October 21, 2022 • 39 mins
The Cardinals take care of the Saints on TNF and even though Kyler Murray and Kliff Kingsbury had an “altercation,” they’re careers are tied to each other moving forward in Arizona. Jonas has a problem with the Niners compensation for Christian McCaffrey and a preview of Week 7 on Picks Against the Spread.
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So obviously, it's the final day of the work week
both for many people. Some of us labarne I are
still working on a Saturday. Some people grind, some people don't.
We grind and uh. And so there's a lot of
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people though that are excited because you know, they've got
the weekend coming up, and maybe the workday is starting
and they can't help. But notice as they look at
the calendar. Oh that's right, it's a football Friday, Football Friday.
Come come on, damn bo. Yeah, it is a here.
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Thanks for russ. Uh. By the way, just to ask
you a little preview into up on game, A fun
game tomorrow morning, you and t J and Plax, are
you guys going to carve out a little bit of
time to talk about Russell's laugh? Is that going to
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make an appearance at some point during the show. We
might have to we might have to please leave that
for Sam Burt. Oh, but maybe it's just maybe this
is just the Burt's thing, you know, man, don't hey,
can we hear it again? The whole quote? Can you
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give us the whole quote? Because the way he answers
and goes into it as funny as I don't even
do we still do we even have the whole quote
Russell Wilson. So, Russell Wilson was talking with the media
about his healing powers. He's got to stress like Wolverine. Yeah,
he's got it, he's got a latre, he's got all
everything going on. As the Denver Broncos are getting set
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for their matchup this weekend, which by the way, they're
against the New York Jets. And so here was Russell
Wilson talking about his healing powers yesterday, every day, uh,
you know, day by day. Obviously happy Monday night. But
I feel quickly I don't know if it's Wolverine blood
or what. By the way, the danger Witch commercials are
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so bad, are so awkward and bad that there's no
possible way he's not being a smart ass. Like I
refuse to acknowledge that Russell Wilson's not being a smart ass.
What he does the danger Witch commercials, Like, I don't
get it, dude, I honestly don't get it. But nonetheless,
Russell Wilson has got out the New York Jets this weekend.
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So there you go, are you powerful New York Jets?
Are you going to get a danger which at some
point are you think you think it's gone? It's too dangerous? Yeah,
it is, oh man, just the gift that keeps on given.
All right. Uh, so we have got some NFL to
get to. Obviously, we've got a big trade that we're
going to break down again look at another angle on
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that that I find very funny. But we've also got
a Thursday night football game to look back on. It
was the Arizona Cardinals getting right taking care of the
New Orleans Saints. Couple of pick six is basically three
touchdowns in the final two minutes of the first half
for Arizona and that was a wrap and the Arizona
Cardinals get it done. And uh. The conversation afterwards turned
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to the run in and the disagreement between Cliff Kingsbury
and Kyler Murray, where Kyler Murray has seen you don't
need to be a great lip reader to point out
that he say calm the f down to Cliff Kingsbury
and Brady Quinn popped on earlier where he jumped in
a helicopter to go film something for Big New and kickoff.
He pointed out that it gets frustrating when somebody's in
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your ear screaming at you in the middle of a game.
You can't talk back, and Kyler Murray was frustrated and
they and him and Cliff talked about that afterwards. But
DeAndre Hopkins, who took time out of his hype video
making days to point out the dynamic in the back
and forth, he was the one that was trying to
separate Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. And here's the way
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he broke it down. Both of those guys w the win.
I love to see that. Uh honestly a little bit
in part of two. The team two people are dedicated
and that focused on winning and obviously you're gonna play
his I'm not married, but from what I hear, that's
like a marriage. I mean, he's not wrong, thank you,
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ros Uh, He's he's not wrong. I mean, this is
they are butting heads. I just I find it funny
because everybody says the same thing that, Well, listen, I mean,
they both want to win, they're both fired up about it,
they're both it just it seems like these guys have
gotten into it more and more over the past few weeks.
And then you go back to you know, Cliff Kingsbury
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given Kyler Murray the headset in the preseason and saying, well,
I want him to see it's not as easy as
he thinks it is. It does feel like there's this
little back and forth that goes on. Maybe I'm reading
it wrong, but from the outside, it feels like there's
a little bit of some friction there between Cliff and Kyler.
I believe if there's not a little bit of friction
between a Hey coach and a quarterback, you're not You're
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not going in the right direction. And I just you know,
for me, historically speaking, I've always seen quarterbacks and Hey
coaches get into it, you know, or have have a
little friction, you know, and at least the good ones,
the great ones. I mean, did we not hear about
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Tom Brady and Belichick having a little frictions? Are things
going bad in Paradise? Da da da? This and that? Yeah,
you can go to any of them, you know, whether
it be Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin. Was their friction
you know, you name it, Aaron Rodgers and the floor.
You remember when they were they were talking about Aaron
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Rodgers giving uh the defensive coordinator the credit for the
wind instead of giving it to the floor when the
floor it first got there. And you know, it's it's
like what you want and all that. You just always
you just always see because they're the two biggest divas, right,
I mean, if you really think about it, who are
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the most important most uh, you know, criticized, scrutinized covered, um,
you know, employees on the team. It's always gonna be
your head coach and your quarterback and and they're synonymous
with one another is more often than not. And and
so you're going to see how those things play out.
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I mean, look at what happened with Cousins and and
uh what it was childrens Ilie, Mike Zimmer ms. Mike
Zimmer assaulted Kirk Cousins. They clearly have friction and Carrol
Russe and Carroll Russ is laughing about it now, But
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that was that was real beef with Pe Carroll. I
don't know, I don't know why why Russ thinks it's
funny now he keeps laughing, But that was really I
ain't seen no beef with Mahomes or with Alan or
anything like that. But alright, but what I will say
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is is that that this doesn't mean that this is
something that's bad. I don't think that it needs to
be at this moment in time categorized as bad. Like
right now we can look at and just say, let's
pay attention to it. Now we know that it's there,
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like we could we read his lips like you said.
But you know what, there's no reason to think that
the drama or the friction is based off of malice
or you know, a lack of a relationship. I mean,
I've told plenty of people that I love and care
about to chill the f out, you know what I mean.
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So generally speaking, you all only talk to people like
that if you're if you have a relationship with them
and you're you're cool with them, or it's straight beef
straight like and I mean straight beef like like chill
f out is on something like you know, you're talking
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bad in this situation. I don't want to hear you anymore.
I don't know you. I don't want to hear it.
Like chill out. It's like there's there's conference or there's
just like dude, chill, chill, chill out. There's there's also
the reality to what Arizona built there, and it's those
two guys need each other. Like neither one of those guys,
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Cliff Kingsbury or Kyler Murray, we're going to be either
the head coach higher or the number one pick about
the other year. Well yeah, but but it's also like that,
didn't they get a hysman together? No, no, Cliff, But
Cliff Kingsbury was very high. He was the Texas Tech. Yeah,
and that was the coach in u S with Oklahoma.
