin Newsom is not
going to be pleased with all of the press. Somebody
is getting for a potential run for twenty twenty eight
on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is where we kick off the swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
So now you train the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Squad, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
by what has been.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You know, Murvans have always been going at president, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Have the people voted for you? When not?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Swamp's so serious, it's a fix this face a lot.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Alright, he's thinking about Gary and Shannon. Who is this
are you talking about? Josh Shapiro? No, who are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'll give you some hints. Okay, He's privately meeting with donors.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Jbie Pritzker.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, he's recording a podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Kevin Newsom, you already said it's not him.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's a former Well, let's just say he.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Has a proven ability to win in Trump country. He
was a two term governor of Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
His name not as Andy Basher. Oh he is. That's
what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, people are saying that this guy was. He is
a two term governor even recognizable. Yeah, last year. Now
he is being talked about. Charlie Kirk has said that
he is going to be one of the toughest Democrats
to beat. He's speaking at the Future Forward Donor summit
this weekend in California. One of the feathers in his
(01:51):
cap as he continues to court donors, which you have
to do at this point. He's been relatively under the
national radar as an unapologetic Democrat, and he's got to
overcome that obscurity, the lack of name recognition. But they
say the challenge is translating what he calls his reasonable
(02:11):
and common sense Kentucky story into a national Democratic primary campaign.
They say he's got a low key personality. Will that
be enough to move the needle on the excitement scale
when it comes to Democrats, specifically Democratic donors and primary
voters as well, But he's.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Doing all the work.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Pete gen Greco is a veteran of several Democratic presidential campaigns.
He says he's the kind of guy that's either going
to bump along at two percent never catch fire, or
he'll catch fire and you'll say, where did this guy
come from?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think one thing about Andy Basher that has.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
That has put him on the national in the national
spotlight for bad reasons is Kentucky's been ruined by natural
disasters in the last couple of years and he has
come out and been as you would expect a governor
to be the point man on the recovery efforts. So
that I mean, but outside of that, I don't know
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of anything that has, you know, elevated him to a
national scale.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He's a former attorney general.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
He talks about all God's children and he's believable when
he does. So they say he's the exact opposite of
Donald Trump. So he's an intriguing dark horse for a reason.
Work for Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. But he's one
of those rural state Democrats that you give a better
I give a better chance to Andy Basher than Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newsom may be popular on the coasts, but in
(03:38):
the middle, no, not liked, not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
He doesn't I don't think he realizes that I.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Have a hard time liking that guy. Politics aside, and
I'm going to yoga today. Imagine the guy tending you know,
the back forty or whatever you say when you're tending land,
and how Gavin Newsom comes across as someone who's not
a Californian.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Right, who's never had to do that right life exactly,
all right. So we know that trade negotiations are going
to take place between China and the United States.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
They'll take place in Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
President Trump today suggested that the US levies on Chinese
goods could be lowered down to eighty percent. He posted
on truth Social today, eighty percent tariff on China seems
right exclamation point, and then wrote up to Scott b
referring to Scott Bessens, of course, the Secretary of the Treasury,
who will be taking part in those in those discussions
(04:32):
in Geneva. The interesting timing of this is that ships
that are making their way into the Ports of La
and Long Beach are now the first ones to be
subject to that massive tariff. So in a few weeks
we might start to see some of our regular staples
that come in from China at exorbitant prices because of
(04:56):
those tariffs. Gene Soroco, we talked about him, he's execut
the director of the Port of La Earlier this week
he said, we're down thirty five percent compared to the
same time last year, and these cargo ships coming in
are the first ones to be attached to the tariffs
that were levied against China and other locations last month.
So the Port of La did expect eighty ships this month,
(05:20):
eighty ships in May. About twenty percent of those have canceled,
and there have already been at least a dozen canceled
sailings for the month of June. Not that they couldn't
restart them, but it does take a few weeks to
get across the Pacific full of that stuff. So the
timing is significant because we are starting to see the
(05:40):
first shipments of the very highly tariffed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Goods coming into the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A couple of local stories right now. Mark Geragis is
on the microphone outside of the courthouse in Van Eyes
talking about what's going on with the legal minutia and
the wrangling between him and Nathan Hawkman.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You want it, Oh, sure.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
We also have the habeas in front of a different judge.
