April 7, 2023 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas, Brady and LaVar commend golfers who are honest about lining their pockets at LIV, and call out anyone who says Brooks Koepka is “built like a linebacker.” Tyreek Hill puts a timetable on his playing career and Cam Newton gives a list of teams where he’s willing to play as a backup but the guys debate whether or not that’s a good idea.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two Pros and a Cup of
Joe with Lamar Area, Rady Quinn, and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, I was going to
mention this to you guys. I don't want to catch
you off guard. I don't want anybody to be surprised
by this or alarmed. But it's a football Friday. Yeah,
(00:23):
come on Friday, Yeah, Tiger Woods, it is. It is
a football Friday. Area, as he is on Fox Sports
Radio here on two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
It's a football Friday. And so of course on a
(00:45):
football Friday, it makes all the sense in the world
to start with the Masters. I mean, why wouldn't we
start with the Masters? The star hop on this piano stool,
you're start banging away because we've got the Masters, the azaleas,
(01:06):
all the other fun stuff. The fake bird noises, and
we start with a our heartwarming tale at the Masters,
a man like Harold Varner. Harold Varner, who is certainly
sitting at even par teeing off later this hour, tied
for thirty seventh that AUGUSTA National and you're probably thinking
(01:28):
of yourselves, why are we starting with the guy who's
tied for thirty seventh of his name is in Tiger Woods. Well,
it's because Harold Varner had the quote of all quotes
in an interview with the Washington Post. Harold Varner, who
was one of the eighteen golfers playing at the Masters
who defected to go to the Live Tour for a
(01:48):
reported fifteen million dollars signing bonus. Now, the exact number
of the contract we don't know, but we do know
the signing bonus, and it was fifteen million dollars When
he made the decision in August, Harold Varner said, quote,
the truth is, my life is changing. The opportunity to
join live Golf is simply too good of a financial
breakthrough for me to pass by. I know what it
(02:11):
means to grow up without much. This money is going
to ensure that my kid and future of Varners will
have a solid base to start on. Your opinion of
me may change because of this announcement. No, lie, that'll
be a tough thing to deal with. But I haven't changed.
I'm still me, I promise you that. Now. He did
(02:31):
speak with the Washington Post, and he's talked with the
Washington Post about some of the comments made by live
golfers who said they left to go to the live
tour to grow the game, and the very heartwarming Harold
Varner said the following quote, They're full of bleep. They're
growing their pockets. I tell them all the time, all
of them. You didn't come here to effing grow the
(02:53):
fffing game. End quote. So a little bit of brutal
honesty from Harold Varner and his fifteen million dollars he
took from the lift are about it? Well, honestly is
what it is. I mean, that's the reality of it.
You know, he's not afraid to say it. Other people
obviously afraid to say it. Um. The hard thing about
the decision a lot of these people made is, you know,
(03:16):
there's a there's a moral or ethical consideration because of
where the money's coming from. Right, it's the Saudi backed
Live Golf Tour, and it's it's backed by the Saudi
uh govern Sovereign Fund, which a lot of people will
tie that back to nine to eleven and where some
of the funds came from for you know that the
(03:36):
terrorist attacks that occurred, and there's a lot of people
who've you know, are very frustrated and saddened and angered
by the decision for these players to do it because
of that um and and so if you if you
stripped that away, and then you just look at it
purely from a financial sense. For these individuals, you know,
it's it's a good deal for them. They get guaranteed
(03:59):
money in a sport that doesn't offer that, at least
not until a lot of these guys moved on to
the Live Golf Tour, and that came about before you
now start to see the PGA Tour start to take
care of guys and at least give them a minimum
amount or like a salary they'll get, you know, throughout
the year. It's the only sport you could think of
where you could show up for work every single weekend
(04:21):
and not make anything if you do. If you're on
the PGA Tour and you don't make a cut outside
of your sponsorships, which is largely probably paying for you
and your caddies travel, that's it. You know, you're not
making very much money if anything, and it could be
a really really rough deal for you. So for some
of these players that you went over to take the money,
(04:43):
if you're talking about from a purely financial standpoint, you
can see why they do it, and at least he's
being honest about it. It's refreshing. You know, I don't
expect any feedback from me. I'll tell you that q
Q and you yeah, yeah, I got this one. So now,
obviously the live golfers and some of the guys on
(05:05):
the PGA Tour have taken shots at them leaving and
going there, and it's been very controversial for everybody involved.
Varner did though, he spoke with The Washington Post about
just sort of how the PGA Tour is upset that
live golf maybe cutting into their bottom line, and he
said the following, They're just mad that you're effing with
(05:25):
their money. I think some people are jealous, and that's
just the way it is. The tour has made it
where they say it's not about the money. I don't
care what anyone says. It's about the damn money. And
also I think some of the golfers on the PGA
Tour have probably changed their tune a little bit. Was
it Rory McElroy who who's softened up a little bit,
because I think they've all acknowledged, you know, the fact
(05:47):
that there was competition kind of made us change the
way we do things, and didn't they add in a
little bit like the winnings and some of the money
that was available at the PGA Tour actually grew because
of Live Golf. So it's not like Live Golf just
went in, took a bunch and said screw you. Guys
in the PGA store and PGA Tour just stood their
ground and said no, no, no, we're gonna do it
(06:09):
our way and we're gonna keep tradition. They did it
just and I think part of that was the pressure
they felt from the Live Tour as well too, So
there's that. That's always the fun stuff here. So no
comments of bar Arrington on the tour. You know, I'll
just say I am a patriot and I do love America.
I love everything about us, say even the ugly, because
(06:31):
you know, you can't have the good without having the bad.
And you know, as it applies to golf, you know,
those those who took umbradge with with the Live Tour
and people who signed with it. I mean, it's it's
understandable why people will be offended by it because of
things that it's connected to. So just kind of what
(06:51):
I would go with that's but in terms of having
an opinion about the sport itself, you know, I just
say I like the courses. I like the clubhouses. I
like the drinks and the food and the golf carting
around and the banter between friends, and that's about it. Yeah.
I mean, it's as far as I go with it.
Your point was well taken, as you know, when it
(07:13):
came to live Golf, and just sort of the background
and the controversy there and um like Brooks kept Go
for example, he's part of the Live Tour, and I
believe that is Oh yeah, that's the Lavars guy. Brooks
kept guy from a hat leading just keep that man,
okay from a hat? All right, that's my guy. That's
my pick. That was drawn randomly when when he was
(07:34):
as as good as anyone in his prime. Now he
had a knee injury as well too, so he's kind
of coming back from that. Does like a linebacker. I
was just gonna say, it doesn't quite look like the
linebacker that everyone build him out to be right. I
thought I would take a fence like I would have
taken at all. No, not even close. I mean, it's
(07:58):
disrespectful to all line it really is. I agree, I
just I wish there was a contingent of linebackers. You
took it up with a PGA back when they were
saying that about him. What is Brooks kept away? If
you had to guess if we're talking linebackers here all
r because I might, I might have a case. I
don't care what he waits. It doesn't look like a linebacker.
You could wait two hundred and forty pounds and be
(08:20):
a golfer. That doesn't mean you're gonna look like a linebacker.
Ye two oh five. Damn I was gonna say I
thought he was one eighty five and I waited in
yesterday at one ninety two, So I was like, damn,
that could have been. So maybe I could claim that
I'm a linebacker two, but I still can't. That's unfortunate.
So sorry, Leabar, I can't join the family. It's going
to be part of the linebacker family still stick City,
(08:41):
but it's not happening. So Brooks kept six feet two
h five. You know you'll get mad if I call
you out on what you just did, but I'm not.
I'm not gonna do it. But you know it was
just so passive aggressive. It was passive aggressive. It was
almost big enough to be a linebacker. No, you're not.
I'm just saying, if Brooks, why can't I even if
(09:01):
you were bigger, you're not. Like, didn't you just hear
what Ja's messed it? You could be into two hundred
pound range and still not look like an lb. That's right.
Who's the smallest linebacker you ever played with? Maybe Dexter Cokeley?
He's pretty small. What was his though? Let's see what
Dexter Cokely? And that's kind of my greater point is
(09:22):
let's say Dexter was two twenty. These dudes are jacked
like to the gills, like there's no comparison. There is
no comparison. Dexter Cokele was five ten two thirty six.
I mean that's like a little one. Yeah, that is
like that's like a Dura cell. Which one's the D battery,
the D battery battery? Right? Like they were just a battery.
(09:46):
There's no neck all right. They got this head that
sits on top of it like the or was that
the positive portion of the battery? Right? The positive that's
like their head just straight, broad shoulders. Why look up?
Joe Mays I got to play with Joe Mason Denver.
(10:08):
He hits someone so hard on an on side kick,
and I can promise you two and he's got a
neck like a tree truck. Joe was so yoked up.
I'm sure he still is to this day because Joe
had that mental He's just he worked hard, man, He
lifted hard. He hit this dude so hard to an
onside kick, because like that's what people don't understand. But
(10:30):
on side kicks, okay, there is one dude on the
receiving team who's designated to catch it, and then there's
one dude on the kicking team that's designated to knock
that dude out, and everyone else who's lined up across
from each other, they're just there to see if they
can't knock the other dude out. Like it is as
old school football as it gets, which is probably the
(10:51):
reason why they're trying to get rid of the play.
