July 18, 2025 • 41 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – Trump plans to sue the Wall Street Journal and has instructed Bondi to unseal materials related to Epstein. The murderer of an ‘American Idol’ executive served six months in jail after attacking his family with a knife, but all charges were dropped. A Los Angeles woman faked a kidnapping for immigration purposes as part of a scheme to collect donations, according to federal charges. LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE: An explosion at the LA County Sheriff's Department facility has resulted in the deaths of three deputies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Three deputies killed in an explosion
at the La County Sheriff's Department training Center. We are
awaiting a press conference to give us more details. There
are so few at this point we do know what
happened before seven point thirty this morning. We will take
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you alive there when the press conference begins, but there
is a lot of news to cover elsewhere, and we
kick it off with an eye on Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Here we got.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The other side never quits.
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What faw I'm not going anywhere.
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So that is how you train the swat.
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I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
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not stupid.
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Say what you will about President Trump and his relationship
with the media. Does he hate it or does he
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love it? Or is it something of both? I would
believe it's something of both. He is somebody who has
been a master of manipulating the media, of using the
media to brand himself, his family, his name for decades.
He is very smart with the way he uses reporters,
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goes after reporters, holds things over their heads. He knows
all about how powerful the media in America is. And
when we heard yesterday about this Wall Street Journal report
and how it was going to expose he wrote in
Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth Birthday album, the initial response was, Oh
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my goodness, Trump is going to go nuts, and he did.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal right before
this article came out, Trump denied writing the letter to Epstein.
In his fiftieth birthday album, he said, this is not me.
If this is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall
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Street Journal story. I don't draw pictures of women. It's
not my language, it's not my words, and I'm suing.
He told the Wall Street Journal and everybody else he
was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article.
He was pissed, or was he? Because the only thing
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this Wall Street Journal article has done has kind of
brought his people back to him, because this is a popular,
familiar trope of the media is out to get me.
The media is crooked, and you can't trust them because
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they're in bed with all the democratic power elites. Can't
trust them. And then they go and they publish this,
and then suddenly they're thinking to themselves. The Trump bas
is thinking to themselves, well, I don't want to be
on the side of the Wall Street Journal. I don't know.
This may have been a very clever thing that Trump did,
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that said, go ahead, publish this. See my popularity rise
back up amongst my base, because the last thing that
his base wants is the media refreshing its attacks on Trump.
They don't want that. All they want to know is
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who was Jeffrey Epstein running around within democratic power circles?
Release those names and here the Wall Street Journal is
going after Trump, unearthing this letter from twenty two years ago.
Oh my gosh, it's another witch hunt. It's the whole
thing all over again. So this may be a lifeline.
The Wall Street Journal may be throwing a lifeline to
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President Trump here because it was not looking good. Now.
I don't know. People forget about this Wall Street Journal report.
And I'll just say this if you missed us talking
about it earlier. He wrote a letter. Everybody. A lot
of people wrote letters to Jeffrey Epstein for his fiftieth birthday.
Gallaine Maxwell put it together, like I said, it was
from two thousand and three. She went to his family
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and friends and said, let's write something funny, a poem,
a miss of something, and we'll put it in this
leatherbound book and give it to Jeffrey and I'll have
it and it'll be fun for him to look at
as the years go by. This was before he was
ever in trouble with the law. This is back when
the parties at the Private Islands. Everything was cope esthetic.
Nobody was being charged with a prostitution of underage girls
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or anything like that. That wouldn't come out for Epstein,
and another five years his jail time in Florida. Another
five years him having to register as a sex offender.
That wasn't on the radar at this point. So all
these people Trump included, Alan Dershowitz, Harvard economist, a lot
of big names, Leslie Wexner, they all wrote Epstein a
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letter for his fiftieth or a poem or something cute,
and it was all put in this book after this,
Shortly after this, I think around the time he was arrested,
everyone took off from his social circle. But it is clever,
isn't it, Because you know what I'm not seeing a
lot of is the heightened fervor from the base today
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about the Jeffrey Epstein files. It may also be because
Trump has directed the Department of Justice to release the
grand jury testimony. He said late yesterday that the Justice
Department and pay BONDI should seek the release of all
the pertinent grand jury testimony in the sex trafficking case
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against Jeffrey Epstein. Now we don't know which records he's
referring to. This was in a truth Social post. Federal
grand jury testimony is by law confidential, and Trump said
in the post that the release is subject to court approval. Now,
the records from a state grand jury that investigated Epstein
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back in two thousand and six were released last year
by a Florida judge. But this announcement came minutes after
this Wall Street Journal story surfaced and Trump said, I'm
going to sue. He says he will be suing the
Wall Street Journal, News Corp, Murdoch, the whole bit. The
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Trump administate administration, if you're just playing catch up, earlier
this month, announced it would not release the files for
from the case against Epstein, despite the fact that Pam
Bondi back in February said she had these files, clientless
everything on her desk, and that was a directive from
Trump to dig into this and explode and expose it.
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It's what he ran on and everyone thought that this
was going to be forthcoming with his administration this second
time around. But something happened where Trump and Pam Bondi
decided not to They said, there's nothing there, there is
no client list, and the decision was made for some reason. Anyway,
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this is the latest chapter hopefully turning the base back,
the hate of the base back towards the media and
away from any sort of cover up of what's in
the Epstein files.
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all of the Gossip Magazine's New York Post US Weekly
all want to know about this CEO's wife. Leave the
wife alone. It's like Megan Carigan Byron five things to know.
Leave her alone for crying out loud. This was a
CEO of astronomer who is the social media anti darling,
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after being caught with his mistress, who is his HR
director at the Coldplay concert. The memes are great. The
memes are great though. Okay, so we talked about this
awful home invasion murder of the American Idol executive Robin
Kay and her husband. We now are hearing more about
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who carried this out. We knew that this was a
twenty two year old man who lived nearby and that
he did have a criminal background. What we knew going
into today was that this executive, Robin Kay, and her
husband may have been the victims of a break in
back in May of this year, and that after that
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they look seriously into some private security they were involved
in neighborhood Crime Watch. There had been other recent break
ins in the Encino area. They were very much a
part of the Hey LAPD. We don't want this happening anymore.
When this guy was able to get into the home
through an unlocked door somewhere on the home and these
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two come back from wherever they were husband and wife,
and an altercation ensues and he shoots and kills them.
That was last week. They weren't found. The bodies weren't
found until Monday. This twenty two year old was previously
accused of pulling a knife on his stepfather and threatening
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his own mother and sister, but apparently only spent six
months in custody before his charges were dismissed. His name's
Raymond Bouderian, twenty two, like I said, and threatened his
stepfather with a blade just in November twenty twenty three.
