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December 29, 2025 38 mins

In this episode of the Gary and Shannon Show, Gary and Shannon dive into the latest news and updates. They discuss the Chargers' loss to the Texans and how it affects their playoff chances. Gary shares his personal experience of watching the game and how it relates to the team's performance. They also talk about the upcoming Rose Parade and the potential rain forecast. Additionally, they discuss the meeting between President Trump and Vladimir Putin and the progress made in the peace deal. The conversation also touches on the trend of "analog islands" where people are opting out of technology and embracing a more analog lifestyle.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is this us?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Alrighty, I don't think they've used Backstreet Boys in the newscast.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Unless Backstreet was back. Wait what, because that's how we
do that. That's how we Oh Backstreet was back? Oh,
like we're back. Yeah, we missed like two days. Let's
not be so dramatic.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Did we miss it? If it's considered a holiday?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean no, people had the day off and we
accidentally take the day off.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
And it's once in a while. I get to use
this show as therapy. Welcome back, by the way, and
right now is that time?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Okay? Would you like some therapy music?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm going through a lot. My heart feels like it's
going to explode. This isn't about anything real. This is
about football, which is very real. But you know, I
like that. That sounded pretty nice, So it made me
feel good.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah, this nice.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
So the Chargers lost to the Texans. They didn't really
lose to the Texans. They beat themselves. The Chargers beat themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
My sister saw you on TV, by the way. She
was very exciting.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Oh, Marjorie or Ken, she pointed you out.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, so were the boots too much?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, she didn't notice the boots. She noticed the jacket.
Should bring a Chargers jacket. Uh, yes, probably, I think
I think I saw her.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It was a fun time. It's been a fun season.
They should have won that game. The Texans were beatable.
There was a lot that went wrong, a lot of
mistakes made. But here's where I'm at in my stages
of grief over that game. Had the Chargers won that game,
they would have to play their hearts out in Denver
next week against a strong Denver defense. Justin already needs

(01:48):
some some rest. He got banged up again against the Texans.
That's so fine because they lost that game and don't
have to play for anything against Denver and become and seed.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
It's a bye week. They get to essentially recover.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Take it easy, you know, play Trey Lance, play all
the backups, give all those guys a shot.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Probably better for them too.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Camp Dicker very unlike Cam Dicker to to miss a
field goal inside.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
The forty the first ever. He missed an extra point firstever.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Now, Cam Dicker is a big believer in our Lord,
and Savior Jesus Christ cute, and he is of the
thought process of, well, if I miss those kicks, there's
a reason why I miss those kicks. And I think
there is a reason he missed those kicks. I think
God did play a role in that game, because hear
me out. You are in the seventh seed, likely to

(02:46):
go to New England, which has no pass rush something
Justin Herbert in a hobbled offensive line has struggled against
all year long. They've got a good run run defense,
but the Chargers are not. Don't need to run the ball,
and they can, but they don't need to. They've got
a huge personal Justin Herbert, no pass rush, Justin Herbert
with time, all those weapons. You've got a quarterback and

(03:07):
Drake May who's outstanding, but he's a second year quarterback.
He's never been in the playoffs. You've got jesse Mincher
ready to just completely scramble his brain. I love this matchup.
This makes sense, Drake.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh I missed that part.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
The Chargers go to New England. Okay, got it, got it?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay. Now the forty nine Ers, on the other hand, Yes,
what a great game.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
An instant classic.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Entertaining, so entertaining from start to finish, from start to finish.
What a gift the football gods gave us last night.
They'll give us another one when the Niners take on
Seattle and see it on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
A lot of people upset the fact that that game
has been scheduled for Saturday as opposed to Sunday. Really why, well,
because the one on Sunday, I think is Pittsburgh hosting
the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, it's another battle for the division, for the division.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
It's a division or nothing.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
The leader gets it's a division and if you don't
get the win, you're a done.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh okay, well then that makes more sense. The San
Francisco Seattle game is just for the number one seed.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
They're both in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
We know that it's for the division and for the
number one seed, right, so uh so the forty nine ers,
though they they don't need, what they need is to
beat Seattle going into the playoffs, have that number one
seed and be home throughout, potentially play the super Bowl
at home. I know, I know it's not likely, but
that's what they need. The Chargers are getting what they need.