I did not want to without a fully developed record
because I just got this information Brian will talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, So Garigis wanted the DA's office to accuse itself
from the case.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He has pulled that motion again.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's all weedy legal stuff and now it's just it's
it's devolved into a Mark Garrigus Nathan Hawkman dog and
pony show outside of that courthouse. The news is nothing
happened on the Menanda's Brothers front today.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
There you go, and I think they scheduled another hearing
for next week exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
The other big local story is the guy who they
were looking for for two weeks, a manhunt that lasted
two weeks long, has now been arrested. This is the
guy that they like for the murder inside that upscale
Valley Village apartment complex. He was taken into custody at
a mental hospital. I believe so the victim fifty three
(07:00):
old Manny was killed in that apartment complex in Valley Village.
But they now have the guy that did it, so
people can rest easy there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Something we have been preaching but haven't been seeing very
much is people willing to look the other way when
it comes to whatever political party you have behind your name,
if you identify that way. And we'll talk about how
Republicans and Democrats in DC can remain friends despite you know, well,
(07:31):
there's that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm glad that microphone wasn't.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
On mine was.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Gary and Shannon will continue a reminder tonight Dodgers taken
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You can listen to all the Dodgers' games on AM
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Use the keyword AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We have a big announcement coming up at noon. We're
giving away some Mother's Day gifts still to come, a
couple of them coming up on the show, So keep
it right here.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We've talked about people crossing the isle and being friends.
I look no further than Ruth Bader Ginsburg right on
the on the Supreme Court with antonin Scalia. You look
at James Carvill and his wife. You know, you look
at Joe Biden several times when he still had it
(08:29):
together and spent forty years reaching across the isle and
made front. But the difference is now we are playing
so much dirtier, it seems, or at least all the
dirtors is out in the open flying around.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
There was an interesting Wall Street Journal article that talks
about Republicans and Democrats doing or pulling off the unthinkable,
and that is staying friends even in a political environment
that is so divided like we've seen in the last
fifteen twenty years. Whatever it is, and they refer specifically,
there is a bipartisan group of lawmakers that meets every
(09:04):
morning in the House gym six thirty in the morning
and they do an hour of cardio and waits. They
do not talk about politics. It's forbidden. In fact, they say,
the biggest point of contention in that hour long gym
session first thing in the morning is Congressman Darren Lehood's
Pandora subscription because this Republican out of Illinois refuses to upgrade,
(09:26):
so he's got the basic level. And there's a bunch
of ads that promote funny businesses in Peoria, Illinois that
regularly interrupt your gym vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Whatever it is. That's the way it kind of should be.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Right now, what I think is surprising to a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I believe this is a guess.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I believe a lot more people are paying attention to
politics now than they did ten years ago. And it's
more common for people to follow politics now than they
did ten years ago, for no other reason than for
social media.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right, But if you look at the.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
The sniping, angry tone that you hear in some of
the committee hearings, for example, that every politician knows is
going to be televised and they want to get their
viral moment out there. Just think of Marjorie Taylor Green
and Jasmine Crockett going after each other's looks.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That type of thing is on display in DC.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
But that a lot of people would be surprised at
how friendly and cordial and respectful the lawmakers are when
there is no camera around, when there is no microphone
in front of their faces. Obviously, antagonism has grown between
Republicans and Democrats, and one of the reasons that this
(10:44):
article points out is jerrymandering, you know, the sort of
artificial reconfiguring the borders of congressional districts, because it has
shrunk the number of those competitive elections. And if you
reward or if you cater to your party's base, there's
(11:05):
a like more stronger, more stronger, a stronger likely or
that you're going to be elected. I mean, Marjorie Taylor
Green is one of the examples of a very very conservative,
right wing person out of Georgia who in days past
might not have gotten elected simply because she wouldn't have
(11:26):
been moderate enough she would have to appeal to some
of the Democrats. So they also said that fundraising tactics
have diminished the power of the party leaders, so that
those loudest lawmakers think AOC are the ones that are
going to raise the most money. And I mean, anything
that's happened in the last ten years politically has only
(11:48):
ratcheted up those tensions. And the guy like they use
the example of John Fetterman out of Pennsylvania. Have you
noticed the number of articles about John Fetterman and that
are questioning his mental capacity to do work now as
a senator. There's a dozen of them out there within
the last week, and he has fought back against those
(12:12):
and just said, hey, listen, it's like goodfellas. Everybody's got
to take a whacken now and then. And he's an
outspoken guy who has said that he fully understands and
supports some Trump policies. Not that he's ever going to
change his party affiliation to Republican, but he's a guy
who otherwise probably wouldn't be re elected in the state
(12:34):
of Pennsylvania just based on the way it leans. So
at the orientation for new senators a few years ago,
Alabama Republican Katie Britt made friends with a couple of Democrats.
