December 28, 2022 • 35 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Sean Payton knows how to build a market for himself as rumors of his return continue to heat up. Now that Nathaniel Hackett is gone, what is going into the Broncos coaching search? Plus, the weekly edition of the BQ News.
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. Did you see that Sean Payton wants
to get back into coaching? Anybody see that? Did you
guys that if you believed so? So the latest? If
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I will break this, can we get a breaking news? Yeah,
it's can we get is there a breaking news around
your berto? Can we get a breaking news? Hold on, Jonas,
Let's make this official. Let's make this hold Fox Sports.
We do have it on good authority here at Fox
Sports Radio and two Pros and a cup of Joe
that Sean Payton would like to get back into coaching again. Yeah,
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so that is the all right. I mean, we do
have some coaching fails taking place that I would lead
you to believe that it would be great to see
Sean Payton back into the league. So the like, there
was a report that was thrown out there, like think
we even talked about it at one point because there's
been so many of these from Jeff Duncan at NOLA
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dot Com that Sean Payton to the Saints was not
a dead issue, that there was still you know, a
possibility of this happening. We've obviously talked about the l
A connections. Him interested in l A. You know, people
have thrown out the Broncos stuff. There's a report that
the Broncos and Panthers he's not interested in. Even those
those jobs have opened up, but then you know they're
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Mike Floria throughout the possibility. What about you know, him
going back to New Orleans and maybe teaming up with
Sean with Tom Brady because those two tried to work
that out in Miami, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. It just doesn't stop.
Every single day there's some other rumor when it comes
to Sean Payton, And the more you look around, what's
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going to be available that actually makes sense for him
to want to walk away from the gig he's got
right now and want to go back and join a team.
New Orleans doesn't have a quarterback figured out. I'm looking around,
like Dallas, that job may may or may not open.
It looks like the Chargers job is not opening up.
I just I don't know what what to make of
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Sean Payton constantly being thrown into the news and the
reality is there's not that many great openings that are
going to be left if Dallas wants to keep Mike
McCarthy and decides to go in that direction. It's a
little odd, But yet again, it's another day in Sean
Payton's in the news and we got the rumors going.
So it's well done by him, well orchestrated. Do you
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think other coaches like the fact that he's, you know,
putting all of this out there. I mean he's he's
hitting up different sources, NFL insiders to tell him that
I'm putting together an all star cast. I mean, where
else did that come from? It has to come directly
from the mouth of Sean Payne at this point in
time of the year. If you're an organization that's trying
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to make a playoff run, you're not paying attention to
Sean Payton is all Star cast he's putting together. You're
trying to get to the playoffs and go in a
super Bowl like that's where your focus is. If you're
a team that's in need of a head coach, that
might be entertaining to you, but you already know that
if you fired your head coach or have an interim
head coach, you've already put out some fielders. So you're
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gonna find that out, regardless from talking directly with Sean
pay because you have a vacancy or you have been,
you know, in interim head coach where it's there's going
to be a vacancy. So I I looking and just
kind of wonder like if this is more Sean Payton
trying to create a market for himself, like, hey, don't
forget about me. Yes, I'm on TV, but also you know,
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I'm a guy who's a violable Kennedy wants to get
back into all this because some of the names I've
heard for his staff. If you think about this, like
Denver just became an opening, right they fired Nathaniel Hackett.
If Vick Fanji was part of that staff, are they
gonna welcome him back? Is that gonna be part of
the deal. It's a new ownership groups, So so maybe
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there's you know, not bad blood between Vic Fangio and
Greg Petter who's not the CEO, and you know that
that Walton family that that bought into it. Maybe it's
a different feel and he liked Denver and wants to
go back there, but they'd be kind of awkward, right,
I just I kind of look at some of the
jobs that are out there. The New Orleans Saints, first off,
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I mean, are they gonna fire Dennis Allen? I mean,
we tend to forget to if Sean Payton came back,
the Saints two of his rights, So wouldn't he have
to figure that out first? So wouldn't it be the
Saints first? Or they would have to, you know, give
him the ability to be released or traded or however
that work. I mean, last night checked that. I thought
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that was how things ended off. And I wonder how
Dennis slid feels about all that. Definitely still own his rights, right, Yeah,
And and Dennis Allen was on his staff for years
and then he's got to sit around while he's you
trying to coach for his job. He's got another opportunity
to be a head coach. And if he fails this
time out and the guy who he worked so closely
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with the year's passes out there throwing his name into
the hat for the job that he just walked away
from less than a year ago. Is there a time
where is there a time frame on on them owning
like is it for like another year? Another two years?
How does that work. I think it's another year, right
that they have they have control, so they have to
pay him or they just have control, Like what what
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is it? And I think the detail and I think
they have to sign off on him wanting to go
take another job. There's some sort of and if he's
signed off, they don't have to pay him what they're
paying him right now. Correct, they're probably paying because that
would be via a trade, right Brady, because I give
this would be similar to the Gruden um Yeah, Gruden
to the to the box back in the day. I
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wonder how much longer that's for because here's here's what
I'm thinking. And I think that this is pretty you know,
I think it's feasible to think he's thinking this way.
He's going to ride out the duration of his contract.
There's no reason for him to not ride out the
duration of his contract being paid out. But you create
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a market for entry to get this job in the
National Football League, wherever that may be amongst the owners,
everybody's going to chirp about it. Who can get Sean Payton?
Who can land you know, the trophy coach that that
had such great success in New Orleans is considered to
be a quarterback whisperer. Well, one thing that we've made
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very clear is is that some of the teams, the
most probably the most attractive teams to Sean Payton, probably
won't be job openings available for him. So depending on
how long that his the duration of his contract is
with New Orleans, if you're creating that market now in
terms of what could possibly be in terms of entry
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as a coach, then you're probably creating more pressure on
the media aspect of what you're doing as well. And
I don't know what he's making and I don't I
don't know what his situation is this scenario is. But
there's the idea that you know, we joked about the
dude from from ESPN, you know, putting his his name
in the hat to to be a coach, and that
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could have been like, you know, look, pay me more
so I stay and not go coach. But this could
really be a very real thing with with Sean Payton
in terms of just leveraging what he could possibly do
with what he is doing, and if they really want
him that badly to to stay in, you know, in
the spot that in the position that he's in, or
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continue to grow, what he's going to do. Media wise,
they'll try to keep him, they'll try to keep him
in media and and and sure, I'm sure they let
him go and welcome him back with open arms, but
there's no reason to just let him walk away either.