That was the first in a series of busts in
just eight months. He was arrested in February of that
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year for misdemeanor battery, threatening his mother and sister, and
then again in June of this year. Details of that
arrest are unclear at this point. He was released the
same day as his arrests. In November and February, but
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did spend six months in jail for whatever happened in June,
and then all the charges against him were dropped, which
is the case sometimes when all of your bad behavior
is against family members. Right, he was declared mentally incompetent,
that can be another reason, and placed on a conservatorship.
(12:02):
So a judge saying, all right, you've got this crazy
family member who threatened to kill you. He's your pro Oh, okay,
you'll accept responsibility for him being your problem. All right,
then he's your problem, and he was let go. Just
seven months later, he's picked up for the murder of
Robin Ka and her husband, Thomas de Luca, after breaking
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into their home in Encino. They're seventy years old. By
the way. Legal experts say that the reason the charges
were dropped were not just because he was put into
a conservatorship and deemed his family's problem, but that he
may have qualified for. California's Mental Health Diversion Program gives
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people with verified mental illnesses the opportunity to complete a
treatment program in lieu of prison time that walk away
scot free without charges, convictions, or any monitoring or probation
of any kind. What the hell you're gonna pull a
knife on someone and threaten people? I don't care if
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they're in your own family. You pull a knife on someone,
and then you go through some sort of program, and
then you're done. You raise a red flag to the
police and everybody else that you held a knife to
someone's throat, and they go, okay, well, talk, We'll put
you in a program, talk about feelings in your rough
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childhood or what have you. And then and then we're
just gonna forget about you. If you raise your hand,
which is a red flag in this case of pulling
a knife on someone and putting it to their throat,
you get to be monitored for at least, in my opinion,
eighteen to twenty four months after said treatment program has expired.
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Just a little how do you do just a once
a month check in? How do you do you still
a crazy ass a pull knives on people? Maybe it's
a check in on the family. Hey, remember the crazy
ass that you have under your roof that pulled a
knife on y'all. How's that going? Just some sort of
a check in the fact that you are not charged.
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I get that if you're dealing with a mental health
episode conviction. I get that, but no monitoring. I do
not get that. Every crime in California PS is eligible
for this program. Only accused murderers and rapists will not qualify. Well,
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that's nice. They did us a solid in keeping a
monitor on rapists and murderers. Kenneth Rosenfeld is specializing in
mental health and crime with his law firm, Rosenfeld Law Firm.
He says, I've gotten mental health diversion for clients for
attempted murder at least seven eight times. Now. Kenneth may
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hang his hat on that and advertise to his rich,
crazy people clients, but that's nothing to brag about. For me.
Attempted murder is just you messed it up. You messed
it up, and who's to say you're not going to
mess it up the next time? Terrifying. More questions are
coming out of this story about the American Idol executive,
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and you wonder, is it just because she had this
high profile job that we're spending so much time on it.
Of course it is. It's a home invasion in Encino
with somebody in the entertainment and industry. But it brings
up a couple problems Number one, the cops were called
out to this place on Thursday when there was a disturbance,
uncovered and saw nothing, and then left bodies weren't discovered
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until the following week. And then the second question is
what the hell is going on with this mental health
diversion program where no one keeps tabs on people who
try to kill other people. Those are two big problems
with this that will continue to talk about into the
next week.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The tragedy out of the La County Sheriff's Department headquarters
this morning seven thirty am is when three deputies were
killed by explosives that they may have been transporting. We
will get all the details, well, at least we'll get
some more details. How about that coming up in a
press conference that is set to begin. We've heard eleven
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forty five, we've heard noon, so anyway, we'll have it
here for you live as it happens. We do have
more information about all of the Epstein fervor. President Trump
today suggesting there is no smoking gun in the Jeffrey
Epstein files. He's trying to downplay the conspiracy theories that
has long animated his magabase in that there's something in
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these files that's going to show this rampant child pedophilia
wrongdoing that's redundant about the power elites in Washington, in
California and New York. The Obamas and the Clinton's names
have been implicated in these conspiracy theories, and he says
that there is no smoking gun. He went on truth
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Social and said, if there was a smoking gun on Epstein,
why didn't the Dems who controlled the files for four
years and had Comby in charge use it? Because they
had nothing. I think he's missing the point there that
the thought process among the base is that there's a
reason the Dems were hiding it, and it's because there's
so many Dems in the files, they believe. But we'll
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stay on top of that one as well. This is
a story from the file of people who belong directly
in Hell. Federal prosecutors have now charged a woman who
faked her own abduction by Ice agents in downtown LA
last month. They say that she carried out a well
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orchestrated conspiracy to elicit public sympathy and donations based on
her undocumented status. Like there aren't enough real stories of
people that need to deal with their life being offended. Wow.
Uriyana Calderown, forty one years old, of South Alay, has
been charged with conspiracy and making false statements to federal officers.
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She's looking at a prison term of up to five years.
Dangerous rhetoric that ICE agents are kidnapping illegal immigrants is
being recklessly peddled by politicians and echoed in the media
to inflame the public and discredit our agents. According to
Bill Asi, the US attorney there, it was June twenty
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fifth when Uriana's friends, family members, and activists gathered outside
a Jack in the Box downtown and they said that
this local mom had been kidnapped by the masked men
of ICE. A lawyer for the family told reporters that Uriyana,
who goes by Julie, had pulled into Jack in the
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Box to evade two trucks that had followed her down Alameda,
and as she did so, the lawyer said at this
press event, the trucks pulled in behind her and armed
men who did not identify themselves sprang out and took
her into custody. They say she was taken to a
parking lot near the Santa Cedra border, where she was
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pressured by ICE to sign self deportation paperwork. She claimed
her demands to see a judge or an attorney were ignored.
She was bundled into an unmarked vehicle taken to a
warehouse in an undisclosed location. The attorney says she was
given only water, denied access to showers, beds, or blankets.
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What a horror story problem is is it wasn't true. Now,
this press conference brought out the full dog and pony show.
Numerous immigrants rights groups showed up to support her, the
Immigrant Defender's Law Center, the Alliance for Californians for Community Empowerment.
They spoke about finding her in ICE's detainy locator system
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that contacting numerous breaches, contacting numerous breaches of the Department
of Homeland Security. They couldn't find her because she wasn't taken.
Her daughter started to go fundme page to raise money
because they said that the family couldn't find her mother.
She was taken by masked men in this unmarked vehicle.
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She was on her way to work and she was taken.