(04:32):
The forty nine ers are getting what they so you're happy.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
This is how I rationalize everything.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was concerned coming in today because the you know,
was it last weekend? Last Monday? You came in that
chargers and the forty nineer said both won? Yeah, and
you were like you well, because.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
At that point, I'm like child, do I love the most?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
It's hard to chew.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
My heart is full. My heart is very full. It's
been full all season long. I just want the best
for everybody involved.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Joe, Yes, that too.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Holy how I the scale was like, hey, hey girl, all.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Those cookies, hey girls, one at a.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Time, Yes, exactly, Hey girls, those cookies were good. Huh m,
But who cares? It's January. We're all wearing tenting. Uh yes,
but uh and I'm excited for you.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
You're headed on. It's going to be exciting January.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You're going to fantasy camp where you're going to bring
home that trophy this year.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know you're going to bring home that trophy right.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Funch time these next two weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, Because I took a couple of days off, I
had to.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I was in the car.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, what do you do in the car for two
rest days? You had this week. Yeah, okay, that's right.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I did run with my daughter, she's training for half marathon, okay,
and she did four and a half.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
We did four and a half miles on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I did it on a treadmill, so it doesn't feel
the same it is, but still four and a half miles.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Do you work in any elevation in that yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Okay, good, good, good, And you know, change the pace
back and forth a couple of times, and some sprinty stuff,
not sprinty stuff.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Good. But it was, uh, you were you and I
were in the same place.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
We were like a half mile a bit there at
one point, I mean you you came back, but we
were both in Sacramento and it was freezing.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It was I was going to text you weather stuff,
and then I was like, he's an adult, he has
a phone.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Don't be your mother.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
The drive was great that it turned out to be.
I thought it was going to be nasty. The Friday's
drive up towards Sacramento did rain off and on, but
it was there were no problems.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
The drive my drive.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I got a rental car in Sacramento to fulsome my
drive to my brother's house. In fulsom on Christmas Day
was an adventure. It went from sunshine and rainbows to
the most crazy cell I've ever driven through. Two cars,
one on each side of the freeway, went into walls. Wow,
there were already tow trucks posted up on this stretch

(06:59):
of the fifty.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I mean because it's flooded.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
My nephew was like, oh, yeah, that's that's the place
that floods.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So that's why they were all ready to go that
the tow trucks were, but people going way too to teslass,
ps too testlass. It was insane how quick the cell
came on thunder lightning. You couldn't see the car in
front of you. The rain was so was so thick,
there were no lights, you could see no lights.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
It was wild.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
You just pushed it. I just it.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
No no, I slowed to a crawl and no one
barreled into the back of me. But it was wild.
It was only for like three miles. But it's kind
of nice to get weather like that on Christmas. It
makes you feel like it's the holidays.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I was concerned that we're going to be stuck in
the house all my Wednesday, all day Thursday, and we
were but it wasn't bad.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
And you survived. The in laws they're lovely people.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
They were great.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah, they're lovely.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Peo.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
You don't have it hard. Some people have it hard.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Very lucky, Yeah, very very lucky.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
And we had like we had the Christmas with my
sisters and their families and stuff on Saturday Day. Again,
super easy to be around, no pressure, no drama, nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Can I tell you my favorite line of Christmas Day
coming from my mother.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
So I've got three nephew.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
My brother's got three kids, so he's got twenty three,
seventeen and twenty around there and ballparking this. And my
middle nephew loves the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
He's loved them for years. It's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
But it's a forty nine er family, so it's been
a rough go, but he stayed true to the Eagles.
He just you know, that's the way he is. My
mother will not have any of this anyway. So she
got the boys gifts press for Christmas and told Logan
that them, min on, you get one less gift because
I'm not getting you any of that effing Eagles s