But Joe hit this guy across from him. He wasn't
the dude, you know, trying to hit the guy receiving.
He was on the front lines. He was just trying
to take someone out. He hit him so damn hard.
I remember why I would you know, quarterbacks stay in
special teams meetings for like field goal pat and so
we'd always kind of be in there to watch some
(11:12):
of the stuff, even though we'd be like taking notes
talking about something else. He hit. He hit someone so
hard we were playing in Kansas City. It literally knocked
the player. He swayed from one end of the screen,
like watching from the All twenty twos, from one end
of the screen out of the frame and then swayed
back the other way across the stream and just dropped
Like I'd never seen someone get hit that hard and
(11:33):
like keep their feet for that long and then swayed
that far before being dropped. It would have been like
a boxer taken like a hook to the head and
then walking around the ring stumbling and then finally dropping.
It was but that that's a linebacker apparently. So I
brought up London Fletcher. I remember my I want to say,
(11:54):
my rookie year we played and it was still the
greatest show on turf um and he was in the wedge,
so it's kind of it was a special teams deal
and I was on kickoff and in college I made
my my reputation off of blowing people up on kickoff,
like blowing up wedges and stuff like that. So I
(12:14):
was going towards the wedge. I was the five, I
was on the hash marks. I'm going down the hash
and I see London Fletcher. I'm lace London Fletcher. I
am about to destroy him, like I am going to
I am going to assassinate smooth criminal style London Fletcher.
I'm about to get him. I'm I'm dialed in. He
(12:35):
sees me, I see him, we are about to do it.
I get to him and hit him with all my might. Boom,
and I'm gonna hold on. Wait, wait, wait a second,
Why am I? Why am I going down? Like I
couldn't feel my legs. I couldn't like everything went numb,
and he was standing there. He was still like he
(12:57):
was and then ran off. I don't know, I don't
know what happened, but but he didn't go down. I
didn't blow him up, and I fell down. And that
was when I realized, Like there were a few things
that helped you to realize that you're not dealing with
college guys anymore, and you're not playing at the college,
(13:17):
like when people say that you have transitioned and it's
different and you have to adjust and adapt. There there
were a few moments and that was one of them,
and and it was it was a very humbling experience,
to say the least. I thought I was about to
knock him like five six seven yards in the air
back into the ball carrier like in the movies, like
how I did it in college, and he went not
(13:40):
only did he not go anywhere, but I went to
the ground, and I mean like couldn't couldn't not go
like I went to the ground. So that that I mean, yeah,
five two A lot of punch and that that that
little body. I'll tell you that to be careful and
(14:00):
what it would be careful. London Fletcher played sixteen years Jesus, Yeah,
and still isn't in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know,
linebackers are one thing too. Then you go to fullbacks
and like that, you know when you're talking about certain
fullbacks and I don't know why, oh Lorenzo Neil, Like
there's dudes like tho, Yeah, like that was his only
(14:20):
job was to you ack you up like linebacker stuff
like cover and rush to other things. You I mean,
you could be jack, but you still got pretty athletic,
like if when the old school fullbacks gash, Yeah, you
could speak to a LaVar like those dudes just they
were trying to they were trying to kill you. Yeah. Yeah,
but Lorenzo Nil was was an animal. So it was Gash,
(14:40):
Gash and nil they were and they were Yeah, they
were animals. Was that the worst part of playing linebacker?
Or would you rather? Would you rather face a pulling
guard or tackle or would you have rather gone up
against a fullback with a full head of steam? Oh
that that hurts more hitting a full a fullback leg
Zo and and they're like, yeah, that hurts more. What
(15:02):
about Ironhead Hayward? I never played against him five eleven,
two sixty Cam Hayward's dad loved Ironhead back in the day.
That little thingy remember he did the little Lufa commercial
when Lufa's just came out. I think, commercial, man, you
gotta find a commercial Mannhead Hayward's commercial calling it a
(15:26):
little thing, little thingy. He was like in the shower.
He was going to commercials, like in a shower. Really, yes,
Oh that's uh interesting. I didn't know that. So so
there it is. We go live to are I've got
an update on Ironheads Lufa commercial insider lead to laughter.
The latest league. I am watching it currently. It's with
(15:48):
the little thing challenge you, and I challenge you to
try death the ordering body wash. Now I hear you snickering,
but I ain't hit a body washes for lady and
chump that doesn't have heavy moisturizers. But I ain't head.
What's with this thing? Body was to give you twice
(16:09):
the brest refresh period body wash? You so well done?
There you the little thing? What's with this little thingy?
By the way, who uses just a bar soap anymore?
Doesn't everybody use a loofa? I don't know how old
(16:29):
is that commercial? That's old? That's what I'm wondering, Like,
how old were you when you first saw it? Ninety seven?
No way, it's got to be older than ninety seven. No, No,
ninety seven sounds about right. I was a school Yeah, yeah,
ninety seven. He wasn't that much older than than me. Yeah,
he wasn't that much older than me. Yeah, ninety seven,
(16:51):
that's all right. And his sons are doing well. Cam
Hayward great career, Connors on the US, he still on
the Steelers. That Connor Heywood's on the we're both on
the scient Yeah yeah, yeah, so they yeah, they good
careers for both of them. And the great Greg Ironhead
Heyward filming a sub commercial in the late nineties. Who knew?
Who knew? But it is football Friday, so I think
(17:14):
that works. Be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar
Errington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio.
Speaking of somebody who may be out of a job
willingly so coming up here pretty quickly, Tyreek Hill. He
(17:35):
made some noise and so you're probably thinking, you know,
on a Master's Friday, why are we going to talk
about NFL. Oh that's because, as always, it's still a
football Friday. Yeahday, yeah yeah, Tiger, yeah yeah yeah. It
(18:00):
is a football Friday here on Fox Sports Radio, and
Tyreek Hill is the subject of this topic of conversation
because Tyreek Hill spoke yesterday, and it's always encouraging when
somebody is predicting when they're going to retire and there's
still seemingly plenty of football to go. But he spoke
with Deeter and Scherm on WHB in Kansas City yesterday
(18:23):
and talked about talked about what his future could look like.
Here was the Dolphins wide receiver. I'm going for a
Tim man. I'm gonna finish out this contract with the
Dolphins man and then I'm gonna call it quiz. You know,
I want to I want to go into the business side.
I want to, like, I want to do so many
things in my life. Bro, I really want to get
into like the gaming space, Like I really want to
get huge and that, and that's kind of what I'm
(18:44):
doing right now. I'm using my platform creating a gaming
team which isn't lunch yet. It should lunch by the
end of this month, so they running gaming. I'm gonna
just sign like different content creators and different athletes. So
I have a question for you. If he finds himself
in a couple of years, at the end of this
contract on the brink of say a thousand receptions, which
(19:07):
is doable only fourteen guys in the history of the
league have done it, or he's at on the brink
of getting to the thirteen thousand receiving yards mark, which
is top twenty all time, is he really going to
walk away and say I want to go play video games,
Like I'm not buying like that. It's like, I'm just like,
you're that close to being in rarefied air in the NFL,
(19:28):
and you're gonna walk away because you want to go
play Super Mario Kart. Come on, dude, Like what are
we doing here? Like this is an opportunity for him,
you don't walk away. There's too much money there. I'm
not buying it, not for one second. How about nine,
he's a Hall of Famer if you ask me, like
for All pros first team, if all of that's accurate,
(19:48):
four times first team, second team, one time, seven time
Pro Bowler. I mean he's a and he has a
super Bowl Championship on his resume. That's that's Uh, that's
a Hall of Fame career. I don't know if it's
first ballot, but I mean that's definitely Hall of Fame, accolades, accomplishments.
(20:09):
I mean some people listen, I played seven years. I
mean some people some people when it's when they feel
like it's time, it's time. Like everybody isn't going for
twenty year careers. I mean, it's just it is what
it is. Right, you you do it, and and some
(20:29):
people say, look, you do it until they kick you
out because it's it's they say, it's the easiest money
that you'll you'll ever make. Now. For others, there there
are things that become more important, you know. And and
some people it's family that becomes more important to them.
Some people it's business, some people it's education. Like everybody
(20:50):
has different motivations and and so I think you can
look at it and you can say, if you make
a fully vested career in the National Football League, you
won you're playing with house money because because you're going
to be able to get your pension and different things
like that. But some people their their idea. My idea
(21:12):
was to have a Hall of Fame career. It was
not to play twenty years, you know, and that I
wanted to get in and I wanted to get out
and and so you know, I blew my Achilles tendant
and at year seven, I was like, you know, this
is it, Like I'm not doing this anymore, Like this
is this is you know, no way, I'm not going
through this pain. I'm not going through these surgeries anymore.
(21:33):
I'm just not I'm not doing it. Anymore. So it
just depends on what a person's what their motivations are. Yeah,
I mean, you know, he talks a lot in this
interview about you know, what he's into off the field,
and he's twenty nine years old. I always felt like this.
Once NFL players get to around thirty, they start viewing
(21:55):
football and life and everything different. You know, when you
get out of college, it's the only thing that matters
to you. You know, you're just getting the league. This
is your dream. You're living out your dream. It's the
greatest thing in the world, especially at that point in
time in your life. And I mean still to this day,
I'd say it's it's the greatest thing in the world.
