December 5, 2022 • 37 mins
The Bengals clearly have the Chiefs number and should be considered an elite squad going forward. Lamar Jackson’s knee injury is poor timing for LaVar and the team. Kenny Pickett is starting to come into his own and a preview of Monday Night Football on the Prop Bet Monster.
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buying should be. Don't look now, but the Cincinnati Bengals
are starting to heat up. The Bengals are starting to
heat up, and I think it's official they own the
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Kansas City Chiefs at this point in time. They have
now won three straight. They do it again yesterday at home,
and the Cincinnati Bengals all of a sudden not only
a threat with the injury to Lamar Jackson in the
a f C North, but you've got to start thinking
about them potentially as being one of the other teams
to look out for maybe a back to back a
f C title run for the Bengals, who do it
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yesterday at home against Casey. That's now four in a row,
four in a row for Cincinnati. They've won six of
their last seven. The Bengals are hot hot. How we're
feeling about since here moving forward? The red hot? I mean, look,
and they they've kind of proven that they can figure
some things out, whether they got Jamaar Chason there or not,
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which was to me was one of the biggest question
marks you had with this team. Is when Chase went down,
how would they be able to overcome that? And and
they kind of figured things out even in his absence.
Um And and look, this is one where I don't
know you guys feel after watching that game, but like
seeing what they're capable of that full strength we've seen
them before versus the Chiefs, Right, you know when when
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you've got to try to cover Jamar Chase and Tyler
Boyden t Higgins, it's it's it could be overwhelming. I
kind of look at it too, would say like now
they've got a ground attack on um, you know, Joe
Mix and even playing this game, pe Ryan took over.
He was just fine there. Defensively, they've gotten better. They're
a team that I think when it comes down to
the three, the Big three, I'll call it that the
a C. It's the Bengals, Chiefs and buff and Buffalo Bills,
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And it's all because there was the top three quarterbacks
in that conference. And I think when you're you're looking
at them all together with one another, it's all based
on how they match up, right, And and it's hard
to ever feel like like I feel like we always
feel like Ken City as like the Bills number I
kind of feel like the Bengals have the cancy Chiefs number,
and if they get that matchup in the playoffs, I
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think I'd be one to be feel more confident betting
on the Bengals than I would be the Chiefs. But
if it was the Bills and Chiefs, I feel more
confident be in the Chiefs over the Bills. I'm not
sure we're between the Bills and Bengals, but it's like
it's just been a crazy kind of kind of uh,
you know, past couple of years watching these teams all
play one another, but great quarterback play. Um, it was
a fun game down the stretch. I'll be I mean,
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they'll they'll they'll see each other probably again in the playoffs.
The way this whole thing is gonna work out, I
liked it. I like the fact that the Bengals look
like a team that was I mean, I guess it's
I like the Bengals the way they're looking Cincinnati like
we did this last year, like Cincinnati Like it's almost
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like they're doing it exactly the same way they did
it last year. You know, it was quiet like are
they are they good? Like can they get it done?
And then you start seeing them come on a little
bit more. And you know, a lot of teams don't
have the opportunity to garner signature wins. That's a signature
win for them, you know, if they if they continue
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on and and make a run of it, you would
look at this game and you will say, you know what,
we knew that it was turned around. Or maybe you
don't even say it needs to be turned around. You
just knew that they were hitting their stride at the
right time during the season, and that game showed up
in the Kansas City game and week what week ten?
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Week eleven? What week eleven? Um, okay, yeah, you want
to be starting to play your best football right now.
This is when you want to do it. If you're
gonna if you're gonna have your struggles and look horrible
and have your fans like virto lose faith in you,
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and and and you know, get off of social media
but which votes for a different sport. But but I'm
just saying in general, you want that to happen early
on in the season, and that once you hit that
midway point, you know, it's like you're gonna turn the
lights on and you're gonna either start to get it
done or it's just it's it's a rap and and
I tell you what I fear for the Ravens. I
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fear for them. Um, it has not been a good look.
And depending on this injury. I mean, even if Lamar
wasn't injured, they have struggled on office. They have struggled
kind of as a team, even though they have a
pretty decent record. You look at the Titans, it's I
think the verdict is that there are one dimensional team,
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Like if you find a way to stop their run,
you can beat the Titans. Like that's the that's the thing.
So then you look at the rest of the way,
I mean the Bengals and the Dolphins, you know, the Jets,
the Dolphins and the Jets. To get on the gin
yesterday doesn't mean that the Dolphins aren't a good team,
because I think they played one of the hottest teams
in the league until Garoppolo went down. But that you know,
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they still banged up to they didn't have Armstead, didn't
have Jackson the other side. So I just when I'm
looking at the a f C, I really, I mean,
the Chargers fell off the face of the planet. The
Raiders are trying to do something with it, the Browns
maybe trying to do something with it. Um. But man,
when I look at the top of the a FC,
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you're definitely going to see a top heavy, top heavy
conference with the Bills, the Chiefs, and and seemingly now
the Bengals. And I would I would, I would not
take the Dolphins out of it. I think they should
still be in the conversation. But can the Dolphins stand
up to a Bill's or Chiefs um and the playoffs?
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You know, I guess that remains to be seen. I
think there's five teams that can win the Super Bowl
right now, Buffalo, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Philly, and the Dallas Cowboys.
And I'll take my chances with those five teams and
anybody else. I just don't see his legitimate contender. And
and in the a f C now too, has got
you know, an ankle issue. He's supposed to play next week.
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But yeah, they're they're dealing with injuries. I just I think,
to Brady's point, it's Bills, Chiefs, Bangles, and then you
just kind of mix in whoever you want, whoever wins
the a f C South. You know, I'm assuming it's
gonna be Tennessee. I mean Tennessee. We saw them get
absolutely manhandled by Philly yesterday. Like you said, LaVar one dimensional.
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I just think that there's clearly been a separation. And
now Cincinnati puts themselves in that group that that a tier,
that tier top tier group in the a f C,
and everybody else can just sort of figure it out.
That's that's Tampa Bay. I just it's too inconsistent, like
we don't we don't know what we're gonna get and
they got injuries. Yeah, So Tampa Bay has been favored
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in all eleven games this season. They're the real team
in NFL history to be favored in every single game.
And I've been losing record wow every game, every game. Geez.
Even Kansas City wasn't underdog in one game, Like who god,
who do Kansas City play? They were giving up points too,
I forget who was But wow, Tampa Bay is some
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favorite in every game and they're and they're playing later
on tonight. So I don't know. The Eagles are impressive? Man?