(08:46):
And I go mom, and she goes, well, your brother
got him an ornament, and now Jalen Hurts is on
the top of the goddamn tree.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I was like, whoa, Mom, it's Christmas.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It was.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
It's hilarious. It was the funniest thing I ever heard.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
She was so upset in that moment about Jalen Hurts.
I was like, gd Mom on Christmas Day, far from
that tree exactly. I was like, I get it. I
get while why I am the way I.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Am say this?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh in my head it was a big oh.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
So you got a giant revelation for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Poor Jalen Hurts, nobody likes him.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Anyway, we'll talk a little bit about what we can
expect weatherwise, because it ain't gone yet. I mean, it's
beautiful today, gorgeous, but it's coming back. All that rain
is coming back.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Speaking of my favorite show, Well, that was like a
ninety second commercial break.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, I know we're hurting for money over here, KFI.
Send us your dollar bills. Hey, that Gay Hockey Show
was incredible, Like, what a wonderful romance.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
That was a great show.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Was a hockey.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I the hockey was fine. It was very hockey light.
They didn't get into the differentiation between icing and off sides,
which was not my favorite thing. But it was a
great show. I was on the plane watching this.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh that's right. You texted as and said you were.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yelling, crying, crying on Christmas Day Flag of the tacabout
and watching gay porn basically on my iPad, and I
didn't even care.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
I remember the days when I used to be I
remember I had.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I got the Fifty Shades of Gray trilogy on my
iPad specifically so no one would see the book I
was reading because I was so shy about reading like
sex books in public.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
And that was like what ten years ago, and now
I'm just now I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Old, and I gave it up so everybody could yeah.
I'm like, yeah, I'm watching gay porn on the plane
on Christmas. State what of it. I didn't even know
you could do that with a It really is a
great love story. I do have logistical questions when it
comes to that type of love making that I don't
know about, but other than that, and I don't need
the answers to those questions. But there were a couple
of scenes where.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
I was like, wait, what, like, how does that? But
that's all.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I don't need the answers. I can remain curious. But
it was a really good romance. It was a really
good show. I highly recommend Heated Rivalry on HBO Max.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
That is funny.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well we'll have to do that for a watch watch
on Wednesday too.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, all right, So the rain that we saw over
the course of this last week is that new By
the way, what is that?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
What is that Christmas press?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
This is my husband gave this for me so I
can track my calories.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
So I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Is this like the Peloton ad from a few years
ago where everybody got in trouble because she thought she
was that they thought she was an abused wife. Yeah,
better skin up a little bit. So last week's rain
that we saw record breaking rain. As you drive up
I five towards the Grapevine, there are mud slides all
over the place. I mean not you know, in the

(12:12):
roadways necessarily, but you can tell that there was a
lot of rain, very very quickly in different areas. But
today and tomorrow are expected to be windy, gusty winds
up to sixty five miles an hour in some of
the mountains and valleys. Power outages possible as well. You
got to keep an eye out for the trees that
come down, power lines, et cetera. But then the rain

(12:34):
is forecast to come back. The rain is expected to
start on Wednesday and could continue off and on through
next Tuesday, so several days of but probably Wednesday Thursday
is going to be the wettest, which means that's New
Year's even New Year's Day, so the.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Rose Parade could get rain. For the first time in
a long time, I covered the Rose Parade in the rain,
I want to say, one of my first years here.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I think Penn State was there.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was cold. It was awful. It made
me hate the Rose Parade, which is so it's a
wonderful parade. It was just that one experience I had
out there because back then KFI News would have a
reporter live at five from the Rose Parade.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
On New Year's on New Year's Day, and that reporter
was me.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So to get a parking spot for the Rose Parade
to be live at five, I had to get there
at about three thirty am. And to get a spot
in Pasadena that was close enough to the route, but
not you know, corralled in so I could leave.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
It was a long night.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
And then you go on with Handle. He's like, hmmm,
what kind of food do they have?

