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Following their Bowl games, the draft stock has changed for both CJ Stroud and Bryce Young. The guys wonder if Tua can comeback from his concussion to play in the playoffs in the current NFL climate. Plus, chaos ensues on The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.

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that is going on with tomorrow. Hamlin of the Buffalo
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(01:25):
uh he's on fifty oxygen according to his uncle. That's
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updated on his status of anything changes here moving forward.
But um on the field of football, and we talked

(01:47):
a little bit about this yesterday, just the phenomenal playoff
games that we saw over the weekend and also just
the performances of some other players and two of the
guys that have been rumored to be going at the
time up of the draft four months. If you go
to any of the betting odds, they would all tell
you who's going to be the number one pick. It's
most likely going to be a quarterback, and two of

(02:07):
those guys obviously Bryce Young and c. J. Stroud. And
now upon seeing both of those guys play in their
bowl games, which by the way. It was funny to
see Alabama go down ten points to Kansas State and
everybody was trying to write off them, Oh, they don't
care about this game. And then Bryce Young just went
out there and just put on a put on a
performance in his final game in Alabama announced he leaving

(02:29):
to go to the NFL. So now the discussion becomes,
where does where do these guys go at the top
of the draft? Man like he bawled out, you think
he's Uh, I don't know about what his draft status is,
but I just know you see when you see special,
you know special dudes, pretty special. Man. Like watching it,

(02:51):
it's it's so funny being able to watch like where
we were watching the vantage point. You could look down
onto the field, so you can see the formations. You
can see what the offense is trying to do, you
can see what the defense is trying to do. You
can see what the Reeds are And your boy Stetson
been it, bro, he was he was cooking out there, man,

(03:12):
he was cooking. He's made himself into a legitimate draft prospect.
Not now, I'm not gonna put him up there with
the likes of Bryce Young and c J. Stroud and
Will Levis and and those guys. But he's definitely gone
for my guy. That was a good story. And now
as I think being looked at a lot more seriously,
probably in the end of the draft. I mean, look,

(03:32):
he's undersized guy at five eleven pounds, but he's improved
his game to the point where he can make all
the throws. He's scrappy, he's tough, he's a smart kid,
he's accurate with the football. Uh, he's just streaky from
time to time. You know, if you if you go
back and watch that game through, you know, you'll see
sometimes you're like, all right, why was Ohio State able

(03:54):
to come back in this? I mean there's some Georgia deficiencies,
great plays by Marvin Harrison, but you see a little
bit too of a law and some of the offense
was Stetson Bennett. But again, he'll he'll be he'll he'll
get drafted. You know, I don't know before the past
couple of years if you could have said that. And
I think any time you win a national championship, and
obviously if he wins, to you look a little better

(04:15):
than you probably actually are, um just because you're surrounded
by so much talent, so many good players, but he's
definitely molded himself into a guy that, you know, maybe
he gets looked at and take it as high as
the fourth round, fifth round, or maybe they you know,
he still kind of gets looked at as a six
seven round guy. But I don't know that you could
have said that before the past two years, he would
have even been drafted, um, given his size and the

(04:36):
skill set. But I mean, Jonas was kind of looting
at C. J. Stroud and probably what I had mentioned
to him, and I just I felt like his entire
career he never showed what he showed that game. I mean,
his suddenness, the way he moved within the pocket, his
ability to make it through tackles and navigate the pocket

(04:58):
and get outside and use his legs. That was something
that you know, you kind of always heard. He didn't
want to do it, didn't really like to do well.
In this instance, I thought he saved his best performance
at Ohio State for the last one. He played outstanding,
like absolutely outstanding, and gave his team every opportunity to
win that game. And in my eyes, I put him

(05:20):
right there behind Bryce Young, And I think it has
a little bit to do with everything I see in
Bryce Young. I think there'll be other people who now
view him as the number one quarterback in this draft class.
And in part because you don't have the size issues
that you are concerned by the durability with Bryce Young.
But I've got them as that one a one being
this draft class. Their film is phenomenal. Stroud's probably the
most accurate in the pocket of any of these guys,