So he's creating a a want and a need demand,
so to speak, on on the media side of it
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as well. So it's like kind of like a win
win in a way for for Sean Payton right now,
because you do know that his services would be really,
really sought after for several different teams this season. Do
you think he's playing the TV angle? I think it's
I mean, you keep your value high. Well, no, I mean,
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and that's like, look, this is negotiations one on one.
In order to be valued, you have to create a market.
You have to create two people that want you. And
so the first one is is TV. If you can
make a TV network feel like I am desired, I
am wanted, you can always go back to them and
say give me a little more. I like what I'm doing.
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You know, this NFL situation isn't really what I want,
but I do it because they're gonna pay me more
and I want to coach again. Now a TV network
can say, oh, go take it. You want to go
you to coach that organization, Go take it. You know,
even you want to become the next Colt's head coach,
go go take it. And they can always just literally
lets you go because ultimately they know you're just gonna
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come back to them in the end, right, you will
eventually retire, you'll eventually be burned out, you will eventually
come back to TV, so they can play that card.
But once you get multiple teams involved, now you've hit
the ticket because you've got multiple teams that can really
bid up to request your services, pay you, give you
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the terms that you want as far as your control
and the structure of the organization, and whether or not
you're working with the general manager you like or don't like,
or have more power than all those things, you know,
roster control, like those are little things that I think
every head coach kind of you know, goes in on
and tries to try to be a part of. So
you know, that's what this is about to me, is
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him trying to go in looking at this head coaching
cycle and say I'm the top dog, I'm the guy
that everyone probably wants and I'm gonna make sure people
know I'm gonna have a great staff already in place.
So if you need a head coach, you come pay
me top dollar. Boom. I've got this whole thing set.
And he's trying to create a market for himself to
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entice other people. Make him look more attractive if you will. So,
I don't know if it's just spending time out in
l A, you know, where everyone's glamorizing themselves, making themselves
look better looking and all that. I mean, it's maybe
it's the effect you guys out in l A. I've
had on Sean. That's that's all caused, Candy Brady, Well,
I mean that's your where. It's not Bye. I'm just saying.
I mean, I had a buddy tell me. There's a
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lot of a lot of thousand dares out there, you know,
people driving cars they can't afford, but trying to look
the part before they become the part. Drive a BMW,
rent an apartment, that's a move, you know, driving sleep
in your car is get a membership. There you go,
you can shower, you get everything all on hand. By
the way, um good join Equinox. You know there is
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a there is a a oddsmaker out there, a book
if you will, that is projecting that the team can lavarn.
I guess okay, let's do I mean only if we
have game show music? Do you have any by the way,
it's been a long time. Do you have Brady Quinn
game show music? Do we have that? Like we have?
And this is has nothing to do with maybe a
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heritage that that you know, I mean again again, this
feels inappropriate. But you know, we're not that far away
from St. Patty's Day, So I figured let's just go
out there if we're gonna go with alright, right around
the corner. According to bookies dot Com, which team I'm sorry,
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you go back? I gotta give credit where credit's do no,
no go back? And what's that set again bookies dot com. Okay,
let's just say this. You've got a real problem. Alright.
Look at that guy in the eyes, all right, take
him away from a computer where he has the ability
to search. Hold on, it's really that's really what's up?
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Oh yeah, what do you think that he doesn't have
a problems? Were pressed like a most sucker to man, Yeah,
it's press, you know, I'm just I was trying to
see if anybody there is no fluff with this site. Yeah,
just trying to see if you know what, what place
had some odds up, because you know they'll get into
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this and more some of the more reputable places, like
our friends of DraftKings. I'm sure we'll have some odds
updated here as well soon. But according to bookies dot com,
there's one team that is the favorite to land Sean Payton.
All right, one team that's the favorite to land Sean Payton,
LaVar Arrington. You go first, she always goes first. Okay,
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well off speed, Um, let's say it's the See I'm
torn because I feel like the Saints situation is probably
bigger issue than anything. But I'm gonna say the Denver
Brocos because they just fired their coach and someone probably
got all excited about that and thinks Sean paid Russell Wilson,
what accommodation. I'm gonna go with Arizona and the winner
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is one of us one yet up? How about that? Yeah,
the Arizona Cardinals the head coach and plus how disrespectful
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is that they still have a head coach? Okay, this
is the part. He's still technically there even though he's
leaving for personal reason. Well, yeah, you could say technically
for all of them. I just I can't. It's not.
Technically he's still there. I can't. He's not. I'm talking
about it in Arizona. You can say they technically, someone
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argue Nathaniel Hacket hasn't been there at all at any point,
But I just deserved this near. I'm just saying, you know,
based on you know, the in game operator that was
hired a couple of weeks in and what happened the
first get the season, some would argue against Snathaniel Hackett's
presence being anywhere close to the facility, But they probably
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did at least a three year deal, right, I mean,
I know that's public domain, but it's probably at least
a three year deal that he did. Yeah. Yeah, for
one year or once, not even a whole season. He's
going to get paid for three or four seasons. Yeah,
cute gig. You brought that up a few I think
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a few weeks back or so, like why would you
like get rid of a guy? Because I think that
was the reasoning behind you know, you guys saying that
he wouldn't get fired in seasons, Like why would you
you know, why would you keep paying or why would
you might as well get your money's worth out of it.
You gotta pay him anyway, they fired him, man, and
and you just get to go like literally, they're gonna
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give you a check, Well you're gonna keep it depends
on if they severed tie you right like if they
severance pay you like there, or if they're going to
just keep paying you on on the schedule. But either way,
I mean, you're getting paid. Just said. Isn't there an
unspoken rule amongst like the coaching fraternity that hey, man,
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it's kind of you know, like he's got he's got
a job, that's his job. What are you doing throwing
your name in the hat for it? And it's sham.
Paynton is just like, oh, that's cool. And I think
that every every job out there is being throwing his
name has been throwing him all at And I think
you asked a question earlier, how does that make other
coaches feel? I would think any coach that's on the
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hot seat, I think it would make them feel uncomfortable
because you're you're looking at you don't know what you
don't know, or you worst you know what you do know.
If I've seen Sean Payton around during the off season.
Now you're you're you're Now you're running that through your mind,
like I know I used to do that with players
Like hold on, man, Like that linebacker was here last
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off season. Why is he walking back into the building
right right now? He's a sam linebacker. Wait, I'm a
sound linebacker. He's younger than me. Wait wait, he's younger
than me. Hold on, he's going to be cheaper than me. Like,
hold on, man, Like I need to talk to somebody.