(22:17):
Like I mean, full disclosure. Like I told Jonas this
the other day, we were talking on the phone, like
everything after playing in the NFL, for me, it's hard
and not saying that I'm not passionate about it, but
it's hard to have the same type of passion because
it's not what I dreamt of as a little kid.
You know, It's it's not the Brown's you know, poster
(22:38):
and stuff that had up in my room as a kid,
and the notre names, stuff that had up as a kid,
you know, so it hits different. Hold on a second,
you mean to tell me you didn't grow up dreaming
one day that you could do the BQ News every
Wednesday on Fox Sports Radio. I mean, that is a
great point that did come along as part of the dream,
but that was it was not the dream at that point.
(22:59):
As as I lept in that little bed I had,
like one of those beds that was like a little
car type thing that my parents got me, I thought
that was the coolest thing ever until I hit my
head on the top of that been getting out. But
the point is is it is the coolest thing in
the world. And then as you start playing in the league,
and for me, it was a mixture of you know,
(23:20):
not performing the way I wanted to, injuries, coaching changes.
I mean I had what two coaches and two general managers,
spent a three years just in Cleveland. You know, I
get traded to Denver. I lose the coach who traded
for me twelve games into that season, and next thing,
you know, I got another head coach, and like it
seemed like you're you're just going I mean, can I
(23:42):
just get some stability here? And some of that's probably,
you know, my mistake for not signing back in Denver
and being there, but I wanted more of a chance
to play when I got the year six in Kansas City,
and I thought there's a better chance there, and there was,
but you know, things didn't go the way we had hoped.
But the point is this is, you know, there's a
(24:03):
lot of things that then factor into your career. And
the interesting thing about Tyree Hills at this point, his
career's gone pretty damn well, Like he has been the
first off for people who don't know he was a trade,
he transitioned from running back to receiver and because of
his elite speed coming out of college, and obviously he
had some other issues during that time in his life,
(24:25):
but once he got to the league as far as
a football player, he's really adapted and become, as you know,
LaVar said, one of the best receivers in the game.
But he hasn't had really many injuries, like he's been
pretty healthy, he's had a clean bill of health. Everything's
gone really well, about as well as you would have hoped.
(24:45):
So you know, his perspective at this point is probably like, well,
I got my Super Bowl, I've had a career that's
arguably going to be you know, Hall of Fame worthy
at some point in those discussions. So I'm gonna finish
out this deal, which by the end, by the end
of the deal, he would have made one hundred and
eighty million. You know, he said three more seasons to
get the year ten, which is probably more likely, and
(25:07):
he'll make one hundred and thirty five million by then.
In his career, his last year, he's slated to make
forty five million. They'll probably have to Admiami make some
sort of adjustment and put on some voided years or
something if he was going to play that last year.
But the point is he's made nine figures. He's done
extremely well. He's done everything you asked him to do.
(25:28):
If he wants to hang it up after ten years,
that he's got this other platform with gaming build up
and he's built out his team, so be it. You know,
go be happy to go do that next thing. By
the way, what a career, What a year he had
last year. I think everybody thought maybe if he left
Patrick Mahomes he'd have a little bit of a downturn
or he just wouldn't put up the same production that
(25:50):
was the best season of his career. Like last year
with the Dolphins, Tyreeka had the best season of his career.
And it's almost one of those deals where Kansas City
didn't miss a beat, they won a Super Bowl and
he went on and he had when one hundred nineteen
catches seventeen hundred yards. He was unbelievable. When's the last
time we've seen a trade workout where both sides it
really worked out for the only one I can think
(26:11):
of is recently Bill's vikings that turned into Justin Jefferson
and Stevon Diggs. That's the only one. Like he was
fantastic last year, and I don't know that a lot
of people, you know, thought that that was going to
be the case. He also they're playing at Kansas City
Miami as this year. Yeah, and that's gonna get a
little bit spicy because I don't know if he was
(26:33):
he really talking trash last year or was he just
really trying to pump up his current quarterback into a
tug of iloa, because it seemed like it was. It
wasn't in bad faith. He wasn't taking direct shots maybe
at Andy Reid from what I can remember, or Patrick Mahomes.
But he did. He did mention that they're going to
go into Kansas City and they're going to give him
(26:53):
everything they got and it's going to be you know
a little bit of a which, of course, by the way,
you would assume that, I mean, wouldn't you assume that's
to be every week? Yeah? Playing with that mentality, Yeah, yeah,
that's one of those things where it's like, oh yeah,
going back and we're gonna give them everything we got.
It's like, well, next week, don't you want to give
him everything you got? Well, yeah, we will for that
one too. Yeah. I don't ever give without trying to
(27:14):
give everything I got. That's so I'll tell you. Yeah,
that's that's like a mentality, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
on the field, off the fields, I mean, why would
you why would you give some of what you got? Yeah?
You know, I mean if you're gonna they say show
your wares? Is that what they say? Empty the tank?
Empty the tank? Yeah, Well, don't play around with that stuff.
(27:36):
You want to leave an impression. I kind of summarized
and give a generic, uh you know a quote there
from Tyreek Hill. The actual quote was, guess what we're
gonna do. I hate to say it, man, I hate
to throw up the peace side again against y'all. I
hate to do it. But guess what, I'm gonna be
all worst enemy that day. I'm gonna be all worst
enemy that day. I love some more specific When guys
(28:00):
that sound most, that sound natural, it's so funny, Like
you know who the funniest is when Dan Patrick does it.
It is the funniest. The latest one I heard Dan
do was when he ran Lamar Jackson's tweets. By the way,
those have so many grammatical errors. It's it's funny because
(28:23):
I get gramatical rors. Man, they're correct. Yeah, there you go,
there you go. Thank you, Q thank you for pointing
that out. All right, fair enough. By the way, we
are brought to you by Discover. At the end of
your first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all the
cash back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously,
ce terms and check it out for yourself at Discover
(28:44):
dot com. Forward slash Match, we're gonna have another edition
of in case you missed it coming up here. You
want to hear it again? No, no, come on, let's
hear it again. Let's hear the Chief's kingdom when the
Miami Dolphins come to Arrowhead Stadium this year. Guess what
we're gonna do. Guess what we're gonna do. I hate
to say it, man, I hate to throw up the
(29:05):
peace side against y'all. I hate to do it. But
guess what. I'm gonna be y'all worst enemy that day.
I'm gonna be y'all worst enemy that day. Wait, so
are you repeating it or is he repeating in the text.
I'm just I'm just reading the quote. I know I'm
saying like so he repeated like a couple of things
in there a couple of times. Yes, he repeated them.
(29:27):
I read quote for quote right there. That was everywhere
dropping I was dropping bars what I was doing. Yeah.
So be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
(29:47):
and Jonas Knox week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific. Hey, it's me Rob Parker. Check out my
weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker, twenty two minutes of
piping hot baseball talk, featuring the biggest name to newsmakers
in the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the Eyecast.
(30:09):
We've got all the basis cover. New episodes drop every Thursday,
So do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the
Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeart Radio app or
wherever you get your podcast. So Cam Newton would like
to get back in the NFL, and obviously former MVP
in the league had a great run, but he hasn't.
(30:31):
He wasn't in the league last year and it's been
kind of a downward trend for Cam Newton over the
past couple of years. He showed up at Auburn's pro
day wanted to be show everybody you could still make
some throws. Can we pause before we get to like
what he said recently? Yeah, I'm more curious, like what
the consensus is, Like, do you guys think that it's
(30:51):
more him just not wanting to take on a role
where he's gonna be designated as a backup and maybe
the money's not right, or do you think it's it's maybe.
I mean one of the things that I think Cam
does is he pumps out. I think the videos are sweet.
He puts out a lot of good content, whether it's
like an interview or if he's working out. But there's
(31:13):
also a lot of teams that we've seen this before
where like when you're not the guy, teams don't want
the backup to be doing that, Like they just want
you to be like a shadow, you know, they want
you to be a shadow of the guy who is
the guy until it's your turn to play and then
you can take over. But like, do you think it's
more that or do you think it's just maybe more
(31:34):
Cam and him not wanting to take a discount or
take a role that's or he's not the starter, especially
for being an MVP. I think it's more that. I
think the loudest guy in the room can't be the
guy who's not playing. You know, it's like the buddy
who's not going to fight, but he's talking, he's running
his mouth, and Cam's Cam's loud, not meaning you know,
in an actual literal, literal way that well, no, just
(31:57):
if he goes and back accept a quarterback, a lot
of the conversation is going to be about the former
MVP who's backing you up. I just think that some
guys just aren't good fits for that. But that doesn't
always equate like a former MVPs or backup. That's a
problem that doesn't always well. Tim Tim Tebow's a backup.
Tim Tebow's a backup. A terrible idea. I think Colin
(32:21):
Kaepernick is a backup. Terrible idea. I think, Well, here's
the here's the truth. It's a fine line. Because I've
said this before. There's some guys who are great backups.
You don't know why, because they don't actually want to play, Like,
they don't actually want to get in the game and play.
