October 13, 2025 • 33 mins
#SwampWatch covers the latest on the israeli hostages being freed, while A.I. brings dead celebrities back to digital life through eerie new photos and videos. Guest Dave Shuttera joins us to unpack why men are betting on WNBA players’ menstrual cycles. Plus, The Washington Post’s wild story of a reporter who “revived” her grandmother, and a look back at radio hosts who died on the air.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Your Thing with Diane Keaton.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Man, it like flooded my my dms over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
DM.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Everyone had to say, this is for Gary, this is
for Gary, This is for Gary, This is for Gary.
With announcement after announcement after announcement of Diane Keaton's death.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Why would I why would it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay? Listen?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah, for a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I hated you for a long time. All weekend I thought,
damn it. I was like, there we go again, here's
another Diane Keaton death notification.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I didn't want to see her pass. That's not that's awful.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
People said she looked very thin, but she had talked
about struggles with bolimia.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh so that can take its toll on us.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
And I read a whole lot of I read more
Diane Keaton situation this weekend than any other time in
my life.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, because I was bad?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did you feel bad? No, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I wanted to know what happened. I mean it was
it was one of those things. She's not somebody that
I've seen very often. I don't obviously, I wouldn't seek
out interviews with her, like for previews for her latest
book club movie or whatever. But I didn't hear that
she had been sick. And I mean I was not
(01:26):
alone in that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She always and she always has appeared to be the
strong woman.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like she's strong. I mean, she's not sturdy, but.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's always seemed to be like that woman who's got
it together, scut her own voice, and she's strong, and
she's gonna wear her hats and her scarves. You'd be damned,
regardless of what dummies like me say exactly. And she
always played that. You know, she didn't always play that role.
You know, I'm thinking of like First Wives Club, where
she plays a pushover. She said, by the way, I
read over the weekend that her favorite movie that she
(01:57):
ever did was the one with Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And something's got to give a great movie.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Where he is dating her daughter a spoiler alert from
two thousand and two something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He's dating her daughter.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's one of those you know, winter spring romance. Yeah,
and and and the daughter brings him home and he
meets Diane Keaton and you know, the two are contemporary,
is the same age, and exactly what you think is
going to play out plays out, and it really is
(02:30):
a great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You were mentioning the belief is not the right one.
Something's got to give hers that a different I think
you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I may have something wrong about that, because there was
another one where he plays that neurotic guy with all
those issues.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's with Helen Hunt. That's with Helen Hunt. Okay, you
make me want to be a better man. Yeah, man,
Jack Nicholson, what a career.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
You mentioned the bolima though she did an interview a
while ago where she referenced that time when she was
boliemic or what was dealing with bolimia. However she wanted
to describe it and that she was in taking twenty
thousand calories a day and estimated twenty thousand calories, and
the way she would describe what she would eat for dinner,
I mean a couple of pizzas and a full bowl
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of ramen, and like a couple of dessert possible.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know, but that's the boliemia party. When was
that in her life?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It wasn't that long ago from what I remember. Maybe
the interview. Wasn't that long ago that she's probably.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Been so thin for as long as I can remember
to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean, even if you were a beliemic twenty thousand,
how do you even put that away?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I knew one guy in college that would eat like
that because he was a marathon runner.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean, I've seen you eat like that in one meal,
but I'm imagined the results of it. But you have
that for one meal, and I do see the results.
But if you had like that one meal eight times
a day, I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's time first walmp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm cheat and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing
their lollipops.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
The other side you never quit, so what what?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So now you plain the squaw, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You know, Americans have always been going president, but they're
not stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Whether people voted for you with not swap watch, I
actually don't see you eat much anymore? Is that why
you just gound you're eating.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I'm going to eat a pop tart, I'm honest, I'm
gonna eat that whole.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You should eat that, both of them like that's delicious.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So I don't know anybody who's not giving credit to
President Trump for this Gaza Hamas peace deal.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Now sorry Israel Hamas piece.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Now at lasts, not only for Israelis, but also for
Palestidians and for many others. The long and painful night
is finally over, and as the dust settles, the smoke phades,
the debris is removed, and the ashes cleaned from the air.
(05:11):
The day that breaks on a region transformed, and a
beautiful and much brighter future appears suddenly within your reach.
This is now a very exciting time for Israel and
for the entire Middle East, because all across the Middle East,
the forces of chaos, terra and ruin that have plagued
(05:34):
the region for decades now stand weakened, isolated, and totally defeated.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I was President Trump speaking to the Israeli Kannesset earlier.
He went on to Egypt to Charmel Shak, where he
signed the actual deal with several world leaders who showed
up and then barded Air Force one. He is expected
to be back on his way towards Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You are much more. You are well versed to not
much more. I am not versed at all. You are
well versed when it comes to Israeli politics. What does
this mean for Netanyahu in his current approval ratings that
seem to be tenuous.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I appreciate the compliment, but I have no flipping idea. Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean, he's a guy who obviously two years ago
everybody wanted him to respond to the terrorist attack of
October seventh, and he did, but he never let his
foot off the gas. And that's when Israel, in the
last couple of months had become sort of this pariah
(06:37):
state where longtime allies had thought that Benjamin Netnahu and
his war cabinet were way too over the top in
doing what they did to the people that lived in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
A warmonger is how I've heard him described.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And now is it Trump's relationship with him where he
listens to Trump, Trump's able to say, hey, take your
foot off the gas? Is that what happened here? They've
had a relationship for quite some time, right.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, but I don't think I don't think he listened
to Trump, or I should say, I'm not sure that
that was the message from Trump. I think the message
might have been something more akin to starting to not
look good, like, when are we gonna wrap this thing up?