Where's the g I'm like, hey, Louis, like, hey, what's
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going on here? Like yeah, but do you want to
know what's going on? Did he publicly trying campaign for
your job? And that's what makes it worse, is that's
what I'm saying. He's got Sean Payton has the swag,
he's you know, he's got it to be able to
do that. You know, he didn't leave the game as
as a disgrace. He left the game like I don't
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want moving on. A lot of people were very very
you know, that was what was in my notes to
ask you guys, why can can can we recall why
he moved on in the first place? I can't. I
just it was mutual, and uh, I think probably also
he looked around if it was. If it was mutual,
then why do they still own his rights? Then if
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it's mutual, you break up like I'm not going to
break up with you and be like, well this is
a mutual breakup. But you know I do If you
want to come back, yeah, I still got you. If
you want to jump back out there in the dating
pool like you ain't. You ain't going to bend nobody else,
bend the knee or something else, bend the knee. You
want to come back, and then oh no, that's not great.
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Maybe wobble wobble, but don't fall down, you know. But
I'm just that is a great point. Be sure to
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. We mentioned the
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Denver Broncos in search of a new head coach on
Yeah It's listen, And the Nathaniel Hackett era is over
and so they're they're moving on. They're looking for a
brand new head coach. And so yesterday you had your
your general manager, George Payton, who was talking about Russell
Wilson being fixable and Russell Wilson, you know, they still
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have faith in their quarterback. And then the brand new owner,
Greg Penner, which is which is really optimistic for everybody involved.
And then you've got the new owner slash CEO, Greg Penner,
who spoke about the situation the Denver Broncos are in
and let's hear from the brand new owner. I will
lead a thorough process with input from other owners and
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from George, who I have confidence in as our general manager.
The new head coach will report to me, which is
a more typical structure UH in the NFL. Obviously, the
relationship between the general manager and the head coach is
a critical one and uh George is going to be
intimately involved with this process of looking for a new
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head coach and we'll make sure that there's a good
fit there. So there it is congratulations of the Broncos.
You have a clear direction and your quarterback is fixable.
I mean, there's nothing to worry about here. Can can
I ask this? So George Payton, who was the general
manager that was hired before the new ownership group took place,
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and he was the one that was in charge of
hiring Nathaniel Hackett. So it's it's odd that now the
new ownership group is putting so much onus on him.
I know he's well respected at NFL circles, but at
some point should you ask yourself these questions. I mean,
he's the general manager that that hired the first time
head coach you just fired, probably more than anything else,
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so he could control that head coach. You know, we
kind of just talked about that with Sean Payton and
the opportunities he's looking at. Just so people on the
outside understand there is a power struggle. There's the head
coach the general manager, and typically you could say they're
on the same level. They both report to the owner,
they both report to the CEO. In this case for
the Denver Broncos, one's got the year, one doesn't. One
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is gonna get clipped and blame the other and one isn't.
That's tip how these structures work. And so if he's
the general manager that was brought on and hired Nathaniel Hackett,
shouldn't he be held more responsible, accountable or wasn't he
there when he was watching Nathaniel Hackett hire an offensive
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chord hitter and a defensive coordinator, both of which had
never called plays before on either side of the ball.
I mean, shouldn't he be the guy that's looked at
and said, well, wait a second, this guy that you hired, Remember,
he didn't have anyone to help him with game management,
so he had to hire Jerry Rossberg after the beginning
of the season. Like, where were you on that one?
And now Jerry Rossberg takes over his interim head coach.
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It's just it's a bit odd. I mean, probably the
most damning thing that if I was George Payton and
I had hired Nathaniel Hackett or been a big part
of the process, and I watched the guy that I
hired to be the head coach not hire Mike Munschecker
is your offensive line coach, and instead they hire first
time offensive line coach. Mike mun check is one of
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the best of not the best in the NFL. He's
coached in a ton of different offensive line schemes, so
he's adaptable to whatever coach comes in there, has a
wealth of knowledge played the game and by the way,
lives in Denver, like you wouldn't even have to twist
his arm to be your offensive line coach because he
loves the Denver area. But no, Nathaniel hack it well
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with the first time offensive line coach. I mean, at
some point, aren't you sitting there looking at going how wait?
Why why are we not holding this guy accountable too?
If he hired this guy and he was probably overseeing
the entire process. I just think this is when you
get new ownerships groups who are unfamiliar with the NFL
that you know, there's people who are very persuasive and
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being able to get that ownership or whoever is empowered
to their ear and a lot of times it's how
they hang on to their job or to hang on
to have power within an organizational structure and ends up
being a disaster for that organization for years to come.
And by the way, ask Steeler fans how the line
is performed since Muncheck left, like their rushing numbers like
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everything is completely Uh, that's true. The reality is I
don't have to ask anyone of Pittsburgh. I can ask
anyone who's ever been coached by Mike Munchick, who's coached
around Mike Munscheck. To me, it is it was shocking
that he didn't knowing the backstories that I know of
this how that all went down, it's shocked at me
that he's not on that staff. I'll just leave it
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at that. You know, it's interesting because when you're a
high profile coach, like high high profile coach, that's always
something that's a point of contention. You know, It's it's
like if I can't bring in my own guy. I mean,
you look at Andy Reid. He brought in his own guy,
like literally raised him up, trained him, todd him, kept
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him around, and elevated him to two GM. So when
you have that natural barrier of because what I'm what
you know, what I realized is if you don't have
that type of loyalty or buy in from your GM,
you're right. And in a lot of times, at least
for me, this is what I saw when I was
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in Washington, was it's a friendship battle, is what you're
basically saying, Like, it's who can be the chummiest with
with the ownership right and and and in this case
for me, it was it was it was Snyder, who
you know, you could see how Vinny Serato, you know,
handle things with with Dan. You could see it like
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this is more about them being buddies, Like, oh, they
they drive the same car, so they're gonna go driving
on on a Saturday afternoon, or they're gonna go hop
on the yacht and hang out or do other things,
you know, and and and so it doesn't even it
doesn't really even equate to the performance of the team.
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It's like, we'll find something to blame. But you're my buddy,
so you know, I'm gonna keep you around. And and
if you get into those type of situations in a
professional environment, then you're left to deal with. If it
goes right, great, But if it doesn't go right, I mean,
you're you're looking out a scenario in a situation. I mean,
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we didn't make the playoffs, and you drafted me second.
You drafted Chris Samuel's third. You brought in Dion Sanders,
you brought in Mark Carrier, you brought in Bruce Smith,
You kept Daryl green Um, you kept Marco Coleman, you
you kept Dana stubble Field, You kept a flunk of
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old as players all due respect, like love the fact
that I got an opportunity to play with them my
rookie year and be with them. But the contracts that
you paid out and the things that you did to
bring in You brought in Jeff George when you already
had Brad Johnson as a starter, Like that's that's how
deep they went with what they were doing in terms
of what the gym was doing. And they fired north
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Turn before the season was over. We were I'll never
forget it. We lost in Dallas and that was like
the final straw for Dad and they fired him. I
don't even know if he came back with us. But
the point I'm making is is that's one trick that
you will see and I I totally agree if a
team fails, If a team fails based upon what the
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product is out there on the field, you have two
decisions to make, or you have one decision to make.