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But but he knew of him and he spoke highly
of him. But Kyler Murray's not the court of the Yeah.
Well no, yeah, he had mahomes and and he was
always very high on Kyler Murray's and spoke highly of him.
But Kyler Murray is not the quarterback of Arizona if
Cliff Kingsbury is not the head coach, and vice versa.
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And so that's like this was the perfect pairing. This
was the perfect match. It's why Arizona moved on from
Steve Wilkes. That's why they moved on from Josh Rosen.
Josh Rosen. They traded up and took in the top ten,
but they identified that these two guys together, we're going
to be the direction they wanted to go, and this
is the move that they made. So unfortunately, that's the reality.
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You guys need each other and and there's you know,
they're they're gonna butt heads like this. I think it's
funny that it happens publicly like it does, because I
think a lot of this stuff probably happens more behind
the scenes. But you know, as nothing behind the scenes anymore. Yeah,
that's you know, even behind the scenes. There's nothing behind
the scenes, so that's kind of that's out. Yeah, it's
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technology is totally changed that you know. Anytime there's any
type of something drama or fun or funny, whatever it
may be, is getting captured. Somebody's always got a phone out,
some something's always being captured. There is no behind the
scenes anymore. You would be best to approach things as
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there is no behind the scenes. Yeah. I'm a big
behind the scenes guy, you know, behind the scenes guy.
Take two. Uh, you know, thank you, Rus, thank you.
You know. That's uh, that's that's the way I operate.
I'm not one of these uh, you know, make everything public.
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You know, we have conversations behind the scenes. It's the
way I do it, but again, not everybody's built the same,
all right. It is two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knock with
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We do have ourselves something that's very funny about a
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move that was made in the NFL. So there's a
lot of movement, a lot of a lot of shake
ups in the league. We've seen odds change, We've seen
teams vault towards the top of their own conference. You've
seen a team that's clearly in rebuild mode. But there
was something that was thrown out there that doesn't make
any sense regarding this decision made in the NFC, and
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we will get to that next year on Fox Sports Radio.
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come on, man, you know this works. And by the way,
under the bridge. Obviously these guys are a so cow band,
red hot chili peppers. You know, there's a lot of
bridges though Pittsburgh, damn right, the four one to Iron
City bridges everywhere. How many bridges they got there? There
was like hundreds many. Yeah, a lot of bridge lee,
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can we look that up? How many bridges are in
the city of Pittsburgh. It's like what they're known for.
I mean, we do have the most rivers, you know.
Well yeah, I mean come on, man, who doesn't know that.
Let's go live to are I know how many bridges
are in the city of Pittsburgh inside or lead to
laugh for the latest league, you'll find a total of
four hundred and forty six bridges and four seven knows
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that many officially the most in the world, more than
venice Italy. How bad it, huh, Philip A Pittsburgh. It
does seem kind of necessary. I got an idea, what
you put some cement over those rivers and cross Yeah,
come on, crawl up a bridge, some rusted out bridge.
I can fall the you know into the water, twenty
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degree water. Come on, the bar. What are the five
bridges of Pittsburgh the five Yeah, freaking come on bar
the street or something like, let's just make up five
Pittsburgh related the Primanny, uh, the Greg Lloyd, the Liberty,
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the North Hills, and the Bad Baseball Team Bridge. Is there, ah,
Liberty Bridge, the Liberty, There's the Andy Warhol Bridge, the
Rachel Carson Bridge, the Smithfield Street Bridge, the Philip Murray Bridge,
and the Fort pitt Bridge. Considered, is the only one
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I would know for I don't even know the other ones.
I'm sure I've crossed them though. Damn man, you know
it's great. I can get I can give you the
the Inclined, the Washington Inclined. Oh yeah, those things are
awesome when you when you go up the side of
the hill. Yeah, those things are cool. I actually forget
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what the other one is, don't you know? It's awesome
about Pittsburgh, though, when you get awesome when you get
to Pittsburgh Airport. It's a smaller airport so you can
get there. But when you come from l A X
or a big airport to Pittsburgh, it's fantastic because you
can just get your stuff and roll out. But the
second you come down that escalator, what do you see, Franco, Franco,
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the immaculate reception right there, right in your very eyes.
So so yeah, there it is a little Pitchburgh Bridge
update for you. You know, I wouldn't even be able
to tell you for that's all I got for you.
That's all right, he said, Johnny Carson, Yeah, yeah, it
was one of them, Johnny Rooney, it was. There. Is
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there a Yancey thig Pin Bridge any by any chance?
Just just carryou Yeah, it's up the ants all right. Um,
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this hour, we're going to have our picks against the spread.
We're gonna spread them in the in the NFL this
weekend for you here about ten minutes from now before
we get into this, uh, this topic we're about to
get into here. It is to be very very entertaining.
We have a developing situation here and uh what did
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he say? I heard it, but I didn't hear it,
say it, yeah, just uh, I'm not going on here
behind the scenes, all right, you know things are happening,
all right, So that's get into this. Sorry, back on track,
trying to be professional broadcasters here in the midst of chaos.
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All right, thank you, Russ. Back on track here. Um,
So this is funny about the Christian McCaffrey trade. So
the Carolina Panthers trade him to the San Francisco forty Niners.
That happened late last night, and the camp in return
is a second, a third, and a fourth round pick
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this upcoming draft, and then there's a fifth round pick
in And the best part about this is that the
Carolina Panthers wanted a first round draft pick for Christian McCaffrey,
and they weren't able to find anybody that was willing
to shell out a first round pick. And so Ian
Rappaport and some others have pointed at and pointed out
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that what the Carolina Panthers got is basically close to
an equivalent to a first round pick in a second, third,
and fourth What how what do you How's that an equivalent? Like,
it's either it's either a first round pick or it's not.
A first round pick. This idea that, oh we'll give
you a second, a third, and a fourth and that's
the equivalent to a first round pick. The hell are
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we talking about here? I mean, these are these are
all a lot of scratchers anyways, but a first round
pick is much they can do all the math they
want and say, well, the way that we rank out
these draft picks and their value and their comps and
all that doesn't make any sense. You either get a
first round pick or you don't get a first round pick.
They basically took a bunch of second, uh some mid
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round picks and are going to try and turn that
into something. Well, maybe they can trade up in the draft.
For Caroline is the worst team in the NFL, they're
gonna be picking one. Overall, they're not gonna need to
trade up. Just call what it is. It's a fire sale.
Like right now, the forty Niners got the best player
of the deal. We have no idea what these draft
picks are going to turn into. And and Steve Wilkes,
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we've now we now it's very clear Steve Wilkes is
not going to be the head coach there next year.
He's clearly an interim, the fire sales underway. Robby Anderson's gone,
Christian McCaffrey's gone, Baker Mayfield. I don't know what he's
yeah done, Yeah, just I mean, but why why would
why would they bring Baker Mayfield back next year? Like
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I I just it is. They're in full blown rebuild mode.
We talked about it before the season, like, don't try
and spin it any other way. Then we didn't get
what we thought we were going to get from Christian McCaffrey.