(05:42):
and now with the ability that he showcase versus Georgia,
I think I wouldn't be shocked if he wasn't looked
at as the number one overall quarterback. They were coming
after him too, They were challenging him in that game,
and he kept delivering, and he showed a feel in
an understanding, in a command that to me, it was

(06:03):
it was league caliber, it was franchise league caliber. And
I was very I was. I was very impressed with
what C. J. Stroud did in the game and and
how he handled himself. I was the biggest disappointment of
it was And it's probably a question it it will
probably be a question that that the scouts asking and

(06:26):
that people want to know, why didn't you trust him?
At the end of the game because that was a
lack of trust or either you trusted your which I
just can't figure out how to justify you trusted your
kickers so much you're like, you know what, We're not
gonna try anything else from here. We're gonna run a
little little uh sweep or a little little dive. We're

(06:47):
gonna run a quick, quick, little slant and that's it.
That was it, Like you didn't give him the opportunity
to really like that would have been the total after
that run he made, to put them where they were at,
that would have been a total solidification. Maybe he didn't
trust who he was throwing too, which even that seems
a little far fetched, but I think that's probably more
so the case than not trusting C. J. Stroud in

(07:09):
that moment my opinion, you know, And I would agree
with that, I totally would, because the first thing I said,
and I said this on the show, if Marvin Harrison, Um,
Marvin Harrison Jr. Is Is still in that game, I
don't even think that it came down to that last drive,
Like that doesn't come down to that last drive. I
think they went by a touchdowners. So, but he did

(07:30):
go out and but they were able to get back
down the field and and partly in part because he
was able to run for it, but he was delivering
the ball like he was finding, he was finding the
open guys. I just felt like, man, why you guys
go so conservative with with time left? I think they
had a time out left. I believe I'm resting on

(07:53):
it now, but just the way the scenario was set up,
they could have gone aggressive. Two more plays, two more plays,
I agree. I mean that the thing was, I don't
think Ruggles had hit a fifty or more yarder all season,
and that was where they were sitting, and it was like,
I mean, a college kicker, do you really have that
much faith in a guy too in that moment, with

(08:14):
the season on the line, go and do something that
he maybe hasn't done all season. I mean, I checked
the facts on that. I thought I saw that he
was over on the on the fifty plus yard kicks.
But by the way, after Kirby Smart called the time
out to ice him, when no Ruggles took his helmet off,
he looked like a guy who was feeling it. Like
that moment, he looks stressed out. Give me a little

(08:34):
more of an example of what exactly that that looks
like to those out there who didn't see it, just
like one of those like, um, like what would be constipated? Look, yeah,
like you could probably say that like almost like, man,
I thought this is gonna be a lot easier, and
now it's not. And now I've got to just wear
this uncomfortable nous for a little bit longer. He picture,

(08:57):
I've tried to help you, all right, So imagine in
all right, So imagine thinking you were going to get
away with fooling around on your better half, and you're like,
there's no way anybody saw it. Nobody saw what was
going on. And then all of a sudden, you look
over your shoulder and you realize her best friend sitting
at the bar top behind you, and you just turn
your head the other way and you start navigating the

(09:20):
situation internally and going, how the hell am I going
to get out of this? What the hell am I
going to do to get out of this? And then
you turn around to try and play it off like
it's all smooth, like nobody saw anything, like hey, I
didn't know you were there, only to find out she
saw the whole thing, and that's what that kick represented
It wasn't close the second it left his foot. It
wasn't close. You got to take it a step further, Jonas,

(09:41):
because to be seen would be one thing. It's the
technology that's going to get you the look like if
you saw her phone going back into her purse when
you turned and realized that your wife's best friend was
there at the place you were at. Oh, yeah, that's
the face. There, there's the face. There's the face. Great

(10:03):
point and we're on the same page, you know what
I mean. Look, he looked uncomfortable. Well that would be
way more uncomfortable if you saw the technology going back
into the purse or the pocket. Yeah. Yeah, at that
point you're gonna have to deal with you guys, think
that Kirby smart time out before the fake punt. He