Because this is taken forever and you're killing a lot
of people, and yeah, you don't want to, but a
lot of civilians are dying kind of thing. I don't
(07:26):
know if Trump ever asked him to pull back in
any way. But the one thing that did happen that
was given a lot of credit, or at least a
lot of commentators this morning we're saying should be given
credit was Operation Midnight Hammer, when we flew and blew
up a lot of Iranian nuclear capability, not all of it,
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but a lot of it. That that put everybody in
that region on notice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Iran is not going to help you out.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
They do not have the major backstop policy of a
nuclear threat to back up whatever plans you have in
the future. So a lot of people gave that military
operation sort of the credit for being the genesis of
this peace deal.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
All right, Gary and Shannon will continue coming up next.
We've got your shun At one thousand dollars. Also, AI
videos of dead celebrities are horrifying their families, and Washington
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Speaker 2 (08:27):
We got both of those for you on tap. Garyan
Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
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Speaker 1 (08:39):
You heard net and Yahoo talk about Trump and how
wonderful he is from the podium, and then apparently the
favor was returned and it triggered controversy. President Trump triggering
that controversy in Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They said it was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
A jaw dropping moment when Trump, during his address in Jerusalem,
turned to Israel's president to advocate. He pardoned Prime Minister
Netanyahu on the long standing fraud and bribery charges. Trump said,
flashing a smile, come on, give him a pardon, called
(09:18):
him one of the greatest wartime leaders. It drew apparently
an ecstatic burst of applause from the Prime Minister's lawmakers
and other supporters who were chanting his nickname.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Anyway, of course, so it's.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Trump wading into Israel's internal affairs.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, it's not like there's a place that's off limits
for him.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
No, no, but more traditional Israelis were shocked by this.
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make basically, and it comes out with.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
These these clips.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Still a few things that make it obviously fake. Some
of them are hard to pinpoint, others are very very clear.
But there's a movement out there of people who think
it's funny or interesting or whatever to have dead celebrities,
(11:13):
whether it's actual, you know, Hollywood celebrity or somebody from
politics or pop culture, whatever it is, and using the
celebrity images to do things that those celebrities would never do,
or put them in situations that obviously they would never
have been in because they passed away.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Like Malcolm X making crude jokes, wrestling with Martin Luther
King Junior talking about defecating on himself.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
His daughter does not want to see these.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sora has produced videos of Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Amy
Winehouse that have flooded social media, and some viewers, as
you know, as you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know if this is real earth.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This is fake, certainly not if they didn't live in
the time these people lived in and knew who they were.
Some clips are for laughs, like a video of mister Rogers,
neighborhood host Fred Rogers writing a rap song with Tupac,
but some have been darker. When video shows body camera
footage of Whitney Houston looking drunk or high.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What about the uh Kobe Bryant in a helicopter.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Or JFK making a joke about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Robin Williams's daughter has pleaded on an Instagram post for
people to stop sending me AI videos of Dad. She says,
to watch the legacies of real people be condensed down
to TikTok slop puppeteering of them is maddening.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Amen, that's a pretty poignant way to put it, right.
Henry Aider is an AI expert studies deep fakes, and
he has coined the term synthetic resurrection to describe creating
digital copies of the dead. And then I mean that
term that she used, the puppetry with deceased individuals, says Henry.
(13:11):
This opens up a huge question about ownership of likeness
and really fundamentally changes the social contract around what it
means to be you online. And he said that this
vision is becoming a more common reality. The prospect of
digitally cloning the dead is already sparking questions about an
(13:32):
ability a family member's ability to control their deceased loved
ones images online.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Open Ai has described its video tool as a wellspring
of creativity.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
One executive said that they've been permissive with video creation
to avoid a competitive disadvantage from lasi fair rivals.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So we'll make ours the best.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If you want to depict dead Robin Williams, we'll do
it better than the other ones that are popping up
so that we can keep ownership.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Of this tool.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What is it that creativity versus distaste argument we're going
to have? When are you being creative? And when do
you veer into what not criminal?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Maybe not criminal, but just a well, I don't even
know the right word, a civil a civil u.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Disparagement of somebody. Then yeah, you know, because slander, slander, sure, deformation.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
But if you're just having as used Robin Williams as
an example, if you're just having Robin Williams read the
prologue to the Canterbury Tales, which I don't know if
he ever did in real life. But if he did
and then you showed that in say your high school
literature class, would the family be I mean, the family
(15:02):
probably wouldn't think it was great, But would that be
enough to what are.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
The rights of dead people when it comes to slander
and defamation?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Are there? Are there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And are they passed on to the estate of whoever died.
Is this even a conversation?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
It does actually bring familiar like I feel like the
Michael Jackson family and the estate had some issues with
people that were still suing the estate for potential transgressions
that he did against people, but that that it wasn't
going to go anywhere because it's not him an standing state,
(15:42):
no legal standing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's just bad form. Is there nothing to well?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And we're never going to prevent people from doing bad
things because it's available to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, I guess if.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You could show harm to a living relative. If Robin
William's daughter can show harm legally, she could have a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But what kind of harm? The harm in that?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You to be psychological? And how do you put a
how do you can't? That's the beauty of psychological harm.
It's hard to quantify.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Well when it comes to much more personal things. I've
actually seen. I have seen funeral packages that include an
AI generated image message something like that from your deceased
loved one.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, as part of the package. How it's awful. Awful?
