June 23, 2025 • 30 mins
SwampWatch / National Security contributor to News Nation Tracy Walder joins the show to talk intelligence as tensions rise in the middle east.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. We are staying on top
of this Iranian attack against a US base and cutter.
In fact, we will waste no time getting right to it.
We'll start with swamp watch. Do we not have that?
(00:24):
We stopped doing that over the weekend. Well, I think
we're just going, Wow, did I have a stroke? Go on,
keep going, I'll just get right to it.
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Means I'm a cheat and a liar and when I'm
not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
The other side never quits, so.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So that is how you train the swat.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You know, Americans have always been going at president.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Why have the people voted for you with not swap watch?
They're all cannoid.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, So oil prices, as we mentioned, are dropping after
what's being now called Iran's restrained retaliation against the US.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
The stocks by the way, I've.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Responded with a two hundred point jump in the Dow,
investors warning any more aggression from Iran, Israel or the
US could spook markets again.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
They do believe.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They, being the talking expert heads kind of what we've
been talking about, that this is an effort for Iran
to say face with its people and to stop any
sort of de escalation by just firing the same amount
of weapons that we used over the weekend with our attacks,
giving a heads up that they were going to attack
this base, which was an obvious target. Yes, but even
(02:03):
the heads up is a sign that they're willing to
stand down, so to speak, after this one symbolic retaliation.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The short medium range missiles that they used maybe some
of the last ones that they even have. You mentioned
that Iran, according to Reuters, and I think New York
Times is also reporting Iran informed the Trump administration about
the missile strikes on that Allu Daid Air base in
caught are hours ahead of the attacks, so the ability
(02:34):
to close the Katari airspace, but also to get Americans
out of harm's way in some capacity. According to the Pentagon,
no casualties reported. Iran fired short medium range missiles, but
no Iranian attack. Sorry, no Iranian missiles were able to
(02:54):
actually strike the ground. They in fact were shot down
by Katari air defense system.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Trump hold up.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
With his national security team, and we assume there will
be some sort of comments that come out of this meeting,
maybe based on the contents of that, certainly as a
response to what has happened with Iran and their actions
and what appears to be their new stance in all
of this.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Also, Tehran's air defense systems have been activated. According to
Iran's student news network, there are air aid sirens that
are apparently going on in Tehran, and Israel is believed
to be running yet another military operation in Iran, going
after the military targets that they have yet to clean up.
(03:44):
There is an interesting aspect in all of this. Obviously,
President Trump has said it's time for peace with Iran.
The question is it's not necessarily up to him. All
of the other Arab states in that area have a
huge say in how this thing goes from this point forward.
How badly has the US and Israel damaged the nuclear capabilities?
(04:08):
Will Iran choose to retaliate? Obviously they have, but Trump
has pledged that he is not going to get involved
in foreign wars. He's also said he's not going to
allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Those two things
kind of crossed each other, shall we say, over the
weekend Iran. Israel has its own agenda which goes beyond
(04:33):
just stopping nuclear proliferation by Iran. They want to eliminate
the ballistic missile program. They would love to see regime change,
although they're not necessarily going to call for it outwardly.
Benjamin Netanyah, who said they are very close to achieving
what they set out to achieve, which is basically to
cut off every head that pops up of the Iranian regime.
(04:56):
They have not yet gone after the Ayatola, but of
course we know as of last week that they at
least had a plan to do so. A de escalation
would happen when both sides want it, it can happen soon,
according to Phillips O'Brien as, a professor of strategic studies
in Scotland, said, it could happen soon if Israel believes
it has achieved what it wanted and the Iranians believe
(05:16):
that further fighting imperils their ability to stay in power.
So not just Trump wanting something, There's a lot of
other players in this game.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, the major players. Benjamin Netan Yahoo, that's what they want.
Israeli prime minister has made a lot of hay out
of what happened to his country on October seventh, and
they have a very long standing relationship, the president and
the prime minister.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Trump said Saturday about net Yahoo as he addressed the
nation for the first time since the strikes. We worked
as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before.
He could have another act as a NFL coach right
with the.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Way he speaks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Their work together included not just the Middle East electoral politics.
Look no further than the spring of twenty twenty. Net Yahoo,
facing that indictment, was on the brink of losing an election,
and Trumpet sent some of his most favorite hired guns
to manage things. Susie Wiles, one of them now the
(06:23):
White House Chief of Staff. Trump sent her over Corey Lewandowski,
one of his long standing polsters, by the guy by
the name of Tony, Tony Fabrizio. Do you think Tony
just specializes in polls or maybe some other things.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He's putting people in trunks.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean they're friends. They're friends, and they want to
they want to work together, and they have. They have
both gathered strength together in the year, in the past decade.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, we'll see where this goes. We'll come back and
we'll reiterate what we know about the attacks that have
taken place on American military basis in the Middle East,
at least the Alo Dad Air Base there in cottr
and potentially another base in Iraq as well. More details
continue to come in. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
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Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's not just us waiting to hear from President Trump
and what he'll say about Iran's attack on the US
base and cutter, but his first social media post since
the strikes is a complaint about the media about his
statement that Iran's nuclear sites were totally obliterated. He called CNN,
ABC and NBC sleeves bags.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But he can't possibly know that they were obliterated. It
looked like it was a successful targeted strike. But we just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What are you going to say the bombs? I mean,
the intelligence that he has that we have it did
what they did what they were supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They went where they were supposed to be right, Oh right, right,
you're right, So that part of it's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Weas to say they didn't move the stuff, although we
would have known if they.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Moved as the stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, again, there are images that show sixteen nineteen trucks
or whatever it is, that in the days leading up
to this parked outside these facilities. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know what I know?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What do you know?