(10:26):
I know there was some speculation whether or not he
got it in in time, which I believe. There's a
bit of a leeway, right Like the communications from Kirby
to the official and then to the snap. There could
be a second or two that's involved there where they
give the coaches the opportunity where the official heard it
as he goes to communicate it to the other officials.
Even if the snaps taking place, they're like, hey, he

(10:46):
called it before. When that line judge was kind of
waiting and looking at the ball um, I thought, I
thought he got it in time. But the process obviously
of communicating everyone else led to a bit of maybe
hysteria or confusion as to who if he got the
time out in time, because if not, they run that
fake punt, they get a first down. And that's another
instance where you felt like maybe the games in hand

(11:08):
for Ohio State, it's like just procedurally everything felt a
little choppy. The officiating, just the time management at times,
clock management, and I would say in both games, and
we talked about yesterday, I don't think they can have
either officiating crew. Uh. They can't be from the SEC
or Big Ten. And the unfortunate part is those are
the best two conferences for officials. So like that came alone,

(11:32):
you knew you were working to get the best officiating
because of the other three Power five conferences they're all
way behind the SEC are Big Ten in my opinion, Okay,
is it because they don't trust that they're going to
be able to not be biased? Well, I think there's
natural bias though, I mean Look, I'm not gonna get
on my soapbox here, but you know, when when I
was a Notre Dame, you're an independent, and so every

(11:52):
single time we'd play a team, we'd have their opposing
officiating crew. So meanwhile, when they're over there, you know,
Glad handing talking to all the officials because they see
him every week, we're like just getting introduced to him.
So we might have a big ten crew that we
saw because we played some big ten teams like once
or twice um or maybe there's a pack you know
Pac twelve or a PAC ten team you know back

(12:15):
then that that we had been you know, had once
or twice. But for the most part, it wasn't it
wasn't really like that, like you really didn't have a
great relationship with the officials, and it didn't help that
they didn't have any bias for it. And I'm sure
like it's human nature that you want to if you're
an officiating crew and you're watching a team all year,
and you're especially one that's successful, you'd want to see

(12:37):
them to continue to be successful, right, I mean, obviously
you want to be a part of some of those
more meaningful games in the future. Uh, if you can be,
and so it kind of helps, you know, to have
that be part of the case. Let me ask you
as a question, do you think that either Bright Young
or c J. Stroud are a good enough prospect that
if you're the bear sitting at one or two you

(13:00):
think about going in that direction moving on to Justin
Fields all right? And that has nothing to do with
them as a prospect. I think Justin Fields has done enough,
is what you have right now to prove that he's
the guy. I feel like Justin Fields did more than
or just as much, maybe not as much as as
Bryce Young, but he did probably more than than Stroud.

(13:22):
Urbant Meyer said that, uh, c J. Strouds sees the
field better than Justin Fields like that he was kind
of a pastors, not as dynamic of a runner. And
that's true too, to see the field as well as
Bryce Young. So so there you go. So Bryce Young's
that never went over. I'll pick to Houston, right. I
mean that like because he's the favorite right now. I
will say this much about Bryce Young. If he was

(13:44):
six ft three two and fifteen pounds, we would be
looking at him as as a generational Hey, we haven't
seen a kid like this in the past. Trevor Lawrence,
Oh yeah, easily, I would. I would say he even
sees the field better than him. He the way he
can can shape throws and make throws from awkward body positions,

(14:07):
and just how he sees the field and with his
timing and anticipation. It is such a unique skill. Sell
I was just talking with a former g M yesterday
about it, and everyone just kind of steps away when
you watch the tape. I'm telling you his accuracy downfield,
his accuracy really everywhere, and just the way he plays
the game. It is so far beyond his his years.
It's hard to put into perspective. But anyone who sits

(14:30):
there and just sits back and watches like a cut
up of balls throws, you're woud. You are truly woud.
And I think this year too, you know, you go
back and just you see the fact that there's no
separation like you could say in the years past, like Okay,
Jameson Williams, these other guys who are getting separation there
all these big plays this year that was the case,
and he's putting balls in spots like he threw a

