April 27, 2023 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys get geared up for the NFL Draft. It sounds like Aaron Rodgers is committed to making the Jets title contenders for multiple seasons. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB, Albert Breer addresses the biggest rumors heading into the NFL Draft including what the Texans are planning for No. 2, who’s targeting Will Levis and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Arings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox
on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy Draft Day. Come on, aren't you guys fired up
for the draft?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
We are going to pop up at us somewhere, you know,
and just start making draft picks for someone.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I've still never seen that movie either. I've heard it.
I got bad reviews.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
People asking them always like, well I lived it, so
like what do I watch? Kevin Costner actually a general
manager for the Browns.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Don't you guys look back on today and it doesn't
bring up good memories though, Like, like that's got to
be awesome, just hearing your name called, and especially in
the first round, like a couple of the elites, just
hanging out doing a radio show with a couple of
the elites in the football world.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Hey, Jonas, what's it like not having having a kid?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Do you know what it's like not having a kid anymore?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean? Do you have a kid? Remember what life
was like? Do you were remember what life was like
without a kid?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:02):
All right, but do you do you are? You're difficult.
The point is that you don't don't It's like you
don't know what it's like to not have it, you
know what I mean, you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
Kind of like it's like like now that it's happened,
and it's happened so long ago, it's more or less
kind of like, you know, it feels like, yeah, it's
like first round, second round under out of it's like
it happened, So I don't know what it would feel
like for it not to happen. So it's kind of
like I'm excited for all of the people that are
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going to realize their dreams, but as it applies to me,
it's it's just I don't. I don't apply it to me.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do you think you guys appreciated it in the moment
as much as maybe you do now look.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
All yeah in the moment, Hell yeah, in the moment
because I didn't know. You didn't know what it was
going to feel like to be a draft pick, you know,
So now you know, and so that's kind of you know,
it's it's like I can't I don't know what it's
it's like to not be that draft pick. And it's
kind of weird to say it because honestly, I don't
feel like I don't feel like I don't feel like
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it defined you in a weird way, like I feel
like there's so many more things in your life that
defines you and and it's a great accomplishment, But I don't.
I don't walk around.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I don't. I don't know. It's strange.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
I don't walk around like, yeah, I was the number
two overall draft pick, like it's not, that's not I
don't know, it doesn't. It doesn't impact me that way.
But but in the moment it represented something as as
a young person, I aspire to be the best I
could be playing playing the game of football. And and
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you know, for so many people, the story is is
always kind of the same, like that's your way of
making it right. So that's your way of making it.
And that's what that represented. And I was actually good
enough to make that happen. I kind of internalized it
as I can do anything, you know, Like I didn't
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internalize it as I made it to the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I'm going to make a whole lot of money.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I'm going to do all of these things which I did,
but I internalized it as if the percentages of people
who are able to be good enough to not only
make it out of high school and into college, but
navigate college successfully to be in a position where you
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have an employer that is going to bid for your services,
then what else in life can you not achieve? And
that was kind of like, I don't know, that's kind
of how my mother and father raised me, but I
just always felt like that was a big feather in
my hat in terms of knowing that whatever it is
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that you aspired do whatever you put your mind to doing,
if you do it and you do it all your might,
and you do it all your belief, you're going to
get the results that come with it. Something good is
going to happen. You know, whether it's number two overall
in the draft or not, something good is going to
happen from from that hard work and that dedication and
that belief of what you do.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm a pretty picky guy. I refuse to work with
anybody other than first round draft picks. So I don't
know if you guys know that or not. Yeah, that's
just that's just.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The way that I'm sure it's.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Easier you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Don't know that we have as big of a chip
on our shoulders as guys that got drafted.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
In different rounds. There you go, Yeah, j he's got
a hell of a chip on.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well if he went in the seventh round, right, I.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Don't know he he I don't know the way he talked.
You know, you think that he was drafted free agent,
you know, don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But he made a Pro Bowl, get a great career.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He had an That's probably why he was so good.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Here's the reality a lot of young men today.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It starts this process of them getting the chance to
live out their dream and play as sport professionally.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think the thing that blows my mind is the
fact that you get to.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Play your sport and you get paid for it. Like
that was one of the things that was so hard
for me to wrap my mind around and just being
that lucky to have the opportunity. You know, my dad
worked his ass off all you know, through my childhood
growing up, every you know day I knew him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, he was always working so hard.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
My mom the same thing, raising us and doing you know,
different jobs throughout the course of my childhood. So it's
a tremendous day. It's not just for the athletes. It's
for the parents, it's for the coach, it's for them. Really,
it's whatever figure, whoever else is involved, that's that's who
it's it's for as well all the other people who
sacrificed to allow that that player to get to that point.
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And look for the fans, Like, the hard thing about
this is, you know, obviously every single one of these players.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Getting drafted has every intention to have a Hall of
Fame career. Doesn't work out like that for everyone, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't know how many people saw the interview of
Jannica Aenacumpo after the game against the Heat, but.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
He had a really really.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Reflective, I guess response to a question about the season,
if it was a failure and everything else, And I
thought that that was something that more people should listen
to to try to relate to it. They probably never
will or can't, but there's at least some perspective there
that kind of relates to this as it's a it's
a it's a dream coming true, Like getting drafted is
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literally a dream coming true for the athlete, for all
involved to help that person get to that point.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So it's it's a special day, it's a fun day.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It's the craziest crap you've ever met imagined, Like what
happens today is like any other job opportunity. There's no
one else that can relate to this, where you have
no say whatsoever and where you end up going to
go work and try to live.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Out your dream. It's pretty unique in that sense.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah, yet your tax bracket is freaking boss. No matter
what market you're going to, that employer is paying you
notch dollar.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That's why you get paid.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
They say you get paid with a kings ransom to
play a child's game.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, speaking of a king's ransom, it's gonna take
that if you want to make any money on Bryce Young.
Because the betting odds have now shifted him being the
number one overall pick. We're looking at a minus two thousand,
so a twenty to one on DraftKings right now, So
all the all the momentum for will Levis appears to
have died down. He's back up to eight to one.
So apparently an anonymous Reddit post was not enough to
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convince the Carolina Panthers to take Bryce young overalls.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
It's unfortunately, quite possibly the greatest swing of odds off
the most the least credible information we've ever seen. I mean,
in all seriousness, have we ever seen odds move more
than that off of a Reddit post? I mean, someone
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tell me where odds have swayed more based off something
so insignificant, and now they've almost gone right back to
where they were, but close to it.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I would be interested to see did the value of
Reddit go up.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's just kind of short start to be able to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But the problem is because so many people are new
to the gambling world and they're getting involved. Like you
hear a lot of like longtime gamblers or people that
run sports books or the you know, the guys that
are the experts when it comes to this, and they
talk about how they've just kind of muddied the waters.
Like it's now you can't really trust a lot of
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the information. It's almost more difficult now. Like you would think, oh,
there's a lot of suckers out there who would take
your money, and there is some of that, but it's
also skewed the way some of these places are operated.
You still have the old school spots in Vegas that
are done, you know, the old way, and done the
same way they've always done. But yeah, a Reddit post
basically changed the odds. From a quarterback who we were
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hearing for the longest time, Albert Bruce coming up an
hour two. He told us last week that he couldn't
find anybody who liked Will Levice. He had a Reddit
post had him going number one overall and completely changed
the odds. So just the smoke screens and the BS
that comes out at this time of year is amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, let me get my man Pete Prisco some love,
because he said from the onslaught that Will Levis is
his favorite quarterback in this draft class. He feels like
he's being victimized like Josh Allen and talking about the
accuracy and also their stuff. So he he did a
watch the team's Domock draft and he had him right
there up at number one overall. So he's one that
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if Levis goes higher than people are anticipating tonight, someone
give Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He's been saying that now for weeks.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Pete, double p.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
By the way, Double Pe, and we're gonna have a
conversation later on about about face timing, but double P
who was harassed by Brady Quinn to answer a FaceTime call.