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different spaces in the Middle East to have shut down
their airspace. Caught her obviously shut down their airspace when
they knew that Iranian missiles were going to be headed
(09:10):
that way. Kuwait has apparently shut down airspace. Bahrain has
also shut down airspace because of the potential for okay,
so a potential for there to be more missiles. And
here's what we're talking about. So we knew that there
were fourteen mops that were dropped on these different nuclear
facilities on Saturday afternoon our time, but there were also
(09:33):
thirty Tomahawk missiles that were launched into at least one
of the facilities. So if Iran was saying they're going
to launch as many missiles as we did, do they
mean they're going to launch fourteen bombs or total number
of missiles, total number of toys deployed. So if that's
the case, then there's still some missiles that could be
coming in, which is why some of these other places
(09:55):
are still shutting down their airspace.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
However, just now, moments ago, I should say, all clear
sirens were sounded in Bahrain to announce the.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
End of danger.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The people who live there got mobile alerts on their
phones from the Ministry of Interior and the sirens were sounded.
So it seems like the feeling is is Aron fired
back and that's all that they intend to do or
all they can do, and that's what they have.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That is really their only option.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They're not armed to take us on or to fire
back at Israel.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
They're just not.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They are wounded severely in the nuclear department, the regime
is wounded severely in the pr department. They had to
do something like we've been using the term to save face,
but now to retain the regime. If that's what the
leadership wants to do, or that's obviously the leadership, then
(10:55):
they've got to come to the negotiating table or I
don't even know if you can call it that. What
are they to go siating with at this point? Hey,
if Trump thinks that he has obliterated all of their weapons.
Why not run with that ball straight into the end zone.
Why not come to the table with Trump and be like,
you got us, you got all our stuff. Trump gets
to take a victory lap, Israel gets to appear all powerful,
(11:17):
and secretly, Iran gets to keep building their nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You used a word there that I'm not sure is
the right word. You said, leadership. Who's left outside of
the supreme leader?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
This supreme leader in a circle?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But how much power do those guys? I mean, clearly
they're in charge.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But oh it's very but how much? Very precarious, very precarious.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, because I.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Mean there have been a lot of I did a
little research in the breaks. There have been a number
of uprisings and protests in recent years by the people of.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Iran that want more Western.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Conditions, conditions, and they're always put down by that Republican Guard.
But the Republican Guard has been completely decimated. The leadership
has been taken out. Every time somebody gets promoted, they
have about twelve hours to enjoy their new title before
they become a fine pink mist. Saudi Arabia, by the way,
has condemned the Iranian attack against the US military base
(12:15):
and kat Her, and again, Saudi Arabia, as strict as
it is when it comes to Islamic faith, is pretty
moderate in terms of politics and is not they're not
faking it when they are happy that Iran is not
(12:37):
going to be a nuclear power anytime soon. The Foreign
Ministry of Saudi Arabia described the Iranian attack on the
military base in Katar is a violation of international law
and said it affirmed its full support for kught Her.
Not a giant surprise, considering, like I said, that's kind
of the way we're going to see these other Arab
states react to the Israeli attacks on Iran and now
(12:58):
the American attack on Iran. You also mentioned the whole
Vladimir Putin issue. Vladimir Putin is saying that this attack,
the American attack on the Irani nuclear sites, was unjustified
and says that this pushes the world towards great danger,
and he says that he's going to try to help
the Iranian people in some way. President Trump and Israel
(13:22):
have talked about the killing of Supreme Leader Iatola Ali
Khamane and about regime change steps that Russia says would
be would have dire consequences, put that whole region into
a potential major war. Putin in fact shook hands with
is Iran's foreign minister in the Kremlin a wrong side
(13:45):
alongside the Russian Foreign Minister, the Kremlin Foreign Aid the
head of Russia's gru military intelligence agency. Putin did say,
the absolute, unprovoked aggression against Iran has no basis and
no justification. For our part, this is for Russian's part.
We are making efforts to assist the Iranian people. The
(14:07):
Foreign Minister for Iran was in Moscow to deliver hand
deliver a letter asking for more help from Russia. No
confirmation of that from Moscow, although the Foreign Minister passed
on best wishes from the Supreme Leader and President. And
they've talked about the strategic partnership that Russia supposedly had
with Iran. They bought or signed, i should say, a
(14:29):
twenty year strategic partnership deal earlier this year when they
were doing a weapons deal. When he was asked if
Iran had requested military help, the Foreign Minister said, we
interact with Iran in many areas. It's clear that it
would be irresponsible, irresponsible for me to disclose the content
of the contacts that are being conducted, including today, given
all the circumstances, but that he said, our strategic partnership
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with Iran is unbreakable.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, we are going to effort to get as many
experts as we can possibly talk to on the matter.
What kind of stabilization we could be looking at hoping
for there with with the Middle East, with iron in
Israel and all of the.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Ripples that that causes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know, you look at Saudi Arabia trying to bolster
or to the two countries becoming more friendly in recent years.