(14:51):
touchdown past. I believe it was to Jakorey Brooks in
the corner of the end zone this past week. That
whole player shouldn't get back and where he put the football.
It doesn't get any better than that. Like, it was
a perfect spot. And there's not many guys that can
do that, you know, nine times out of ten, he's
one of those guys that can. So I think the

(15:13):
world a kid. I think he's absolutely phenomenal. Whether or
not that will translate to the Houston Texans or the
NFL because of his size, if he's durable enough. I
don't know any out of the top five just because
of his size. Yeah, of course. And Burt, I thought
you were on the Tom Brady Well, I thought you

(15:34):
were rolling on Tom Brady Burto. I want a rookie quarterback,
and I'll take Tom Brady. I don't know that you
can have everything, Burto. I don't know if you can
have your cake and eat it too. Even though the
adult film he just showed me apparently that Knock Knock
goes Res movie that was. Yeah, I didn't see a

(15:57):
whole lot of kile of reeves, a lot of other
things go on. I just didn't see his face. Yeah,
you um and also it's got to go for something
to NFL executives or certainly dead um. It's got also

(16:24):
the fact that Bryan Shaw didn't opt out of that game,
went and played knowing, look, I could be running the risk,
but I want to go play with my guys, and
then put up a performance like that. He was fantastic, man.
So I just think it's awesome. I hated the fact
that like Bama's built themselves up to be like so
hated because people just hate the fact they've had so

(16:44):
much success. It does at nine straight seasons, they've had
eleven wins or more, whatever the numbers. And by the way,
the two losses were what by combined what four points? Tennessee, Yeah,
something crazy. I had a friend text me, They're like,
you see all a Bamma's downten nothing and case states
can this. I was just like yes, Early, I was like,
just let's just pump the brakes there for a second.
And then they just poured it on. And I thought

(17:07):
to myself, like anyone who's met or been around Bryce Young,
he's probably the most nicest, humble guy. That's it's one
of heisman that's gonna be looked at as the number
one overall pick you'll ever find. Like, literally, I don't
think you could like this kid more. Nothing gets to
his head. He's just very, very grounded with the way
he sees himself and sees the game and football. Um.

(17:29):
I could go on for on about this kid, but
he Uh, It'll be interesutly to see what teams think
of him once the draft comes around. And by the way,
it was just a couple of years ago that after
watching a spring game and Alabama spring game, doing the research,
putting in the work, that Brady Quinn went on the
air nationally and said, Bryce Young is gonna win your
Heisman and he was a tend to one underdog to

(17:51):
do so, and it paid out big. That's what I'm
talking about. It's Brady Quinn right there about it. I
feel I feel bad too, because I feel like had
he you know, had they had a more successful season,
he probably you're looking at him winning it again. Yeah, well,
I'll be real. I mean, Caleb Williams was phenomenal this year,
but I think that the award typically goes to the

(18:12):
best player on the best team, and had Bama been
in the mix for it, he probably has a case
to be made, even as good as Caleb Williams was um.
But again that's that's that's I mean, I heard that
part of the issue was the people that voted on
the heisman. They were bothered that Bryshan didn't paid his
fingernails like that. That was really the the setback there.

(18:34):
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All right, So coming up next, there's a team in
the NFL who thought they had the quarterback of the future.
As it turns out, maybe not. We'll tell you who
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(20:06):
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so we've been talking about the situation in Miami with
two A Togobyloa and the Dolphins and what the plan
is moving forward. Mike McDaniel spoke about the status of

(21:10):
to as they approach Week eighteen, the Miami Dolphins obviously
needing to win, needing a little bit of help to
try and get into the postseason. And here was the
Dolphins head coach about what the plan is with two
at quarterback this week with two of having thought about
plane status is about him getting healthy each and every day,

(21:32):
and so I can't really even factor him into any
sort of equation until we're ready to approach that. Um,
it's just really a situation of at this point in
the week Monday and Tuesday and game prep all they're
preparing for both Skyler Anteddy so so very much thought