Fetterman was one of them, Peter Welch of Vermont was
the other one, And Welch then invited the two again
(12:57):
fresh co freshman senators over for dinner one night, and
he served salmon with arugula giant blueberries, and Katie Britt said,
wait a minute, that's next level. Why are you treating
me so nicely that this Republican out of Alabama is
surprised that this democrat out of Vermont is finding common
(13:19):
ground in Hey, we're in this together. We're both freshmen
and the Senate. We got to kind of watch each
other's backs and help each other out, even though we
may be going down the statee different paths when it
comes to politically speaking. But they've kept up this tradition
of dinner that they regularly get together and have enjoyed
(13:40):
each other's company and the spouses and all of that
sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't know if Fetterman's wife is around. She seems
to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
A group of guys built a secret apartment in a mall,
and now this secret apartment is making headlines and it
is getting its own television treatment and will tell you
a story when we come back. Also coming up in
the show, we have a big announcement to make at noon.
We're giving away a couple of Mother's Day gifts. If
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you've been slow to the uptake on what to get mom,
we can help you out in that department. Or if
you are a mom, now for you out to get
it for yourself.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Yeah, Happy Friday, guys, I hope you can hear me.
I'm outside getting my house painted today, and I wanted
to check on the painters and shot out here, I'm
having the house painted kind of pale yellow, and hey,
that's white.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
See what he did?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I see what he is? That's white.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Bro. Well, I wanted to make it clear that that
was white smoke and that we indeed had a pope.
And listen, we all have regrets in life.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
You don't regret that regret that you said it twice
because you said it differently.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's white. Yeah, that's white, bro.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Bro, that's white. Oh my god, that's white.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Bro. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I wouldn't say it's always been a dream of mine,
but I've always had this weird image of what happens
in stores after they close. When I was a kid,
I've told the story before. We used to go to
Mervin's to do our back to school shopping. Not to brag,
but we lived pretty high on the hog at the
Murmur and I would remember open. I remember climbing into
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those clothes racks, you know, the big circular rack got
five hundred shirts on it, and you climb into the
middle of it, and it was quiet in there, and
no one could see you in there.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I bet you if I stayed in there.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
For hours forgotten you, it would close the store and
I would have the run of the place by myself.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Everybody had that sort of fantasy. In the eighties, there
were a number of films about people hanging out in
malls after they were closed. Mannequin Mannequin maybe the most popular,
and Manniquin two Electric Boogaloo. Sure well. There was a
group of artists using air quotes here who in two
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thousand and three were kind of priced out of their
community in Providence, Rhode Island. They were living in an
artist commune that had been gentrified, and so they had
nowhere to go. They didn't have a lot of money,
and they found this like space, this crawl space, essentially
inside the nearby Providence placemall.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I have been to this mall anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It was a seven hundred and fifty square foot space
hidden inside. They would sneak in through a parking garage stairwell.
There's also a way to get it in through a
bunch of emergency exits. Anyway, they managed to bring in furniture,
a TV gaming console. Again, this is two thousand and three,
they tap into the mall's electricity. They construct their own
cinder block walls with a lockable door.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
This whole thing, we had eight different people, artists specifically,
so make your own judgment with that word. Eight artists
live there for weeks at a time until the year
two thousand and seven when Michael Townsend was caught by
a trio of security guards.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Them being again artists with finger air quotes here. They
were approached by several people who found out about this
are authors, filmmakers, TV creators. People wanted to adapt this
into a story, and because they're artists, they said, nobody
seemed like the right person for the job. Could you
imagine that you're like a broke artist living in a
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room in a mall and people are approaching you to
tell your story and how you guys were able to
do this for four years, and you're like, h, you
don't seem like the right guy to put our story
on the television.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
That's something an artist, of course, it is a finger quotes, Yes, artists.
So they did find a guy who is also a
documentary filmmaker who wanted to do this, and he convinced
them to go with him because he wanted to highlight
the act of resistance. He referred to it that underlied
(18:15):
the whole stunt in the first place, which was to
build and maintain Actually this secret apartment inside this mall.