We didn't get what we thought we were going to
get from you know, some other moves that we made. Ye,
Matt rule, that's what you wanted to take your note,
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But it's it's it's Matt Rule, it's Baker Mayfield, it's
anybody that they brought, everybody, everybody, McCaffrey. It just it
hasn't worked. And so the idea that they're going to
try and say, well they got equivalent to know, you didn't.
It's a fire sale. Just take what you got. It's
not a first round pick. You weren't going to get
a first round pick. It was the rams of niners
that it was coming down to, and you took the
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best deal you could get which is multiple later round
picks in the draft, and then you go forward just
like this this spin job that's done there to w wall.
You know they San Francisco on the trade period, they
got the best player of the deal, and they're a
better football team if today they got the best the
best part of the deal. Yes, perceivably yes, but but
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it could change. That could change. It could develop like
you know, years from now, or it could be very
very uh soon. And the reason why I could be
very soon is if he goes down and and and
he gets injured, then any draft pick is better than
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a player that isn't able to play. And and that's
you know, that's the big that's the big thing here
is if we all know what he what McCaffrey is
when he's healthy, I mean, he's he is, He's as
good as it gets. But again, that big old pronounced ginormous,
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but you know it's like right there in your face,
and you got to see it. It It came into the room.
Everybody's looking at it, and you know it's a big
butte something on it. You could put put an entire
um too long islands and there you there you go.
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You could put two chairs in front of it, sit down,
have your long island's, get back up and roll out.
It's a big butt man. Yeah, So that's that's the
key here, is that if McCaffrey stays healthy and and
can integrate into the offense, which is seemingly he should
be able to integrate into any offense because of how
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dynamic a player he is. It's just gonna be is
he is he healthy, and if he is healthy, the
San Francisco forty Niners are going to be a problem.
But if he's not, then those draft picks don't seem
so bad because it's like, for as good as he
could be, it's it's always something that's going on with
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him health wise. And you know, there's no reason to
think that once a guy is injured as much as
as McCaffrey has been, there's no reason to think that
that trend is going to just magically just stop. So
it's just interesting to think that there's the possibility that
he could end up being injured, you know, for the
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duration of his career, and then what does that mean
in terms of mortgaging your future with your draft picks?
Would have got that wasn't really able to give you
as much as he could have if he would have
been healthy. I mean, you know, it's funny about this.
Everybody knows this, but when you get an opportunity to
win a Super Bowl, if you get to a super Bowl,
you got to close the deal because there's no guarantees
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you're ever going to get back there, like Carolina had.
You know, they followed up that Super Bowl year in
which it's not that long ago, it seems like ages ago,
like that was that was seven years ago, and it
seems like that was, you know, uh ten, fifteen, twenty
years ago, completely different era of football. And they go
to the Super Bowl that year, they were fifteen and one,
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they were fantastic. They had a down year the following year,
and then they went to the playoffs in at eleven
and five, and they've had a losing season ever since.
Like it like they they've been a shell of what
they were during the Ron Rivera era and it was
kind of up and down while he was there, but
they were consistently a playoff team and they've just been
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looking for answers ever since. So like the idea, I
just I hope that when we talk about the history
of the Carolina Panthers, and everybody wants to point to well,
you know, once Matt Rule got there, stop like this
was happening and heading down this direction well before Matt
Rule got there, like they were having issues well before
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he got there, and David Tepper decided it was time
to move on. Matt Rule still owed forty something million dollars.
Maybe he takes another head coaching job in college. But
Caroline has been on the path too bad for several
years and this is basically bottoming out, correct, I mean,
but this is where we're at. You you'd like to
believe that it's bottoming out. I mean, you've got a
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new owner, so they ended up selling the franchise. You know,
you got again the fire sale that's taking place. You
got rid of raw, now you've gotten rid of your
next coach. It's, uh, you know, there's a lot going
on there there. There's a lot of moving parts since
their last playoff appearance, there twenty games under fives, A
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lot of games they've been bad. I mean, so I
just that's like when this stuff happens, like it's so
easy to pinpoint one thing or the other. But I
don't know that they've bottomed out there's still a lot
of football to be played. They could redefine their bottomed
out where they're at right now, but there could be
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a lower bottom to the bottom that they're at right
now with their bottom bottom. Yeah, yeah, it's uh. They are.
They're not good, just not good, not a good food.
They don't heal up as quickly as rest. You know. Yeah,
well listen, they still they're still banged up. They don't
have the wolverine blood. I mean, the man, you know
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this works, You got to have that wolverine all right.
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We've got our picks against the spread coming up here
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the NFL. That's coming up. But for all the latest
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(26:40):
Edmund Garcia. How bad it, Eddie? It's just not a
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Come on, Eddie, spread across the world there. Hey, did
(27:00):
you when when you were in Pittsburgh? Did you notice
all the bridges out there? Of course, how could you
not notice? Did you know the names of all of them?
I mean, what about the Roberto Clemente bridge that was
not on the list? Didn't even know there was one? Yeah, right,
leads you right across into the state and yeah, yeah,
(27:24):
rescue Eddie. When are you getting back out to Pittsburgh?
I knew I wasn't going this year because come on,
does the Gordonbaks situally? I'm not going to spend the
money to go out there until they figured things out.
So we'll see. Yeah, probably, probably not for a few
more years. I think it looks like listen, you know,
(27:45):
LaVar's got some book ups out there. Make it happen.
I'd rather go see a pen State game, to be honestly,
I've never done that before. I'm going next weekend. Oh,
look out by the way fastest. I was talking with
somebody about this LaVar fastest way to get to two
Penn's to State College. Where do you fly into and
where do you drive? Here? We go just asking if
(28:07):
you're going to drive in it? Does it doesn't matter.
You could drive anywhere in and around Pittsburgh, Philly. You
could drive in Harrisburg fastest, the fastest. The quickest way
to get in there is to fly into Chicago from
here and then from Chicago into State College. There's a
direct flight from from Chicago to State College. Yeah. They
(28:27):
fill up pretty quickly though, because it's not a big,
big plane. You know, big planes can't land in um
in State College. And in fact, you get out on
the jetway, you walk down like steps onto the jet
you know the jetway. It's not like it's so big
where you can walk into you know jet way, and
it's it's up in the air. You're you're literally on
(28:47):
the ground. So and I kiss it. I kissed the
ground every single time I land and just stay college
the first thing I do when I get off the plane.
I've never kissed any It must be that Nitney line.
At me. You know what I mean, because it was like,
get off that play and I touched down. I walked
down those steps. First thing I do when I touched
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that ground. H kiss it, guys, Christian Christian McCaffrey might
be kissing the ground when he gets the bear. Yeah,
that's right. He played played at Stanford. He likes it there, right.
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So anyway, we do have news in the NFL, and
it was reported late Thursday that the San Francisco Fords
have required running back Christian McAffrey from the Carolina Panthers
in exchange for second, third, and fourth round picks and
a fifth rounder in asked for Thursday night football in Arizona,
the Cardinals, I'll score the Saints forty two thirty four.