Wait what, They just want to sit there, hold a
clipboard and make a lot of money and then they
(32:43):
want to keep pumping up the guy who started. I
swear to God, like this is the case. You will
find some guys who they don't want to play. When
they do want to play, they want to do in
the preseason because they know they're gonna go in there
a bunch of backups and they're gonna be able to
dice it up, put up a bunch of stats, put
on some good tape, and then still look the part.
I mean, there's Colln's guys you've seen that have done that,
that have hung on for a long time, buddying up
(33:07):
to the starter. It's just the reality when there's when
there's a solidified starter on a roster, he doesn't want
some a hole coming in and every single day challenging him.
He doesn't want that. He doesn't want a distraction. He
doesn't he's not trying to compete with some dude on
the roster. He's competing for a super Bowl. He's he's
(33:28):
focused on everything else, So he doesn't need a distraction
or someone who's not helping him prepare or helping or
doing the things that he needs them to do. And
so there's plenty of guys who would do that. It's
like some of the names you just gave, like Tim Tebow,
super competitive guy. He wants to play, he wants a shot.
That's how he always was. Same thing with Cam Newton.
(33:49):
He's MVP, he's been to a super Bowl. You know.
I mean, I'm sure I can guarantee you. And he
said it publicly. He knows he's better than some of
the other guys who are probably starting in today's game,
and he's probably not wrong. But other teams don't see
it the same way, and so there's there's a fine
line to this, and organizations know it too, like they
(34:10):
don't want to bring a guy in there who's gonna
bring down the mood because he's not playing. You know,
they want a guy who sits in there and it's
gonna be you know, quiet, but but speak up with
something one's spoken upon and able to, you know, help
give them some help with some of their experience and
things they've seen. But but taking on a much different role.
But that's just the truth of the man. I mean,
what coach or organization would want a player on their
(34:34):
team that doesn't think they're better than the person that's
in front of him. I mean, that would be the
first thing that you would would would throw out there.
But then the idea of it is, it's those names
that you name, Jonas all Right, Kaepernick, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow.
It's the presence that's what makes saying I'm I'm better
(34:56):
than these starters out here. That's what makes it. It
takes the stakes very high by the way, you like
how I threw Tebow in there so I couldn't they
couldn't come after me, you know what I mean, we
truly have made this kind of like a deal, like
you know that has become a deal anyway I mean
it you did throw Tim Tebow in their bed. I
(35:18):
mean clear sailing from here. I'm good, but I could
have went down a road that would have been a
no go down that road. No, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm gonna stay focused on my point. The
point is is that those guys are a presence media wise,
you know, like outside of just being dominant presence, where
(35:41):
guys are going to be followers to them, not just
teammates to them, They're going to be followers all three
of them. I'm going to follow Cam Newton. I am
a follower of Tim Tebow. I am a follower of
Colin Kaepernick. So now you're creating an unnecessary risk of sorts.
(36:03):
It's a risk by by dividing your locker room because
it's a guarantee at some point your starter is going
to have a poor game. He's gonna have a poor showing.
It's guarantee, like it just it happens. The moment you
have a poor showing, you know what everybody's gonna do.
They're gonna be looking like, why ain't what? Why ain't
Cam playing? Yo? Yo? What's up? What Tim? Why isn't
(36:25):
Tim Tebow playing? Why? Why they up? Against him, Oh,
we know why they're up against Cap like, man, come on, Cap,
like they need to play cat. And then once that starts,
it's over. It's over because now you're looking at your
starter like, come on, dog like it really like everybody's
starting to talk. Everybody's looking at each other, and then
(36:46):
now your fans are doing it, and now your media
is doing it, and now you have a mess. Isn't
that kind of if you just think about that, isn't
that kind of odd that in the one place in
the NFL where you don't want to have of a
really really really good player is at backup quarterback, Like
(37:06):
that's it's almost like the one place where you you
don't want to you don't want anybody to feel threatened,
and it's at that one place because it would cause
that sort of an issue like that. It's just kind
of odd how that works because everywhere else it feels
like there's competition. And Brady's talked about this before, like
why did they why did they go on the cheap,
so to speak so much with the backup quarterback? Why
wouldn't you want to bring in somebody or you know,
(37:28):
the three quarterback rule and all this It's like from
starter from starter to backup is such a drop off
for so many places. I lived that my rookie year.
Brett Johnson was our starter. Jeff George was our backup.
Howitzer right now, yeah, yeah, both commented about the backup.
(37:54):
Think about that, and you're right that man's arm was crazy.
Room like, I mean, here's the point. Brad Johnson was
a dope starter and went on to win a super
Bowl the very next year. So it's it's kind of
like when you have that going on in the locker room,
(38:18):
you want to know what happened. It's like, man, I'm
cool with Brad. We were here with Brad. We're the
old guard. Like there's a new owner. He's bringing in
his new people. Died, I died this, that and other
guys that have been a part of this team making
it to the playoffs, doing pretty well, trending in the
right direction. They're getting they're getting unseated, they're they're losing
their jobs to the guys that the new owner wants
(38:39):
to be a part of that that they want them
to play. And and now you bring in Jeff George.
We're we're in practices, we're in OTA's and clearly, Jeff
George's arm is better than Brad Johnson's clearly, and but
but Brad Johnson is the guy, right and the first
(39:03):
sign of any type of trouble that Norv had, he
had to put the guy that the owner won it
on the team. He had to put him in the game.
It was not the right decision because while Jeff George's
arm was super dope, and I love Jeff George, I
like a lot of people didn't like him. I thought
Jeff was cool. He was always cool to me. But
(39:25):
the moment you put Jeff George in, you lost half
of that locker room and you took away really the
leadership value that Brad Johnson had established, Like, you took
it away. And so when you have a talented backup
that's as talented, if not better than your starter, you
(39:49):
are taking a serious I don't even know if it's
necessary risk. You are taking a serious risk by having
that type of at high on your bench behind as
a backup. Like that's just even if they were the
most humble dude in the world, even if they were
like just because Tim Tebow is a humble dude. I mean,
(40:12):
so if you're talking about they're loud and this and that. What.
Maybe the guy isn't loud, but if his game is loud,
if his game is good, if he's got a game,
you're putting yourself in in danger having that type of
guys your backup. I think people can misconstrue um like
actions and words. Right, there's guys who are verbally loud,
(40:32):
and there's guys whose actions create noise, and that's those
are both things that again, an organization doesn't want, you know,
they don't want that out of their backup. Again, they
want to be a shout out. They want to be
like Peter Pan's shout out he's gonna fall, He's gonna fall.
To start around that, that's it, and be able to
go in there and be serviceable. But Jonah said, I
didn't mean to um distract from comments conversation because it's
(40:57):
it's it's an it's interesting the teams that he laid
out that he'd be willing to back up, or the
quarterbacks if you wanted to back up. So, according to
Cam Newton, the list of quarterbacks that he would be
willing to back up our Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, justin
fields to a Tugabyloa, Malik Willis, Jalen Hurts, Aaron Rodgers,
(41:19):
Josh Allen and Sam Howell and including the rookie I mean,
I mean not every last one of them is all black.
I mean, I don't have the greatest TV in the world,
but Josh Allen doesn't parody or Sam Howe. But but
(41:40):
but there is uh. He did list, you know, some
of the rookies coming into the NFL, quarterback Cam Newton,
the rookies that he would be willing to back up CJ. Stroud,
Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson Black a little bit everything Black, Brady,
I mean, right on, A Will Levis. Let me tell
(42:03):
you something. They're gonna be rioting in Lexington. If Will
Levis's name is not popping here, he's too jacked up
to be to be good at quarterback, mind you. One
of the most jacked up, the biggest Adonis that I've
ever seen and played against, is Cam Newton. Oh my gosh.
No one said that about Cam Newton when he came out,
But apparently Will Levis is too jacked up. I mean,
(42:25):
Cam's won an MVP, He's one of the NFC Conference
He's won a lot of games, played, a lot of
good football, but apparently you know, jacked up. I just
that whole thing, the whole narrative, man. And you know,
it's funny like it comes from agents. It comes from
other players agents trying to knock down other guys so
their guy can shine, which is like so high school gossipy,
(42:50):
like clicky, just immature and stupid. You know, like there's
enough of an opportunity for all these guys to get drafted.
You don't need to bad mouth other guys and make
stuff up that other teams said. And it's just I
hate that narrative. I do. It's kind of a if
he's looking if he really wants back in the NFL
that bad, why eliminate the opportunities else thirds of the league? Yeah,
(43:13):
it's like to me, I just feel like he's backing
up Milik Willis, so he wants to be third string
in Tennessee. Yeah, I mean Belik Willis at the starter there.
I mean it's is that how that works? Yeah? All
the backup to the backup for the backup in Tennessee.
Appa a lot of but it did seem like there
(43:35):
was a theme there. I don't know for for some
of those, as Labar pointed out, wouldn't be clear. Labar
pointed that I hope, I hope he does get an
opportunity to get back. I love Cam Newton first off,
and by the way, he is one of the better
thirty two quarterbacks right like bottom line, he is. I
know his game might not be the same as what
it used to be, you know, because he's not as
young and maybe not quite as as mobile as he
(43:56):
used to be, But the reality is he's right. He
he probably is better than some of the guys out
there playing, and I hope someone gives him opportunity, or
I hope at least he takes the opportunity to take
something that you know is maybe against what he wants,
but to help him have an opportunity to improve himself
and prove himself right. Fox Sports Radio has the best
(44:17):
sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our
shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.