Are the Eagles are impressive On the NFC side of it,
They're they're they're an impressive team. They're a dangerous team
Philip Philly and Dallas are the two best teams in
the NFC. Car, I gotta say, I, hell, are you
really didn't want the many playoffs? Um? I said it,
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and I'll eat my words. I mean they have, um
they've proven that. I'm I'm inaccurate with with my my
assessment and my read out of what what their season
trajectory was. Um. I I wasn't blown away by the
way they played early on. Clearly they were able to
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kick it into higher gear later into the season or
I mean into the game, but as we move further
into the season, is what I'm getting at. I think
you gotta look at the NFC and say, even if
you're you're not playing your finest football, there's really only
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maybe one or two teams that are really kind of concerning,
and that would be to me, that would be the
Eagles and the Vikings. Now I would have said the
forty Niners was the most concerning, the most dangerous, even
more so than the Eagles if Garoppolo is still in.
But now that Garoppolo is out, I say the Eagles
are the most dangerous, and the Vikings being to me
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number two. And then now I'll put I still have
some trepidation, but I'll put Dallas in there at three.
The most vikings coming around sound um breaking news. Scott
Satterfield from Louisville's taking us this Daddy head coaching about that.
It's kind of an interesting move, right You're going from
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the A C C to a team that's going to
be moving to the Big twelve. But Cincinnati was the
best job that was available though amongst like the ones
that Dion was looking at when it was Cincinnati, Colorado,
USS since was Cincinnati the best job as far as
most recent success because of Luke Fickle, Like when you
consider Wisconsin has been a little bit down obviously we
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know Nebraska, but Cincinnati has been the best of the
of the jobs that were available as far as for
Dion to look at and just what was what was
opening up here? Is that still something that's just going
to continue on now that Luke Fickle has gone. Is
this going to be they're just gonna roll right along?
I mean, he obviously left them in a good place.
I just think it's interesting that you'd leave the A
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C C for the Big twelve. You know, since Daddy
is moving to the Big twelve, comes July first, and like,
what's is are that big of a difference between the two.
I'm just Cincinnati have that much more of a of
a budget to work with, or do you feel like
you just can compete that much more so in that
conference versus you know, where you're at in in the
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A C. C. I. I just think it's it feels
more like maybe a lateral move to some degree. Maybe not,
you know, maybe it's maybe it's a bigger move. It's
just it's just kind of an interesting that kind of
caught me by surprise. Noteworthy Cincinnati football day here, Cincinnati
has got a new head coach. The Bangals are rolling,
are rolling. Yeah see that's every everybody's starting to come
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and now at LaVar is all of a sudden on
the Cowboys bandwagon. Everything's starting to come together. Mike, MIKEA.
Parsons is rolling the bar. Come on, this is this
is this a feel good segment here, let's go. I'm
you know, I'm always on his band wagon. That's I'm
always be on his. I just don't trust Dallas. I
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don't trust them. I mean they're going to the playoffs.
Can we know? I can I can see that point. Yeah, no, no,
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not still on that. Hey,
look I do media. I could listen. I could start
tomorrow and be like, Dallas is the best team in
the National Football League if I wanted to. I just
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had the ability to do that because you know, I'm
in media, and I can change my opinion because things change,
you know, like tides and tides, you know, over the
days of our lives. You know, the Jets aren't going
to the playoffs. Um, you know, Brady, you've been pounding
the table for Joe Burrow to be m v P.
Like to get some love for m v P. He's
now third behind Patrick. And I tried to tell you
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all beginning the season, like that was the guy you
need to go with because the odds and there's like
you know, people were like, oh, he's he's you know,
he's sick. You had uh pennicitist and they had to
take it out, you know all stuff. It's like, just
be patient, folks, He's coming back around. Mahomes did hit
is the first quarterback hit the thirty touchdown mark, though,
which it's tough when you've got a quarterback who is
also one of those top teams especially you can sit ring.
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I mean, I feel like it's a runaway. At this point.
The Chiefs are gonna win the a f C West.
They're still in a position to maybe get the number
one overall seed. And if Mahomes is leading in all
the passing categories, you'd have to think they would he
would get the edge. Jalen Hurts is right behind him,
So Mahomes Hurts and then Burrow and then you know
we've got to a Josh Allen. Gino Smith still getting
some love, but it does like Mahomes and Hurts and Burrow. Yeah,
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Gino Smith, another guy. Good way about that? When this
week they didn't cover, but you know good, good teams win,
great teams cover ms. Yeah, the Rams are bad, That's
what it was. An awful team. Absolutely. By the way,
do you see there was a video that was out
Kim Kardashian took her kids to the game and the
picture jumped in. The picture comes in the picture of
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Jalen Ramsy and some guys set a tweet out that
said said Kim, stay away from him. His team's already cursed,
like they can't catch a break this year. But it's
all right. They had fun at the super I mean,
she totally went entertainment. But if you can recall um,
she started entertainment. At least the popularity of it started
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with entertainment with the singer. But then it did go
to the NFL. It did transition into the NFL, so
you know it wouldn't be uh, it's unfamiliar. Yeah, well
she went she transitioned out of the NF NFL into
the n b A and and then transition Yeah wait,
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yeah porn. Can it be porn if it's like a
tape that gets out? Maybe though that it was so
it was bought, so yeah, it is actually considered to
be that is What about like Tommy Lee, Yeah, that's
still it because it was sold. Because it was sold.
Interesting even a night in Paris for the same thing.
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People may forget One Night in Paris. I've never seen
either of those videos. What are you talking about? What's
one Night? Wait? What video? Yeah, they never heard of that.
I think that's the original. I think I think Paris
Hilton is the original one to do it, to be honest,
I've heard like the hotel I don't know what what
like one Night in Paris. I think that was the
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name of the porn movie that that was released Paris
Hilton starring Paris Hilton in the Paris Hilton in Paris.
I don't know. I'm so focused on football watching the Yeah,
were they Yeah, I never saw it. Don't know what
you're talking about? Are you? Are you certain of that
every year? I don't know. It might have been it
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might have been Paris that that made it popular. I
know that was before. That came before Kim, But Kim
blew it out of a like I have no idea.
Kim knocked it out of well, I don't know how
to say it. Well, Kim was the one that made
it really really popular. Yeah, well yeah, congratulations, It's just
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common now. It's just like that's like a write of passage.
Now to get a lead video quotes apparently is well look,
you know, hey, we go back to the original point.
It's a great day in Cincinnati. So congratulations, congratulations while
we tie it all together here the team that Jalen
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Ramsey beat in the Super Bowl last year, but they
are back, the Bengals, legitimate contenders. Now Cincinnati has got
a brand new head coach the college football team, so
it's all all looking up for the city. Of Cincinnati.
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interesting subplot to the story, Brady, that you were talking
about a few minutes ago, Scott Saderfield taking the Cincinnati
job the Louisville head coach. They're actually facing off in
the Fenway Bowl coming up in a couple of weeks.
So now you've got Cincinnati versus Louisville in the Fenway Bowl,
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and now you got this guy kind of torn in
the middle. Yeah, I mean, do you think he goes
to the game because he pull a Rich Rodriguez during
Lloyd Carr's last game where he was standing on the sideline.