So the GoFundMe starts raking in the cash and apparently
it was all made up. Homeland security investigators began searching
for her over the Fourth of July weekend because they
see this ruse and they're like, what the hell, we
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don't have this woman. They tracked her down to a
parking lot of a shopping plaza in Bakersfield. Continued her story.
She continued to pedal her story. She was taken by
masked men. She was held in custody, but they went
through her cell phone records surveillance video that showed her
leaving that jack in the box that day. She also
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was able to doctor photos of her rescue, which made
it appear like she had been abused while in custody
of Ice, which she never was. Go fund me is
now pissed off. Go fund me says, you know, listen,
we've got zero tolerance for this. We removed it. The
money was refunded. The person that put this together has
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no access to the money. But my gosh, some people
have taken to calling nine to one one to report
a kidnapping that turned out to be an ICE operation.
LAPD chief Jim McDonald said that we will investigate these,
but we're not We can't interfere with federal agents. All right,
a special place in hell for somebody who says they
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were kidnapped by ice and warrant and are just living
their lives trying to raise money from people who feel
bad for them. Gary and Shannon will continue. We will
bring you live to the Sheriff's Department when they start
their press conference as well. So keep it right here,
don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty Sheriff Luna.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They're taking to the podium.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Being here one and your patients and waiting for us.
We've been very busy, as you can imagine over the
last several hours. I'll be the only one speaking today
and I'll be answering your questions after I speak. But
if you look around me, the team that I have,
that I'm surrounded by members of the board, my partner
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Jim McDonald from the LAPD, Tony MORONEYLA County Fire CHP.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I could go on and on, and i'llalk about some
of that as we go on.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So it is a somewhat of a beautiful day to
day weatherwise, but there's definitely a black cloud hanging over
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and our county family.
This morning, shortly after seven thirty am, an explosion occurred
at our Special Enforcement Bureau Arson Explosives Detail facility located
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in the one thousand block of Northeastern Avenue.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
On East Los Angeles, which is right behind this hill.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Tragically, they were three sworn members who were fatally killed
that were assigned to our Arson Explosives Detail. No other
department members were injured or transported to any hospitals. This is, unfortunately,
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the largest loss of life for us as the La
County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Since eighteen fifty seven. Between all three.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Sworn members, they had served our community proudly for seventy
four years.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And that's amongst all three of them.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Collectively nineteen years, twenty two years, and thirty three years.
And at this point we are not giving out their names.
One of the reasons it took me a while to
get out here. One of my priorities is the families
of our deputies, and I've met with several of them
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this morning. There are still others who are on their way.
There are others who have not been notified. The last
thing I want to do is then to turn on
the news and find out that way.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So thank you for respecting that.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
At this point, my second priority were our employees. Our
employees are hurting right now, members of our Special Enforcement Bureau,
other members of our ARSON detailed as well ARSON explosive detail.
In regards to the details of what happened, I'm going
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to give you what I have right now. There's a
lot more that we don't know than what we do know,
but our intent is to look at this from the
very beginning and figure out what is it exactly that
caused this tragic event. Currently, our homicide detectives are unseen
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and they are investigating the deaths that are being and
we are being assisted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation
who are investigating the post blast portion of this incident.
You have seen other vehicles other than FBI. You've seen
the ATF here. They will be assisting the FBI as well.
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I am very grateful to the Bob Squad of the
Los Angeles Police Department, and I mentioned Chief Jim McDonald
standing behind me here. They immediately came out to assist
after this explosion occurred, to render the devices safe and
just so all of you know they were just rendered
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safe within the last minutes right before we walked out here,
so it was still an active scene and what was
unstable and definitely a very active cuisine as we go forward.
At this time, we do not know the cause of
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the explosion. However, the civic area has been closed off
due to the ongoing investigation. We believe there is no
threat to this community. Actually I can tell you there
is no threat to this community. This is an isolated
incident and again no threats. We have road closures Eastern
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Boulevard between Blatcherd Street and a lot of drive and
again I do want to thank all of our local partners,
our local elected officials that are here to help us
get through this very difficult time. We have our Psychological
Services Bureau personnel on scene that are assisting our employees
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at this moment, along with Peter Counseling and Chaplain services.
And as I said earlier, I have met with two
of the three families thus far, and as you can imagine,
those were extremely challenging conversations. So anyways, ready for questions, what.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Type of explosives are we talking about? This is Pete
Demetrio always got the first question at a law enforcement
Those are all good.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Questions that Pete just asked.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Now that the investigation has started, now that the investigators
can actually get in to the scene that it was
just rendered safe, we will be able to answer for
all those questions.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Too early right now to be able to answer that.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Were there military grade style explosives he's asking, We.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Will know that, hopefully in the next couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Were they moving these explosives from one place to another?
Is the question?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
All these questions are really good questions, and they're the
questions that we have as well. The investigation is just
about to get started on all this, and these are
all the questions that we're going to want answers to
and we'll get them. But simply right now, I wanted
to get out here. I know all of you have
been waiting.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm giving you the information I have and we're not
there yet.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Thank you. Let's wait for the English.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And then we'll do the Spanish afterward, if that's okay. Earlier,
we had three fatalities of our employees, which I call heroes,
are very heroic and the work that they do. We
had no other injuries other than the three fatalities, and
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just so all of you know the members of this team.
I've heard over and over the word elite being used.
I think sometimes that term gets overused. But if you're
familiar with our Special Enforcement Bureau, they're the best of
the best, and the individuals who work are ore some
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explosives detail. They have years of training and these members
usually the average calls that they go to in dealing
with some very dangerous situations or items average about eleven
hundred per year. So these aren't people who don't do
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this very often. They are fantastic experts and unfortunately I
lost three of them today.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Sorry, I can't hear it, can't make it out. Gun
Sheriff Luna answering questions.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
There are questions, Pete, that we're going to get to.
So we need to go from.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A to Z to know exactly what's killed this morning.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That's why we have our partners here from the Federal
Bureau of Investigation that will be doing conducting the post blast.
There'll be a lot of details coming out there eventually
atf IS here to assist them.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
The National Response Team.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
These are individuals that have a lot of expertise in
what they do and again, all the questions being asked,
very good questions, but if I waited to get the
answers to those, I'd be here probably in two days.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And I'm just trying to get out here in front
of all of you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
The question is are we anticipating a procession for our
three heroic deputies who passed away, And the answer to
that is yes, there will be a procession. I don't
have any specific information on that, but it'll happen the
next several hours.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Another question about what nature explosives, and I don't think
you've answered that one as well.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't have the answers to those questions yet. And again,
getting out here, trying to be out here at this
time to inform all of you, our community to know
what we know at this time, was very important.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Again, all of you are amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You're asking very important questions, and we're going to get
the answers I think to, if not everything, to most
of them. But we just simply don't have that information
at this time. There is currently an investigation going on
to determine what happened from the very beginning to the end.