What that does to that balance, How it's all going
to avoid, how it's all going to play into our
oil prices. Not to make it about us, but it
is a question that's on the table. Coming up next,
we're going to be talking to Tracy Walder, who is
(15:33):
a former CIA officer, FBI special a special agent, worked
as staff operations officer at the CIA as well.
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Speaker 2 (16:17):
As the world was crumbling around us, the Pentagon says
that as of right now, they are not tracking any
other attacks on American basis in the Middle East. Of course,
we know that Iran did launch missiles towards the al
Udaide Air base and cut her. As of this point,
the Katari air defenses were able to knock out all
of the incoming missiles and no reports of any damage
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or injuries or anything as a result of those.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
This would be best case scenario. Iran gets to retaliate
no casualties. They are willing because they have no other
choice to come to some sort of negotiating table. They
leave their midst off the Northern Stretch to the Strait
of Hormuze, which was one of the concerns Right now.
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Stocks are rising, oil prices tumbling on the growing hopes
that Iran will not disrupt what is the global flow
of crude flowing through that through that straight Joining.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Us to talk more about all of this and try
to give us some perspective on it, is National Security
contributor to News Nation Tracy Walder spent some time, of course,
in law enforcement and the intelligence communities, and Tracy, if
you could, let's start with the most recent news first,
and that is that Iran launched a handful of missiles
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towards ali Date Airbase in Katar, not successfully in terms
of causing no injuries and damage that we know of,
but is still able to tell its people that they
struck the heart of the dragon or whatever flowery terms
they're going to use. Is this enough? Is this the
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end of their retaliation?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Do you think, well, thank you so much for having
me in my opinion, No, I mean I think assumed
that they were going to do this. Planes were removed
last week quite frankly from Alu Day, so I think
we knew that this was going to happen. This is
very similar to how Iran retaliated after the killing of
Custom Foul Money a few years back. However, Iran wasn't
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done with just attacking that airbase. They did, if folks remember,
try to unsuccessfully as fascinate President Trump and Ambassador Bolton,
and then I do think at this point in time
that we could be potentially looking at something here in
the homeland. I don't think that they're done.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
That's what we've been talking about, Tracy.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's kind of the only standing option, left standing option
for Iran is to carry out terrorism abroad. The FBI
has been, as they should be, very seek about this
and about their efforts to kind of dig into what
cells have existed.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Or may emerge here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yes, I completely agree with you, and rightly so. Obviously
security has been heightened. I think that that will take
two forms in me and I think the first, and
I've talked about this before is cyber Eran. I wouldn't
say that they're the best in the world at cyber,
but they are quite capable at cyber and cyber capabilities.
We best have to remember their allies of China, who
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really are the best at cyber, and so they have
launched successful cyber attacks here in the US. In twenty sixteen,
a massive denial of service attack to JP Morgan Chase
Bank of America twenty twenty two, they hacked Boston Children's Hospital,
and they have been launching cyber attacks on Israel lately.
It's just as early a few days ago actually, all
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in their critical infrastructure. So I think a cyber attack
is a very real possible. But then I know we've
also discussed sleeper cells. I'm not a fan of that term.
They're terrorists that they are, and I think those are
individuals that are lone wolves, if you will, that have
really identified or sympathized with the current regime in Iran
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that are just sort of, you know, waiting for a
signal essentially to wake up.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That was going to be the question I had was
about sleeper sales and the potential for them to be
here in the United States. How how real is that threat?
It seems like it's a movie plot, but is it
an actual thing that we need to worry about.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, that's I appreciate that question. That's why I don't
like that term sleeper cell, because I do think it's
obviously from the movies. As you mentioned, I think we
have to change our way of thinking in terms of
how we look at attacks and terrorists attacks, you know,
the days of nine to eleven or not. It's not
the same, right if we look at September eleventh, those
individuals came here right from other countries, lived here for
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a bit, and waited for a signal to attack. I
feel that individuals are probably already here and maybe homegrown,
because I think that's really what we're seeing here in
the US, is this kind of resurgence or a recurrence
of homegrown terrorists. And in my opinion, I think that's
more where it's going to come from rather than sort
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of outside coming here, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
We're talking to Tracy Walder.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
She is a former staff operations officer at CIA's counter
Terrorism Center, special agent here in Los Angeles at the FBI.
I was just reading your bio and it piqued my interests.
You specialized in Chinese counterintelligence operations. Where's China been in
all this? What's their influence in the conversation globally?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, that's a great question. I'm also glad you asked
that as well. I don't think there's enough discussion. I
think Chinna, Andy Ron, if folks know our allies, gosh,
ninety percent of the goods that are shipped through the
strait of horror. Moves that I know you were talking
about early or are from China, and China consumes about
forty five percent of their oil. So I think, in
my opinion, keeping that straight up horrormus open right now
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is very critical to China, and I think as a result,
we are probably leveraging that to keep that straight open.
We are trying to, you know, leverage whatever diplomatic relationship
we have to keep that open. So I think China
has condemned US, you know, bombing those nuclear facilities, but
I think they're doing it in sort of a soft way,
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if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I also had a question about Saudi Arabia. They came
out with the statement that condemned the Iranian attack on Cotter,
the missiles that came down. Saudi Arabia is probably one
of the happier countries now that Iran has been punched
back in terms of their nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
One hundred percent. I could not agree with you more.