Everyone thought it was a bad look at Michigan, you know,
like Lloyd Carr is trying to have a send off
and there's Rich Rod kind of sitting on the sideline
waiting to take the job over. Yeah, I mean, you
can't like coach Louisville and you can't sit in the
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Cincinnati sideline. I mean, Fickle's probably already gone, So maybe
you go to that sideline. I don't know. Yeah, what
would you do, LaVar if like your two former teams,
you're you're coaching, like you're coaching Charter Oak and you
got your former team and all of a sudden, like
you're kind of torn in the middle, Like what are
we doing in the middle? If you were if you
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had just left your former team and you were on
your way to Charter Oak, I mean, you have enough
and I'm about to coach against my former team, but
you're sort of in the in in no man's land
because you're not going to be coaching Charter Oakay, they're off,
So what do you do? Like do you just stand
at the fifty yard line and and you know on
and like neutral? Do you take turns? I stand on
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the sideline that I'm going to be on. I stand
with the team and support the team that I'm going
to be on, because there's a reason why. I mean
at that circumstantial though, Like let's be honest, like that's
not that's not like a one thing fits all. Like,
some people leave under better terms and scenarios than others.
Like if if I'm Dion Sanders and I'm leaving Jackson
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State in Jackson State is playing against Colorado, then I'm
probably gonna be torn because I don't have a bad
taste in my mouth about or or any type of
you know, ill will or malice towards towards Jackson State.
That's just that's that was my place. And now I've
been able to go to a different place. But if
you left somewhere under different circumstances where you know, maybe
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you're not you know, maybe you don't like the place
you just left. I mean, it's you know, I think
it just depends. And I'm not saying I don't like
where I left. Um, I think it's a fine institution
of higher learning. Um. Yeah, but you know, they just
they don't place importance on certain things, and you know,
it just makes it different, It makes it hard, that's all. Well,
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listen that that happens, all right, So I'll be rooting
for Charter oah yeah, So um so what are we
what are we looking at with the Ravens here all right? Now?
The Lamar Jackson's banged up and he's not done for
the season, but he didn't return yesterday. And Huntley, we
know the extent of the knee injury, we don't yet,
like we just know that it's not expected end of season.
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That's a scary thing to be in right now. Yeah,
I mean he's got the contract negotiations to that. I mean,
I'm not saying that it can't work out for him, right.
I mean, Dak Prescott before he signed his big deal,
obviously had the ankle injury we all witnessed, I was
playing great football before that, still got the contract he
was looking for. You know, will that be the case
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in Baltimore? Um, depending on the injury and what it
looks like. I don't know. Um. But look, Tyler Hanley
came in played well. Um He's got a similar skill set.
He's not as dynamic as Lamar is, and we saw
a bit of a small sample size last year from
Tyler Honley. So look, I think he's capable of leading
this team, especially when the defense is starting to come around. Um,
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he's capable of leading this team into the playoffs. I
don't know what he's gonna be able to do from there,
but he's a good decision maker. He takes care of
the football. Uh. And I mean, look, they put themselves
in a position to at least that they'd be able
to be a wild card team. I mean, I think
and and listen, they're still obviously in contention for the division.
But without Lamar Jackson at full capacity, I just don't
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know how you look at them and say, all right, well,
this is gonna be a team that can compete for
an a f C title. And they've got coming up.
They've got Pittsburgh, who, by the way, Kenny Pickett starting
to starting to show a little something there, all right,
like Kenny Kenny p Hey, hey someone some of us, uh,
I'm not talking about some of us didn't believe it
this week. Huh. All right, okay, alright, first of all,
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first an can I can I justify? All right, let's
let me explain to you, just to you. So I
looked at it, and then I couldn't figure out why.
Earlier in the week Pittsburgh was favored at Atlanta. I
couldn't figure it out because I thought old and you
got a rookie quarterback. They just played on Monday night.
It's a short week, it's the second road game in
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a row on a short week. How is Pittsburgh favored
in this spot over Atlanta? And then I realized it's
because Atlanta is still not very good. And you know,
I don't I don't know when Desmond Ritter is gonna
get a look. I don't know if that's ever gonna
be gonna happen this season, because you know, Atlanta is
still kind of in the hunt when it comes to
the to the NFC South. But I just couldn't figure
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out why. And then you see yesterday. Then I'm not
saying Kenny pick It lit up the world, but he does.
It does feel like over the past couple of weeks
they've identify he's their quarterback. They're going to roll with him,
and he's played a lot better. And so if you're
the Pittsburgh Steelers, that's how we say it in the
four one two of our I don't know if you're
familiar with that, but in the four one two we
say Stellers, And it does seem like Kenny Pickett Old
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two gloves himself like they've they've got a little something
that they're rolling in Pittsburgh. Atlanta is a pretty decent team,
but they don't really know how to when when because
of yet and I don't know if that happens with
Mariota at at and end. Listen, they had the injury
to to the kid that's really good, the receiver that's
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the tight end. What what's out of Florida? What's Yeah?
I just you know, for me, I think Pittsburgh is
a team that, you know, it could go either way.
Their defense could become to play, you know, or become
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better than what they are, especially in the secondary. Um,
the offense could become better at you know, I don't know,
just better overall. I guess, um they could improve. I mean,
it just didn't look like they were going to have
a good season at first. It looked like it was
just gonna fall apart. But give them credit. I mean
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they're fighting back, they're winning some tough games, and quietly
what they've climbed to five victories. I think it is
right now. I mean, I just you know, what I
have to see. We'll have to see, but I'll say this.
We just talked about it earlier. It's a top heavy division.
It's a top heavy division, so there's the opportunity for
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teams that I don't think they're going to make the playoffs,
but there's the opportunity for that next that next wave
of teams outside of the top three or four um
that could actually maybe find their way to a wild
card spot. You know who knows. So earlier in the year,
it was a foregone conclusion. It felt like that Mike
Tomlins streak of never having a losing record was going
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to be gone this year. Just the situation was what
it was. So let me just I want to go
game by game with you and you tell me if
there's still hope that he keeps a streak alive. So
this upcoming week, Pittsburgh's got Baltimore with a backup quarterback.
I mean that's possible, Okay, at Carolina possible. So at
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Carolina we feel good about that. Then you get the
Raiders at home on a short week. It's a it's
a Saturday game, it's the Christmas Eve games. Possible win, Okay.
Then you're at Baltimore week seventeen, uh maybe, and then
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you get then you get Cleveland in week eight. Team
I mean, if if Watson looks as rusty as he
did this past week, that's that's very possible. So there's
a real chick's going to keep it alive. Mike Tellman
might actually keep it alive. He's not going to happen,
you don't think so. But it's this, would this be
his best coaching he's done. I mean since he's been
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a head coach of the Steelers, I mean his best
coaching would be winning the Super Bowl. But no, But
but here's here's here's why I disagree with that is,
you know, he had a quarterback already intact, Like he
had so many things that were already built from Bill
Kauer that Like, I think this is the first year
where he's had to really overcome a lot rookie quarterback.