If it's too then that decision is what is it
that you're gonna do coach versus GM. If it's one,
you're getting rid of both, you know, And that's kind
of to me if you're looking at it at face
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value of I paid this amount of money, or I
was a part of bringing this this person in, not
just the personnel on the field, but I brought in
the coaching staff that's doing this. Then ultimately you have
to hold accountable the person that made those decisions because
they did not do a good enough job. Now that's
just what it is. It's a production business. You know.
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What stood out to me too about the comments from
from Greg Penner is he he really did make comments
that we're pointed to Russell Wilson about his level of
play and needing to get more out of that, expecting
more out of it, especially for the money is that
he's been paid. I wonder how much of the decision
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to fire Nathaniel Hackett when they fired him, came via
Russ or came from his his team, if you will,
since that's kind of how it kind of works when
you got some of these bigger name guys. There's something
within his team that's speaking with the ownership group. We're
having those side conversations and you know, saying you might
want to get a jump start on this. You know,
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RUSS isn't really higher high on this guy or hasn't
worked out the way they had hoped. If you want
to make sure that things are a cop asthetic moving forward,
we probably need to you know, go higher again, that's
gonna be able to work with Russ and help him excel.
And Nathaniel Hackett wasn't that guy. I um. It's just
it's interesting to me that sometimes those conversations happen. It
doesn't seem like that's the case here. It seems like
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the new ownership group has really kept a omni owner.
You're the employee, you were paying you. You need to
play better than what you've done so far. And we're
going to work with the general manager who helped bring
you in via trade and I'm sure was a part
of the process of structuring this contract. We're now tied
to you again. Maybe you picked that is another thing
that you look at George Payton and go, what were
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you thinking? You know, why did this not work out?
It's either being you brought in the wrong guy who
doesn't have as much left as we all thought, or
you brought in a head coach that you know, with
this guy you thought could be a good parent. It
didn't work. Either way. Again, it falls back to George
Payton still being a part of the process where it
didn't work out. But sometimes you see that ownership group
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having that relationship with the player in this case, Like,
I don't think that's there, you know, I think they've
got themselves in our arms length distance from all so
Wilson right now where they're not factoring in him at least,
it doesn't seem outwardly much into who the next head
coach is going to be. Well, maybe he's in his office,
like and so maybe they don't have the key to
the office and he doesn't hear him knocking, So that's
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why he's going over you know, game tape and stuff
like that. I'll tell you what that's That's the first
thing that i'd want to like if I'm if I'm
the head coach, I'd walk in there. That's gone, Like
I think that's gone. I would be like, look, Peyton
Manning didn't even have this here. Go down the quarterback room.
Make that your office. You don't need all of this.
We can we can, we can go ahead and make
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sure we keep this thing where I'm the coach, you're
the player, you know, go go rent office space somewhere else,
play of office space around the facility. Well, I don't
know if it matters if he says no, it's just
the next day he walks in and they're already remodeling
his office on his stuffs moved downstairs. What if it's
in his contract that would be probably something that you
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would walk into. Sam, this this is from under Uh.
It just seems creepy after somebody's not done well right now,
like if he was winning, it's like, oh, it's just
like it just sounds creepy. Man. Be sure to catch
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on the show is brought to you by the great
State of Florida. Let's start off with a porch pirate who,
of course, of course a porch pirate would be stealing
gifts on Christmas Eve, in fact, so many that it
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ended up leading to a police report and he was
eventually caught for stealing thirty packages on Christmas Eve. What
a loser what they caught him. Although you know, what's
Christmas Eve. Should have gotten your shopping done earlier in
that Why are they sitting on your porch on Christmas Eve?
I mean actually sitting on another day. I'm actually not
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gonna blame man, I'm gonna blame all those rude people
out there that I came encounter with while shopping. Maybe
he just wanted to avoid the mass and all the
rude people. Good point, just said, you know what, my
mahos or doorsteps. So guess what I got you? I
don't know either, open it up. We'll both be surprised.
Have you seen that new kiosk? It's got a welcome
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man underneath it and he's just swiping packages. By the way, Um,
have you noticed that now the people have to mingle
back in public again, Like maybe that is part of
Like it's almost like they're out of shape, Like they
don't they don't know how to actually interact with people
in public, so they just cut you off at the mall.
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They're just rude. Like I wonder if that's part of
the issue here, because everybody was locked up in their
house afraid of COVID for so long. Now they're back
sort of mingling with the rest of society. Yeah. Yeah,
let's show a lot of people afraid to interact. Let's
move on to the next story because we've got to
be bigger scum bags. How about a couple who has
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caught using a gridge blanket to steal from Universal Studios. Yeah,
they amounted forty one stolen items. These this couple, uh,
the the woman in which was being pushed around in
a wheelchair with a gridge blanket covering up the forty
one different items that she was able to hide from
the merchandise and all the different different stores. They went
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through two bags with forty one items that totaled almost
eight hundred dollars. I mean, listen, uh, that's very smooth.
I mean now, and also the wheelchairs, you know that's
not cheap. So you know they you know a little
something and you spend yeah, and use a grine blanket
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for effort. We'll turn with that. I mean, you think
it's a grinch blanket that gave it away? Well, I
think it was probably the the the bulge end of
the blanket when people realize there's there's a there's a
lot going on into there. Let's go, she's so excited.
Let's move on to the next one. A gentleman unfortunately
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had the swat team called to his house where he
was surrounded and he he actually delayed coming out to
be arrested because based on the the the reports you
want to get high, as we continued to yell until
the swat team. So he proceeded to get high, and
eventually the swat team deployed some lethal gas probably knocked
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that out and they were able to go in and
get him. No lethal gas didn't. Yeah, what kind of
are we talking? We're talking left handed cigarettes? Are we
talking like the hard hard? Let's let's get this last
one in because I think it's what you're one. You'll
probably appreciate the most. They will be by the man
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of mistress and at bondage suit. She petitions the Florida
City for tax funded dungeon. That's right. Most city commission
meetings tend to be pretty boring. This one was not.
In fact, there is three people dressed up as dominatrix outfits.