I know everybody wants answers. Please understand, we just rendered
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the scene safe. Within the last thirty minutes, the LAPD
bomb squad rendered the scene safe. We have to go
back investigate what happened from the very beginning, and we'll
get there.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Just not going to happen this soon.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I would be very irresponsible to try and answer a
lot of these questions without the information that I need
to positively give you facts, and I don't have the
facts at this point.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Eric.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
We understand that you're telling us that you can tell us,
and we understand we.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Got to wait by when roughly you think you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Can have another first companies.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
To tell us more information will through our Sheriff's Information Bureau.
We'll put something out in the next couple of hours
of when we would have more information. But I'm going
to tell you right now, based on my experience when
we're conducting these type of investigations, it doesn't take hours
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to get some of this information. It takes days and weeks.
We do not rush this investigation.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We want to make sure that we're extremely thorough. Ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We lost three lives and we want to make sure
we know what happened. We don't want to repeat for
this and again all The questions that are being asked
are very legitimate. There are other law enforcement agencies who
have bond techs, not only around the country, around the
world that want to know what happened here. So we
want to make sure that no one else repeat this, right,
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So thorough investigation will be done by multiple agencies and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We'll get back to you about it.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Sounds like everything is repeat questions about the incident. I
can't answer any of those right now because we don't
have those facts yet. So with that, thank you all,
and then we'll keep you updated on any progress on
anything else. Appreciate each and every one of you.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right there, Off you go Sheriff Robert Luna again
taking questions about the three again members of the Sheriff's
department who were killed this morning at the East LA
Sheriff's Training Center. And I'll just review what we heard
from the sheriff. As we predicted, we weren't going to
get a lot of information the first time that the
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sheriff gets behind the podium after a tragedy like this,
it's going to be the very basics, just to kind
of shut everybody up, stop any of the theories that
may rear their ugly heads online, if there is people,
if there are people in the area there Monterey Park, East,
LA who are worried, letting them know that there is
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no danger to the community. And that was the goal
of that press conference. And so what he laid out
for US Sheriff Robert Luna was that just after seven
point thirty is when that explosion happened at the Special
Enforcement Bureau there the grounds at the La County Sheriff's Department.
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He says three sworn members were killed. That these were
three members assigned to the Arson Explosives detail. At times,
the Sheriff's voice, and understandably so was shaking. The largest
loss of life, he said, for the LA Sheriff's Department
in one day here since eighteen fifty seven. Like I
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said earlier, these kinds of things don't happen, especially with
this kind of unit. I had said earlier, this is
truly the best of the best. I didn't use the
word eleait, but he says he's the word elite you
several times, and that it's overused from time to time,
and not in this case. You're not going to get
a group of finer trained men and women to handle
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these types of high risk situations, and you're gonna find
with the La County Sheriff's Department, you're just not. Among
the three people that were killed this morning, seventy four
years experience amongst them at the Sheriff's department. One had
nineteen years, one had twenty two, and one had thirty
three years. A sheriff, Robert Luna, did not give us
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any information about who these people were, did not give
out any names. He says, the reason it took me
a while to get there, to get to that podium,
to get to the scene, is because he has along
said that families are his priorities. It is his family
the La County Sheriff's Department, and that extends past the
badge to everyone that the people who wear the badge
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are connected to. So he spent the morning talking to
these three family members, these three families. Now, he said,
other family members connected to these three are on their
way to La to the homes, what have you. And
there are some that have not been able to be
notified yet, some family members. So he said, the last
thing I want, and I believe that all of us want,
(36:11):
is for somebody to turn on the news and find
out this way. This is a department, as I mentioned earlier,
that is hurting. It's not just that these were three
best of the best officers, technical specialists, but that they
were hurt during during this And I'm moving off the
(36:34):
term exercise, not that I had ever been on that
term exercise. As some people said it was a training
and said, we just don't know. We don't know if
this was training or not training. This could have been
an explosive that was recovered that they were trying to detonate.
We just don't know. But this is a specialty detail department.
And the sheriff even said at this point for him,
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there's a lot more that we don't know than we
do know and are going to look at it painstakingly,
so from the beginning about what caused this tragic event.
Homicide detectives are on scene. Yes, and I said earlier
that does not mean murder. That means that somebody died
and it wasn't a death that happened when it should
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have happened. It's a death that happens not via natural causes.
Somebody was killed unlawful or lawful. Homicide detectives are on
the scene of that of FBI is there. You've got
atf there. FBI, he said, is investigating the post blast
portion of the incident. I'm not sure what that it
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means entirely. LAPD rushed to the scene as well to
help render the scene safe, which took quite a bit
of time. The sheriff said, it was just moments before
he took to the podium that they were able to
render all the devices safe in that area, which leads
me to believe that there are a number of devices
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or who knows. I have no idea, I'm not trained,
but that it happened about seven thirty so eight three nine.
That's four and a half hours of LAPD LA Sheriff's
Department working to make sure that whatever else was up there,
whatever else they were dealing with in the area, that
everything was going to be copesthetic, that everything was safe.
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He said, it remained an active scene until they were
able to do so, that it was not stable. No
cause of the explosion, he said at this point that
he is aware of or that he has been told about. Obviously,
the area will be closed off as the investigation continues.
No threat to the community. There's a big takeaway there.
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Nobody thinks that this was planted explosives, This was not
This was an isolated incident, were his words. What kind
of explosives was the first question, of course that's been
on our mind. Where did the explosives come from? What
type of explosives? Were they military grade explosives? Which would
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play into the evidence that we have that they were powerful.
If you've got a patrol SUV twenty five yards away
and all the windows were blasted out of it, that
to me lends credence to the idea that these were
very powerful explosives. A lot of questions about these three.
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Were they moving them? Were they alone in moving them?
All the sheriff said was that these three were killed
by the explosives and the ensuing blast, and that nobody
else was taken to the hospital. He said, you know,
these are all good questions. I don't think he answered one.
I don't think Sheriff Robert Luna was able to answer one,
but he wanted to make sure and get out there
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to kind of calm down any fears that the community
would have. All good questions. He said that they are
going to take their time answering. He said that these
are the best of the best, as I mentioned years
of training. We went through each and every resume of
these three people, eighteen years, twenty two years, thirty three years.