Speaker 6 (13:47):
So?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
What are you?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Had?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
A cinnamon roll?

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So the one of the people eat when they're when
they're duck riding the floats?

Speaker 5 (13:54):
All right, okay, okay, but moving on. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And you're like, bro, I've been out here for four hours,
I've lost.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
A toe, and you don't even care about this coverage.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Saint Bernard is bringing me a bucket of whiskey right now.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Oh, Katie La.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
It's like Chris on the corner. Everything's great. You know,
let's tell us about the floats.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Handles like I don't care about the parade or oh
there's a football game. It's a different experience when you're
reporting for Bill Handle during the Rose Parade.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well, last time he had got right, and it was
two thousand and six.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Like we said, but before that, rain had not fallen
on New Year's Day on the Rose Parade since nineteen
fifty five.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's why they call it the Chamber of Commerce. The
original Chamber of Commerce Day, right, they wanted all the
people to move out west. Look how beautiful it is
in la on the first of January. Where you've been
snowed in for a month and a half and we'll
remain inside for a month and a half. We've got sunny,
blue skies and sunshine. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
And usually when it's a team from the mid West
that comes out, it's, you know, somebody from Ohio and
they haven't seen the sun in four months and they
get to come here and they move here. That's they
just pack up the U haul and come here. Because
of that, they're saying that the storm that will come
in Wednesday into Thursday nowhere near the punch that we

(15:18):
saw that they came through last week, but it could
put a damper on the Rose Parade. Obviously, rain is
going to fall the Wednesday night as much of a
tenth of an inch expected.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
That's not a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
But if you're camping out, if you're just going to
sit out there, but you can't have a tent on
Colorado Boulevard. The camping, they say finger quotes camping that
people are doing on Colorado Boulevard is just sitting in
a chair basically with a blanket, right, and in this
case it'll be six it's going to be you in
a chair in a blanket covered by a tarp of
some kind.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I want to say that the last time it rained
was that when Bob and Stephanie were in the booth
and they put Stephanie out in the rain, and there
was a big controversy over that. I feel like it
was that year and then the next year she was
back in the booth. We're gonna have to get to

(16:14):
the bottom of that because people lost their minds.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Here's something to keep in mind.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now, you and I are keeping ourselves available.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'm available. I am so available. I'm so available. I
stopped drinking to be available for this year's Rose Parade.
I have not had a drink in a year to
get ready for preparation. I will be sunshine and light
and all wholesome energy on that Rose Parade. You are
ready to go. You don't need to get ready because

(16:45):
you stayed ready. Yeah yeah, I mean you got to
keep a tip top right. Your hair.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Your hair is picture perfect.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
I would wear a hat that day.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, you would not think so. At these we're seeing
the Rose Parade and you're going to wear a hat,
maybe a Fedora. Yeah, maybe maybe a Fedora hat. That
would look nice, a little like Dick Nolan vibe al Roker. Yeah,
I like that, Mike Nolan's dad. It was a successful coach.
I know that was a that was that was an

(17:14):
esoterical friend. I apologize, I have football in my head. Sorry,
but Tom Landry, eh.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'll go with Tom Landry. You wear a nice.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Coat, a nice coat, a nice Fedora.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
See your sucker coat of some kind? Ye you guys.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I was out at the float barn yesterday doing a
little coverage, pre coverage.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Isn't it fun?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
It's so fun?