I would not want that, do you imagine?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But see, you know what those Sometimes families have disagreements
sometimes you know, somebody will want ashes and the other
person will not want to have the ashes or what
have you. There's disagreements in families sometimes of what you
want to see happen. What if one person really wants
an AI video of the dead person and the rest
of the family is like, absolutely not. The horrifying and traumatizing,
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and then that's another layer, layer of potential arguments agreement.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
We'll talk about what happens when you try to make
Grandma rise from the dead. Yeah, in the computer way,
not like the old fashioned horror movie way. Also, gambling
has gotten bananas. We've got that coming up for you
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
This is my karaoke song Gambler because you can talk
your way through it, and we know I can't sing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yes, you could sing if you no, I think you could.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Congratulations on ten years. Thank you so when you started
your show, Campbell was only seventy five. I wish you
the best of luck in the future, but don't ever
count on him retiring. But you don't want to get
up that early anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
No, congrats it it will be weird.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Handles one of those people who will work till he
dies and it's gonna be weird that it like, what
if he dies on the air, Like that's a rich
Have there been people.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's already said, you got to leave your microson? Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Absolutely, are you kidding? I want to hear all the
gurgling I want to hear all the end of life stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Gurgling from handle. Yes, he would want that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You're honoring him and listening to all that that said.
Has there been a radio host has just died on
the air, not the not the weird TV station where
someone came in and shot those people in the head
while they were on air, But like a radio host
is just like, I'm not leaving and then they just
like one day die in the seven o'clock hour.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I think, Yeah, I think so, Really, I just just
by sheer chance. I mean the number of yeah, the
number of unhealthy people who work in this industry.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm sure it happens quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, but usually they retire, right, you hope, or they
get fired, you'd hope, or they moved to Canada.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You'd also hope.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
We were talking about what I'm just saying another land,
like a different land. I didn't mean anybody in particular,
my god, I did not mean that.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That is not what I meant.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I meant like a nice place where you live amongst
the I'll stop too late. I was talking about how
I can get a little bit out of control when.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It comes to gaming. From time to time, I.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Have phases and I got deep into a specific app
that I enjoy. And at one point, my brother likes
to remind me of this phase in my life a
few years ago. He says, you were betting on darts overseas,
like darts.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In America would be different.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think we're just dealing with, you know, apples and
apples at this point. But I know somebody who will
bet on anything and makes my little dart for a
look like child's play.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And that man is.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
David Chaterra, who worked with us. He is a brilliant
engineer in the building. And he's brilliant in one hand,
but a complete degenerate in the other.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
How bad has it gotten?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like, what are some of your worst things that you
have ever?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, all right, I'll tell you my biggest bet. Okay,
that scared me like it was my first big but
it was like nine hundred dollars. It was when Scheck
and Wade were playing on the Heat and I was like,
why are they getting you know, the Heat are getting
eight points? Right, Yeah, So I was freaking out. I
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was like, Okay, I put my entire account on there
because I had I had nine hundred dollars in my
credit card, and I was like, well, the easiest way
to pay it off.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Right, hell yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And so I threw it down there and found out
that Wade wasn't playing that night.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
They were down by seven. Yeah, with the pistons and
somewhile somehow Shaq was cherry picking, oh my and dunked
it with one point three seconds left.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, I see that gives me chills and that those
are the kinds of stories that lead me to play
with darts internationally. Yeah, my dad used to say that,
like when he'd see a bet like that, he'd say,
somebody knows something. Somebody knows somebody somebody's not playing, somebody's in,
or somebody's hurt, somebody's six, something's off, somebody knows something.
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Like darts overseas, what are some of the you know,
the Heat game, that's all like mainstream stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
What's some of the weirder stuff. Yeah, that you've been
during the Olympics. I loved handball. I learned what that is.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's like like basketball, hockey.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
And dodgeball, and yeah, I love watching that game water
polo just because.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You could you could bet on it. When when else
you're going to bet on water polo? Let's see rowing,
We totally bet on that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I like you say, we like like it's like it's
not like you have a part, I have a.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Couple, like we just got But you also talk about
like I don't remember if this was COVID specifically, but
like Korean baseball, European women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, yeah, women's sports, didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You Yes, just because the time, uh, table tennis, remember
who I am. So when you're bored, you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
The thing is, because because it is worldwide now there's
there there's some event going on constantly around the clock.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You just got to find out which one it is.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Was there one of these things that you were hitting
on that were it was easier because you don't know
the intricacies of the table tennis matchups.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Right at this point, you're just picking a side, right.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean Yeah, you're just finally knowledge about this.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You're going with the odds and like you know, and
then you put like a couple of the like either
the favorites together where you just take one big onunderdog. Yeah,
like you're supposed to bet, not parlays if you want
to win, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Do you feel badly about this ever?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Do you ever have those talks like self, I'm betting
on table tennis and.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Coreascues it to me three times a week. Yeah, He'll
come in and he'll go, he'll go, hey, did you
watch that game last night?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And he goes, I had the over and it's whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I mean, there's always something that comes in and he's like, man,
I got to pull it together. And then the other
day it's like, oh, man, do you see that I
had the over and I got the parlay with the
guy scoring twenty seven and a half points and he's happy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah. Well my two NFL bets this weekend, both
the wide receivers got hurt. I had Puka and I
had that dude from I went to Ohio State with
Tampa Bay and Buka or whatever. Oh it hurt the
second and third and my parlays were out the window
after that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Injuries this season are worse than I've ever remembered across
the board.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
People have weak bones.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Fred Warner's bones aren't weak. I was hurtful. I was
a painful Okay, So now shtera the reason we bring
you in here. And I gotta know if you would
be into this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I know you bet on WNBA, Yes, yeah, you do
bet on the like you know, do you watch the
WNBA or just this year?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I have?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And Alyssa Thomas is a beast in Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Okay, all right, so now we know somebody who watches
the w NBA. So put that check that off on
our card over there. There are people now betting on Ah.