When he finally answered his face time, he didn't have
a shirt on.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, it just didn't dead like an old man.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Hang it out.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So there there's the odds. By the way this seems
because I think we talked was it yesterday or the
day before? We did our over unders on Jalen Carter,
and I think the over under was him at six
and a half. A lot of money has come in
on him at number five with the Seattle Seahawks, which.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's hard to pass him up.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
John Snyder loves those defensive defensive players. And when you
get a surefire guy like that to come in and
make his impact. You think about when they had success
or the Legion of Legion of Boom. It was that
pass rush that that d line.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know, man, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And Pete Carroll seems like the type of coach that
can handle all the stuff in the background, all the
you know, the the concerns places like that, things that
we've heard about Jed Carter.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
That is the most unique locker room environment that I'd
ever been a part of where you know, Pete really
focuses the entire NFL process, and you learn it when
you're in the getting ready to get drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Is what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, you can't do with character, flaws, intelligence, something everything's
wrong with you, right. It's like everyone's nick pecks at you,
Pete Carroll. You know, they're like, oh, he brings this
college style to the NFL game. It's not college style.
All he's all he does is say, hey, these are
the things you're really good at. I want you to
focus on those things and continue to be great. We're
gonna put you in positions to win doing that. And
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he allows you to be who you are and not
try to make you something that you're not. And I
think it's one of the reasons why he's been so successful.
It's one of the reasons why some players love playing
for him. I mean, I found it incredibly refreshing to
be there for an entire offseason after.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
What I endured the year before.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And it's hard to say that because not to play
against that dude all through college and I hated him
when he was at USC. But now you see why
guys loved playing for him and they were so successful.
It's because the mindset that he puts his players in,
and I think Jayalen Carter would do really well out
in Seattle in that environment, with that coaching staff, at
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the resource that they provide their players. It's second to none.
That organization is a special, special place.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And when you go from a playoff team the year
before to getting arguably the best player in the draft
the next year, things have come up.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Two first round picks, Yeah, like they could still People
are like, oh, they have to get a quarterback. Like, no,
they could still get one if one falls to them
in that spot. They could have Geno there for a
year and then have this guy be his understudy for
a year then take over.
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Speaker 2 (13:10):
So it was the debut of the Aaron Rodgers experience
with the New York Jets. A Rodger met with the
media yesterday. He had everybody with the Jets in the
front office, Woody Johnson, the owner Robert Sala, everybody there
in attendance as he met with the media yesterday and
his introductory press conference, and amongst several of the items
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that Rogers talked about, it was his excitement to be
in New York and also what the future could look
like with the Jets, and.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
The reason I take care of myself is to allow
myself to continue to play into my forties. And had
always dreamt about being a starter at forty oh term
forty in December of this year, but I'm going to
be here for the foreseeable future. I think it's important. Obviously,
I know the scheme that Hack's putting in. There's some tweaks,
but I want to get to know the guys and
be around the facility. I think I can just fit
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in for quickly. I'm not here to be a savior
of any kind. I'm just here to be for the
best quarterback I could be, to lead authentically and to
inspire the guys around me to raise their level of play.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So I'm talking about I'm in Come on, Aaron Rodgers
with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Relax, They're probably they're probably going to win.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean this team is in a
position now where I know Bill's Maffield will get upset
about it, and they probably want to see the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Do it first. Go back to last year, didn't they
split with the Bills?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I believe so.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, And you've got a team now that it's much
better because of their quarterback play, light years better because
of their quarterback player with Aaron Rodgers. So they're in
a different stratosphere right now in regards to how they
should be feeling and thinking about this upcoming season because
Aaron Rodgers comes in and immediately solves all of those
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potential issues that you had. I'll go a step further
and saying he's not a better team. The Jets roster
is a better roster than what the Packers had and
he's so he's on a better team and they're gonna
even though they're in a tougher conference and in a
tougher division. I still think they are to the top
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or right out there at the top of the S East,
if not, you know, tied with the Buffalo Bills for
odds to win the division in my mind, and so
I give them every benefit of the doubt of not
only making the playoffs, but making a run and I
love the fact that I think initially when he was
asked about, you know, past this year, he was noncommittal, which,
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you know, given his contract situation, I think the Jets
are going to own them about a hundred million.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Over the next two years.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You know, you you kind of want to be noncommittal
because you don't know how things are going to restructure.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And at this point in his career, this is his
leverage point.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And I don't know that he wants to jump to
another team after this and pull like a farv then
with the Minnesota Vikings. You know, maybe I'm wrong, but
I think you use that as your leverage point as
you get towards the end of your career to say
to a team, look, i'll come back, but you know,
go to make it financially worth my while, and you
figure out what that number is as you work through
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this kind of first year. But he later on said
he's not just you know, here for a one year thing,
which I think should give Jets fans a lot of hope,
a lot of optimism for this not just being a
one year flash in the pan thing. This could be
two three years of really really fun, good football.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
From the new York Jets. You know what I find
to be interesting. And I know it's like, it's like,
why is this even relevant? But I think it's relevant
that Aaron Rodgers is he used to inclement weather conditions.
I think that plays like playing in New York, you
realize very quickly that the weather can play a major
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role in the success of the team. And and so
you're not only bringing in a proven quarterback that is
tremendous and what he brings to the table skill set wise,
he's he's played in worse weather conditions for his entire
pro career. And so when you you add that, and
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I know you might you we could look at, you know,
the media aspect of it. I think he's that's a
foregone conclusion that no matter how bad it gets with
the New York media, I think Aaron Rodgers is the
type of personality that won't get rattled by that media.
It won't bother him to be on the tabloids, and
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I think that he'll always have a response that will
be fitting for who Aaron Rodgers is and what we've
come to know. I think that could be a tremendous positive. Obviously,
if you're winning, that's a tremendous positive. If you're losing,
it could run, it could run short. I mean, it
could get it could get interesting with the way the
media is there. But I think he's the perfect type
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of person to be able to handle that. But I
just think in looking at just purely on the field,
what he's going to be able to do. You take
the elements of his familiarity of the play caller, you
take the personnel groupings. The only thing that I would
say is if you were bringing him from somewhere like
Miami or from California or something to that effect, or Texas.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You know you're going to wonder and you're going to.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Ask yourself is he able to acclimate to the climate
conditions that he's going to be subjected to. And I
just think that if you're looking at any of the
concerns that could be there, if the only concern, the
only true major concern, is his motivation to play for
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how long is he going to play?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
What is he thinking in terms of amount of time?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
If that's the only concern that you have coming into this,
you gotta believe that even if it's just for one season,
this one season is going to be a pretty freaking
interesting season for that Jets team.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I also think, like the FARV comp, when Farv
got to the Jets, they were the same age, they
were thirty nine years old. He wasn't playing at the
level that Rogers has been playing at and he was
a little banged up last year, but you know, back
to back MVP seasons. Rogers strikes me as a type
of guy who he's not making this move just for
the one year just to say he did it. He
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seems really really motivated to want to show like, Okay,
I mean, you guys, you know, were ready to move
on for me after I came out of the darkness,
and you know, we can get into that stuff later on.
As far as their communication and all that. I just
I never looked at this and thought, all right, this
is a one and done, Like this is a guy
who keeps himself in good shape, as he pointed out,
and he's going to go there for multiple years because
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I think he understands it's tough to go to a
new place and win right away, but at least give
him a couple of years and I think they're gonna
have a ton of success.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think he's going to give them at least three
wins that they didn't have last year. At least that
gets them to the ten. I mean, we don't have
the schedule yet. We talked about this yesterday, but that
gets you into the playoffs. Once you get in the playoffs,
to me, experience is huge. You know, you want a
quarterback who's been there before. He understands that it's an
elevated speed of game. Everything is that much, you know,
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greater magnified when you get out there, so you know
all those things, he's going to be very comfortable with,
confident with, and be able to help a lot, help
a lot of the young guys who you know, aren't
aware of all that. He looked like he was energized,
Like it was almost as if, you know, this new
opportunity is kind of like revamped or you know, reinvigorated.
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Maybe his feelings towards the game, you know, of having
a group of people the New York Jets, and and
I'll just go as far as saying this, I don't
know that the timing could have been any better for
Aaron Rodgers or the New York Jets. The Jets have
the longest playoff drought of any of the four major
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sports in the US of any professional team, and so
he comes to them at a time where they have
won a Super Bowl since Super Bowl three, they haven't
been to the playoffs, and what going on thirteen years now,
and you get now a guy who's feels like he's
been wrong. And as you touched on, we can get
into the lack of communication or what happened between him
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and Green Bay, but I think there was a sense
of when they drafted Jordan Love that the clock was started.