You know, I think that they are probably listen, they're
trying not to be too joyful. Obviously that does not
look good from a diplomatic perspective to celebrate that, But
I absolutely think that they probably feel that they have
been victorious, quite frankly in that region, because them in
Iran have really gone at it for quite some time,
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and so I do think that they are probably quite
happy about this.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Her name is Tracy Walder. If you like Homeland, by
the way, you will love Tracy's book. It's called The
Unexpected Spy. It is so good. It's about her path
really from USC into the CIA to the FBI, her
secret life as a spy taking down terrorists.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Very good stuff. Tracy, thanks for your time today, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
A lot going on. We will continue to bring you updates.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
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Speaker 5 (23:48):
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. You have no manners, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
People think they're entitled to a lot of information. I'll
tell you that, Okay, listen. Oil prices are down. There
was a concern that any sort of conflagration in the
Middle East would drive oil prices higher, and that has
not been the case. Yesterday we saw futures actually decrease,
and right now oil is below seventy dollars.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
A bet eight fifty six. It is seven percentage drop.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
This is I mean this, I'm so much weirdness about this.
So the threat was that Iran's parliament had apparently voted
to close down the Straight of Horror moves. And I
don't know if the Iranian the Supreme Leader is going
to have the ultimate say on that sort of a thing,
but if they did, that's twenty percent of the daily
oil supply for the world that goes through the Straight
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of Horror moves. And the concern was that was going
to boost prices.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, so just to play a quick game of catch
up for all of US oil prices did jump last
night four percent shortly after the start of trading, but
retreat quickly because people in the Nose speculated that Iran
was very unlikely to close its northern border there or
the Strait of Hormuz. As we mentioned, that's what brings
(25:12):
the crew it into global markets. Iran said today that
it had launched this attack, and as soon as that happened,
and Ron came out and said, we use the same
amount of toys you did, and all signs were that
Iran wanted this to just de escalate. Now that's when
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you saw the huge drop in oil prices. Ships that
use the Strait of Hormuz carry roughly twenty percent of
the world's daily supply of oil. If they chose to
close it down or control of it, they would they
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would attack ships, they would detain ships. It would be
a there would be no Iran left. A lasting war
with no off ramp is what that would be. So
oil prices have now dipped below their level before the
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hostilities between Israel and Iran began a week ago. That
was when crude was at about sixty eight. But it's
now a little bit. Well, it's going back and forth now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But that is a strange reaction. Historically, any time something
heats up in the Middle East, oil prices would go up.
So for them to go down and significantly down multiple
percentage points, is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
They said that even a limited destruction, a limited disruption,
would severely impact global supply. In a worst case scenario,
prices could spike to one hundred and thirty dollars per barrel.
Last time that happened was in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The President, by the way, is calling on other oil
producing economies, not just in the Middle East, but our economy,
for example, to pump up more oil as the crude
prices are going to be volatile. Even there down now,
but we have to admit that they're going to be
volatile and could jump back up. Trump is urging up production.
He wrote on truth Social to the Department of Energy. Drill, baby, drill,
(27:25):
all caps and I mean now, multiple exclamation points, and
then added in all caps, everyone keep oil prices down.
I'm watching. You're playing right into the hands of the enemy.
Don't do it. This would have been hours before Iran
launched its attacks on the Auto Daid air base there
and caught her about that. By the way, something is
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not making sense about the report that one missile may
have been targeting Iraq and Iraqi security officials says the
Iraqi had been informed by the United States that missiles
had been launched toward one of the bases that houses
US troops in western Iraq, but he said that missile
never arrived, no group ever claimed responsibility for any attack
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on the base, etc. The military officials spoke to the
AP on condition of anonymity, said the only confirmed attack
on a US base was the attack on the base
in Cutter.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yes, they say there's no known damage to the base.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, as of right now, Fox is reporting that there
were six missiles, six confirmed missiles over at caught Her
that were intercepted by missile defense systems. Blew those things
up well above the ground, so they would not have
fallen in any capacity to create very much damage. So
all of that stuff is still what's going on for
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what I mean at this point, we're talking about the
potential for there to be regime change, if that's in
fact what everybody's going for. Israel did something interesting in
that they hit a very notorious prison there in Iran, a.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Symbol of politics and the theocracy that remains.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Because a lot of the people inside, a lot of
the inmates at Evan Prison are considered political detainees. The
news agency in Iran reported the situation on the ground
was under control after this thing, but CCTV that has
made its way around the world already showed an explosion
at one of the gates, and I mean not a
baby explosion. This thing blew a giant iron gate across
(29:36):
the street. First responders carried a casualty. They're searching for
survivors under a flattened building. Israel's Defense minister said it
was hitting regime targets and agencies of government repression throughout Tehran,
the capital city, including that Evan prison. They also struck
access routes to the uranium and Richmond plant in FDOH,
(29:58):
south of Tehran, a day after the bunker buster bombs
went through and created some amount of damage. We don't
know exactly how much at those three different nuclear sites.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll stay on top of all the developments in real
time right here on Gary and Shannon. There's also other
things going on when we come back. We'll get you
caught up on that. Not insignificant stories that happened over
the weekend, like the security guard that seems to have
stopped a mass shooting at a church in Michigan. Just
complete horror show on Lake Tahoe where six people dead
(30:29):
after that capsized boat in the storm there. So we'll
have all of the things to get you caught up
when we come back right here on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
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of this Iranian attack against a US base and cutter.
In fact, we will waste no time getting right to it.
We'll start with swamp watch. Do we not have that?
(00:24):
We stopped doing that over the weekend. Well, I think
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keep going, I'll just get right to it.