Now that I'm mentioning this, you've brought this to my
attention like months ago.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, it was probably like.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh God, just realized, I'm like, wait, care brought this up?
And I thought he was joking. I thought it was
a joke between us friends. He said, people are betting
on the player's menstrual cycles. If you've heard about this,
and I thought, ha ha, what a funny joke.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
You were serious.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, they're actually using the menstrual cycle apps to track them.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
There are apps for this, yep, Well there's apps for
women to track their own site.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't know if you know this, but women play
in the w n b A.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I'm just saying that Dave is saying he might have
an app that would try I'm not not you, but
let's just say a guy named Dave might have an
app like this to keep track of some of his
favorite stars in the w n b A and might
not be as app to bet for the over.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right on their Well what's the correlation, Dave?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
They said, when they're on it, they shoot worse. Really, yes,
and that's like that affects like.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
They take more shots.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Have they gotten into the minutia of why the shots
aren't falling? Are they more aggressive with the shots?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I'm not saying anything good, oh smart way, but it's
a real it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And it and it's it tracks like that people are
betting this way and it's working.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, that's what they claim. But you can't always how.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Did this get started?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If you this is just hitting the mainstream news, but
you you were onto this.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
This is this something you came up with or you
heard it in.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Your degenerates honestly, during COVID, that's when it started.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
COVID is when guys got into athletes menstrual cycles.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, my god, what a dark time for all of us.
There's a guy.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
There's a guy quoted in this Wired article, by the way,
doesn't give his real name. His his online handle is
fade me bets, and he wrote about this and using
period apps to figure out when you're gonna when you're
gonna bet on these women. He said, quote a lot
of gamblers, they aren't the nicest people.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well no, but that's not true, because Dave's one of
the nice But here's my other question.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
When you spend women female athletes who are listening to
this probably have come to the same kind of question
that I have. When you spend a lot of time
together as women like these teams, do you kind of
sync up?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
That's honestly what I thought to you. I've never bet
on this, so I just want to make that clear.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's okay if you have. This is a judgment free zone.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I may be a degenerate, but I'm not that much
of a degenerate.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But that's what I That's honestly what I asked my
chick and she uh she was like, yeah, that's pretty
much true.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right and huh.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So I'm just wondering, like if you just I don't know,
I don't know how it works, but I'm certainly not
going to do research on that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
If there's definitely a way to get odds, they'll figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They'll figure it out. Thanks day, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That was illuminating, Gary, especially when I realized that you
were onto that months ago.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You look so young?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wow? Is it the glasses?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think I don't know, it was a different time
ten years ago. I can't believe he's been ten years.
Oh by like that to me, I feel like, I mean,
I know a lot has happened.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well when you're having fun, Yeah, Gary and Shannon KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I had asked if anybody on the air a radio
host has died on the air, not in connection with you,
but Ritchie dug up the details here a couple of
notable examples Luther Luke, James Ooh forty six years old
(28:43):
or was he on the air from fifty to ninety six?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, I think he was forty six years old.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Really, well, then the other guy wasn't that much anyway. Oh, yeah,
he was older.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I was in his seventies. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Luther Luke James was on WCLM and Richmond, Virginia died
of a heart attack, says in nineteen ninety six while
doing his regular show on the air, he collapsed and
died in the studio from a heart attack. The station
was playing gospel music at the time, and the music
continued as he passed away quietly at the microphone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Creepy, it's beautiful, creepy. The other one was Mike Sinto.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Although he wasn't technically on the air, he did apparently
have a heart attack while on the air and then
died just after that, discovered by local media. Station paid
tribute to his career. Wow, that's really dark. Yeah, I
feel like that's that happens.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It doesn't happen though.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know people die, yes, but you don't just die
on the air with your mic hot that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well, that would know, what if he died in a commercial.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Break, that's a waste.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Well, congratulations on ten years. I hope it didn't miss
out on your ten year university for you too. I
remember Gary was with Bill Handle and Shannon you were
a joh I can but then you guys got together.
Now it's one of those brilliant shows that we love
listening to and just keep it going and don't.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Stop, and we love you guys.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
And the one who aged the best out of ten years,
I have to say Gary has so there you go.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Al Right, guys, it was such a nice a nice
message with a parting shot at the end. But it's
true you have aged the best. You don't age, You've
actually aged better. I think you look better now than
you did ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Like this. This is one of the first pictures that
we ever took as a full Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think you're still trying to find yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That picture.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Us.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
It's one of our old producers. I don't remember his name.
I remember his name.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That men aged great, We just aged slower.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No, men aged great.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think it's like the Sean Connery principle. Sean Connery
looked better later.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I think.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You liked him better as Indiana Jones's dad. That Robert Redford,
I liked better James Bond. Yeah, okay, I liked him
Hunt for Red October. Sean Connery so starting to get gray. Yeah,
I guess he was pretty great. Salt and Pepper by then.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
All right, well, I like my men right before they're
about to die on the air, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Thursday, you can come out and celerate.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
It's not necessarily our anniversary party, but we can, you know,
make some hay if you will make some Hey. Thursday,
We're going to be live at Bjay's Restaurant in Brewe
House in Huntington Beach once again on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's the one that's easier to get to.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
It's right off of the four or five freeway, and
it is always a great time out there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So we would love it if you would come on
out and say hi. Yeah, always a great day. You know.
You know this, you know, asked and answered, understood.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
At this point, after ten years of having a news
and bruise out of Bjay's Huntington Beach, you just know
what you've signed up for. It's like going to a
grateful Dead show, you know what I mean. We've been around,
oh you know what the experience is.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's the first news and Bruce we Ever did Oh yeah,
look at that. That was that was I think before
we ate in the commercial break. You wouldn't even fit
in that shirt today. I don't even own that shirt anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I don't think I wouldn't fit in that shirt. Dare you?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just mean it's a bigger shirt. What is that?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That's the blood splatter line in the hotel that in
Middleburg Heights.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh, that is troubling. That is a legit blood spatter.