And I think every single day it's sat at his
desk in the quarterback room, went tick tick tick tick
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
tick And eventually you know, he won an MVP, won
another MVP. But it probably got exhausting happy to sit
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there and look around on an organization that was waiting
for you, just waiting for the first instance, for you
to stumble and for you to not be able to
play at an MVP level, to go to the y yep,
time to go, time to go. Thanks for everything you
did here, we'd like to move on. And that's I
think the reality that he was living for the past
few years. And you know, at times I'm sure, through
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COVID and everything else. There's other things that came to
light that people tried to focus on, but that weight
was constantly on his shoulders ever since they drafted Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And that's a tough thing to deal with. When you
sit there and have to go.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
To work every day and look at the guy who's
going to be replacing you and they're just waiting for
you to fail.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
They're wait for you to stumble. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Now you get to a place where they're rejoicing. I
mean everyone's there to greet you as soon as you
walk in the door. I mean he had Woody Johnson,
after kind of the awkward introduction, just to introduced Darren
Watchinson sat down and he's got the odor popping back
up out of his seat to go shake his head
after he made a joke. Was supposed to shake a
hand or something. Is in this how this works? I mean,
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that's how excited I think everyone is, and they should be.
The Jets are now relevant in a serious way. It's
not fluff, it's not hype, and whatever the Zach Wilson
hype was last year, this is real and he doesn't
have to worry about looking, you know, looking at a
guy sitting in the room that they're excited about replacing him.
You know, they brought him in because of the guy
they had in the room h they weren't excited about.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And and now they really have a chance of making
a run here.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And also he's a pretty Aaron Rodgers, a pretty calculated
guy as we've seen over the past couple of years.
I don't think he makes this jump unless he's one
hundred percent confident he's ready for it. He's going to
be good, They're going to be good, and everybody's going
to be able to just move. And also with Nathaniel
Hackett being there, I can imagine that just makes his
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transition that much easier. So just seeing all that, I
don't know how this doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
That's the that's the.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Most difficult part of any transition, for for an athlete
and probably even for like someone in business.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right you moved to a different company.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, they've got different acronyms for things, whether it's
within their culture or whether it's their processes, whether it's
just even even the landmarks on their campus or whatever
their headquarters.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You know, you got to learn, like like the language
of how people speak.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean, that's what it is when you're talking about
speaking a different offense when you go to a new team,
like people always are like, oh man, it didn't work out.
The guy's played in three different offenses in three years.
What do you expect. It's like trying to do your
job speaking one day in English, the next day in French,
and then or excuse me, the next year in French,
next year in Spanish. It's hard to be able to
master that unless you've been in that system for a while.
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And so he's going to be able to step in
there right away week you know, day one today, because
he's going to practice with the team and he'll know
all the plays, and more so than that, he'll already
be sitting at the line of scrimming's changing those plays.
And so for a team that had a top five
defense last year and a bottom five you know offense
based on you know, yard or scoring, and you know
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yards was a little bit better than that, he's going
to give a huge boost to a team that I
just I think you have to consider them part of
that kind of Super Bowl contending team. If there's eight
to ten teams you think can win a Super Bowl.
The Jets are definitely not one of them.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
One hundred percent. Yeah, I think so as well too.
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Speaker 2 (26:02):
He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer Big Al.
Happy Draft Day. What the Hell's going on.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, big al thanks for the music too. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Not asked, man, I don't know why anybody want to
put you in a bad mood this early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But hey, at least you'll have an Ohio steak guy
go off the board before a Michigan guy.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah. How many?
Speaker 10 (26:27):
How many Michigan guys have been going the first round tonight?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Probably one?
Speaker 10 (26:30):
If that I mean Mazzie Smith, right maybe maybe right,
right right, And I think we'll have three in the
top half of the first round.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
So no excuses next year, Brady, no.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Excuses, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So, Albert, we got to know the Houston Texans at two.
What are you hearing has to be strong? What's the speculation?
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Yeah, you know, I think this is sort of down to,
you know, a defensive player and a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And I know that sounds simplistic.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I think it's Tyree Wilson versus whichever quarterback. And I'm
not sure exactly which one it is, but you know,
I think at the beginning of this process and when
they started to really drill down on the prospect site,
you know, I've heard Tmiko Ryan sort of advocated for
the idea of taking the detensive player. And if you look,
you know at where he's coming from. And you know
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what they were able to accomplish in San Francisco when
they went up and got a quarterback, it was Trey Lance.
And yet they went to three NFC title games in
the last four years with two quarterbacks not named Trey Lance.
So and then you know when they spent when they spent,
when they spent a tick high on the defensive player
was Nick Bosa. So you know, I think the meeto's
only message. There's just not to force it. And if
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the best player there and the biggest difference makers defensive player,
consider that, and I'm not sure they're settled on it either.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Guys. They've kept a really tight surfer when it comes
to this. And so my guess would be would be
Tyree Wilson or CJ.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Strave will see the night.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
The interesting thing about Tyrie Wilson, not a lot of
people have talked about this, is he's coming off what
I think is a Liz frank injury, isn't he Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah? Which is?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I mean, like I dealt with it. That's a serious deal.
It can impact you and the way you move, you know,
moving forward, But the only other thing that doesn't make
sense to me if Dmiko Ryans is taking that stance
is let's just think about this, because if we're gonna say, well,
they traded up to Tate Trey Lance and they've been
able to have success getting deep into the playoffs without him,
you can't just go well and look, we spent a
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first round pick on Nick Bosa and look who the
results are. First off, you spent a first round pick
on Eric Armstead. You originally had spent a first round
pick on DeForest Buckner. You spent a first round pick
on Nick bos You spent a first round pick on
Javon Kinlaw. I mean you spent first round picks on
every single defensive player that has essentially been on your
d line for the past but five years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Wherever it's been like you can use that strategy, but.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Then you're gonna have to wait another four years of
you accumulating all this defensive talent up front, or you
can go get.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
A quarterback that's gonna help improve your level of play
in a guy like CJ.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Stroud right away. How does that make any actual logical
sense when you think about it.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm with you. Brady.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
And I think part of it too, is like if
you want to come out of this with a quarterback
and an edge rusher, right, I think part of it
is the argument like it might be harder to get
an edge rusher with a twelfth pick or trading up
from the twelfth pick.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Then it would be to get a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
And let's say your guy isn't CJ. Stroud, right, Let's
say it's Anthony Richardson, or let's say it's well Levice. Well,
then maybe you think, you know, with the twelfth pick
you can get that quarterback. That's that's the logic I've.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Heard on it, you know.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
Or if you think the quarterbacks are close, if you
have those three guys ranked close, or two of the
three ranked close, maybe look.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
At it that way.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Now, I'd argue like that when it comes to quarterbacks,
you probably shouldn't get cute with it, you know, like
because there's a good chance if you get cute.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
With it that you're going to wind up losing your guy.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
But you know, I think that's part of the logic here.
And I mean, look, they got two first round picks
next year too. I think we all know about the
quarterbacks that are going to be coming out next year.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
That's part of it.
Speaker 10 (29:55):
And I'm with you on Tyree Wilson's foot, Like, I
think that's a real concern, and I know some teams
have failed him. My understanding is the Texans pass him
on the physical so I think they're okay with it,
but it's at least gonna limit him in the spring
and the summer, and he's gonna you know, again, like
as you just kind of alluded to their Brady, those
foot injuries, especially the Liz Frank can be really tricky
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and they can la.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I can't wear shoes that are like I mean, I've
got to get like wide shoes. Everyone says I look
like quasi moto. I'm embarrassed for sandals. I mean, I'm
telling you people that Liz Frank thing like that'll jack
you up. I mean not only with your foot selection,
but like even your self esteem the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's a miserable injury to go through.
Speaker 10 (30:39):
Yeah, and I think it's certainly something that is inconsideration
like teams that are up there in the top ten,
and I think he goes somewhere between two and eight.
If I had to guess, but it's a consideration for
every single team. And again, like there are teams that
have failed them.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
What's the story your highest so on going into the draft.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
I just think how the I mean, I know it's
the easy one, LeVar, but it's it's how the quarterbacks
come off the board.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
And you know, I think, you know, there's a scenario where.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
And we all talked about the possibility that like, you know,
four come off in the first five picks or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I think, you know, one or two of them could
could have.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
A little longer night, you know, And I just think
part of it is you can poke holes in every
one of them. I think part of it is the
classes coming next year, and if you have some job
security and you're not like one hundred percent sold on.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
These guys, that maybe it makes sense to wait.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
So I think all four of them are going to
go in the first round. I just don't know that
it's gonna be like bang bang bang bang like that.