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Means I'm a cheat and a liar and when I'm
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Speaker 4 (00:53):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
The other side never quits, so.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So that is how you train the swat.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You know, Americans have always been going at president.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Why have the people voted for you with not swap watch?
They're all cannoid.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Okay, So oil prices, as we mentioned, are dropping after
what's being now called Iran's restrained retaliation against the US.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
The stocks by the way, I've.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Responded with a two hundred point jump in the Dow,
investors warning any more aggression from Iran, Israel or the
US could spook markets again.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
They do believe.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They, being the talking expert heads kind of what we've
been talking about, that this is an effort for Iran
to say face with its people and to stop any
sort of de escalation by just firing the same amount
of weapons that we used over the weekend with our attacks,
giving a heads up that they were going to attack
this base, which was an obvious target. Yes, but even
(02:03):
the heads up is a sign that they're willing to
stand down, so to speak, after this one symbolic retaliation.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The short medium range missiles that they used maybe some
of the last ones that they even have. You mentioned
that Iran, according to Reuters, and I think New York
Times is also reporting Iran informed the Trump administration about
the missile strikes on that Allu Daid Air base in
caught are hours ahead of the attacks, so the ability
(02:34):
to close the Katari airspace, but also to get Americans
out of harm's way in some capacity. According to the Pentagon,
no casualties reported. Iran fired short medium range missiles, but
no Iranian attack. Sorry, no Iranian missiles were able to
(02:54):
actually strike the ground. They in fact were shot down
by Katari air defense system.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Trump hold up.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
With his national security team, and we assume there will
be some sort of comments that come out of this meeting,
maybe based on the contents of that, certainly as a
response to what has happened with Iran and their actions
and what appears to be their new stance in all
of this.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Also, Tehran's air defense systems have been activated. According to
Iran's student news network, there are air aid sirens that
are apparently going on in Tehran, and Israel is believed
to be running yet another military operation in Iran, going
after the military targets that they have yet to clean up.
(03:44):
There is an interesting aspect in all of this. Obviously,
President Trump has said it's time for peace with Iran.
The question is it's not necessarily up to him. All
of the other Arab states in that area have a
huge say in how this thing goes from this point forward.
How badly has the US and Israel damaged the nuclear capabilities?
(04:08):
Will Iran choose to retaliate? Obviously they have, but Trump
has pledged that he is not going to get involved
in foreign wars. He's also said he's not going to
allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Those two things
kind of crossed each other, shall we say, over the
weekend Iran. Israel has its own agenda which goes beyond
(04:33):
just stopping nuclear proliferation by Iran. They want to eliminate
the ballistic missile program. They would love to see regime change,
although they're not necessarily going to call for it outwardly.
Benjamin Netanyah, who said they are very close to achieving
what they set out to achieve, which is basically to
cut off every head that pops up of the Iranian regime.
(04:56):
They have not yet gone after the Ayatola, but of
course we know as of last week that they at
least had a plan to do so. A de escalation
would happen when both sides want it, it can happen soon,
according to Phillips O'Brien as, a professor of strategic studies
in Scotland, said, it could happen soon if Israel believes
it has achieved what it wanted and the Iranians believe
(05:16):
that further fighting imperils their ability to stay in power.
So not just Trump wanting something, There's a lot of
other players in this game.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, the major players. Benjamin Netan Yahoo, that's what they want.
Israeli prime minister has made a lot of hay out
of what happened to his country on October seventh, and
they have a very long standing relationship, the president and
the prime minister.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Trump said Saturday about net Yahoo as he addressed the
nation for the first time since the strikes. We worked
as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before.
He could have another act as a NFL coach right
with the.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Way he speaks.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Their work together included not just the Middle East electoral politics.
Look no further than the spring of twenty twenty. Net Yahoo,
facing that indictment, was on the brink of losing an election,
and Trumpet sent some of his most favorite hired guns
to manage things. Susie Wiles, one of them now the
(06:23):
White House Chief of Staff. Trump sent her over Corey Lewandowski,
one of his long standing polsters, by the guy by
the name of Tony, Tony Fabrizio. Do you think Tony
just specializes in polls or maybe some other things.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He's putting people in trunks.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean they're friends. They're friends, and they want to
they want to work together, and they have. They have
both gathered strength together in the year, in the past decade.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, we'll see where this goes. We'll come back and
we'll reiterate what we know about the attacks that have
taken place on American military basis in the Middle East,
at least the Alo Dad Air Base there in cottr
and potentially another base in Iraq as well. More details
continue to come in. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
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Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's not just us waiting to hear from President Trump
and what he'll say about Iran's attack on the US
base and cutter, but his first social media post since
the strikes is a complaint about the media about his
statement that Iran's nuclear sites were totally obliterated. He called CNN,
ABC and NBC sleeves bags.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
But he can't possibly know that they were obliterated. It
looked like it was a successful targeted strike. But we just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What are you going to say the bombs? I mean,
the intelligence that he has that we have it did
what they did what they were supposed to know.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They went where they were supposed to be right, Oh right, right,
you're right, So that part of it's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Weas to say they didn't move the stuff, although we
would have known if they.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Moved as the stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, again, there are images that show sixteen nineteen trucks
or whatever it is, that in the days leading up
to this parked outside these facilities. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know what I know?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What do you know?