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He said. It's not just you and us talking to
the reporters on the scene there that want answers. We've
got people around the country that want to know what
happened here. We've got bomb techs calling us saying what
the hell happened because it is some stark news that
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this would happen to the La County Sheriff's Department. There's
just that is a shocking report to get if you're
a bomb tech elsewhere in this country, and that this
happened with the La County sheriffs Department. So we will
stay on top of this bring you all of the details.
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on the iHeartRadio app. Three deputies killed in an explosion
at the La County Sheriff's Department training Center. We are
awaiting a press conference to give us more details. There
are so few at this point we do know what
happened before seven point thirty this morning. We will take
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you alive there when the press conference begins, but there
is a lot of news to cover elsewhere, and we
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love it? Or is it something of both? I would
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been a master of manipulating the media, of using the
media to brand himself, his family, his name for decades.
He is very smart with the way he uses reporters,
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goes after reporters, holds things over their heads. He knows
all about how powerful the media in America is. And
when we heard yesterday about this Wall Street Journal report
and how it was going to expose he wrote in
Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth Birthday album, the initial response was, Oh
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my goodness, Trump is going to go nuts, and he did.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal right before
this article came out, Trump denied writing the letter to Epstein.
In his fiftieth birthday album, he said, this is not me.
If this is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall
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Street Journal story. I don't draw pictures of women. It's
not my language, it's not my words, and I'm suing.
He told the Wall Street Journal and everybody else he
was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article.
He was pissed, or was he? Because the only thing
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this Wall Street Journal article has done has kind of
brought his people back to him, because this is a popular,
familiar trope of the media is out to get me.
The media is crooked, and you can't trust them because
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they're in bed with all the democratic power elites. Can't
trust them. And then they go and they publish this,
and then suddenly they're thinking to themselves. The Trump bas
is thinking to themselves, well, I don't want to be
on the side of the Wall Street Journal. I don't know.
This may have been a very clever thing that Trump did,
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that said, go ahead, publish this. See my popularity rise
back up amongst my base, because the last thing that
his base wants is the media refreshing its attacks on Trump.
They don't want that. All they want to know is
(03:52):
who was Jeffrey Epstein running around within democratic power circles?
Release those names and here the Wall Street Journal is
going after Trump, unearthing this letter from twenty two years ago.
Oh my gosh, it's another witch hunt. It's the whole
thing all over again. So this may be a lifeline.
The Wall Street Journal may be throwing a lifeline to
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President Trump here because it was not looking good. Now.
I don't know. People forget about this Wall Street Journal report.
And I'll just say this if you missed us talking
about it earlier. He wrote a letter. Everybody. A lot
of people wrote letters to Jeffrey Epstein for his fiftieth birthday.
Gallaine Maxwell put it together, like I said, it was
from two thousand and three. She went to his family
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and friends and said, let's write something funny, a poem,
a miss of something, and we'll put it in this
leatherbound book and give it to Jeffrey and I'll have
it and it'll be fun for him to look at
as the years go by. This was before he was
ever in trouble with the law. This is back when
the parties at the Private Islands. Everything was cope esthetic.
Nobody was being charged with a prostitution of underage girls
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or anything like that. That wouldn't come out for Epstein,
and another five years his jail time in Florida. Another
five years him having to register as a sex offender.
That wasn't on the radar at this point. So all
these people Trump included, Alan Dershowitz, Harvard economist, a lot
of big names, Leslie Wexner, they all wrote Epstein a
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letter for his fiftieth or a poem or something cute,
and it was all put in this book after this,
Shortly after this, I think around the time he was arrested,
everyone took off from his social circle. But it is clever,
isn't it, Because you know what I'm not seeing a
lot of is the heightened fervor from the base today
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about the Jeffrey Epstein files. It may also be because
Trump has directed the Department of Justice to release the
grand jury testimony. He said late yesterday that the Justice
Department and pay BONDI should seek the release of all
the pertinent grand jury testimony in the sex trafficking case
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against Jeffrey Epstein. Now we don't know which records he's
referring to. This was in a truth Social post. Federal
grand jury testimony is by law confidential, and Trump said
in the post that the release is subject to court approval. Now,
the records from a state grand jury that investigated Epstein
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back in two thousand and six were released last year
by a Florida judge. But this announcement came minutes after
this Wall Street Journal story surfaced and Trump said, I'm
going to sue. He says he will be suing the
Wall Street Journal, News Corp, Murdoch, the whole bit. The
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Trump administate administration, if you're just playing catch up, earlier
this month, announced it would not release the files for
from the case against Epstein, despite the fact that Pam
Bondi back in February said she had these files, clientless
everything on her desk, and that was a directive from
Trump to dig into this and explode and expose it.
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It's what he ran on and everyone thought that this
was going to be forthcoming with his administration this second
time around. But something happened where Trump and Pam Bondi
decided not to They said, there's nothing there, there is
no client list, and the decision was made for some reason. Anyway,
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this is the latest chapter hopefully turning the base back,
the hate of the base back towards the media and
away from any sort of cover up of what's in
the Epstein files.
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Leave her alone for crying out loud. This was a
CEO of astronomer who is the social media anti darling,
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after being caught with his mistress, who is his HR
director at the Coldplay concert. The memes are great. The
memes are great though. Okay, so we talked about this
awful home invasion murder of the American Idol executive Robin
Kay and her husband. We now are hearing more about
(09:51):
who carried this out. We knew that this was a
twenty two year old man who lived nearby and that
he did have a criminal background. What we knew going
into today was that this executive, Robin Kay, and her
husband may have been the victims of a break in
back in May of this year, and that after that
(10:11):
they look seriously into some private security they were involved
in neighborhood Crime Watch. There had been other recent break
ins in the Encino area. They were very much a
part of the Hey LAPD. We don't want this happening anymore.
When this guy was able to get into the home
through an unlocked door somewhere on the home and these
(10:35):
two come back from wherever they were husband and wife,
and an altercation ensues and he shoots and kills them.
That was last week. They weren't found. The bodies weren't
found until Monday. This twenty two year old was previously
accused of pulling a knife on his stepfather and threatening
(10:56):
his own mother and sister, but apparently only spent six
months in custody before his charges were dismissed. His name's
Raymond Bouderian, twenty two, like I said, and threatened his
stepfather with a blade just in November twenty twenty three.
That was the first in a series of busts in
just eight months. He was arrested in February of that
(11:21):
year for misdemeanor battery, threatening his mother and sister, and
then again in June of this year. Details of that
arrest are unclear at this point. He was released the
same day as his arrests. In November and February, but
(11:42):
did spend six months in jail for whatever happened in June,
and then all the charges against him were dropped, which
is the case sometimes when all of your bad behavior
is against family members. Right, he was declared mentally incompetent,
that can be another reason, and placed on a conservatorship.