(22:03):
abount well what I'm going to do. By the way, there,
we're never going to get Mike McDaniel on this show ever,
because I don't know, maybe you don't come on, but
you know, I'm just saying it's cool to it. So yeah,

(22:29):
I don't know either. So obviously the playoff pictures a
little bit up in the air, and we'll get into
more of that coming up later on what the plan is.
But Miami as a stands right now, they need to
win against the Jets. They need the Patriots to lose
against the Bills, So there is you know, it does
look promising for Miami to try and get into the postseason.
But now we're talking about, well, it's gonna be Teddy

(22:50):
Bridgewater or Skyler Thompson. And two is not even part
of the conversation. So his season is done even if
they make the playoffs. Two is not playing, correct, I
don't don't know about that. Yeah, I'm not going that far,
but he ain't playing this week. And you know, if
they can't get better quarterback play, Like here's the problem
for Dolphins fans twice this year. Bridgewater started been knocked

(23:13):
out like early in games and and Scott Thompson has
come in. He's won a seventh round pick out of
Kansas State, had a great preseason, it hasn't looked as
great in games. I think in part because the dude
is not being prepared right like he maybe he's getting
a few reps as a backup, but he's not getting
the same amount of Teddy Bridgewater is gonna get. I
just don't know how you can have any faith and

(23:34):
confidence in Bridgewater going in the game and staying healthy.
It just he keeps getting knocked out. So um, if
I was Mike McDaniel, I would almost give Skylert Thompson
eight percent of the reps and just be like Teddy, look,
you're a veteran, you started a lot of games this league.
We know where you're capable of. But you know, maybe
we should go in with you as the backup. And

(23:55):
if Skylert thompsony the plays poorly or gets knocked out,
then you're there waiting the way. But you know, at
this point they just need some stability at the position,
Like this team is good enough to be able to
not only make it in the playoffs, but if they
get in surprise some people, but you just you don't
know what's gonna hap in the quarterback spot. It's very

(24:16):
it's very interesting. How how close are they from being
out of the playoff if they lose their out so
when you're in, uh, they need to beat the Jets,
which I mean, who couldn't beat the Jets at this point,
and then they need the Patriots to lose at the Bills,
which you would think, and again they probably lose, but
that is, you know, everything going on. If Buffalo is playing,

(24:38):
they are going to play inspired football, like I could
see them dedicating the rest of the season obviously and
and playing their their brains out. So that's that's That's
one of those things that I don't know. But maybe
they're resting their guys and it doesn't the game doesn't matter.
Maybe that's what it is. But I'm just looking at

(24:59):
it us from the standpoint of Jets, Jets Dolphins. That
is a pretty that's significant in terms of what they're
going to have to do to get in. Now the
Jets have proven that they've fallen off. They're not as
good as as they were. But they're good enough. They're
good enough to to meet the Dolphins and ruined the

(25:21):
Dolphins season. They are good enough to do that, so
that the whole quarterback situation now becomes super interesting and
a super conversational point, because if the Dolphins were to
lose this game and not qualify for the playoffs, you're
probably looking directly at the fact that they did not

(25:41):
have what they needed at the quarterbacks position. I think
two is down for the season. And here's why, even
if they make the postseason, Miami's not putting them out
there on the field again because a they already caught
enough heat from a public relations standpoint with all the
pushback and they're handling up everything right or wrong, whatever

(26:03):
you feel about it. But also with what's going on
with Hamlin and Buffalo and just the the safety issues
and concerns that we've talked about that people are bringing up.
I can't imagine Miami, who has already gotten heat from
a lot of people, is going to send to a
back out on the field with knowing the background and
everything else that's going on with the Hamlets. Let's say

(26:24):
that in the immediate but over a couple of weeks
time I don't know that that has the same type
of you know, same type of deal to it. I
don't think people would be as outraged if if it's
one two weeks away from where we are right now,
especially because we haven't seen him. And look, it's the NFL.