Speaker 5 (17:34):
And they told me rain or no rain, it's happened.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Well.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
You say something about the rose braid.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We are keeping it clean just in case we get
the call. That's why they've never called.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I might say that, you.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Will not say anything. Well, now that they know there's
a Fedora involved, there's a Fedora involved. I'll wear a stole,
you know, but dolls mink is so passive.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
If it gets wet in the.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Rain, smell like a wet dog.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Okay, maybe no stole. Now I'm excited now I'm going
to watch the Rosebery guys.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, Heather, We've campaigned for this gig for ten years,
and I feel like we've cleaned it up considerably. For like,
in the past month. I don't think we've done any genital.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Stuff that is not true.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
What I don't remember any I haven't said balls quickly.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It quickly comes and goes from your brain. It's their loss,
but it's there.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
It is their loss. Heather, Thank you, good mom, thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
All right, there was a meeting yesterday. We'll talk about
what went on a couple of the takeaways from this
meeting between President Trump and Vladimir's Volodomirslyns okay.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, and I also want to get to a couple
of reviews of our Christmas holiday special that we did
on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Oh, I don't know if I want to read.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yes, it makes me so.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Everybody loved Heather and Michael and Will and it was huge.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Everyone loved it. And Amy and Deborah. I got a
couple of comments about those two. Those two did a
great job made it. The material was good, the script
was good. All Right, I'm still smiling, Like, honestly, it
was so fun. It was you brought your daughter Channing
in like that was so special. I love told thank
you guys again. She told all her friends to listen.

(19:34):
They all were like, oh, my gosh, what's a radio.
I know it's a podcast, but live.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh God, Gary Shannon KFI AM six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. By the way, driving back into
town last night, no problems on I five Saturday. They
had to shut down I five because of that big
gas line explosion up in the hills above cast take
thirty four inch natural gas pipeline six hundred I think

(20:13):
it's six hundred.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Pounds of pressure something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
My son was in the area on Saturday night and
said he couldn't figure out what the sound was. You
could stand outside, he was a couple miles away from
it and you could still hear I mean, you could
hear the gas being pushed out by the wow before
they had were able to shut it down. But at
this point they said only a handful of non residential

(20:38):
customers actually experienced outages, So pretty amazing. A follow up
to the weather we were talking about Mammoth had somewhere
over fifty inches five zero inches of snow from the storm,
and one of their ski patrollers died after another avalanche.
And this is the second time this year that a
ski patroller has died after an av lanche while they

(21:00):
were doing avalanche control.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
The first one was back in fifth.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
They're trying to control the avalanche so it does not
kill anybody, and in doing so, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's like the setting a backfire, but the sometimes they
get out of control.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And Brigitte Bardeaux passed away.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I had not one. I bridge Bardou to me is
the pin up girl I had. And then I did
a deep dive. Wow, what an awful person, just.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
The sun stuff alone.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Things her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, because the small caption on Instagram, which is I
like pictures, it said something like later in life controversy
or whatever, and I'm like, oh, what is that?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
So of course I could do the deep dive. But
she got pregnant.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
She was so so upset about it, and she tried
to get an abortion and she couldn't get an abortion
because she's in France or what have you. And she
tried to like punch her stomach like it's all the
details are awful. She always said, I don't want to
be a mother. I don't. Well, she's pregnant after the babe,
her son is born. She's the worst thing that ever
happened to me. I mean awful to me, Like, Wow,

