December 16, 2022 • 47 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap Brock Purdy taking care of business against the Seahawks on Thursday Night Football. Nick Bosa is the latest victim of awful Roughing the Passer calls as the NFL looks to review the penalty in the future. The worst parts of the NFL Combine. It’s Tamale season as the guys preview a snow game between the Dolphins and Bills on Saturday and they discover some NFL doppelgängers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
sports Radio. So, how we feeling here? How's everybody feeling
here on a Friday morning? You know, got a lot
going on, a lot happening this weekend. I feel like
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something's missing though, Like we haven't pointed this out in
a little while. What the hell is all? That's right,
it's a football Friday. That's great yet, respect it is
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a football Friday here on the show, wall to wall
football conversation, maybe some other stuff mixed in. What else
we talked We talked about Tamali's We talked about uh well,
we can't say that again. We got dumped the first time. Yeah,
we talked about something connected to the body part of
a moose. Yes, that is that is a point. Yeah,
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that is they do. Uh so we taught Yeah, there's
been lit some dabbling in. Some other discussions here, the weather,
you know, uh, Joe Montana, Yeah, which Brady Quinn pointed
out as John Harbaugh, which it is very good facial
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structure recognition there. Although I feel like John Harbor has
got a better neck, like a better neck and his
traps are better. We look at John Harbor, he's got
a thick neck, you know, he does like what like
look at him, he's got like he's got a like
a thick neck, like good traps. He's like it's like
Brady Quinn back in the day. He would just like
it was always shoulder shrugs, like he put like you
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didn't know this, LaVar, but I would hear stories from
you know, Brady's friends who grew up with him in Dublin,
the meat Wagon and Pat. They would tell me that
Brady would have like when they would be walking to
school in the snow, he would make them put all
of their belongings in a wheel barrel with cinder blocks
that he would pick up along the way, and he
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would do shoulder shrugs in the wheelbarrel on his way
to school in the snow. Yeah. So if you ever
wondered why Brady Quinn was so jacked, not only was
it the a s, but the shoulder shrugs in the
wheel barrel on the way to school. How accurate is
that Brady? That? I mean, he just roll with it. Whatever. Yeah,
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that's fine. By the way. LaVar also apologized earlier in
the show for telling everybody to take the Seahawks plus three,
so a little honesty from LaVar. We appreciated that going down,
So LaVar made that happen. And it is the San
Francisco forty Niners, your NFC West Champions, which I think
some people thought the l A Rams were gonna be
back and that didn't work out. But it's the fort Like,
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how many teams, excuse me, how many teams are going
to end up with a winning record in the NFCUS
besides San Francisco like that looked like it was a
really competitive vision. We kept hyping it up coming into
it both West divisions and I'm looking at Seattle the
rest of the way now because they're sitting at seven
and seven. They play at Kansas City next week. I
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just that's probably an hol Yes, they host the Jets
and then Rams, so I think they can beat the right. Yeah,
they could split the eight there. The question is do
they beat the Jets to get the nine wins? That's
up in the air. I think it makes their their
season interesting because they're gonna lose one, they're probably gonna
win one, and then that's the one that kind of
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you gotta wait and see how that's going to play out.
Do you think this season is kind of a free
role for them because I mean they're picking it. Well, no,
it's a free roll, like they're picking at the top
of the draft, like like whatever happens this year. No,
like they've way I don't remember what they're win total was,
but they've exceeded expectations I think by anybody who was
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previewing this team. Like nobody had Seattle being second in
the division with a chance to be nine and eight
or possibly ten and seven if they win these next
three games. No, yeah, Arizona that yeah, that's that's long gone.
But no, like Seattle. Did anybody have Seattle sitting at
this point in the season, sitting at five hundred, competing
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for a chance to be a playoff team. I don't
think anybody had that. So to me, it feels like
they've completely exceeded expectations. In fact, I think a lot
of people probably expected they were going to be in
last in this division, and so I look at Seattle
and say, hey, a little bit of a free roll.
Who knows what they do in the draft? Bring Geno
Smith back for you know, maybe another one or two
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year deal and then just kind of rolled out there
again and see what she got. So it's not all
doom and gloom for the Seattle Seahawks. The Niners, on
the other hand, I mean, did they establish some selves
legitimate threat to the Philadelphia Eagles or there's still some doubters.
I'm still skeptical, but there's a lot of people that
are still very high on the forty Niners as being
a legit contender to go to a Super Bowl. I mean, look,
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I think there's there's a couple of things that you're
skeptical of. Like Philly has been so good this year,
I mean so good that they just haven't had that
stumble and you're kind of almost waiting for because you know,
almost every NFL team does it um, but they haven't
had it. So you know, maybe there's some skepticism or
some like waiting for that moment for it to happen
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because we haven't seen, you know, these guys do it before.
It's not like we've seen that Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni,
the Eagles going a deep run with this group um,
and then as far as the forty Niners go, my
only thing is like, again, brock Pretty has done great.
He's he's done exactly what you know they've asked him
to do. He's done a good job of executing the
game plans. But when you go back and you're watching everything,
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you're going, well, George Kittle is wide open, great play design.
You know, George Kittle both touchdowns, wide open, great play aside,
that stuff isn't overly difficult, right, Like, and it's not
like they haven't been able to run the football or
played from leads with with Pretty in there, you know
he's gonna be tested at one point, maybe not in
the regular season, maybe it won't be to the playoffs,
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but they'll come a point where he's gonna have to
put the team on his back to come back in
the game, either where they're down or a too minute
drive scenario. And that's where you're starting to find out
about him. Like, that's that That's really what whether or
not he could be the guy is going to be
based upon. Can I ask you a nerdy football question
because I'm legitimately interested in this. You've talked about that
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before where Kyle Shanahan will get guys open, and I
remember Dave Anderson told me, former NFL receiver he played
uh in Washington when Kyle Shanahan was the coordinator there.
Remember him telling me that there would be times where
they design a play and he turned around and catch
the football and practice and there'll be nobody around him.
And he's like, how did that happen? How does Shanahan
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do that? Like, like, why is he so much better
than rebody else seemingly in the league and drawing plays
up to where guys are wide open, like Kitto was
a couple of times last night. I he knows what
personnel to use and what formation or shift or motion
to use to get you in the exact look he wants.
He knows how those players are coached and based on
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his film study. So for example, with wide receivers and
then with secondary players. At some point when you're playing
in zone coverages, like you could put guys who've got
like deep third in a bind. You know, you always
hear the concept of like high lowing a defender. Well,
if you know a cornerback has the deep third, you know,
at some point he's gonna have to take a guy
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who's releasing into that zone or that portion of the field.
He's gonna have to take him deep and then so
then and then you start to look at the underneath
coverage and you're saying, Okay, what's gonna make a guy
have to run up to take the flat? And then
I can sneak a guy somewhere either running across the
field or maybe out of the backfield, or maybe he's
in line at tight end to be able to it
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that void between not the deepest shot and not the flat,
but in between where you find that that guy wide open.
He just knows how to get you in the different
coverages and give you the right personnel groupings to find
those matchups. So he'll get you wide open and zone
coverage and then in man coverage. Like anyone else, he's
he's got your various ways of you know, being able
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to you know, run a a mesh concept or you've
got you know, two or three wide receivers running across
one way and a guy running underneath the other way
and you create a natural screen for him. He's just
everyone's got those, But I think he does as good
of a job as anyone of knowing what you're going
to be in and knowing your rules of how you
coach your defensive guys and being able to then say
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at this, you know, ten twelve yards downfield, this is
where're gonna make your move to do this, and then
this guy is gonna take you, and this guy's gonna
drop you off, and it's gonna create a void for
this guy coming to that space. He just he knows
all of that. He's again he's kind of drawing up
cards for the defense. You know, you you learned defense
at a young age like he did. It helps you
know then offensively how to tackle all of that. That's awesome.
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He's fantastic man, and then they're they're really fun to watch.
By the way, too late for Brock Purdy to win
Rookie of the Year, does it? Probably he's he's creeping
up the boards. I mean pick it hasn't played that much,
so maybe he's got a he's got a spot for it.
So the the odds as it stands right now, as
far as Rookie of the Year ago, Garrett Wilson as
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your leader, followed by Christian Watson, You've got Kenneth Walker,
Chris olav and then Brock Purdy is there. Brock pretty
wins out and he puts up some pretty good. I
bet he ends up winning. I think I would say
Wilson should win it as now, so he's basically gonna
win Rookie of the Year on what seven games? Six
or seven games? I mean, I mean pickt Canny be
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in the conversation at this point. N No, I don't
think so. Sorry labar Oh, I'm not offended, okay, or
just you know, it hasn't gone by the Deonte Johnson,
apparently not a fan of Mr Bisky, that he would
like to see Mason Rudolph get a chance this weekend.
So there's that in Pittsburgh. So they got always he's
already moving past. Yeah, well, I guess Kenny pick it.