You know, that'd be one storyline that I think is
gonna be interesting to follow the night, and then the
other one, you know, there's this cliff like so, I
think you've got eight players in the draft. Eight non
quarterbacks that are above everybody else. Right, So you got
the three pass rushers and Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson and
(31:56):
and Jalen Carter, the two corners whether they're spooning Gonzalez,
the two defensive lineman and Paris Johnson, Peter Skoronski and
then Vijon Robinson. And I think what that's done having
that group, and then maybe there's not a big difference
between like the eleventh pick and the fifty first pick
create this cliff.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And so I think those teams like eleven.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Twelve, thirteen, fourteen are both going to be looking at
going up and going down. And I can tell you
you know, the Titans, the Texans, the Patriots, those teams
have all made calls about both going up or going
down basically with the logic being we either want to
get up in that top group or we just don't
think the values there, or we're sitting.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
So we're gonna, We're gonna, let's move back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier. All Right, So, hottest rumor you've
heard of the past twenty four forty eight hours in
the first round of the draft, is what, you know.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
I think like the Will Levis stuff is so all
over the like it's like I feel like he could
really Like a week and a half ago, I thought
he was gonna I thought he was really gonna slide.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
It's all like he was thinking like a stone.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
And then there was a pivot point and then the
Peyton Manning stuff came out, and then he started getting
connected to the Colts, and I just think, like, you know,
Peyton Manning and Jim Mersey, like that connection there.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Like everything that you're hearing on on on Will Levis,
you know, has just been I mean really really crazy,
you know. And and then i'd say with with Anthony Richardson,
it's just.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
This idea that team's higher than you think might really
like him. So like, I just think the intrigue with
those two, I think it's really interesting. And then you know,
I think the the idea that some veteran players could
move like that the Commanders will listen to offers on
Chase Young, not saying they're going to trade him, and
I don't know if they'll getting off but moving him,
but that the Commanders could listen on Chase Young, that
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the Broncos could listen on Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy,
that the Vikings could listen on Dalvin Cook. Like, I
think once we get past the first round, you know,
I and and teams have an idea of like, Okay,
here's what we got with our first round pick.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Here's who we're looking at taking the second and third round.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Maybe you see some movement with some of the veteran players.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
You know, Albert I was gonna ask you about Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He's a guy that from all accounts, I know he's older,
but really had a couple of prolific years at Tennessee.
He is coming off an ACL injury, but we saw
video of him yesterday throwing. It seems like he might
be ready for September. And he's a tremendous young man.
For anyone who had a chance to list do him speak.
Is there a chance a team maybe back getting the
first round something like that would take Hendon Hooker?
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah, you know, I I.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
There's some interesting scenarios there, Brady. Like, I think like
you could see a team kind of at the top
of the second round that maybe didn't get a quarterback,
trading back up into the bottom of the first round.
We've seen that before, of course, happened with you know,
with with with Teddy Bridgewater years ago. You know, so
I could certainly see where, you know, maybe a team
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that doesn't feel comfortable taking one in the top ten,
or maybe a team that missed on one of the top.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Ten, like let's say Indianapolis. Let's say Stroud goes second to.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Say Stroud goes second to Houston, and then let's say
they're not wild about Levis Richards.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
And I'm not saying that's the case. Let's just say
that if that scenario plays out.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Well, the Colts did a lot of work on Hendon Hooker.
They had him in at the very beginning of the
process on a thirty visit, and so they could potentially
be a team that's like looking at the top of
the second round and saying, you know what, let's just
be aggressive, go get our guy, get the fifth year
option on Hendon Hooker, and be done with it. I
really feel like, but if he was healthy and twenty
two years old, he'd probably even mix with these other guys,
(35:44):
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it just it
just feels like the fact that he's a little older.
I believe he turns into twenty. He turns twenty six,
I think in January. Right, So, like, if this year's
a washer, a red shirt year because of the knee,
maybe you're not getting a full year out of him
until you know the year he turns twenty seven. But
quarterbacks play longer now acl injuries aren't what they used
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to be, And so I think, you know, it could
be interesting at the bottom of the first round with him.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Abe and looking at this year's draft, there's always someone
who impacts their their draft status, you know, under the radar.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I thought you meant like the gas mask bog thing.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
This.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
I wanted to stay positive and not take it negative.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But please have that comeback for one more year, please.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Well, since you brought it up and it wasn't who
who who has impacted their draft status positively or negatively?
Has there been any because it seems like it's been
pretty quiet.
Speaker 10 (36:54):
Yeah, So, like I'll give you a couple of names,
you know, and like I think last year, if you
look like last year, I think it I who was
the cleanest was Trent McDuffie, right, Like I remember people
just being allowed by like how he came off in
meetings and the type of kid he was right like,
and so it was like, you are not going to
miss him, this kid, and sure enough he winds up
(37:14):
being a starter for the Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Right.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
So I think that kid this year's.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Devin Weatherspoon from Illinois. It feels to me and Brady
might be familiar with him.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
I don't know if he came across him like during
the season in the Big.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Ten, but just watch.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, so like he he has.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Apparently been a home run in all of his meetings
and just the type of kid where like he's small
and that's question.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
And so you look at.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Yes we need you had such a great street gab,
damn it it came to an just now you're like
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
You have cell phone issues at your house apparently.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
Man, oh no, no, on my sports again. I'm not
in the car, I'm in my ports.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Can you hear?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's better now? Yeah, it's better now?
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Okay, all right, damn it, damn it. Those are three person.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Historical So so no, I say, Devin Witherspoon's like a
kid who checks every single box except for size right like,
and he's done great in his interviews, and I think
he's really really helped himself through the process. I think
the corner from Mississippi State who is freaking tiny, he's
like one hundred and sixty pounds, but he's another one
who's really helped himself, you know. I think Will Levis
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has been I'd say the reviews have been mixed in
his interviews, And I don't know how much Jalen Carter
has helped himself.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Like I I think there are teams.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
That are still enthralled with the talent, and what you
hear coming out of the interviews is they're okay with him,
like they think they can handle him, but you don't
hear like, oh wow, he really turned it around on them.
So like I think, you know, the Seahawks, the Lions,
the Bears, the Eagles, they've all grappled with this, you know,
(39:08):
Like I think the Eagles could potentially go up for him,
but I think they're all sort of kind of trying
to wrap their heads around can we get this kid
in the right path? And I think, like you see
the teams that all those teams like right except for Chicago,
the three others really have like some establishment in their programs.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Right, Like in Seattle, you see like some.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Veteran players in that lock on the Eagles feel like
they could absorb them, having like Jordan Davis and Nikobe
Demon and a bunch of veterans in the locker room Detroit.
Of course, Dan Campbell, it looks like he's really kind
of turned that locker room around, you know. I'd say
with Jalen Carter, it's not that he has really changed
many people's opinions on him in the interviews. It's more okay, like, well,
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we feel all right with this based on the talent
that he brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, Albert, before we let you go, we got
about twenty seconds. Yeah, do you anticipate him and just
you know, off the top of my head just kind
of spitball in here. Do you anticipate there being more
or less than three and a half Ohio State football
players selected in the first round tonight?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I would go under. I think it's gonna be the three. Yeah,
I would go the three. I would just say, I mean,
I think CJ.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
And Jackson and Paris Johnson, I think they all go
in the first half of the first round. If I
had to guess right now, If I guess right now,
and you guys can hold me to this, I'd say, I'll.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Say CJ to the Colts.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
I'll say Paris Johnson of the Raiders. I'll say Jackson
spitted and jig Bit of the Jets.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
What's the way?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
There's no way he falls to fifteen?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I'm I think I think there is the way, Brady.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
I mean, he could go to the Packers at thirteen.
I actually think the packers have their eyes on your note.
The packers have their eyes on your Notre Dame tight end.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Of course they do. Valentine this year.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I mean, you need that security blanket as a quarterback,
especially for Jordan Love.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Notre Dame, Notre Dame sort of tight end you isn't
it off?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Guy?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I think we just got a lot of tight ends.
Though we got we got one.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
We've had every starting tight ends since two thousand and four.
Another has been drafted, every single one. I think we've
had it too. No, not that far back, not that
far back, but but pretty far like don't don't, don't don't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Your last tight ends have been good.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
Yeah, last three you're sicky Jesse James Friar. Move now
we got Britain strange in this one.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
I mean a tight end though or.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
No, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I just want to.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
All of the little shot to the ribs from his
porch as.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
We have shot right.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Davis over here, Albert, we we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier. Always a good time here
on a Thursday. We'll do it again next week.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Happy Draft Day. Come on, aren't you guys fired up
for the draft?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
We are going to pop up at us somewhere, you know,
and just start making draft picks for someone.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I've still never seen that movie either. I've heard it.