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different spaces in the Middle East to have shut down
their airspace. Caught her obviously shut down their airspace when
they knew that Iranian missiles were going to be headed
(09:10):
that way. Kuwait has apparently shut down airspace. Bahrain has
also shut down airspace because of the potential for okay,
so a potential for there to be more missiles. And
here's what we're talking about. So we knew that there
were fourteen mops that were dropped on these different nuclear
facilities on Saturday afternoon our time, but there were also
(09:33):
thirty Tomahawk missiles that were launched into at least one
of the facilities. So if Iran was saying they're going
to launch as many missiles as we did, do they
mean they're going to launch fourteen bombs or total number
of missiles, total number of toys deployed. So if that's
the case, then there's still some missiles that could be
coming in, which is why some of these other places
(09:55):
are still shutting down their airspace.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
However, just now, moments ago, I should say, all clear
sirens were sounded in Bahrain to announce the.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
End of danger.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
The people who live there got mobile alerts on their
phones from the Ministry of Interior and the sirens were sounded.
So it seems like the feeling is is Aron fired
back and that's all that they intend to do or
all they can do, and that's what they have.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
That is really their only option.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They're not armed to take us on or to fire
back at Israel.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
They're just not.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They are wounded severely in the nuclear department, the regime
is wounded severely in the pr department. They had to
do something like we've been using the term to save face,
but now to retain the regime. If that's what the
leadership wants to do, or that's obviously the leadership, then
(10:55):
they've got to come to the negotiating table or I
don't even know if you can call it that. What
are they to go siating with at this point? Hey,
if Trump thinks that he has obliterated all of their weapons.
Why not run with that ball straight into the end zone.
Why not come to the table with Trump and be like,
you got us, you got all our stuff. Trump gets
to take a victory lap, Israel gets to appear all powerful,
(11:17):
and secretly, Iran gets to keep building their nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You used a word there that I'm not sure is
the right word. You said, leadership. Who's left outside of
the supreme leader?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
This supreme leader in a circle?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But how much power do those guys? I mean, clearly
they're in charge.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But oh it's very but how much? Very precarious, very precarious.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, because I.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Mean there have been a lot of I did a
little research in the breaks. There have been a number
of uprisings and protests in recent years by the people of.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Iran that want more Western.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Conditions, conditions, and they're always put down by that Republican Guard.
But the Republican Guard has been completely decimated. The leadership
has been taken out. Every time somebody gets promoted, they
have about twelve hours to enjoy their new title before
they become a fine pink mist. Saudi Arabia, by the way,
has condemned the Iranian attack against the US military base
(12:15):
and kat Her, and again, Saudi Arabia, as strict as
it is when it comes to Islamic faith, is pretty
moderate in terms of politics and is not they're not
faking it when they are happy that Iran is not
(12:37):
going to be a nuclear power anytime soon. The Foreign
Ministry of Saudi Arabia described the Iranian attack on the
military base in Katar is a violation of international law
and said it affirmed its full support for kught Her.
Not a giant surprise, considering, like I said, that's kind
of the way we're going to see these other Arab
states react to the Israeli attacks on Iran and now
(12:58):
the American attack on Iran. You also mentioned the whole
Vladimir Putin issue. Vladimir Putin is saying that this attack,
the American attack on the Irani nuclear sites, was unjustified
and says that this pushes the world towards great danger,
and he says that he's going to try to help
the Iranian people in some way. President Trump and Israel
(13:22):
have talked about the killing of Supreme Leader Iatola Ali
Khamane and about regime change steps that Russia says would
be would have dire consequences, put that whole region into
a potential major war. Putin in fact shook hands with
is Iran's foreign minister in the Kremlin a wrong side
(13:45):
alongside the Russian Foreign Minister, the Kremlin Foreign Aid the
head of Russia's gru military intelligence agency. Putin did say,
the absolute, unprovoked aggression against Iran has no basis and
no justification. For our part, this is for Russian's part.
We are making efforts to assist the Iranian people. The
(14:07):
Foreign Minister for Iran was in Moscow to deliver hand
deliver a letter asking for more help from Russia. No
confirmation of that from Moscow, although the Foreign Minister passed
on best wishes from the Supreme Leader and President. And
they've talked about the strategic partnership that Russia supposedly had
with Iran. They bought or signed, i should say, a
(14:29):
twenty year strategic partnership deal earlier this year when they
were doing a weapons deal. When he was asked if
Iran had requested military help, the Foreign Minister said, we
interact with Iran in many areas. It's clear that it
would be irresponsible, irresponsible for me to disclose the content
of the contacts that are being conducted, including today, given
all the circumstances, but that he said, our strategic partnership
(14:51):
with Iran is unbreakable.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, we are going to effort to get as many
experts as we can possibly talk to on the matter.
What kind of stabilization we could be looking at hoping
for there with with the Middle East, with iron in
Israel and all of the.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Ripples that that causes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know, you look at Saudi Arabia trying to bolster
or to the two countries becoming more friendly in recent years.
What that does to that balance, How it's all going
to avoid, how it's all going to play into our
oil prices. Not to make it about us, but it
is a question that's on the table. Coming up next,
we're going to be talking to Tracy Walder, who is
(15:33):
a former CIA officer, FBI special a special agent, worked
as staff operations officer at the CIA as well.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
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Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh my, I touch to my mom over the weekend
and she happened to be listening to our weekend podcast.