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If there's some question about who's going to play and
it's not pick it. Deonta Johnson said he'd like to see, uh,
Mason Rudolph get his chance. You know, that's always good
for the locker room. Of course, why not, you know,
just do you speak openly? Never there's never been problems
in pictures. Yeah, but i'd be The good thing is
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Deonta Johnson is not locked in his house, uh, you know,
avoiding cops like Antonio Brown is. So there's that there's
that going on. Um, all right, so do we have lead?
Do we have the updated numbers on business is booming?
Do we have the updated numbers on some over unders?
So we've got this is everybody, get ready, buckle up.
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This is the spin cycle. Leader lap is gonna put
us in because somebody's getting screwed out over as. We
recap this time to put your money where your mouth
is you life game. It's over under Hiley. So going
into this week, Brady Quinn was in the are we
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were tied and then LaVar was how many games back?
LaVar was quite a ways back, but he's uh, he's
closed the gap a little bit. He was three games
behind you. Jonas. Jonas, you were, well they're tied. Yeah,
we were tied. Brady and I were tired. I believe, Yes,
that is correct. See this is here we go again
like this, This is this is what we're doing here.
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It's every time, every time, all right? So what happened
last night? All right? Well last night we always ask
total points forty three? Jonas, you correctly, we're the only
one who hit the under on that one. Of course,
what a pessimist, by the way, I thought that I
thought they were going to score when they broke away
on that third and short, I thought he was going
to score, and then I realized that it it wouldn't have
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mattered anyways on the over under, So unless teased it. Yeah,
that then he got screwed. But which you like to
do from time and side, a little bit of a tease,
you know, huh. So Jonas just went to the league
go ahead. We had passing in rushing yards by Geno
Smith at two fifty eight and a half. This was close.
Jonas even called a shot at t passing thirty nine rushing.
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In fact, it came in at two thirty eight passing
eighteen rushing for a total of two fifty six. The
pros hit the unders on this one. Jonas, you went
with the over. That was INCREDI so they were off
by two yards. That is correct? Is Q is tied?
Come on, LaVar alright. Rushing and receiving yards by Christian
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McCaffrey was at one nineteen and a half. He had
a hundred and eight on the ground, thirty in the
air for a total of one thirty eight. He hit
the over again. The pros hit that one. Both took
the over took Hey by the way. He seems a
lot healthier in San Francisco for some reason. Well, maybe
there there's more to do. Maybe it's a long distance
relationship off the field, and oh maybe that I was
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thinking that there's just more to do. You know, you
get out, you're at the trolley's, you know, you go
hang out. And we just say if that, if that's
a long distance relationship, he's an idiot. I mean, come on, man,
I give him my career. What's the over and under
on how long they last? Long distance? Not long enough?
Six months being the number. Here we go over under. Oh,
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come on, yeah, they'll hit the over, they'll hit the over. Yeah,
are you better? Yes? Yes, let me look into that here,
I mean, do check. Let's see looking all right to
lee where we at on that? Just go ahead and
make sure clear my search history. So what was the
result on that? Lady again right now? Well, Christian McCaffrey
did hit the over on that. So the pros are
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up to one on you jonas uh number of quarterbacks
that take a snap for the Niners. Brady, was you
were correct that the quarterback that started the game with
end the game that was brock Lavard. That is correct?
You both had the over on under under, but you
both got that one. And then temperature I kick off.
We had at forty and a half. That was right
at that temperature. It was a hovering between forty and
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forty one. So that's a I said under. We all
said under on that one. So it really doesn't matter.
So I'm one, I'm I'm two behind Jonas. Now correct, La,
you are two behind Jonas. Q is in the lead one. Well,
Brady actually has a two point lead on Jonas because
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you have the two lead. Yes, that is correct. The
pros went three, three and two, Jonas went one and four. See,
I knew it. So I was the guy who was
saying from one behind, I'm one behind Jonas. Then you
are three behind Jonas? How much? Because you picked up
two games on me and you were five games behind.
I thought I was three games behind. Yeah. Again, that's
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where this funny math comes in. It's never when I
had said that. Right at the beginning of this segment,
I had gotten ahead of myself. I was looking at
the current score. I mean, I think Lee's cooking the
books here. I quit, like, come on, I'm not doing
it anymore. I'm sorry. You were within one one week.
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I don't care. You picked up two games. Why are
you going to walk away? Now you're making progress. I
don't understand. You're gonna be very happy later in this hour,
I'll tell you that. No, how about there was a
real tease, like I'm unbelievable, I'm resistant to it. Yeah,
check your phones. Uh so, I mean there's that there's
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something else that's cooking long distance, my ass, ah Man,
good for him, Man that Christian McCaffrey already got his
big contracts, successful family, NFL star man oh Man, things
are things are phenomenal for Christian McCaffrey. Al Right, it
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So
last night we had another roughing the passer penalty called
in the game on I don't know the one, the
one Chris Jones on Derek Carr was pretty bad, bad,
but Nick Bosa got pop for one and it was
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an interception that was returning. It was a staff a
pick six, and then it got nullified because there was
a roughing the passer on Nick Bosa, and so of
course everybody was pretty pissy about it afterwards, and then
Nick bo said just kinda hey, little Matthew McConaughey type
bye from Nick Bosa, and he talked about it following
the game. I landed on him, was I just kind
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of I don't know. I thought he's still had the ball.
I was kind of thinking about, well, I was going
to the ground whether you at the ball or not,
and I forgot to roll off. Um, I'm usually better
at doing that. So it was a good call, I guess.
First off, he was I mean, he was kind of
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around people like. That's the one thing I don't understand
about the rule from the NFL standpoint, is what do
you want these players to do? Like he hit him
and he was around he was like around the pocket,
Like there's other bodies and legs and people that he's
either hitting into and getting hurt. He's hitting into them,
they're getting hurt. Like, I just I don't know how
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you prevent what has always been a typical play one
of the quarterbacks in the pocket and gets sacked or
gets hit, Like you can't prevent some certain things from happening.
If the quarterback gets hurt, he gets hurt. Like I'm
I'm a quarterback and I'm saying this. I think it's
an unfair rule in the league, and I think it
obviously in that game too completely that I mean, not
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changed it to make it we're like this, you know,
sett to look like that a shot, but I mean
that game is over at that point, so I just
I hate seeing it. Honestly, I think it's awful for
the game he was. He's such a dope athlete. He
got to him again and found a way to be
going to the ground with Geno and and not putting
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his weight on top of the quarterback once they hit
the ground. The biggest, the biggest issue I have here
is is that you're putting these defensive players in a
position where they're in harm's way now, and and the
reason why they're in harm's way is because they're ultimately
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the less you have to think about, the better you
are reacting. And when you react, that's you know, you're
lessening the chance is of you getting hurt. If I'm
thinking about, Okay, how am I going to hit him?
How am I going to land? What do I do
if he lets the ball go? What do I do
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if if he still has it? Like like you're there
are so many how high am I? Am I too
low to to try to get them down? Like it's like,
am I too high to try to get them down?
It's it really is compromising these guys in those moments,
like if they're they're in the open field, if they're
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in the sack zone, wherever it may be. The way
these rules are playing out with with the contact situation
is it's really really compromising defenders. I really believe that,
and that puts them in danger and I don't know
that that's right. Um, Troy Vincent, he's the e v
P of Football Ops. Your buddy there, lav arm Uh.
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He said they're going to discuss the possibility of making
these reviewable in the off season. Yeah, believe it when
I see it, and I'll believe that it will go
longer than a year when I see that too. Because
we went down this road with roughing with a past
inter fearance after the NFC Championship game between the Rams
and Saints and it was a sham, like it was
a waste of time by the time the season was
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coming to an end. I just I don't know on
these quote unquote judgment calls, like I don't know what
the solution is other than we're at this point. And
by the way, you know, the counter to this is
going to be well, roughing the pastor calls are down
significantly from last year. But the point is in these
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big spots when everybody's talking about it, and this is
multiple times now that we can just think off the
top of our head of roughing the passer calls that
we've seen in big primetime games, it's gonna cost somebody
a playoff game like it did. And that's the that's
when I think there's gonna be some change. I'm just
skeptical where they're gonna do anything this offseason, but I
just don't see it happening. But this is the NFL.
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So congratulations, what everybody wanted and and now we get
to have more fun with the NFL and these questionable calls.
Let me ask you guys this, So this rule is
put into place to protect who quarterbacks, right because they're
the face of the franchise that they're the face of
the league. All right, what's one of the best stories
that we literally let off the show talking about brock
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Bertie There you go like like there's examples of that,
like the Jets brought in Mike White and now you
know he's been helping to uplift their offense and give
them a shot of still making the playoffs. Like you,
you go through the league and at some point you
have to realize, like it's football, man, I don't care
if it's a non contact injury or an injury that
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occurs due to contact. Guys are gonna get hurt. Quarterbacks
are gonna get hurt. And I know you're trying to
limit that as much as possible, but you can't protect
him for everything, and you and you have to at
some point to lead into some of these other stories
and some of these good stories that are out there,
and it's what makes football teams and games interesting. And
I think you know there's a need for depth there
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too at the quarterback positions. So I just I think
it's so shortsighted of the NFL to implement a rule
like this, whereas LaVar put it, like you're protecting a quarterback,
but you're actually putting defensive players now risk And on
top of that, like we have some of the best
stories right now in the NFL, or backups playing brock
Pretty playing Mike White playing you know, some of these
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things that have occurred in some cases due to injury,
in other cases just due to poor play. But either way,
you get to see new faces at that position. I
just it's tough. It's a tough pill to swallow to watch.