I got bad reviews.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
People asking them always like, well I lived it, so
like what do I watch? Kevin Costner actually a general
manager for the Browns.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Don't you guys look back on today and it doesn't
bring up good memories though, Like, like that's got to
be awesome, just hearing your name called, and especially in
the first round, like a couple of the elites, just
hanging out doing a radio show with a couple of
the elites in the football world.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Hey, Jonas, what's it like not having having a kid?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Do you know what it's like not having a kid anymore?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean? Do you have a kid? Remember what life
was like? Do you were remember what life was like
without a kid?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:02):
All right, but do you do you are? You're difficult.
The point is that you don't don't It's like you
don't know what it's like to not have it, you
know what I mean, you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
Kind of like it's like like now that it's happened,
and it's happened so long ago, it's more or less
kind of like, you know, it feels like, yeah, it's
like first round, second round under out of it's like
it happened, So I don't know what it would feel
like for it not to happen. So it's kind of
like I'm excited for all of the people that are
(01:35):
going to realize their dreams, but as it applies to me,
it's it's just I don't. I don't apply it to me.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do you think you guys appreciated it in the moment
as much as maybe you do now look.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
All yeah in the moment, Hell yeah, in the moment
because I didn't know. You didn't know what it was
going to feel like to be a draft pick, you know,
So now you know, and so that's kind of you know,
it's it's like I can't I don't know what it's
it's like to not be that draft pick. And it's
kind of weird to say it because honestly, I don't
feel like I don't feel like I don't feel like
(02:12):
it defined you in a weird way, like I feel
like there's so many more things in your life that
defines you and and it's a great accomplishment, But I don't.
I don't walk around.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I don't. I don't know. It's strange.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
I don't walk around like, yeah, I was the number
two overall draft pick, like it's not, that's not I
don't know, it doesn't. It doesn't impact me that way.
But but in the moment it represented something as as
a young person, I aspire to be the best I
could be playing playing the game of football. And and
(02:48):
you know, for so many people, the story is is
always kind of the same, like that's your way of
making it right. So that's your way of making it.
And that's what that represented. And I was actually good
enough to make that happen. I kind of internalized it
as I can do anything, you know, Like I didn't
(03:10):
internalize it as I made it to the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
I'm going to make a whole lot of money.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I'm going to do all of these things which I did,
but I internalized it as if the percentages of people
who are able to be good enough to not only
make it out of high school and into college, but
navigate college successfully to be in a position where you
(03:37):
have an employer that is going to bid for your services,
then what else in life can you not achieve? And
that was kind of like, I don't know, that's kind
of how my mother and father raised me, but I
just always felt like that was a big feather in
my hat in terms of knowing that whatever it is
(03:58):
that you aspired do whatever you put your mind to doing,
if you do it and you do it all your might,
and you do it all your belief, you're going to
get the results that come with it. Something good is
going to happen. You know, whether it's number two overall
in the draft or not, something good is going to
happen from from that hard work and that dedication and
that belief of what you do.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm a pretty picky guy. I refuse to work with
anybody other than first round draft picks. So I don't
know if you guys know that or not. Yeah, that's
just that's just.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The way that I'm sure it's.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Easier you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Don't know that we have as big of a chip
on our shoulders as guys that got drafted.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
In different rounds. There you go, Yeah, j he's got
a hell of a chip on.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well if he went in the seventh round, right, I.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Don't know he he I don't know the way he talked.
You know, you think that he was drafted free agent,
you know, don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But he made a Pro Bowl, get a great career.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He had an That's probably why he was so good.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Here's the reality a lot of young men today.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It starts this process of them getting the chance to
live out their dream and play as sport professionally.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think the thing that blows my mind is the
fact that you get to.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Play your sport and you get paid for it. Like
that was one of the things that was so hard
for me to wrap my mind around and just being
that lucky to have the opportunity. You know, my dad
worked his ass off all you know, through my childhood
growing up, every you know day I knew him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, he was always working so hard.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
My mom the same thing, raising us and doing you know,
different jobs throughout the course of my childhood. So it's
a tremendous day. It's not just for the athletes. It's
for the parents, it's for the coach, it's for them. Really,
it's whatever figure, whoever else is involved, that's that's who
it's it's for as well all the other people who
sacrificed to allow that that player to get to that point.
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And look for the fans, Like, the hard thing about
this is, you know, obviously every single one of these players.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Getting drafted has every intention to have a Hall of
Fame career. Doesn't work out like that for everyone, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I don't know how many people saw the interview of
Jannica Aenacumpo after the game against the Heat, but.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
He had a really really.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Reflective, I guess response to a question about the season,
if it was a failure and everything else, And I
thought that that was something that more people should listen
to to try to relate to it. They probably never
will or can't, but there's at least some perspective there
that kind of relates to this as it's a it's
a it's a dream coming true, Like getting drafted is
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literally a dream coming true for the athlete, for all
involved to help that person get to that point.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So it's it's a special day, it's a fun day.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It's the craziest crap you've ever met imagined, Like what
happens today is like any other job opportunity. There's no
one else that can relate to this, where you have
no say whatsoever and where you end up going to
go work and try to live.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Out your dream. It's pretty unique in that sense.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah, yet your tax bracket is freaking boss. No matter
what market you're going to, that employer is paying you
notch dollar.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That's why you get paid.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
They say you get paid with a kings ransom to
play a child's game.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, speaking of a king's ransom, it's gonna take
that if you want to make any money on Bryce Young.
Because the betting odds have now shifted him being the
number one overall pick. We're looking at a minus two thousand,
so a twenty to one on DraftKings right now, So
all the all the momentum for will Levis appears to
have died down. He's back up to eight to one.
So apparently an anonymous Reddit post was not enough to
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convince the Carolina Panthers to take Bryce young overalls.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
It's unfortunately, quite possibly the greatest swing of odds off
the most the least credible information we've ever seen. I mean,
in all seriousness, have we ever seen odds move more
than that off of a Reddit post? I mean, someone
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tell me where odds have swayed more based off something
so insignificant, and now they've almost gone right back to
where they were, but close to it.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I would be interested to see did the value of
Reddit go up.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
It's just kind of short start to be able to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But the problem is because so many people are new
to the gambling world and they're getting involved. Like you
hear a lot of like longtime gamblers or people that
run sports books or the you know, the guys that
are the experts when it comes to this, and they
talk about how they've just kind of muddied the waters.
Like it's now you can't really trust a lot of
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the information. It's almost more difficult now. Like you would think, oh,
there's a lot of suckers out there who would take
your money, and there is some of that, but it's
also skewed the way some of these places are operated.
You still have the old school spots in Vegas that
are done, you know, the old way, and done the
same way they've always done. But yeah, a Reddit post
basically changed the odds. From a quarterback who we were
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hearing for the longest time, Albert Bruce coming up an
hour two. He told us last week that he couldn't
find anybody who liked Will Levice. He had a Reddit
post had him going number one overall and completely changed
the odds. So just the smoke screens and the BS
that comes out at this time of year is amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, let me get my man Pete Prisco some love,
because he said from the onslaught that Will Levis is
his favorite quarterback in this draft class. He feels like
he's being victimized like Josh Allen and talking about the
accuracy and also their stuff. So he he did a
watch the team's Domock draft and he had him right
there up at number one overall. So he's one that
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if Levis goes higher than people are anticipating tonight, someone
give Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He's been saying that now for weeks.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Pete, double p.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
By the way, Double Pe, and we're gonna have a
conversation later on about about face timing, but double P
who was harassed by Brady Quinn to answer a FaceTime call.
When he finally answered his face time, he didn't have
a shirt on.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, it just didn't dead like an old man.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Hang it out.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So there there's the odds. By the way this seems
because I think we talked was it yesterday or the
day before? We did our over unders on Jalen Carter,
and I think the over under was him at six
and a half. A lot of money has come in
on him at number five with the Seattle Seahawks, which.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's hard to pass him up.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
John Snyder loves those defensive defensive players. And when you
get a surefire guy like that to come in and
make his impact. You think about when they had success
or the Legion of Legion of Boom. It was that
pass rush that that d line.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know, man, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And Pete Carroll seems like the type of coach that
can handle all the stuff in the background, all the
you know, the the concerns places like that, things that
we've heard about Jed Carter.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
That is the most unique locker room environment that I'd
ever been a part of where you know, Pete really
focuses the entire NFL process, and you learn it when
you're in the getting ready to get drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Is what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, you can't do with character, flaws, intelligence, something everything's
wrong with you, right. It's like everyone's nick pecks at you,
Pete Carroll. You know, they're like, oh, he brings this
college style to the NFL game. It's not college style.