And again, I don't know why she keeps stumbling upon
the not Safe for Air version of.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
The show, like she's never heard you say.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's like it's almost it's like she's seeking out the
dirtiest parts of the show.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
And consuming them.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that sounds like Diane. Yeah, you can always go
back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
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Speaker 2 (16:17):
As the world was crumbling around us, the Pentagon says
that as of right now, they are not tracking any
other attacks on American basis in the Middle East. Of course,
we know that Iran did launch missiles towards the al
Udaide Air base and cut her. As of this point,
the Katari air defenses were able to knock out all
of the incoming missiles and no reports of any damage
(16:40):
or injuries or anything as a result of those.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
This would be best case scenario. Iran gets to retaliate
no casualties. They are willing because they have no other
choice to come to some sort of negotiating table. They
leave their midst off the Northern Stretch to the Strait
of Hormuze, which was one of the concerns Right now.
(17:04):
Stocks are rising, oil prices tumbling on the growing hopes
that Iran will not disrupt what is the global flow
of crude flowing through that through that straight Joining.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Us to talk more about all of this and try
to give us some perspective on it, is National Security
contributor to News Nation Tracy Walder spent some time, of course,
in law enforcement and the intelligence communities, and Tracy, if
you could, let's start with the most recent news first,
and that is that Iran launched a handful of missiles
(17:37):
towards ali Date Airbase in Katar, not successfully in terms
of causing no injuries and damage that we know of,
but is still able to tell its people that they
struck the heart of the dragon or whatever flowery terms
they're going to use. Is this enough? Is this the
(17:57):
end of their retaliation?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Do you think, well, thank you so much for having
me in my opinion, No, I mean I think assumed
that they were going to do this. Planes were removed
last week quite frankly from Alu Day, so I think
we knew that this was going to happen. This is
very similar to how Iran retaliated after the killing of
Custom Foul Money a few years back. However, Iran wasn't
(18:24):
done with just attacking that airbase. They did, if folks remember,
try to unsuccessfully as fascinate President Trump and Ambassador Bolton,
and then I do think at this point in time
that we could be potentially looking at something here in
the homeland. I don't think that they're done.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
That's what we've been talking about, Tracy.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's kind of the only standing option, left standing option
for Iran is to carry out terrorism abroad. The FBI
has been, as they should be, very seek about this
and about their efforts to kind of dig into what
cells have existed.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Or may emerge here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yes, I completely agree with you, and rightly so. Obviously
security has been heightened. I think that that will take
two forms in me and I think the first, and
I've talked about this before is cyber Eran. I wouldn't
say that they're the best in the world at cyber,
but they are quite capable at cyber and cyber capabilities.
We best have to remember their allies of China, who
(19:32):
really are the best at cyber, and so they have
launched successful cyber attacks here in the US. In twenty sixteen,
a massive denial of service attack to JP Morgan Chase
Bank of America twenty twenty two, they hacked Boston Children's Hospital,
and they have been launching cyber attacks on Israel lately.
It's just as early a few days ago actually, all
(19:55):
in their critical infrastructure. So I think a cyber attack
is a very real possible. But then I know we've
also discussed sleeper cells. I'm not a fan of that term.
They're terrorists that they are, and I think those are
individuals that are lone wolves, if you will, that have
really identified or sympathized with the current regime in Iran
(20:16):
that are just sort of, you know, waiting for a
signal essentially to wake up.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That was going to be the question I had was
about sleeper sales and the potential for them to be
here in the United States. How how real is that threat?
It seems like it's a movie plot, but is it
an actual thing that we need to worry about.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, that's I appreciate that question. That's why I don't
like that term sleeper cell, because I do think it's
obviously from the movies. As you mentioned, I think we
have to change our way of thinking in terms of
how we look at attacks and terrorists attacks, you know,
the days of nine to eleven or not. It's not
the same, right if we look at September eleventh, those
individuals came here right from other countries, lived here for
(20:57):
a bit, and waited for a signal to attack. I
feel that individuals are probably already here and maybe homegrown,
because I think that's really what we're seeing here in
the US, is this kind of resurgence or a recurrence
of homegrown terrorists. And in my opinion, I think that's
more where it's going to come from rather than sort
(21:17):
of outside coming here, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
We're talking to Tracy Walder.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
She is a former staff operations officer at CIA's counter
Terrorism Center, special agent here in Los Angeles at the FBI.
I was just reading your bio and it piqued my interests.
You specialized in Chinese counterintelligence operations. Where's China been in
all this? What's their influence in the conversation globally?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, that's a great question. I'm also glad you asked
that as well. I don't think there's enough discussion. I
think Chinna, Andy Ron, if folks know our allies, gosh,
ninety percent of the goods that are shipped through the
strait of horror. Moves that I know you were talking
about early or are from China, and China consumes about
forty five percent of their oil. So I think, in
my opinion, keeping that straight up horrormus open right now
(22:09):
is very critical to China, and I think as a result,
we are probably leveraging that to keep that straight open.
We are trying to, you know, leverage whatever diplomatic relationship
we have to keep that open. So I think China
has condemned US, you know, bombing those nuclear facilities, but
I think they're doing it in sort of a soft way,
(22:30):
if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I also had a question about Saudi Arabia. They came
out with the statement that condemned the Iranian attack on Cotter,
the missiles that came down. Saudi Arabia is probably one
of the happier countries now that Iran has been punched
back in terms of their nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
One hundred percent. I could not agree with you more.