I think if you're a fan and you see a
pick six or a big play like that, and then
you see it wiped away for for what, Like most
people who are watching football nowadays, they don't look at
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that and think roughing the passer and and I think
the NFL really needs to take a good hard look
at the language or how the play actually occurs to
determine if it's really worth the penalty and how it's
impacting games right now, especially as we get you know,
more involved with you know, gambling and gaming, because that's
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the other thing. It's like how that ends up impacting
the game based on spreads, totals over unders and all that.
By the way, do you think it's better that it's
reviewable by somebody upstairs, or that a coach can challenge it,
like if you were if you were to fix roughing
the passer, and if this is really a point of emphasis,
like Troy Vincent said, it's going to be even even
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if the coach and can challenge and still being reviewed
by someone upstairs exactly. And by the way, the process
for the NFL is not someone upstairs. It's New York.
It goes back to the folks in New York. So
that's who you're ultimately, you know, giving the power to.
I think there's always been a thought and again I
don't mean to pick out college football is the beacon
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of hope or light of how replay should be conducted.
But you have replay officials there on site, and those
replay officials there on site are the ones actually handled
it in college football. It's an efficient process. They do
a good job in particular for the most part, you know,
ruling on targeting plays of that nature and what's within
the rule book. And the NFL can do the same thing.
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But I think you know that the NFL office wants
to have a strangle hold on everything they do and
to find consistency. Yet I think that's one of the
biggest issues is their officials lack consistency game by game
and even how you I mean maybe not the rough
in the pastor call, but a lot of the calls
that have been made they lacked the consistency that you
see in others. So I just I think you can
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clean this up a lot, but I don't know that
the NFL is willing to do that. I think it's
one of the reasons why you've seen so many people
leave the NFL office who've been on the officiating size
or the Rules of Competition committee, And you look at
the guys like you know, Deep Blandino, Mike Praira, and
I'm not speaking for them, but they leave to go
to these other jobs, and they're just like, yeah, it's
a probably a better gig than dealing with the NFL
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that just doesn't seem to want to get this thing right. Yeah,
where you're basically having to play by what the fell
rule book is and it's still pissing everybody off. Like
you imagined by the way you imagine being an official,
you know, at best fifty of the crowd likes you
at best by the time the game's over and yet
now it's being played out on national television, and wouldn't
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the officials get called forward and these people get outraged
they're the ones they get buried for it. And I
also like how people afterwards say, well, shouldn't they have to,
you know, answer questions. Shouldn't they be held accountable for
this stuff? Aren't they making calls based on the rule
book they're handed by the league? And if there's a
point of emphasis on a call that they want to
look at during a course of a season, like isn't
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that that's that's told to them? Like was it? Was
it holding? Was it a couple of years ago? Was
like holding? Or illegal hands to the face or something
like that was a point of emphasis? And then you
saw the numbers jump up and all that, Like it
feels like they're just simply doing what they're being instructed
by the league and sort of just it's kind of
a kill the messenger spot for these officials and thus
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everybody gets piste off and maybe they're all that the
wrong people. I don't know. I just I don't see
how this is going to get solved. But you know,
maybe LaVar can get Troy Vincent on the phone. We
can hammer this out together. Well, he's had a lot
to seriously, LaVar, there's a comment on the combine the
other day. I'm not sure if you saw that, but
that was that's interesting. What do you what do you
say about that combine? Was? Did he compare to think
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I didn't see it? Oh, I'm gonna see it. I'll
put it this way. I tend to there are some
things to that the combat experience, like standing up there
and in front of a bunch of bleachers in your
underwear with nothing else on, and you're like what are
we doing here? Like like why am I up here?
Like I'll I'll never forget when Jon Gruden came to
work me out, like he showed he literally showed a
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picture of me from that and I and he was
like what do we got? He was like breaking down
my body when we were like we're at Notre Dame
for this and he's like, get an extra trap here,
a little extra muscle. He was like, he's like, what
are we doing? We trying to be a bodybuilder here?
You know, Jon Gruden? I was like no, I just
you know, I work out harrd. My dad was a marine.
He kind of got me letting the weights early and
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and then he kind of showed me he some other pictures.
He like, I don't want you to be like that guy.
And he showed a you know, guy who looked rather
out of shape, who may or may not been in
my draft draft class. And then he showed me and
then he showed me another guy, and ironically it was
Charlie Fry, and he's like, he's but I ended up
getting drafted and going to Cleveland where Charlie Fry was.
But he was like, I want you to look like
this guy's like see, he just looks like a guy
(27:23):
you go out and have a beer with and go
spling the football around with. I was like, alright, alright, Well,
the the whole Jon Gruden video cut up, which was
like his thing, was odd. I mean, the entire video
began with a cheetah chasing down a gazelle, and we
were watching it. I was kind of like, huh, all right,
this is a little weird, like where's this going? And
(27:44):
then he played like low lights and then he played highlights.
You know, he played like some like senior year, like
any bad play I had, he played that what happened here? Huh?
What were what were looking at here? And then he
played like software your highs. See see man, I've been
watching you for a while. I've been watching He said,
you're one of the West Coast then, weren't she? I
was like yeah, yeah, well see so like it was
(28:08):
an experience like that's that's the sort of stuff like
you never forget, like those little those little moments in time.
But the comp was interesting, the comp that was just
called the meat market. Did he say that or did
he say something different? It's something more more at the point,
a little bit more impact in history. Okay, Okay, I
know exactly where you're at, Okay to trade in block.
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I just there is elements of the whole process where
you're like, what are we doing? You know, like what
they're measuring my hand, my wingspan? Now I'm standing on
a scale in my skippies in front of a bleacher
full of full of guys. Yeah, that's a little up
there in your b v ds. That ain't even the worst.
That ain't even I mean maybe on your mental that
that might be, But that ain't even the worst part
(28:55):
of the combine. Man. The worst, the absolute worst is
when you're getting the physical over and over and over
over and over and over, and like how many times
are you gonna pull all mine? Are you gonna well?
Hold on? So let me ask you this. That's um
(29:15):
when you went were there, so ours was four teams
to a room, see, eight rooms, so that they I
don't know if it's like that for you, LaVar, Was
it like that back then? It was just I think
it was no, it was an individual to I think
it was just one room one with all these tables
and all these purposes. And yeah, basically, so by the
(29:40):
time I got there, they had eight different rooms, and
you had four teams to a room, and they all
kind of looked almost like collectively they kind of like
went through the process of it, so they didn't expedite
it a little bit, but I would never forget. I
got to the eighth room, and I was good dude,
like I was lying my ass off about any injury history.
(30:00):
I was like, yeah, man, I'm only gonna concussion that
pretty much. It clean, Bill Hill, nothing going on. And
finally finally we get to the last room. The last doctor.
I can't remember if he was even from the Chargers
or someone, but he was like pulling on my knee
and He's like, oh, this one's pretty. He's like, you
had any injuries and this. I was like, no, no,
(30:21):
what happened here? What do you think is going on there?
I was like, I don't know, man, Yeah, looks good
to me. Look at that VM. I look at like
quad muscle, and he was like, we're gonna have to
get an m R. I O that. He's like, by
the way, going on both and they said, yeah, I
did my eyes. I did that same thing. I did
(30:41):
that safe thing. What the doctors that dad my scope
for that high school? Oh okay, here as the other
messed up part. So I went to see Dr Andrews
for my PCL. Dr Andrews was the Washington Commanders not
the day back then, he was their doctor. So he's
(31:02):
yanking on my knee and I'm looking at him like,
I know, he's old. I'm like, this dude definitely is.
I'm like, does he he remembers done? Like he I
literally just saw him, like I don't know, a month
and a half before that, and then he kind of
winked at me on the way out. So I was
like all right, and he was like, a good job
of the rehab and all this stuff. I was like, okay,
but I was like, this is such a conflict of interest,
like he knows right away, like like who is he
(31:24):
working for me? Or or the team that worked like
that for me. Jim Jim Bradley did my knee when
I was in high school. He's the team doctor for
the Steelers. And I was sitting on the table and
I had maybe made it to like my fourth or
fifth tape. I don't even remember. It's too long, but
I remember I was sitting on the table and they
was asking me about my knee and I was like,
(31:46):
my knee's fine, everything's fine. And Dr Bradley and he
started talking to me about He's like, man, you've done
so well since that stop gotta die. It was such
a good clean up job. I was looking I was
looking around like, Hey, I don't know what the right smile.
(32:09):
I'm not gonna stop smiling. I don't don't really want to.