You know, obviously some different you know, spots on the roster,
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teach his best player missed some time, yeah, injuries in
their secondary. Like, I think you could make the case
this has been his best coaching job because of all
the adversity that he's had to deal with as a
coach to get a winning record, especially which what would
be the record if they beat Baltimore, Carolina, Las Vegas
and then Cleveland at the end and eight and would
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would that maybe be a wild card spot because in
the a f C, Yes, that could possibly because you're
talking about I mean that the Chargers are still in contention.
You're talking about they're going to opposite direction, the direction
and they could end up there. Yeah. I mean they're
not out of it, of course, but I just I
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look at it and I go, there's like I feel
like I have more confidence that look at the Charger schedule,
Like the Chargers have a very winnable schedule down the stretch.
That feels like a team that could sneak in and
grab the seven spot. But to your point, you have
to look at teams that would have like the Jets.
If the Jets get the nine and eight, they have
the tiebreaker of them, don't they. Yes? Yeah, um, I
(27:33):
just like as far as like Mike Tomlin goes, yeah,
I mean, they were dead in the water a month ago.
No nobody thought this was even possible. So that if
they were to get to nine wins or I mean,
god forbid, they went out and they get to ten
wins and they go on a roll here all of yeah,
I think you gotta you gotta start having real conversations
about it being Mike thomas best coaching perform with the
(27:54):
Rookie Playoffs were to start today and I believe this
is updated right, Yeah, the a f C. Yeah, the
Steelers are like in the twelfth spot. Yeah, they got
a lot of work to do, but they're they're twelve
at five and seven, and they're only a couple of
games out of that seven spot. Like it's and we've
(28:15):
got what five six weeks left to go, It's not
really a couple, it's more like three because the Jets
still hold a seventh spot and they beat them head
to head. So that's what I'm saying is you've really
got other teams during competition with like the Browns at
five seven Raiders who obviously you play those two teams
Chargers Patriots. But that's the tough thing is they've they've
got to hope the Jets fall apart, and then they've
(28:37):
got obviously continue to keep kind of basically winning out.
I mean, and who knows with with the Jets, I mean,
you know, maybe the Steelers will catch a break and
the rest of the a f C O catch a
break and they'll put Zach Wilson back in there. Is
that as well too? Did you see did you guys
see McAfee when he posted the guy was like Hey, Tomlin,
let's get this win. Oh yeah, working working there. He
(29:03):
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Where do we stand on the season again? And like,
can we get this correct and get it straight? Because
you really confused a lot of people over the past,
a lot of people, a lot of listeners are concluding us,
I know everyone's everyone's upset at me. I'm sorry you guys,
(31:13):
but I can tell you this, Brady does still hold
the lead even even after an oh and five week.
Last week awful anyway, who picked for me last week?
Was that last week that I did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
we did it so badly last week? Well you know
(31:35):
Jonas also, I mean, that's that's kind of common for
this is not like, this isn't about me. We were
talking about your issues with Brady, all right, and and
here's here's the problem. I see. I blame Brady because
this has been going on for a way too long.
He gets Lee such a hard time on the air
(31:56):
that Lee gets thrown off when he's trying to read
this stuff, and then everybody gets confus use, and then
Lee forgets the math afterwards, and then all of a sudden,
Brady ends up getting like an extra two points, which
he doesn't deserve. So I feel like we're just gonna
start for so this was all the preseason the official
season starts to And by the way, I got to
defend myself here. I didn't pick for you last week.
I picked for you for over unders. So on your
(32:19):
own buddy. Oh, what's the monday? Are you sure about that? Yes,
I'm looking at it. Last week I did not make these, uh,
these awful picks the week before. We have that after
your role. He's at the neck row earlier, going at neck?
(32:40):
This was the Indianapolis the Colts Steelers game. He at
your neck? Ye, Kenny Pickett gloves. Yeah. I think there
was actually like three things though, of the things you
selected that we could even have gotten right. And that's
fair too, Yeah, that is fair at your neck a
neck playoff? Throw him up. But Brady, you are in
(33:03):
the lead. You have a commanding lead here. All right,
you guys onto this game. We're gonna start off with
first graphic showing Tom Brady's age. Will it be the
first quarter, second, third, or fourthirst? I mean, if you
want to throw that in, there's always have that as
(33:25):
an option. I mean, lea is are you? I think
that should be negative points if you take the nun Hey, Brady,
he's at your neck? Many? I mean, God, Lee, what
you're doing? Lee? They put a head out on't you? God? Danglee?
(33:46):
Why is he at your neck? So the option of
none is on the table league, Okay, negative points. I'm
gonna go with for his quarter because apparently Lee just
got defensive about how he said that. Okay, well, I'm
going to go. What were the options again? Each quarters?
(34:09):
Four of them? It wasn't pre game like you know,
he throws pre game out there sometimes, you know, so
first through fourth quarter? You know, I'm gonna just go
first quarter two. So if we we get it, we
get it better national he'd be at your neck too, Okay,
all right, heat no better than that? Alright, Lee, what's next?
(34:29):
Second Saint Saints blair to an attempt to pass? Will
it be Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill or other Saints player
Taysom Hill little razzle dazzle, Yeah, I'll go Jamis is
still the starter and Japs the starters got hurt. Yeah.
(34:53):
I haven't even paid any attention to all right, um,
but what a what a waste of offseason workouts for
Jameis Winston just to he's sitting around. That's not true.
It's great content. I love watching his workouts. Who are
the options again, Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill or other other
I'm going another. I'll go with Taysom Hill. What happens first?
(35:15):
You guys, a Tom Brady rushing touchdown, an on field
fight between both teams again, or Drew Brees actually gets
struck by lightning. I'm gonna go with b Yeah, I'll
take a fight between both teams again. I'll take a fight.
But I was persuaded by the last one. Um Marshall
Lattimore still out. Lightning doesn't strike the same spot twice,
(35:35):
so I mean, but it's possible. What do you mean
the guy from Great Outdoors who was sitting at the bar,
he got struck sixty six times on that nighting bowl.
There could always be that first time. That's that's the
one part that bothers me. And then like, if you're
standing on that exact spot where lightning struck, imagine you
being the one person that starts the trend of well
(35:58):
lightning does strike in the same place that just don't
want to be that person if you're the guy, Yeah,
I don't want to be that person. I can see that.
Good point. Good point. Fellas, who has more more catches
in the game, is it Mike Evans, Chris a love As,
Chris Godwin or yeah, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say god One.
(36:20):
I'll say Evans mm hmm. I don't know. I'm gonna
take the field Evans love God. When he's a pen
steak guy, I'm gonna take one. Finally, what's the last
last one? Does Dennis Allen have a pen and his advisor? Yes? No?
Or no visor at all? Yes, all, I'm gonna go yes,
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usually on the right side, usually a red pen. I'm sneaking.
I don't know why is at your neck though, I'm sorry.