Uh I wanted to address the city commission and said
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they were actually proposing for a dungeon to be built
for two or fifty thousand dollars so that the dobs
and subs, which I'll let you look up with those
mean could have their little parties. I mean, look, well
I could touch on that being from d C, but
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Fox Sports Radio. Did you see that Sean Payton wants
to get back into coaching? Anybody see that? Did you
guys that if you believed so? So the latest? If
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I will break this, can we get a breaking news? Yeah,
it's can we get is there a breaking news around
your berto? Can we get a breaking news? Hold on, Jonas,
Let's make this official. Let's make this hold Fox Sports.
We do have it on good authority here at Fox
Sports Radio and two Pros and a cup of Joe
that Sean Payton would like to get back into coaching again. Yeah,
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so that is the all right. I mean, we do
have some coaching fails taking place that I would lead
you to believe that it would be great to see
Sean Payton back into the league. So the like, there
was a report that was thrown out there, like think
we even talked about it at one point because there's
been so many of these from Jeff Duncan at NOLA
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dot Com that Sean Payton to the Saints was not
a dead issue, that there was still you know, a
possibility of this happening. We've obviously talked about the l
A connections. Him interested in l A. You know, people
have thrown out the Broncos stuff. There's a report that
the Broncos and Panthers he's not interested in. Even those
those jobs have opened up, but then you know they're
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Mike Floria throughout the possibility. What about you know, him
going back to New Orleans and maybe teaming up with
Sean with Tom Brady because those two tried to work
that out in Miami, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. It just doesn't stop.
Every single day there's some other rumor when it comes
to Sean Payton, And the more you look around, what's
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going to be available that actually makes sense for him
to want to walk away from the gig he's got
right now and want to go back and join a team.
New Orleans doesn't have a quarterback figured out. I'm looking around,
like Dallas, that job may may or may not open.
It looks like the Chargers job is not opening up.
I just I don't know what what to make of
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Sean Payton constantly being thrown into the news and the
reality is there's not that many great openings that are
going to be left if Dallas wants to keep Mike
McCarthy and decides to go in that direction. It's a
little odd, But yet again, it's another day in Sean
Payton's in the news and we got the rumors going.
So it's well done by him, well orchestrated. Do you
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think other coaches like the fact that he's, you know,
putting all of this out there. I mean he's he's
hitting up different sources, NFL insiders to tell him that
I'm putting together an all star cast. I mean, where
else did that come from? It has to come directly
from the mouth of Sean Payne at this point in
time of the year. If you're an organization that's trying
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to make a playoff run, you're not paying attention to
Sean Payton is all Star cast he's putting together. You're
trying to get to the playoffs and go in a
super Bowl like that's where your focus is. If you're
a team that's in need of a head coach, that
might be entertaining to you, but you already know that
if you fired your head coach or have an interim
head coach, you've already put out some fielders. So you're
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gonna find that out, regardless from talking directly with Sean
pay because you have a vacancy or you have been,
you know, in interim head coach where it's there's going
to be a vacancy. So I I looking and just
kind of wonder like if this is more Sean Payton
trying to create a market for himself, like, hey, don't
forget about me. Yes, I'm on TV, but also you know,
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I'm a guy who's a violable Kennedy wants to get
back into all this because some of the names I've
heard for his staff. If you think about this, like
Denver just became an opening, right they fired Nathaniel Hackett.
If Vick Fanji was part of that staff, are they
gonna welcome him back? Is that gonna be part of
the deal. It's a new ownership groups, So so maybe
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there's you know, not bad blood between Vic Fangio and
Greg Petter who's not the CEO, and you know that
that Walton family that that bought into it. Maybe it's
a different feel and he liked Denver and wants to
go back there, but they'd be kind of awkward, right,
I just I kind of look at some of the
jobs that are out there. The New Orleans Saints, first off,
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I mean, are they gonna fire Dennis Allen? I mean,
we tend to forget to if Sean Payton came back,
the Saints two of his rights, So wouldn't he have
to figure that out first? So wouldn't it be the
Saints first? Or they would have to, you know, give
him the ability to be released or traded or however
that work. I mean, last night checked that. I thought
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that was how things ended off. And I wonder how
Dennis slid feels about all that. Definitely still own his rights, right, Yeah,
And and Dennis Allen was on his staff for years
and then he's got to sit around while he's you
trying to coach for his job. He's got another opportunity
to be a head coach. And if he fails this
time out and the guy who he worked so closely
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with the year's passes out there throwing his name into
the hat for the job that he just walked away
from less than a year ago. Is there a time
where is there a time frame on on them owning
like is it for like another year? Another two years?
How does that work. I think it's another year, right
that they have they have control, so they have to
pay him or they just have control, Like what what
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is it? And I think the detail and I think
they have to sign off on him wanting to go
take another job. There's some sort of and if he's
signed off, they don't have to pay him what they're
paying him right now. Correct, they're probably paying because that
would be via a trade, right Brady, because I give
this would be similar to the Gruden um Yeah, Gruden
to the to the box back in the day. I
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wonder how much longer that's for because here's here's what
I'm thinking. And I think that this is pretty you know,
I think it's feasible to think he's thinking this way.
He's going to ride out the duration of his contract.
There's no reason for him to not ride out the
duration of his contract being paid out. But you create
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a market for entry to get this job in the
National Football League, wherever that may be amongst the owners,
everybody's going to chirp about it. Who can get Sean Payton?
Who can land you know, the trophy coach that that
had such great success in New Orleans is considered to
be a quarterback whisperer. Well, one thing that we've made
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very clear is is that some of the teams, the
most probably the most attractive teams to Sean Payton, probably
won't be job openings available for him. So depending on
how long that his the duration of his contract is
with New Orleans, if you're creating that market now in
terms of what could possibly be in terms of entry
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as a coach, then you're probably creating more pressure on
the media aspect of what you're doing as well. And
I don't know what he's making and I don't I
don't know what his situation is this scenario is. But
there's the idea that you know, we joked about the
dude from from ESPN, you know, putting his his name
in the hat to to be a coach, and that
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could have been like, you know, look, pay me more
so I stay and not go coach. But this could
really be a very real thing with with Sean Payton
in terms of just leveraging what he could possibly do
with what he is doing, and if they really want
him that badly to to stay in, you know, in
the spot that in the position that he's in, or
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continue to grow, what he's going to do. Media wise,
they'll try to keep him, they'll try to keep him
in media and and and sure, I'm sure they let
him go and welcome him back with open arms, but
there's no reason to just let him walk away either.
So he's creating a a want and a need demand,
so to speak, on on the media side of it
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as well. So it's like kind of like a win
win in a way for for Sean Payton right now,
because you do know that his services would be really,
really sought after for several different teams this season. Do
you think he's playing the TV angle? I think it's
I mean, you keep your value high. Well, no, I mean,
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and that's like, look, this is negotiations one on one.