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that's all right. Listen. I would never try to jump
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hit the button and then you hit the button. You
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the way, that that uh, that stove top looked real,
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It's right, my mom, for real. It is the bit
(35:41):
it's a pain in the ass. Like my wife's family
is coming over this weekend. They're gonna do it, and
it's already a problem, Like there's already nobody wants to have.
My mom had already made her own tomales and I
brought like ten pounds of me and she's like, no, no, no,
I'm not making ten pounds. Yeah, that's because you make them.
I'm not gonna be here all day. You make them
(36:04):
once and then and then you freeze him because you
don't want to have to make him again. You just
do one time for the whole season. I think we
should sell two pros in a cup of Joe Uh
Virtos special tomor. I agree, let's do it. You gotta
come with a good name. You gotta get a Vita
mix first though. Oh yeah makes it is amazing. Yeah,
(36:26):
it's gonna figure that out. But yeah, you did send
that in the mess into business expensive. Yeah, by Vitax,
I got dump last hours melt. I really didn't realize
that that's what that meant. I mean, it's funny as
I'll tell you that, funny as hell. Yeah, those pictures
(36:52):
gotta tell the story off. It's very uncomfortable It's just
funny that you send a picture and know what the
meaning of it is supposed to be, so you imediately
look for what it is that the meaning isn't at all,
not at all? Um? Is that is that like a
status thing? I don't know. I'm not willing to be
(37:14):
a part of that status. That's too uncomfortable. But you know,
maybe some people learning that stuff. All right. So it
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ourselves a little mate good from the NFL gods, because
it looks like we're going to get a snow game
on Saturday night. We're gonna get snow game Saturday night
in Buffalo in Orchard high Marks Stadium. All Right, you
(37:56):
want to hear the updated weather, the update weather from
high Mark Stadium. I've got the report here right my
I'm using my Doppler radar, and I do have the
updated weather so the Kickoffice for eight fifteen Eastern time,
and we are looking at twenty nine degrees chance of
(38:17):
snow and wins at twelve miles an hour, which probably
plays right into the hands of the Miami Dolphins. I mean,
I would figure they would have all the advantages here,
the Miami Dolphins in this situation going up to play
the Buffalo Bills, with Miami struggling the way they are,
and uh, but to a tug of Iloa their quarterback.
(38:37):
He want to do clear everything up for everybody that
feels like this might be an issue for Miami going
into that element here was too could be snowing, could rain.
I don't know. For me at least, it's a mindset thing.
And if I'm too focused and worried about is it
to code? Can I really grab the ball? Then you know,
I would say I'm focused on the wrong things. Yeah.
(38:58):
It's in Alabama, my first year. Yeah, so it snows
in Alabama, guys, I know, and I mean people don't
know that. You know, there's some people that just think, oh,
it just gets codd out of it. It does, all right,
So let me ask you, guys, this a couple of
couple to add some context to how the dolphins are prepared.
(39:19):
I know you you really want to get into this,
but this is quarded the Cameron Wolf. By the way,
the dolphins yesterday they were practicing in the indoor facility
with the A C blasting. Guys, it felt like it
was in the fifties, low sixties to prepare for the scale.
Oh my god, they're ready to go. So just in
case I thought the dolphins are pulling out all stops
(39:43):
to somehow trained and then freezing temperatures, fridgid temperatures they are.
They're wasting all our energy and resources on this planet.
Shuts to cool down their indoor enough to be fifty
or sixty and they're ready to go. Then yeah, that's exact.
SAME's fine. That's the way outside saying all right, let
(40:06):
me ask you guys a question though, because it's growing
up in Ohio and Pennsylvania, there are different types of snow, right,
There's different types of cold. So there's different types of cold.
So Miami screwed. Yeah, but that cold. I'm telling you
that that cold. So here's the thing though, if you're
(40:28):
playing in a cold cold environment. As long as you
can warm yourself back up, it's not really as bad.
It's actually worse for the fans, to be honest, because
that like one of the biggest motivations when you play
in cold weather, whether it's your home field, because they're
going to be cold too, whether it's your home field
(40:49):
or you're going somewhere else, you want to get on
the field and then get right back off. And not
just for the simple fact of you know, if your defense,
you want to get on and off so that you
can get your offense back there back on the field.
If your offense is on, you want to get scores
so that you know you're putting it, you know, putting
the game in in a good place. So you guys
(41:11):
have you know, the opportunity to get off of the
field as well at times and and and you know what,
you get to that heated seat, you get they give
you a coat, you know, if you need a coat,
you put your helmet nowadays, like because back in the
days they didn't even really have the thing you could
put your helmet on. Now keep your helmet warm. But
you know, you get to sit on that seat and
(41:32):
it gets really hot, like it actually starts to kind
of like burn your tail where you gotta stand up
and get off of it, so it keeps your your
feet warm. They got like the heat that comes through
the floor. They have the heat that goes through the seat,
and it's actually really comfortable. So it's it's it could
be a little bit overblown now throwing the ball. I
(41:52):
would give that to you, Q, But I'm just saying
in terms of like your comfort level of how warm
you are and and how that plays a part and
affects how you play. It really isn't that bad when
you're talking about small portions of time where you're off
that heat at bench there. Yeah. I mean, look as
far as just talking about the conditions the weather, I've
(42:15):
said that's probably thousand times working with with you, Jonas.
The cold just it obviously impacts your grip, all right.
If you can't feel your hand as well, you're not
gonna be able to fill the group of the football
as well. If you can't feel the group of the
football as well, it's gonna be harder for you to
spin it right. And if you add in any win
to that, that's when you get some inaccurate passes, some
ducks and wobblers things like that, and so that that's
(42:36):
really what it comes down to for quarterbacks at least,
which is you know, probably the biggest concern for for
everyone else. I mean, it's like playing of cold weather
is playing cold weather. You know you should be fine,
you know you'll be able to stay warm and all that,
But it really comes down to how it impacts the
quarterback his grip on the football in the passing game. Uh,
and then that and that's unfortunately I think for Miami,
(42:57):
like really what they've been built off of, right is
you know, the Cheetah's how you killed you would waddle
their speed and they're not built to go up to
Buffalo and just run the ball times and go within
the game. And so look, if they could do that,
then they could prove me wrong. But I think they're
in a really tough spot. This just just plays in
the hands of the Buffalo Bills right now. They picked
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up so they picked a bad time to go on
a losing streak. This is this is not an ideal time,
a good time. I mean, deal it early in the season,
you got time to make up for it. Now they're
going to be staring eight and six square in the eyes,
by the way, Bills minus seven, Bills minus seven. Huh, listen,
I'm surprised it's more. I gotta tell you. I mean
(43:40):
like a seven point spread. I mean, I mean, listen, Mike,
you're not olt. I could go to Al I know
he's got money out of a gale. I just think
in this spot, Buffalo minus seven feels like the pick here,
and it feels like get ugly in a hurly hurry.
It feels like Tyree kill and all those guys are
gonna be neutralized, and Buffalo is going to put on
a show and get back to what the Bills have
(44:02):
looked like. Plus they want to get a little revenge
they lost to Miami earlier this season. There's questions about
whether or not the Bills are the best team in
the a f C Eastern Miami was legit, and so
now Miami is gonna be looking at a three game
losing streak and they're barely holding onto that six spot.
With New England sitting one spot behind and the Chargers
starting to find a little bit of a rhythm of
(44:23):
the day. Could Brock pretty be John Harbaugh's son. He
looks just like a young John Hart point. H have
you ever looked to look at this too? I'm telling you, man,
they look very similar. Yeah, the Bills Stadium is that
grasp by the way, it's turf. No, it is turf. Okay. Yeah.
(44:43):
And I don't know if if that's his illegitimate show,
because that's what he would have to be. I think, well,
I'm not saying that, jeez, I'm just saying like, it
does look like he could be a son I'm looking
at we're talking about hardball. He does look like a hardball.
Told you, is that crazy? Let me see that. You
(45:03):
know what it is? If you look like a head
shot of hardball smiling like they both have the same
like head shot both smiling crazy, that is kind of scary. Close. Yeah.
He also yeah, it's John Harbot. Yeah, it's definitely a coach.
Also the guy who does the voiceovers for a Football
(45:25):
Life documentaries on NFL Network. God, what the hell is
that guy's name? He's an actor. It looks a little
bit like that guy. That guy. It just has to
do with John Harbord Brockford. Yeah, I agree, So I
don't ruin the bit. Don't ruin the bit. Told you
on ere A thousand. Okay, so just keep just keeping
(45:46):
all right, I'm just keeping notes and all this stuff.
But yeah, so so Brockfort, Yeah, Josh Charles, all right,
look up Josh Charles from Baltimore. I hit you with
the right name. You got that was right? Huh. And
there you go telling you don't hear me, say Josh Charles. Yea.
So now I'm looking at Josh Charles. Listen, Josh Charles.
I think that's that's on the up and up there.