All he's all he does is say, hey, these are
the things you're really good at. I want you to
focus on those things and continue to be great. We're
gonna put you in positions to win doing that. And
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he allows you to be who you are and not
try to make you something that you're not. And I
think it's one of the reasons why he's been so successful.
It's one of the reasons why some players love playing
for him. I mean, I found it incredibly refreshing to
be there for an entire offseason after.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
What I endured the year before.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And it's hard to say that because not to play
against that dude all through college and I hated him
when he was at USC. But now you see why
guys loved playing for him and they were so successful.
It's because the mindset that he puts his players in,
and I think Jayalen Carter would do really well out
in Seattle in that environment, with that coaching staff, at
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the resource that they provide their players. It's second to none.
That organization is a special, special place.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And when you go from a playoff team the year
before to getting arguably the best player in the draft
the next year, things have come up.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Two first round picks, Yeah, like they could still People
are like, oh, they have to get a quarterback. Like, no,
they could still get one if one falls to them
in that spot. They could have Geno there for a
year and then have this guy be his understudy for
a year then take over.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
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Speaker 2 (13:10):
So it was the debut of the Aaron Rodgers experience
with the New York Jets. A Rodger met with the
media yesterday. He had everybody with the Jets in the
front office, Woody Johnson, the owner Robert Sala, everybody there
in attendance as he met with the media yesterday and
his introductory press conference, and amongst several of the items
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that Rogers talked about, it was his excitement to be
in New York and also what the future could look
like with the Jets, and.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
The reason I take care of myself is to allow
myself to continue to play into my forties. And had
always dreamt about being a starter at forty oh term
forty in December of this year, but I'm going to
be here for the foreseeable future. I think it's important. Obviously,
I know the scheme that Hack's putting in. There's some tweaks,
but I want to get to know the guys and
be around the facility. I think I can just fit
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in for quickly. I'm not here to be a savior
of any kind. I'm just here to be for the
best quarterback I could be, to lead authentically and to
inspire the guys around me to raise their level of play.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So I'm talking about I'm in Come on, Aaron Rodgers
with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Relax, They're probably they're probably going to win.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean this team is in a
position now where I know Bill's Maffield will get upset
about it, and they probably want to see the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Do it first. Go back to last year, didn't they
split with the Bills?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I believe so.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, And you've got a team now that it's much
better because of their quarterback play, light years better because
of their quarterback player with Aaron Rodgers. So they're in
a different stratosphere right now in regards to how they
should be feeling and thinking about this upcoming season because
Aaron Rodgers comes in and immediately solves all of those
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potential issues that you had. I'll go a step further
and saying he's not a better team. The Jets roster
is a better roster than what the Packers had and
he's so he's on a better team and they're gonna
even though they're in a tougher conference and in a
tougher division. I still think they are to the top
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or right out there at the top of the S East,
if not, you know, tied with the Buffalo Bills for
odds to win the division in my mind, and so
I give them every benefit of the doubt of not
only making the playoffs, but making a run and I
love the fact that I think initially when he was
asked about, you know, past this year, he was noncommittal, which,
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you know, given his contract situation, I think the Jets
are going to own them about a hundred million.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Over the next two years.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You know, you you kind of want to be noncommittal
because you don't know how things are going to restructure.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And at this point in his career, this is his
leverage point.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And I don't know that he wants to jump to
another team after this and pull like a farv then
with the Minnesota Vikings. You know, maybe I'm wrong, but
I think you use that as your leverage point as
you get towards the end of your career to say
to a team, look, i'll come back, but you know,
go to make it financially worth my while, and you
figure out what that number is as you work through
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this kind of first year. But he later on said
he's not just you know, here for a one year thing,
which I think should give Jets fans a lot of hope,
a lot of optimism for this not just being a
one year flash in the pan thing. This could be
two three years of really really fun, good football.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
From the new York Jets. You know what I find
to be interesting. And I know it's like, it's like,
why is this even relevant? But I think it's relevant
that Aaron Rodgers is he used to inclement weather conditions.
I think that plays like playing in New York, you
realize very quickly that the weather can play a major
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role in the success of the team. And and so
you're not only bringing in a proven quarterback that is
tremendous and what he brings to the table skill set wise,
he's he's played in worse weather conditions for his entire
pro career. And so when you you add that, and
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I know you might you we could look at, you know,
the media aspect of it. I think he's that's a
foregone conclusion that no matter how bad it gets with
the New York media, I think Aaron Rodgers is the
type of personality that won't get rattled by that media.
It won't bother him to be on the tabloids, and
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I think that he'll always have a response that will
be fitting for who Aaron Rodgers is and what we've
come to know. I think that could be a tremendous positive. Obviously,
if you're winning, that's a tremendous positive. If you're losing,
it could run, it could run short. I mean, it
could get it could get interesting with the way the
media is there. But I think he's the perfect type
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of person to be able to handle that. But I
just think in looking at just purely on the field,
what he's going to be able to do. You take
the elements of his familiarity of the play caller, you
take the personnel groupings. The only thing that I would
say is if you were bringing him from somewhere like
Miami or from California or something to that effect, or Texas.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You know you're going to wonder and you're going to.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Ask yourself is he able to acclimate to the climate
conditions that he's going to be subjected to. And I
just think that if you're looking at any of the
concerns that could be there, if the only concern, the
only true major concern, is his motivation to play for
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how long is he going to play?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
What is he thinking in terms of amount of time?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
If that's the only concern that you have coming into this,
you gotta believe that even if it's just for one season,
this one season is going to be a pretty freaking
interesting season for that Jets team.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I also think, like the FARV comp, when Farv
got to the Jets, they were the same age, they
were thirty nine years old. He wasn't playing at the
level that Rogers has been playing at and he was
a little banged up last year, but you know, back
to back MVP seasons. Rogers strikes me as a type
of guy who he's not making this move just for
the one year just to say he did it. He
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seems really really motivated to want to show like, Okay,
I mean, you guys, you know, were ready to move
on for me after I came out of the darkness,
and you know, we can get into that stuff later on.
As far as their communication and all that. I just
I never looked at this and thought, all right, this
is a one and done, Like this is a guy
who keeps himself in good shape, as he pointed out,
and he's going to go there for multiple years because
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I think he understands it's tough to go to a
new place and win right away, but at least give
him a couple of years and I think they're gonna
have a ton of success.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think he's going to give them at least three
wins that they didn't have last year. At least that
gets them to the ten. I mean, we don't have
the schedule yet. We talked about this yesterday, but that
gets you into the playoffs. Once you get in the playoffs,
to me, experience is huge. You know, you want a
quarterback who's been there before. He understands that it's an
elevated speed of game. Everything is that much, you know,
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greater magnified when you get out there, so you know
all those things, he's going to be very comfortable with,
confident with, and be able to help a lot, help
a lot of the young guys who you know, aren't
aware of all that. He looked like he was energized,
Like it was almost as if, you know, this new
opportunity is kind of like revamped or you know, reinvigorated.
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Maybe his feelings towards the game, you know, of having
a group of people the New York Jets, and and
I'll just go as far as saying this, I don't
know that the timing could have been any better for
Aaron Rodgers or the New York Jets. The Jets have
the longest playoff drought of any of the four major
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sports in the US of any professional team, and so
he comes to them at a time where they have
won a Super Bowl since Super Bowl three, they haven't
been to the playoffs, and what going on thirteen years now,
and you get now a guy who's feels like he's
been wrong. And as you touched on, we can get
into the lack of communication or what happened between him
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and Green Bay, but I think there was a sense
of when they drafted Jordan Love that the clock was started.