You know, I think that they are probably listen, they're
trying not to be too joyful. Obviously that does not
look good from a diplomatic perspective to celebrate that, But
I absolutely think that they probably feel that they have
been victorious, quite frankly in that region, because them in
Iran have really gone at it for quite some time,
(23:11):
and so I do think that they are probably quite
happy about this.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Her name is Tracy Walder. If you like Homeland, by
the way, you will love Tracy's book. It's called The
Unexpected Spy. It is so good. It's about her path
really from USC into the CIA to the FBI, her
secret life as a spy taking down terrorists.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Very good stuff. Tracy, thanks for your time today, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
A lot going on. We will continue to bring you updates.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
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Speaker 5 (23:48):
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. You have no manners, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
People think they're entitled to a lot of information. I'll
tell you that, Okay, listen. Oil prices are down. There
was a concern that any sort of conflagration in the
Middle East would drive oil prices higher, and that has
not been the case. Yesterday we saw futures actually decrease,
and right now oil is below seventy dollars.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
A bet eight fifty six. It is seven percentage drop.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
This is I mean this, I'm so much weirdness about this.
So the threat was that Iran's parliament had apparently voted
to close down the Straight of Horror moves. And I
don't know if the Iranian the Supreme Leader is going
to have the ultimate say on that sort of a thing,
but if they did, that's twenty percent of the daily
oil supply for the world that goes through the Straight
(24:46):
of Horror moves. And the concern was that was going
to boost prices.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes, so just to play a quick game of catch
up for all of US oil prices did jump last
night four percent shortly after the start of trading, but
retreat quickly because people in the Nose speculated that Iran
was very unlikely to close its northern border there or
the Strait of Hormuz. As we mentioned, that's what brings
(25:12):
the crew it into global markets. Iran said today that
it had launched this attack, and as soon as that happened,
and Ron came out and said, we use the same
amount of toys you did, and all signs were that
Iran wanted this to just de escalate. Now that's when
(25:34):
you saw the huge drop in oil prices. Ships that
use the Strait of Hormuz carry roughly twenty percent of
the world's daily supply of oil. If they chose to
close it down or control of it, they would they
(25:55):
would attack ships, they would detain ships. It would be
a there would be no Iran left. A lasting war
with no off ramp is what that would be. So
oil prices have now dipped below their level before the
(26:19):
hostilities between Israel and Iran began a week ago. That
was when crude was at about sixty eight. But it's
now a little bit. Well, it's going back and forth now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But that is a strange reaction. Historically, any time something
heats up in the Middle East, oil prices would go up.
So for them to go down and significantly down multiple
percentage points, is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
They said that even a limited destruction, a limited disruption,
would severely impact global supply. In a worst case scenario,
prices could spike to one hundred and thirty dollars per barrel.
Last time that happened was in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The President, by the way, is calling on other oil
producing economies, not just in the Middle East, but our economy,
for example, to pump up more oil as the crude
prices are going to be volatile. Even there down now,
but we have to admit that they're going to be
volatile and could jump back up. Trump is urging up production.
He wrote on truth Social to the Department of Energy. Drill, baby, drill,
(27:25):
all caps and I mean now, multiple exclamation points, and
then added in all caps, everyone keep oil prices down.
I'm watching. You're playing right into the hands of the enemy.
Don't do it. This would have been hours before Iran
launched its attacks on the Auto Daid air base there
and caught her about that. By the way, something is
(27:49):
not making sense about the report that one missile may
have been targeting Iraq and Iraqi security officials says the
Iraqi had been informed by the United States that missiles
had been launched toward one of the bases that houses
US troops in western Iraq, but he said that missile
never arrived, no group ever claimed responsibility for any attack
(28:12):
on the base, etc. The military officials spoke to the
AP on condition of anonymity, said the only confirmed attack
on a US base was the attack on the base
in Cutter.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yes, they say there's no known damage to the base.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, as of right now, Fox is reporting that there
were six missiles, six confirmed missiles over at caught Her
that were intercepted by missile defense systems. Blew those things
up well above the ground, so they would not have
fallen in any capacity to create very much damage. So
all of that stuff is still what's going on for
(28:52):
what I mean at this point, we're talking about the
potential for there to be regime change, if that's in
fact what everybody's going for. Israel did something interesting in
that they hit a very notorious prison there in Iran, a.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Symbol of politics and the theocracy that remains.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Because a lot of the people inside, a lot of
the inmates at Evan Prison are considered political detainees. The
news agency in Iran reported the situation on the ground
was under control after this thing, but CCTV that has
made its way around the world already showed an explosion
at one of the gates, and I mean not a
baby explosion. This thing blew a giant iron gate across
(29:36):
the street. First responders carried a casualty. They're searching for
survivors under a flattened building. Israel's Defense minister said it
was hitting regime targets and agencies of government repression throughout Tehran,
the capital city, including that Evan prison. They also struck
access routes to the uranium and Richmond plant in FDOH,
(29:58):
south of Tehran, a day after the bunker buster bombs
went through and created some amount of damage. We don't
know exactly how much at those three different nuclear sites.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll stay on top of all the developments in real
time right here on Gary and Shannon. There's also other
things going on when we come back. We'll get you
caught up on that. Not insignificant stories that happened over
the weekend, like the security guard that seems to have
stopped a mass shooting at a church in Michigan. Just
complete horror show on Lake Tahoe where six people dead
(30:29):
after that capsized boat in the storm there. So we'll
have all of the things to get you caught up
when we come back right here on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
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