I think I think we're looking at him. And John
(46:06):
Harbaugh is very similar to brock Party. I was just
throwing it out there. I thought I would. Yeah, Josh
Charles doesn't look as much. I mean, okay, it looks
like Hardball might need to do a DNA test. Man, Like,
can we take out this previous minute from the podcast? Lee,
So just the Josh Charles stuff. I didn't mean to
throw that in there. So I just want to steer
(46:26):
away from that if we could. Problem is, the problem
is is the guy you said doesn't even look close.
That's not I know. That's where we're taking it out.
I think it's going to be gone. I'm glad you
so like that was important. Like I needed. I just
I had to and I needed to make sure I
got it in there. So so there it is. That
is your update on Brock parties doppelganger who happens to
(46:49):
be the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. Um not
not Josh Charles. Yeah, not at all, but again we're
taking all that out. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's God. So
that will conclude our coverage of the snow Game and
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
sports Radio. So, how we feeling here? How's everybody feeling
here on a Friday morning? You know, got a lot
going on, a lot happening this weekend. I feel like
(00:22):
something's missing though, Like we haven't pointed this out in
a little while. What the hell is all? That's right,
it's a football Friday. That's great yet, respect it is
(00:48):
a football Friday here on the show, wall to wall
football conversation, maybe some other stuff mixed in. What else
we talked We talked about Tamali's We talked about uh well,
we can't say that again. We got dumped the first time. Yeah,
we talked about something connected to the body part of
a moose. Yes, that is that is a point. Yeah,
(01:09):
that is they do. Uh so we taught Yeah, there's
been lit some dabbling in. Some other discussions here, the weather,
you know, uh, Joe Montana, Yeah, which Brady Quinn pointed
out as John Harbaugh, which it is very good facial
(01:30):
structure recognition there. Although I feel like John Harbor has
got a better neck, like a better neck and his
traps are better. We look at John Harbor, he's got
a thick neck, you know, he does like what like
look at him, he's got like he's got a like
a thick neck, like good traps. He's like it's like
Brady Quinn back in the day. He would just like
it was always shoulder shrugs, like he put like you
(01:51):
didn't know this, LaVar, but I would hear stories from
you know, Brady's friends who grew up with him in Dublin,
the meat Wagon and Pat. They would tell me that
Brady would have like when they would be walking to
school in the snow, he would make them put all
of their belongings in a wheel barrel with cinder blocks
that he would pick up along the way, and he
(02:11):
would do shoulder shrugs in the wheelbarrel on his way
to school in the snow. Yeah. So if you ever
wondered why Brady Quinn was so jacked, not only was
it the a s, but the shoulder shrugs in the
wheel barrel on the way to school. How accurate is
that Brady? That? I mean, he just roll with it. Whatever. Yeah,
(02:34):
that's fine. By the way. LaVar also apologized earlier in
the show for telling everybody to take the Seahawks plus three,
so a little honesty from LaVar. We appreciated that going down,
So LaVar made that happen. And it is the San
Francisco forty Niners, your NFC West Champions, which I think
some people thought the l A Rams were gonna be
back and that didn't work out. But it's the fort Like,
(03:01):
how many teams, excuse me, how many teams are going
to end up with a winning record in the NFCUS
besides San Francisco like that looked like it was a
really competitive vision. We kept hyping it up coming into
it both West divisions and I'm looking at Seattle the
rest of the way now because they're sitting at seven
and seven. They play at Kansas City next week. I
(03:24):
just that's probably an hol Yes, they host the Jets
and then Rams, so I think they can beat the right. Yeah,
they could split the eight there. The question is do
they beat the Jets to get the nine wins? That's
up in the air. I think it makes their their
season interesting because they're gonna lose one, they're probably gonna
win one, and then that's the one that kind of
(03:46):
you gotta wait and see how that's going to play out.
Do you think this season is kind of a free
role for them because I mean they're picking it. Well, no,
it's a free roll, like they're picking at the top
of the draft, like like whatever happens this year. No,
like they've way I don't remember what they're win total was,
but they've exceeded expectations I think by anybody who was
(04:07):
previewing this team. Like nobody had Seattle being second in
the division with a chance to be nine and eight
or possibly ten and seven if they win these next
three games. No, yeah, Arizona that yeah, that's that's long gone.
But no, like Seattle. Did anybody have Seattle sitting at
this point in the season, sitting at five hundred, competing
(04:28):
for a chance to be a playoff team. I don't
think anybody had that. So to me, it feels like
they've completely exceeded expectations. In fact, I think a lot
of people probably expected they were going to be in
last in this division, and so I look at Seattle
and say, hey, a little bit of a free roll.
Who knows what they do in the draft? Bring Geno
Smith back for you know, maybe another one or two
(04:49):
year deal and then just kind of rolled out there
again and see what she got. So it's not all
doom and gloom for the Seattle Seahawks. The Niners, on
the other hand, I mean, did they establish some selves
legitimate threat to the Philadelphia Eagles or there's still some doubters.
I'm still skeptical, but there's a lot of people that
are still very high on the forty Niners as being
a legit contender to go to a Super Bowl. I mean, look,
(05:11):
I think there's there's a couple of things that you're
skeptical of. Like Philly has been so good this year,
I mean so good that they just haven't had that
stumble and you're kind of almost waiting for because you know,
almost every NFL team does it um, but they haven't
had it. So you know, maybe there's some skepticism or
some like waiting for that moment for it to happen
(05:31):
because we haven't seen, you know, these guys do it before.
It's not like we've seen that Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni,
the Eagles going a deep run with this group um,
and then as far as the forty Niners go, my
only thing is like, again, brock Pretty has done great.
He's he's done exactly what you know they've asked him
to do. He's done a good job of executing the
game plans. But when you go back and you're watching everything,
(05:53):
you're going, well, George Kittle is wide open, great play design.
You know, George Kittle both touchdowns, wide open, great play aside,
that stuff isn't overly difficult, right, Like, and it's not
like they haven't been able to run the football or
played from leads with with Pretty in there, you know
he's gonna be tested at one point, maybe not in
the regular season, maybe it won't be to the playoffs,
(06:14):
but they'll come a point where he's gonna have to
put the team on his back to come back in
the game, either where they're down or a too minute
drive scenario. And that's where you're starting to find out
about him. Like, that's that That's really what whether or
not he could be the guy is going to be
based upon. Can I ask you a nerdy football question
because I'm legitimately interested in this. You've talked about that
(06:36):
before where Kyle Shanahan will get guys open, and I
remember Dave Anderson told me, former NFL receiver he played
uh in Washington when Kyle Shanahan was the coordinator there.
Remember him telling me that there would be times where
they design a play and he turned around and catch
the football and practice and there'll be nobody around him.
And he's like, how did that happen? How does Shanahan
(06:56):
do that? Like, like, why is he so much better
than rebody else seemingly in the league and drawing plays
up to where guys are wide open, like Kitto was
a couple of times last night. I he knows what
personnel to use and what formation or shift or motion
to use to get you in the exact look he wants.
He knows how those players are coached and based on
(07:18):
his film study. So for example, with wide receivers and
then with secondary players. At some point when you're playing
in zone coverages, like you could put guys who've got
like deep third in a bind. You know, you always
hear the concept of like high lowing a defender. Well,
if you know a cornerback has the deep third, you know,
at some point he's gonna have to take a guy
(07:40):
who's releasing into that zone or that portion of the field.
He's gonna have to take him deep and then so
then and then you start to look at the underneath
coverage and you're saying, Okay, what's gonna make a guy
have to run up to take the flat? And then
I can sneak a guy somewhere either running across the
field or maybe out of the backfield, or maybe he's
in line at tight end to be able to it
(08:00):
that void between not the deepest shot and not the flat,
but in between where you find that that guy wide open.
He just knows how to get you in the different
coverages and give you the right personnel groupings to find
those matchups. So he'll get you wide open and zone
coverage and then in man coverage. Like anyone else, he's
he's got your various ways of you know, being able
(08:22):
to you know, run a a mesh concept or you've
got you know, two or three wide receivers running across
one way and a guy running underneath the other way
and you create a natural screen for him. He's just
everyone's got those, But I think he does as good
of a job as anyone of knowing what you're going
to be in and knowing your rules of how you
coach your defensive guys and being able to then say
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at this, you know, ten twelve yards downfield, this is
where're gonna make your move to do this, and then
this guy is gonna take you, and this guy's gonna
drop you off, and it's gonna create a void for
this guy coming to that space. He just he knows
all of that. He's again he's kind of drawing up
cards for the defense. You know, you you learned defense
at a young age like he did. It helps you
know then offensively how to tackle all of that. That's awesome.
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He's fantastic man, and then they're they're really fun to watch.
By the way, too late for Brock Purdy to win
Rookie of the Year, does it? Probably he's he's creeping
up the boards. I mean pick it hasn't played that much,
so maybe he's got a he's got a spot for it.