Search FSR to listen live.
It's the best of two Pros and a Cup of
Joe with Lamar Area, Rady Quinn, and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, I was going to
mention this to you guys. I don't want to catch
you off guard. I don't want anybody to be surprised
by this or alarmed. But it's a football Friday. Yeah,
(00:23):
come on Friday, Yeah, Tiger Woods, it is. It is
a football Friday. Area, as he is on Fox Sports
Radio here on two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
It's a football Friday. And so of course on a
(00:45):
football Friday, it makes all the sense in the world
to start with the Masters. I mean, why wouldn't we
start with the Masters? The star hop on this piano stool,
you're start banging away because we've got the Masters, the azaleas,
(01:06):
all the other fun stuff. The fake bird noises, and
we start with a our heartwarming tale at the Masters,
a man like Harold Varner. Harold Varner, who is certainly
sitting at even par teeing off later this hour, tied
for thirty seventh that AUGUSTA National and you're probably thinking
(01:28):
of yourselves, why are we starting with the guy who's
tied for thirty seventh of his name is in Tiger Woods. Well,
it's because Harold Varner had the quote of all quotes
in an interview with the Washington Post. Harold Varner, who
was one of the eighteen golfers playing at the Masters
who defected to go to the Live Tour for a
(01:48):
reported fifteen million dollars signing bonus. Now, the exact number
of the contract we don't know, but we do know
the signing bonus, and it was fifteen million dollars When
he made the decision in August, Harold Varner said, quote,
the truth is, my life is changing. The opportunity to
join live Golf is simply too good of a financial
breakthrough for me to pass by. I know what it
(02:11):
means to grow up without much. This money is going
to ensure that my kid and future of Varners will
have a solid base to start on. Your opinion of
me may change because of this announcement. No, lie, that'll
be a tough thing to deal with. But I haven't changed.
I'm still me, I promise you that. Now. He did
(02:31):
speak with the Washington Post, and he's talked with the
Washington Post about some of the comments made by live
golfers who said they left to go to the live
tour to grow the game, and the very heartwarming Harold
Varner said the following quote, They're full of bleep. They're
growing their pockets. I tell them all the time, all
of them. You didn't come here to effing grow the
(02:53):
fffing game. End quote. So a little bit of brutal
honesty from Harold Varner and his fifteen million dollars he
took from the lift are about it? Well, honestly is
what it is. I mean, that's the reality of it.
You know, he's not afraid to say it. Other people
obviously afraid to say it. Um. The hard thing about
the decision a lot of these people made is, you know,
(03:16):
there's a there's a moral or ethical consideration because of
where the money's coming from. Right, it's the Saudi backed
Live Golf Tour, and it's it's backed by the Saudi
uh govern Sovereign Fund, which a lot of people will
tie that back to nine to eleven and where some
of the funds came from for you know that the
(03:36):
terrorist attacks that occurred, and there's a lot of people
who've you know, are very frustrated and saddened and angered
by the decision for these players to do it because
of that um and and so if you if you
stripped that away, and then you just look at it
purely from a financial sense. For these individuals, you know,
it's it's a good deal for them. They get guaranteed
(03:59):
money in a sport that doesn't offer that, at least
not until a lot of these guys moved on to
the Live Golf Tour, and that came about before you
now start to see the PGA Tour start to take
care of guys and at least give them a minimum
amount or like a salary they'll get, you know, throughout
the year. It's the only sport you could think of
where you could show up for work every single weekend
(04:21):
and not make anything if you do. If you're on
the PGA Tour and you don't make a cut outside
of your sponsorships, which is largely probably paying for you
and your caddies travel, that's it. You know, you're not
making very much money if anything, and it could be
a really really rough deal for you. So for some
of these players that you went over to take the money,
(04:43):
if you're talking about from a purely financial standpoint, you
can see why they do it, and at least he's
being honest about it. It's refreshing. You know, I don't
expect any feedback from me. I'll tell you that q
Q and you yeah, yeah, I got this one. So now,
obviously the live golfers and some of the guys on
(05:05):
the PGA Tour have taken shots at them leaving and
going there, and it's been very controversial for everybody involved.
Varner did though, he spoke with The Washington Post about
just sort of how the PGA Tour is upset that
live golf maybe cutting into their bottom line, and he
said the following, They're just mad that you're effing with
(05:25):
their money. I think some people are jealous, and that's
just the way it is. The tour has made it
where they say it's not about the money. I don't
care what anyone says. It's about the damn money. And
also I think some of the golfers on the PGA
Tour have probably changed their tune a little bit. Was
it Rory McElroy who who's softened up a little bit,
because I think they've all acknowledged, you know, the fact
(05:47):
that there was competition kind of made us change the
way we do things, and didn't they add in a
little bit like the winnings and some of the money
that was available at the PGA Tour actually grew because
of Live Golf. So it's not like Live Golf just
went in, took a bunch and said screw you. Guys
in the PGA store and PGA Tour just stood their
ground and said no, no, no, we're gonna do it
(06:09):
our way and we're gonna keep tradition. They did it
just and I think part of that was the pressure
they felt from the Live Tour as well too, So
there's that. That's always the fun stuff here. So no
comments of bar Arrington on the tour. You know, I'll
just say I am a patriot and I do love America.
I love everything about us, say even the ugly, because
(06:31):
you know, you can't have the good without having the bad.
And you know, as it applies to golf, you know,
those those who took umbradge with with the Live Tour
and people who signed with it. I mean, it's it's
understandable why people will be offended by it because of
things that it's connected to. So just kind of what
(06:51):
I would go with that's but in terms of having
an opinion about the sport itself, you know, I just
say I like the courses. I like the clubhouses. I
like the drinks and the food and the golf carting
around and the banter between friends, and that's about it. Yeah.
I mean, it's as far as I go with it.
Your point was well taken, as you know, when it
(07:13):
came to live Golf, and just sort of the background
and the controversy there and um like Brooks kept Go
for example, he's part of the Live Tour, and I
believe that is Oh yeah, that's the Lavars guy. Brooks
kept guy from a hat leading just keep that man,
okay from a hat? All right, that's my guy. That's
my pick. That was drawn randomly when when he was
(07:34):
as as good as anyone in his prime. Now he
had a knee injury as well too, so he's kind
of coming back from that. Does like a linebacker. I
was just gonna say, it doesn't quite look like the
linebacker that everyone build him out to be right. I
thought I would take a fence like I would have
taken at all. No, not even close. I mean, it's
(07:58):
disrespectful to all line it really is. I agree, I
just I wish there was a contingent of linebackers. You
took it up with a PGA back when they were
saying that about him. What is Brooks kept away? If
you had to guess if we're talking linebackers here all
r because I might, I might have a case. I
don't care what he waits. It doesn't look like a linebacker.
You could wait two hundred and forty pounds and be
(08:20):
a golfer. That doesn't mean you're gonna look like a linebacker.
Ye two oh five. Damn I was gonna say I
thought he was one eighty five and I waited in
yesterday at one ninety two, So I was like, damn,
that could have been. So maybe I could claim that
I'm a linebacker two, but I still can't. That's unfortunate.
So sorry, Leabar, I can't join the family. It's going
to be part of the linebacker family still stick City,
(08:41):
but it's not happening. So Brooks kept six feet two
h five. You know you'll get mad if I call
you out on what you just did, but I'm not.
I'm not gonna do it. But you know it was
just so passive aggressive. It was passive aggressive. It was
almost big enough to be a linebacker. No, you're not.
I'm just saying, if Brooks, why can't I even if
(09:01):
you were bigger, you're not. Like, didn't you just hear
what Ja's messed it? You could be into two hundred
pound range and still not look like an lb. That's right.
Who's the smallest linebacker you ever played with? Maybe Dexter Cokeley?
He's pretty small. What was his though? Let's see what
Dexter Cokely? And that's kind of my greater point is
(09:22):
let's say Dexter was two twenty. These dudes are jacked
like to the gills, like there's no comparison. There is
no comparison. Dexter Cokele was five ten two thirty six.
I mean that's like a little one. Yeah, that is
like that's like a Dura cell. Which one's the D battery,
the D battery battery? Right? Like they were just a battery.
(09:46):
There's no neck all right. They got this head that
sits on top of it like the or was that
the positive portion of the battery? Right? The positive that's
like their head just straight, broad shoulders. Why look up?
Joe Mays I got to play with Joe Mason Denver.
(10:08):
He hits someone so hard on an on side kick,
and I can promise you two and he's got a
neck like a tree truck. Joe was so yoked up.
I'm sure he still is to this day because Joe
had that mental He's just he worked hard, man, He
lifted hard. He hit this dude so hard to an
onside kick, because like that's what people don't understand. But
(10:30):
on side kicks, okay, there is one dude on the
receiving team who's designated to catch it, and then there's
one dude on the kicking team that's designated to knock
that dude out, and everyone else who's lined up across
from each other, they're just there to see if they
can't knock the other dude out. Like it is as
old school football as it gets, which is probably the
(10:51):
reason why they're trying to get rid of the play.
But Joe hit this guy across from him. He wasn't
the dude, you know, trying to hit the guy receiving.