New Orleans quarterback Andy Dalton had six touchdown passes and
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this went Two went to his teammates, excuse me, four
went to his teammates, two went to the other team.
He was picked off three times and they returned two
of them for touchdowns. Arizona, wad see you? Andrew Hopkins
back from his PDS is mentioned. Ten catches under three
yards in Arizona stepped an eight game home losing skid
they improved the three and four on the season. With
the win, New Orleans drops to two and five. Now
back to LaVar Arrington and Jonahs Knocks and entire rack
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dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studio. Thanks Eddie, two pros
and a cup of Joe here on fs ARE. By
the way, LaVar, I did a little bit of research
for youre alright, So I'm not trying to be the
bear of bad news. But the weather forecast at Beaver
Stadium and State College is calling for temps in the
low sixties and rain next Saturday. So they're trying to
(30:36):
rain out your big celebration. You can't rain it out.
Shouldn't clear up by halftime, now, are you gonna So
this is halftime they're doing the big you know, college
football Hall of Fame send off and all that. It's
at halftime, right it is, Yeah, alright, so it shouldn't
clear out by that, but we're gonna be We're gonna
see temps probably in the fifties, doesn't matter. That's that's horrible,
(30:57):
virto It's very it's very hurtful. Oh you gradulated, LaVar,
yet not just kidding, very hurtful, perfect respectful. Yeah, I
think so. I think so just make everything racist. Um.
(31:17):
By the way, uh Russell Wilson is joining us here
on Fox Sports. Rush your thoughts on LaVar and having
to celebrate his Hall of Fame ceremony in the rain
next weekend. I don't think it's funny. Rush. The door
wasn't locked to the restroom. You walked in on Jonas
and you saw what What was your reaction when you
(31:38):
saw him? Russ? Uh? Yeah, you're wrong. It is two
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So Brady will be We'll give me giving you a
Brady's picks coming up here shortly as we get into that,
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and so away we go. It is our picks against
the spread here on five Sports Radio. As we are
getting ready and fired up. Hey, by the way, Lee,
we forgot to do our over under recap. Do you
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have that on hand? By any chance? I do have
an over under? How do we do last night and
over unders? Well, we did pretty good total points. We
had over on the forty four and a half. Jonas
and LaVar you both hit that. Yeah, we were all
bullish on Kyler Murray hitting the over of two eighty
four and a half for rushing and passing. The actually
hit the under on that one. He only had to
(34:28):
our four passing thirty rushing receiving yards actually receiving catches
for DeAndre Hopkins, we had five and a half. Jonas
and Brady, you guys hit the over on that one.
Is in here, that's correct, LaVar. I'm sorry, Idio, it
was just didn't want to single you out there. Buddy,
Taysom Hill touchdowns, we all hit the over on that.
He had a receiving touchdown, and then players who attempt
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to pass. He also had a pass for these Saints,
so that we had the over on one and a
half for the Saints players. So how do we do one?
Then you tied Brady, LaVar and Jonas. You took a
lead this week. Yeah, back where I belong. It's a
very very close nick and going forward? Yeah yeah, all right,
(35:14):
all right, so let's get to our come on, it's over.
We're gonna get to our picks against the spread. We're
gonna spread him now, LaVar, Let's spread him. We're gonna
spread him right now. Here are picks against the spread.
All right, So away we go lead the lab. What
do we got? We'll just also, I don't need to
recap the whole thing, but Jonas, I gotta give you
a pet on the back on this one. You went
five and oh on picks against the spread knocks locks,
(35:40):
I don't want to play. Yeah, LaVar, you were very
bullish on the Giants winning outright against the Ravens. You
called that right on the windland. See, it's like going
to something some other kid's birthday party when you're younger,
you gotta look a little baggy to take with you.
You also got the rams? Was that? Was that the
gift baggy LaVar got at somebody else's birthday party? Remember that?
(36:05):
You get like a ring pop and like, you know,
a couple of Smarties and it's like, hey, thanks for coming,
kiss my ass. That kid got boxes of presents. Yeah,
all right, all right, let's all right, you guys. We
had a bit of a swing after the Christian McCaffrey trade.
Bucks are now thirteen point favorites. They were eleven point
favorites at Carolina, So yeah, bucks are thirteen point favorites, LaVar.
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Who do you got in this one? H I clearly
have the Bucks and and you know what, I'm gonna
take the over on that they're gonna get more than thirteen.
They win about more than thirteen. I'll take Tampa Bay.
Carolina is the worst team in the league, as we
pointed out, and at some point Tampa Bay has got
to start looking like Tampa Bay or we got problems
(36:49):
long term. I will definitely take the box. Did Brady
go with the Boxes? Well too, Brady did go with
the Bucks. He laid the points on the sweep. All right?
What else? Lions at the Cowboys return of deck Rescott,
Deck is back touchdown favorites at home? Who do you got, Jonas?
I'll take Dallas minus seven? Come on, man, Dack's back,
Dacks back Detroit. Who's an awful dee? I'm taking the under.
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Like the lines keeping a close might not even win? Wow? Wait,
what you like? The Detroit on the money line? Is okay?
All right? Do you know what I will say? For
what we do for a living, it would be ideal
if Detroit won that game? Would great conversation, It definitely would.
(37:40):
Who did Brady like there? He also took Dallas in
this game? All right? What else we got? All right?
We got the Chiefs at the Niners. Chiefs are two
and a half point favorites on the road. Jonas, who
do you got, man, Chiefs? This is tough um jiefs
repeat of the Super Bowl? Yeah, and they both just
(38:02):
lost and oh man, je I hate this pick. I
will take I'll take Kansas City. I am not. I
don't feel great about it, but I'll take Kansas City
on the road. Damn, I don't feel good about that.
Who's Brady got? He's got the Chiefs? Alright, clean sweep? Alright?
(38:25):
What el Seahawks at the Chargers. Chargers of five point
favorites at home. Jonas City he got. I'll take the Chargers.
Come on, bolt up baby, Yeah again Seahawks. Yeah now,
I'm gonna take the Hawks. Show me your lightning bolts.
Take the Hawks? Yeah? Who Brady got? He has the Chargers?
(38:47):
All right? And what's the last one? Lastly, Sunday Night
football Steelers at the Dolphins. Dolphins are touchdown favorites at home. Jonas,
come on the tour revenge game. We gat's Brian Flores?
Give me Miami? Come on now taking the Steelers. Oh wow,
he's got the Stillers. That's fine. Listen, I'll be on
I'll be on the right side of that. Come on all, hey,
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So obviously, it's the final day of the work week
both for many people. Some of us labarne I are
still working on a Saturday. Some people grind, some people don't.
We grind and uh. And so there's a lot of
(01:30):
people though that are excited because you know, they've got
the weekend coming up, and maybe the workday is starting
and they can't help. But notice as they look at
the calendar. Oh that's right, it's a football Friday, Football Friday.
Come come on, damn bo. Yeah, it is a here.