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are starting to heat up. The Bengals are starting to
heat up, and I think it's official they own the
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Kansas City Chiefs at this point in time. They have
now won three straight. They do it again yesterday at home,
and the Cincinnati Bengals all of a sudden not only
a threat with the injury to Lamar Jackson in the
a f C North, but you've got to start thinking
about them potentially as being one of the other teams
to look out for maybe a back to back a
f C title run for the Bengals, who do it
(01:45):
yesterday at home against Casey. That's now four in a row,
four in a row for Cincinnati. They've won six of
their last seven. The Bengals are hot hot. How we're
feeling about since here moving forward? The red hot? I mean, look,
and they they've kind of proven that they can figure
some things out, whether they got Jamaar Chason there or not,
(02:06):
which was to me was one of the biggest question
marks you had with this team. Is when Chase went down,
how would they be able to overcome that? And and
they kind of figured things out even in his absence.
Um And and look, this is one where I don't
know you guys feel after watching that game, but like
seeing what they're capable of that full strength we've seen
them before versus the Chiefs, Right, you know when when
(02:28):
you've got to try to cover Jamar Chase and Tyler
Boyden t Higgins, it's it's it could be overwhelming. I
kind of look at it too, would say like now
they've got a ground attack on um, you know, Joe
Mix and even playing this game, pe Ryan took over.
He was just fine there. Defensively, they've gotten better. They're
a team that I think when it comes down to
the three, the Big three, I'll call it that the
a C. It's the Bengals, Chiefs and buff and Buffalo Bills,
(02:52):
And it's all because there was the top three quarterbacks
in that conference. And I think when you're you're looking
at them all together with one another, it's all based
on how they match up, right, And and it's hard
to ever feel like like I feel like we always
feel like Ken City as like the Bills number I
kind of feel like the Bengals have the cancy Chiefs number,
and if they get that matchup in the playoffs, I
(03:14):
think I'd be one to be feel more confident betting
on the Bengals than I would be the Chiefs. But
if it was the Bills and Chiefs, I feel more
confident be in the Chiefs over the Bills. I'm not
sure we're between the Bills and Bengals, but it's like
it's just been a crazy kind of kind of uh,
you know, past couple of years watching these teams all
play one another, but great quarterback play. Um, it was
a fun game down the stretch. I'll be I mean,
(03:35):
they'll they'll they'll see each other probably again in the playoffs.
The way this whole thing is gonna work out, I
liked it. I like the fact that the Bengals look
like a team that was I mean, I guess it's
I like the Bengals the way they're looking Cincinnati like
we did this last year, like Cincinnati Like it's almost
(03:59):
like they're doing it exactly the same way they did
it last year. You know, it was quiet like are
they are they good? Like can they get it done?
And then you start seeing them come on a little
bit more. And you know, a lot of teams don't
have the opportunity to garner signature wins. That's a signature
win for them, you know, if they if they continue
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on and and make a run of it, you would
look at this game and you will say, you know what,
we knew that it was turned around. Or maybe you
don't even say it needs to be turned around. You
just knew that they were hitting their stride at the
right time during the season, and that game showed up
in the Kansas City game and week what week ten?
(04:40):
Week eleven? What week eleven? Um, okay, yeah, you want
to be starting to play your best football right now.
This is when you want to do it. If you're
gonna if you're gonna have your struggles and look horrible
and have your fans like virto lose faith in you,
(05:02):
and and and you know, get off of social media
but which votes for a different sport. But but I'm
just saying in general, you want that to happen early
on in the season, and that once you hit that
midway point, you know, it's like you're gonna turn the
lights on and you're gonna either start to get it
done or it's just it's it's a rap and and
I tell you what I fear for the Ravens. I
(05:25):
fear for them. Um, it has not been a good look.
And depending on this injury. I mean, even if Lamar
wasn't injured, they have struggled on office. They have struggled
kind of as a team, even though they have a
pretty decent record. You look at the Titans, it's I
think the verdict is that there are one dimensional team,
(05:47):
Like if you find a way to stop their run,
you can beat the Titans. Like that's the that's the thing.
So then you look at the rest of the way,
I mean the Bengals and the Dolphins, you know, the Jets,
the Dolphins and the Jets. To get on the gin
yesterday doesn't mean that the Dolphins aren't a good team,
because I think they played one of the hottest teams
in the league until Garoppolo went down. But that you know,
(06:09):
they still banged up to they didn't have Armstead, didn't
have Jackson the other side. So I just when I'm
looking at the a f C, I really, I mean,
the Chargers fell off the face of the planet. The
Raiders are trying to do something with it, the Browns
maybe trying to do something with it. Um. But man,
when I look at the top of the a FC,
(06:30):
you're definitely going to see a top heavy, top heavy
conference with the Bills, the Chiefs, and and seemingly now
the Bengals. And I would I would, I would not
take the Dolphins out of it. I think they should
still be in the conversation. But can the Dolphins stand
up to a Bill's or Chiefs um and the playoffs?
(06:53):
You know, I guess that remains to be seen. I
think there's five teams that can win the Super Bowl
right now, Buffalo, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Philly, and the Dallas Cowboys.
And I'll take my chances with those five teams and
anybody else. I just don't see his legitimate contender. And
and in the a f C now too, has got
you know, an ankle issue. He's supposed to play next week.
(07:14):
But yeah, they're they're dealing with injuries. I just I think,
to Brady's point, it's Bills, Chiefs, Bangles, and then you
just kind of mix in whoever you want, whoever wins
the a f C South. You know, I'm assuming it's
gonna be Tennessee. I mean Tennessee. We saw them get
absolutely manhandled by Philly yesterday. Like you said, LaVar one dimensional.
(07:34):
I just think that there's clearly been a separation. And
now Cincinnati puts themselves in that group that that a tier,
that tier top tier group in the a f C,
and everybody else can just sort of figure it out.
That's that's Tampa Bay. I just it's too inconsistent, like
we don't we don't know what we're gonna get and
they got injuries. Yeah, So Tampa Bay has been favored
(07:57):
in all eleven games this season. They're the real team
in NFL history to be favored in every single game.
And I've been losing record wow every game, every game. Geez.
Even Kansas City wasn't underdog in one game, Like who god,
who do Kansas City play? They were giving up points too,
I forget who was But wow, Tampa Bay is some
(08:18):
favorite in every game and they're and they're playing later
on tonight. So I don't know. The Eagles are impressive? Man?
Are the Eagles are impressive On the NFC side of it,
They're they're they're an impressive team. They're a dangerous team
Philip Philly and Dallas are the two best teams in
the NFC. Car, I gotta say, I, hell, are you
really didn't want the many playoffs? Um? I said it,
(08:42):
and I'll eat my words. I mean they have, um
they've proven that. I'm I'm inaccurate with with my my
assessment and my read out of what what their season
trajectory was. Um. I I wasn't blown away by the
way they played early on. Clearly they were able to
(09:04):
kick it into higher gear later into the season or
I mean into the game, but as we move further
into the season, is what I'm getting at. I think
you gotta look at the NFC and say, even if
you're you're not playing your finest football, there's really only
(09:26):
maybe one or two teams that are really kind of concerning,
and that would be to me, that would be the
Eagles and the Vikings. Now I would have said the
forty Niners was the most concerning, the most dangerous, even
more so than the Eagles if Garoppolo is still in.