(22:08):
you're that awful, and you're not only keeping you're not
keeping it to yourself.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
You're that awful.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You think it's okay to be that awful in public
and with a megaphone, I mean, good riddance, Like I
don't know what else good she did in her life,
but the way she talked about her child is awful.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Huge animal activist right later in life.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Good, that's wonderful. I'm glad for all the animals she saved.
But you don't come back from that. I don't think.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Okay, isn't that awful?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It was she was not a she she had a
lot given to her early on because of who, because
of how she looked right, And I guess that's not
necessarily a surprise. But President Trump is hosting Benjamin not
in Yahoo today but yesterday hosted Volatimer's Lensky at mar
A Lago.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
We have made a lot of progress that war, which
is really the certainly the most deadly war since World
War Two, probably the biggest war since World War Two.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Our teams will continue working on all aspects. We also
had a joint productive call with European ladists like Bresident
Trump said already and a lot of leaders, including NATO
endy you, and we agreed that our teams will meet
in upcoming weeks.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
I just got to say his English is getting much better.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Nearly three hours in this meeting behind closed doors, as
they like to say, and they said that they're very
close to a deal.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
About ninety percent of the way there is.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
The way Trump put it, he said, it's those remaining
one or two very thorny issues that are going to
decide all of this. One of the other things that
Trump said yesterday was that he had spoken to Vladimir Putin.
I think it was not only you speak with them yesterday,
but today as well. But this was yesterday's comment.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
In your conversation with President Putin, did you discuss what
responsibility Russia will have for any kind of reconstruction of
Ukraine post agreement?

Speaker 6 (24:02):
I did. They're going to be helping Russia is going
to be helping Russia wants to see Ugraine succeed.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Once it sounds wait what Russia, Russia.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Russia wants to see you, Graine succeed.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Literally, hundreds of drones and missiles over the last week
have flown into apartment buildings into in Kiev. That is
not the definition of Russia wants.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
To Russia wants to see you, Graine succeed.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Ukraine succeeding.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
The comment itself is getting criticized because it makes Trump
sound like he's doing Putin's bidding for him. The big
issue that comes out of this meeting is whether or
not there will be a legally binding security guarantee as
of right now. Zelensky said that Trump is offering a
binding security guarantee that would last for fifteen years, although

(24:55):
he had asked for as much as fifty and at
this point they would consider longer guarantees, adding that they
can include how a peace deal would be monitored, as
well as the presence of partners.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
So there is some progress.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
And if that is true, if we are ninety percent there,
ninety percent on the way to some sort of a
piece deal, then that's then that is potentially good news.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
So gen zers and millennials are flocking to analog islands.
They're setting down their devices to paint and color and
knit and play board games. Isn't that lovely? I didn't
touch my phone for a series of hours yesterday.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
The whole series of hours I had. Well, I take
that back. I had two football.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Games on and the red zone, so I didn't have
access to my phone. And then I picked up my
book and I read a big chunk of that. So
there's like maybe four or five hours that I just
didn't look at my phone except I was watching I
was watching screens, I was watching games, but I wasn't
in gauge with the phone. How glorious, How glorious of

(26:03):
a time. Every time I put down my phone for
even five hours, it feels so good. And I don't
know why I don't do it more.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Because that's where you get a lot of information from.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Unfortunately, I don't need that information. People were perfectly fine
without all that information.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Well then how are people going to text you with?

Speaker 5 (26:22):
I don't need those text messages?

Speaker 4 (26:24):
What do you mean when I text you? I had
text you important things?

Speaker 5 (26:27):
You did?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You sent me an important text yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Just one I didn't follow up after you did not
follow up but again, it was during the football game.
I knew your phone was away, and I didn't want
to I wanted to acknowledge your your what's the word restraint? Yes,
I didn't want to tempt you with a message. Yes,

(26:51):
that was very nice.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You were like someone's clinging to life and then you
like got proof that the person was okay and did
not follow back up and tell me cool.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
That's not the way, not exactly a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
That was just kidding. You did the right thing. I
would have been upset if you gave me a health
update during the forty nine er game.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
We will talk.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
About analog islands when we come back. I mean manual transmissions,
maybe getting a renaissance.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I noticed in a I don't remember what show we
were watching over the weekend, but I listened to the
car as it drove away because I wanted to see
are they using an actual manual transmission for this scene
and this?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
And they were. I mean it's an older car, no,
but it was a nice, like familiar sound.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah. I'd love to have a manual transmission again.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
They just don't make them.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I know, I know. We got to get the guys
at Thorsen in here maybe they could get on board
with that.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, I mean they'll put you in a you know,
nineteen eighty three. I'm down with that something.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Day Hamburger. We are in that dead zone of where
am I? What day is it? It is if you
are keeping score or want to, it is a Monday.
It is December twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. We have
two more days I believe in this month, right and
the year and the year. So that's where we're at.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
That's where we are.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
I had to pull up two calendars to tell you
all that double.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
It is gorgeous right now in southern California. The wind
is expected to pick up a little bit today and
there will be some rain coming in later this week
or coming back, I guess you could say. But there
is a huge storm moving northeast right now, snow, ice, rain,
strong wind. National Weather Service is talking about blizzard conditions,
bad travel, especially across the upper Midwest today and into