(02:02):
Thanks for russ. Uh. By the way, just to ask
you a little preview into up on game, A fun
game tomorrow morning, you and t J and Plax, are
you guys going to carve out a little bit of
time to talk about Russell's laugh? Is that going to
(02:24):
make an appearance at some point during the show. We
might have to we might have to please leave that
for Sam Burt. Oh, but maybe it's just maybe this
is just the Burt's thing, you know, man, don't hey,
can we hear it again? The whole quote? Can you
(02:45):
give us the whole quote? Because the way he answers
and goes into it as funny as I don't even
do we still do we even have the whole quote
Russell Wilson. So, Russell Wilson was talking with the media
about his healing powers. He's got to stress like Wolverine. Yeah,
he's got it, he's got a latre, he's got all
everything going on. As the Denver Broncos are getting set
(03:06):
for their matchup this weekend, which by the way, they're
against the New York Jets. And so here was Russell
Wilson talking about his healing powers yesterday, every day, uh,
you know, day by day. Obviously happy Monday night. But
I feel quickly I don't know if it's Wolverine blood
or what. By the way, the danger Witch commercials are
(03:37):
so bad, are so awkward and bad that there's no
possible way he's not being a smart ass. Like I
refuse to acknowledge that Russell Wilson's not being a smart ass.
What he does the danger Witch commercials, Like, I don't
get it, dude, I honestly don't get it. But nonetheless,
Russell Wilson has got out the New York Jets this weekend.
(04:01):
So there you go, are you powerful New York Jets?
Are you going to get a danger which at some
point are you think you think it's gone? It's too dangerous? Yeah,
it is, oh man, just the gift that keeps on given.
All right. Uh, so we have got some NFL to
get to. Obviously, we've got a big trade that we're
going to break down again look at another angle on
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that that I find very funny. But we've also got
a Thursday night football game to look back on. It
was the Arizona Cardinals getting right taking care of the
New Orleans Saints. Couple of pick six is basically three
touchdowns in the final two minutes of the first half
for Arizona and that was a wrap and the Arizona
Cardinals get it done. And uh. The conversation afterwards turned
(04:45):
to the run in and the disagreement between Cliff Kingsbury
and Kyler Murray, where Kyler Murray has seen you don't
need to be a great lip reader to point out
that he say calm the f down to Cliff Kingsbury
and Brady Quinn popped on earlier where he jumped in
a helicopter to go film something for Big New and kickoff.
He pointed out that it gets frustrating when somebody's in
(05:07):
your ear screaming at you in the middle of a game.
You can't talk back, and Kyler Murray was frustrated and
they and him and Cliff talked about that afterwards. But
DeAndre Hopkins, who took time out of his hype video
making days to point out the dynamic in the back
and forth, he was the one that was trying to
separate Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. And here's the way
(05:29):
he broke it down. Both of those guys w the win.
I love to see that. Uh honestly a little bit
in part of two. The team two people are dedicated
and that focused on winning and obviously you're gonna play
his I'm not married, but from what I hear, that's
like a marriage. I mean, he's not wrong, thank you,
(05:50):
ros Uh, He's he's not wrong. I mean, this is
they are butting heads. I just I find it funny
because everybody says the same thing that, Well, listen, I mean,
they both want to win, they're both fired up about it,
they're both it just it seems like these guys have
gotten into it more and more over the past few weeks.
And then you go back to you know, Cliff Kingsbury
(06:13):
given Kyler Murray the headset in the preseason and saying, well,
I want him to see it's not as easy as
he thinks it is. It does feel like there's this
little back and forth that goes on. Maybe I'm reading
it wrong, but from the outside, it feels like there's
a little bit of some friction there between Cliff and Kyler.
I believe if there's not a little bit of friction
between a Hey coach and a quarterback, you're not You're
(06:36):
not going in the right direction. And I just you know,
for me, historically speaking, I've always seen quarterbacks and Hey
coaches get into it, you know, or have have a
little friction, you know, and at least the good ones,
the great ones. I mean, did we not hear about
(06:57):
Tom Brady and Belichick having a little frictions? Are things
going bad in Paradise? Da da da? This and that? Yeah,
you can go to any of them, you know, whether
it be Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin. Was their friction
you know, you name it, Aaron Rodgers and the floor.
You remember when they were they were talking about Aaron
(07:19):
Rodgers giving uh the defensive coordinator the credit for the
wind instead of giving it to the floor when the
floor it first got there. And you know, it's it's
like what you want and all that. You just always
you just always see because they're the two biggest divas, right,
I mean, if you really think about it, who are
(07:40):
the most important most uh, you know, criticized, scrutinized covered, um,
you know, employees on the team. It's always gonna be
your head coach and your quarterback and and they're synonymous
with one another is more often than not. And and
so you're going to see how those things play out.
(08:02):
I mean, look at what happened with Cousins and and
uh what it was childrens Ilie, Mike Zimmer ms. Mike
Zimmer assaulted Kirk Cousins. They clearly have friction and Carrol
Russe and Carroll Russ is laughing about it now, But
(08:28):
that was that was real beef with Pe Carroll. I
don't know, I don't know why why Russ thinks it's
funny now he keeps laughing, But that was really I
ain't seen no beef with Mahomes or with Alan or
anything like that. But alright, but what I will say
(08:49):
is is that that this doesn't mean that this is
something that's bad. I don't think that it needs to
be at this moment in time categorized as bad. Like
right now we can look at and just say, let's
pay attention to it. Now we know that it's there,
(09:09):
like we could we read his lips like you said.
But you know what, there's no reason to think that
the drama or the friction is based off of malice
or you know, a lack of a relationship. I mean,
I've told plenty of people that I love and care
about to chill the f out, you know what I mean.
(09:30):
So generally speaking, you all only talk to people like
that if you're if you have a relationship with them
and you're you're cool with them, or it's straight beef
straight like and I mean straight beef like like chill
f out is on something like you know, you're talking
(09:51):
bad in this situation. I don't want to hear you anymore.
I don't know you. I don't want to hear it.
Like chill out. It's like there's there's conference or there's
just like dude, chill, chill, chill out. There's there's also
the reality to what Arizona built there, and it's those
two guys need each other. Like neither one of those guys,
(10:12):
Cliff Kingsbury or Kyler Murray, we're going to be either
the head coach higher or the number one pick about
the other year. Well yeah, but but it's also like that,
didn't they get a hysman together? No, no, Cliff, But
Cliff Kingsbury was very high. He was the Texas Tech. Yeah,
and that was the coach in u S with Oklahoma.
(10:33):
But but he knew of him and he spoke highly
of him. But Kyler Murray's not the court of the Yeah.
Well no, yeah, he had mahomes and and he was
always very high on Kyler Murray's and spoke highly of him.
But Kyler Murray is not the quarterback of Arizona if
Cliff Kingsbury is not the head coach, and vice versa.
(10:54):
And so that's like this was the perfect pairing. This
was the perfect match. It's why Arizona moved on from
Steve Wilkes. That's why they moved on from Josh Rosen.
Josh Rosen. They traded up and took in the top ten,
but they identified that these two guys together, we're going
to be the direction they wanted to go, and this
is the move that they made. So unfortunately, that's the reality.