So the the odds as it stands right now, as
far as Rookie of the Year ago, Garrett Wilson as
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your leader, followed by Christian Watson, You've got Kenneth Walker,
Chris olav and then Brock Purdy is there. Brock pretty
wins out and he puts up some pretty good. I
bet he ends up winning. I think I would say
Wilson should win it as now, so he's basically gonna
win Rookie of the Year on what seven games? Six
or seven games? I mean, I mean pickt Canny be
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in the conversation at this point. N No, I don't
think so. Sorry labar Oh, I'm not offended, okay, or
just you know, it hasn't gone by the Deonte Johnson,
apparently not a fan of Mr Bisky, that he would
like to see Mason Rudolph get a chance this weekend.
So there's that in Pittsburgh. So they got always he's
already moving past. Yeah, well, I guess Kenny pick it.
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If there's some question about who's going to play and
it's not pick it. Deonta Johnson said he'd like to see, uh,
Mason Rudolph get his chance. You know, that's always good
for the locker room. Of course, why not, you know,
just do you speak openly? Never there's never been problems
in pictures. Yeah, but i'd be The good thing is
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Deonta Johnson is not locked in his house, uh, you know,
avoiding cops like Antonio Brown is. So there's that there's
that going on. Um, all right, so do we have lead?
Do we have the updated numbers on business is booming?
Do we have the updated numbers on some over unders?
So we've got this is everybody, get ready, buckle up.
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This is the spin cycle. Leader lap is gonna put
us in because somebody's getting screwed out over as. We
recap this time to put your money where your mouth
is you life game. It's over under Hiley. So going
into this week, Brady Quinn was in the are we
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were tied and then LaVar was how many games back?
LaVar was quite a ways back, but he's uh, he's
closed the gap a little bit. He was three games
behind you. Jonas. Jonas, you were, well they're tied. Yeah,
we were tied. Brady and I were tired. I believe, Yes,
that is correct. See this is here we go again
like this, This is this is what we're doing here.
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It's every time, every time, all right? So what happened
last night? All right? Well last night we always ask
total points forty three? Jonas, you correctly, we're the only
one who hit the under on that one. Of course,
what a pessimist, by the way, I thought that I
thought they were going to score when they broke away
on that third and short, I thought he was going
to score, and then I realized that it it wouldn't have
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mattered anyways on the over under, So unless teased it. Yeah,
that then he got screwed. But which you like to
do from time and side, a little bit of a tease,
you know, huh. So Jonas just went to the league
go ahead. We had passing in rushing yards by Geno
Smith at two fifty eight and a half. This was close.
Jonas even called a shot at t passing thirty nine rushing.
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In fact, it came in at two thirty eight passing
eighteen rushing for a total of two fifty six. The
pros hit the unders on this one. Jonas, you went
with the over. That was INCREDI so they were off
by two yards. That is correct? Is Q is tied?
Come on, LaVar alright. Rushing and receiving yards by Christian
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McCaffrey was at one nineteen and a half. He had
a hundred and eight on the ground, thirty in the
air for a total of one thirty eight. He hit
the over again. The pros hit that one. Both took
the over took Hey by the way. He seems a
lot healthier in San Francisco for some reason. Well, maybe
there there's more to do. Maybe it's a long distance
relationship off the field, and oh maybe that I was
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thinking that there's just more to do. You know, you
get out, you're at the trolley's, you know, you go
hang out. And we just say if that, if that's
a long distance relationship, he's an idiot. I mean, come on, man,
I give him my career. What's the over and under
on how long they last? Long distance? Not long enough?
Six months being the number. Here we go over under. Oh,
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come on, yeah, they'll hit the over, they'll hit the over. Yeah,
are you better? Yes? Yes, let me look into that here,
I mean, do check. Let's see looking all right to
lee where we at on that? Just go ahead and
make sure clear my search history. So what was the
result on that? Lady again right now? Well, Christian McCaffrey
did hit the over on that. So the pros are
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up to one on you jonas uh number of quarterbacks
that take a snap for the Niners. Brady, was you
were correct that the quarterback that started the game with
end the game that was brock Lavard. That is correct?
You both had the over on under under, but you
both got that one. And then temperature I kick off.
We had at forty and a half. That was right
at that temperature. It was a hovering between forty and
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forty one. So that's a I said under. We all
said under on that one. So it really doesn't matter.
So I'm one, I'm I'm two behind Jonas. Now correct, La,
you are two behind Jonas. Q is in the lead one. Well,
Brady actually has a two point lead on Jonas because
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you have the two lead. Yes, that is correct. The
pros went three, three and two, Jonas went one and four. See,
I knew it. So I was the guy who was
saying from one behind, I'm one behind Jonas. Then you
are three behind Jonas? How much? Because you picked up
two games on me and you were five games behind.
I thought I was three games behind. Yeah. Again, that's
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where this funny math comes in. It's never when I
had said that. Right at the beginning of this segment,
I had gotten ahead of myself. I was looking at
the current score. I mean, I think Lee's cooking the
books here. I quit, like, come on, I'm not doing
it anymore. I'm sorry. You were within one one week.
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I don't care. You picked up two games. Why are
you going to walk away? Now you're making progress. I
don't understand. You're gonna be very happy later in this hour,
I'll tell you that. No, how about there was a
real tease, like I'm unbelievable, I'm resistant to it. Yeah,
check your phones. Uh so, I mean there's that there's
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something else that's cooking long distance, my ass, ah Man,
good for him, Man that Christian McCaffrey already got his
big contracts, successful family, NFL star man oh Man, things
are things are phenomenal for Christian McCaffrey. Al Right, it
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is too Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, I got problems that wait. Be sure
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Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. So
last night we had another roughing the passer penalty called
in the game on I don't know the one, the
one Chris Jones on Derek Carr was pretty bad, bad,
but Nick Bosa got pop for one and it was
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an interception that was returning. It was a staff a
pick six, and then it got nullified because there was
a roughing the passer on Nick Bosa, and so of
course everybody was pretty pissy about it afterwards, and then
Nick bo said just kinda hey, little Matthew McConaughey type
bye from Nick Bosa, and he talked about it following
the game. I landed on him, was I just kind
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of I don't know. I thought he's still had the ball.
I was kind of thinking about, well, I was going
to the ground whether you at the ball or not,
and I forgot to roll off. Um, I'm usually better
at doing that. So it was a good call, I guess.
First off, he was I mean, he was kind of
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around people like. That's the one thing I don't understand
about the rule from the NFL standpoint, is what do
you want these players to do? Like he hit him
and he was around he was like around the pocket,
Like there's other bodies and legs and people that he's
either hitting into and getting hurt. He's hitting into them,
they're getting hurt. Like, I just I don't know how
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you prevent what has always been a typical play one
of the quarterbacks in the pocket and gets sacked or
gets hit, Like you can't prevent some certain things from happening.
If the quarterback gets hurt, he gets hurt. Like I'm
I'm a quarterback and I'm saying this. I think it's
an unfair rule in the league, and I think it
obviously in that game too completely that I mean, not
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changed it to make it we're like this, you know,
sett to look like that a shot, but I mean
that game is over at that point, so I just
I hate seeing it. Honestly, I think it's awful for
the game he was. He's such a dope athlete. He
got to him again and found a way to be
going to the ground with Geno and and not putting
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his weight on top of the quarterback once they hit
the ground. The biggest, the biggest issue I have here
is is that you're putting these defensive players in a
position where they're in harm's way now, and and the
reason why they're in harm's way is because they're ultimately
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the less you have to think about, the better you
are reacting. And when you react, that's you know, you're
lessening the chance is of you getting hurt. If I'm
thinking about, Okay, how am I going to hit him?
How am I going to land? What do I do
if he lets the ball go? What do I do
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if if he still has it? Like like you're there
are so many how high am I? Am I too
low to to try to get them down? Like it's like,
am I too high to try to get them down?
It's it really is compromising these guys in those moments,
like if they're they're in the open field, if they're
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in the sack zone, wherever it may be. The way
these rules are playing out with with the contact situation
is it's really really compromising defenders. I really believe that,
and that puts them in danger and I don't know
that that's right. Um, Troy Vincent, he's the e v
P of Football Ops. Your buddy there, lav arm Uh.
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He said they're going to discuss the possibility of making
these reviewable in the off season. Yeah, believe it when
I see it, and I'll believe that it will go
longer than a year when I see that too. Because
we went down this road with roughing with a past
inter fearance after the NFC Championship game between the Rams
and Saints and it was a sham, like it was
a waste of time by the time the season was
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coming to an end. I just I don't know on
these quote unquote judgment calls, like I don't know what
the solution is other than we're at this point. And
by the way, you know, the counter to this is
going to be well, roughing the pastor calls are down
significantly from last year. But the point is in these
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big spots when everybody's talking about it, and this is
multiple times now that we can just think off the
top of our head of roughing the passer calls that
we've seen in big primetime games, it's gonna cost somebody
a playoff game like it did. And that's the that's
when I think there's gonna be some change. I'm just
skeptical where they're gonna do anything this offseason, but I
just don't see it happening. But this is the NFL.
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So congratulations, what everybody wanted and and now we get
to have more fun with the NFL and these questionable calls.