In order to be valued, you have to create a market.
You have to create two people that want you. And
so the first one is is TV. If you can
make a TV network feel like I am desired, I
am wanted, you can always go back to them and
say give me a little more. I like what I'm doing.
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You know, this NFL situation isn't really what I want,
but I do it because they're gonna pay me more
and I want to coach again. Now a TV network
can say, oh, go take it. You want to go
you to coach that organization, Go take it. You know,
even you want to become the next Colt's head coach,
go go take it. And they can always just literally
lets you go because ultimately they know you're just gonna
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come back to them in the end, right, you will
eventually retire, you'll eventually be burned out, you will eventually
come back to TV, so they can play that card.
But once you get multiple teams involved, now you've hit
the ticket because you've got multiple teams that can really
bid up to request your services, pay you, give you
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the terms that you want as far as your control
and the structure of the organization, and whether or not
you're working with the general manager you like or don't like,
or have more power than all those things, you know,
roster control, like those are little things that I think
every head coach kind of you know, goes in on
and tries to try to be a part of. So
you know, that's what this is about to me, is
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him trying to go in looking at this head coaching
cycle and say I'm the top dog, I'm the guy
that everyone probably wants and I'm gonna make sure people
know I'm gonna have a great staff already in place.
So if you need a head coach, you come pay
me top dollar. Boom. I've got this whole thing set.
And he's trying to create a market for himself to
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entice other people. Make him look more attractive if you will. So,
I don't know if it's just spending time out in
l A, you know, where everyone's glamorizing themselves, making themselves
look better looking and all that. I mean, it's maybe
it's the effect you guys out in l A. I've
had on Sean. That's that's all caused, Candy Brady, Well,
I mean that's your where. It's not Bye. I'm just saying.
I mean, I had a buddy tell me. There's a
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lot of a lot of thousand dares out there, you know,
people driving cars they can't afford, but trying to look
the part before they become the part. Drive a BMW,
rent an apartment, that's a move, you know, driving sleep
in your car is get a membership. There you go,
you can shower, you get everything all on hand. By
the way, um good join Equinox. You know there is
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a there is a a oddsmaker out there, a book
if you will, that is projecting that the team can lavarn.
I guess okay, let's do I mean only if we
have game show music? Do you have any by the way,
it's been a long time. Do you have Brady Quinn
game show music? Do we have that? Like we have?
And this is has nothing to do with maybe a
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heritage that that you know, I mean again again, this
feels inappropriate. But you know, we're not that far away
from St. Patty's Day, So I figured let's just go
out there if we're gonna go with alright, right around
the corner. According to bookies dot Com, which team I'm sorry,
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you go back? I gotta give credit where credit's do no,
no go back? And what's that set again bookies dot com. Okay,
let's just say this. You've got a real problem. Alright.
Look at that guy in the eyes, all right, take
him away from a computer where he has the ability
to search. Hold on, it's really that's really what's up?
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Oh yeah, what do you think that he doesn't have
a problems? Were pressed like a most sucker to man, Yeah,
it's press, you know, I'm just I was trying to
see if anybody there is no fluff with this site. Yeah,
just trying to see if you know what, what place
had some odds up, because you know they'll get into
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this and more some of the more reputable places, like
our friends of DraftKings. I'm sure we'll have some odds
updated here as well soon. But according to bookies dot com,
there's one team that is the favorite to land Sean Payton.
All right, one team that's the favorite to land Sean Payton,
LaVar Arrington. You go first, she always goes first. Okay,
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well off speed, Um, let's say it's the See I'm
torn because I feel like the Saints situation is probably
bigger issue than anything. But I'm gonna say the Denver
Brocos because they just fired their coach and someone probably
got all excited about that and thinks Sean paid Russell Wilson,
what accommodation. I'm gonna go with Arizona and the winner
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is one of us one yet up? How about that? Yeah,
the Arizona Cardinals the head coach and plus how disrespectful
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is that they still have a head coach? Okay, this
is the part. He's still technically there even though he's
leaving for personal reason. Well, yeah, you could say technically
for all of them. I just I can't. It's not.
Technically he's still there. I can't. He's not. I'm talking
about it in Arizona. You can say they technically, someone
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argue Nathaniel Hacket hasn't been there at all at any point,
But I just deserved this near. I'm just saying, you know,
based on you know, the in game operator that was
hired a couple of weeks in and what happened the
first get the season, some would argue against Snathaniel Hackett's
presence being anywhere close to the facility, But they probably
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did at least a three year deal, right, I mean,
I know that's public domain, but it's probably at least
a three year deal that he did. Yeah. Yeah, for
one year or once, not even a whole season. He's
going to get paid for three or four seasons. Yeah,
cute gig. You brought that up a few I think
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a few weeks back or so, like why would you
like get rid of a guy? Because I think that
was the reasoning behind you know, you guys saying that
he wouldn't get fired in seasons, Like why would you
you know, why would you keep paying or why would
you might as well get your money's worth out of it.
You gotta pay him anyway, they fired him, man, and
and you just get to go like literally, they're gonna
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give you a check, Well you're gonna keep it depends
on if they severed tie you right like if they
severance pay you like there, or if they're going to
just keep paying you on on the schedule. But either way,
I mean, you're getting paid. Just said. Isn't there an
unspoken rule amongst like the coaching fraternity that hey, man,
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it's kind of you know, like he's got he's got
a job, that's his job. What are you doing throwing
your name in the hat for it? And it's sham.
Paynton is just like, oh, that's cool. And I think
that every every job out there is being throwing his
name has been throwing him all at And I think
you asked a question earlier, how does that make other
coaches feel? I would think any coach that's on the
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hot seat, I think it would make them feel uncomfortable
because you're you're looking at you don't know what you
don't know, or you worst you know what you do know.
If I've seen Sean Payton around during the off season.
Now you're you're you're Now you're running that through your mind,
like I know I used to do that with players
Like hold on, man, Like that linebacker was here last
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off season. Why is he walking back into the building
right right now? He's a sam linebacker. Wait, I'm a
sound linebacker. He's younger than me. Wait wait, he's younger
than me. Hold on, he's going to be cheaper than me. Like,
hold on, man, Like I need to talk to somebody.