Big picture with Via Gosa in the airport before the convention.
Did I eat a house? Jesus? Can you stop showing pictures?
Hit the thing? You've been listening to The Gary and
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Your Thing with Diane Keaton.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Man, it like flooded my my dms over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
DM.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Everyone had to say, this is for Gary, this is
for Gary, This is for Gary, This is for Gary.
With announcement after announcement after announcement of Diane Keaton's death.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Why would I why would it?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay? Listen?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah, for a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I hated you for a long time. All weekend I thought,
damn it. I was like, there we go again, here's
another Diane Keaton death notification.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I didn't want to see her pass. That's not that's awful.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
People said she looked very thin, but she had talked
about struggles with bolimia.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh so that can take its toll on us.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
And I read a whole lot of I read more
Diane Keaton situation this weekend than any other time in
my life.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, because I was bad?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did you feel bad? No, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I wanted to know what happened. I mean it was
it was one of those things. She's not somebody that
I've seen very often. I don't obviously, I wouldn't seek
out interviews with her, like for previews for her latest
book club movie or whatever. But I didn't hear that
she had been sick. And I mean I was not
(01:26):
alone in that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She always and she always has appeared to be the
strong woman.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like she's strong. I mean, she's not sturdy, but.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's always seemed to be like that woman who's got
it together, scut her own voice, and she's strong, and
she's gonna wear her hats and her scarves. You'd be damned,
regardless of what dummies like me say exactly. And she
always played that. You know, she didn't always play that role.
You know, I'm thinking of like First Wives Club, where
she plays a pushover. She said, by the way, I
read over the weekend that her favorite movie that she
(01:57):
ever did was the one with Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And something's got to give a great movie.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Where he is dating her daughter a spoiler alert from
two thousand and two something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He's dating her daughter.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's one of those you know, winter spring romance. Yeah,
and and and the daughter brings him home and he
meets Diane Keaton and you know, the two are contemporary,
is the same age, and exactly what you think is
going to play out plays out, and it really is
(02:30):
a great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You were mentioning the belief is not the right one.
Something's got to give hers that a different I think
you're right.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I may have something wrong about that, because there was
another one where he plays that neurotic guy with all
those issues.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's with Helen Hunt. That's with Helen Hunt. Okay, you
make me want to be a better man. Yeah, man,
Jack Nicholson, what a career.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
You mentioned the bolima though she did an interview a
while ago where she referenced that time when she was
boliemic or what was dealing with bolimia. However she wanted
to describe it and that she was in taking twenty
thousand calories a day and estimated twenty thousand calories, and
the way she would describe what she would eat for dinner,
I mean a couple of pizzas and a full bowl
(03:14):
of ramen, and like a couple of dessert possible.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't know, but that's the boliemia party. When was
that in her life?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It wasn't that long ago from what I remember. Maybe
the interview. Wasn't that long ago that she's probably.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Been so thin for as long as I can remember
to be.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean, even if you were a beliemic twenty thousand,
how do you even put that away?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
I knew one guy in college that would eat like
that because he was a marathon runner.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean, I've seen you eat like that in one meal,
but I'm imagined the results of it. But you have
that for one meal, and I do see the results.
But if you had like that one meal eight times
a day, I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's time first walmp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm cheat and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing
their lollipops.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Here we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
The other side you never quit, so what what?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So now you plain the squaw, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You know, Americans have always been going president, but they're
not stupid.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Whether people voted for you with not swap watch, I
actually don't see you eat much anymore? Is that why
you just gound you're eating.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I'm going to eat a pop tart, I'm honest, I'm
gonna eat that whole.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You should eat that, both of them like that's delicious.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So I don't know anybody who's not giving credit to
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Speaker 2 (04:48):
Now sorry Israel Hamas piece.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
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(05:34):
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Speaker 5 (05:40):
I was President Trump speaking to the Israeli Kannesset earlier.
He went on to Egypt to Charmel Shak, where he
signed the actual deal with several world leaders who showed
up and then barded Air Force one. He is expected
to be back on his way towards Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You are much more. You are well versed to not
much more. I am not versed at all. You are
well versed when it comes to Israeli politics. What does
this mean for Netanyahu in his current approval ratings that
seem to be tenuous.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I appreciate the compliment, but I have no flipping idea. Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I mean, he's a guy who obviously two years ago
everybody wanted him to respond to the terrorist attack of
October seventh, and he did, but he never let his
foot off the gas. And that's when Israel, in the
last couple of months had become sort of this pariah
(06:37):
state where longtime allies had thought that Benjamin Netnahu and
his war cabinet were way too over the top in
doing what they did to the people that lived in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
A warmonger is how I've heard him described.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And now is it Trump's relationship with him where he
listens to Trump, Trump's able to say, hey, take your
foot off the gas? Is that what happened here? They've
had a relationship for quite some time, right.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, but I don't think I don't think he listened
to Trump, or I should say, I'm not sure that
that was the message from Trump. I think the message
might have been something more akin to starting to not
look good, like, when are we gonna wrap this thing up?
Because this is taken forever and you're killing a lot
of people, and yeah, you don't want to, but a
lot of civilians are dying kind of thing. I don't
(07:26):
know if Trump ever asked him to pull back in
any way. But the one thing that did happen that
was given a lot of credit, or at least a
lot of commentators this morning we're saying should be given
credit was Operation Midnight Hammer, when we flew and blew
up a lot of Iranian nuclear capability, not all of it,
(07:48):
but a lot of it. That that put everybody in
that region on notice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Iran is not going to help you out.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
They do not have the major backstop policy of a
nuclear threat to back up whatever plans you have in
the future. So a lot of people gave that military
operation sort of the credit for being the genesis of
this peace deal.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
All right, Gary and Shannon will continue coming up next.