Let me ask you guys this, So this rule is
put into place to protect who quarterbacks, right because they're
the face of the franchise that they're the face of
the league. All right, what's one of the best stories
that we literally let off the show talking about brock
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Bertie There you go like like there's examples of that,
like the Jets brought in Mike White and now you
know he's been helping to uplift their offense and give
them a shot of still making the playoffs. Like you,
you go through the league and at some point you
have to realize, like it's football, man, I don't care
if it's a non contact injury or an injury that
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occurs due to contact. Guys are gonna get hurt. Quarterbacks
are gonna get hurt. And I know you're trying to
limit that as much as possible, but you can't protect
him for everything, and you and you have to at
some point to lead into some of these other stories
and some of these good stories that are out there,
and it's what makes football teams and games interesting. And
I think you know there's a need for depth there
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too at the quarterback positions. So I just I think
it's so shortsighted of the NFL to implement a rule
like this, whereas LaVar put it, like you're protecting a quarterback,
but you're actually putting defensive players now risk And on
top of that, like we have some of the best
stories right now in the NFL, or backups playing brock
Pretty playing Mike White playing you know, some of these
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things that have occurred in some cases due to injury,
in other cases just due to poor play. But either way,
you get to see new faces at that position. I
just it's tough. It's a tough pill to swallow to watch.
I think if you're a fan and you see a
pick six or a big play like that, and then
you see it wiped away for for what, Like most
people who are watching football nowadays, they don't look at
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that and think roughing the passer and and I think
the NFL really needs to take a good hard look
at the language or how the play actually occurs to
determine if it's really worth the penalty and how it's
impacting games right now, especially as we get you know,
more involved with you know, gambling and gaming, because that's
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the other thing. It's like how that ends up impacting
the game based on spreads, totals over unders and all that.
By the way, do you think it's better that it's
reviewable by somebody upstairs, or that a coach can challenge it,
like if you were if you were to fix roughing
the passer, and if this is really a point of emphasis,
like Troy Vincent said, it's going to be even even
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if the coach and can challenge and still being reviewed
by someone upstairs exactly. And by the way, the process
for the NFL is not someone upstairs. It's New York.
It goes back to the folks in New York. So
that's who you're ultimately, you know, giving the power to.
I think there's always been a thought and again I
don't mean to pick out college football is the beacon
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of hope or light of how replay should be conducted.
But you have replay officials there on site, and those
replay officials there on site are the ones actually handled
it in college football. It's an efficient process. They do
a good job in particular for the most part, you know,
ruling on targeting plays of that nature and what's within
the rule book. And the NFL can do the same thing.
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But I think you know that the NFL office wants
to have a strangle hold on everything they do and
to find consistency. Yet I think that's one of the
biggest issues is their officials lack consistency game by game
and even how you I mean maybe not the rough
in the pastor call, but a lot of the calls
that have been made they lacked the consistency that you
see in others. So I just I think you can
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clean this up a lot, but I don't know that
the NFL is willing to do that. I think it's
one of the reasons why you've seen so many people
leave the NFL office who've been on the officiating size
or the Rules of Competition committee, And you look at
the guys like you know, Deep Blandino, Mike Praira, and
I'm not speaking for them, but they leave to go
to these other jobs, and they're just like, yeah, it's
a probably a better gig than dealing with the NFL
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that just doesn't seem to want to get this thing right. Yeah,
where you're basically having to play by what the fell
rule book is and it's still pissing everybody off. Like
you imagined by the way you imagine being an official,
you know, at best fifty of the crowd likes you
at best by the time the game's over and yet
now it's being played out on national television, and wouldn't
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the officials get called forward and these people get outraged
they're the ones they get buried for it. And I
also like how people afterwards say, well, shouldn't they have to,
you know, answer questions. Shouldn't they be held accountable for
this stuff? Aren't they making calls based on the rule
book they're handed by the league? And if there's a
point of emphasis on a call that they want to
look at during a course of a season, like isn't
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that that's that's told to them? Like was it? Was
it holding? Was it a couple of years ago? Was
like holding? Or illegal hands to the face or something
like that was a point of emphasis? And then you
saw the numbers jump up and all that, Like it
feels like they're just simply doing what they're being instructed
by the league and sort of just it's kind of
a kill the messenger spot for these officials and thus
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everybody gets piste off and maybe they're all that the
wrong people. I don't know. I just I don't see
how this is going to get solved. But you know,
maybe LaVar can get Troy Vincent on the phone. We
can hammer this out together. Well, he's had a lot
to seriously, LaVar, there's a comment on the combine the
other day. I'm not sure if you saw that, but
that was that's interesting. What do you what do you
say about that combine? Was? Did he compare to think
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I didn't see it? Oh, I'm gonna see it. I'll
put it this way. I tend to there are some
things to that the combat experience, like standing up there
and in front of a bunch of bleachers in your
underwear with nothing else on, and you're like what are
we doing here? Like like why am I up here?
Like I'll I'll never forget when Jon Gruden came to
work me out, like he showed he literally showed a
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picture of me from that and I and he was
like what do we got? He was like breaking down
my body when we were like we're at Notre Dame
for this and he's like, get an extra trap here,
a little extra muscle. He was like, he's like, what
are we doing? We trying to be a bodybuilder here?
You know, Jon Gruden? I was like no, I just
you know, I work out harrd. My dad was a marine.
He kind of got me letting the weights early and
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and then he kind of showed me he some other pictures.
He like, I don't want you to be like that guy.
And he showed a you know, guy who looked rather
out of shape, who may or may not been in
my draft draft class. And then he showed me and
then he showed me another guy, and ironically it was
Charlie Fry, and he's like, he's but I ended up
getting drafted and going to Cleveland where Charlie Fry was.
But he was like, I want you to look like
this guy's like see, he just looks like a guy
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you go out and have a beer with and go
spling the football around with. I was like, alright, alright, Well,
the the whole Jon Gruden video cut up, which was
like his thing, was odd. I mean, the entire video
began with a cheetah chasing down a gazelle, and we
were watching it. I was kind of like, huh, all right,
this is a little weird, like where's this going? And
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then he played like low lights and then he played highlights.
You know, he played like some like senior year, like
any bad play I had, he played that what happened here? Huh?
What were what were looking at here? And then he
played like software your highs. See see man, I've been
watching you for a while. I've been watching He said,
you're one of the West Coast then, weren't she? I
was like yeah, yeah, well see so like it was
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an experience like that's that's the sort of stuff like
you never forget, like those little those little moments in time.
But the comp was interesting, the comp that was just
called the meat market. Did he say that or did
he say something different? It's something more more at the point,
a little bit more impact in history. Okay, Okay, I
know exactly where you're at, Okay to trade in block.
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I just there is elements of the whole process where
you're like, what are we doing? You know, like what
they're measuring my hand, my wingspan? Now I'm standing on
a scale in my skippies in front of a bleacher
full of full of guys. Yeah, that's a little up
there in your b v ds. That ain't even the worst.
That ain't even I mean maybe on your mental that
that might be, But that ain't even the worst part
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of the combine. Man. The worst, the absolute worst is
when you're getting the physical over and over and over
over and over and over, and like how many times
are you gonna pull all mine? Are you gonna well?
Hold on? So let me ask you this. That's um
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when you went were there, so ours was four teams
to a room, see, eight rooms, so that they I
don't know if it's like that for you, LaVar, Was
it like that back then? It was just I think
it was no, it was an individual to I think
it was just one room one with all these tables
and all these purposes. And yeah, basically, so by the
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time I got there, they had eight different rooms, and
you had four teams to a room, and they all
kind of looked almost like collectively they kind of like
went through the process of it, so they didn't expedite
it a little bit, but I would never forget. I
got to the eighth room, and I was good dude,
like I was lying my ass off about any injury history.
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I was like, yeah, man, I'm only gonna concussion that
pretty much. It clean, Bill Hill, nothing going on. And
finally finally we get to the last room. The last doctor.
I can't remember if he was even from the Chargers
or someone, but he was like pulling on my knee
and He's like, oh, this one's pretty. He's like, you
had any injuries and this. I was like, no, no,
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what happened here? What do you think is going on there?
I was like, I don't know, man, Yeah, looks good
to me. Look at that VM. I look at like
quad muscle, and he was like, we're gonna have to
get an m R. I O that. He's like, by
the way, going on both and they said, yeah, I
did my eyes. I did that same thing. I did
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that safe thing. What the doctors that dad my scope
for that high school? Oh okay, here as the other
messed up part. So I went to see Dr Andrews
for my PCL. Dr Andrews was the Washington Commanders not
the day back then, he was their doctor. So he's
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yanking on my knee and I'm looking at him like,
I know, he's old. I'm like, this dude definitely is.
I'm like, does he he remembers done? Like he I
literally just saw him, like I don't know, a month
and a half before that, and then he kind of
winked at me on the way out. So I was
like all right, and he was like, a good job
of the rehab and all this stuff. I was like, okay,
but I was like, this is such a conflict of interest,
like he knows right away, like like who is he
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working for me? Or or the team that worked like
that for me. Jim Jim Bradley did my knee when
I was in high school. He's the team doctor for
the Steelers. And I was sitting on the table and
I had maybe made it to like my fourth or
fifth tape. I don't even remember. It's too long, but
I remember I was sitting on the table and they
was asking me about my knee and I was like,
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my knee's fine, everything's fine. And Dr Bradley and he
started talking to me about He's like, man, you've done
so well since that stop gotta die. It was such
a good clean up job. I was looking I was
looking around like, Hey, I don't know what the right smile.