The filmmaker, they said, was somebody who seems to be
fascinated by eccentric or obsessive people and uses his films
to make them accessible.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So the.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Documentary Secret Mall Apartment relies on old footage and a
bunch of new interviews to talk about the Okay, now
buckle in, because this is where it starts to lose
touch with reality. It relies on old footage and new
interviews to probe the impact of rampant capitalism.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
On individual people.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Nobody's asking you for that message.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Well, all we want to hear about is a few
dudes living in a crawl space.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
The filmmaker a guy named Jeremy Workman. He says, documentaries
are good at capturing the strata of time. We went
through this cycle where malls were really important for our communities,
and now we're in this dead mall period. Like, wait,
is it better that malls don't exist now that that
in and of itself, yes, that might be something that's
worth a discussion. We all know places that we either
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grew up around, you know, malls that were brand new
when we were kids, that have now just completely been mothballed,
some that have been torn down, some that do not
look anything like they did even ten years ago. And
that is a legitimate discussion, That is a legitimate question
of where are we on this on the timeline of
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what a mall is and can be for a community.
But a lot of this, you know, these people talk
about the passion and for malls, has waned in recent years.
A lot of people, including some of some of Townsend's friends,
distanced themselves from the whole thing. They didn't want to
be the guy known as the guy who lived in
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the mall. So a bunch of Michael Townsend's friends just said, hey,
you're on your own finger quotes. Artists, do your own
finger quotes art on your own time. We don't want
to have anything to do with it. All eight of
the people that did live in that secret mall apartment
appear in the documentary. Some of them are a little
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bit more prominent than others. They appear in hours of
footage that were captured, not just during their mall days
on the old Pentax cameras. It's funny because the way
that it's the way Michael Townsend says, all of that
old footage, the old stuff was never really meant to
be seen by anyone. They never had an intention of
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putting this together as a documentary. And he said, there
was some very pure about what we were doing at
the time. It could be dumb, it could be profound,
whatever you think of it, but it's pure because they
were just doing it for the sake of doing it,
to live in this secret apartment even.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Though they didn't have to.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
So again, this secret mall apartment is this new documentary
that's out there for these people who lived in a fake,
made up corner of a mall for the.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Course of about four years before they got caught.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There is a new lawn in Virginia actually that restricts
social media usage for kids.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Bless their hearts. How do you put the.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Toothpaste back into the tube? How would you enforce this?
How would you have parents enforce this? It seems kind
of silly, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We'll talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's like me being pissed that so Viet spacecraft isn't
crashing into us.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Stupid Africa. They get everything.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Yeah, all right, we will next hour, of course, get
into what's going on, what's happening. We have a big
announcement that's coming up. We have some things we're going
to be giving away, including a couple of Burke Williams
gift cards for Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
If you're a mom, or you want to pretend you're
a mom, how do listen?
Speaker 6 (22:24):
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e LA Sports, and don't forget to pick up some
Zenshi handcrafted sushi made fresh daily. It's at the Ralphs
right near the deli counter, you know, back there and
all the less.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I love the Ralps. Everyone's so friendly at the Ralves,
aren't they my Ralphs, Great Ralphs.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It's funny if you live in a place where you
have a choice between the Ralphs and a Vaughan's. It's
like Ford and Chevy.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I go through phases. Do you really like a nail slon?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, I know, yeah, right? But uh yeah, I mean
but I love I.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If I don't want to have any polite conversation with anyone,
will go to the Vaughns because the Vonds people aren't
as chatty there. Really, Ralph's everyone's real polite and chatty
and friendly.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Mine is completely opposite, really opposite.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Wow, maybe the people at my Ralphs get off work
at my Ralphs and they go work at your Vaughn's.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Surely, I'm sure they do.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Parents in Virginia are going to have a backstop when
it comes to limiting their kids social media usage. A
new law signed in by Governor Glenn Youngkin in Virginia
will restrict kids under sixteen to one hour of social
media per day. This article out of WSLS in Virginia
(24:01):
talks to one parent, Ashley Mullins two young kids already
trying to figure out how to manage screen time, and
she says, it makes sense. I think these kids are
on their phones way too much. They like to be
on their tablets and watch TV. I notice a difference
when I limit that, right.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
When you limit that as the parent.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't like the government telling me what to do
with my children.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I don't like them stepping in and saying I parent
better than you do parent. I know your kids better
than you do.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I hate that for parents when other parents tell parents
how to parent. That drives me crazy too. And yeah,
I don't have kids. I can't imagine how i'd feel
if I did. But do you feel that way of like, hey, yeah,
I get what you're saying, but I'm the parent.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I call the shots in my house.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well, it's it doesn't impose the law on the parents.