(11:17):
You guys need each other and and there's you know,
they're they're gonna butt heads like this. I think it's
funny that it happens publicly like it does, because I
think a lot of this stuff probably happens more behind
the scenes. But you know, as nothing behind the scenes anymore. Yeah,
that's you know, even behind the scenes. There's nothing behind
the scenes, so that's kind of that's out. Yeah, it's
(11:39):
technology is totally changed that you know. Anytime there's any
type of something drama or fun or funny, whatever it
may be, is getting captured. Somebody's always got a phone out,
some something's always being captured. There is no behind the
scenes anymore. You would be best to approach things as
(12:02):
there is no behind the scenes. Yeah. I'm a big
behind the scenes guy, you know, behind the scenes guy.
Take two. Uh, you know, thank you, Rus, thank you.
You know. That's uh, that's that's the way I operate.
I'm not one of these uh, you know, make everything public.
(12:22):
You know, we have conversations behind the scenes. It's the
way I do it, but again, not everybody's built the same,
all right. It is two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knock with
the here on FS are coming up and we'll call
it a little about ten minutes from now here on
Fox Sports Radio here from the Tirac dot Com studios.
We do have ourselves something that's very funny about a
(12:45):
move that was made in the NFL. So there's a
lot of movement, a lot of a lot of shake
ups in the league. We've seen odds change, We've seen
teams vault towards the top of their own conference. You've
seen a team that's clearly in rebuild mode. But there
was something that was thrown out there that doesn't make
any sense regarding this decision made in the NFC, and
(13:05):
we will get to that next year on Fox Sports Radio.
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(13:26):
come on, man, you know this works. And by the way,
under the bridge. Obviously these guys are a so cow band,
red hot chili peppers. You know, there's a lot of
bridges though Pittsburgh, damn right, the four one to Iron
City bridges everywhere. How many bridges they got there? There
was like hundreds many. Yeah, a lot of bridge lee,
(13:48):
can we look that up? How many bridges are in
the city of Pittsburgh. It's like what they're known for.
I mean, we do have the most rivers, you know.
Well yeah, I mean come on, man, who doesn't know that.
Let's go live to are I know how many bridges
are in the city of Pittsburgh inside or lead to
laugh for the latest league, you'll find a total of
four hundred and forty six bridges and four seven knows
(14:11):
that many officially the most in the world, more than
venice Italy. How bad it, huh, Philip A Pittsburgh. It
does seem kind of necessary. I got an idea, what
you put some cement over those rivers and cross Yeah,
come on, crawl up a bridge, some rusted out bridge.
I can fall the you know into the water, twenty
(14:34):
degree water. Come on, the bar. What are the five
bridges of Pittsburgh the five Yeah, freaking come on bar
the street or something like, let's just make up five
Pittsburgh related the Primanny, uh, the Greg Lloyd, the Liberty,
(14:59):
the North Hills, and the Bad Baseball Team Bridge. Is there, ah,
Liberty Bridge, the Liberty, There's the Andy Warhol Bridge, the
Rachel Carson Bridge, the Smithfield Street Bridge, the Philip Murray Bridge,
and the Fort pitt Bridge. Considered, is the only one
(15:22):
I would know for I don't even know the other ones.
I'm sure I've crossed them though. Damn man, you know
it's great. I can get I can give you the
the Inclined, the Washington Inclined. Oh yeah, those things are
awesome when you when you go up the side of
the hill. Yeah, those things are cool. I actually forget
(15:42):
what the other one is, don't you know? It's awesome
about Pittsburgh, though, when you get awesome when you get
to Pittsburgh Airport. It's a smaller airport so you can
get there. But when you come from l A X
or a big airport to Pittsburgh, it's fantastic because you
can just get your stuff and roll out. But the
second you come down that escalator, what do you see, Franco, Franco,
(16:02):
the immaculate reception right there, right in your very eyes.
So so yeah, there it is a little Pitchburgh Bridge
update for you. You know, I wouldn't even be able
to tell you for that's all I got for you.
That's all right, he said, Johnny Carson, Yeah, yeah, it
was one of them, Johnny Rooney, it was. There. Is
(16:30):
there a Yancey thig Pin Bridge any by any chance?
Just just carryou Yeah, it's up the ants all right. Um,
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(16:51):
this hour, we're going to have our picks against the spread.
We're gonna spread them in the in the NFL this
weekend for you here about ten minutes from now before
we get into this, uh, this topic we're about to
get into here. It is to be very very entertaining.
We have a developing situation here and uh what did
(17:17):
he say? I heard it, but I didn't hear it,
say it, yeah, just uh, I'm not going on here
behind the scenes, all right, you know things are happening,
all right, So that's get into this. Sorry, back on track,
trying to be professional broadcasters here in the midst of chaos.
(17:37):
All right, thank you, Russ. Back on track here. Um,
So this is funny about the Christian McCaffrey trade. So
the Carolina Panthers trade him to the San Francisco forty Niners.
That happened late last night, and the camp in return
is a second, a third, and a fourth round pick
(17:58):
this upcoming draft, and then there's a fifth round pick
in And the best part about this is that the
Carolina Panthers wanted a first round draft pick for Christian McCaffrey,
and they weren't able to find anybody that was willing
to shell out a first round pick. And so Ian
Rappaport and some others have pointed at and pointed out
(18:19):
that what the Carolina Panthers got is basically close to
an equivalent to a first round pick in a second, third,
and fourth What how what do you How's that an equivalent? Like,
it's either it's either a first round pick or it's not.
A first round pick. This idea that, oh we'll give
you a second, a third, and a fourth and that's
the equivalent to a first round pick. The hell are
(18:40):
we talking about here? I mean, these are these are
all a lot of scratchers anyways, but a first round
pick is much they can do all the math they
want and say, well, the way that we rank out
these draft picks and their value and their comps and
all that doesn't make any sense. You either get a
first round pick or you don't get a first round pick.
They basically took a bunch of second, uh some mid
(19:02):
round picks and are going to try and turn that
into something. Well, maybe they can trade up in the draft.
For Caroline is the worst team in the NFL, they're
gonna be picking one. Overall, they're not gonna need to
trade up. Just call what it is. It's a fire sale.
Like right now, the forty Niners got the best player
of the deal. We have no idea what these draft
picks are going to turn into. And and Steve Wilkes,
(19:22):
we've now we now it's very clear Steve Wilkes is
not going to be the head coach there next year.
He's clearly an interim, the fire sales underway. Robby Anderson's gone,
Christian McCaffrey's gone, Baker Mayfield. I don't know what he's
yeah done, Yeah, just I mean, but why why would
why would they bring Baker Mayfield back next year? Like
(19:45):
I I just it is. They're in full blown rebuild mode.
We talked about it before the season, like, don't try
and spin it any other way. Then we didn't get
what we thought we were going to get from Christian McCaffrey.