Where's the g I'm like, hey, Louis, like, hey, what's
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going on here? Like yeah, but do you want to
know what's going on? Did he publicly trying campaign for
your job? And that's what makes it worse, is that's
what I'm saying. He's got Sean Payton has the swag,
he's you know, he's got it to be able to
do that. You know, he didn't leave the game as
as a disgrace. He left the game like I don't
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want moving on. A lot of people were very very
you know, that was what was in my notes to
ask you guys, why can can can we recall why
he moved on in the first place? I can't. I
just it was mutual, and uh, I think probably also
he looked around if it was. If it was mutual,
then why do they still own his rights? Then if
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it's mutual, you break up like I'm not going to
break up with you and be like, well this is
a mutual breakup. But you know I do If you
want to come back, yeah, I still got you. If
you want to jump back out there in the dating
pool like you ain't. You ain't going to bend nobody else,
bend the knee or something else, bend the knee. You
want to come back, and then oh no, that's not great.
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Maybe wobble wobble, but don't fall down, you know. But
I'm just that is a great point. Be sure to
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Denver Broncos in search of a new head coach on
Yeah It's listen, And the Nathaniel Hackett era is over
and so they're they're moving on. They're looking for a
brand new head coach. And so yesterday you had your
your general manager, George Payton, who was talking about Russell
Wilson being fixable and Russell Wilson, you know, they still
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have faith in their quarterback. And then the brand new owner,
Greg Penner, which is which is really optimistic for everybody involved.
And then you've got the new owner slash CEO, Greg Penner,
who spoke about the situation the Denver Broncos are in
and let's hear from the brand new owner. I will
lead a thorough process with input from other owners and
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from George, who I have confidence in as our general manager.
The new head coach will report to me, which is
a more typical structure UH in the NFL. Obviously, the
relationship between the general manager and the head coach is
a critical one and uh George is going to be
intimately involved with this process of looking for a new
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head coach and we'll make sure that there's a good
fit there. So there it is congratulations of the Broncos.
You have a clear direction and your quarterback is fixable.
I mean, there's nothing to worry about here. Can can
I ask this? So George Payton, who was the general
manager that was hired before the new ownership group took place,
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and he was the one that was in charge of
hiring Nathaniel Hackett. So it's it's odd that now the
new ownership group is putting so much onus on him.
I know he's well respected at NFL circles, but at
some point should you ask yourself these questions. I mean,
he's the general manager that that hired the first time
head coach you just fired, probably more than anything else,
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so he could control that head coach. You know, we
kind of just talked about that with Sean Payton and
the opportunities he's looking at. Just so people on the
outside understand there is a power struggle. There's the head
coach the general manager, and typically you could say they're
on the same level. They both report to the owner,
they both report to the CEO. In this case for
the Denver Broncos, one's got the year, one doesn't. One
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is gonna get clipped and blame the other and one isn't.
That's tip how these structures work. And so if he's
the general manager that was brought on and hired Nathaniel Hackett,
shouldn't he be held more responsible, accountable or wasn't he
there when he was watching Nathaniel Hackett hire an offensive
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chord hitter and a defensive coordinator, both of which had
never called plays before on either side of the ball.
I mean, shouldn't he be the guy that's looked at
and said, well, wait a second, this guy that you hired, Remember,
he didn't have anyone to help him with game management,
so he had to hire Jerry Rossberg after the beginning
of the season. Like, where were you on that one?
And now Jerry Rossberg takes over his interim head coach.
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It's just it's a bit odd. I mean, probably the
most damning thing that if I was George Payton and
I had hired Nathaniel Hackett or been a big part
of the process, and I watched the guy that I
hired to be the head coach not hire Mike Munschecker
is your offensive line coach, and instead they hire first
time offensive line coach. Mike mun check is one of
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the best of not the best in the NFL. He's
coached in a ton of different offensive line schemes, so
he's adaptable to whatever coach comes in there, has a
wealth of knowledge played the game and by the way,
lives in Denver, like you wouldn't even have to twist
his arm to be your offensive line coach because he
loves the Denver area. But no, Nathaniel hack it well
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with the first time offensive line coach. I mean, at
some point, aren't you sitting there looking at going how wait?
Why why are we not holding this guy accountable too?
If he hired this guy and he was probably overseeing
the entire process. I just think this is when you
get new ownerships groups who are unfamiliar with the NFL
that you know, there's people who are very persuasive and
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being able to get that ownership or whoever is empowered
to their ear and a lot of times it's how
they hang on to their job or to hang on
to have power within an organizational structure and ends up
being a disaster for that organization for years to come.
And by the way, ask Steeler fans how the line
is performed since Muncheck left, like their rushing numbers like
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everything is completely Uh, that's true. The reality is I
don't have to ask anyone of Pittsburgh. I can ask
anyone who's ever been coached by Mike Munchick, who's coached
around Mike Munscheck. To me, it is it was shocking
that he didn't knowing the backstories that I know of
this how that all went down, it's shocked at me
that he's not on that staff. I'll just leave it
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at that. You know, it's interesting because when you're a
high profile coach, like high high profile coach, that's always
something that's a point of contention. You know, It's it's
like if I can't bring in my own guy. I mean,
you look at Andy Reid. He brought in his own guy,
like literally raised him up, trained him, todd him, kept
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him around, and elevated him to two GM. So when
you have that natural barrier of because what I'm what
you know, what I realized is if you don't have
that type of loyalty or buy in from your GM,
you're right. And in a lot of times, at least
for me, this is what I saw when I was
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in Washington, was it's a friendship battle, is what you're
basically saying, Like, it's who can be the chummiest with
with the ownership right and and and in this case
for me, it was it was it was Snyder, who
you know, you could see how Vinny Serato, you know,
handle things with with Dan. You could see it like
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this is more about them being buddies, Like, oh, they
they drive the same car, so they're gonna go driving
on on a Saturday afternoon, or they're gonna go hop
on the yacht and hang out or do other things,
you know, and and and so it doesn't even it
doesn't really even equate to the performance of the team.
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It's like, we'll find something to blame. But you're my buddy,
so you know, I'm gonna keep you around. And and
if you get into those type of situations in a
professional environment, then you're left to deal with. If it
goes right, great, But if it doesn't go right, I mean,
you're you're looking out a scenario in a situation. I mean,
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we didn't make the playoffs, and you drafted me second.
You drafted Chris Samuel's third. You brought in Dion Sanders,
you brought in Mark Carrier, you brought in Bruce Smith,
You kept Daryl green Um, you kept Marco Coleman, you
you kept Dana stubble Field, You kept a flunk of
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old as players all due respect, like love the fact
that I got an opportunity to play with them my
rookie year and be with them. But the contracts that
you paid out and the things that you did to
bring in You brought in Jeff George when you already
had Brad Johnson as a starter, Like that's that's how
deep they went with what they were doing in terms
of what the gym was doing. And they fired north
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Turn before the season was over. We were I'll never
forget it. We lost in Dallas and that was like
the final straw for Dad and they fired him. I
don't even know if he came back with us. But
the point I'm making is is that's one trick that
you will see and I I totally agree if a
team fails, If a team fails based upon what the
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product is out there on the field, you have two
decisions to make, or you have one decision to make.