In this case, this law would impose restrictions on the
social media company.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What it does is.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It requires a social media platform to implement what they
say are commercially commercially reasonable methods to verify.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
What if you you have a kid who is a
different kid and is only learning or interacting with people
through screens or whatever. You know what I mean, Like,
there's just different You could get to make the rules
under your own roof, is what I'm saying, And that's
the way it should be.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Well, if you are somebody like Ashley Mullens who has
thought about how am I going to help?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
How am I going to limit my.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Kid's access to social media? This makes it where they
register for a social media account and then that social
media company has to make sure that that kid can
only be on that account for one hour a day. Listen,
I don't know how they're going to do that. That's
what people write code for and they make a whole
lot more money than we do. But they would say
(26:01):
that if you have one of those specialized situations, there's
a work around.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Right.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
It feels like it's almost the Hey, we know that
not everybody's going to be down with this, and we're
making it easy enough for you to get around the
law if you want to do it that way. But
if you're a parent who has struggled with this and
you don't know how to do it, this is one
of the things that you can use in your tool
bag to try to restrict your kid's use of social
media and phones in general, phones, tablets, whatever it is.
(26:30):
The executive director for Partnership for Community Wellness talks about
the need for proactive parenting. Nancy says, you wouldn't hand
the keys to the car at age six and say
go off and do what you want. This is a
digital highway without any seat belts, and we have to
be intentional. Other people have said that this reduces their
(26:53):
exposure to potential predators and other dangers.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That we see online.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
So it's fine, it's fine to me in that this
is not You're not going to get parents in trouble
for doing something.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
This is. This puts the onus on social media to.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Rein in the amount of hours a day that a
kid could use. But it's really easy to get around.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, but what is the state of Virginia.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
What is their jurisdiction over social media companies?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
We'll see, I mean maybe this is maybe this gets
challenged in court and it goes by the way.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Still to me has an air of I'm going to
tell you how to parent, and I'm going to tell
you what your kids should be doing. You know better
about what your kids should be doing as their parent
than anybody else, certainly in the state house.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
What do you support taking phones out of schools?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, because that's not under my roof. That's where they
should be learning.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Okay, that's a good I like the difference. Yeah, I
mean it makes sense.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
This is Jim from BLI.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Hey, Gary, I think you got the Mannequin two mixed
up with break In two Electric Google is.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I just want to give your heads up on that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Have a great thanks to make sure you get that
worked out there and that noggin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Eric's out there. It's Eric's birthday, birthday music. I'm not
a singer, you're the singer. I can't say Musico will
run into a wall.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Now get out of here.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We don't get out of it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Come back, Come back, Eric, come back. How old are you?
That's right?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I keep wanting to say you're twenty nine because I
just can't bring myself to realize that you turned thirty
last year.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
How does that feel?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
My back hurts? Yeah? No, hell, my knees hurt yep.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Men in their thirties, man, that's a rough patch.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Should just give up now.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
But the good news is when you're forty five bingo.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Oh really, that's what I got to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm going to hate your men age pretty darn well.
I think Harry.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Look at him, he looks like the same that he
did when he was twenty one.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I don't know about that, not twenty He didn't have
a beard when you were twenty one. I know I did,
Did you really? I did?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah? No, I think you look a solid twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Oh, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, what I have?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I don't have a birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Are you going to get married and make some kids?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, like I said, find me a nice Jewish girl
and we can get to get started on that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Have you sing your mom this weekend?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I am she can have the same conversation with you. No, no, okay,
she's cool. Then she's unlike me.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, no, you're cool.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I just want to get a baby around here.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It would just be a little more of it. I
don't think you want a baby from me around here.
I do know it's wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Don't sell yourself short. You're gonna make great babies.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Weird ones out there. You have to misshaped heads on
those look.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, we don't need to know everything.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I just want to know why he feels inadequate when
it comes to we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You're doing I think you're doing great, Eric, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The thing.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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