But now that Garoppolo is out, I say the Eagles
are the most dangerous, and the Vikings being to me
(09:49):
number two. And then now I'll put I still have
some trepidation, but I'll put Dallas in there at three.
The most vikings coming around sound um breaking news. Scott
Satterfield from Louisville's taking us this Daddy head coaching about that.
It's kind of an interesting move, right You're going from
(10:10):
the A C C to a team that's going to
be moving to the Big twelve. But Cincinnati was the
best job that was available though amongst like the ones
that Dion was looking at when it was Cincinnati, Colorado,
USS since was Cincinnati the best job as far as
most recent success because of Luke Fickle, Like when you
consider Wisconsin has been a little bit down obviously we
(10:31):
know Nebraska, but Cincinnati has been the best of the
of the jobs that were available as far as for
Dion to look at and just what was what was
opening up here? Is that still something that's just going
to continue on now that Luke Fickle has gone. Is
this going to be they're just gonna roll right along?
I mean, he obviously left them in a good place.
I just think it's interesting that you'd leave the A
(10:51):
C C for the Big twelve. You know, since Daddy
is moving to the Big twelve, comes July first, and like,
what's is are that big of a difference between the two.
I'm just Cincinnati have that much more of a of
a budget to work with, or do you feel like
you just can compete that much more so in that
conference versus you know, where you're at in in the
(11:12):
A C. C. I. I just think it's it feels
more like maybe a lateral move to some degree. Maybe not,
you know, maybe it's maybe it's a bigger move. It's
just it's just kind of an interesting that kind of
caught me by surprise. Noteworthy Cincinnati football day here, Cincinnati
has got a new head coach. The Bangals are rolling,
are rolling. Yeah see that's every everybody's starting to come
(11:33):
and now at LaVar is all of a sudden on
the Cowboys bandwagon. Everything's starting to come together. Mike, MIKEA.
Parsons is rolling the bar. Come on, this is this
is this a feel good segment here, let's go. I'm
you know, I'm always on his band wagon. That's I'm
always be on his. I just don't trust Dallas. I
(11:55):
don't trust them. I mean they're going to the playoffs.
Can we know? I can I can see that point. Yeah, no, no,
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not still on that. Hey,
look I do media. I could listen. I could start
tomorrow and be like, Dallas is the best team in
the National Football League if I wanted to. I just
(12:15):
had the ability to do that because you know, I'm
in media, and I can change my opinion because things change,
you know, like tides and tides, you know, over the
days of our lives. You know, the Jets aren't going
to the playoffs. Um, you know, Brady, you've been pounding
the table for Joe Burrow to be m v P.
Like to get some love for m v P. He's
now third behind Patrick. And I tried to tell you
(12:38):
all beginning the season, like that was the guy you
need to go with because the odds and there's like
you know, people were like, oh, he's he's you know,
he's sick. You had uh pennicitist and they had to
take it out, you know all stuff. It's like, just
be patient, folks, He's coming back around. Mahomes did hit
is the first quarterback hit the thirty touchdown mark, though,
which it's tough when you've got a quarterback who is
also one of those top teams especially you can sit ring.
(13:00):
I mean, I feel like it's a runaway. At this point.
The Chiefs are gonna win the a f C West.
They're still in a position to maybe get the number
one overall seed. And if Mahomes is leading in all
the passing categories, you'd have to think they would he
would get the edge. Jalen Hurts is right behind him,
So Mahomes Hurts and then Burrow and then you know
we've got to a Josh Allen. Gino Smith still getting
some love, but it does like Mahomes and Hurts and Burrow. Yeah,
(13:25):
Gino Smith, another guy. Good way about that? When this
week they didn't cover, but you know good, good teams win,
great teams cover ms. Yeah, the Rams are bad, That's
what it was. An awful team. Absolutely. By the way,
do you see there was a video that was out
Kim Kardashian took her kids to the game and the
picture jumped in. The picture comes in the picture of
(13:47):
Jalen Ramsy and some guys set a tweet out that
said said Kim, stay away from him. His team's already cursed,
like they can't catch a break this year. But it's
all right. They had fun at the super I mean,
she totally went entertainment. But if you can recall um,
she started entertainment. At least the popularity of it started
(14:08):
with entertainment with the singer. But then it did go
to the NFL. It did transition into the NFL, so
you know it wouldn't be uh, it's unfamiliar. Yeah, well
she went she transitioned out of the NF NFL into
the n b A and and then transition Yeah wait,
(14:29):
yeah porn. Can it be porn if it's like a
tape that gets out? Maybe though that it was so
it was bought, so yeah, it is actually considered to
be that is What about like Tommy Lee, Yeah, that's
still it because it was sold. Because it was sold.
Interesting even a night in Paris for the same thing.
(14:50):
People may forget One Night in Paris. I've never seen
either of those videos. What are you talking about? What's
one Night? Wait? What video? Yeah, they never heard of that.
I think that's the original. I think I think Paris
Hilton is the original one to do it, to be honest,
I've heard like the hotel I don't know what what
like one Night in Paris. I think that was the
(15:11):
name of the porn movie that that was released Paris
Hilton starring Paris Hilton in the Paris Hilton in Paris.
I don't know. I'm so focused on football watching the Yeah,
were they Yeah, I never saw it. Don't know what
you're talking about? Are you? Are you certain of that
every year? I don't know. It might have been it
(15:34):
might have been Paris that that made it popular. I
know that was before. That came before Kim, But Kim
blew it out of a like I have no idea.
Kim knocked it out of well, I don't know how
to say it. Well, Kim was the one that made
it really really popular. Yeah, well yeah, congratulations, It's just
(15:56):
common now. It's just like that's like a write of passage.
Now to get a lead video quotes apparently is well look,
you know, hey, we go back to the original point.
It's a great day in Cincinnati. So congratulations, congratulations while
we tie it all together here the team that Jalen
(16:16):
Ramsey beat in the Super Bowl last year, but they
are back, the Bengals, legitimate contenders. Now Cincinnati has got
a brand new head coach the college football team, so
it's all all looking up for the city. Of Cincinnati.
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about a few minutes ago, Scott Saderfield taking the Cincinnati
job the Louisville head coach. They're actually facing off in
the Fenway Bowl coming up in a couple of weeks.
So now you've got Cincinnati versus Louisville in the Fenway Bowl,
(18:03):
and now you got this guy kind of torn in
the middle. Yeah, I mean, do you think he goes
to the game because he pull a Rich Rodriguez during
Lloyd Carr's last game where he was standing on the sideline.