He was on the front lines. He was just trying
to take someone out. He hit him so damn hard.
I remember why I would you know, quarterbacks stay in
special teams meetings for like field goal pat and so
we'd always kind of be in there to watch some
(11:12):
of the stuff, even though we'd be like taking notes
talking about something else. He hit. He hit someone so
hard we were playing in Kansas City. It literally knocked
the player. He swayed from one end of the screen,
like watching from the All twenty twos, from one end
of the screen out of the frame and then swayed
back the other way across the stream and just dropped
Like I'd never seen someone get hit that hard and
(11:33):
like keep their feet for that long and then swayed
that far before being dropped. It would have been like
a boxer taken like a hook to the head and
then walking around the ring stumbling and then finally dropping.
It was but that that's a linebacker apparently. So I
brought up London Fletcher. I remember my I want to say,
(11:54):
my rookie year we played and it was still the
greatest show on turf um and he was in the wedge,
so it's kind of it was a special teams deal
and I was on kickoff and in college I made
my my reputation off of blowing people up on kickoff,
like blowing up wedges and stuff like that. So I
(12:14):
was going towards the wedge. I was the five, I
was on the hash marks. I'm going down the hash
and I see London Fletcher. I'm lace London Fletcher. I
am about to destroy him, like I am going to
I am going to assassinate smooth criminal style London Fletcher.
I'm about to get him. I'm I'm dialed in. He
(12:35):
sees me, I see him, we are about to do it.
I get to him and hit him with all my might. Boom,
and I'm gonna hold on. Wait, wait, wait a second,
Why am I? Why am I going down? Like I
couldn't feel my legs. I couldn't like everything went numb,
and he was standing there. He was still like he
(12:57):
was and then ran off. I don't know, I don't
know what happened, but but he didn't go down. I
didn't blow him up, and I fell down. And that
was when I realized, Like there were a few things
that helped you to realize that you're not dealing with
college guys anymore, and you're not playing at the college,
(13:17):
like when people say that you have transitioned and it's
different and you have to adjust and adapt. There there
were a few moments and that was one of them,
and and it was it was a very humbling experience,
to say the least. I thought I was about to
knock him like five six seven yards in the air
back into the ball carrier like in the movies, like
how I did it in college, and he went not
(13:40):
only did he not go anywhere, but I went to
the ground, and I mean like couldn't couldn't not go
like I went to the ground. So that that I mean, yeah,
five two A lot of punch and that that that
little body. I'll tell you that to be careful and
(14:00):
what it would be careful. London Fletcher played sixteen years Jesus, Yeah,
and still isn't in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know,
linebackers are one thing too. Then you go to fullbacks
and like that, you know when you're talking about certain
fullbacks and I don't know why, oh Lorenzo Neil, Like
there's dudes like tho, Yeah, like that was his only
(14:20):
job was to you ack you up like linebacker stuff
like cover and rush to other things. You I mean,
you could be jack, but you still got pretty athletic,
like if when the old school fullbacks gash, Yeah, you
could speak to a LaVar like those dudes just they
were trying to they were trying to kill you. Yeah. Yeah,
but Lorenzo Nil was was an animal. So it was Gash,
(14:40):
Gash and nil they were and they were Yeah, they
were animals. Was that the worst part of playing linebacker?
Or would you rather? Would you rather face a pulling
guard or tackle or would you have rather gone up
against a fullback with a full head of steam? Oh
that that hurts more hitting a full a fullback leg
Zo and and they're like, yeah, that hurts more. What
(15:02):
about Ironhead Hayward? I never played against him five eleven,
two sixty Cam Hayward's dad loved Ironhead back in the day.
That little thingy remember he did the little Lufa commercial
when Lufa's just came out. I think, commercial, man, you
gotta find a commercial Mannhead Hayward's commercial calling it a
(15:26):
little thing, little thingy. He was like in the shower.
He was going to commercials, like in a shower. Really, yes,
Oh that's uh interesting. I didn't know that. So so
there it is. We go live to are I've got
an update on Ironheads Lufa commercial insider lead to laughter.
The latest league. I am watching it currently. It's with
(15:48):
the little thing challenge you, and I challenge you to
try death the ordering body wash. Now I hear you snickering,
but I ain't hit a body washes for lady and
chump that doesn't have heavy moisturizers. But I ain't head.
What's with this thing? Body was to give you twice
(16:09):
the brest refresh period body wash? You so well done?
There you the little thing? What's with this little thingy?
By the way, who uses just a bar soap anymore?
Doesn't everybody use a loofa? I don't know how old
(16:29):
is that commercial? That's old? That's what I'm wondering, Like,
how old were you when you first saw it? Ninety seven?
No way, it's got to be older than ninety seven. No, No,
ninety seven sounds about right. I was a school Yeah, yeah,
ninety seven. He wasn't that much older than than me. Yeah,
he wasn't that much older than me. Yeah, ninety seven,
(16:51):
that's all right. And his sons are doing well. Cam
Hayward great career, Connors on the US, he still on
the Steelers. That Connor Heywood's on the we're both on
the scient Yeah yeah, yeah, so they yeah, they good
careers for both of them. And the great Greg Ironhead
Heyward filming a sub commercial in the late nineties. Who knew?
Who knew? But it is football Friday, so I think
(17:14):
that works. Be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar
Errington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio.
Speaking of somebody who may be out of a job
willingly so coming up here pretty quickly, Tyreek Hill. He
(17:35):
made some noise and so you're probably thinking, you know,
on a Master's Friday, why are we going to talk
about NFL. Oh that's because, as always, it's still a
football Friday. Yeahday, yeah yeah, Tiger, yeah yeah yeah. It
(18:00):
is a football Friday here on Fox Sports Radio, and
Tyreek Hill is the subject of this topic of conversation
because Tyreek Hill spoke yesterday, and it's always encouraging when
somebody is predicting when they're going to retire and there's
still seemingly plenty of football to go. But he spoke
with Deeter and Scherm on WHB in Kansas City yesterday
(18:23):
and talked about talked about what his future could look like.
Here was the Dolphins wide receiver. I'm going for a
Tim man. I'm gonna finish out this contract with the
Dolphins man and then I'm gonna call it quiz. You know,
I want to I want to go into the business side.
I want to, like, I want to do so many
things in my life. Bro, I really want to get
into like the gaming space, Like I really want to
get huge and that, and that's kind of what I'm
(18:44):
doing right now. I'm using my platform creating a gaming
team which isn't lunch yet. It should lunch by the
end of this month, so they running gaming. I'm gonna
just sign like different content creators and different athletes. So
I have a question for you. If he finds himself
in a couple of years, at the end of this
contract on the brink of say a thousand receptions, which
(19:07):
is doable only fourteen guys in the history of the
league have done it, or he's at on the brink
of getting to the thirteen thousand receiving yards mark, which
is top twenty all time, is he really going to
walk away and say I want to go play video games,
Like I'm not buying like that. It's like, I'm just like,
you're that close to being in rarefied air in the NFL,
(19:28):
and you're gonna walk away because you want to go
play Super Mario Kart. Come on, dude, Like what are
we doing here? Like this is an opportunity for him,
you don't walk away. There's too much money there. I'm
not buying it, not for one second. How about nine,
he's a Hall of Famer if you ask me, like
for All pros first team, if all of that's accurate,
(19:48):
four times first team, second team, one time, seven time
Pro Bowler. I mean he's a and he has a
super Bowl Championship on his resume. That's that's Uh, that's
a Hall of Fame career. I don't know if it's
first ballot, but I mean that's definitely Hall of Fame, accolades, accomplishments.
(20:09):
I mean some people listen, I played seven years. I
mean some people some people when it's when they feel
like it's time, it's time. Like everybody isn't going for
twenty year careers. I mean, it's just it is what
it is. Right, you you do it, and and some
(20:29):
people say, look, you do it until they kick you
out because it's it's they say, it's the easiest money
that you'll you'll ever make. Now. For others, there there
are things that become more important, you know. And and
some people it's family that becomes more important to them.
Some people it's business, some people it's education. Like everybody
(20:50):
has different motivations and and so I think you can
look at it and you can say, if you make
a fully vested career in the National Football League, you
won you're playing with house money because because you're going
to be able to get your pension and different things
like that. But some people their their idea. My idea
(21:12):
was to have a Hall of Fame career. It was
not to play twenty years, you know, and that I
wanted to get in and I wanted to get out
and and so you know, I blew my Achilles tendant
and at year seven, I was like, you know, this
is it, Like I'm not doing this anymore, Like this
is this is you know, no way, I'm not going
through this pain. I'm not going through these surgeries anymore.
(21:33):
I'm just not I'm not doing it. Anymore. So it
just depends on what a person's what their motivations are. Yeah,
I mean, you know, he talks a lot in this
interview about you know, what he's into off the field,
and he's twenty nine years old. I always felt like this.
Once NFL players get to around thirty, they start viewing
(21:55):
football and life and everything different. You know, when you
get out of college, it's the only thing that matters
to you. You know, you're just getting the league. This
is your dream. You're living out your dream. It's the
greatest thing in the world, especially at that point in
time in your life. And I mean still to this day,
I'd say it's it's the greatest thing in the world.