(29:00):
the northeast tomorrow and Wednesday, and they're saying it is
intensifying quite a bit as it moves. As it moves east,
so that those New Year's Eve celebrations in New York
might be nasty. I can't imagine as cold as it
is already in New York during some of those New

(29:22):
Year's Eve celebrations when it's raining or when it's snowing,
just seems awful.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
You turn that on, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Have you heard about this Chevy Chase documentary that's hitting
on January first.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. Yeah, I've heard of it.
And speaking of Bridget Bardow and being a bad person,
I've never heard anything nice about Chevy.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Nothing good.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Nothing good.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Heather, you're a actress in the real world of acting.
Have you heard anything good about Chevy Chase or I
have not? Yeah, So this is going to hit on CNN,
I believe is airing this documentary. They say it's an
authorized documentary.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
That worries me because if he had anything to do
with it, it's going to be putting lipstick on the pig.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
He is eighty two years old.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That was a shock to me, just because I watched
Christmas Vacation every year around this time, where he's forty
five years old.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Speaking of Christmas Vacation, Yeah, did you see the guy
in Jacksonville yesterday, if you would have seen a meme
of it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't look at anything that exists in Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was a guy dressed as Clark Griswold. It did
add I did see that. That was brilliant. That was
Carolina game.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Oh it was Carolina.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, okay, yeah, brilliant. It was so good. It was
so good. So they say that the director.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Was there in the twenty twelve incident when Chevy Chase
used the N word on the set of Community and
the onset meltdown that transpired. Yeah, but yeah, going back
to SNL and all of it, there's just nothing good.

(31:07):
Nobody's come out and been like, you know what, he's
a really nice guy.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Well, and compare that to the the Eddie Murphy documentary
that came out in Deference, where he became he not
that I don't know how many people had negative ideas
of Eddie Murphy, but it came across as such a
he's so laid back, he's so relaxed. You know, you
think of these characters that were always super high energy
and you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Be high on cocaine falling off the roof of the
Chateau Marmond to be a superstar, and Eddie Murphy is
proof of that. Yeah, never touched drinks or drugs or anything.
Hung out with Rick James and never touched anything. I mean, wow,
probably pretty hard. Analog Haven's Analog Islands. There is a

(31:56):
push amongst Generation Z to get away from technology, or
at least not lean into it as actively as we
have over the course of the last couple of decades.
And I think part of it is, if you're under
the age of thirty, your life has been dominated by
the Internet and connectivity and being available twenty four hours

(32:21):
a day to anybody who wants to reach out to you.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And that's not healthy. It's not safe necessarily, and there
is a push now to get people or that people
realize it's better to unplug for vast swaths of time.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Martin Bispells is fifty seven years old. He's a former
QBC executive who recently started Retroactive. Retroactv is how You
spell It, a company that sells rock music merchandise dating
to the sixties and seventies, and he says, the past
gives comfort. The past is knowable and you can define