We didn't get what we thought we were going to
get from you know, some other moves that we made. Ye,
Matt rule, that's what you wanted to take your note,
(20:05):
But it's it's it's Matt Rule, it's Baker Mayfield, it's
anybody that they brought, everybody, everybody, McCaffrey. It just it
hasn't worked. And so the idea that they're going to
try and say, well they got equivalent to know, you didn't.
It's a fire sale. Just take what you got. It's
not a first round pick. You weren't going to get
a first round pick. It was the rams of niners
that it was coming down to, and you took the
(20:28):
best deal you could get which is multiple later round
picks in the draft, and then you go forward just
like this this spin job that's done there to w wall.
You know they San Francisco on the trade period, they
got the best player of the deal, and they're a
better football team if today they got the best the
best part of the deal. Yes, perceivably yes, but but
(20:50):
it could change. That could change. It could develop like
you know, years from now, or it could be very
very uh soon. And the reason why I could be
very soon is if he goes down and and and
he gets injured, then any draft pick is better than
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a player that isn't able to play. And and that's
you know, that's the big that's the big thing here
is if we all know what he what McCaffrey is
when he's healthy, I mean, he's he is, He's as
good as it gets. But again, that big old pronounced ginormous,
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but you know it's like right there in your face,
and you got to see it. It It came into the room.
Everybody's looking at it, and you know it's a big
butte something on it. You could put put an entire
um too long islands and there you there you go.
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You could put two chairs in front of it, sit down,
have your long island's, get back up and roll out.
It's a big butt man. Yeah, So that's that's the
key here, is that if McCaffrey stays healthy and and
can integrate into the offense, which is seemingly he should
be able to integrate into any offense because of how
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dynamic a player he is. It's just gonna be is
he is he healthy, and if he is healthy, the
San Francisco forty Niners are going to be a problem.
But if he's not, then those draft picks don't seem
so bad because it's like, for as good as he
could be, it's it's always something that's going on with
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him health wise. And you know, there's no reason to
think that once a guy is injured as much as
as McCaffrey has been, there's no reason to think that
that trend is going to just magically just stop. So
it's just interesting to think that there's the possibility that
he could end up being injured, you know, for the
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duration of his career, and then what does that mean
in terms of mortgaging your future with your draft picks?
Would have got that wasn't really able to give you
as much as he could have if he would have
been healthy. I mean, you know, it's funny about this.
Everybody knows this, but when you get an opportunity to
win a Super Bowl, if you get to a super Bowl,
you got to close the deal because there's no guarantees
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you're ever going to get back there, like Carolina had.
You know, they followed up that Super Bowl year in
which it's not that long ago, it seems like ages ago,
like that was that was seven years ago, and it
seems like that was, you know, uh ten, fifteen, twenty
years ago, completely different era of football. And they go
to the Super Bowl that year, they were fifteen and one,
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they were fantastic. They had a down year the following year,
and then they went to the playoffs in at eleven
and five, and they've had a losing season ever since.
Like it like they they've been a shell of what
they were during the Ron Rivera era and it was
kind of up and down while he was there, but
they were consistently a playoff team and they've just been
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looking for answers ever since. So like the idea, I
just I hope that when we talk about the history
of the Carolina Panthers, and everybody wants to point to well,
you know, once Matt Rule got there, stop like this
was happening and heading down this direction well before Matt
Rule got there, like they were having issues well before
(24:32):
he got there, and David Tepper decided it was time
to move on. Matt Rule still owed forty something million dollars.
Maybe he takes another head coaching job in college. But
Caroline has been on the path too bad for several
years and this is basically bottoming out, correct, I mean,
but this is where we're at. You you'd like to
believe that it's bottoming out. I mean, you've got a
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new owner, so they ended up selling the franchise. You know,
you got again the fire sale that's taking place. You
got rid of raw, now you've gotten rid of your
next coach. It's, uh, you know, there's a lot going
on there there. There's a lot of moving parts since
their last playoff appearance, there twenty games under fives, A
(25:15):
lot of games they've been bad. I mean, so I
just that's like when this stuff happens, like it's so
easy to pinpoint one thing or the other. But I
don't know that they've bottomed out there's still a lot
of football to be played. They could redefine their bottomed
out where they're at right now, but there could be
(25:36):
a lower bottom to the bottom that they're at right
now with their bottom bottom. Yeah, yeah, it's uh. They are.
They're not good, just not good, not a good food.
They don't heal up as quickly as rest. You know. Yeah,
well listen, they still they're still banged up. They don't
have the wolverine blood. I mean, the man, you know
(25:58):
this works, You got to have that wolverine all right.
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
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We've got our picks against the spread coming up here
as we take a closer look at key matchups in
the NFL. That's coming up. But for all the latest
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from around the world of sports, ladies and gentlemen. When
you think about Pittsburgh, when you think about Hawaii, when
you think about Alabama, this is a man who encompasses
all of it. But he now resides in the fine
city of San Pedro. He is a legend. He is
sports talk radio Royalty. We present to the his Majesty
(26:40):
Edmund Garcia. How bad it, Eddie? It's just not a
nice little ball washing before you have alpo of the weekend.
Come on, Eddie, spread across the world there. Hey, did
(27:00):
you when when you were in Pittsburgh? Did you notice
all the bridges out there? Of course, how could you
not notice? Did you know the names of all of them?
I mean, what about the Roberto Clemente bridge that was
not on the list? Didn't even know there was one? Yeah, right,
leads you right across into the state and yeah, yeah,
(27:24):
rescue Eddie. When are you getting back out to Pittsburgh?
I knew I wasn't going this year because come on,
does the Gordonbaks situally? I'm not going to spend the
money to go out there until they figured things out.
So we'll see. Yeah, probably, probably not for a few
more years. I think it looks like listen, you know,
(27:45):
LaVar's got some book ups out there. Make it happen.
I'd rather go see a pen State game, to be honestly,
I've never done that before. I'm going next weekend. Oh,
look out by the way fastest. I was talking with
somebody about this LaVar fastest way to get to two
Penn's to State College. Where do you fly into and
where do you drive? Here? We go just asking if
(28:07):
you're going to drive in it? Does it doesn't matter.
You could drive anywhere in and around Pittsburgh, Philly. You
could drive in Harrisburg fastest, the fastest. The quickest way
to get in there is to fly into Chicago from
here and then from Chicago into State College. There's a
direct flight from from Chicago to State College. Yeah. They
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fill up pretty quickly though, because it's not a big,
big plane. You know, big planes can't land in um
in State College. And in fact, you get out on
the jetway, you walk down like steps onto the jet
you know the jetway. It's not like it's so big
where you can walk into you know jet way, and
it's it's up in the air. You're you're literally on
(28:47):
the ground. So and I kiss it. I kissed the
ground every single time I land and just stay college
the first thing I do when I get off the plane.
I've never kissed any It must be that Nitney line.
At me. You know what I mean, because it was like,
get off that play and I touched down. I walked
down those steps. First thing I do when I touched
(29:08):
that ground. H kiss it, guys, Christian Christian McCaffrey might
be kissing the ground when he gets the bear. Yeah,
that's right. He played played at Stanford. He likes it there, right.