And I think every single day it's sat at his
desk in the quarterback room, went tick tick tick tick
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
tick And eventually you know, he won an MVP, won
another MVP. But it probably got exhausting happy to sit
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there and look around on an organization that was waiting
for you, just waiting for the first instance, for you
to stumble and for you to not be able to
play at an MVP level, to go to the y yep,
time to go, time to go. Thanks for everything you
did here, we'd like to move on. And that's I
think the reality that he was living for the past
few years. And you know, at times I'm sure, through
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COVID and everything else. There's other things that came to
light that people tried to focus on, but that weight
was constantly on his shoulders ever since they drafted Jordan Love.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And that's a tough thing to deal with. When you
sit there and have to go.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
To work every day and look at the guy who's
going to be replacing you and they're just waiting for
you to fail.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
They're wait for you to stumble. That's tough.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Now you get to a place where they're rejoicing. I
mean everyone's there to greet you as soon as you
walk in the door. I mean he had Woody Johnson,
after kind of the awkward introduction, just to introduced Darren
Watchinson sat down and he's got the odor popping back
up out of his seat to go shake his head
after he made a joke. Was supposed to shake a
hand or something. Is in this how this works? I mean,
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that's how excited I think everyone is, and they should be.
The Jets are now relevant in a serious way. It's
not fluff, it's not hype, and whatever the Zach Wilson
hype was last year, this is real and he doesn't
have to worry about looking, you know, looking at a
guy sitting in the room that they're excited about replacing him.
You know, they brought him in because of the guy
they had in the room h they weren't excited about.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And and now they really have a chance of making
a run here.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And also he's a pretty Aaron Rodgers, a pretty calculated
guy as we've seen over the past couple of years.
I don't think he makes this jump unless he's one
hundred percent confident he's ready for it. He's going to
be good, They're going to be good, and everybody's going
to be able to just move. And also with Nathaniel
Hackett being there, I can imagine that just makes his
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transition that much easier. So just seeing all that, I
don't know how this doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
That's the that's the.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Most difficult part of any transition, for for an athlete
and probably even for like someone in business.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right you moved to a different company.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, they've got different acronyms for things, whether it's
within their culture or whether it's their processes, whether it's
just even even the landmarks on their campus or whatever
their headquarters.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You know, you got to learn, like like the language
of how people speak.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean, that's what it is when you're talking about
speaking a different offense when you go to a new team,
like people always are like, oh man, it didn't work out.
The guy's played in three different offenses in three years.
What do you expect. It's like trying to do your
job speaking one day in English, the next day in French,
and then or excuse me, the next year in French,
next year in Spanish. It's hard to be able to
master that unless you've been in that system for a while.
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And so he's going to be able to step in
there right away week you know, day one today, because
he's going to practice with the team and he'll know
all the plays, and more so than that, he'll already
be sitting at the line of scrimming's changing those plays.
And so for a team that had a top five
defense last year and a bottom five you know offense
based on you know, yard or scoring, and you know
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yards was a little bit better than that, he's going
to give a huge boost to a team that I
just I think you have to consider them part of
that kind of Super Bowl contending team. If there's eight
to ten teams you think can win a Super Bowl.
The Jets are definitely not one of them.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
One hundred percent. Yeah, I think so as well too.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
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Speaker 2 (26:02):
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Happy Draft Day. What the Hell's going on.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, big al thanks for the music too. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Not asked, man, I don't know why anybody want to
put you in a bad mood this early in the morning.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But hey, at least you'll have an Ohio steak guy
go off the board before a Michigan guy.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah. How many?
Speaker 10 (26:27):
How many Michigan guys have been going the first round tonight?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Probably one?
Speaker 10 (26:30):
If that I mean Mazzie Smith, right maybe maybe right,
right right, And I think we'll have three in the
top half of the first round.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
So no excuses next year, Brady, no.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Excuses, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So, Albert, we got to know the Houston Texans at two.
What are you hearing has to be strong? What's the speculation?
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Yeah, you know, I think this is sort of down to,
you know, a defensive player and a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And I know that sounds simplistic.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I think it's Tyree Wilson versus whichever quarterback. And I'm
not sure exactly which one it is, but you know,
I think at the beginning of this process and when
they started to really drill down on the prospect site,
you know, I've heard Tmiko Ryan sort of advocated for
the idea of taking the detensive player. And if you look,
you know at where he's coming from. And you know
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what they were able to accomplish in San Francisco when
they went up and got a quarterback, it was Trey Lance.
And yet they went to three NFC title games in
the last four years with two quarterbacks not named Trey Lance.
So and then you know when they spent when they spent,
when they spent a tick high on the defensive player
was Nick Bosa. So you know, I think the meeto's
only message. There's just not to force it. And if
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the best player there and the biggest difference makers defensive player,
consider that, and I'm not sure they're settled on it either.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Guys. They've kept a really tight surfer when it comes
to this. And so my guess would be would be
Tyree Wilson or CJ.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Strave will see the night.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
The interesting thing about Tyrie Wilson, not a lot of
people have talked about this, is he's coming off what
I think is a Liz frank injury, isn't he Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah? Which is?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I mean, like I dealt with it. That's a serious deal.
It can impact you and the way you move, you know,
moving forward, But the only other thing that doesn't make
sense to me if Dmiko Ryans is taking that stance
is let's just think about this, because if we're gonna say, well,
they traded up to Tate Trey Lance and they've been
able to have success getting deep into the playoffs without him,
you can't just go well and look, we spent a
(28:24):
first round pick on Nick Bosa and look who the
results are. First off, you spent a first round pick
on Eric Armstead. You originally had spent a first round
pick on DeForest Buckner. You spent a first round pick
on Nick bos You spent a first round pick on
Javon Kinlaw. I mean you spent first round picks on
every single defensive player that has essentially been on your
d line for the past but five years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Wherever it's been like you can use that strategy, but.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Then you're gonna have to wait another four years of
you accumulating all this defensive talent up front, or you
can go get.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
A quarterback that's gonna help improve your level of play
in a guy like CJ.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Stroud right away. How does that make any actual logical
sense when you think about it.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm with you. Brady.
Speaker 10 (29:01):
And I think part of it too, is like if
you want to come out of this with a quarterback
and an edge rusher, right, I think part of it
is the argument like it might be harder to get
an edge rusher with a twelfth pick or trading up
from the twelfth pick.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Then it would be to get a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
And let's say your guy isn't CJ. Stroud, right, Let's
say it's Anthony Richardson, or let's say it's well Levice. Well,
then maybe you think, you know, with the twelfth pick
you can get that quarterback. That's that's the logic I've.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Heard on it, you know.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
Or if you think the quarterbacks are close, if you
have those three guys ranked close, or two of the
three ranked close, maybe look.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
At it that way.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
Now, I'd argue like that when it comes to quarterbacks,
you probably shouldn't get cute with it, you know, like
because there's a good chance if you get cute.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
With it that you're going to wind up losing your guy.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
But you know, I think that's part of the logic here.
And I mean, look, they got two first round picks
next year too. I think we all know about the
quarterbacks that are going to be coming out next year.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
That's part of it.
Speaker 10 (29:55):
And I'm with you on Tyree Wilson's foot, Like, I
think that's a real concern, and I know some teams
have failed him. My understanding is the Texans pass him
on the physical so I think they're okay with it,
but it's at least gonna limit him in the spring
and the summer, and he's gonna you know, again, like
as you just kind of alluded to their Brady, those
foot injuries, especially the Liz Frank can be really tricky
(30:17):
and they can la.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I can't wear shoes that are like I mean, I've
got to get like wide shoes. Everyone says I look
like quasi moto. I'm embarrassed for sandals. I mean, I'm
telling you people that Liz Frank thing like that'll jack
you up. I mean not only with your foot selection,
but like even your self esteem the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's a miserable injury to go through.
Speaker 10 (30:39):
Yeah, and I think it's certainly something that is inconsideration
like teams that are up there in the top ten,
and I think he goes somewhere between two and eight.
If I had to guess, but it's a consideration for
every single team. And again, like there are teams that
have failed them.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
What's the story your highest so on going into the draft.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
I just think how the I mean, I know it's
the easy one, LeVar, but it's it's how the quarterbacks
come off the board.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
And you know, I think, you know, there's a scenario where.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
And we all talked about the possibility that like, you know,
four come off in the first five picks or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I think, you know, one or two of them could
could have.
Speaker 10 (31:17):
A little longer night, you know, And I just think
part of it is you can poke holes in every
one of them. I think part of it is the
classes coming next year, and if you have some job
security and you're not like one hundred percent sold on.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
These guys, that maybe it makes sense to wait.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
So I think all four of them are going to
go in the first round. I just don't know that
it's gonna be like bang bang bang bang like that.