Everyone thought it was a bad look at Michigan, you know,
like Lloyd Carr is trying to have a send off
and there's Rich Rod kind of sitting on the sideline
waiting to take the job over. Yeah, I mean, you
can't like coach Louisville and you can't sit in the
(18:25):
Cincinnati sideline. I mean, Fickle's probably already gone, So maybe
you go to that sideline. I don't know. Yeah, what
would you do, LaVar if like your two former teams,
you're you're coaching, like you're coaching Charter Oak and you
got your former team and all of a sudden, like
you're kind of torn in the middle, Like what are
we doing in the middle? If you were if you
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had just left your former team and you were on
your way to Charter Oak, I mean, you have enough
and I'm about to coach against my former team, but
you're sort of in the in in no man's land
because you're not going to be coaching Charter Oakay, they're off,
So what do you do? Like do you just stand
at the fifty yard line and and you know on
and like neutral? Do you take turns? I stand on
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the sideline that I'm going to be on. I stand
with the team and support the team that I'm going
to be on, because there's a reason why. I mean
at that circumstantial though, Like let's be honest, like that's
not that's not like a one thing fits all. Like,
some people leave under better terms and scenarios than others.
Like if if I'm Dion Sanders and I'm leaving Jackson
(19:30):
State in Jackson State is playing against Colorado, then I'm
probably gonna be torn because I don't have a bad
taste in my mouth about or or any type of
you know, ill will or malice towards towards Jackson State.
That's just that's that was my place. And now I've
been able to go to a different place. But if
you left somewhere under different circumstances where you know, maybe
(19:53):
you're not you know, maybe you don't like the place
you just left. I mean, it's you know, I think
it just depends. And I'm not saying I don't like
where I left. Um, I think it's a fine institution
of higher learning. Um. Yeah, but you know, they just
they don't place importance on certain things, and you know,
it just makes it different, It makes it hard, that's all. Well,
(20:16):
listen that that happens, all right, So I'll be rooting
for Charter oah yeah, So um so what are we
what are we looking at with the Ravens here all right? Now?
The Lamar Jackson's banged up and he's not done for
the season, but he didn't return yesterday. And Huntley, we
know the extent of the knee injury, we don't yet,
like we just know that it's not expected end of season.
(20:38):
That's a scary thing to be in right now. Yeah,
I mean he's got the contract negotiations to that. I mean,
I'm not saying that it can't work out for him, right.
I mean, Dak Prescott before he signed his big deal,
obviously had the ankle injury we all witnessed, I was
playing great football before that, still got the contract he
was looking for. You know, will that be the case
(20:58):
in Baltimore? Um, depending on the injury and what it
looks like. I don't know. Um. But look, Tyler Hanley
came in played well. Um He's got a similar skill set.
He's not as dynamic as Lamar is, and we saw
a bit of a small sample size last year from
Tyler Honley. So look, I think he's capable of leading
this team, especially when the defense is starting to come around. Um,
(21:20):
he's capable of leading this team into the playoffs. I
don't know what he's gonna be able to do from there,
but he's a good decision maker. He takes care of
the football. Uh. And I mean, look, they put themselves
in a position to at least that they'd be able
to be a wild card team. I mean, I think
and and listen, they're still obviously in contention for the division.
But without Lamar Jackson at full capacity, I just don't
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know how you look at them and say, all right, well,
this is gonna be a team that can compete for
an a f C title. And they've got coming up.
They've got Pittsburgh, who, by the way, Kenny Pickett starting
to starting to show a little something there, all right,
like Kenny Kenny p Hey, hey someone some of us, uh,
I'm not talking about some of us didn't believe it
this week. Huh. All right, okay, alright, first of all,
(22:06):
first an can I can I justify? All right, let's
let me explain to you, just to you. So I
looked at it, and then I couldn't figure out why.
Earlier in the week Pittsburgh was favored at Atlanta. I
couldn't figure it out because I thought old and you
got a rookie quarterback. They just played on Monday night.
It's a short week, it's the second road game in
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a row on a short week. How is Pittsburgh favored
in this spot over Atlanta? And then I realized it's
because Atlanta is still not very good. And you know,
I don't I don't know when Desmond Ritter is gonna
get a look. I don't know if that's ever gonna
be gonna happen this season, because you know, Atlanta is
still kind of in the hunt when it comes to
the to the NFC South. But I just couldn't figure
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out why. And then you see yesterday. Then I'm not
saying Kenny pick It lit up the world, but he does.
It does feel like over the past couple of weeks
they've identify he's their quarterback. They're going to roll with him,
and he's played a lot better. And so if you're
the Pittsburgh Steelers, that's how we say it in the
four one two of our I don't know if you're
familiar with that, but in the four one two we
say Stellers, And it does seem like Kenny Pickett Old
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two gloves himself like they've they've got a little something
that they're rolling in Pittsburgh. Atlanta is a pretty decent team,
but they don't really know how to when when because
of yet and I don't know if that happens with
Mariota at at and end. Listen, they had the injury
to to the kid that's really good, the receiver that's
(23:35):
the tight end. What what's out of Florida? What's Yeah?
I just you know, for me, I think Pittsburgh is
a team that, you know, it could go either way.
Their defense could become to play, you know, or become
(23:56):
better than what they are, especially in the secondary. Um,
the offense could become better at you know, I don't know,
just better overall. I guess, um they could improve. I mean,
it just didn't look like they were going to have
a good season at first. It looked like it was
just gonna fall apart. But give them credit. I mean
(24:18):
they're fighting back, they're winning some tough games, and quietly
what they've climbed to five victories. I think it is
right now. I mean, I just you know, what I
have to see. We'll have to see, but I'll say this.
We just talked about it earlier. It's a top heavy division.
It's a top heavy division, so there's the opportunity for
(24:39):
teams that I don't think they're going to make the playoffs,
but there's the opportunity for that next that next wave
of teams outside of the top three or four um
that could actually maybe find their way to a wild
card spot. You know who knows. So earlier in the year,
it was a foregone conclusion. It felt like that Mike
Tomlins streak of never having a losing record was going
(25:01):
to be gone this year. Just the situation was what
it was. So let me just I want to go
game by game with you and you tell me if
there's still hope that he keeps a streak alive. So
this upcoming week, Pittsburgh's got Baltimore with a backup quarterback.
I mean that's possible, Okay, at Carolina possible. So at
(25:21):
Carolina we feel good about that. Then you get the
Raiders at home on a short week. It's a it's
a Saturday game, it's the Christmas Eve games. Possible win, Okay.
Then you're at Baltimore week seventeen, uh maybe, and then
(25:42):
you get then you get Cleveland in week eight. Team
I mean, if if Watson looks as rusty as he
did this past week, that's that's very possible. So there's
a real chick's going to keep it alive. Mike Tellman
might actually keep it alive. He's not going to happen,
you don't think so. But it's this, would this be
his best coaching he's done. I mean since he's been
(26:04):
a head coach of the Steelers, I mean his best
coaching would be winning the Super Bowl. But no, But
but here's here's here's why I disagree with that is,
you know, he had a quarterback already intact, Like he
had so many things that were already built from Bill
Kauer that Like, I think this is the first year
where he's had to really overcome a lot rookie quarterback.