(26:44):
This is the NFL. Like if if a player feels
like he can go and the team feels like it
gives them a better chance of winning, we can sugarcoat
all we want, but it's playoff time and that's what
that's what it comes down to. So I just I
could see a scenario where he does play, if they
were to make the playoffs, and a couple of weeks
from now he gets cleared and he can get cleared.

(27:05):
But um, there's obviously, look there's a lot of medical
risks and things that play. I don't you know, I
don't think they care about the public stuff you're talking
about Jonas because they knew they did right the first time.
You know, the independent neurologist might not have done his job,
but they felt like their process of how they handled
the first time was right. And then with this most
recent time, I mean it's Mike McDaniels, who you know,

(27:28):
ended up helping determined that he had one, you know
that the next day and meetings and all that. So
I don't feel like they feel like they're putting him
necessary in harm's way if everyone's giving him medical clearance
and he and if he wants to play. And also,
Mike me daniel just strike me. And when you pointed
that out to us last week that he was the
guy who spotted it in a meeting because the answers

(27:49):
too wasn't giving him when they were going over why
he was making certain plays just didn't add up. And
that's when he said, hey, go see a doctor, because
you don't see him right Like Mike mc daniel does
seem like this is first and foremost. His concern is
for to and his health and all that. And so
you know, we just we wait and see. You know,
who's going to be the quarterback there in Miami. Obviously

(28:11):
Teddy Bridgewater being banged up, you know, the Mike White
situation with the Jets right now in many places, the
Miami Dolphins are a one point favorite at home in
many places. So there's that if anybody's interesting, Yeah, so
there's there's there's a lot of that stuff out there. Listen.
I don't care who it is. Miami is not losing
this game. They could put in Skyler Thompson, Skyler Diggins,

(28:32):
Teddy Bridgewater. I don't care who it is. It doesn't matter.
I don't know, man, Mike White played pretty bad last
week versus Seattle on Seattle struggle defensively. Yeah, it's over
the Jets. The Jets are done. Miami's winning that game
coming up this weekend. I don't know, man, they might
get up for this one. Do you think so it's
it's the last game of the season and plays spoiler

(28:54):
for someone else? I mean some of these I mean,
these guys are playing for the jobs. People always act like,
you know, like the other team that has nothing to
play for, isn't playing for the name on their back,
isn't playing for survival. I mean you get like, for example,
this past weekend Arizona Atlanta. There's no playoff implications there,
but you a Desmond Ritter, who's a rookie quarterback trying

(29:16):
to approve to his organization that he can be the
quarterback of the future. You have other guys on rosters
who are just trying to prove that they can still
play this league. You know, David Blood found out on
Friday last week, you know, after Cole McCoy dealt with
some concussion symptoms. He's like, hey man, I've been starting
over a thousand days, Like I just want to prove
to people in the NFL I can do this, like

(29:38):
give me a shot. And he went out there and
played really well. So I just I look in and say,
people get they get caught up in that whole playoffs
in there. It's like, dude, even teams that haven't had
tough years and guys who are in experienced, they're going
out there with a gigantic chip on their shoulder and
trying to go win a football game and improve to
that team they're on and maybe every thirty one other

(29:58):
teams out there that they can play in the league.
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right now it's time for this. There are some good
things that happened, and there's some bad and then there's
some downright ugly things. It's time for good bad and
all right, listen. We had some we had some issues

(32:12):
with this with the fact that Lee didn't tell who
had what. I kept looking through the red bown of
like what, I don't know who. I will say this.
I did also hear from that fan I mentioned yesterday, Karen.
She admitted she goes yeah, you always do get the
batter the uggly. She goes, tell that Lee to give

(32:34):
you some good I was like, all right, yeah that Lee. Huh, allright,
wait for you? How how fitting the name? No, it
was funny. I actually asked her about that. This is
I guess a preview of of b Q News, but
there was an article that stated, apparently there's a bunch

(32:56):
of Karen's are legally changing their first name because of
the affiliation with the actual Karen that you know, and
they just don't want have to deal with the jokes.
They don't have to deal with people having a negative
perception of them. Every time they do something, say something,
they're gonna be like, yep, I cut your names. Listen.
I had, I had to deal with the Jonas brothers.