(12:02):
So a judge saying, all right, you've got this crazy
family member who threatened to kill you. He's your pro Oh, okay,
you'll accept responsibility for him being your problem. All right,
then he's your problem, and he was let go. Just
seven months later, he's picked up for the murder of
Robin Ka and her husband, Thomas de Luca, after breaking
(12:25):
into their home in Encino. They're seventy years old. By
the way. Legal experts say that the reason the charges
were dropped were not just because he was put into
a conservatorship and deemed his family's problem, but that he
may have qualified for. California's Mental Health Diversion Program gives
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people with verified mental illnesses the opportunity to complete a
treatment program in lieu of prison time that walk away
scot free without charges, convictions, or any monitoring or probation
of any kind. What the hell you're gonna pull a
knife on someone and threaten people? I don't care if
(13:10):
they're in your own family. You pull a knife on someone,
and then you go through some sort of program, and
then you're done. You raise a red flag to the
police and everybody else that you held a knife to
someone's throat, and they go, okay, well, talk, We'll put
you in a program, talk about feelings in your rough
(13:32):
childhood or what have you. And then and then we're
just gonna forget about you. If you raise your hand,
which is a red flag in this case of pulling
a knife on someone and putting it to their throat,
you get to be monitored for at least, in my opinion,
eighteen to twenty four months after said treatment program has expired.
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Just a little how do you do just a once
a month check in? How do you do you still
a crazy ass a pull knives on people? Maybe it's
a check in on the family. Hey, remember the crazy
ass that you have under your roof that pulled a
knife on y'all. How's that going? Just some sort of
a check in the fact that you are not charged.
(14:15):
I get that if you're dealing with a mental health
episode conviction. I get that, but no monitoring. I do
not get that. Every crime in California PS is eligible
for this program. Only accused murderers and rapists will not qualify. Well,
(14:35):
that's nice. They did us a solid in keeping a
monitor on rapists and murderers. Kenneth Rosenfeld is specializing in
mental health and crime with his law firm, Rosenfeld Law Firm.
He says, I've gotten mental health diversion for clients for
attempted murder at least seven eight times. Now. Kenneth may
(14:57):
hang his hat on that and advertise to his rich,
crazy people clients, but that's nothing to brag about. For me.
Attempted murder is just you messed it up. You messed
it up, and who's to say you're not going to
mess it up the next time? Terrifying. More questions are
coming out of this story about the American Idol executive,
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and you wonder, is it just because she had this
high profile job that we're spending so much time on it.
Of course it is. It's a home invasion in Encino
with somebody in the entertainment and industry. But it brings
up a couple problems Number one, the cops were called
out to this place on Thursday when there was a disturbance,
uncovered and saw nothing, and then left bodies weren't discovered
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until the following week. And then the second question is
what the hell is going on with this mental health
diversion program where no one keeps tabs on people who
try to kill other people. Those are two big problems
with this that will continue to talk about into the
next week.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The tragedy out of the La County Sheriff's Department headquarters
this morning seven thirty am is when three deputies were
killed by explosives that they may have been transporting. We
will get all the details, well, at least we'll get
some more details. How about that coming up in a
press conference that is set to begin. We've heard eleven
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forty five, we've heard noon, so anyway, we'll have it
here for you live as it happens. We do have
more information about all of the Epstein fervor. President Trump
today suggesting there is no smoking gun in the Jeffrey
Epstein files. He's trying to downplay the conspiracy theories that
has long animated his magabase in that there's something in
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these files that's going to show this rampant child pedophilia
wrongdoing that's redundant about the power elites in Washington, in
California and New York. The Obamas and the Clinton's names
have been implicated in these conspiracy theories, and he says
that there is no smoking gun. He went on truth
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Social and said, if there was a smoking gun on Epstein,
why didn't the Dems who controlled the files for four
years and had Comby in charge use it? Because they
had nothing. I think he's missing the point there that
the thought process among the base is that there's a
reason the Dems were hiding it, and it's because there's
so many Dems in the files, they believe. But we'll
(17:34):
stay on top of that one as well. This is
a story from the file of people who belong directly
in Hell. Federal prosecutors have now charged a woman who
faked her own abduction by Ice agents in downtown LA
last month. They say that she carried out a well
(17:56):
orchestrated conspiracy to elicit public sympathy and donations based on
her undocumented status. Like there aren't enough real stories of
people that need to deal with their life being offended. Wow.
Uriyana Calderown, forty one years old, of South Alay, has
been charged with conspiracy and making false statements to federal officers.
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She's looking at a prison term of up to five years.
Dangerous rhetoric that ICE agents are kidnapping illegal immigrants is
being recklessly peddled by politicians and echoed in the media
to inflame the public and discredit our agents. According to
Bill Asi, the US attorney there, it was June twenty
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fifth when Uriana's friends, family members, and activists gathered outside
a Jack in the Box downtown and they said that
this local mom had been kidnapped by the masked men
of ICE. A lawyer for the family told reporters that Uriyana,
who goes by Julie, had pulled into Jack in the
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Box to evade two trucks that had followed her down Alameda,
and as she did so, the lawyer said at this
press event, the trucks pulled in behind her and armed
men who did not identify themselves sprang out and took
her into custody. They say she was taken to a
parking lot near the Santa Cedra border, where she was
(19:23):
pressured by ICE to sign self deportation paperwork. She claimed
her demands to see a judge or an attorney were ignored.
She was bundled into an unmarked vehicle taken to a
warehouse in an undisclosed location. The attorney says she was
given only water, denied access to showers, beds, or blankets.
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What a horror story problem is is it wasn't true. Now,
this press conference brought out the full dog and pony show.
Numerous immigrants rights groups showed up to support her, the
Immigrant Defender's Law Center, the Alliance for Californians for Community Empowerment.
They spoke about finding her in ICE's detainy locator system
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that contacting numerous breaches, contacting numerous breaches of the Department
of Homeland Security. They couldn't find her because she wasn't taken.
Her daughter started to go fundme page to raise money
because they said that the family couldn't find her mother.
She was taken by masked men in this unmarked vehicle.
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She was on her way to work and she was taken.
So the GoFundMe starts raking in the cash and apparently
it was all made up. Homeland security investigators began searching
for her over the Fourth of July weekend because they
see this ruse and they're like, what the hell, we
(20:53):
don't have this woman. They tracked her down to a
parking lot of a shopping plaza in Bakersfield. Continued her story.