We've got your shun At one thousand dollars. Also, AI
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Speaker 2 (08:27):
We got both of those for you on tap. Garyan
Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
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You heard net and Yahoo talk about Trump and how
wonderful he is from the podium, and then apparently the
favor was returned and it triggered controversy. President Trump triggering
that controversy in Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They said it was.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
A jaw dropping moment when Trump, during his address in Jerusalem,
turned to Israel's president to advocate. He pardoned Prime Minister
Netanyahu on the long standing fraud and bribery charges. Trump said,
flashing a smile, come on, give him a pardon, called
(09:18):
him one of the greatest wartime leaders. It drew apparently
an ecstatic burst of applause from the Prime Minister's lawmakers
and other supporters who were chanting his nickname.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Anyway, of course, so it's.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Trump wading into Israel's internal affairs.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, it's not like there's a place that's off limits
for him.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
No, no, but more traditional Israelis were shocked by this.
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Speaker 2 (10:50):
These these clips.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Still a few things that make it obviously fake. Some
of them are hard to pinpoint, others are very very clear.
But there's a movement out there of people who think
it's funny or interesting or whatever to have dead celebrities,
(11:13):
whether it's actual, you know, Hollywood celebrity or somebody from
politics or pop culture, whatever it is, and using the
celebrity images to do things that those celebrities would never do,
or put them in situations that obviously they would never
have been in because they passed away.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Like Malcolm X making crude jokes, wrestling with Martin Luther
King Junior talking about defecating on himself.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
His daughter does not want to see these.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sora has produced videos of Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Amy
Winehouse that have flooded social media, and some viewers, as
you know, as you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know if this is real earth.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This is fake, certainly not if they didn't live in
the time these people lived in and knew who they were.
Some clips are for laughs, like a video of mister Rogers,
neighborhood host Fred Rogers writing a rap song with Tupac,
but some have been darker. When video shows body camera
footage of Whitney Houston looking drunk or high.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What about the uh Kobe Bryant in a helicopter.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Or JFK making a joke about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Robin Williams's daughter has pleaded on an Instagram post for
people to stop sending me AI videos of Dad. She says,
to watch the legacies of real people be condensed down
to TikTok slop puppeteering of them is maddening.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Amen, that's a pretty poignant way to put it, right.
Henry Aider is an AI expert studies deep fakes, and
he has coined the term synthetic resurrection to describe creating
digital copies of the dead. And then I mean that
term that she used, the puppetry with deceased individuals, says Henry.
(13:11):
This opens up a huge question about ownership of likeness
and really fundamentally changes the social contract around what it
means to be you online. And he said that this
vision is becoming a more common reality. The prospect of
digitally cloning the dead is already sparking questions about an
(13:32):
ability a family member's ability to control their deceased loved
ones images online.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Open Ai has described its video tool as a wellspring
of creativity.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
One executive said that they've been permissive with video creation
to avoid a competitive disadvantage from lasi fair rivals.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So we'll make ours the best.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If you want to depict dead Robin Williams, we'll do
it better than the other ones that are popping up
so that we can keep ownership.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Of this tool.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What is it that creativity versus distaste argument we're going
to have? When are you being creative? And when do
you veer into what not criminal?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Maybe not criminal, but just a well, I don't even
know the right word, a civil a civil u.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Disparagement of somebody. Then yeah, you know, because slander, slander, sure, deformation.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
But if you're just having as used Robin Williams as
an example, if you're just having Robin Williams read the
prologue to the Canterbury Tales, which I don't know if
he ever did in real life. But if he did
and then you showed that in say your high school
literature class, would the family be I mean, the family
(15:02):
probably wouldn't think it was great, But would that be
enough to what are.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
The rights of dead people when it comes to slander
and defamation?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Are there? Are there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And are they passed on to the estate of whoever died.
Is this even a conversation?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
It does actually bring familiar like I feel like the
Michael Jackson family and the estate had some issues with
people that were still suing the estate for potential transgressions
that he did against people, but that that it wasn't
going to go anywhere because it's not him an standing state,
(15:42):
no legal standing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's just bad form. Is there nothing to well?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And we're never going to prevent people from doing bad
things because it's available to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean, I guess if.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You could show harm to a living relative. If Robin
William's daughter can show harm legally, she could have a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But what kind of harm? The harm in that?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You to be psychological? And how do you put a
how do you can't? That's the beauty of psychological harm.
It's hard to quantify.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Well when it comes to much more personal things. I've
actually seen. I have seen funeral packages that include an
AI generated image message something like that from your deceased
loved one.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, as part of the package. How it's awful. Awful?
I would not want that, do you imagine?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But see, you know what those Sometimes families have disagreements
sometimes you know, somebody will want ashes and the other
person will not want to have the ashes or what
have you. There's disagreements in families sometimes of what you
want to see happen. What if one person really wants
an AI video of the dead person and the rest
of the family is like, absolutely not. The horrifying and traumatizing,
(17:02):
and then that's another layer, layer of potential arguments agreement.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
We'll talk about what happens when you try to make
Grandma rise from the dead. Yeah, in the computer way,
not like the old fashioned horror movie way. Also, gambling
has gotten bananas. We've got that coming up for you
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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This is my karaoke song Gambler because you can talk
your way through it, and we know I can't sing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yes, you could sing if you no, I think you could.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well.