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I'm not gonna stop smiling. I don't don't really want to.
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I'll tell you that, funny as hell. Yeah, those pictures
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gotta tell the story off. It's very uncomfortable It's just
funny that you send a picture and know what the
meaning of it is supposed to be, so you imediately
look for what it is that the meaning isn't at all,
not at all? Um? Is that is that like a
status thing? I don't know. I'm not willing to be
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a part of that status. That's too uncomfortable. But you know,
maybe some people learning that stuff. All right. So it
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tire buying should be. All right, So we may have
ourselves a little mate good from the NFL gods, because
it looks like we're going to get a snow game
on Saturday night. We're gonna get snow game Saturday night
in Buffalo in Orchard high Marks Stadium. All Right, you
(37:56):
want to hear the updated weather, the update weather from
high Mark Stadium. I've got the report here right my
I'm using my Doppler radar, and I do have the
updated weather so the Kickoffice for eight fifteen Eastern time,
and we are looking at twenty nine degrees chance of
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snow and wins at twelve miles an hour, which probably
plays right into the hands of the Miami Dolphins. I mean,
I would figure they would have all the advantages here,
the Miami Dolphins in this situation going up to play
the Buffalo Bills, with Miami struggling the way they are,
and uh, but to a tug of Iloa their quarterback.
(38:37):
He want to do clear everything up for everybody that
feels like this might be an issue for Miami going
into that element here was too could be snowing, could rain.
I don't know. For me at least, it's a mindset thing.
And if I'm too focused and worried about is it
to code? Can I really grab the ball? Then you know,
I would say I'm focused on the wrong things. Yeah.
(38:58):
It's in Alabama, my first year. Yeah, so it snows
in Alabama, guys, I know, and I mean people don't
know that. You know, there's some people that just think, oh,
it just gets codd out of it. It does, all right,
So let me ask you, guys, this a couple of
couple to add some context to how the dolphins are prepared.
(39:19):
I know you you really want to get into this,
but this is quarded the Cameron Wolf. By the way,
the dolphins yesterday they were practicing in the indoor facility
with the A C blasting. Guys, it felt like it
was in the fifties, low sixties to prepare for the scale.
Oh my god, they're ready to go. So just in
case I thought the dolphins are pulling out all stops
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to somehow trained and then freezing temperatures, fridgid temperatures they are.
They're wasting all our energy and resources on this planet.
Shuts to cool down their indoor enough to be fifty
or sixty and they're ready to go. Then yeah, that's exact.
SAME's fine. That's the way outside saying all right, let
(40:06):
me ask you guys a question though, because it's growing
up in Ohio and Pennsylvania, there are different types of snow, right,
There's different types of cold. So there's different types of cold.
So Miami screwed. Yeah, but that cold. I'm telling you
that that cold. So here's the thing though, if you're
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playing in a cold cold environment. As long as you
can warm yourself back up, it's not really as bad.
It's actually worse for the fans, to be honest, because
that like one of the biggest motivations when you play
in cold weather, whether it's your home field, because they're
going to be cold too, whether it's your home field
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or you're going somewhere else, you want to get on
the field and then get right back off. And not
just for the simple fact of you know, if your defense,
you want to get on and off so that you
can get your offense back there back on the field.
If your offense is on, you want to get scores
so that you know you're putting it, you know, putting
the game in in a good place. So you guys
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have you know, the opportunity to get off of the
field as well at times and and and you know what,
you get to that heated seat, you get they give
you a coat, you know, if you need a coat,
you put your helmet nowadays, like because back in the
days they didn't even really have the thing you could
put your helmet on. Now keep your helmet warm. But
you know, you get to sit on that seat and
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it gets really hot, like it actually starts to kind
of like burn your tail where you gotta stand up
and get off of it, so it keeps your your
feet warm. They got like the heat that comes through
the floor. They have the heat that goes through the seat,
and it's actually really comfortable. So it's it's it could
be a little bit overblown now throwing the ball. I
(41:52):
would give that to you, Q, But I'm just saying
in terms of like your comfort level of how warm
you are and and how that plays a part and
affects how you play. It really isn't that bad when
you're talking about small portions of time where you're off
that heat at bench there. Yeah. I mean, look as
far as just talking about the conditions the weather, I've
(42:15):
said that's probably thousand times working with with you, Jonas.
The cold just it obviously impacts your grip, all right.
If you can't feel your hand as well, you're not
gonna be able to fill the group of the football
as well. If you can't feel the group of the
football as well, it's gonna be harder for you to
spin it right. And if you add in any win
to that, that's when you get some inaccurate passes, some
ducks and wobblers things like that, and so that that's
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really what it comes down to for quarterbacks at least,
which is you know, probably the biggest concern for for
everyone else. I mean, it's like playing of cold weather
is playing cold weather. You know you should be fine,
you know you'll be able to stay warm and all that,
But it really comes down to how it impacts the
quarterback his grip on the football in the passing game. Uh,
and then that and that's unfortunately I think for Miami,
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like really what they've been built off of, right is
you know, the Cheetah's how you killed you would waddle
their speed and they're not built to go up to
Buffalo and just run the ball times and go within
the game. And so look, if they could do that,
then they could prove me wrong. But I think they're
in a really tough spot. This just just plays in
the hands of the Buffalo Bills right now. They picked
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up so they picked a bad time to go on
a losing streak. This is this is not an ideal time,
a good time. I mean, deal it early in the season,
you got time to make up for it. Now they're
going to be staring eight and six square in the eyes,
by the way, Bills minus seven, Bills minus seven. Huh, listen,
I'm surprised it's more. I gotta tell you. I mean
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like a seven point spread. I mean, I mean, listen, Mike,
you're not olt. I could go to Al I know
he's got money out of a gale. I just think
in this spot, Buffalo minus seven feels like the pick here,
and it feels like get ugly in a hurly hurry.
It feels like Tyree kill and all those guys are
gonna be neutralized, and Buffalo is going to put on
a show and get back to what the Bills have
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looked like. Plus they want to get a little revenge
they lost to Miami earlier this season. There's questions about
whether or not the Bills are the best team in
the a f C Eastern Miami was legit, and so
now Miami is gonna be looking at a three game
losing streak and they're barely holding onto that six spot.
With New England sitting one spot behind and the Chargers
starting to find a little bit of a rhythm of
(44:23):
the day. Could Brock pretty be John Harbaugh's son. He
looks just like a young John Hart point. H have
you ever looked to look at this too? I'm telling you, man,
they look very similar. Yeah, the Bills Stadium is that
grasp by the way, it's turf. No, it is turf. Okay. Yeah.
(44:43):
And I don't know if if that's his illegitimate show,
because that's what he would have to be. I think, well,
I'm not saying that, jeez, I'm just saying like, it
does look like he could be a son I'm looking
at we're talking about hardball. He does look like a hardball.
Told you, is that crazy? Let me see that. You
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know what it is? If you look like a head
shot of hardball smiling like they both have the same
like head shot both smiling crazy, that is kind of scary. Close. Yeah.
He also yeah, it's John Harbot. Yeah, it's definitely a coach.
Also the guy who does the voiceovers for a Football
(45:25):
Life documentaries on NFL Network. God, what the hell is
that guy's name? He's an actor. It looks a little
bit like that guy. That guy. It just has to
do with John Harbord Brockford. Yeah, I agree, So I
don't ruin the bit. Don't ruin the bit. Told you
on ere A thousand. Okay, so just keep just keeping
(45:46):
all right, I'm just keeping notes and all this stuff.
But yeah, so so Brockfort, Yeah, Josh Charles, all right,
look up Josh Charles from Baltimore. I hit you with
the right name. You got that was right? Huh. And
there you go telling you don't hear me, say Josh Charles. Yea.
So now I'm looking at Josh Charles. Listen, Josh Charles.
I think that's that's on the up and up there.
I think I think we're looking at him. And John
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Harbaugh is very similar to brock Party. I was just
throwing it out there. I thought I would. Yeah, Josh
Charles doesn't look as much. I mean, okay, it looks
like Hardball might need to do a DNA test. Man, Like,
can we take out this previous minute from the podcast? Lee,
So just the Josh Charles stuff. I didn't mean to
throw that in there. So I just want to steer
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away from that if we could. Problem is, the problem
is is the guy you said doesn't even look close.
That's not I know. That's where we're taking it out.
I think it's going to be gone. I'm glad you
so like that was important. Like I needed. I just
I had to and I needed to make sure I
got it in there. So so there it is. That
is your update on Brock parties doppelganger who happens to
(46:49):
be the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. Um not
not Josh Charles. Yeah, not at all, but again we're
taking all that out. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's God. So
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