She continued to pedal her story. She was taken by
masked men. She was held in custody, but they went
through her cell phone records surveillance video that showed her
leaving that jack in the box that day. She also
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was able to doctor photos of her rescue, which made
it appear like she had been abused while in custody
of Ice, which she never was. Go fund me is
now pissed off. Go fund me says, you know, listen,
we've got zero tolerance for this. We removed it. The
money was refunded. The person that put this together has
(21:39):
no access to the money. But my gosh, some people
have taken to calling nine to one one to report
a kidnapping that turned out to be an ICE operation.
LAPD chief Jim McDonald said that we will investigate these,
but we're not We can't interfere with federal agents. All right,
a special place in hell for somebody who says they
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were kidnapped by ice and warrant and are just living
their lives trying to raise money from people who feel
bad for them. Gary and Shannon will continue. We will
bring you live to the Sheriff's Department when they start
their press conference as well. So keep it right here,
don't go anywhere.
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You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty Sheriff Luna.
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They're taking to the podium.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Being here one and your patients and waiting for us.
We've been very busy, as you can imagine over the
last several hours. I'll be the only one speaking today
and I'll be answering your questions after I speak. But
if you look around me, the team that I have,
that I'm surrounded by members of the board, my partner
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Jim McDonald from the LAPD, Tony MORONEYLA County Fire CHP.
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I could go on and on, and i'llalk about some
of that as we go on.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So it is a somewhat of a beautiful day to
day weatherwise, but there's definitely a black cloud hanging over
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and our county family.
This morning, shortly after seven thirty am, an explosion occurred
at our Special Enforcement Bureau Arson Explosives Detail facility located
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in the one thousand block of Northeastern Avenue.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
On East Los Angeles, which is right behind this hill.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Tragically, they were three sworn members who were fatally killed
that were assigned to our Arson Explosives Detail. No other
department members were injured or transported to any hospitals. This is, unfortunately,
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the largest loss of life for us as the La
County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Since eighteen fifty seven. Between all three.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Sworn members, they had served our community proudly for seventy
four years.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And that's amongst all three of them.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Collectively nineteen years, twenty two years, and thirty three years.
And at this point we are not giving out their names.
One of the reasons it took me a while to
get out here. One of my priorities is the families
of our deputies, and I've met with several of them
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this morning. There are still others who are on their way.
There are others who have not been notified. The last
thing I want to do is then to turn on
the news and find out that way.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So thank you for respecting that.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
At this point, my second priority were our employees. Our
employees are hurting right now, members of our Special Enforcement Bureau,
other members of our ARSON detailed as well ARSON explosive detail.
In regards to the details of what happened, I'm going
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to give you what I have right now. There's a
lot more that we don't know than what we do know,
but our intent is to look at this from the
very beginning and figure out what is it exactly that
caused this tragic event. Currently, our homicide detectives are unseen
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and they are investigating the deaths that are being and
we are being assisted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation
who are investigating the post blast portion of this incident.
You have seen other vehicles other than FBI. You've seen
the ATF here. They will be assisting the FBI as well.
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I am very grateful to the Bob Squad of the
Los Angeles Police Department, and I mentioned Chief Jim McDonald
standing behind me here. They immediately came out to assist
after this explosion occurred, to render the devices safe and
just so all of you know they were just rendered
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safe within the last minutes right before we walked out here,
so it was still an active scene and what was
unstable and definitely a very active cuisine as we go forward.
At this time, we do not know the cause of
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the explosion. However, the civic area has been closed off
due to the ongoing investigation. We believe there is no
threat to this community. Actually I can tell you there
is no threat to this community. This is an isolated
incident and again no threats. We have road closures Eastern
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Boulevard between Blatcherd Street and a lot of drive and
again I do want to thank all of our local partners,
our local elected officials that are here to help us
get through this very difficult time. We have our Psychological
Services Bureau personnel on scene that are assisting our employees
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at this moment, along with Peter Counseling and Chaplain services.
And as I said earlier, I have met with two
of the three families thus far, and as you can imagine,
those were extremely challenging conversations. So anyways, ready for questions, what.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Type of explosives are we talking about? This is Pete
Demetrio always got the first question at a law enforcement
Those are all good.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Questions that Pete just asked.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Now that the investigation has started, now that the investigators
can actually get in to the scene that it was
just rendered safe, we will be able to answer for
all those questions.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Too early right now to be able to answer that.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Were there military grade style explosives he's asking, We.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Will know that, hopefully in the next couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Were they moving these explosives from one place to another?
Is the question?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
All these questions are really good questions, and they're the
questions that we have as well. The investigation is just
about to get started on all this, and these are
all the questions that we're going to want answers to
and we'll get them. But simply right now, I wanted
to get out here. I know all of you have
been waiting.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
For a while.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'm giving you the information I have and we're not
there yet.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Thank you. Let's wait for the English.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And then we'll do the Spanish afterward, if that's okay. Earlier,
we had three fatalities of our employees, which I call heroes,
are very heroic and the work that they do. We
had no other injuries other than the three fatalities, and
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just so all of you know the members of this team.
I've heard over and over the word elite being used.
I think sometimes that term gets overused. But if you're
familiar with our Special Enforcement Bureau, they're the best of
the best, and the individuals who work are ore some
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explosives detail. They have years of training and these members
usually the average calls that they go to in dealing
with some very dangerous situations or items average about eleven
hundred per year. So these aren't people who don't do
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this very often. They are fantastic experts and unfortunately I
lost three of them today.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Sorry, I can't hear it, can't make it out. Gun
Sheriff Luna answering questions.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
There are questions, Pete, that we're going to get to.
So we need to go from.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A to Z to know exactly what's killed this morning.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That's why we have our partners here from the Federal
Bureau of Investigation that will be doing conducting the post blast.
There'll be a lot of details coming out there eventually
atf IS here to assist them.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
The National Response Team.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
These are individuals that have a lot of expertise in
what they do and again, all the questions being asked,
very good questions, but if I waited to get the
answers to those, I'd be here probably in two days.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And I'm just trying to get out here in front
of all of you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
The question is are we anticipating a procession for our
three heroic deputies who passed away, And the answer to
that is yes, there will be a procession. I don't
have any specific information on that, but it'll happen the
next several hours.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Another question about what nature explosives, and I don't think
you've answered that one as well.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't have the answers to those questions yet. And again,
getting out here, trying to be out here at this
time to inform all of you, our community to know
what we know at this time, was very important.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Again, all of you are amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You're asking very important questions, and we're going to get
the answers I think to, if not everything, to most
of them. But we just simply don't have that information
at this time. There is currently an investigation going on
to determine what happened from the very beginning to the end.