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Congratulations on ten years. Thank you so when you started
your show, Campbell was only seventy five. I wish you
the best of luck in the future, but don't ever
count on him retiring. But you don't want to get
up that early anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
No, congrats it it will be weird.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Handles one of those people who will work till he
dies and it's gonna be weird that it like, what
if he dies on the air, Like that's a rich
Have there been people.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's already said, you got to leave your microson? Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Absolutely, are you kidding? I want to hear all the
gurgling I want to hear all the end of life stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Gurgling from handle. Yes, he would want that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You're honoring him and listening to all that that said.
Has there been a radio host has just died on
the air, not the not the weird TV station where
someone came in and shot those people in the head
while they were on air, But like a radio host
is just like, I'm not leaving and then they just
like one day die in the seven o'clock hour.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I think, Yeah, I think so, Really, I just just
by sheer chance. I mean the number of yeah, the
number of unhealthy people who work in this industry.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I'm sure it happens quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, but usually they retire, right, you hope, or they
get fired, you'd hope, or they moved to Canada.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You'd also hope.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
We were talking about what I'm just saying another land,
like a different land. I didn't mean anybody in particular,
my god, I did not mean that.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That is not what I meant.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I meant like a nice place where you live amongst
the I'll stop too late. I was talking about how
I can get a little bit out of control when.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It comes to gaming. From time to time, I.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Have phases and I got deep into a specific app
that I enjoy. And at one point, my brother likes
to remind me of this phase in my life a
few years ago. He says, you were betting on darts overseas,
like darts.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In America would be different.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think we're just dealing with, you know, apples and
apples at this point. But I know somebody who will
bet on anything and makes my little dart for a
look like child's play.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And that man is.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
David Chaterra, who worked with us. He is a brilliant
engineer in the building. And he's brilliant in one hand,
but a complete degenerate in the other.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
How bad has it gotten?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Like, what are some of your worst things that you
have ever?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, all right, I'll tell you my biggest bet. Okay,
that scared me like it was my first big but
it was like nine hundred dollars. It was when Scheck
and Wade were playing on the Heat and I was like,
why are they getting you know, the Heat are getting
eight points? Right, Yeah, So I was freaking out. I
(20:39):
was like, Okay, I put my entire account on there
because I had I had nine hundred dollars in my
credit card, and I was like, well, the easiest way
to pay it off.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Right, hell yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And so I threw it down there and found out
that Wade wasn't playing that night.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
They were down by seven. Yeah, with the pistons and
somewhile somehow Shaq was cherry picking, oh my and dunked
it with one point three seconds left.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, I see that gives me chills and that those
are the kinds of stories that lead me to play
with darts internationally. Yeah, my dad used to say that,
like when he'd see a bet like that, he'd say,
somebody knows something. Somebody knows somebody somebody's not playing, somebody's in,
or somebody's hurt, somebody's six, something's off, somebody knows something.
(21:29):
Like darts overseas, what are some of the you know,
the Heat game, that's all like mainstream stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
What's some of the weirder stuff. Yeah, that you've been
during the Olympics. I loved handball. I learned what that is.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's like like basketball, hockey.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
And dodgeball, and yeah, I love watching that game water
polo just because.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You could you could bet on it. When when else
you're going to bet on water polo? Let's see rowing,
We totally bet on that.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I like you say, we like like it's like it's
not like you have a part, I have a.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Couple, like we just got But you also talk about
like I don't remember if this was COVID specifically, but
like Korean baseball, European women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, yeah, women's sports, didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You Yes, just because the time, uh, table tennis, remember
who I am. So when you're bored, you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
The thing is, because because it is worldwide now there's
there there's some event going on constantly around the clock.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You just got to find out which one it is.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Was there one of these things that you were hitting
on that were it was easier because you don't know
the intricacies of the table tennis matchups.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Right at this point, you're just picking a side, right.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean Yeah, you're just finally knowledge about this.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You're going with the odds and like you know, and
then you put like a couple of the like either
the favorites together where you just take one big onunderdog. Yeah,
like you're supposed to bet, not parlays if you want
to win, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Do you feel badly about this ever?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Do you ever have those talks like self, I'm betting
on table tennis and.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Coreascues it to me three times a week. Yeah, He'll
come in and he'll go, he'll go, hey, did you
watch that game last night?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And he goes, I had the over and it's whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I mean, there's always something that comes in and he's like, man,
I got to pull it together. And then the other
day it's like, oh, man, do you see that I
had the over and I got the parlay with the
guy scoring twenty seven and a half points and he's happy.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah. Well my two NFL bets this weekend, both
the wide receivers got hurt. I had Puka and I
had that dude from I went to Ohio State with
Tampa Bay and Buka or whatever. Oh it hurt the
second and third and my parlays were out the window
after that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Injuries this season are worse than I've ever remembered across
the board.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
People have weak bones.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Fred Warner's bones aren't weak. I was hurtful. I was
a painful Okay, So now shtera the reason we bring
you in here. And I gotta know if you would
be into this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I know you bet on WNBA, Yes, yeah, you do
bet on the like you know, do you watch the
WNBA or just this year?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I have?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And Alyssa Thomas is a beast in Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Okay, all right, so now we know somebody who watches
the w NBA. So put that check that off on
our card over there. There are people now betting on Ah.
Now that I'm mentioning this, you've brought this to my
attention like months ago.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, it was probably like.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh God, just realized, I'm like, wait, care brought this up?