If it's too then that decision is what is it
that you're gonna do coach versus GM. If it's one,
you're getting rid of both, you know, And that's kind
of to me if you're looking at it at face
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value of I paid this amount of money, or I
was a part of bringing this this person in, not
just the personnel on the field, but I brought in
the coaching staff that's doing this. Then ultimately you have
to hold accountable the person that made those decisions because
they did not do a good enough job. Now that's
just what it is. It's a production business. You know.
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What stood out to me too about the comments from
from Greg Penner is he he really did make comments
that we're pointed to Russell Wilson about his level of
play and needing to get more out of that, expecting
more out of it, especially for the money is that
he's been paid. I wonder how much of the decision
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to fire Nathaniel Hackett when they fired him, came via
Russ or came from his his team, if you will,
since that's kind of how it kind of works when
you got some of these bigger name guys. There's something
within his team that's speaking with the ownership group. We're
having those side conversations and you know, saying you might
want to get a jump start on this. You know,
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RUSS isn't really higher high on this guy or hasn't
worked out the way they had hoped. If you want
to make sure that things are a cop asthetic moving forward,
we probably need to you know, go higher again, that's
gonna be able to work with Russ and help him excel.
And Nathaniel Hackett wasn't that guy. I um. It's just
it's interesting to me that sometimes those conversations happen. It
doesn't seem like that's the case here. It seems like
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the new ownership group has really kept a omni owner.
You're the employee, you were paying you. You need to
play better than what you've done so far. And we're
going to work with the general manager who helped bring
you in via trade and I'm sure was a part
of the process of structuring this contract. We're now tied
to you again. Maybe you picked that is another thing
that you look at George Payton and go, what were
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you thinking? You know, why did this not work out?
It's either being you brought in the wrong guy who
doesn't have as much left as we all thought, or
you brought in a head coach that you know, with
this guy you thought could be a good parent. It
didn't work. Either way. Again, it falls back to George
Payton still being a part of the process where it
didn't work out. But sometimes you see that ownership group
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having that relationship with the player in this case, Like,
I don't think that's there, you know, I think they've
got themselves in our arms length distance from all so
Wilson right now where they're not factoring in him at least,
it doesn't seem outwardly much into who the next head
coach is going to be. Well, maybe he's in his office,
like and so maybe they don't have the key to
the office and he doesn't hear him knocking, So that's
(28:12):
why he's going over you know, game tape and stuff
like that. I'll tell you what that's That's the first
thing that i'd want to like if I'm if I'm
the head coach, I'd walk in there. That's gone, Like
I think that's gone. I would be like, look, Peyton
Manning didn't even have this here. Go down the quarterback room.
Make that your office. You don't need all of this.
We can we can, we can go ahead and make
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sure we keep this thing where I'm the coach, you're
the player, you know, go go rent office space somewhere else,
play of office space around the facility. Well, I don't
know if it matters if he says no, it's just
the next day he walks in and they're already remodeling
his office on his stuffs moved downstairs. What if it's
in his contract that would be probably something that you
(28:57):
would walk into. Sam, this this is from under Uh.
It just seems creepy after somebody's not done well right now,
like if he was winning, it's like, oh, it's just
like it just sounds creepy. Man. Be sure to catch
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State of Florida. Let's start off with a porch pirate who,
of course, of course a porch pirate would be stealing
gifts on Christmas Eve, in fact, so many that it
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ended up leading to a police report and he was
eventually caught for stealing thirty packages on Christmas Eve. What
a loser what they caught him. Although you know, what's
Christmas Eve. Should have gotten your shopping done earlier in
that Why are they sitting on your porch on Christmas Eve?
I mean actually sitting on another day. I'm actually not
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gonna blame man, I'm gonna blame all those rude people
out there that I came encounter with while shopping. Maybe
he just wanted to avoid the mass and all the
rude people. Good point, just said, you know what, my
mahos or doorsteps. So guess what I got you? I
don't know either, open it up. We'll both be surprised.
Have you seen that new kiosk? It's got a welcome
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man underneath it and he's just swiping packages. By the way, Um,
have you noticed that now the people have to mingle
back in public again, Like maybe that is part of
Like it's almost like they're out of shape, Like they
don't they don't know how to actually interact with people
in public, so they just cut you off at the mall.
(31:52):
They're just rude. Like I wonder if that's part of
the issue here, because everybody was locked up in their
house afraid of COVID for so long. Now they're back
sort of mingling with the rest of society. Yeah. Yeah,
let's show a lot of people afraid to interact. Let's
move on to the next story because we've got to
be bigger scum bags. How about a couple who has
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caught using a gridge blanket to steal from Universal Studios. Yeah,
they amounted forty one stolen items. These this couple, uh,
the the woman in which was being pushed around in
a wheelchair with a gridge blanket covering up the forty
one different items that she was able to hide from
the merchandise and all the different different stores. They went
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through two bags with forty one items that totaled almost
eight hundred dollars. I mean, listen, uh, that's very smooth.
I mean now, and also the wheelchairs, you know that's
not cheap. So you know they you know a little
something and you spend yeah, and use a grine blanket
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for effort. We'll turn with that. I mean, you think
it's a grinch blanket that gave it away? Well, I
think it was probably the the the bulge end of
the blanket when people realize there's there's a there's a
lot going on into there. Let's go, she's so excited.
Let's move on to the next one. A gentleman unfortunately
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had the swat team called to his house where he
was surrounded and he he actually delayed coming out to
be arrested because based on the the the reports you
want to get high, as we continued to yell until
the swat team. So he proceeded to get high, and
eventually the swat team deployed some lethal gas probably knocked
(33:43):
that out and they were able to go in and
get him. No lethal gas didn't. Yeah, what kind of
are we talking? We're talking left handed cigarettes? Are we
talking like the hard hard? Let's let's get this last
one in because I think it's what you're one. You'll
probably appreciate the most. They will be by the man
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of mistress and at bondage suit. She petitions the Florida
City for tax funded dungeon. That's right. Most city commission
meetings tend to be pretty boring. This one was not.
In fact, there is three people dressed up as dominatrix outfits.
Uh I wanted to address the city commission and said
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they were actually proposing for a dungeon to be built
for two or fifty thousand dollars so that the dobs
and subs, which I'll let you look up with those
mean could have their little parties. I mean, look, well
I could touch on that being from d C, but
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