I know everybody wants answers. Please understand, we just rendered
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the scene safe. Within the last thirty minutes, the LAPD
bomb squad rendered the scene safe. We have to go
back investigate what happened from the very beginning, and we'll
get there.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Just not going to happen this soon.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I would be very irresponsible to try and answer a
lot of these questions without the information that I need
to positively give you facts, and I don't have the
facts at this point.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Eric.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
We understand that you're telling us that you can tell us,
and we understand we.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Got to wait by when roughly you think you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Can have another first companies.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
To tell us more information will through our Sheriff's Information Bureau.
We'll put something out in the next couple of hours
of when we would have more information. But I'm going
to tell you right now, based on my experience when
we're conducting these type of investigations, it doesn't take hours
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to get some of this information. It takes days and weeks.
We do not rush this investigation.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We want to make sure that we're extremely thorough. Ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
We lost three lives and we want to make sure
we know what happened. We don't want to repeat for
this and again all The questions that are being asked
are very legitimate. There are other law enforcement agencies who
have bond techs, not only around the country, around the
world that want to know what happened here. So we
want to make sure that no one else repeat this, right,
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So thorough investigation will be done by multiple agencies and.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We'll get back to you about it.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Sounds like everything is repeat questions about the incident. I
can't answer any of those right now because we don't
have those facts yet. So with that, thank you all,
and then we'll keep you updated on any progress on
anything else. Appreciate each and every one of you.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right there, Off you go Sheriff Robert Luna again
taking questions about the three again members of the Sheriff's
department who were killed this morning at the East LA
Sheriff's Training Center. And I'll just review what we heard
from the sheriff. As we predicted, we weren't going to
get a lot of information the first time that the
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sheriff gets behind the podium after a tragedy like this,
it's going to be the very basics, just to kind
of shut everybody up, stop any of the theories that
may rear their ugly heads online, if there is people,
if there are people in the area there Monterey Park, East,
LA who are worried, letting them know that there is
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no danger to the community. And that was the goal
of that press conference. And so what he laid out
for US Sheriff Robert Luna was that just after seven
point thirty is when that explosion happened at the Special
Enforcement Bureau there the grounds at the La County Sheriff's Department.
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He says three sworn members were killed. That these were
three members assigned to the Arson Explosives detail. At times,
the Sheriff's voice, and understandably so was shaking. The largest
loss of life, he said, for the LA Sheriff's Department
in one day here since eighteen fifty seven. Like I
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said earlier, these kinds of things don't happen, especially with
this kind of unit. I had said earlier, this is
truly the best of the best. I didn't use the
word eleait, but he says he's the word elite you
several times, and that it's overused from time to time,
and not in this case. You're not going to get
a group of finer trained men and women to handle
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these types of high risk situations, and you're gonna find
with the La County Sheriff's Department, you're just not. Among
the three people that were killed this morning, seventy four
years experience amongst them at the Sheriff's department. One had
nineteen years, one had twenty two, and one had thirty
three years. A sheriff, Robert Luna, did not give us
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any information about who these people were, did not give
out any names. He says, the reason it took me
a while to get there, to get to that podium,
to get to the scene, is because he has along
said that families are his priorities. It is his family
the La County Sheriff's Department, and that extends past the
badge to everyone that the people who wear the badge
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are connected to. So he spent the morning talking to
these three family members, these three families. Now, he said,
other family members connected to these three are on their
way to La to the homes, what have you. And
there are some that have not been able to be
notified yet, some family members. So he said, the last
thing I want, and I believe that all of us want,
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is for somebody to turn on the news and find
out this way. This is a department, as I mentioned earlier,
that is hurting. It's not just that these were three
best of the best officers, technical specialists, but that they
were hurt during during this And I'm moving off the
(36:34):
term exercise, not that I had ever been on that
term exercise. As some people said it was a training
and said, we just don't know. We don't know if
this was training or not training. This could have been
an explosive that was recovered that they were trying to detonate.
We just don't know. But this is a specialty detail department.
And the sheriff even said at this point for him,
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there's a lot more that we don't know than we
do know and are going to look at it painstakingly,
so from the beginning about what caused this tragic event.
Homicide detectives are on scene. Yes, and I said earlier
that does not mean murder. That means that somebody died
and it wasn't a death that happened when it should
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have happened. It's a death that happens not via natural causes.
Somebody was killed unlawful or lawful. Homicide detectives are on
the scene of that of FBI is there. You've got
atf there. FBI, he said, is investigating the post blast
portion of the incident. I'm not sure what that it
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means entirely. LAPD rushed to the scene as well to
help render the scene safe, which took quite a bit
of time. The sheriff said, it was just moments before
he took to the podium that they were able to
render all the devices safe in that area, which leads
me to believe that there are a number of devices
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or who knows. I have no idea, I'm not trained,
but that it happened about seven thirty so eight three nine.
That's four and a half hours of LAPD LA Sheriff's
Department working to make sure that whatever else was up there,
whatever else they were dealing with in the area, that
everything was going to be copesthetic, that everything was safe.
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He said, it remained an active scene until they were
able to do so, that it was not stable. No
cause of the explosion, he said at this point that
he is aware of or that he has been told about. Obviously,
the area will be closed off as the investigation continues.
No threat to the community. There's a big takeaway there.
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Nobody thinks that this was planted explosives, This was not
This was an isolated incident, were his words. What kind
of explosives was the first question, of course that's been
on our mind. Where did the explosives come from? What
type of explosives? Were they military grade explosives? Which would
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play into the evidence that we have that they were powerful.
If you've got a patrol SUV twenty five yards away
and all the windows were blasted out of it, that
to me lends credence to the idea that these were
very powerful explosives. A lot of questions about these three.
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Were they moving them? Were they alone in moving them?
All the sheriff said was that these three were killed
by the explosives and the ensuing blast, and that nobody
else was taken to the hospital. He said, you know,
these are all good questions. I don't think he answered one.
I don't think Sheriff Robert Luna was able to answer one,
but he wanted to make sure and get out there
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to kind of calm down any fears that the community
would have. All good questions. He said that they are
going to take their time answering. He said that these
are the best of the best, as I mentioned years
of training. We went through each and every resume of
these three people, eighteen years, twenty two years, thirty three years.
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He said. It's not just you and us talking to
the reporters on the scene there that want answers. We've
got people around the country that want to know what
happened here. We've got bomb techs calling us saying what
the hell happened because it is some stark news that
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this would happen to the La County Sheriff's Department. There's
just that is a shocking report to get if you're
a bomb tech elsewhere in this country, and that this
happened with the La County sheriffs Department. So we will
stay on top of this bring you all of the details.
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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