And I thought he was joking. I thought it was
a joke between us friends. He said, people are betting
on the player's menstrual cycles. If you've heard about this,
and I thought, ha ha, what a funny joke.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
You were serious.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, they're actually using the menstrual cycle apps to track them.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
There are apps for this, yep, Well there's apps for
women to track their own site.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't know if you know this, but women play
in the w n b A.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I'm just saying that Dave is saying he might have
an app that would try I'm not not you, but
let's just say a guy named Dave might have an
app like this to keep track of some of his
favorite stars in the w n b A and might
not be as app to bet for the over.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right on their Well what's the correlation, Dave?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
They said, when they're on it, they shoot worse. Really, yes,
and that's like that affects like.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
They take more shots.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Have they gotten into the minutia of why the shots
aren't falling? Are they more aggressive with the shots?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I'm not saying anything good, oh smart way, but it's
a real it's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And it and it's it tracks like that people are
betting this way and it's working.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yes, that's what they claim. But you can't always how.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Did this get started?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If you this is just hitting the mainstream news, but
you you were onto this.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
This is this something you came up with or you
heard it in.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Your degenerates honestly, during COVID, that's when it started.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
COVID is when guys got into athletes menstrual cycles.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, my god, what a dark time for all of us.
There's a guy.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
There's a guy quoted in this Wired article, by the way,
doesn't give his real name. His his online handle is
fade me bets, and he wrote about this and using
period apps to figure out when you're gonna when you're
gonna bet on these women. He said, quote a lot
of gamblers, they aren't the nicest people.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well no, but that's not true, because Dave's one of
the nice But here's my other question.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
When you spend women female athletes who are listening to
this probably have come to the same kind of question
that I have. When you spend a lot of time
together as women like these teams, do you kind of
sync up?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
That's honestly what I thought to you. I've never bet
on this, so I just want to make that clear.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's okay if you have. This is a judgment free zone.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I may be a degenerate, but I'm not that much
of a degenerate.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But that's what I That's honestly what I asked my
chick and she uh she was like, yeah, that's pretty
much true.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right and huh.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So I'm just wondering, like if you just I don't know,
I don't know how it works, but I'm certainly not
going to do research on that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
If there's definitely a way to get odds, they'll figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They'll figure it out. Thanks day, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That was illuminating, Gary, especially when I realized that you
were onto that months ago.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You look so young?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wow? Is it the glasses?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think I don't know, it was a different time
ten years ago. I can't believe he's been ten years.
Oh by like that to me, I feel like, I mean,
I know a lot has happened.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well when you're having fun, Yeah, Gary and Shannon KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I had asked if anybody on the air a radio
host has died on the air, not in connection with you,
but Ritchie dug up the details here a couple of
notable examples Luther Luke, James Ooh forty six years old
(28:43):
or was he on the air from fifty to ninety six?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
No, I think he was forty six years old.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Really, well, then the other guy wasn't that much anyway. Oh, yeah,
he was older.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I was in his seventies. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Luther Luke James was on WCLM and Richmond, Virginia died
of a heart attack, says in nineteen ninety six while
doing his regular show on the air, he collapsed and
died in the studio from a heart attack. The station
was playing gospel music at the time, and the music
continued as he passed away quietly at the microphone.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Creepy, it's beautiful, creepy. The other one was Mike Sinto.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Although he wasn't technically on the air, he did apparently
have a heart attack while on the air and then
died just after that, discovered by local media. Station paid
tribute to his career. Wow, that's really dark. Yeah, I
feel like that's that happens.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It doesn't happen though.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know people die, yes, but you don't just die
on the air with your mic hot that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well, that would know, what if he died in a commercial.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Break, that's a waste.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Well, congratulations on ten years. I hope it didn't miss
out on your ten year university for you too. I
remember Gary was with Bill Handle and Shannon you were
a joh I can but then you guys got together.
Now it's one of those brilliant shows that we love
listening to and just keep it going and don't.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Stop, and we love you guys.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
And the one who aged the best out of ten years,
I have to say Gary has so there you go.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Al Right, guys, it was such a nice a nice
message with a parting shot at the end. But it's
true you have aged the best. You don't age, You've
actually aged better. I think you look better now than
you did ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Like this. This is one of the first pictures that
we ever took as a full Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think you're still trying to find yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That picture.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Us.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
It's one of our old producers. I don't remember his name.
I remember his name.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That men aged great, We just aged slower.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No, men aged great.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I think it's like the Sean Connery principle. Sean Connery
looked better later.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I think.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You liked him better as Indiana Jones's dad. That Robert Redford,
I liked better James Bond. Yeah, okay, I liked him
Hunt for Red October. Sean Connery so starting to get gray. Yeah,
I guess he was pretty great. Salt and Pepper by then.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
All right, well, I like my men right before they're
about to die on the air, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Thursday, you can come out and celerate.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
It's not necessarily our anniversary party, but we can, you know,
make some hay if you will make some Hey. Thursday,
We're going to be live at Bjay's Restaurant in Brewe
House in Huntington Beach once again on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's the one that's easier to get to.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
It's right off of the four or five freeway, and
it is always a great time out there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So we would love it if you would come on
out and say hi. Yeah, always a great day. You know.
You know this, you know, asked and answered, understood.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
At this point, after ten years of having a news
and bruise out of Bjay's Huntington Beach, you just know
what you've signed up for. It's like going to a
grateful Dead show, you know what I mean. We've been around,
oh you know what the experience is.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's the first news and Bruce we Ever did Oh yeah,
look at that. That was that was I think before
we ate in the commercial break. You wouldn't even fit
in that shirt today. I don't even own that shirt anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I don't think I wouldn't fit in that shirt. Dare you?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just mean it's a bigger shirt. What is that?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That's the blood splatter line in the hotel that in
Middleburg Heights.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Oh, that is troubling. That is a legit blood spatter.
Big picture with Via Gosa in the airport before the convention.
Did I eat a house? Jesus? Can you stop showing pictures?
Hit the thing? You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show.
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