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So anyway, we do have news in the NFL, and
it was reported late Thursday that the San Francisco Fords
have required running back Christian McAffrey from the Carolina Panthers
in exchange for second, third, and fourth round picks and
a fifth rounder in asked for Thursday night football in Arizona,
the Cardinals, I'll score the Saints forty two thirty four.
New Orleans quarterback Andy Dalton had six touchdown passes and
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this went Two went to his teammates, excuse me, four
went to his teammates, two went to the other team.
He was picked off three times and they returned two
of them for touchdowns. Arizona, wad see you? Andrew Hopkins
back from his PDS is mentioned. Ten catches under three
yards in Arizona stepped an eight game home losing skid
they improved the three and four on the season. With
the win, New Orleans drops to two and five. Now
back to LaVar Arrington and Jonahs Knocks and entire rack
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dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studio. Thanks Eddie, two pros
and a cup of Joe here on fs ARE. By
the way, LaVar, I did a little bit of research
for youre alright, So I'm not trying to be the
bear of bad news. But the weather forecast at Beaver
Stadium and State College is calling for temps in the
low sixties and rain next Saturday. So they're trying to
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rain out your big celebration. You can't rain it out.
Shouldn't clear up by halftime, now, are you gonna So
this is halftime they're doing the big you know, college
football Hall of Fame send off and all that. It's
at halftime, right it is, Yeah, alright, so it shouldn't
clear out by that, but we're gonna be We're gonna
see temps probably in the fifties, doesn't matter. That's that's horrible,
(30:57):
virto It's very it's very hurtful. Oh you gradulated, LaVar,
yet not just kidding, very hurtful, perfect respectful. Yeah, I
think so. I think so just make everything racist. Um.
(31:17):
By the way, uh Russell Wilson is joining us here
on Fox Sports. Rush your thoughts on LaVar and having
to celebrate his Hall of Fame ceremony in the rain
next weekend. I don't think it's funny. Rush. The door
wasn't locked to the restroom. You walked in on Jonas
and you saw what What was your reaction when you
(31:38):
saw him? Russ? Uh? Yeah, you're wrong. It is two
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he did actually get in contact with lead to Lap
to make sure that he had his picks against the spread.
So Brady will be We'll give me giving you a
Brady's picks coming up here shortly as we get into that,
as we take a closer look at the NFL weekend,
it is two pros and a cup of Joe from
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(32:19):
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and so away we go. It is our picks against
the spread here on five Sports Radio. As we are
getting ready and fired up. Hey, by the way, Lee,
we forgot to do our over under recap. Do you
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have that on hand? By any chance? I do have
an over under? How do we do last night and
over unders? Well, we did pretty good total points. We
had over on the forty four and a half. Jonas
and LaVar you both hit that. Yeah, we were all
bullish on Kyler Murray hitting the over of two eighty
four and a half for rushing and passing. The actually
hit the under on that one. He only had to
(34:28):
our four passing thirty rushing receiving yards actually receiving catches
for DeAndre Hopkins, we had five and a half. Jonas
and Brady, you guys hit the over on that one.
Is in here, that's correct, LaVar. I'm sorry, Idio, it
was just didn't want to single you out there. Buddy,
Taysom Hill touchdowns, we all hit the over on that.
He had a receiving touchdown, and then players who attempt
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to pass. He also had a pass for these Saints,
so that we had the over on one and a
half for the Saints players. So how do we do one?
Then you tied Brady, LaVar and Jonas. You took a
lead this week. Yeah, back where I belong. It's a
very very close nick and going forward? Yeah yeah, all right,
(35:14):
all right, so let's get to our come on, it's over.
We're gonna get to our picks against the spread. We're
gonna spread him now, LaVar, Let's spread him. We're gonna
spread him right now. Here are picks against the spread.
All right, So away we go lead the lab. What
do we got? We'll just also, I don't need to
recap the whole thing, but Jonas, I gotta give you
a pet on the back on this one. You went
five and oh on picks against the spread knocks locks,
(35:40):
I don't want to play. Yeah, LaVar, you were very
bullish on the Giants winning outright against the Ravens. You
called that right on the windland. See, it's like going
to something some other kid's birthday party when you're younger,
you gotta look a little baggy to take with you.
You also got the rams? Was that? Was that the
gift baggy LaVar got at somebody else's birthday party? Remember that?
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You get like a ring pop and like, you know,
a couple of Smarties and it's like, hey, thanks for coming,
kiss my ass. That kid got boxes of presents. Yeah,
all right, all right, let's all right, you guys. We
had a bit of a swing after the Christian McCaffrey trade.
Bucks are now thirteen point favorites. They were eleven point
favorites at Carolina, So yeah, bucks are thirteen point favorites, LaVar.
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Who do you got in this one? H I clearly
have the Bucks and and you know what, I'm gonna
take the over on that they're gonna get more than thirteen.
They win about more than thirteen. I'll take Tampa Bay.
Carolina is the worst team in the league, as we
pointed out, and at some point Tampa Bay has got
to start looking like Tampa Bay or we got problems
(36:49):
long term. I will definitely take the box. Did Brady
go with the Boxes? Well too, Brady did go with
the Bucks. He laid the points on the sweep. All right?
What else? Lions at the Cowboys return of deck Rescott,
Deck is back touchdown favorites at home? Who do you got, Jonas?
I'll take Dallas minus seven? Come on, man, Dack's back,
Dacks back Detroit. Who's an awful dee? I'm taking the under.
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Like the lines keeping a close might not even win? Wow? Wait,
what you like? The Detroit on the money line? Is okay?
All right? Do you know what I will say? For
what we do for a living, it would be ideal
if Detroit won that game? Would great conversation, It definitely would.
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Who did Brady like there? He also took Dallas in
this game? All right? What else we got? All right?
We got the Chiefs at the Niners. Chiefs are two
and a half point favorites on the road. Jonas, who
do you got, man, Chiefs? This is tough um jiefs
repeat of the Super Bowl? Yeah, and they both just
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lost and oh man, je I hate this pick. I
will take I'll take Kansas City. I am not. I
don't feel great about it, but I'll take Kansas City
on the road. Damn, I don't feel good about that.
Who's Brady got? He's got the Chiefs? Alright, clean sweep? Alright?
(38:25):
What el Seahawks at the Chargers. Chargers of five point
favorites at home. Jonas City he got. I'll take the Chargers.
Come on, bolt up baby, Yeah again Seahawks. Yeah now,
I'm gonna take the Hawks. Show me your lightning bolts.
Take the Hawks? Yeah? Who Brady got? He has the Chargers?
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All right? And what's the last one? Lastly, Sunday Night
football Steelers at the Dolphins. Dolphins are touchdown favorites at home. Jonas,
come on the tour revenge game. We gat's Brian Flores?
Give me Miami? Come on now taking the Steelers. Oh wow,
he's got the Stillers. That's fine. Listen, I'll be on
I'll be on the right side of that. Come on all, hey,
(39:08):
you know what up on game tomorrow? Jks after that, Yeah,
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