(22:17):
Like I mean, full disclosure. Like I told Jonas this
the other day, we were talking on the phone, like
everything after playing in the NFL, for me, it's hard
and not saying that I'm not passionate about it, but
it's hard to have the same type of passion because
it's not what I dreamt of as a little kid.
You know, It's it's not the Brown's you know, poster
(22:38):
and stuff that had up in my room as a kid,
and the notre names, stuff that had up as a kid,
you know, so it hits different. Hold on a second,
you mean to tell me you didn't grow up dreaming
one day that you could do the BQ News every
Wednesday on Fox Sports Radio. I mean, that is a
great point that did come along as part of the dream,
but that was it was not the dream at that point.
(22:59):
As as I lept in that little bed I had,
like one of those beds that was like a little
car type thing that my parents got me, I thought
that was the coolest thing ever until I hit my
head on the top of that been getting out. But
the point is is it is the coolest thing in
the world. And then as you start playing in the league,
and for me, it was a mixture of you know,
(23:20):
not performing the way I wanted to, injuries, coaching changes.
I mean I had what two coaches and two general managers,
spent a three years just in Cleveland. You know, I
get traded to Denver. I lose the coach who traded
for me twelve games into that season, and next thing,
you know, I got another head coach, and like it
seemed like you're you're just going I mean, can I
(23:42):
just get some stability here? And some of that's probably,
you know, my mistake for not signing back in Denver
and being there, but I wanted more of a chance
to play when I got the year six in Kansas City,
and I thought there's a better chance there, and there was,
but you know, things didn't go the way we had hoped.
But the point is this is, you know, there's a
(24:03):
lot of things that then factor into your career. And
the interesting thing about Tyree Hills at this point, his
career's gone pretty damn well, Like he has been the
first off for people who don't know he was a trade,
he transitioned from running back to receiver and because of
his elite speed coming out of college, and obviously he
had some other issues during that time in his life,
(24:25):
but once he got to the league as far as
a football player, he's really adapted and become, as you know,
LaVar said, one of the best receivers in the game.
But he hasn't had really many injuries, like he's been
pretty healthy, he's had a clean bill of health. Everything's
gone really well, about as well as you would have hoped.
(24:45):
So you know, his perspective at this point is probably like, well,
I got my Super Bowl, I've had a career that's
arguably going to be you know, Hall of Fame worthy
at some point in those discussions. So I'm gonna finish
out this deal, which by the end, by the end
of the deal, he would have made one hundred and
eighty million. You know, he said three more seasons to
get the year ten, which is probably more likely, and
(25:07):
he'll make one hundred and thirty five million by then.
In his career, his last year, he's slated to make
forty five million. They'll probably have to Admiami make some
sort of adjustment and put on some voided years or
something if he was going to play that last year.
But the point is he's made nine figures. He's done
extremely well. He's done everything you asked him to do.
(25:28):
If he wants to hang it up after ten years,
that he's got this other platform with gaming build up
and he's built out his team, so be it. You know,
go be happy to go do that next thing. By
the way, what a career, What a year he had
last year. I think everybody thought maybe if he left
Patrick Mahomes he'd have a little bit of a downturn
or he just wouldn't put up the same production that
(25:50):
was the best season of his career. Like last year
with the Dolphins, Tyreeka had the best season of his career.
And it's almost one of those deals where Kansas City
didn't miss a beat, they won a Super Bowl and
he went on and he had when one hundred nineteen
catches seventeen hundred yards. He was unbelievable. When's the last
time we've seen a trade workout where both sides it
really worked out for the only one I can think
(26:11):
of is recently Bill's vikings that turned into Justin Jefferson
and Stevon Diggs. That's the only one. Like he was
fantastic last year, and I don't know that a lot
of people, you know, thought that that was going to
be the case. He also they're playing at Kansas City
Miami as this year. Yeah, and that's gonna get a
little bit spicy because I don't know if he was
(26:33):
he really talking trash last year or was he just
really trying to pump up his current quarterback into a
tug of iloa, because it seemed like it was. It
wasn't in bad faith. He wasn't taking direct shots maybe
at Andy Reid from what I can remember, or Patrick Mahomes.
But he did. He did mention that they're going to
go into Kansas City and they're going to give him
(26:53):
everything they got and it's going to be you know
a little bit of a which, of course, by the way,
you would assume that, I mean, wouldn't you assume that's
to be every week? Yeah? Playing with that mentality, Yeah, yeah,
that's one of those things where it's like, oh yeah,
going back and we're gonna give them everything we got.
It's like, well, next week, don't you want to give
him everything you got? Well, yeah, we will for that
one too. Yeah. I don't ever give without trying to
(27:14):
give everything I got. That's so I'll tell you. Yeah,
that's that's like a mentality, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
on the field, off the fields, I mean, why would
you why would you give some of what you got? Yeah?
You know, I mean if you're gonna they say show
your wares? Is that what they say? Empty the tank?
Empty the tank? Yeah, Well, don't play around with that stuff.
(27:36):
You want to leave an impression. I kind of summarized
and give a generic, uh you know a quote there
from Tyreek Hill. The actual quote was, guess what we're
gonna do. I hate to say it, man, I hate
to throw up the peace side again against y'all. I
hate to do it. But guess what, I'm gonna be
all worst enemy that day. I'm gonna be all worst
enemy that day. I love some more specific When guys
(28:00):
that sound most, that sound natural, it's so funny, Like
you know who the funniest is when Dan Patrick does it.
It is the funniest. The latest one I heard Dan
do was when he ran Lamar Jackson's tweets. By the way,
those have so many grammatical errors. It's it's funny because
(28:23):
I get gramatical rors. Man, they're correct. Yeah, there you go,
there you go. Thank you, Q thank you for pointing
that out. All right, fair enough. By the way, we
are brought to you by Discover. At the end of
your first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all the
cash back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously,
ce terms and check it out for yourself at Discover
(28:44):
dot com. Forward slash Match, we're gonna have another edition
of in case you missed it coming up here. You
want to hear it again? No, no, come on, let's
hear it again. Let's hear the Chief's kingdom when the
Miami Dolphins come to Arrowhead Stadium this year. Guess what
we're gonna do. Guess what we're gonna do. I hate
to say it, man, I hate to throw up the
(29:05):
peace side against y'all. I hate to do it. But
guess what. I'm gonna be y'all worst enemy that day.
I'm gonna be y'all worst enemy that day. Wait, so
are you repeating it or is he repeating in the text.
I'm just I'm just reading the quote. I know I'm
saying like so he repeated like a couple of things
in there a couple of times. Yes, he repeated them.
(29:27):
I read quote for quote right there. That was everywhere
dropping I was dropping bars what I was doing. Yeah.
So be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
(29:47):
and Jonas Knox week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific. Hey, it's me Rob Parker. Check out my
weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker, twenty two minutes of
piping hot baseball talk, featuring the biggest name to newsmakers
in the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the Eyecast.
(30:09):
We've got all the basis cover. New episodes drop every Thursday,
So do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the
Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeart Radio app or
wherever you get your podcast. So Cam Newton would like
to get back in the NFL, and obviously former MVP
in the league had a great run, but he hasn't.
(30:31):
He wasn't in the league last year and it's been
kind of a downward trend for Cam Newton over the
past couple of years. He showed up at Auburn's pro
day wanted to be show everybody you could still make
some throws. Can we pause before we get to like
what he said recently? Yeah, I'm more curious, like what
the consensus is, Like, do you guys think that it's
(30:51):
more him just not wanting to take on a role
where he's gonna be designated as a backup and maybe
the money's not right, or do you think it's it's maybe.
I mean one of the things that I think Cam
does is he pumps out. I think the videos are sweet.
He puts out a lot of good content, whether it's
like an interview or if he's working out. But there's
(31:13):
also a lot of teams that we've seen this before
where like when you're not the guy, teams don't want
the backup to be doing that, Like they just want
you to be like a shadow, you know, they want
you to be a shadow of the guy who is
the guy until it's your turn to play and then
you can take over. But like, do you think it's
more that or do you think it's just maybe more
(31:34):
Cam and him not wanting to take a discount or
take a role that's or he's not the starter, especially
for being an MVP. I think it's more that. I
think the loudest guy in the room can't be the
guy who's not playing. You know, it's like the buddy
who's not going to fight, but he's talking, he's running
his mouth, and Cam's Cam's loud, not meaning you know,
in an actual literal, literal way that well, no, just
(31:57):
if he goes and back accept a quarterback, a lot
of the conversation is going to be about the former
MVP who's backing you up. I just think that some
guys just aren't good fits for that. But that doesn't
always equate like a former MVPs or backup. That's a
problem that doesn't always well. Tim Tim Tebow's a backup.
Tim Tebow's a backup. A terrible idea. I think Colin
(32:21):
Kaepernick is a backup. Terrible idea. I think, Well, here's
the here's the truth. It's a fine line. Because I've
said this before. There's some guys who are great backups.
You don't know why, because they don't actually want to play, Like,
they don't actually want to get in the game and play.
Wait what, They just want to sit there, hold a
clipboard and make a lot of money and then they
(32:43):
want to keep pumping up the guy who started. I
swear to God, like this is the case. You will
find some guys who they don't want to play. When
they do want to play, they want to do in
the preseason because they know they're gonna go in there
a bunch of backups and they're gonna be able to
dice it up, put up a bunch of stats, put
on some good tape, and then still look the part.