You know, obviously some different you know, spots on the roster,
(26:27):
teach his best player missed some time, yeah, injuries in
their secondary. Like, I think you could make the case
this has been his best coaching job because of all
the adversity that he's had to deal with as a
coach to get a winning record, especially which what would
be the record if they beat Baltimore, Carolina, Las Vegas
and then Cleveland at the end and eight and would
(26:49):
would that maybe be a wild card spot because in
the a f C, Yes, that could possibly because you're
talking about I mean that the Chargers are still in contention.
You're talking about they're going to opposite direction, the direction
and they could end up there. Yeah. I mean they're
not out of it, of course, but I just I
(27:11):
look at it and I go, there's like I feel
like I have more confidence that look at the Charger schedule,
Like the Chargers have a very winnable schedule down the stretch.
That feels like a team that could sneak in and
grab the seven spot. But to your point, you have
to look at teams that would have like the Jets.
If the Jets get the nine and eight, they have
the tiebreaker of them, don't they. Yes? Yeah, um, I
(27:33):
just like as far as like Mike Tomlin goes, yeah,
I mean, they were dead in the water a month ago.
No nobody thought this was even possible. So that if
they were to get to nine wins or I mean,
god forbid, they went out and they get to ten
wins and they go on a roll here all of yeah,
I think you gotta you gotta start having real conversations
about it being Mike thomas best coaching perform with the
(27:54):
Rookie Playoffs were to start today and I believe this
is updated right, Yeah, the a f C. Yeah, the
Steelers are like in the twelfth spot. Yeah, they got
a lot of work to do, but they're they're twelve
at five and seven, and they're only a couple of
games out of that seven spot. Like it's and we've
(28:15):
got what five six weeks left to go, It's not
really a couple, it's more like three because the Jets
still hold a seventh spot and they beat them head
to head. So that's what I'm saying is you've really
got other teams during competition with like the Browns at
five seven Raiders who obviously you play those two teams
Chargers Patriots. But that's the tough thing is they've they've
got to hope the Jets fall apart, and then they've
(28:37):
got obviously continue to keep kind of basically winning out.
I mean, and who knows with with the Jets, I mean,
you know, maybe the Steelers will catch a break and
the rest of the a f C O catch a
break and they'll put Zach Wilson back in there. Is
that as well too? Did you see did you guys
see McAfee when he posted the guy was like Hey, Tomlin,
let's get this win. Oh yeah, working working there. He
(29:03):
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the problem bet monsters. All right, So lead the lap.
Where do we stand on the season again? And like,
can we get this correct and get it straight? Because
you really confused a lot of people over the past,
a lot of people, a lot of listeners are concluding us,
I know everyone's everyone's upset at me. I'm sorry you guys,
(31:13):
but I can tell you this, Brady does still hold
the lead even even after an oh and five week.
Last week awful anyway, who picked for me last week?
Was that last week that I did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
we did it so badly last week? Well you know
(31:35):
Jonas also, I mean, that's that's kind of common for
this is not like, this isn't about me. We were
talking about your issues with Brady, all right, and and
here's here's the problem. I see. I blame Brady because
this has been going on for a way too long.
He gets Lee such a hard time on the air
(31:56):
that Lee gets thrown off when he's trying to read
this stuff, and then everybody gets confus use, and then
Lee forgets the math afterwards, and then all of a sudden,
Brady ends up getting like an extra two points, which
he doesn't deserve. So I feel like we're just gonna
start for so this was all the preseason the official
season starts to And by the way, I got to
defend myself here. I didn't pick for you last week.
I picked for you for over unders. So on your
(32:19):
own buddy. Oh, what's the monday? Are you sure about that? Yes,
I'm looking at it. Last week I did not make these, uh,
these awful picks the week before. We have that after
your role. He's at the neck row earlier, going at neck?
(32:40):
This was the Indianapolis the Colts Steelers game. He at
your neck? Ye, Kenny Pickett gloves. Yeah. I think there
was actually like three things though, of the things you
selected that we could even have gotten right. And that's
fair too, Yeah, that is fair at your neck a
neck playoff? Throw him up. But Brady, you are in
(33:03):
the lead. You have a commanding lead here. All right,
you guys onto this game. We're gonna start off with
first graphic showing Tom Brady's age. Will it be the
first quarter, second, third, or fourthirst? I mean, if you
want to throw that in, there's always have that as
(33:25):
an option. I mean, lea is are you? I think
that should be negative points if you take the nun Hey, Brady,
he's at your neck? Many? I mean, God, Lee, what
you're doing? Lee? They put a head out on't you? God? Danglee?
(33:46):
Why is he at your neck? So the option of
none is on the table league, Okay, negative points. I'm
gonna go with for his quarter because apparently Lee just
got defensive about how he said that. Okay, well, I'm
going to go. What were the options again? Each quarters?
(34:09):
Four of them? It wasn't pre game like you know,
he throws pre game out there sometimes, you know, so
first through fourth quarter? You know, I'm gonna just go
first quarter two. So if we we get it, we
get it better national he'd be at your neck too, Okay,
all right, heat no better than that? Alright, Lee, what's next?
(34:29):
Second Saint Saints blair to an attempt to pass? Will
it be Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill or other Saints player
Taysom Hill little razzle dazzle, Yeah, I'll go Jamis is
still the starter and Japs the starters got hurt. Yeah.
(34:53):
I haven't even paid any attention to all right, um,
but what a what a waste of offseason workouts for
Jameis Winston just to he's sitting around. That's not true.
It's great content. I love watching his workouts. Who are
the options again, Jamis Winston, Taysom Hill or other other
I'm going another. I'll go with Taysom Hill. What happens first?
(35:15):
You guys, a Tom Brady rushing touchdown, an on field
fight between both teams again, or Drew Brees actually gets
struck by lightning. I'm gonna go with b Yeah, I'll
take a fight between both teams again. I'll take a fight.
But I was persuaded by the last one. Um Marshall
Lattimore still out. Lightning doesn't strike the same spot twice,
(35:35):
so I mean, but it's possible. What do you mean
the guy from Great Outdoors who was sitting at the bar,
he got struck sixty six times on that nighting bowl.
There could always be that first time. That's that's the
one part that bothers me. And then like, if you're
standing on that exact spot where lightning struck, imagine you
being the one person that starts the trend of well
(35:58):
lightning does strike in the same place that just don't
want to be that person if you're the guy, Yeah,
I don't want to be that person. I can see that.
Good point. Good point. Fellas, who has more more catches
in the game, is it Mike Evans, Chris a love As,
Chris Godwin or yeah, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say god One.
(36:20):
I'll say Evans mm hmm. I don't know. I'm gonna
take the field Evans love God. When he's a pen
steak guy, I'm gonna take one. Finally, what's the last
last one? Does Dennis Allen have a pen and his advisor? Yes? No?
Or no visor at all? Yes, all, I'm gonna go yes,
(36:42):
usually on the right side, usually a red pen. I'm sneaking.
I don't know why is at your neck though, I'm sorry.
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