You know, that'd be one storyline that I think is
gonna be interesting to follow the night, and then the
other one, you know, there's this cliff like so, I
think you've got eight players in the draft. Eight non
quarterbacks that are above everybody else. Right, So you got
the three pass rushers and Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson and
(31:56):
and Jalen Carter, the two corners whether they're spooning Gonzalez,
the two defensive lineman and Paris Johnson, Peter Skoronski and
then Vijon Robinson. And I think what that's done having
that group, and then maybe there's not a big difference
between like the eleventh pick and the fifty first pick
create this cliff.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And so I think those teams like eleven.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Twelve, thirteen, fourteen are both going to be looking at
going up and going down. And I can tell you
you know, the Titans, the Texans, the Patriots, those teams
have all made calls about both going up or going
down basically with the logic being we either want to
get up in that top group or we just don't
think the values there, or we're sitting.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
So we're gonna, We're gonna, let's move back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier. All Right, So, hottest rumor you've
heard of the past twenty four forty eight hours in
the first round of the draft, is what, you know.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
I think like the Will Levis stuff is so all
over the like it's like I feel like he could
really Like a week and a half ago, I thought
he was gonna I thought he was really gonna slide.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
It's all like he was thinking like a stone.
Speaker 10 (33:09):
And then there was a pivot point and then the
Peyton Manning stuff came out, and then he started getting
connected to the Colts, and I just think, like, you know,
Peyton Manning and Jim Mersey, like that connection there.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Like everything that you're hearing on on on Will Levis,
you know, has just been I mean really really crazy,
you know. And and then i'd say with with Anthony Richardson,
it's just.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
This idea that team's higher than you think might really
like him. So like, I just think the intrigue with
those two, I think it's really interesting. And then you know,
I think the the idea that some veteran players could
move like that the Commanders will listen to offers on
Chase Young, not saying they're going to trade him, and
I don't know if they'll getting off but moving him,
but that the Commanders could listen on Chase Young, that
(33:56):
the Broncos could listen on Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy,
that the Vikings could listen on Dalvin Cook. Like, I
think once we get past the first round, you know,
I and and teams have an idea of like, Okay,
here's what we got with our first round pick.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Here's who we're looking at taking the second and third round.
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Maybe you see some movement with some of the veteran players.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
You know, Albert I was gonna ask you about Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He's a guy that from all accounts, I know he's older,
but really had a couple of prolific years at Tennessee.
He is coming off an ACL injury, but we saw
video of him yesterday throwing. It seems like he might
be ready for September. And he's a tremendous young man.
For anyone who had a chance to list do him speak.
Is there a chance a team maybe back getting the
first round something like that would take Hendon Hooker?
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah, you know, I I.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
There's some interesting scenarios there, Brady. Like, I think like
you could see a team kind of at the top
of the second round that maybe didn't get a quarterback,
trading back up into the bottom of the first round.
We've seen that before, of course, happened with you know,
with with with Teddy Bridgewater years ago. You know, so
I could certainly see where, you know, maybe a team
(35:03):
that doesn't feel comfortable taking one in the top ten,
or maybe a team that missed on one of the top.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Ten, like let's say Indianapolis. Let's say Stroud goes second to.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Say Stroud goes second to Houston, and then let's say
they're not wild about Levis Richards.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
And I'm not saying that's the case. Let's just say
that if that scenario plays out.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Well, the Colts did a lot of work on Hendon Hooker.
They had him in at the very beginning of the
process on a thirty visit, and so they could potentially
be a team that's like looking at the top of
the second round and saying, you know what, let's just
be aggressive, go get our guy, get the fifth year
option on Hendon Hooker, and be done with it. I
really feel like, but if he was healthy and twenty
two years old, he'd probably even mix with these other guys,
(35:44):
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it just it
just feels like the fact that he's a little older.
I believe he turns into twenty. He turns twenty six,
I think in January. Right, So, like, if this year's
a washer, a red shirt year because of the knee,
maybe you're not getting a full year out of him
until you know the year he turns twenty seven. But
quarterbacks play longer now acl injuries aren't what they used
(36:06):
to be, And so I think, you know, it could
be interesting at the bottom of the first round with him.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Abe and looking at this year's draft, there's always someone
who impacts their their draft status, you know, under the radar.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I thought you meant like the gas mask bog thing.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
This.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
I wanted to stay positive and not take it negative.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But please have that comeback for one more year, please.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Well, since you brought it up and it wasn't who
who who has impacted their draft status positively or negatively?
Has there been any because it seems like it's been
pretty quiet.
Speaker 10 (36:54):
Yeah, So, like I'll give you a couple of names,
you know, and like I think last year, if you
look like last year, I think it I who was
the cleanest was Trent McDuffie, right, Like I remember people
just being allowed by like how he came off in
meetings and the type of kid he was right like,
and so it was like, you are not going to
miss him, this kid, and sure enough he winds up
(37:14):
being a starter for the Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Right.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
So I think that kid this year's.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Devin Weatherspoon from Illinois. It feels to me and Brady
might be familiar with him.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
I don't know if he came across him like during
the season in the Big.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Ten, but just watch.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, so like he he has.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Apparently been a home run in all of his meetings
and just the type of kid where like he's small
and that's question.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
And so you look at.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Yes we need you had such a great street gab,
damn it it came to an just now you're like
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
You have cell phone issues at your house apparently.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
Man, oh no, no, on my sports again. I'm not
in the car, I'm in my ports.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Can you hear?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It's better now? Yeah, it's better now?
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Okay, all right, damn it, damn it. Those are three person.
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Historical So so no, I say, Devin Witherspoon's like a
kid who checks every single box except for size right like,
and he's done great in his interviews, and I think
he's really really helped himself through the process. I think
the corner from Mississippi State who is freaking tiny, he's
like one hundred and sixty pounds, but he's another one
who's really helped himself, you know. I think Will Levis
(38:35):
has been I'd say the reviews have been mixed in
his interviews, And I don't know how much Jalen Carter
has helped himself.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Like I I think there are teams.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
That are still enthralled with the talent, and what you
hear coming out of the interviews is they're okay with him,
like they think they can handle him, but you don't
hear like, oh wow, he really turned it around on them.
So like I think, you know, the Seahawks, the Lions,
the Bears, the Eagles, they've all grappled with this, you know,
(39:08):
Like I think the Eagles could potentially go up for him,
but I think they're all sort of kind of trying
to wrap their heads around can we get this kid
in the right path? And I think, like you see
the teams that all those teams like right except for Chicago,
the three others really have like some establishment in their programs.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Right, Like in Seattle, you see like some.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Veteran players in that lock on the Eagles feel like
they could absorb them, having like Jordan Davis and Nikobe
Demon and a bunch of veterans in the locker room Detroit.
Of course, Dan Campbell, it looks like he's really kind
of turned that locker room around, you know. I'd say
with Jalen Carter, it's not that he has really changed
many people's opinions on him in the interviews. It's more okay, like, well,
(39:48):
we feel all right with this based on the talent
that he brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, Albert, before we let you go, we got
about twenty seconds. Yeah, do you anticipate him and just
you know, off the top of my head just kind
of spitball in here. Do you anticipate there being more
or less than three and a half Ohio State football
players selected in the first round tonight?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I would go under. I think it's gonna be the three. Yeah,
I would go the three. I would just say, I mean,
I think CJ.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
And Jackson and Paris Johnson, I think they all go
in the first half of the first round. If I
had to guess right now, If I guess right now,
and you guys can hold me to this, I'd say, I'll.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Say CJ to the Colts.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
I'll say Paris Johnson of the Raiders. I'll say Jackson
spitted and jig Bit of the Jets.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
What's the way?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
There's no way he falls to fifteen?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I'm I think I think there is the way, Brady.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
I mean, he could go to the Packers at thirteen.
I actually think the packers have their eyes on your note.
The packers have their eyes on your Notre Dame tight end.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Of course they do. Valentine this year.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I mean, you need that security blanket as a quarterback,
especially for Jordan Love.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Notre Dame, Notre Dame sort of tight end you isn't
it off?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Guy?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
I think we just got a lot of tight ends.
Though we got we got one.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
We've had every starting tight ends since two thousand and four.
Another has been drafted, every single one. I think we've
had it too. No, not that far back, not that
far back, but but pretty far like don't don't, don't don't.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Your last tight ends have been good.
Speaker 7 (41:23):
Yeah, last three you're sicky Jesse James Friar. Move now
we got Britain strange in this one.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
I mean a tight end though or.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
No, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I just want to.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
All of the little shot to the ribs from his
porch as.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
We have shot right.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Davis over here, Albert, we we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier. Always a good time here
on a Thursday. We'll do it again next week.
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