(33:02):
it because you can remember it the way you want.
There's also something cool about the past to people who
didn't live through it. I mean I when I was
a teenager and that the early twenties, I loved going
to thrift stores and buying stuff that belonged to dead people,
you know, stuff that was popular in the seventies where
and I did not live, and you know, it.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Was always cool to me.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Listening to music that existed before I was born was
very big to me.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I loved that.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You know, it's a reason why when Spotify came out
with that feature of how old are you, most kids
in their you know, late teens, early twenties they got
the age of like seventy three. Because it's this thing
that we all go through in adolescence or late adolescents
where you're kind of there's like a longing for a
past that you never experienced, you missed.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
It's an acknowledgment maybe that you missed out on some goods.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Exactly exactly because you're because you're all aggrieved and you're like, ah,
life sucks, it sucks. I wish I lived in the seventies.
This was Fleetwood Mac and you know, whatever it.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Is, there's a couple of a couple of brothers who
went to San Jose State University. Now heard at Silicon Valley.
There's Tesla's and Ritheans and Lucids and electric cars and
futuristic cars all over the place. But these two brothers
prob and.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
So slow that down a second, jeeve.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
He and d.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
They became enamored with manual transmissions. They said that they
saw stick shifts while driving video game cars as kids
and then riding in manual transmission vehicles where Dad and
Grandpa knew how to do this amazing thing with three
pedals and a stick instead of two, and it made

(34:59):
a huge impact on them. So that was one of
the things they wanted to do. They wanted to master
something that they knew. No one else in their school
was capable of driving a stick.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Driving stick is it's such a.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's one of those things that you hold up on
a pedestal, like I want to learn this this magic skill,
this like you know, this cool thing. It's so like
the way they put it in an article, the nuances
of a clutch, Like it's this super you know, particular
complex thing to master. I just remember getting in my

(35:34):
girlfriend's old Beater car. It was like an eighty three
hatchback of some kind, and just driving that transmission into
the ground for a week and learning like there was
never any sort of like masterclass on how to drive
a clutch. It's something you can just figure out by
doing it.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
It's it's much less of a big deal.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Once you get in there and you start doing it
and start learning it, you realize how I don't want
to say easy, but how it can be.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
And I drove a stick until twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, that was when I bought a car that was
first automatic I've ever owned, so up until then, I
drove a stick, so that eighty Yeah, we had my.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Honda a cord till twenty sixteen too.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I think that's when I think we got rid of it.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
So thirty five years I drove, which is weird because
I haven't since then.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I haven't had a time a stick.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
And I was tolding you I was listening to like
is that car a manual transmission? In the scene and
the show that we were watching. I thought to myself,
could I get right? Could I just jump right back
into a car right now?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And I think I could. But it's been ten years
since I've driven a stick.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
They're also realizing that vinyl sounds better. But I feel
like that is something that started happening. I think record
players had a resurgent twenty years ago now where kids
realize that vinyl sounds better, and then there's another another
person that they highlight in this article in The Atlantic
or sorry Fortune magazine. And she says that she has

(37:07):
started to work up in the ground swell and go
on social media about it ra random acts of cardness.
She wants more human connections in this impersonal world. She says,
anybody can send a text message that says happy birthday,
but send a card. It's a much more intentional way
of telling somebody that you care.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
She says.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
It's something that the sender is touched with her own
hand and that you're going to hold in your own hand.
Some of the people in her Facebook group send at
least one hundred cards a month, commemorating birthdays, holidays, other milestones.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Cards are cool.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I just can't wait for the card industry to catch
up with a renaissance of cards because they're not great
out there. There's a lot of some of the indie
cards are spectacular, but the mainstream ones that you see
in the Vaughns.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Are you got to go somewhere to get I bought
a card at a bookstore.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
It was just a blank card, but the art on
it was spectacular compared to the craft that you see.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's right. I mean it's nineteen dollars to buy a
card now too.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Get better? Be good?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
All right, we'll talk about what what went on up
in the hills a castaic, just the weird. Is this
a sign that our infrastructure is absolutely about to collapse
in on itself?

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I was doing uplifting stuff with the kids driving stick
shift and.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Now you're like, gas, it's going to explode our world.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
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