I mean, there's Colln's guys you've seen that have done that,
that have hung on for a long time, buddying up
(33:07):
to the starter. It's just the reality when there's when
there's a solidified starter on a roster, he doesn't want
some a hole coming in and every single day challenging him.
He doesn't want that. He doesn't want a distraction. He
doesn't he's not trying to compete with some dude on
the roster. He's competing for a super Bowl. He's he's
(33:28):
focused on everything else, So he doesn't need a distraction
or someone who's not helping him prepare or helping or
doing the things that he needs them to do. And
so there's plenty of guys who would do that. It's
like some of the names you just gave, like Tim Tebow,
super competitive guy. He wants to play, he wants a shot.
That's how he always was. Same thing with Cam Newton.
(33:49):
He's MVP, he's been to a super Bowl. You know.
I mean, I'm sure I can guarantee you. And he
said it publicly. He knows he's better than some of
the other guys who are probably starting in today's game,
and he's probably not wrong. But other teams don't see
it the same way, and so there's there's a fine
line to this, and organizations know it too, like they
(34:10):
don't want to bring a guy in there who's gonna
bring down the mood because he's not playing. You know,
they want a guy who sits in there and it's
gonna be you know, quiet, but but speak up with
something one's spoken upon and able to, you know, help
give them some help with some of their experience and
things they've seen. But but taking on a much different role.
But that's just the truth of the man. I mean,
what coach or organization would want a player on their
(34:34):
team that doesn't think they're better than the person that's
in front of him. I mean, that would be the
first thing that you would would would throw out there.
But then the idea of it is, it's those names
that you name, Jonas all Right, Kaepernick, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow.
It's the presence that's what makes saying I'm I'm better
(34:56):
than these starters out here. That's what makes it. It
takes the stakes very high by the way, you like
how I threw Tebow in there so I couldn't they
couldn't come after me, you know what I mean, we
truly have made this kind of like a deal, like
you know that has become a deal anyway I mean
it you did throw Tim Tebow in their bed. I
(35:18):
mean clear sailing from here. I'm good, but I could
have went down a road that would have been a
no go down that road. No, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm gonna stay focused on my point. The
point is is that those guys are a presence media wise,
you know, like outside of just being dominant presence, where
(35:41):
guys are going to be followers to them, not just
teammates to them, They're going to be followers all three
of them. I'm going to follow Cam Newton. I am
a follower of Tim Tebow. I am a follower of
Colin Kaepernick. So now you're creating an unnecessary risk of sorts.
(36:03):
It's a risk by by dividing your locker room because
it's a guarantee at some point your starter is going
to have a poor game. He's gonna have a poor showing.
It's guarantee, like it just it happens. The moment you
have a poor showing, you know what everybody's gonna do.
They're gonna be looking like, why ain't what? Why ain't
Cam playing? Yo? Yo? What's up? What Tim? Why isn't
(36:25):
Tim Tebow playing? Why? Why they up? Against him, Oh,
we know why they're up against Cap like, man, come on, Cap,
like they need to play cat. And then once that starts,
it's over. It's over because now you're looking at your
starter like, come on, dog like it really like everybody's
starting to talk. Everybody's looking at each other, and then
(36:46):
now your fans are doing it, and now your media
is doing it, and now you have a mess. Isn't
that kind of if you just think about that, isn't
that kind of odd that in the one place in
the NFL where you don't want to have of a
really really really good player is at backup quarterback, Like
(37:06):
that's it's almost like the one place where you you
don't want to you don't want anybody to feel threatened,
and it's at that one place because it would cause
that sort of an issue like that. It's just kind
of odd how that works because everywhere else it feels
like there's competition. And Brady's talked about this before, like
why did they why did they go on the cheap,
so to speak so much with the backup quarterback? Why
wouldn't you want to bring in somebody or you know,
(37:28):
the three quarterback rule and all this It's like from
starter from starter to backup is such a drop off
for so many places. I lived that my rookie year.
Brett Johnson was our starter. Jeff George was our backup.
Howitzer right now, yeah, yeah, both commented about the backup.
(37:54):
Think about that, and you're right that man's arm was crazy.
Room like, I mean, here's the point. Brad Johnson was
a dope starter and went on to win a super
Bowl the very next year. So it's it's kind of
like when you have that going on in the locker room,
(38:18):
you want to know what happened. It's like, man, I'm
cool with Brad. We were here with Brad. We're the
old guard. Like there's a new owner. He's bringing in
his new people. Died, I died this, that and other
guys that have been a part of this team making
it to the playoffs, doing pretty well, trending in the
right direction. They're getting they're getting unseated, they're they're losing
their jobs to the guys that the new owner wants
(38:39):
to be a part of that that they want them
to play. And and now you bring in Jeff George.
We're we're in practices, we're in OTA's and clearly, Jeff
George's arm is better than Brad Johnson's clearly, and but
but Brad Johnson is the guy, right and the first
(39:03):
sign of any type of trouble that Norv had, he
had to put the guy that the owner won it
on the team. He had to put him in the game.
It was not the right decision because while Jeff George's
arm was super dope, and I love Jeff George, I
like a lot of people didn't like him. I thought
Jeff was cool. He was always cool to me. But
(39:25):
the moment you put Jeff George in, you lost half
of that locker room and you took away really the
leadership value that Brad Johnson had established, Like, you took
it away. And so when you have a talented backup
that's as talented, if not better than your starter, you
(39:49):
are taking a serious I don't even know if it's
necessary risk. You are taking a serious risk by having
that type of at high on your bench behind as
a backup. Like that's just even if they were the
most humble dude in the world, even if they were
like just because Tim Tebow is a humble dude. I mean,
(40:12):
so if you're talking about they're loud and this and that. What.
Maybe the guy isn't loud, but if his game is loud,
if his game is good, if he's got a game,
you're putting yourself in in danger having that type of
guys your backup. I think people can misconstrue um like
actions and words. Right, there's guys who are verbally loud,
(40:32):
and there's guys whose actions create noise, and that's those
are both things that again, an organization doesn't want, you know,
they don't want that out of their backup. Again, they
want to be a shout out. They want to be
like Peter Pan's shout out he's gonna fall, He's gonna fall.
To start around that, that's it, and be able to
go in there and be serviceable. But Jonah said, I
didn't mean to um distract from comments conversation because it's
(40:57):
it's it's an it's interesting the teams that he laid
out that he'd be willing to back up, or the
quarterbacks if you wanted to back up. So, according to
Cam Newton, the list of quarterbacks that he would be
willing to back up our Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, justin
fields to a Tugabyloa, Malik Willis, Jalen Hurts, Aaron Rodgers,
(41:19):
Josh Allen and Sam Howell and including the rookie I mean,
I mean not every last one of them is all black.
I mean, I don't have the greatest TV in the world,
but Josh Allen doesn't parody or Sam Howe. But but
(41:40):
but there is uh. He did list, you know, some
of the rookies coming into the NFL, quarterback Cam Newton,
the rookies that he would be willing to back up CJ. Stroud,
Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson Black a little bit everything Black, Brady,
I mean, right on, A Will Levis. Let me tell
(42:03):
you something. They're gonna be rioting in Lexington. If Will
Levis's name is not popping here, he's too jacked up
to be to be good at quarterback, mind you. One
of the most jacked up, the biggest Adonis that I've
ever seen and played against, is Cam Newton. Oh my gosh.
No one said that about Cam Newton when he came out,
But apparently Will Levis is too jacked up. I mean,
(42:25):
Cam's won an MVP, He's one of the NFC Conference
He's won a lot of games, played, a lot of
good football, but apparently you know, jacked up. I just
that whole thing, the whole narrative, man. And you know,
it's funny like it comes from agents. It comes from
other players agents trying to knock down other guys so
their guy can shine, which is like so high school gossipy,
(42:50):
like clicky, just immature and stupid. You know, like there's
enough of an opportunity for all these guys to get drafted.
You don't need to bad mouth other guys and make
stuff up that other teams said. And it's just I
hate that narrative. I do. It's kind of a if
he's looking if he really wants back in the NFL
that bad, why eliminate the opportunities else thirds of the league? Yeah,
(43:13):
it's like to me, I just feel like he's backing
up Milik Willis, so he wants to be third string
in Tennessee. Yeah, I mean Belik Willis at the starter there.
I mean it's is that how that works? Yeah? All
the backup to the backup for the backup in Tennessee.
Appa a lot of but it did seem like there
(43:35):
was a theme there. I don't know for for some
of those, as Labar pointed out, wouldn't be clear. Labar
pointed that I hope, I hope he does get an
opportunity to get back. I love Cam Newton first off,
and by the way, he is one of the better
thirty two quarterbacks right like bottom line, he is. I
know his game might not be the same as what
it used to be, you know, because he's not as
young and maybe not quite as as mobile as he
(43:56):
used to be, But the reality is he's right. He
he probably is better than some of the guys out
there playing, and I hope someone gives him opportunity, or
I hope at least he takes the opportunity to take
something that you know is maybe against what he wants,
but to help him have an opportunity to improve himself
and prove himself right. Fox Sports Radio has the best
(44:17):
sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our
shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.
Search FSR to listen live.
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.