(33:17):
Grow a pair of balls, And what do you deal
with that? You were born before the Jonas brothers. I know,
but people still do you mean like the Jonas brothers, Like, yeah,
I was, I was. Karen's were born before the Karen
statement became Jarens statement. Though they'll be so sensitive about it,
things happen. I think y'all should both change your names.
All Jonas is all Karen's all change your names. That's
what I think. Steward, Yeah, messed up. I'm just joking.

(33:42):
It wasn't that many Jonas. It was a bit. Jonas
is the only Jonas I know. You are the only
Jonas I know. That's the last I tell you tell
me about it. But I've had to explain it ever
since those guys came out. I don't think so. Yeah,
I think that's in your head since since they came
out with music. That's that self absorbed, that's that self absorbed.

(34:04):
That's that's the alter. Yet, you like your names so
much you put it as part of your show. You
can't act like you don't like, Oh, you mean the
Jonas Knock Show. Yeah, Saturday mornings, two p m. Eastern times.
By the way, I've heard call it j k S
anymore because the trademarked it. I don't know. After what
happened this past weekend, I feel like the Jonas Knock
Show is on the rise, four hour edition. In fact,

(34:26):
some would say it might have even uh why was
it four hours? Because the guys that would do in
the show before me didn't do the show that week.
Because that what happened? What happened? What happened. Why were
you up on Gable? Why wasn't I wasn't up on
game putting people up on games. And sometimes if your
starter struggling, you had to go to the bullpen, so
they called it. They wanted to be being struggling. It

(34:52):
sounds like the Exact had to close it out, had
to close the year out, right. I mean, let's say
like I could put new for the Hall of Fame
struggling it was an honored game. Did you stop? I
can see my belly coming through my coat. No. No,
you can't make that stand without sharing a photo with us.
So we can be the ones to determine that you've

(35:15):
got a skewed perception of yourself. Sir, you are a
foul individual. I can thus who are you talking to
by what you just said? Yeah, did you tell LaVar
that Berto that's ruined? That's extremely you know what, at

(35:38):
least it's you can't figure out who should do what.
I'm gonna take the ugly and I'm not gonna tell
people what Burto just said. That was ugly, dude, that
was that was so ugly. You're being ugly right now.
I don't know. I don't I don't care. That's not nice.
That's by the way, LaVar, problem food. That's how you's

(36:03):
I wish I could tell, time said, but unfortunately it's
so good, not safe for work, it's just all right.
So since Brady took me ugly, I get said goodly. Oh,
I had a whole bit for it. Yes you get, yes,
go for it. Let me tell you what's good. LaVar
brought in food for Bertoh. All right? You know that
just shows you the kind individuals. And this is after

(36:29):
a guy who traveled coast to coast, was at one
bowl game and then went to another across the country
to see we are take care of business against Utah
and a certified road game for Penn State because there
was so many Utah fans there, and then brings it
upon himself to say, you know what, all provide the

(36:49):
caloric intake here for the day for Berno to get
things started. Let me bring in some food. And with
all the wear and tear and the insults, still sitting
here doing the damn show, that's my good Errington. And
there you go. Alright, we're moving right along from the
good to the bad, LaVar. Even though you were highlighted
in the good what is bad to well, I mean,
you gotta look at the fact that not only was

(37:12):
the injury to Todmar Hamlin bad, that was bad. But
what makes it worse and the whole it was bad
thing is you know that we've talked about the nonprofit
deal that's been going on, you know, for him, and
how much money has been raised over four but I
think they're over five millions, right, Yeah, they're approaching six

(37:32):
million with what's going on. And you know what there
are now fake fake go fund me accounts popping up
with with Damar Hamlin as as that. That's bad. That's
whoever you guys are out there like you gotta understand
you are as bad as bad gets there you go,

(37:53):
that's bad. So there you go. That's my sad. Fake
fundraisers off of that. Man, wo it's yeah, here we go.
I know what we'll do ugly another time, I guess
because we ran out of time. We got ugly. We
got oh, we did get it, okay, all right. Fox
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